The result was speedy keep due to withdrawn nomination - see the history. --Coredesat 02:43, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Non-notable performer. Not on imdb SERSeanCrane 02:31, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Keep. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-26 08:55Z
Unverified location, just a small village mentioned in the article in the 'External Link' part Saigon punkid 06:16, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Delete. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-26 08:56Z
Paracelsus Island does not exist, see Paracel Islands Saigon punkid 06:17, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Delete, per WP:SNOW. Page userfied. BuickCenturyDriver (Honk, odometer) 08:20, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Artist/Music teacher with no third party sources to verify supposed notability. SERSeanCrane 22:45, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Keep. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-26 08:58Z
Non-notable band with non-notable members. Article does not mention any reason why this band is notable, except the fact it exists. — Kieff | Talk 00:07, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Keep. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-26 08:59Z
Reality tv cruft - not notable! MacRusgail 00:09, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Keep. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-26 08:59Z
Reality tv cruft - not notable! MacRusgail 00:09, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Keep. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-26 09:00Z
Reality tv cruft - not notable! MacRusgail 00:09, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Keep. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-26 09:01Z
Reality tv cruft - not notable! MacRusgail 00:12, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Keep. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-26 09:01Z
Reality tv cruft - not notable! MacRusgail 00:25, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Keep. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-26 09:01Z
Reality tv cruft - not notable! MacRusgail 00:24, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Keep. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-26 09:01Z
Reality tv cruft - not notable! Plus does anyone have such a name, outside novels?! MacRusgail 00:24, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Sjakkalle (Check!) 08:34, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Keep. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-26 09:01Z
Reality tv cruft - not notable! Plus does anyone have such a name, outside novels?! MacRusgail 00:24, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- *Merge and Redirect to the appropriate Television show article. Same with the rest of the noms. FrozenPurpleCube 01:03, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Keep. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-26 09:02Z
Reality tv cruft - not notable! MacRusgail 00:23, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was No consensus. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-26 09:03Z
Reality tv cruft. Not notable, and loser. The fact s/he has been turned down so often should be taken into account MacRusgail 00:36, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was No consensus. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-26 09:04Z
Reality tv cruft. She lost, not notable. MacRusgail 00:40, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Delete. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-26 09:05Z
Non-notable minor residential side street of no encyclopedic value. Saikokira 00:45, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Redirect to Leyton. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-26 09:06Z
Non-notable housing estate. There are some brief references to it on housing-related websites, but nothing specifically about Oliver Close Saikokira 00:55, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Merge with main article Leyton. MarlaB 10:35, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Delete. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-26 09:06Z
Non-notable housing estate in east London Saikokira 01:06, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. Proto ► 13:44, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Fails WP:WEB. Non-notable e-zine/newsletter for magicians. Saikokira 01:17, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Delete all ViridaeTalk 03:28, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Promotional for books by Nick Shane; article about the author has been deleted several months ago as self-promotion. Delete. - Mike Rosoft 01:26, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Delete ViridaeTalk 03:30, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Prod was removed without any comment by anon. Non notable, unsourced, content looks like a resume, googled first link was MySpace. John Lake 01:35, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was redirect to insulin. I read the AFD discussion before looking at the article, and decided that it would depend if what was there was a stub or not. As it's a four line stub, I'll redirect it (without removing the history) - any information not already in insulin can be merged in by anyone. Proto ► 13:48, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
This article contains only a brief definition of the term in question, is unsourced, and could be considered only useful as an advertisement for a particular brand name of insulin, which may or may not still be in use. However, User:DragonflySixtyseven says the drug was apparently widely used in its day, and people apparently search for it on Google, so I would be willing to consider that it just needs to be rewritten. Carolfrog 01:47, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was speedy delete CSD A7. Awyong J. M. Salleh 03:54, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
contested speedy for NN, unreferenced music group delete Cornell Rockey 01:47, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was speedy delete. --Coredesat 02:41, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Nonsense/vanity page/no refs killing sparrows 01:57, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Keep. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-26 09:07Z
This is an article about a UK school's astronomy project. No assertion is made as to why this project is notable (despite the article having existed for over a year). The article is not supported by any references.
It should be noted however that the article was previously nominated for deletion here and the result was keep. Nonetheless I feel it fails WP:N and WP:V. WjBscribe 02:19, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Keep. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-26 09:08Z
This just another unnotable public high school --ASDFGHJKL=Greatest Person Ever+Coolest Person Ever 02:31, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was this is silly. The process has been irreparably tainted. However I do think this guy was significant in his field. I recommend giving the article a bit of time to mature and revisiting this issue later if we must. Friday (talk) 19:29, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Non-notable bio. Wikipedia is not a memorial. While Mr. Shannon may have been known within a small community for his newsletter/website, there are no actual independent, reliable sources about him as a subject, as required by WP:BIO-- just articles about Compaq/HP that he had written. --LeflymanTalk 02:32, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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[17]. Furthermore, Leflyman states false information because Terry Shannon was profiled in NetworkWorld Magazine— Preceding unsigned comment added by Discpad (talk • contribs) 09:58, 22 February 2007
The result was Delete. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-26 09:08Z
Non-notable film, could not find on imdb SERSeanCrane 02:40, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Delete. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-26 09:09Z
Lack of notability, references or updates Ozgod 03:08, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Keep. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-26 09:10Z
Lack of notability, references and updates. Ozgod 03:29, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was keep. I added a few simple references myself after a few seconds on Google, and I'm sure more can be had. Kafziel Talk 14:27, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Lack of notability, references and updates. Ozgod 03:33, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Delete ViridaeTalk 03:34, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
An article on an IP address that happens to be the current home of a DNS server operated by a notable company. Notability is not associative and I'm doubly sure that's the case here - there is nothing special about this server itself; all this article says is that this DNS server acts like any other out there. Awyong J. M. Salleh 03:39, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
C:\>ping 4.2.2.2 Pinging 4.2.2.2 with 32 bytes of data: Request timed out. Request timed out. Request timed out. Request timed out. Ping statistics for 4.2.2.2: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),
The result was delete. Fails WP:N. Kafziel Talk 14:33, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Non-notable wiki that fails WP:WEB - has no coverage from independent reliable sources. Google gets 6 unique hits for "Sensei's Library" (in quotes). [24] Awyong J. M. Salleh 03:45, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Keep. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-26 09:14Z
Lack of notability, references and updates Ozgod 03:57, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was keep. Notability established by external links, although the article could use some expansion and proper citation. Kafziel Talk 14:36, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Lack of notability Ozgod 04:12, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Delete. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-26 09:15Z
Does not seems to be a notable association Alex Bakharev 04:18, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was speedy keep last AfD was three days ago and the consensus was to keep. Awyong J. M. Salleh 04:45, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
This is the 2nd AfD. THe first was below for conflict of interest. During this nomination it was apparent that sources do not claim notibility or verifability. The article has a number of extra readings which are all mainly internal references. The 3 external sources to no assert notibility in any way.
The first source claims to be for the sentance "Many of the Great Walk Networking participants had been involved with other organisations that were formed prior to 1988 to address significant threats to Western Australian forests: the Campaign to Save Native Forests (CSNF) and South West Forest Defence Foundation (SWFDF)" but the source makes no mention of Great Walk Network participants being involved. The 2nd source is a passing mention in a list of hundreds of other non profit organisations who support land conservation. The 3rd reference is merely an ABN listing, for which there are millions in australia.
The article therefore does not have verifability (in reguard to claims on the number of walkers and significance of the club) and has shown nothing to indicate it is notable for WP:ORG standards, thus DeleteDacium 04:17, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was speedy delete as copyvio. Awyong J. M. Salleh 04:36, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Bio/resume for a wing commander (I assume of the USAF). Has been speedily deleted once under this title. Is he notable? -- RHaworth 04:27, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was keep, no consensus. 1ne 07:27, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I am actually neutral on this. It just had a template suggesting deletion, with no discussion (the equivalent of a time bomb). I think it deserves a fair trial before judgement is made, which is why I removed the old Proposed Deletion one and put in an AfD one. So, order in the court! Tom Danson 04:43, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was redirect to lymphoma as plausible search term; merge left to editors' discretion - I suspect, from the single edit that inserted the whole of the article in one go, that it may be a copyvio, but Google does not confirm it. It may have been taken from a printed source. Awyong J. M. Salleh 14:58, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
This article should be merged into lymphoma, then deleted, or just deleted because it is already redundant. Sr13 (T|C) Editor review 04:37, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Keep. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-27 06:20Z
Lack of notability. Ozgod 04:53, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Keep. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-26 09:17Z
Lack of notability Ozgod 04:55, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was keep. This could have been speedied, since no valid reason was given for deletion and no other editors agreed with the nomination. Kafziel Talk 14:41, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Lack of notability. Ozgod 04:58, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was keep. Unsourced statements entail removal of the statements, not deletion of the entire article. Notability is established. Kafziel Talk 14:46, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
per WP:COI, author is artist's daughter. Also, no references and only 20,000 hits on google. Yonatan (contribs/talk) 05:02, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Delete. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-26 09:17Z
non-notable corp, article by its founder with conflict of interest Dicklyon 05:30, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Merge to Catholic High School PJ, Malaysia. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-26 09:19Z
non-notable and disparaging Feeeshboy 05:40, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was speedy redirect. - Mgm|(talk) 13:22, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete No official announcement has been made for this film, and Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. Rockstar915 05:36, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Merge to Abu Ghraib prison. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-26 09:19Z
Although person is related to a notable event, their life itself is not notable except for their involvement as a participant Abu Ghraib prison event. While the Abu Ghraib prison event is a very notable event, Adel Nakhla was simply questioned about their involvement in the event and their statement they released. They would be better as having been qouted in the main article of Abu Ghraib prison rather than having their own article. Ozgod 05:49, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Delete - NYC JD (make a motion) 21:08, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Article reads more as a resume than an article of notability. No list of major works, any press or awards. Ozgod 06:05, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. Sandstein 05:47, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
This article has been tagged for over a year as failing to distinguish between an article about religious belief or an article about plays or movies about the person, and tagged for failing to provide context to interpret the contents. It is written in a POV form and lacks references, and smacks of being copied and pasted. It has had no improvement in a year. Inkpaduta 21:41, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Keep. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-27 06:19Z
non notable symbolic "memorial" to Congress asking it to declare the 14th amendment invalid; I see no sign that it received great or lasting notice, except from a small fringe element of conspiracy theorist types (other than several such websites, it gets very few Google hits.) The dispute over the legitimacy of the amendment is covered in the 14th amendment article in some detail. And, of course, the article has been the site of long-running edit wars. Brianyoumans 06:12, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Keep and cleanup. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-26 09:20Z
Article does not meet the notability requirements for a WP:BIO. It reads more as a fan biography containing irrelevant information. Ozgod 06:19, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was keep. — CharlotteWebb 00:58, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Nominated due to lack of notability, major works, awards, press, ectera. Page has not been furnished with new information and is an English translation of the French verison which is just as bare and minimal. Ozgod 06:25, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
There's also independent commentary and analysis of Taafe Fanga here, which can also be used to expand the article's coverage of Drabo's works. Uncle G 09:25, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was speedy deleted. Squiddy | (squirt ink?) 13:12, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Fails to meet the notability requirements in WP:BIO Ozgod 06:33, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was keep. Notability is easily established. Kafziel Talk 14:50, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Unreferenced article on a band composed of 3 brothers (Kevin Nick and Joe, whose articles have been or are in the process of deletion. Appearances and rankings which might support a keep are completely unsourced. They were signed and were dropped by Columbia after 1 album (also nominated), and would venture they may not pass WP:MUSIC either. Ohconfucius 06:53, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
17:48, 25 February 2007 (UTC)--Don't look here 17:48, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Dan, the CowMan 23:01, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. Old AfD asserted notability through Google hits, which is not a valid criterion. Setting aside the Google hits (mostly advertisements or passing mentions) I see no significant coverage in reliable independent sources. Fails WP:CORP. Kafziel Talk 15:04, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
NN law firm, pure WP:COI ("Entered info on WSGL 4-5-2006; jlancaster, WSGL employee"). Inexplicably kept at prior AfD. - NYC JD make a motion 06:58, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. Bucketsofg 22:15, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Yet another non-notable radio/TV mast, just like the dozens that have already been deleted. This one isn't even particularly large, and is one of the smallest on List of masts. Descendall 07:00, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Delete - the no consensus of the first AFD was mostly based on giving time for the article to be cleaned up. Time's up. Yomanganitalk 00:40, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
No indication that this meets the guidelines for web content. Current version appears to make not even lip service to our foundational policy of freedom from bias and lack of reliable sources means that it is in all likelyhood impossible to do so.
There are zero Google news hits for this and of the 74 unique Google hits I was unable to locate any non-trivial coverage of this. Blog mentions, listings, and several trivial mentions yes, but nothing like what would be required to write a verifiable article from non-primary sources. brenneman 07:09, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was keep. Bucketsofg 22:18, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Article lacks any notability, biographical information, career notability (awards, press, major works, etc.) and functions more as an advertisement/resume. Ozgod 07:18, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. 1ne 07:31, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
This fellow, Nicholas Lawson, is completely non-notable. He has not done anything. He had a job working for the Royal Family, but hasn't seem to have distinguished himself in any way. I have requested input on notability for a month on the article and no one has responded. Article does not meet Wikipedia:Notability (people) standards. The previous article that was deleted under this name 14 April 2006, See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nicholas Lawson was a different person. --Bejnar 07:50, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Delete. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-26 10:00Z
The result was Delete. I see only one semi-resaonable keep opinion, that of Vsion. - NYC JD (make a motion) 23:53, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Listcruft. Categories (i.e. Category:Shopping malls in Singapore) do pretty much the same thing, with less potential of listing non-notable malls. A similar article, List of shopping malls in Malaysia, was deleted for this reasoning. - Two hundred percent 08:33, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Withdrawn Honestly I didn't intend to stir up such a hornet's nest. —Dgiest c 16:03, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
This is a stub with only one real revision in the edit history: A one line definition. There is a much better version of the article at User:Colinwatt/Sandbox which I wanted to move here to preserve its edit history. I had filed it at Wikipedia:Requested moves as uncontroversial, but one editor is opposing on procedural grounds that I should take to AfD. I cited WP:IAR but here we are. Please delete this stub so I can move in a real article. —Dgiest c 08:34, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was speedy delete. - Daniel.Bryant 10:11, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Page originally nominated for speedy deletion, but does not seem to meet speedy deletion criteria. Page describes a term that doesn't appear to widespread. WP:GOOG returns zero results related to the term. Super Sam ultra quick reply 09:08, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was keep, no consensus. 1ne 07:35, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
appears to be self written per user name of creator killing sparrows 09:33, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was speedy keep; AfD is the the place for deciding on merges. Awyong J. M. Salleh 08:42, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
In the heated climate of global warming, rational editing is impossible. The article is untidy, occupied by highly partisan groups on both sides, impossible to edit sensibly and is bad for the reputation of Wikipedia and so unfortunately should be deleted. I can see why it is separate from global warming but it really belongs with thart article and should be merged but in the present climate that would be impossible. Mike 09:46, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. Trebor 23:18, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Appears to be a non-notable and minor update to firmware by another maker. Philippe Beaudette 22:51, 17 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Delete. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 03:07, 2 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Article describing a non-notable pageant. The event is on a far lesser scale than Miss Teen USA and, I think, even Miss America's Outstanding Teen (although the latter is a new pageant, it's ties to the Miss America pageant make it more notable than most of its predecessors. Having titleholders that either previously held other titles or went on to win titles does not convey notability. -- PageantUpdater • talk | contribs | esperanza 22:45, 17 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Abstain I abstain Cman 23:53, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Keep I wouldn't quite go as far as to say "nom withdrew", but the nominator certainly changed her mind here. Consensus is to keep anyway, particularly when one of the Deletes has "strong cleanup" as another option. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 03:09, 2 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Article describing a non-notable pageant. The event is not televised and is on a far lesser scale than Miss Teen USA and, I think, even Miss America's Outstanding Teen (although the latter is a new pageant, it's ties to the Miss America pageant make it more notable than most of its predecessors. Having titleholders that either previously held other titles or went on to win titles does not convey notability. -- PageantUpdater • talk | contribs | esperanza 22:41, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
Weak Keep, expand & reference After looking on Factiva and seeing the links Oakshade has provided I will admit that the pageant is somewhat notable (although comparing "Miss Teen America"'s paltry 250ish hits on Factiva compared to "Miss Teen USA"'s 3400 kind of proves my point (especially considering it is likely that not all of those hits are actually directly related to the pageant because of the naming issue I highlighted below). However, I guess there is room to expand and improve the article so am changing my vote. One question... why does the article not list all the winners, as it appears the pageant was running from the 80s? -- PageantUpdater • talk | contribs | esperanza 20:27, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Delete. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-27 06:17Z
This player is not listed on gmfc.net (the official Greenock Morton website), none of the fellow 'Ton fans I've spoken to have heard of him, and I spoke to a Morton youth player who hasn't heard of him, either. If he does exist then it's on the very fringes of the club and as such he's not competed in the professional leagues, so he's non-notable in any case. Nach0king 21:30, 12 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete completely without prejudice as to creating a sourced article by this name or on this topic. --BigDT 04:15, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Proposed deletion because the article cannot represent all people with this name in all places, more likely one families geneology... Might be acceptable if heavily rewritten. HoratioVitero 19:26, 10 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was redirect to HostAP. Anyone object? No? Excellent :P Majorly (o rly?) 15:40, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Not especially notable outside of developing open source drivers. Propose redirect to HostAP. Thanks, GChriss <always listening><c> 00:40, 11 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was no consensus (defaults to keep). A potential rename is an editorial decision. --BigDT 04:18, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Article merely consists of internal and external links. Wikipedia is not a collection of links. Croxley 21:42, 17 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per above. Jcuk 22:06, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. Majorly (o rly?) 15:43, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
WP:WINAD. This article is merely a list of names belonging to multiple languages and their translations (i.e. a word list) with no prose or explanatory text that isn't self-referential or encyclopedic purpose. Wikipedia is not a dictionary. This is the kind of thing that Wiktionary is made for, and so it has been transwikied to Wiktionary and may now be deleted. It can be found at wikt:Appendix:Table of translations of given names
Deletion after transwiki is standard procedure. Delete. Dmcdevit·t 20:48, 17 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. The table-form itself is explanatory for the list. Complies with WP:LISTV. If Wikitionary can use it as well, this is good for that project, but irrelevant to Wikipedia. -- User:Docu
The result was Delete. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 23:02, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
No assertion of notability per WP:SOFTWARE. Awyong J. M. Salleh 20:43, 17 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. Majorly (o rly?) 15:45, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Artist and poet who fails WP:BIO. Article created by User:Bhaskarhande, so WP:COI too; and it's been tagged for notability since Jan. I've brought it to AFD in case it adds anything to discussion of Wikipedia:Notability (artists). Mereda 10:23, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Delete. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-26 09:24Z
non-notable local high-school level football scrimage. Agent 86 20:22, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Delete. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-26 09:24Z
I cannot find anything to say this is notable, no references in article. Google search brings just over 100 results, mostly copies from the wikipedia article. Englishrose 20:01, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Redirect to The Elder Scrolls in lieu of deletion. If anyone is still interested in Transwikiing, please go ahead and use the history tool. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-26 09:27Z
Delete and/or Transwiki No known place to merge; I'm part of the ES project, and I hate to see such a page go, but this is gamecruft; belongs in a Wikia, rather than Wikipedia, with which, if all possible, I will gladly help with ♣ Klptyzm Chat wit' me § Contributions ♣ 19:08, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. Majorly (o rly?) 15:46, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
WP:COI: This article was created by a person affiliated with this study (see Bes-Rastrollo M, Pe´rez Valdivieso JR, Sa´nchez-Villegas A, Alonso A, Martı´nez-Gonza´ lez MA. Validacio´n del peso e ı´ndice de masa corporal auto-declarados de los participantes de una cohorte de graduados universitarios. Rev Esp Obes 2005;3:183–89), User:Jrpvaldi = Jose Ramon Perez Valdivieso. There are many important epidemiological studies in the world, and independent Wikipedia editors should be deciding which ones are notable and how to describe them. Macrakis 18:24, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Modestly, my contribution to the SUN study was very little and this article is not an important one.--Jose Ramon Perez Valdivieso 22:39, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
The result was delete. W.marsh 14:51, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I've been contemplating nominating this article for a while now. Non-notable actress (in my opinion anyway), who so far in her career has only appeared in Hollyoaks: In the City. That said, the vast majority of the article is about the series, with only one line (the first one) out of the whole article concentrating on the actress herself. — FireFox 17:51, 16 February 2007
The result was keep. Bucketsofg 20:17, 1 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The subject of the article does not meet the guidelines for notability per WP:MUSIC. They released only one album that was commercially unsuccessful. Nv8200p talk 17:33, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I am the developer of the Unbroken Circle web site and one of the main writers on esoteric folk music. Mellow Candle are an increasingly important band whose acclaim far outsrips their sales. They pioneered a form of folk-rock that resonated with the new paganism that arose from th late 1950s onwards. Their ethereal sound has been adopted by dozens of artists. The members have gone on to solo careers and working with such as Mike Oldfield and Brian Eno. At present one member has a notable solo career and another is part of the leading avant-garde band 'Fovea Hex'. Their influence will continue to grow and removing the band from Wikipedia will limit coverage of folk music considerably.
The result was Delete - doesn't pass primary notability criterion. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-26 09:29Z
Non notable guy who posts screeds on polls. All info sourced to blogs only. Hipocrite - «Talk» 15:28, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was no consensus. Bucketsofg 23:41, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Does not assert the importance or significance of its subject, only sources seem to be the artist's personal art gallery web pages. Seinfreak37 14:09, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. Majorly (o rly?) 15:48, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The article is basically a re-write of the script and could not be improved without significant re-writing. It contains no information as to the voice cast or creative people involved in the ep, nor does it cover the creative processes or ideas that went into it. thewinchester 13:29, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. The claim it meets WP:CORP is not explained, and I can't see it from looking over the article. Proto ► 12:58, 2 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Non-notable news site per WP:WEB, with distinct lack of detailed coverage from other reliable sources. Google gets 50 unique hits for GroundReport 2006 "New York" [48], 8 unique hits for GroundReport "Linux Business" [49], and 10 unique hits for GroundReport "open source" Heise [50].
Note: This article was previously AfDed and speedy deleted as spam. This current version is not deleteable as repost because it has been substantially expanded. The problem with lack of reliable sources, however, remains. Awyong J. M. Salleh 12:24, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Note: Heise is the most respected technology publication in Germany and basic translation of the German Open Source Meets Business link shows it describes GroundReport's second prize award. Asterixie 02:47, 19 February 2007 (UTC) Note: Have also added an additional independent source from cyberjournalist. Asterixie 19:17, 19 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Merge to National Taiwan University. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-26 09:30Z
smells like copyvio Ideogram 12:18, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Delete. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-26 09:31Z
Delete inappropriately capitalized article that is redundant to other articles with soap opera cast lists. Wryspy 10:44, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. - Daniel Bryant 10:27, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
A small chain of auto dealerships confined to the Buffalo, New York, area. The article is not terribly spammy, but there's no sign that the subject meets WP:CORP. Prod was contested with no explanation beyond "They have nice cars!". ×Meegs 09:56, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Delete. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-26 09:31Z
Complete unsourced nonsense The article was speedily deleted once and then recreated (with the db tag and the "hang on" attached!) with a unsourced claim of significance. janejellyroll 11:01, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep keep keep! I have been playing banana roulette for several years and believe that it is a completely valid subject for reference. Just because no books have been written about it does not mean that it is not a part of our proud british heritage!— Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.130.87.58 (talk • contribs)
What does Acutally mean? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.104.235.27 (talk • contribs)
The result was no consensus to delete, therefore keep. Bucketsofg 20:23, 1 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Absolutely no assertion of notability, completely unsourced. The Kinslayer 11:33, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Strong do not delete. This game has its own community and it is being actively developed. It is prominent as the most openly developed free software MMORPG. It is difficult to see what is unsourced in this article - provided that all information is freely available at the project site and that the game itself is free and everyone can install it. The installation disks of some very popular GNU/Linux distributions (e.g. Debian) include Crossfire. --Zinoviev 12:52, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Strong do not delete. This game is the biggest and oldest free software MMORPG alive, and not only is it currently very actively developed, but it also has spawned an entire generation of derivative games, such as Daimonin and cf+.-- Roc VallèsTalk|Hist - 22:09, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. Claims of failing WP:MUSIC - the applicable guideline here - have not been debunked. Proto ► 12:56, 2 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Article appears to be written with the intention of self-promotion only. Google results for (erfan hip hop -wikipedia) returns 679 hits while (erfan rap -wikipedia) returns 861. Most returned links seem to either be links to MySpace, blogs or YouTube. Not signed to any major record labels as far as I can tell and his notability has not been established as required by the criteria provided by the Wikipedia:Notability (music) guidelines. Netsnipe ► 11:32, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Guys, interesting point of view and appreciate your work in keeping wiki clean and to the point. While your point maybe be valid for other such articles, the creation of this article initially by me was to introduce a new artist as well as a new movement in "Iranian" music to the world and specially the Persian-American community living outside of Iran. I would like to open this discussion with you on the merits of deleting this article based on the points raised with in this page.
A - Article appears to be written with the intention of self-promotion only: This is not true, the content of this article originally comes from the underground Persian magazine called Zirzamin which did an article as well as an interview with Erfan in 2006 when his first two singles were released. The article was then later published by www.persianhiphop.com as well as www.021-music.com, the text of the interview can be found at: http://www.zirzamin.se/interviews/inter_2006/erfan.html
At the same time, Erfan has had interview's with major Persian alternative music magazines and E-zines including: 1- Radio Javan: http://www.radiojavan.com 2- Zirzamin Magazine: http://www.zirzamin.se/ 3- Iranian.com: http://www.iranian.com/ 4- Bebin.tv interview: go to http://www.bebin.tv/ and scroll to get to it or direct link on you tube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kF6ta-sdtK0 5- BBC interview coming out soon: http://www.bbc.co.uk/persian/, detailed in the BBC employee Behzad Bolour's blog http://www.behzadbolour.com/ 6- He is currently in the process of signing with major record label (http://www.avang.com/) which should be compeleted in a week from what I've heard, he is currently with underground label Major Records(http://www.majorrecordsinc.com/), his album which is competleted is to be released in a few weeks with Avang Music company (http://www.avang.com/) as the first major release of a Persian Hip Hop CD. Feel free to contact them for more information.
Again I understand your concern as a dedicated member of the Wikipedia community, but your lack of knowledge about the Persian Hiphop movement will obfuscate your judgement on the validity of this article. If you want to discuss this more, I can talk to you and put you in contact with all the above people to legitimize the details of the Erfan page. At the same time, you don't speak Persian so you are missing out on lots of information about this artist as well as lack understanding if his lyrics and poetry, the interviews, ETC.
B - Google results for (erfan hip hop -wikipedia) returns 679 hits while (erfan rap -wikipedia) returns 861. Most returned links seem to either be links to MySpace, blogs or YouTube: Just because you did a "string" google search and came across what you refer to as "seem to either be links to MySpace, blogs or YouTube" is not a good reseason to pass judgement on something. The persian blog community is one of the largest in the world (Iran is the fourth largest country for bloggers (sourced from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_Blogs ). Because of strong censorship in Iran, the bulk of newspapers, writers and free thinkers use the medium of blogs to express their opinion and pass information to the community. Iran has the worse reputation for freedom of speech and has been labeled the biggest enemy of publications (reporters without borders: http://www.rsf.org/country-43.php3?id_mot=92) as well as the Iranian government has actively started blacklisting websites (http://www.rsf.org/article.php3?id_article=21052). So for most people, blogs are the only way to pass information, do not discredit it based on "your" personal opinion. Again just because you found something on google, doesn't mean this article is not valid. If you are not happy with the format, then please include what specifically you think is "opinionated" and we can move on from there to make it better or possibly correct incorrect information.
C - Not signed to any major record labels as far as I can tell and his notability has not been established as required by the criteria provided by the Wikipedia:Notability (music) guidelines: The guidelines states:
1- It has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent from the musician/ensemble itself and reliable: Details are listed above, let me know if you need anything else. He is not 50 cent being pushed by a giant such as "Interscope", or SONY, yet he is signed to a hip hop label currently and is finalizing his contract with the biggest Persian record company in the world, he is releasing his CD in a month. 2- per the notability clause of wikipedia, he matches clause "SIX" which states "Has become the most prominent representative of a notable style or of the local scene of a city; note that the subject must still meet all ordinary Wikipedia standards, including verifiability. " 3- also in the notability clause, section "other", part 3 states "Has established a tradition or school in a particular genre", he has created the genre Persian Hip Hop as stated in major Iranian national radio, go to http://www.radiojavan.com/music/interviews.php, search for Erfan, listed among the major Iranian musicians, interview in Farsi, hope you understand it. also article "4" stating "Has composed a number of melodies, tunes or standards used in a notable genre, or tradition or school within a notable genre." as well as "Is frequently covered in publications devoted to a notable sub-culture. ", sub-culture being the new genre of "Persian hip-hop".
All the above was to cover the concerns of "Netsnipe", as far as "Cornellrockey" is concerned, he makes no specific points. I have nothing to add to "Todd661", he makes no sense and as someone making a claim on this page, I expect him to be more professional, your comment comes across as childish.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Adelhaj (talk • contribs).
The result was keep. - Daniel Bryant 10:27, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Contested deletion. A local politician, no other claim for notability made and no references/source Nuttah68 15:34, 17 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Speedy delete a7, no assertion of notability. NawlinWiki 16:09, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Page is virtually empty, band is not notable.
The result was Delete. Cbrown1023 talk 01:54, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Proto ► 12:52, 2 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
This appears to be an autobiography, which is strongly discouraged under WP:AUTO. It reads like a CV and advertising medium for the lady in question. It appears she may be worthy of an article, but certainly not one written by herself. -- Necrothesp 12:27, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. Trebor 21:43, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Contested proposed deletion (WP:NOT#DIR) Tikiwont 12:29, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
this page is a link from the main article City of Thuringowa as i have seen many othe rpages do so can somebody please tell me why it needs to be deleted as again it is a direct link form the main page Thuringowacityrep 02:37, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
i would also like to add that i read this "Merged groups of small articles based on a core topic are certainly permitted" isn't this what i have done. Thuringowacityrep 04:24, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. Majorly (o rly?) 15:50, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Contested proposed deletion (WP:NOT#DIR) Tikiwont 12:33, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
ok this is my page that we are talking about deleting i move this info from the main Thuringowa page and put a link to it on the Thuringowa city page, so can somebody please tell me why it needs to be deleted, i have seen a lot of other pages do this and they are all ok look forward to your replies Thuringowacityrep 02:34, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
also i would like to add that i read this "Merged groups of small articles based on a core topic are certainly permitted" isn't this what i have done. Thuringowacityrep 04:23, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
this is a good one... first of all i was told by the person that gave the City of Thuringowa its new rating, to put the lists on there own page (as i did) and now here i am being told by John Vandenberg it would be better to include it in the article City of Thuringowa (this is where i took it from), and Orderinchaos78 tells me "we all know they start and end without notice at any time, and hence is a list nearly impossible to maintain" well i listed the major ones that have been here a long time plus as i am a local i would do the updating as needed, so i dont see any big problems here. so do what ever you people want as i have come to find that Wiki is a strange place where you do as one person tells you only to find that another 5 people don't agree ....why bother...and thanks to WikiTownsvillian for seeing the potential and understanding why i moved this list to here. Thuringowacityrep 00:17, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Keep. NawlinWiki 01:35, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Nonnotable band. Gives a couple of sources, but I don't think they meet WP:RS. Contested speedy. NawlinWiki 13:36, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was keep. Proto ► 12:48, 2 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Contested speedy. No opinion. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-16 07:24Z
The result was No consensus. Rlevse 22:20, 1 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Article created by user:Radiomusicshop. That looks like advertising to me. No indication of any notability acquired in the two months of the company's existence. -- RHaworth 13:42, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. Majorly (o rly?) 17:11, 2 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The project does not look notable Alex Bakharev 01:31, 17 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Delete. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-26 09:32Z
Delete Clear WP:NEO. No independent ghits. Orderinchaos78 14:07, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Delete. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-27 06:12Z
Reads like an advert. I don't reckon the company isn't that big or notable in my eyes Botley Crew 14:13, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Delete. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 23:07, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - this is an indiscriminate list and directory seeking to capture not only every appearance of R-P-S in every medium ever regardless of whether that appearance has any actual significance or not, but everything that in the opinion of an editor kinda sorta resembles R-P-S or maybe has a similar structure to R-P-S, of course not having any sources to back up the assertion. Otto4711 14:18, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Merge to Lake Local School District, Stark County, Ohio. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-26 09:33Z
Non-notable school, one of many schools added by same user without any sort of notability asserted. Seinfreak37 14:48, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Merge to Northwood, Ohio. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-26 09:34Z
Non-notable school, one of many schools added by same user without any sort of notability asserted. Seinfreak37 14:50, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Merge to Bloomdale, Ohio. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-26 09:34Z
Non-notable school, one of many schools added by same user without any sort of notability asserted. Seinfreak37 14:52, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Merge to Stryker, Ohio. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-26 09:34Z
Non-notable school, one of many schools added by same user without any sort of notability asserted. Seinfreak37 14:53, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Merge to Pioneer, Ohio. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-26 09:35Z
Non-notable school, one of many schools added by same user without any sort of notability asserted. Seinfreak37 14:56, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Merge to Montpelier, Ohio. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-26 09:35Z
Non-notable school, one of many schools added by same user without any sort of notability asserted. Seinfreak37 15:00, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Merge to Edon, Ohio. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-26 09:35Z
Non-notable school, one of many schools added by same user without any sort of notability asserted. Seinfreak37 15:01, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Merge to Apple Creek, Ohio. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-26 09:36Z
Non-notable school, one of many schools added by same user without any sort of notability asserted. Seinfreak37 15:02, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Merge to Wooster, Ohio. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-26 09:36Z
Non-notable school, one of many schools added by same user without any sort of notability asserted. Seinfreak37 15:03, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Merge to Indonesian Idol. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-26 09:36Z
Subject should be noted as a contestant in the main article Indonesian Idol, at this time does not have the notability for their own article. Ozgod 15:13, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Merge to The Fifth Element. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-26 09:37Z
Delete Non notable movie element. ♣ Klptyzm Chat wit' me § Contributions ♣ 15:18, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Merge to Stolen Summer. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-26 09:38Z
Has only appeared in one film, Stolen Summer. Does not meet the WP:BIO requirements. Ozgod 15:19, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Delete. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-26 09:39Z
Only album of the band Totarus which is currently up for deletion. Unsourced, no evidence of notability. Walton monarchist89 15:21, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Merge to Traffic flow. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-26 09:39Z
The page is orphaned, and doesn't contain any encyclopedic information -- just a very simplified example. I suggest either delete, or redirection to traffic flow. Dvandersluis 15:50, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Keep. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-26 10:02Z
Original author created multiple copies of the same page under different variations of the name. Original was deleted through an AfD:Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Silent_2_Targa. Article was then recreated and speedy deleted. Prod tag deleted by author without comment. ShaleZero 15:57, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
please help, instead of deleting.....
first of all this article is NOW CHANGED and similar to
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PZL_PW-5
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schleicher_ASK_21 and many other....
where the title is made up name with the
name of the maker and by the name of the glider.
multiple copies were created because the first title
Silent 2 Targa was incorrect and nobody helped to change it.
It is about a glider: Silent 2 Targa
made by Alisport
and it deserve a place like any other glider,
if there is something wrong please help with positive input, instead of deleting it, or at least give a chance of discussing about it.
Attention DGG: can you tell me how I can rename this page to the correct name Alisport Silent 2 Targa because Alisport Silent 2T is wrong, sorry I made a mistake.
The result was no consensus. A merge is suggested - this would not be a bad idea. Proto ► 12:43, 2 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Contested prod. Non-notable, not encyclopdaedic, at best can be merged into the All Blacks page Spearhead 16:25, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was No consensus. Rlevse 22:16, 1 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Basically this article is mostly original research. It needs to be deleted and any useful content merged into the appropriate articles. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 16:28, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Keep. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-26 09:40Z
Nom & vote...
Del on this bio of n-n apparent champion of a faded-craze puzzle. Lk'd only by Rdrs; GTest <<234 of about 342 for "Bob Burton" cube>>.
--Jerzy•t 16:37, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was keep. - Daniel Bryant 10:30, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Weak delete because it doesn't appear to meet WP:WEB. Lots of google hits and while I haven't checked them all obviously the several dozen I did check appear to be somewhat trivial mentions on blog-like sites. WP:ILIKEIT but that's not reason enough for a keep. Otto4711 16:46, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was no consensus. There are some good ideas about how to improve the content and renaming the article - I suggest trying these, and if no improvement can be made, resubmit it to AFD. Proto ► 12:39, 2 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was keep. Bucketsofg 14:38, 1 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete article as a useless list that can be split into other lists.
Firstly, the article appears to be named after a page under Category:National Register of Historic Places, an American organisation. However there doesn't seem to be an official register of Maltese historic places according to Google (and certainly no organisation in the country called the National Register of Historic Places). Secondly, there are separate lists for this kind of information (List of forts, for example) as well as a comprehensive list of buildings under Category:Buildings and structures in Malta.
Unless there is a consensus by some users to create lists of historical attractions by country (which I doubt), this article is pointless. ~ ► Wykebjs ◄ (userpage | talk) 17:16, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was SPEEDY KEEP nomination was a WP:POINT, and as much as I have issues with this article, Wikipedia hasn't (yet) matured to the level to dispose of it, so WP:SNOW. For now, we'll just need to make sure WP:BLP is enforced in spirit and letter on all relevant entries. . -Docg 18:02, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Contested PROD, with rationale:
Procedural nomination only. Chris cheese whine 17:24, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
One of the criteria listed at WP:LISTS is "Lists should always include unambiguous statements of membership criteria based on definitions made by reputable sources." Could someone please present an unambiguous statement of membership criteria based on definitions made by reputable sources? Thank you. Hipocrite - «Talk» 21:31, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Redirect to Captain America. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-26 09:42Z
Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. Notes on a film over two years ahead of release seems a tad premature. No director, no sources besides IMDb and what is essentially a PR announcement. Basically appears to be in the "high concept" stage. PigmanTalk to me 17:37, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Merge to Russian School of Mathematics. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-26 09:43Z
The result was delete. - Daniel Bryant 10:31, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Doesn't seem notable. Seems it's either a non-notable person or a hoax at best.Hondasaregood 15:52, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Delete. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-26 09:44Z
Article seems to exist only to support her Teddy Bear therapy and that article has been prod'd and now sent for AFD since it fails to explain what it is and therefore why it is important. Ms. Stoner would be better served if she signed up for a free website service such as Geocities and explained both herself and her therapy there. Postcard Cathy 11:17, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Delete. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-26 09:43Z
Even after being prod'd and rewritten, it still doesn't describe what the Therapy is and how it can help people. Arguably it was more helpful before being rewritten but even then still did not describe the actual therapy itself. Postcard Cathy 11:13, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Nomination withdrawn. No delete vote. PeaceNT 08:52, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for withdrawing your nomination. I will add some more information to the page as soon as I can. user:zylstra555
Ok, I completely understand. What if I can circulate this around to a few people and get more non-cited original information on it within a week?
no notability, cited Ancestry.com? Barely escaped a speedy. --Hojimachongtalk 23:51, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
So why is my article being considered for deletion? user:zylstra555
I understand. I am not exactly the greatest user of Wikipedia, I must admit, when it comes to editing and adding pages. I apologize, if you believe that the page should surely be removed, then go ahead. -- user:Zylstra555
The result was delete and redirect. Bucketsofg 15:28, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Wow, so after more than one year repeating everywhere in the wikipedias that you should have common rules, now you realised we should.Gaudio 09:51, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Delete - NYC JD (make a motion) 12:25, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The page does not establish any notability for the individual aside from his association with the band Bring Me the Horizon, which itself just barely seems to meet notability criteria for WP:MUSIC (based on its AfD discussion). This page seems more of a fansite for the individual and a marketing tool for his clothing business. Normally I would recommend a merge, but I don't see any notable info that can't be found on the band's page - I think the best course would be a delete and redirect to the band's page. RJASE1 Talk 18:09, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Delete. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-26 09:46Z
Subgenre of Pirates of the Caribbean erotic fanfiction which is not sourced with verifiable assertion of notability. I am including the related page Sparrabeth in this nomination. Creator removed prod. FisherQueen (Talk) 18:25, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Daze (Queens)
The result was speedy delete as copyvio from the company's website, [61]. --Fang Aili talk 19:59, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural, abstain. While reviewing PRODs I came across this article. The article is unsourced and there are notability concerns, but because this is Iran and sources are kinda tough, I thought we should have more process before we delete this. - NYC JD make a motion 19:18, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Delete. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-26 09:47Z
Contested prod. Concern was OR. Article is wholly unsourced. Procedural nom, abstain. - NYC JD make a motion 19:26, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. Proto ► 12:12, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Neologism. Google only coughs up 120 usages, none of which reflect the definition here. Esprit15d (talk ¤ contribs) 19:28, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was keep - renaming to "water breathing" is an editorial decision --BigDT 04:06, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Non notable fictional ability, using a neologism as an article name... covered as clearly here as it is at List of comic book superpowers ~ZytheTalk to me! 20:11, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. Proto ► 11:58, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was keep, and a caution to User:Chingachinga to review and adhere to our policies on personal attacks and civility. Proto ► 11:53, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Incomplete nomination by User:Chingachinga User has been notified to come and lodge a reasoning for deletion. No stance at this time -- saberwyn 20:55, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Somebody please tell me what she did in her entire career as a reporter/anchor that was at all noteworthy, anything at all. Reading a teleprompter five days a week does not count. She is gone and soon forgotten. She won't be back as anchor anywhere in Boston either even if she wants to return - what station would have her? She will be over 40 in a business that worships young and pretty. Her stiff humorless on-air persona was a frequent source of comment among news watchers. She would likely demand more money than any station would be willing to pay. She has no fan base, never did. Her career is done.
If you are going to allow this article to stand, then anybody else who has been an anchor in local news deserves an article as well, and I just can't see that. If any current Boston anchors deserve Wikipedia articles, it would be the likes of Natalie Jacobsen or Jack Williams, who at least have both had very long TV careers in Boston and will no doubt be remembered for some time. But again, does local popularity equate to Wikipedia notability? A decade or less from now, people will be saying "Caterina who?" I have asked some people, and they cannot even name her as the person who preceded the current female anchor. Is that notability?
Given that she seems to be just about the only local Boston anchor or reporter to have an article here, the question naturally arises, who posted this article in the first place? Bandini herself? Possible. Some random TV news groupie that has an infatuation with her? Possible too, but other anchors are far more popular here, so why don't they have articles on Wikipedia. Draw your own conclusions. (Chingachinga 21:51, 22 February 2007 (UTC))[reply]
Bandini was a local anchor. Her career as a anchor was quite modest in length, and she has admitted that she is no longer interested in returning to that particular job, so that career will not be extended. To my knowledge she had no genuine additional accomplishments at all, e.g. Pulitzer Prize, best-selling book, etc. Even her supporters have admitted that her public persona needed improvement, as she had something of an 'ice queen' image. Newspaper articles from the 'Lifestyle' sections about her decision to choose family over career are not that substantive and barely add to any claims of notability. I'll wager the frequency of those articles will drop quickly as she fades from public memory.
A high-profile job may imply notability only to the extent that it raises the issue. An undistinguished short career in a local market does not establish notability.
Say what you want, she fails the notability test.
What I find silly is that EliminatorJR, who claims to be from the UK and claims to know nothing about Bandini, should take it upon him(her)self to promote Bandini's notability by posting insignificant media articles when he(she) is utterly unfamiliar with Boston TV news, the very context of Bandini's alleged notability. I, on the other hand, have been watching local news for decades, back to the days of Don Kent and Jack Chase among others. It is my opinion that Bandini was a minor figure, that such press as she received was perfunctory, and that she will quickly become less notable over time as her name recognition diminishes.
I also fail to see how WP:BIO establishes Bandini's notability.
With reference to "Primary criterion" - "Person has been a subject of multiple non-trivial published works". Not really. Whenever a new anchor is promoted it is standard fare for local print media reporters to write a brief piece about him or her. It's pretty trivial, usually appearing in the TV or Lifestyle pages. Stories relating to her decision to quit her position to care for her twins are human interest stories, and may be juxtaposed with an opposing position by a feminist critical of women leaving the workplace to raise children. Such articles are relatively trivial, and hardly bolster notability, as any other successful woman, famous or not, would serve the illustrative purpose just as well.
Under "Special cases, notable actor and television personality" - "Multiple features in popular culture publications" - no.
"Large fan base, fan listing, or 'cult' following" - no. To the contrary, Bandini was reportedly relatively unpopular because of her stiff demeanor. The success of WHDH was widely attributed to the glitzy, fast paced look of the news, not to the anchors' celebrity.
"Independent Biography" - no. See the above comments under "Primary criterion".
"Name recognition" - doubtful. Bandini was only known in the Boston area, and was the station's female anchor for only 5 years. Her name recognition will no doubt decline rapidly now that she is off the air, and Frances Rivera has proved a popular, successful replacement for her.
"Commercial endorsements" - no.
Under "Proposed alternative criteria" - "Expandability - will the article ever be more than a stub?" - Almost certainly not, and a brief stub it is at that, despite recent external references. She is out of the news business and has expressed a desire not to return. Her agent may make hyped up claims that a local station would pick her up, but I find that hard to believe.
100 year tests - fails both.
Search engine test - questionable. Google hits are mostly station posts of news stories she covered, and reports of personal appearances anchors are expected to make during their tenure. None of these items bolster notability, and many hits will no doubt be taken down over time as the stories lose their releveance.
So again, I fail to see anything that establishes notability to keep this article. Chingachinga 12:49, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
WP:BIO is not a mathematical theorem to be proved QED, as some matter of universally accepted fact. WP:BIO is only a matter of opinion. As the saying goes, that which is gratuitously asserted may be gratuitously denied. WP:BIO is not proven.
I have a difficult time finding notability in any local anchor lacking other legitimate accomplishments, since for starters any notability hardly extends beyond the local viewing area, which might be rather small in many cases. Other than your own, how many local anchors can you name, excluding those who might have experienced some measure of fame for activities unrelated to their anchor position? None? I myself cannot name any anchors in Providence RI, or Manchester NH, or in any of the other surrounding media markets, never mind the rest of the country. That is not to say that local anchors do not merit an article just because they are local and not nationally recognized, but rather there must be something sufficiently notable about them that might impress others unfamiliar with their careers. Achieving only a very local celebrity as an anchor is not a significant enough accomplishment in my view.
Let me offer some TV newspeople examples as illustrations. Paula Zahn was an anchor in Boston for a while, also at channel 7 where Bandini later worked, but moved on to a national morning talk show, and eventually got her own national cable news program. No problem with a Wikipedia article here: a long and diverse TV news career including national exposure in several programs, and with an ongoing program on CNN. People throughout the country recognize her, and name recognition certainly counts in notability. If her career had ended when it did at channel 7, Zahn would not qualify on notability in my opinion. Too obscure and brief a career.
Chuck Scarborough was also an anchor at channel 7 for a time, but moved on to a very long-term high visibility anchor position at WNBC in New York City. Even though known primarily as a local anchor, I would say he qualifies on notability first, because NY is the largest media market in the country (or maybe a close second behind LA). Perhaps millions of people would recognize him, and he has been an anchor at WNBC for over three decades. That's a substantive career in the public eye in itself. Additionally he has had national network exposure throughout the country, and he has also had several successful books published. That body of accomplishments warrants a Wikipedia article in my opinion. Even the NY local news anchor position alone might qualify, given the market and his tenure. If he had only been a NY anchor for one year and not done the rest, would he qualify? I would be inclined to think not. If his career had ended in Boston with nothing else, definitely not - not enough substance.
I do have some question about Natalie Jacobson's inclusion in Wikipedia, though I would not contest it. She has been at WCVB in Boston for decades and is likely the most recognized TV newsperson in Boston today, and arguably one on the most famous in Boston TV news history. With her then husband Chet Curtis as co-anchor, "Chet and Nat" dominated the local prime-time news ratings until they divorced and he moved on to NECN. Jacobson still lead the ratings as solo anchor in her time slot. My problem with her notability is that she is no doubt completely unknown outside her viewing area, and Boston is not NY or LA, and there is no reason that she should be known elsewhere either. In some sense she is a big fish in a relatively small pond. At some point the market size matters. Have any of you ever heard of her, even if you have a keen interest in American TV news? Does a long-term anchor on Jerkwater Cable Access News lacking other accomplishments qualify?
Another interesting case to consider is WHDH's investigative reporter, Hank Phillippi Ryan. She has been at Bandini's station for some time and covered many stories, but one was a career maker. She reported after a long investigation on a pattern of collusion and corrupt practices involving construction firms promoting remodeling projects to homeowners in some of Boston's poorer neighborhoods, with ties to banks offering dubious loans. The story was significant enough that the state itself investigated and initiated new rules regarding registration of contractors and changes in bank lending practices. Ryan's story was notable for its genuine impact, but would she merit a Wikipedia article? That's a tough one to call.
I cite these examples to illustrate that the criteria for notability for TV journalists are rather vague. Some individuals clearly qualify without discussion - who could doubt, say, Walter Cronkite? Some are iffy, and subject to legitimate debate. Some don't make the cut.
Bandini's career lacks notability. Her Wikipedia article boils down to the first sentence: an 11 year position at WHDH (only the last 5 of which were as anchor). That she co-anchored with Randy Price adds no weight. Boston is neither NY nor LA as a media market. The cited articles recently added are trivial ephemera. Apparently she did nothing of substance outside her anchor chair, e.g. wrote a book of note, held elected office, etc. Bandini fails to make the cut, as would any other local anchor with a brief, uninspired career. In the panoply of local TV news, she did not rise much above that of the general assignment reporter. Unfortunately such is probably the case for the majority of local anchors. Chingachinga 00:50, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Speedy delete, WP:NFT, The Game again. NawlinWiki 21:54, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as nom. The article clearly fails WP:NFT, and had the prod tags remove. Flyguy649 20:42, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. The presence of other articles is not an reason to keep the article in discussion. WP:INN may provide useful reading on this topic. Proto ► 11:46, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Local tennis club. Remind me: are they of themselves notable? Does having raised a Wimbledon champion make it notable? -- RHaworth 21:00, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Speedy deleted by Newyorkbrad, copyvio. BryanG(talk) 03:47, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
unencyclopedic essay piece Travelbird 21:23, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was speedy delete. CSD A7 malo (tlk) (cntrbtns) 22:00, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Notability. I have done some internet searching on this person, but cannot find anything. This was created by a new user, and might be a "test". Either way, it seems that the person who created this article created it about him/herself, or knew that person as a friend. In summary, this hardly seems notable. Tim.bounceback 21:34, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Merge to Wapakoneta City School District. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-26 10:03Z
Non-notable school, one of many schools added by same user without any sort of notability asserted. Request for addition of notable content was requested 16 December 2006 with no response. Seinfreak37 21:34, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Delete. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-26 10:03Z
Pure fancruft. Wikipedia is not a advertising website. Listing every single wrestler that has been released by Jakks Pacific is pointless. The page seems to be edited by mainly users that aren't registered. Wikipedia is a encyclopedia not a website that lists a set of toys. Davnel03 21:32, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was speedily deleted as WP:CSD#G12. – riana_dzasta 01:43, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
First several pages of non-wiki g-hits are all myspace pages; no evidence of notability offered. Kathy A. 21:54, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Delete. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-26 10:07Z
It appears if this person appeared once as a movie extra, which does not meet WP:NOT. Cue the Strings 21:56, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was No consensus. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-26 10:08Z
Article has very little content, no assertion of notability, POV problems, and no sources. Prod removed. FisherQueen (Talk) 22:01, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. No prejudice against an article under the same name being created providing it is reliably sourced as per the constructive discussions below. I do note that the two editors who recommended keeping and trimming have similarly accepted that starting from a clean slate may be a better option. Proto ► 11:43, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Hopelessly compromised list. Barely any sources to speak of, let alone any sources which actually determine which records are notable. One Night In Hackney 22:25, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was no consensus (therefore keep). Bucketsofg 23:50, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
NN superhero fight that appears in two issues of a comic book series. We simply can't devote articles to spandex slap fights when all of the information is already covered in the article about the series it appears in, in this case Infinite Crisis. Incidentally, has anyone noticed how many articles about fictional events use the ((Infobox Military Conflict)) template inappropriately?Chris Griswold (☎☓) 22:28, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was keep. Bucketsofg 23:49, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
A tradition in a small English town that doesn't deserve its own article. Could be shorted and merged into the short town article, but obviously not notable enough. I prodded it, but it was removed. Reywas92Talk 22:35, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I removed your template as comments about a tradition being silly could be seen as being offensive. Traditions are important regardless of the size of a town or in this case a village. Talskiddy 23:45, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Keep. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-26 10:09Z
company has not been the subject of multiple non-trivial verifiable published works independent of the company and does not meet notability guidelines. Warfieldian 22:36, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was speedy redirect. --wwwwolf (barks/growls) 09:20, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
It is a funny mem, but I do not think it is appropriate for the main space. Alex Bakharev 22:51, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Delete - NYC JD (make a motion) 23:47, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Unencyclopedic, laundry list. No sources. —Ocatecir Talk 23:19, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Delete. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-26 10:12Z
Not notable neologism Alex Bakharev 23:25, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was speedy delete; removal of the speedy tag by the author can be reverted as many times as necessary. In this case, speedy deletion was entirely appropriate as no notability was asserted. Kafziel Talk 00:00, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Non-notable suburban gang, no sources, no claims of notability. I put a db tag on it but the creator kept deleting it. Not wanting to get into an edit war, I have listed it here. Corvus cornix 23:28, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sorry. I didn't intend to delete your db tag. This is the first time I am creating a Wikipedia page. I believe it is notable that a large number of individuals have joined this group. There are Wikipedia pages for other youth organizations. You stated that there are no sources or claims to notablity, I created the article by myself 10 minutes ago. You can't expect me to mention notablility and sources in 10 minutes. GregaR89GregaR89 23:36, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Don't delete, it is a very notable article. 24.239.185.118 23:48, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
DO NOT DELETE... the remaning of this page is of utmost importance. 216.6.161.87 23:54, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Do not delete this article. This gang is actual, and like the article says, is a non-violent group of youth residing near the infamous road called 17m. There is no reason to delete this article, and there are members in this group. Reignfire22 23:58, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Delete. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-26 10:12Z
Contested speedy deletion. Article's author notes on the talk page the person is notable because he has some minor state fame. I say he has no fame and the sources aren't notable, just some school stuff. When you add your vote please mention how little we at Wikipedia think of this person's so-called fame. Nardman1 23:42, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was speedily deleted under WP:CSD#A7. – riana_dzasta 06:56, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
There doesn't seem to be any assertion of notability, and only one source has been cited. Doesn't appear to be subject of multiple non-trival published works from independent sources (although I'm not certain whether Take A Break magazine is a reliable source) or not, not certain she meets WP:BIO either. --sunstar nettalk 00:01, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. ¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 21:38, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
article is cleverly disguised ad for fertilityformen.com. An anon recently changed one of the links to a competing website selling fertility products. On top of that, it appears to be original research (shame really, it's well-written) Nardman1 23:56, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. Proto ► 11:38, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Seems to run against WP:NOT - indiscriminate collection of information. - Tapir Terrific 00:08, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Re indiscrimate collection of data:
In most works of literature, puns are of little importance. But in Hamlet, puns are very important for understanding the play and for understanding the literary form of puns and for understanding the evolution of the English language.
Although the main article on Puns links to the main article on Hamlet for examples of puns on names, the Hamlet article has no mention at all of puns. The new Puns in Hamlet includes (so far) three puns on names: "Claudius/cloud", "Polonius/Poland", and "villain dwelling/Hamlet." (Not yet included: my sinews grow instant old, the book and volume of my brain, a book of old men with weak hams.)
In modern literature, puns are usually synonymous with triviality. However, as the Puns article notes: "In the past, the serious pun was an important and standard rhetorical or poetic device." It's possible that the puns on Polonius' name elucidate the meaning and structure of the play more than the character himself.
The understanding and misunderstanding of the puns in Hamlet may have had a significant impact on the English language. More than once I've looked up a Hamlet pun word in a dictionary and found a reference to Hamlet in the definition of the word.
From the Folger Shakespeare Library, "Wordplay in Hamlet," Adapted from Barbara A. Mowat and Paul Werstine (editors), the New Folger Library Shakespeare edition of Hamlet. © 1992 Folger Shakespeare Library, (http://www.folger.edu/template.cfm?cid=953):
"In many of Shakespeare’s plays, one may not be aware that a character is punning, and the dialogue can seem simply silly or unintelligible; one must thus stay alert to the sounds of words and to the possibility of double meanings. In Hamlet, puns carry a heavier burden. Hamlet packs much of his feeling about Claudius into his single-line “aside”: “A little more than kin and less than kind,” where “kind” has the double meaning of “kindred” and “kindhearted.” Many of Polonius’s speeches also cannot be fully understood until one untangles the puns and related plays on words"
Some statistics from http://inventory.overture.com/d/searchinventory/suggestion/
(Note: The above website only gave statistics for January, which is probably one of the slowest months for Shakespeare searches because very few students begin term papers that early in the semester.)
Searches done in January 2007
60652 Shakespeare 31066 Hamlet 7811 pun 4070 wordplay 1419 Claudius
For comparison 39874 wikipedia encyclopedia 27618 Mark Twain 19662 encyclopedia britannica 16960 John Steinbeck 8649 William Faulkner 1789 Hemmingway 1309 Falstaff 385 Capulet 188 Thackeray 154 indiscriminate
Re no original research:
A good pun is difficult to spot, but, once found, it is obvious. The puns I've included so far are some that I discovered independently (though I wasn't the first - I was preceeded at least by Shakespeare, and probably by hundreds of unpublished high-school English students, among others). However, once pointed out, a true pun needs no authority to verify it. If it's not obvious once pointed out then Shakespeare probably did not intend it as a pun. If I point out lines in Hamlet that describe something that walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, I should be able to call it a duck without referring to higher authority. However, even if the particular puns I've included so far fail that test, there are other important puns which have been endorsed by authorities (e.g. Diet of Worms). Or perhaps the page would satisfy the "no original research" test if all commentary was deleted. Only the quotes from Hamlet would be listed, with the puns indicated only by emphasizing key words and grouping related quotes. Any doubtful puns would be deleted, unless documented by reference to "by some elder masters, of known honour."
- from the submitter of the Puns in Hamlet article, Ray Eston Smith Jr 18:14, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
time and looking for help in understanding the play. A play summary is inadequate
for this purpose. Knowing the plot of Hamlet tells you nothing about the essence
of Shakespeare's play. Shakespeare is notable for his mastery of language, not for
the originality of his plots. To help the prospective play-goer, we need to give
him a summary of the language. A listing of related lines is a language summary,
one which can be compiled with much less effort, "original research," and POV
than a plot summary.
Without a plot summary, a first-time play-goer could still understand the plot from
the exposition within the play, but, without a language summary, he or she would almost
certainly fail to notice most of the word-play relationships between lines scattered
throughout the play. There is reason to suspect (Ophelia: "will he tell us what this
show meant?"), that Shakespeare curried favor with special patrons by explaining
word-play which was visible only to the initiated.
(This discussion reminds me of one I had with my boss about 20 years ago. I was
working with a collection of about 50 computer programs which totalled about
50,000 lines. All the programs used the same data fields. I suggested to my boss
that we needed a master cross-reference to list all the different lines of code which
referenced each data field. My boss disagreed. I went ahead anyway and, on my
own initiative, wrote a computer program which generated the master cross-reference
listing. I was subsequently fired for doing "unauthorized work.")
If "Related Lines Within Hamlet" is not acceptable for Wikipedia, would it be acceptable
to put an external link in the main Hamlet article pointing to a Wikibook entry
for "Related Lines Within Hamlet"?
Ray Eston Smith Jr 17:09, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]