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The result was Delete Viridae ^Talk 03:30, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Jeff Holmes[edit]

Prod was removed without any comment by anon. Non notable, unsourced, content looks like a resume, googled first link was MySpace. John Lake 01:35, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Probable conflict of interest, the article was only recently taken out of the first person. Unless some source asserting some kind of academic notability this article should be deleted. --Daniel J. Leivick 01:41, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment and what's with the "phallic" skateboard designs? Surely a joke. --MacRusgail 01:58, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If you mean this edit by the major contributor[1], I reverted it for vandalism.--John Lake 03:04, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete; no sources or assertion of significance – Qxz 04:20, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Notability not established, violates WP:BIO. --Nevhood 04:52, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Although the bio doesn't even state what college he works at , he is at at Warren Wilson college, an interesting non-conventional small Presbyterian Church-related North Carolina 4-yr college. It's not a university, and although he is chair of the Biology Department, they don't use academic ranks, I think his academic level would be Assistant or Associate Professor. Not notable, however.DGG 06:56, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. —xanderer 23:54, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete as copyvio unless majorly rewritten. He may be a notable academic — Google scholar finds some well-cited papers — but copying his web page is not the way to write a good article about him. —David Eppstein 02:36, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. The copyvio issues are improved. But I think I was mistaken in thinking the JC Holmes ghits are his — I was confused by their being on parasitology by someone named J. Holmes. The Warren Wilson Holmes lists his initials as J.A. The first hits to J.A. Holmes are six and eight hits down, with 44 and 42 cites. Still respectable but not as good. I guess Jeff Holmes isn't even the most notable parasitologist named J. Holmes? —David Eppstein 04:31, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. I've touched up the article to avoid the copyvio issues David Eppstein correctly pointed out, and note that there is a Holmes JC from the "Department of Biology, The Rice Institute, Houston, Texas, USA" according to PubMed [2]; that could provide further proof this gent is notable, or mean we can discount the gscholar results. I am hesitant to conclude that his current position means he is not notable, as it is possible that he took this position in spite of academic advantage available at another institution. John Vandenberg 03:56, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That was not my meaning.I meant that a 4yr schools faculty are not necessarily required to publish much, and, unlike a research university, his research quality cannot be assumed from the nature of the institution. I've known many 4yr college people who have published quite a lot. But in his case he doesnt seem to have done so. DGG 05:37, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

And I didnt mean to imply that you meant otherwise :-). It was just that when I searched for him as "Holmes JC", he seemed above par for 4yr college people so I had starting assuming there was more to the story; as David Eppstein has now pointed out, he is "Holmes JA", and when using that search criteria, he doesnt appear worth the effort. John Vandenberg 06:20, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, unless someone can provide some nice reliable sources. John Vandenberg 06:20, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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