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The result was Delete. I see only one semi-resaonable keep opinion, that of Vsion. - NYC JD (make a motion) 23:53, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

List of shopping malls in Singapore[edit]

List of shopping malls in Singapore (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log)

Listcruft. Categories (i.e. Category:Shopping malls in Singapore) do pretty much the same thing, with less potential of listing non-notable malls. A similar article, List of shopping malls in Malaysia, was deleted for this reasoning. - Two hundred percent 08:33, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete and use a category, thereby avoiding the problem of excessive red links – Qxz 10:09, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• See also list of shopping malls in India which was nominated yesterday. - Mgm|^(talk) 13:45, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yet List of shopping malls in Malaysia was deleted without issues raised of its merit or the use of lists. The article also remains locked from recreation. That's rather hypocritical. - Two hundred percent 15:37, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Many shopping malls have been deleted as NN, and therefore a more useful grouping is the category of the N ones.DGG 01:18, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per WP:NOT#DIR and precedent, unless made useful like List of largest shopping malls in the United States. See also Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of shopping malls in India. utcursch | talk 14:32, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep malls are notable structures and centers for community activities.--Vsion 05:55, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep If the idea for the list to be expanded to somewhat like that in List of largest shopping malls in the United States may help keep the article, then that certainly can be done.--Huaiwei 16:50, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. — Instantnood 20:22, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • No argument was made to sustain this vote. This debate is not a vote. - Two hundred percent 05:28, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Singapore-related deletions. -- Vsion 06:01, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. An individual shopping mall may be notable, but having a list encourages the inclusion of non-notable ones. Moving to a category would reduce this problem. Matchups 02:44, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • A category dosent neccesarily group them into geographic regions as this list does, however.--Huaiwei 12:34, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • Categories are still equally capable of sorting shopping malls by geographic regions, as demonstared in Category:Buildings and structures in Malaysia by state and more cats fromCategory:Categories by geographical location Category:Buildings and structures in the United States by state. If malls in Singapore are as notable as editors here claim, cats on specific regions should be acceptable. I'll stand corrected if such cats are deleted via CFD. - Two hundred percent 17:27, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. If we have a List of shopping malls in the United States (as well as a List of largest shopping malls in the United States) and a List of shopping centres in the United Kingdom, we can also have a List of shopping malls in Singapore. Singaporean shopping centers are as notable as US or UK shopping centers. --Carioca 04:09, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yes, we have those articles, but that does not constitute precedent, as neither has been put to an AfD. Indeed, it has been suggested on the talk page of the former that it, like this one, should be deleted. Matchups 05:17, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: The list currently includes 213 malls, 78% of which are redlined, and some of the rest (e.g., Mustafa Centre) do not appear notable. Matchups 18:16, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Mustafa Centre happens to be a major shopping centre within a bustling ethnic enclave in Singapore [1], and was the first to introduce 24-hour shopping in the country. The article clearly states these, so please validify your non-notability assumptions.--Huaiwei 12:06, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • From reading the article and looking at the picture, it appears to just be an ordinary collection of stores on a street. Perhaps it is notable; I was just going by what was in the article, which does not say that it was the first to introduce 24-hour shopping in the country (which might be notable), just the first in the neighborhood, which is not. -- Matchups 17:29, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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