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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:14, 21 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Out of the Fog (TV series)

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Completely unsourced article about a television series, which airs only on a cable community channel. While that would be acceptable if the article were actually sourced over WP:GNG, I cannot find hide nor hair of even one non primary source to confer notability -- apart from the show's own self-published web page and Facebook, all I can find is glancing namechecks of its existence in coverage of other things. As always, TV shows are not automatically entitled to articles just because they exist, but must be properly sourceable as passing WP:TVSHOW for something. Bearcat (talk) 23:49, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Consensus is for deletion. North America1000 01:37, 21 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Onads Communications

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An advertorially toned page on an unremarkable marketing agency. Significant RS coverage not found. Sources that come up consist of interviews & other non-independent coverage. K.e.coffman (talk) 23:48, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to Nelson, New Zealand. Consensus is for redirection. North America1000 01:41, 21 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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There's no such thing as the "Nelson Region". Tasman District and Nelson City are two distinct administrative entities. They are unitary authorities and as such are not part of a combined region. Some government agencies regard Nelson City as "The Nelson Region" (e.g., Statistics New Zealand, but they do not include the Tasman District as part of it. To try to group these two separate entities together is incorrect and misleading. The term is sometimes used, with a lower-case "R", to indicate a vague geographical area, but that would hardly form the basis of an article (Tasman District covers that pretty well), but it is not one of the country's official administrative (capital R) Regions. Even the hatnote on the article admits as such with its comment For the current top-level subdivision of Nelson in New Zealand, see Nelson, New Zealand. If the city's the top level adminstrative subdivision, then, by definition, this article is about a non-existent place. Grutness...wha? 14:28, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Judging by the creator's talk page, the article was created as a content fork as part of an edit war. See also Talk:Nelson Province Grutness...wha? 14:35, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Your argument for deletion of this page does not stand for several reasons. Yes, "Nelson Region" is not a region in the same political sense as Canterbury, Otago or Taranaki. However, people outside of the Nelson / Tasman area rarely understand that local residents and many visitors still refer to the whole area as the "Nelson Region". This reference is more like Central, East, and North Otago or New England whereby the name pertains to a geographical rather than political region. Any claims that the "Nelson Region" page should be deleted would require the deletion of the Otago and New England pages on the same grounds. A quick search of Google identified numerous organisations that use the term "Nelson Region". These included: The Encyclopedia of New Zealand[1], The Nelson Mail[2], Nelson Regional Development Agency[3], The Nelson-Marlborough Institute of Technology[4], and Lonely Planet[5]. --125.236.176.24 (talk) 21:05, 6 May 2017 (UTC)— 125.236.176.24 (talkcontribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

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Let's have a look at your points one by one:
1) 'Yes, "Nelson Region" is not a region in the same political sense as Canterbury, Otago or Taranaki.' Exactly.
2) 'However, people outside of the Nelson / Tasman area rarely understand that local residents and many visitors still refer to the whole area as the "Nelson Region".' Actually, if they refer to it by that or a similar name, it is as the Nelson region, lower case r, in the same way they might refer to the "Kaikoura coast", as a rough geographical area with no defined boundaries. Some of these areas do have articles, sure, but in those cases the areas have significant differences to the Regions and Districts they cover. In this case, almost everything that can be said about the Nelson region is said in the articles on the Tasman District and Nelson city.In any case, locals often refer to where they live as a "region", irrespective of whether there is any official designation as such. So we have information on jobs in the Alexandra region, crime in the Timaru region, and so on.
3) 'This reference is more like Central, East, and North Otago or New England whereby the name pertains to a geographical rather than political region. Any claims that the "Nelson Region" page should be deleted would require the deletion of the Otago and New England pages on the same grounds.' See my previous point. None of these areas (areas - none are listed as Regions) can be effectively covered in articles for either Otago or the individual US states without overloading the main articles.
4) 'A quick search of Google identified numerous organisations that use the term "Nelson Region".' All of them, except in their headers, use the term "Nelson region", and use it in a vague, loose sense. In the case of the Nelson Regional Development Agency, the first major section of the document that is linked in the article is about how to combine activities of two distinct, non-overlapping authorities, those of Nelson City and Tasman District. The Nelson Mail uses the term in the same way as mentioned above for Alexandra and Timaru, or in the same way as Invercargill, if you prefer. Lonely Planet also uses the term in a very loose sense, also referring to places such as the "Queenstown region" and "Rotorua region". As for the Nelson-Marlborough Institute of Technology, it's probably worth noting that Nelson-Marlborough does not have an article, even though it is a commonly used term.
Nothing that you have said in any way indicates that this article serves any purpose or is worthwhile - or belongs as a standalone article in Wikipedia. Grutness...wha? 01:05, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

wha? Do want you wish! Your attitude confirms that Wikipedia is dominated by liberal biased administrators. Just remember Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun125.236.176.24 (talk) 09:09, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Huh? Grutness...wha? 10:33, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Rename to Nelson (geographic region). 222.153.82.76 (talk) 02:01, 9 May 2017 (UTC) (first edit to WP)[reply]
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The result was delete. North America1000 01:44, 21 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Babatunde oyebode

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This article doesn't appear to establish musical notability or general notability. It is also largely a polemic and is non-neutral, and cannot really be made non-neutral. Robert McClenon (talk) 23:34, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:14, 21 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Latino Transnational Migration

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Reads like a school assignment with large amounts of original research, clearly falls under WP:NOTESSAY. PROD removed by page creator without comment. RA0808 talkcontribs 22:50, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Kurykh (talk) 22:27, 24 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

IRing

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not notable. One trivial award, and a nomination for a more important one does not in the least contribute to notability. The refs are directory entries of it's own & related sites, and do not indcate any notability The relevant policies here is NOT DIRECTORY and NOT INDISCRIMINATE. Part of a promotional campaign which included an attempt to include articles on its individual products. paid editor, tho it took a while to get them to declare. DGG ( talk ) 22:47, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The drilling and blasting software this company is producing is revolutionary. It used to take a mining engineer approximately three weeks to perform and modify the necessary calculations to determine all the results from a detonation. This program can do these tasks in an hour as well as give a detailed cost breakdown of the detonation. This program can be run using any explosive on any terrain. It is a global leader in drilling and blasting software. However, if I try to talk about its advanced features and its effectiveness to prove that it has some form of notability (such as above), this text is dictated as an advertisement. It's a catch 22, one cannot be fixed without the other being an issue. StevenSherry (talk) 13:36, 15 May 2017 (UTC) Note to closing admin: StevenSherry (talkcontribs) appears to have a close connection with the subject of the article being discussed. [reply]

@StevenSherry: Notability doesn't mean you telling us how great your product is, it is independent sources saying that which confers notability. In some areas like this that may be hard to do. 331dot (talk) 15:32, 15 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Understood, the issue is in the sources. Since the company is fairly new and their software is just being implemented in the industry, the sources seemed to be lacking. That being said, this company is expanding rapidly, so it's notability will improve with time.StevenSherry (talk) 16:16, 15 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@StevenSherry: It may be reasonable to discuss a product along with the manufacturer, in particular if the portfolio is not very diverse. It may be easier to establish notability of iRing together with Aegis, in one article. But please, respect WP:TOOSOON and WP:COI along with other policies. Try to find some proper secondary sources, not just press releases (and their copies in PRwires). Because of copyright, never copy from a PR announcement, and don't consider them to be reliable sources. Many products and features are announced, and never released. PR should go to PR wires, not to Wikipedia. HelpUsStopSpam (talk) 18:53, 15 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, but if I put iRing Inc. and Aegis in one article, would it not automatically qualify as notable since it's a software? Meaning no sources would even really be required? StevenSherry (talk) 19:22, 15 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

No, why would software be exempt from notability? But if a company overall is notable, a freshly announced product may be worth a subsection on the company page. And it may just be much more convenient for the reader to have everything on one page, rather than split across many pages. If necessary, it can always be split later. HelpUsStopSpam (talk) 20:04, 15 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Is that not what it's indicating in A7 of the following link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivghgJFBZYE? It's fairly unclear, but it says the software is not take into consideration for the notability of organizations. So, do you believe that if I combined the iRing and Aegis pages that it would be sufficiently notable? StevenSherry (talk) 21:04, 15 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Your link is wrong, you probably mean this: Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies). I am not convinced either is sufficiently notable, as I have not seen any independent coverage yet. What I am suggesting is that it may be easier for you to write just one article rather than three; and the company and this product seem to be "synonymous enough" to warrant the use of a single article. Above page says:

If a company is notable, information on its products and services should generally be included in the article on the company itself, unless the company article is so large that this would make the article unwieldy.

so for now, Aegis belongs into the iRing article; and if iRing is not notable, Aegis probably is not notable either. Please review that notability guideline, and demonstrate "significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources". I am pretty sure that any such sources that makes Aegis notable will also mention iRing in a way that would make the company notable (for producing a notable software). So this is what you need to do now: find such sources. HelpUsStopSpam (talk) 21:47, 15 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

lol yes it was the wrong link. This was the one I was referring to: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion#A7._No_indication_of_importance_.28people.2C_animals.2C_organizations.2C_web_content.2C_events.29 . In the A7 part of the article it mentions something to do with software. It is unclear, so I'm not exactly sure if it is directly indicating that software is notable regardless of the situation. But okay, your points make sense. How many independent sources would one need to qualify as "notable"? StevenSherry (talk) 20:50, 17 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

There is not a fixed number, but the quality matters. If e.g. a newspaper article is just the press release slightly reworded, then it is not worth much. An independent review in a widely known print magazine is much better. HelpUsStopSpam (talk) 22:08, 18 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Speedy Delete per author's request. CactusWriter (talk) 15:32, 19 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Yobo (band)

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Non-notable, fails WP:NBAND JMHamo (talk) 22:08, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

If someone can find one more write-up about the band then we have something. Binksternet (talk) 23:48, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Sorry, StevanPetrov, but that's how things work here – WP:V is one of core tenets of Wikipedia, and it expressly says that Its content is determined by published information rather than the beliefs or experiences of its editors. Even if you're sure something is true, it must be verifiable before you can add it. On the contrary, we aren't ruled by double standards: the bottom line is, you have (relatively significant) media coverage → you may have a Wikipedia article. No such user (talk) 14:48, 9 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, Stevan, thanks for staying with this conversation. The way genres work at Wikipedia is not by smart guys like yourself and myself getting together to discuss the music and its style and context. Rather, the genres come from reliable sources such as music critics. So if we find that most reliable sources say Korn is nu metal then that's what we put down. Wikipedia is not supposed to be a music analysis site like AllMusic or Sputnikmusic. Instead, Wikipedia simply summarizes the stuff that's already published. The best you can do to connect Korn and the groove metal genre is to find reliable sources that make this connection, and cite those sources in the articles and in discussions on the talk pages of articles. Binksternet (talk) 23:46, 9 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Uncontested.  Sandstein  10:15, 22 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Slowdog

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subject fails WP:MUSICBIO and WP:GNG. Could only find press releases and minor mentions from primary sources which are not enough to establish notability. —Oluwa2Chainz »» (talk to me) 21:18, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to Shane McMahon. North America1000 01:47, 21 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Doesn't meet WP:GNG, as there is no significant coverage in reliable independent sources. Not notable as host, producer, or actor. Notability not inherited from her husband or WWE. Maybe redirect to Shane McMahon#Personal life? Nikki311 21:17, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Kurykh (talk) 01:40, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Joey Galaxy

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Fails WP:BASIC, WP:ANYBIO, and WP:MUSICBIO. Except for this paragraph-long bio, there is little written about this person in reliable secondary sources to support notability. This article was originally created as Young Cash, and was redirected to Nappy Boy Entertainment. Magnolia677 (talk) 21:17, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. North America1000 23:27, 20 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails WP:NFOOTBALL and WP:GNG, as Arp has never made an appearance in a fully professional league, has never made a senior international appearance, and has no solid independent notability. Contested PROD, concern was: "passes WP:GNG, there are 3 sources". The article is WP:TOOSOON, and the sources provided are WP:ROUTINE sports coverage involving transfer speculation for a youth player. S.A. Julio (talk) 21:04, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Kurykh (talk) 01:40, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Steven M. Ray

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Subject is known for announcing one parade. Seems to be a case of BLP1. Chetsford (talk) 19:54, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete.  Sandstein  17:13, 21 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Software-defined processing

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Advertising skit copied mostly from the [[1]] site. scope_creep (talk) 19:52, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Added additional sources. Article only describes what software-defined processing is. --Andreas.hilmer (talk) 00:07, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Redirects may be created at editorial discretion, with a recommendation to request protection at WP:RFPP afterwards Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:16, 21 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Eunice E Ortom

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seems to be a case of inherited notability, fails GNG Chetsford (talk) 19:17, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Winged Blades Godric 06:20, 21 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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This article should be deleted as it is not notable per the WP:GNG as there is no "significant coverage of the subject in reliable sources". The only reference provided in the article is a Wall Street Journal article which requires a paid subscription. A WP:BEFORE search found no reliable sources that mention this subject. -KAP03(Talk • Contributions • Email) 19:02, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Kurykh (talk) 01:40, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails WP:NALBUM Quasar G t - c 18:58, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:16, 21 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

MultiLing – Center for Multilingualism in Society across the Lifespan

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Single academic unit within a single department. The department is not notable, and neither is the center. This is basically a directory listing by a declared paid editor. DGG ( talk ) 18:35, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy close. Moved by Sphilbrick to draft space at Draft:The Reich Device. (non-admin closure) • Gene93k (talk) 03:21, 21 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The Reich Device

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No indication of significant coverage in reliable sources (bestseller lists, reviews from major publications) or other criteria established by WP:NBOOK. Page creator's username matches that of the book's author implying a WP:COI, and the article itself is written in a borderline if not outright WP:PROMO tone.

Initial PROD by User:NatGertler was removed by page creator without comment. RA0808 talkcontribs 18:36, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: I'm not finding significant sources on this material. There are three sources of reviews listed on the article; Goodreads and the Historical Fiction Society are clearly not sufficient sources, as they're just post-whatever-review-our-members-write sites. The remaining source is less certain (and curious, being an unsigned review written in the first person), but in itself would not carry sufficient weight. --Nat Gertler (talk) 20:00, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:16, 21 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Driving Television

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Minimally sourced article, with some advertorial tint, about a television series. While this aired on a national television network, and thus would qualify for an article if it could be properly sourced, there's nothing here that would exempt it from having to clear WP:GNG -- but on a ProQuest search, all I was actually able to find was one article about its premiere in a newspaper owned by the same company that owned its parent network at the time (thus not a fully reliable source, because it represents internal corporate cross-promotion rather than independent coverage from a media outlet without a vested interest), one article which confirmed that it aired as a paid program (i.e. the same class of programming as infomercials) rather than as one that the network purchased per se, and a bunch of glancing namechecks of its existence in articles about other things (mostly "Zack Spencer is the host of Driving Television" at the bottom of articles in which Zack Spencer was the bylined author and not the subject.) For added bonus this was heavily tarted up with unsourceable insider baseball from the producers themselves, and once I stripped that because WP:NOTADVERT and WP:COI there was almost no substance left except "this exists". There's simply not enough meat, or enough legitimate sourcing, to deem this notable per WP:TVSHOW. Bearcat (talk) 18:00, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Kurykh (talk) 22:29, 24 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Chantal Desjardins

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WP:BLP of a broadcaster, who has a valid potential claim of notability for her association with a nationally distributed sports channel but lacks the reliable source coverage needed to clear WP:GNG for it. The only references here are a blog entry in the context of her past work as a local radio host, and a glancing namecheck of her existence in a newspaper blurb about her joining Sportsnet -- a job, for the record, from which she was laid off just one year later. And I can't find the depth or breadth of reliable source coverage about her needed to salvage this, either -- even on a Google search, I get namechecks and blogs, not substantive reliable source coverage about her. As always, simply existing as a broadcaster is no automatic guarantee of inclusion in Wikipedia -- the existence of reliable source coverage about her, sufficient to clear GNG, is what determines whether a Wikipedia article gets to happen or not. Bearcat (talk) 17:36, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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She's not the subject of the Globe and Mail reference, but merely has her existence glancingly namechecked in an article about something other than her — and MarketWired is a press release distribution platform, in which the "coverage" was written by her own employer rather than by an independent source. So no, neither of those sources counts for anything at all toward getting her over a notability criterion. Bearcat (talk) 22:38, 20 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete.  Sandstein  13:59, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Air Cargo Carriers Flight 1260

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Tragic but not notable cargo plane accident. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 17:24, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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There have been at least fourteen accidents involving aircraft of this size this year and every aircraft accident is investigated regardless of how small the aircraft is; and nowhere on Wikipedia does it say those arbitrary criteria establish notability. YSSYguy (talk) 21:48, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I wasnt meaning Heavy (aeronautics) whch doesn't even include some A300 or A321. At least Shorts 330-200 is definitely a medium and not light. Size of the aircraft implies that the number of passengers potentially impacted in a single-flight is higher and thus is notable. This is for example notable that such an aircraft type doesn't have recorders. Wykx (talk) 21:51, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The carriage of flight recorders is mandatory for certain classes of aircraft engaged in certain types of operation, therefore the lack of recorders means that the FAA decided in advance that it is not necessary to conduct a detailed investigation in the event of this aircraft crashing. YSSYguy (talk) 00:05, 9 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Actually I think it is because this particular aircraft was built before 1997 but for the same models built later on I think it is mandatory to have one. Wykx (talk) 09:47, 9 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
There are no Short 330s built post-1997, production ended in 1992. YSSYguy (talk) 00:08, 11 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
"Deaths in an accident", "owned by a company" and "in commercial use" do not automatically confer notability, what counts is that there is significant coverage; this crash has not generated such coverage, there has been more discussion at this AfD than of the event itself. YSSYguy (talk) 21:48, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Most of the US networks/newspapers have reported it and even following steps of the NSTB investigation, with articles during the last four days. Isn't it enough?? Wykx (talk) 21:57, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Not at all, because Wikipedia is not a newspaper. That Wikipedia policy spells it out, "Wikipedia considers the enduring notability of persons and events. While news coverage can be useful source material for encyclopedic topics, most newsworthy events do not qualify for inclusion." - Ahunt (talk) 22:17, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
So does it mean we have to delete all articles that are not at least one year-old to check enduring notability? There is not only news coverage but also specialized aviation sites that are highliting this crash. Wykx (talk) 09:50, 9 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Policy requires that only accidents that have enduring notability are kept on Wikipedia. We don't have articles on every car accident in which two people are killed, nor boating accident, nor bicycle, train, or any other kind of accident, unless there is some indication that something changed as a result of the accident, like procedures, laws, regulations, products recalls, airworthiness directives or something similar. Why would we treat aircraft accidents as if everyone is notable when no other transportation accidents are treated that way? Just because the media loves sensationalism and jumps all over every aircraft accident doesn't mean Wikipedia does, because Wikipedia is not a newspaper. Despite your claim that the aviation media is covering this accident it is telling that in fact the world's lead aviation media sites, including www.avweb.com, www.aopa.org and www.flyingmag.com have not covered this accident. - Ahunt (talk) 11:16, 9 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Avweb publishes only these informations a month later... AOPA is centered on smaller aircrafts. Another site like flightglobal has reported it on [4]. Wykx (talk) 21:52, 9 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
"Avweb publishes only these informations a month later" - no, that is not correct. For instance they published the much more notable ICON A5 crash the same day it happened, as did AOPA and Flying. The reason none of those leading aviation news outlets didn't cover it is precisely the same reason we are debating deleting the article here, because is is a commonplace event with no lasting effects and not notable. The Flight Global article you cited also shows that there is nothing notable about the accident, no indication it will lead to any changes in anything. - Ahunt (talk) 14:27, 10 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - As WP:AIRCRASH explains it, articles related to incidents are best dedicated to those that result in changes in design, prodedures, or regulations. While notability can be largely subjective, change is not something that cannot happen during (or right after) an investigation. However, a deletion will not make this content disappear, as it is linked to two different cargo airline articles; its content can be included there. -SteveCof00 (talk) 07:38, 20 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

WP:AIRCRASH has been cited here several times now. However the lead of that essay clearly states:

"This essay includes generally accepted criteria for when to add mention of aircraft accidents to articles about airports, airlines and aircraft type articles.

By consensus this should not be used to determine whether a stand-alone article should exist or not. If an accident or incident meets the criteria for inclusion in an airport, airline or aircraft article it may also be notable enough for a stand-alone article, if it also meets the criteria provided by the general notability guideline, a notability of events guideline and a guide on the use of news reports.

Because this is an essay and not policy and also because it should not be applied to stand-alone accident articles, it is recommended that it not be cited at Articles for Deletion discussions for either keeping or deleting." (my italics)

I think that because this accident can certainly be included in an airport, airline or aircraft article then the question of whether a stand-alone article should exist in addition to these is about the general notability criteria and I think this article can be kept.K347 (talk) 06:38, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Kurykh (talk) 01:41, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hiruy Amanuel

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Little coverage in independent third party sources. Most coverage seems to be in passing mentions; the company Gebeya may be notable but Hiruy Amanuel does not appear to be. -- Dane talk 16:16, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was merge to Society for Creative Anachronism. (non-admin closure) Winged Blades Godric 06:22, 21 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Sourced entirely to websites of the people who put on the event. I was able to find one independent reliable source covering this; not enough to show notability. Should be deleted or merged into Society for Creative Anachronism. RL0919 (talk) 14:46, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. No reason given to keep the article. Kurykh (talk) 01:42, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Saadia Afzaal

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doesn't meet WP:GNG. Saqib (talk) 13:31, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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why ? --Saqib (talk) 07:18, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Kurykh (talk) 01:43, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Fakhruddin Sajid

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doesn't pass WP:GNG. Saqib (talk) 13:04, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Kurykh (talk) 01:43, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Faqeer Muhammad Soomro

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doesn't pass WP:GNG. Saqib (talk) 12:27, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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NO. that is different peron. Look at the photograph. --Saqib (talk) 07:20, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Kurykh (talk) 01:43, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ajay Hattangdi

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Fails WP:BIO. scope_creep (talk) 10:39, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:17, 21 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Aditya A. Joshi

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Fails WP:BIO and possibly WP:FILMMAKER scope_creep (talk) 10:30, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. No reason given to keep the article. Kurykh (talk) 01:44, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Shia Kapos

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promotional article with insufficient references DGG ( talk ) 10:21, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was merge to Malaysian Americans. It may be duly noted that an AfD is not the appropriate venue to seek a merge. (non-admin closure) Winged Blades Godric 18:04, 21 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Non-notable organisation. This article should be merged into Malaysian Americans. Alexander Iskandar (talk) 10:02, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. North America1000 01:52, 21 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Of the seven references currently provided in this article, the subject is not mentioned anywhere in references 1 or 2; #3 and #4 are both profiles rather than news articles; #5 is a link to a publisher's website; #6 is a primary source; and #7 is a personal blog without an editorial staff or oversight. There is lots of evidence that this person exists, but there does not appear to be enough evidence to substantiate a notability claim. Article was created by an SPA. KDS4444 (talk) 20:18, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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There is a biography of Ben Parris, which can be found at this link--(one of the references): http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?Ben_Parris He is notable, not only for his novel, but he has won national awards. SFrancis1608 (talk) 11:05, 22 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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What do you do when the online source that the article relied upon for years is no longer maintained? There must be many articles for which references aren't maintained--does this mean that they are no longer notable? I can provide you with a greatly reduced version of a bit of the information, about the Unisys Prize for Online Science Education 2002: http://h-net.msu.edu/cgi-bin/logbrowse.pl?trx=vx&list=edtech&month=0204&week=a&msg=pLLX/s639z6aldCAVzBdgg&user=&pw= but the reference wasn't maintained. SFrancis1608 (talk) 19:28, 26 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. No prejudice against speedy renomination per low participation herein. North America1000 01:57, 21 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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no citation India1277 (talk) 03:44, 29 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was merge to History of Bielsko-Biała.  Sandstein  09:21, 22 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Non-notable local election. PROD was declined with the following reasoning: "Elections in German-speaking parts of Poland during the 1930s are of more historical interest than typical local elections, so this has plausible potential utility". No explanation on the Talk page as to why they are of greater historical interest.

The only source on the page is in German, and is a book with no preview. While this is perfectly within policy it is not helpful for the average enwiki editor in terms of determining notability. Can't find any other books mentioning these elections as being abnormally significant. Admittedly though I don't read German so there could be German sources I'm missing. Finally, I am not opposed to merging; if there were a general article about similar elections I would merge and redirect, but I don't even see any other similar local election articles. ♠PMC(talk) 02:44, 29 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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I don't have a problem with the information, I just don't know that each individual election from the period is independently notable. If there had been an article to merge to, I would've done that. ♠PMC(talk) 08:38, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect to Information management. Consensus is that this could be merged somewhere else, but there's no clear agreement where to and seemingly no great enthusiasm for doing it. This redirect is an interim solution.  Sandstein  10:04, 22 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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No context for this at all, which means it contains pretty much no useful information. This is made worse by the completely mangled English ("The probability distribution techniques are utilized to portray that shapes compatible with the information created amid a quantitative risk analysis" - what?). I don't see that any of this article is useful. Black Kite (talk) 01:10, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. SOFTDELETE per relatively low participation herein. North America1000 02:01, 21 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Singer and actress who seems to be notable at first glance, but it isn't clear that she actually meets any of the criteria in WP:MUSICBIO or WP:NACTOR. ~Anachronist (talk) 16:54, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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She does meet the guidelines. Is currently still a working actor in numerous notable TV shows with significant roles. You can see her on the TV show Underground currently airing now as well as upcoming on a very significant role on NBC's The Night Shift. Previous to this she has also appeared in NBC's The Michael J Fox Show, ABC's Black Box, MTV's Mary+Jane as guest starring roles and Switched at Birth as a recurring role. The page needs updating which will be done in the coming weeks. Please take this off the Articles for deletion. A2b3sing (talk) 21:17, 23 April 2017 (UTC) — A2b3sing (talkcontribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
Appearances and one-off roles aren't "significant". Not all recurring roles are significant either. Please specify exactly what criterion in WP:NACTOR this person meets, and why. ~Anachronist (talk) 00:25, 24 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. No further discussion despite three relists (a !vote without explanation does not count as discussion). The assumption of G5 eligibility is not sufficient grounds for deletion and other reasons for deletion were not mentioned either by the nominator or the sole delete-!vote. SoWhy 10:43, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Page previously deleted as unambiguous promotion. Was recreated by a sockpuppet, which escaped notice for a while and has had enough edits by unrelated users to warrant a discussion. The recreated version is substantially similar to the deleted version, though not identical. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 12:29, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Kurykh (talk) 01:44, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Stevie Lynn Jones

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Seems too soon to have an article. Her only borderline-notable role was in Crisis, which unfortunately got cancelled after just 13 episodes. All her other roles were single episode guest appearances, brief cameos, and short films. She has not won or been nominated for any notable awards yet and coverage is minimal at the moment. If she gains notability in the future, someone can always recreate this article The Legendary Ranger (talk) 21:24, 28 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to University of Sheffield. Bishonen | talk 23:00, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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fails WP:ORG. hospitals are not inherently notable. the coverage is rather routine and local for Sheffield. let's see if the usual suspect turns up to this AfD. LibStar (talk) 02:19, 28 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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please provide actual evidence of being "best known ". LibStar (talk) 10:46, 4 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Providing the search results of searching google books is not a valid AfD argument. Those could be all passing mentions. There needs to be multiple sources with signfiicant discussion of the subject, so that we can have an actual WP article and not a directory entry. See WP:NOT. Jytdog (talk) 13:15, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I am well aware of the policy, thank you very much. That's why I wrote "ideally", hoping that someone with more access to such books can find the required coverage. However, I think we can both agree that per WP:ATD-R deletion is not a valid outcome if the article title would make a useful redirect, can we not? Regards SoWhy 13:53, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Comments in favor of delete were in line with Wikipedia policies and guidelines, while those in favor in keep were not. Kurykh (talk) 22:31, 24 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Questionable notability for this YouTube person. Unsupported claims of significance (one was previously supported by a self-published claim before I replaced that with a cn tag; another had a cite that failed to support the claim, also replaced with a cn tag). Article has previously run into CSD A7 twice. I'm not convinced by the article in its current state and feel that notability is not clearly established. Murph9000 (talk) 04:59, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

There is a possible WP:BLP1E in there, in terms of the bomb hoax on a commercial flight, but if that's the only supported notable thing, then I believe the article fails overall BLP notability. Murph9000 (talk) 05:13, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
There are multiple notable events that can be validated by major news broadcasting companies(abc,fox..) Mrs.Nesbitt (talk) 15:52, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The first two attempts to create the page were defintely not legitimate attempts to create a proper wikipedia page and were just to troll. - unsure if that makes a difference but probably should, as this is the first real sourced article.

Also I agree, before the bomb threat, and permanent ban by Twitch, the article probably didn't deserve to be created.

I'm unclear on your statement that there are too many primary sourced articles, which in particular? As most as secondary sources. Jimmybobbyson (talk) 06:11, 6 May 2017 (UTC) (unsure of formating of these talk pages, feel free to fix formating if needed).[reply]

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Ice_Poseidon is worthy of a wikipedia article the same way pewdiepie is. Ice_Poseidon is leading the way in real-time video streaming and has an audience of 20,000 on average everytime there is a broadcast. He has sponsorship from corporations such as logitec. This article was created most likely as a troll attempt but like Ice_Poseidon it has went viral and a decent attempt was made to turn it into a genuine article by his fans. The initial article contained poorly worded sections(including some by myself) which were then later changed to the standard that wikipedia sets. As the article currently stands ( [1] ) it is currently incomplete as it was locked so anyone wishing to make correct changes are unable to do so hence the article looks like garbage. In a few days when the people who created accounts to correct the article are able to then they will provide more credible sources and return the page to wiki standards.2A02:C7F:862E:9300:5D90:BC87:C1B4:33CB (talk) 15:43, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Jimmybobbyson: If you want to keep the article you need to ivote 'Keep' and add this new source to the article. In addition, the article would need to be rewritten. But I'd add that this probably won't be enough because he's still not widely notable. See the guidelines here. SW3 5DL (talk) 14:02, 10 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Kurykh (talk) 01:45, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Rita Conte

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I doubt notability here: everything is based on the appearance in one music video, and there is nothing otherwise to show notability as a performer. DGG ( talk ) 03:51, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Is this ... even English? It does not seem to be about singing.  Sandstein  20:54, 22 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Voice of process

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The subject does not seem to be notable per WP:GNG. The sources in the article do not suggest notability (reference #2 does not even mention the subject and reference #1 does not go into depth about the term). A WP:BEFORE search did not find any reliable sources using this term. -KAP03(Talk • Contributions • Email) 18:00, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Noone but the creator argued for keeping this article and he did not present any reasons why one should assume that the lack of reliable sources should be ignored. While WP:AUTOBIO is in itself no reason for deletion, a lack of notability is. SoWhy 10:28, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Peter Lhotka

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Minimally sourced WP:AUTOBIO résumé of a film producer and production manager. His only discernible claim of notability is that he and his work exist, and the only "sources" are directories on the order of IMDb that offer raw verification of film credits but do not actually assist in demonstrating notability at all. As always, people are not entitled to articles just because they exist; they must be reliably sourceable as having garnered media coverage for one or more noteworthy accomplishments, but nothing here satisfies either part of that equation. Bearcat (talk) 16:39, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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1. Content that meets at least one of the criteria for speedy deletion 2. Copyright violations and other material violating Wikipedia's non-free content criteria 3. Vandalism, including inflammatory redirects, pages that exist only to disparage their subject, patent nonsense, or gibberish 4. Advertising or other spam without any relevant or encyclopedic content (but not an article about an advertising-related subject) 5. Content forks (unless a merger or redirect is appropriate) 6. Articles that cannot possibly be attributed to reliable sources, including neologisms, original theories and conclusions, and articles that are themselves hoaxes (but not articles describing notable hoaxes) 7. Articles for which thorough attempts to find reliable sources to verify them have failed 8. Articles whose subjects fail to meet the relevant notability guideline (WP:N, WP:GNG, WP:BIO, WP:MUSIC, WP:CORP, and so forth) 9. Articles that breach Wikipedia's policy on biographies of living persons 10. Redundant or otherwise useless templates 11. Categories representing over categorization 12. Files that are unused, obsolete, or violate the non-free policy 13. Any other use of the article, template, project, or user namespace that is contrary to the established separate policy for that namespace 14. Any other content not suitable for an encyclopedia

If the only criticism is that the individual is not "notable" how could a person who has produced Films with some of the most notable people in the industry including George Clooney and Steven Soderbergh and many others, and companies such as Sony, Paramount, Legendary Picture, Revolution Studios, ABC, NBC Universal, Turner Broadcasting and Warner Brothers not be considered notable?

IMDB is a recognized accepted source of information and reference by millions of people.

Create and add to knowledge, don't destroy for no viable reason. Lhotka (talk) 18:30, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Notability, for Wikipedia's purposes, is measured by the degree to which the person is or is not the subject of reliable source coverage about them in media. Nobody but nobody gets to claim nothing but nothing that ever hands them a "notable just for existing" freebie while exempting them from having to get coverage in media: the media coverage, or lack thereof, is the notability test in and of itself. Bearcat (talk) 23:51, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Firstly, you get one "vote" in an AFD discussion, not multiple votes — you're allowed to comment as many times as you wish, but you're not allowed to preface any of the followup comments with a second or third restatement of the "keep" vote that you've already given. That part of your comment has accordingly been stricken.
Secondly, you have not added sources that are about you — you have added sources which glancingly namecheck your existence in coverage of other things, which is not the kind of sourcing it takes to show notability. You must be the subject of a source, not just mentioned in a source whose subject is something else, for that source to assist in building your notability.
And finally, you need to familiarize yourself with our conflict of interest rules — especially the part that militates against starting an autobiographical article about yourself. Bearcat (talk) 22:10, 20 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I am not a "master" of Wikipedia as you are Bearcat, I have tried to educate myself and understand the process of this very valuable educational resource. If I have not mastered it in the manner you have, my apologies, but I would appreciate if you would not comment in such an aggressive and negative manner and instead educate and improve this wonderful resource. Your comments seem rather personal and I have no idea why. I will say nothing more.Lhotka 18:43, 21 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Kurykh (talk) 01:46, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Non-notable YouTuber not known outside of YouTube. Sources in the article are exclusively YouTube sources. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 16:09, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. North America1000 22:58, 20 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Information Guide-Future UWS Students

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The article is entirely unreferenced and written as an essay rather than an encyclopedia entry; furthermore, I do not believe the subject meets our notability guidelines. It was tagged for proposed deletion on May 9; this was reverted by the article's creator the following day: [12]. I then tagged it for maintenance and tried to engage the editor in their talk page [13], even suggesting having the article converted to a draft. They have not acknowledged this and kept removing the maintenance tags: [14], [15] and [16]. –FlyingAce✈talk 15:21, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:18, 21 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Not a single source, does not prove notability and is essentially just trivial WP:GAMECRUFT: summoning as a gameplay features is in these games. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 14:06, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Kurykh (talk) 01:46, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sefton Payne

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Sefton Payne exists, and he's a snooker player. That's about all I can verify. I find 340 GSearch hits, and zero News. If we had a WP:NCUE he'd probably not meet the criteria. If you look in the article history you'll see some claims made by an IP (one of which regarding back-to-back 147s), but I cannot verify anything. There's just no information about this fellow. Primefac (talk) 14:06, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:18, 21 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Shupikaya Chipunza

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PROD removed by article creator. Fails WP:GNG (due to lack of significant coverage) and WP:NFOOTBALL (has not played in a Tier 1 international match; the Falkland Islands are not members of FIFA and therefore their matches are Tier 2 at most per FIFA regulations. GiantSnowman 13:30, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Concur with GiantSnowman, this is not an official national team, neither is the Falkland Islands a nation. Read the guidelines. --Bejnar (talk) 23:30, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I am sorry, I did not notice that the subject of the article played for the Falkland Islands, I must have misunderstood it to be the Faroe Islands, which is a FIFA-registered team. I have struck my previous vote. Inter&anthro (talk) 00:51, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Kurykh (talk) 01:46, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Stephen M. Hackett

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Does not meet notability guidelines, and the article does not try to indicate notability. Emphrase - 💬 | 📝 13:30, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete all articles that were not withdrawn. Kurykh (talk) 01:47, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

2008 European Cricket Championship Division One

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Not part of WCL so for me fails WP:GNG and WP:NCRIC. Greenbörg (talk) 12:29, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Soft redirect to wiktionary at editorial discretion Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:19, 21 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Yuccie

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WP:NEO. All sources do is regurgitate the fluff piece of one blogger. No evidence of widespread usage aside, societal significance or importance whatsoever. To cite the policy directly:

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I'm assuming Hyperbolick meant to agree with the previous actual !vote, and got the signatures mixed up. @Hyperbolick:, can you clarify? bd2412 T 13:58, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. Meant Soft redirect to Wiktionary. Hyperbolick (talk) 12:27, 15 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I did not realize when I initially commented that all four of the references in the article are from June 2015. That's a bad sign, notability-wise, striking my keep. -- RoySmith (talk) 23:52, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:19, 21 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Doesn't exists WP:CRYSTAL. Greenbörg (talk) 11:16, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. Divided opinions about notability, and the article has been heavily edited during AfD, making the applicability of earlier opinions questionable. Those who want to delete it can renominate it once it stabilizes.  Sandstein  09:42, 22 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Tim Nolan (Trump campaign official) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD · Stats)
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Subject fails notability as a criminal per WP:PERPETRATOR policy. — JFG talk 11:04, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not convinced. Do you have any sources covering him as a "major local political figure" prior to the recent criminal charges? — JFG talk 14:07, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The article includes ten references, including from Reuters and non-US media, which cover him directly and in detail. --Tataral (talk) 16:22, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
All those sources report on the recent criminal arraignment. Do you have any source covering this individual for his political activities or anything else prior to this affair? In other words, was he notable as a politician before being notable as a criminal? (which he is not by WP standards) — JFG talk 00:26, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, there are some. For example, Former judge files suit over KKK photo (June 10, 2016); Bevin appointment rescinded after Facebook slur (May 19, 2016). bd2412 T 00:34, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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"1.The victim of the crime is a renowned national or international figure, including, but not limited to, politicians or celebrities"
"2.The motivation for the crime or the execution of the crime is unusual—or has otherwise been considered noteworthy—such that it is a well-documented historic event."
None of those apply here. The alleged victim is not a renowned national figure and there is nothing especially notable about either the motivation or execution of the crime. Valenciano (talk) 16:29, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  1. The primary source for much of the article is a Raw Story post that was sourced (according to Raw Story) from this article in The Northern Kentucky Enquirer.
  2. There are repeated references to "state media" in the article. Which state media? I can't find any source that clarifies what is meant by this.
  3. The article says the reason that Nolan was dismissed from the Kentucky boxing board by the governor is due to his alleged Ku Klux Klan garb photograph posted on Facebook. I checked the WP article source for that (Bevin appointment rescinded after Facebook slur), and could find no confirmation that that was the reason. Instead, this was all I could find in the source: "The reason, says Nolan, a retired attorney and district court judge: He posted on his Facebook page that Kentucky's respected and well-liked Chief Justice John D. Minton Jr. is an “asshole.”" The part about the Ku Klux Klan photo is also sourced to Nolan himself, but not corroborated or denied by anyone in the article: "Nolan, a Tea Party activist in Northern Kentucky, said Bevin’s office first raised questions about his appointment because of a photograph that purports to show him in a Ku Klux Klan outfit. Nolan said the photo is bogus and that political foes in Campbell County first circulated it in an unsuccessful bid to keep him from being county chairman of the Trump campaign. Nolan said he persuaded Bevin’s director of boards and commissions, Brett Gaspard, that the picture was a non-issue but the governor’s deputy chief of staff, Adam Meier, told a mutual friend, retired state Sen. Katie Stine, that the Facebook post disqualified him. “She told me he said that there was no way that anybody who called the chief justice an asshole can be an appointee of the governor,” Nolan said. Stine said Nolan's account is not accurate, thought she declined to elaborate; Gaspard and Meier did not respond to emails...." Who knows if Nolan is telling the truth or not, but the article language needs to reflect the fact that it is alleged but not confirmed at this point, or better yet, not mention it at all.
The reason why I said Tim Nolan (Trump campaign official) was the title of the article was because that is what the AfD says at the top of this webpage and AfD request. That was the title of the article as of yesterday, 13 May 2017, so I wouldn't describe the change as having been "for some time", as it is recent, i.e. in the past 24 hours. Given that, I don't know why you would "find it somewhat odd" that I would make the comment I did. Finally, please do not accuse me of "arguing". --FeralOink (talk) 20:36, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
There are 8 sources used in the article, not 17. Two of the eight sources are to the questionable "Raw Story". Another is to "bluegrassmama.com" which hardly counts as WP:RS. The same is probably true for a fourth source, politicalhaze.com. So four of the eight sources are questionable.--FeralOink (talk) 20:36, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I just edited the article to remove the verbiage about the KKK photo being published by "state media" and replaced that with a more accurate description. GOPfacts.org is a political opposition website. It is NOT state media! This is the alleged photograph, which does not belong in the article. (Nolan would have needed to lose about 100 pounds to be the person in that photo, but that is WP:SYNTH on my part, so I will say no more.)--FeralOink (talk) 20:29, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
No, that's a blatantly false claim. There were 17, not 8 sources used in the article that I wrote. As is clear from the article history, one editor has insisted on removing a bunch of sources, including several Associated Press stories, due to alleged "overlinking". I strongly disagree with that removal, and it certainly cannot be used to claim that there is a lack of sources in this discussion.
Regarding the KKK photo, the reason it's relevant is not the photo itself, but its central role in his removal from the state commission to which he had been appointed, and in his later lawsuit as well. The article doesn't claim the KKK guy was him either. --Tataral (talk) 20:33, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Look at the article! I am NOT making blatantly false claims. There are 8, that is, EIGHT sources in the article at the present time. I didn't remove any sources. This article for deletion discussion is based on the reality of the article, not on your conjectures about what you think the article content should be. Please stop making all these accusatory remarks to me. You have described my behavior as odd, argumentative and making blatantly false claims in the course of less than hour. I responded politely to each of your claims, and refuted them with facts. You are being hostile to me. Please stop!--FeralOink (talk) 20:41, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
You are making a false claim based on WP:IDIDNTHEARTHAT. The article includes 17 18 references, not 8. The fact that some of them were briefly only found in the article history is not my fault or responsibility. Anyone discussing the sourcing of the article needs to take all the provided references into account and not falsely pretend that there are only 8 references which form the basis of this discussion, especially after they have been explicitly made aware of the fact that the article included more than twice the amount of references they claimed and that some had been removed by a different editor who objected to the number of references. --Tataral (talk) 20:45, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The Daily Mail and Perez Hilton are not WP:RS. See in particular the WP:DAILYMAIL RfC which rencently concluded:

Consensus has determined that the Daily Mail (including its online version, dailymail.co.uk) is generally unreliable, and its use as a reference is to be generally prohibited, especially when other more reliable sources exist.

JFG talk 21:47, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The Daily Mail is a major, well-established British newspaper with a huge circulation of 1.5 million. I'm not particularly fond of the Daily Mail as a newspaper, but there is nothing in the article by Matthew Wright that seems dubious or objectionable; on the contrary it's detailed and seems rather solid and well researched, and its content is based on coverage in local media. In any event, it's one of the 20 references, with other references covering the same material as the material covered in the Daily Mail article including a Reuters story, two Associated Press stories and several other sources. The Daily Mail is not used to make any sensational claims; for the purposes of this discussion it would mainly serve (with other sources) to highlight the international interest in Nolan's case. --Tataral (talk) 22:01, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Certainly the Daily Mail is a major widely-circulated newspaper. I was just pointing out that the Wikipedia community recently decided to avoid citing it except in rare circumstances. We may or may not personally agree with this stance but we should respect the global consensus. I assume that you were not aware of this decision when adding it to the sources. In any case, a lot of the sources simply repeat the criminal charges, so we can safely trim references to 2 or 3 sources per WP:OVERCITE. Piling up 10 references for one fact tends to give readers the impression that the asserted fact is not well-supported, which may run contrary to the author's intent. — JFG talk 22:45, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
This seems to stray a bit far from the discussion in chief. The fundamental issue here is whether the assertions made in reliable sources support notability. Under the notability standards set forth by the U.S. Courts and Judges WikiProject, I believe that they do. I could care less about other notability guidelines, or quite frankly about the subject's position with respect to the Trump campaign (although I see that as an additional point of notability building on his years as a judge). I get the sense that there are some editors who want this article deleted because of the subject's Trump connection, which doesn't speak at all to the fact that a former long-serving state court judge later charged with a substantial sex-trafficking crime is likely notable, irrespective of what activities he has engaged in other than those. bd2412 T 23:04, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I would agree to trim the references in that section to 2 or 3 when this AfD discussion has ended. We don't really need to retain the Daily Mail reference either, as it isn't used to support anything that's not already supported by other sources in the article.--Tataral (talk) 23:05, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Local crime coverage in a local newspaper is not unusual. Power~enwiki (talk) 20:33, 17 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Reuters? Plus another source says this has "shocked Northern Kentucky" - sounds beyond local. Another in the next state over, "case has caused major shock throughout the Campbell County political status mean, where Nolan was outspoken and active." Hyperbolick (talk) 21:22, 17 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
There is a Reuters article, several Associated Press stories (via U.S. News & World Report), in fact most of the sources are national or state level sources, not local ones. British newspapers have written about the guy, and they rarely write about Kentucky local politicians. In any event, he is a well established political figure in Northern Kentucky, and has been appointed to a state office by the Governor and been handpicked by the guy who likes to boast about his inauguration crowd size to head his campaign in a reasonably large county. --Tataral (talk) 17:35, 19 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
"hand-picked" - I disagree with that assessment and believe it to be false. Presidential candidates (especially ones as gregarious as Trump) don't generally pick people to head their campaign at the per-county level; they rely on state-level coordinators to hand those positions out. Power~enwiki (talk) 02:59, 21 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep per WP:SNOW. Now that both articles have been created, there's consensus that this is a useful disambiguation page. -- Tavix (talk) 19:37, 17 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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DAB page with two items. American Society of Colon and Rectal Surgeons is mentioned on the colorectal surgery page in an external link but is not actually discussed at all. The American Society of Cataract and Refractive Surgery is not mentioned at all on the linked page in its entry, eye surgery. DAB pages are supposed to help people navigate to pages where the title of the DAB page could be intended. In this case neither page discusses the organizations that could be called ASCRS so there is no need for this DAB page. ~ GB fan 10:33, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

My nomination reasons no longer apply. ~ GB fan 21:33, 16 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Although I stand by point number 2 above, I also realize that probably GB fan's concerns would be better allayed if the two society articles existed. Thank you, bd2412, for starting drafts. I will plan to be bold soon and create those two in the main namespace. All the better if you beat me to it. Thank you both. Lise-lyse (talk) 16:44, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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*Delete (unless articles are created) Thanks, BD2412 for offering to create the articles, I haven't looked into it but there's a good chance they are notable. As it stands, this dab is not just useless but misleading. Readers would arrive at the dab, click on the link which looks best, look through article for information, find there is no mention of the organisation in the article, and then realise they've wasted several minutes of their life. Neither entry is valid, as they have no articles or meet MOS:DABMENTION. Boleyn (talk) 08:17, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

And thanks to @Bejnar: for creating American Society of Cataract and Refractive Surgery: one down, one to go. PamD 21:39, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:19, 21 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

FND Hope

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Apparently non-notable advocacy group, here to advocate; but Wikipedia does not tolerate advocacy. NB the article creator was previously named ProjectFND and is here "to raise awareness of Functional Neurological Symptom Disorder (FNsD)". Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 09:23, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy-deletion (G4). (non-admin closure) AllyD (talk) 16:39, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Prem Khan (actor born 1996)

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No significant coverage in reliable sources and no evidence to support his role in any of the film listed in his IMDb including Prem Ratan Dhan Payo. Fails WP:NACTOR and general notability guideline. GSS (talk|c|em) 07:53, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:20, 21 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Gülbahar Sultan (daughter of Murad IV)

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Another self-created article about an imaginary Ottoman figure. Probably it can be put in the same category as the previously deleted articles. I couldn't find any information about her in the sources, but if anyone can then I think we can keep it. Otherwise it should be deleted. Keivan.fTalk 07:25, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy keep as a bad-faith nomination by obvious socks. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 08:56, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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the chitrali word is only use for Chitrali people which is already redirected to kho people this page in hoaxTransformer X (talk) 06:52, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I have restored BigHaz' !vote from the history. --bonadea contributions talk 08:08, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

FTR: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Akbaralighazi. --bonadea contributions talk 08:49, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. This meets WP:GNG as the subject is covered in multiple WP:RS.The article's NPOV and title issues may be discussed on the article's talk page.Winged Blades Godric 07:01, 21 May 2017 (UTC) (non-admin closure)[reply]

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  • With respect to Erigavo, that statement is incorrect, Erigavo suffered atrocities including both killings and mass arrests [26]. This is particularly significant because despite the fact that the SNM did not attack the city, Isaaq civilians were still targeted and killed by government forces [27], [28], [29], an evacuated foreign aid worker described the situation there as: "Genocide is the only word for it." [30]. With respect to Borama, the town is exclusively inhabited by the Gadabuursi clan [31], [32], which further supports the notion that the Barre regime engaged in selective targeting of the Isaaq by engaging its troops in towns and regions inhabited by them. Koodbuur (talk) 21:23, 17 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The nominator claims that "the article is trying to make it seem that the Isaaq clan of Somalis solely were targeted by the regime." This is categorically false, if you read the article you will see that it stresses that "Other groups were also targeted by Barre's regime, but according to many observers, including the International Crisis Group, "no other Somali community faced such sustained and intense state-sponsored violence" as the Isaaq". The article further illustrates this point in citing African historian, Lidwien Kapteijns who discussed this very point, namely the "targeting of Isaaq people as a distinct group in relation to other groups targeted by the Barre government states" and also provides a quote addressing this specific point, i.e. comparing what the Isaaqs have suffered in relation to other groups:

Collective clan-based violence against civilians always represents a violation of human rights. However, when its goal is to exterminate and expel large numbers of people based on their group identity alone, it becomes clan cleansing. No one has suggested this term for the collective brutalization of the people of Mudug [Majeerteen]. However, for the Northwest [Isaaq], this and even stronger terms (such as genocide) are regularly used. [33]

University of Oxford scholar Mohamed Haji Ingiris also discusses this very aspect of relating the Isaaq genocide to what other groups have suffered, and he makes a clear distinction between the experience of other groups (Majeerteen) relating more to 'a massacre' vs the experience of Isaaq being 'a genocide':

Sémelin identifies two distinctions on the intentions of the génocidaires: the first is to destroy the enemy in order to subjugate, the other to eradicate. It is his definition of massacre—“a form of action that is most often collective and aimed at destroying noncombatants”—that is most applicable to other terror campaigns. This too was a useful framework for understanding Siad Barre’s purpose, unlike the genocide on the Isaaq, which was to defeat and destroy the backbone and political base of the Omar Mohamoud/Majeerteen as a subclan in order for them to surrender themselves to the regime (and this happened later) but not to completely eradicate them as a clan.[34]

Please also note that a United Nations investigation concluded that Isaaq genocide did occur [35], the investigation was conducted by Senior Human Rights Adviser at the United Nations Chris Mburu. Furthermore, the subject has received coverage from numerous sources, on the scholarship side this includes a number of prominent genocide scholars, including Israel Charny [36] executive director of the Institute on the Holocaust and Genocide in Jerusalem, Gregory Stanton [37] Professor in Genocide Studies and founder and president of Genocide Watch, Deborah Mayersen [38] former Program Leader for the Prevention of Genocide and Mass Atrocities at The Asia-Pacific Centre for the Responsibility to Protect at The University of Queensland, and Adam Jones [39] Professor of Genocide studies at The University of British Colombia, to name a few. All discussing the Isaaq genocide specifically as a stand-alone subject, and not lumping it with any other incident. The topic also received substantial coverage in international media outlets, examples of coverage in print include The Guardian [40] and The Washington Post [41] as well as in film evidenced by a documentary by Al Jazeera [42].
The nominator did not offer arguments or evidence that explain how the article violates policy WP:Delete. The article topic is valid and encyclopedic, it meets WP:GNG, WP:NPOV, WP:ORGIND, WP:V and it is indeed not WP:NOR and thus abides by the principal core content policies of Wikipedia.
Please note that this is nothing but a malicious retaliatory report. The initiator has a long history of disruptive edits to this project (Somaliland-related articles) including vandalism and removal of content [43], [44], [45], unsubstantiated accusations of harassment [46], false reports of edit-warring that ends with them getting WP:BOOMERANG blocked [47] [48], coming back after the block and continuing to edit war despite past violations and clear warning from admins link, SPI filings just because someone opposed their views that go nowhere link, the list is very long, so please note this aspect of this filing.Kzl55 (talk) 12:45, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The largest memorial in the centre of the capital city is located in freedom square Hargeisa War Memorial [53], it is dedicated to this genocide and reads (in remembrance of 1988). This page should not be deleted as it provides information on a significant topic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ciiseciise007 (talkcontribs) 18:57, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • It's possible that the article does need to be renamed, but I don't understand the rationale of your suggested title, Soupforone. The Somali National Movement is a group, not the organised killing of Isaaq civilians. Cordless Larry (talk) 06:57, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • As per Cordless Larry above, the Somali National Movement was a group, where as the article's topic is the government sanctioned genocide targeted at civilian members of the Isaaq clan, most of the reliable sources make this distinction clear, be it in print The Washington Post (1990) "In Somalia, the Isaaq clan is the target of government genocide." [55], or as cited by genocide scholars: "Survivors of genocide, that is, people belonging to the group targeted for genocide. In Somalia this was the Issaq tribe, in Rwanda the Tutsi...." Adam Jones [56], or even in official United Nations investigations concluding "Based on the totality of evidence collected in Somaliland and elsewhere both during and after his mission, the consultant firmly believes that the crime of genocide was conceived, planned and perpetrated by the Somali Government against the Isaaq people" [57]. Given the clarity with which reliable sources make this distinction, it seems the nomination for either deletion or renaming is inappropriate. The article abide by WP:GNG and should be kept due to significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources as per first comment above. Kzl55 (talk) 08:56, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Wy1238 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. TimothyJosephWood 13:32, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Please explain how it is misleading. You clearly feel very strongly about this, having created your account just to respond to this AfD. The 'Hargeisa Holocaust' label was used by University of Oxford scholar Mohamed Haji Ingiriis [58], it was also used by former British MP Chris Mullin [59] to describe what took place. Is that what you are objecting to? I ask because it is just a cited note, your objection to one sentence does not warrant the deletion of the entire article. Wikipedia articles rely on the use of reliable sources, and many reliable source, across multiple platforms have discussed what took place and described it as a genocide. Kzl55 (talk) 13:07, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
As to a statement made by the person who started the discussion, I do not think the article in discussion attempts to make the Isaaq in any way "special", that was not the impression I got from the article. ICL2014 (talk) 12:02, 14 May 2017 (UTC)ICL2014[reply]
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The government's response has been brutal. An aerial bombing campaign devastated large sections of the cities and productive areas in the north. Wells have been poisoned, villages have been burned and Isaaq civilians have been rounded up and executed by government troops. President Barre has also supplied weapons to Ethiopian refugees inside Somalia and to opposition Ethiopian groups to attack Isaaq civilians. Africa Watch estimates that 50,000 Somali citizens have been killed during the past year and a half, the majority being Isaaq civilians.[2] Siirski (talk) 18:37, 17 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Some definitions of genocide include acts targeted at clans, Peterkingiron. See, for example, this. Nonetheless, I think we should title the article according to how sources describe the subject rather than using our own judgement of what is and isn't genocide - but that's a discussion for the article talk page. Cordless Larry (talk) 20:14, 17 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Noted, but I am still not sure that this constitutes a genocide. In saying "people", I was seeking to include any ethnic or quasi-ethnic group, which would certainly include a tribe, and perhaps a clan. Peterkingiron (talk) 20:20, 17 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Peterkingiron, please note that the use of genocide is in accordance with a United Nations investigation, conducted by a UN senior human rights advisor, which concluded: "based on the totality of evidence collected in Somaliland and elsewhere both during and after his mission, the consultant firmly believes that the crime of genocide was conceived, planned and perpetrated by the Somali Government against the Isaaq people" [60], in addition to its use by scholarship including genocide scholarship: [61], [62], [63], [64], [65], [66], [67], [68], [69]. Kzl55 (talk) 20:24, 17 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Tony Worthington, a retired British parliamentarian, described the devastation that he witnessed when visiting Hargeisa in 1992 as an MP who was part of the Select Committee on International Development:

The devastation was caused by the country's ruler, Siad Barre. In 1988, we had the extraordinary situation in which Barre's aircraft would take off from Hargeysa airport, bomb and strafe the city, load up again at the airport and carry on. They continued until there were 50,000 dead in Hargeysa and hundreds of thousands dead in the rest of Somaliland. Those people are now buried in mass graves, and the rest of the population fled. That was the most extreme attempt at genocide against the dominant Isaq clan, but the world ignored it. Source

All in all, the article is well sourced, notable, and of encyclopedic merit and should not be deleted. Koodbuur (talk) 21:23, 17 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
As per Somaajeeste, most reliable sources on the bombardment appear to refer to it as a conflict between the Somalia government and the Isaaq clan-dominated Somali National Movement rebel group; particularly those dating from that actual time period. Also, "Isaaq genocide" has zero Google Ngrams compared to "Somali National Movement" [34]. This indicates that the latter is indeed the scholarly WP:COMMONNAME. (quoted from Soupforone)
Siad Barre's regime was simply reacting in a brutal and ghastly manner to the Somali-National-Movement's formation and actions yet this article makes it look as though there has always been some sort of "Isaaq problem" in Somalia and that this is what somehow led to an eventual so-called genocide. What's even more troubling is what Somalijeeste has noted:
"as AcdiSnow mentioned on talk page After reviewing this users past edits, such as: continuously removing its territorial dispute with neighboring region Puntland in favor of Somaliland (see here, here, here, here, here, and here), changing the map of Somaliland to present it as separate nation (see here, here, and here), removing the disputed Khatumo State (see here), and changing Somalia's map to present its dispute with its Somaliland region as if it had some form of international recognition (see here, here, and here), the majority of the events already mentioned and those of other clans are current present on the Somali Rebellion article. this article seems to be further WP:PROPAGANDA."
It's quite obvious that the creator of this page is essentially a Somaliland-Nationalist adding yet another notch onto a long-line of WP:PROPAGANDA. The purpose this page serves likely being that it will hopefully fester some sort of deep grievance between Isaaq clan Somalis and the reset of their brethren in the Somali-Peninsula as well as act as some sort of source to utilize in public discourse when arguing for why Somaliland should separate. If this page won't be deleted; I recommend the removal of at least the "Background" section which the page's author decided to just tack on of his own volition and, as other editors have suggested, the renaming or revamping of this article to be about the atrocities suffered by all the Somali clans at the hands of both state and non-state actors. Although, that might be unnecessary as we already have the Somali Rebellion article for just that. So I recommend a deletion more than a revamping. Awale-Abdi (talk) 06:38, 20 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • I will not respond to any WP:PERSONAL attacks, please stick to the topic at hand. The extensive background section was important to place the subject in context for the reader, your claim that there is an ulterior motive for this is unfounded. Please see similar structure in other related articles, including a background section with a pre-colonial sub-heading, you can start with Rwandan genocide. You have neglected to state exactly how the article fails WP:GNG which govern whether or not a subject is notable enough to warrant its own article. You should not be questioning what the purpose of the page is, but you can question if it complies with WP policy. Worthy of note is even in its 'original state' as you call it, when it had neither a background section nor a pre-colonial subheading, you voted to delete the article in a previous AfD nomination attempt as well [70].
Note to closing admin: Please be aware that the editor above (Awale-Abdi) per their own admission, belongs to the same Darod clan family as the perpetrator of the genocide General Siad Barre (link), this may explain bias observed in their vote (both times) as they share clan identity with named figures responsible for the killing such as Barre, Morgan and others. Please also note that, by their own admission, Awale-Abdi is also an acquaintance of AcidSnow (the nominator of the first AfD attempt) as per their admission [71], this is important because Awale-Abdi came here to vote for deletion having not posted anything for the last 30 days as per Special:Contributions/Awale-Abdi, and this somehow coincided with AcidSnow's first post in four months Special:Contributions/AcidSnow on the exact same day. Both of them came back to WP after long absence and their first posts back were separated by minutes (Awale-Abdi, 05:59) [72] and (AcidSnow, 05:13, [73]) which strongly suggests collusion and canvassing outside of Wikipedia. The nominator of this AfD has already canvassed editor Soupforone and a report was filed link. Please also note that AcidSnow (nominator of the first AfD) and Somajeeste (nominator of the current AfD) are being investigated for sockpuppetry here Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/AcidSnow. Kzl55 (talk) 16:14, 20 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Both of you, Awale-Abdi and Kzl55, please avoid commenting on each other and please assume good faith. Just focus on valid arguments citing the reliable sources and appropriate guidelines. Awale-Abdi: multiple RS and scholarly sources do characterize this as Isaaq genocide (click on books and scholar links in the two Find Sources at the top of this page). The article attempts to summarize these sources. Given that many RS discuss this sensitive topic, why do you believe the article is WP:PROPAGANDA? For the revamp part of your "delete or revamp" vote, please list any reliable source(s) with a different POV that have not been summarized yet. Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 22:18, 20 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete all. There hasn't been an articulated reason to merge these articles, while there has been one for deletion. Kurykh (talk) 22:50, 24 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

April 2006 in Malaysia and Singapore

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Far too detailed for a top-level page. This looks like a personal project that was abandoned. Many similar articles. Power~enwiki (talk) 02:17, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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I am also nominating the following related pages because unnecessary to remain as Wikipedia stand-alone article by month:

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October 2005 in Africa (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
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More similar articles can be found inside template below. To be noted, those pages should be included in the Wikinews project but not Wikipedia encyclopedia project. It is obviously can be seen that those articles was created since end of 2004 and left abandoned by Wikipedia enthusiast editors a few years later due to other more important commitments. Seems unmaintainable and unsustainable, unfortunately. Alexander Iskandar (talk) 22:24, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Not sure, but that should not have any impact on the outcome of the AfD. However, yes there will be a lot of work to do. One approach might be to seek the assistance of the relevant YYYY in Country active editors. I quick look at a few of the YYYY in Country articles seems to show that there are two or three very active editors for each country. Aoziwe (talk) 11:32, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:20, 21 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Contested PROD. Concern was Article about a footballer who fails WP:GNG and who has not played in a fully pro league. PROD was contested based on an claim that Filipino top flight is fully pro. This is contradicted by source cited at WP:FPL Sir Sputnik (talk) 01:51, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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No, playing in official cup competitions, whether national or continental, only confers notability if both clubs involved in the match in question play their league football in a fully pro league. Sir Sputnik (talk) 14:22, 15 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. This closure encompasses the parallel AfDs for the articles Alternative Right and AltRight.com, which are both about the same website. Consensus is that we need only one article about it, which I take to be Alternative Right as the more developed version of the article. It is not clear as to whether there is also consensus that the website is notable, or whether the article about it could be merged to the article about its creator Richard B. Spencer. This can continue to be discussed separately.  Sandstein  13:01, 21 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Not notable enough. Snooganssnoogans (talk) 21:00, 28 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Very slim coverage by reliable sources. It's primarily mentioned as a hate website by leftwing sites or by organizations that seek out to identify hate groups (SPLC). If there is wide coverage by numerous reliable sources, it's far far from apparent by reading the Wikipedia article. As it stands, the purpose of the Wikipedia page seems to be to give attention to website and make it seem more notable than it is. Snooganssnoogans (talk) 09:40, 30 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Comment This account "RileyCohen" has made edits to exactly 3 article pages in its entire history: Memetic engineering, Neil Gorsuch, and Avery Sandberg. He's made a total of 23 edits of any substance and disappears for long stretches in-between fits of activity, yet is well-versed in Wikipedia procedures. If this isn't a sockpuppet, I'm Mickey Mouse. Rockypedia (talk) 17:31, 10 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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I can't find any mention of the website in that Slate article. Snooganssnoogans (talk) 10:45, 5 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Daily Kos diaries that aren't written or explicitly endorsed by their editorial staff should not be considered a source of notability. Comments should never give notability. Power~enwiki (talk) 17:49, 5 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Deathlibrarian Just to be clear, this is not 'Alternative Right' (the concept) but 'Alternative Right' (the website). Snooganssnoogans (talk) 07:32, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, ok thanks very much Snooganssnoogans I was confused. I'll modify my comment Deathlibrarian (talk) 07:54, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was merge to Alternative Right. This closure encompasses the parallel AfDs for the articles Alternative Right and AltRight.com, which are both about the same website. Consensus is that we need only one article about it, which I take to be Alternative Right as the more developed version of the article. It is not clear as to whether there is also consensus that the website is notable, or whether the article about it could be merged to the article about its creator Richard B. Spencer. This can continue to be discussed separately.  Sandstein  13:01, 21 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Not notable enough. Snooganssnoogans (talk) 20:48, 28 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment This "PerfectlyIrrational" account was registered less than one month ago and has made sporadic edits, all of which have been on pages associated with alt-right topics, and the edits have been from a decidedly pro-alt-right POV. Just making a note of that. Rockypedia (talk) 17:24, 10 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Most of these sources just make off-hand remarks to it while covering Spencer or the Alt Right movement as a whole. We don't create specific Wikipedia articles for every single website that happens to earn an off-hand mention. Snooganssnoogans (talk) 10:43, 5 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Both the alt-right and Spencer already have articles. Why would that make this site inherently notable? Grayfell (talk) 03:34, 9 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus.  Sandstein  13:57, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Three-year-old unsigned rock band from Chicago. All the puffery on Earth doesn't make this group notable. Calton | Talk 06:16, 28 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

With the upmost respect, I disagree most emphatically. While they may be an unsigned band, my understanding of the guidelines for music notability suggest that the fact the Walters have "received non-trivial coverage in independent reliable sources of an international concert tour, or a national concert tour in at least one sovereign country" makes them notable. I posit that we should move away from some of the conventional methods of determining an artist's notability, such as putting so much weight on being signed to a recording label. In the modern musical climate, it is quite possible to achieve notability without one. Perhaps more consideration should be put into the fact that the band has charted on Spotify's "United States Viral Top 50", a list that regularly features artist who are unquestionably deserved of Wikipedia entries. As music is often consumed through streaming services such as Spotify (statistics compiled by Nielsen suggest 317 billion songs were streamed in 2015), the significance of this feat should not be overlooked. I would also like to strongly reject the assertion that the article is filled with "puffery", and while I revere your dedication to Wikipedia and I appreciate your criticism, I intend to remove the deletion tag. As I have taken steps to meet the guidelines for notability, I feel a consensus should be reached if this article is to be deleted. Thanks --Zachrom (talk) 15:47, 28 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
What "non-trivial coverage" would you be referring to? From "Medium"? It's a blogging platform. From the Columbia Chronicle? It's a local college's student newspaper. The Vice posting? It's a music-video release announcement. And your attempts to rewrite notability standards notwithstanding, nobody outside of Chicago -- and apparently not much within Chicago, either -- has said much at all about this band. --Calton | Talk 18:54, 28 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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I'm uncertain about the source by Ben Niespodziany (These Days). The name seems incredibly familiar for some reason and I can't put my finger on why. I'd like to say that I've seen him writing for RS in the past, which may give These Days some credibility, but without pinpointing that I can't rely on that to help the sourcing out. The site does have a staff and doesn't seem to solicit user submitted content, which is good, but they also don't have anything about their editorial process and from what I can find, the site was launched in 2015. There's not a lot out there, so I'd lean towards this being a self-published source and not really a notability giving WP:RS right now. Medium.com would also be considered a non-RS SPS in this situation. They do have a staff that writes content, but they also accept user submitted content - and this looks to be a user submitted article from what I can see. Staff content might be usable, though. As far as the college newspapers go, a select few can be considered usable. Those are usually the ones who have won very major, notable journalism awards, however these are relatively few and far between. I'm not as familiar with journalism awards to tell whether or not the ones that this paper has received would count. Other than that, the sources are all primary.
Offhand this looks like it's a band that has gotten some decent press and are inching closer to passing NBAND, but haven't quite passed it yet. NBAND can be fairly hard to meet for indie and local bands as far as notability guidelines go, partially because so much of the coverage can be local and based on press releases. My recommendation would be for you (or any other interested editor) to incubate the article and see if they gain more coverage after appearing in Lollapalooza, as that's a fairly major festival. Zachrom, don't let this discourage you - right now the best thing to do would be to continue looking for sourcing and if necessary, incubate the article until more coverage becomes available. I can help you with this even after classes end, if you like. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 08:08, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Draftify. Both Pmemeda and Power~enwiki highlight concerns about WP:TOOSOON, and point out that more coverage may emerge after Lollapalooza. Why not draftify until then? If more coverage emerges, great, we add it in and move it back to mainspace. If not, then the article can exist as a draft for at least 6 months, which is a reasonable amount of time to see if any other coverage emerges. ♠PMC(talk) 00:10, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. If the article's creator or someone else wishes to retrieve the article to work on it in userspace, please leave me a note. SoWhy 10:20, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Arvind Vinod

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No significant coverage in independent reliable sources to support general notability guideline and no indication of passing WP:NACTOR. GSS (talk|c|em) 11:16, 5 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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@Kailash29792: Can you plaese explain what reliable sources? GSS (talk|c|em) 12:20, 5 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Alright, you beat me to this. Only The Hindu, Rediff and Maalai Malar are what Wikipedia would call "reliable sources". Instead this could be draftified. --Kailash29792 (talk) 12:52, 5 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Kailash29792: The sources in the article are not independent of the subject also there is no indepth coverage in multiple independent reliable sources as required by the WP:GNG and a Google news search result showing nothing helpful at all so how it passes notability? GSS (talk|c|em) 13:02, 5 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Why are you still beating a dead horse? I already said you could remove the article from the mainspace, but allow a draft article to exist in its place. Kailash29792 (talk) 13:06, 5 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
No I'm not, I just asked you because of your comment above there are sufficient reliable sources to confirm the actor's notability. I appreciate your suggestion but I'm surprised how an experianced editor like you can ignore standard of our general notability guideline. GSS (talk|c|em) 13:49, 5 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, it was my mistake to assume that just those few reliable sources were "sufficient", and I'm sorry. --Kailash29792 (talk) 14:01, 5 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Withdrawn. Withdrawn by nominator prior to re-listing. (non-admin closure) Exemplo347 (talk) 09:57, 21 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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References are numerous, but the majority are either from his own website sungchili.com (over 80 links) or ancient books like Book of Changes and Gospel of Luke which couldn't have mentioned him. Even the 16th-century novel Journey to the West is one of the references. The subject may be notable (or notorious) judging from the zh.wiki article, but this article is nothing more than WP:LINKFARM, WP:PROMOTION, WP:NOTWEBHOST and has been this way for many many years. There's clearly WP:COI too as the page creator uploaded a personal legal document proving he wasn't guilty. Best to delete per WP:TNT. Timmyshin (talk) 23:07, 5 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Exemplo347 (talk) 09:55, 21 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The article has been on AfD in 2015, and the decision was merge as the subjest is not notable. Today an account with 27 total edits restored the article, claiming the individual is notable because of her diviorce, and indeed added some info about the divorce. The article is slightly different from the version of two years ago, and therefore AfD seems to be a suitable process to delete it, rather than CSD. Ymblanter (talk) 08:43, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Follow-up: Speedy struck on the presumption of revdelling. Re WP:OSE, the same case applies for for keeping Tarek El Moussa as a separate article vs redirecting to Flip Or Flop as it does to Christine El Moussa. The issue with both is that their individual notability does not appear separable from each other, nor does their combined notability appear separable from Flip or Flop. Almost all of this article is actually about the couple and their combined activities, as is, for instance, the provided story. Considering the three possibilities (1: separate pages for each + separate page for Flip or Flop; 2: combined page for the pair plus separate page for Flip or Flop; 3: combined detail at Flip or Flop)... Option 1 results in blanket duplication across at least two pages. Option 2 would allow duplication to be avoided, which I find an acceptable compromise, though some might find this awkward given the personal split although they remain a professional duo. ~Hydronium~Hydroxide~(Talk)~ 11:00, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Exemplo347 (talk) 09:56, 21 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The article has no references and most of the claims have been tagged since 2012. From looking through "news" articles, they are either interviews or WP:PRIMARY sources or they reference the alleged fraud WP:ONEEVENT. The entire article reads like a CV. -- HighKing++ 14:36, 29 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Comment: we are now seeing keep !votes from editors with no other edits on en-WP than creating promotional articles about non-notable Nigerian bloggers, rappers etc, and !voting keep when articles of that kind created by others are nominated for deletion. Making me believe that we're seeing a group of people engaging in paid editing. - Tom | Thomas.W talk 10:51, 11 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Do you really have enough information to suggest paid editing? This sounds like WP:BADFAITH to me. And I hope I'm not part of the "editors" you're implying are engaged in promotional editing, WP:COI and WP:PAIDEDITING is something I've never violated since joining here. Darreg (talk) 18:16, 11 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Winged Blades Godric 17:59, 21 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Does not cite any sources. Does not meet Wikipedia's general notability guideline. BangJan1999 (talk) 09:36, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I also noticed that the article creator hadn't been told about this, so I added a notice to Wonderwizard (talk · contribs)'s talk page in case they want to contribute. Mortee (talk) 15:00, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Kurykh (talk) 01:53, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Per WP:BLP1E. Other than their death there is nothing notable about this person. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 15:46, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Delete. Michig (talk) 11:52, 20 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

M J Khalid

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Possible WP:HOAX. Can't find any stories he as written, and refs seems to be mix of blogs, dead ends and odd listing. Refs are not consistent. Fails WP:BIO. scope_creep (talk) 16:21, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Kurykh (talk) 01:54, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Shamas Nawab Siddiqui

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Notability is not inherited from family members per WP:NOTINHERITED, and I don't see in-depth coverage in multiple, independent, reliable sources per general notability guideline. GSS (talk|c|em) 16:36, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Kurykh (talk) 01:54, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The Kimber Bombs

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Team doesn't meet WP:GNG. Individuals are notable, but team is not. No significant coverage of team in reliable independent sources. Majority of article is about the individuals' careers rather than the actual team and sources are WP:ROUTINE. Nikki311 21:13, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Kurykh (talk) 01:54, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Broadcast 3.0

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A total marketing skit. Non notable term. Reads like whitepaper from company. Fails WP:GNG. scope_creep (talk) 19:12, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Technology-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 21:19, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Internet-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 21:19, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 00:06, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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