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The result was delete.  Sandstein  16:04, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Microgeomatics[edit]

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promotional fgnievinski (talk) 23:57, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Why delete this entry? A reason should be given. (Michel Berthiaume)— Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.163.138.161 (talk) 00:37, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Non-notable synonym of indoor positioning; based on a single source: [1], [2]. fgnievinski (talk) 22:02, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. As many editors have pointed out, the subject is a public transportation organization for Latur, a major Indian city. Several editors argued that the article should be kept or that the content should be preserved because it is more likely than not for the public transportation organization of such a major city to be notable.
However, throughout the AfD, an in-depth investigation into available coverage of the organization was conducted, and there has been no evidence presented that a public "Latur Municipal Transport" exists. According to a few sources, it is possible bus transportation within Latur is provided by a private organization, not public. There is also a general feeling that a "Latur Municipal Transport" may have once existed; however, even routine coverage (historical or otherwise) such as bus times couldn't be found, even by one user (the nominator) who lives near the area.
While I appreciate the argument to preserve content where possible, the article is unsourced, and absent evidence of verifiability, I don't see any other outcome here than delete. The title may be redirected at editorial discretion. Mz7 (talk) 22:03, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Latur Municipal Transport[edit]

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Not encyclopaedic topic. No scope for improvement as no sources are available online nor offline. None of the provided links in the references section work either. In other words no source/refs to entire article. The topic of the article can be efficiently described within the article of Laturusernamekiran[talk] 11:48, 13 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Yes, AfD is not cleanup. But keeping every article ever created is not "building encyclopaedia" either.
As it was mentioned in the article itself, the number of buses and ferries are considerably low. Not notable. It can be adequately covered in the article of Latur city. —usernamekiran (talk) 23:35, 24 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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@Northamerica1000: this is being a ping-pong. Would you please take a bold decision either to keep or delete the article? Thanks. —usernamekiran (talk) 15:16, 27 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment @David Tornheim: I am from the city near Latur. I visited Latur like 2-3 years ago, at that time there were not many ferries, just a few. They were on very limited routes too. It is definitely not notable for wikipedia article. But as I am the proposer for deletion, my comment shouldn't be considered. And my findings while I was in Latur city can't be taken as source either. I think the article should be merged in article of Latur city, with appropriate description on Latur Municipal Corporation.
    The article seriously lacks WP:RS. I tried a lot to find even unreliable sources, but couldn't. Before proposing deletion, I tried to improve the article, but there is no way to improve it. I think, the article should be merged. But as it was on wiki for a very long time, and for other reasons, I could not perform a bold merger. —usernamekiran(talk) 15:32, 5 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I see where you are coming from, and I would support a merge, if I could be sure it even exists. I could find nothing in Marathi, Kennada or Urdu by doing Google and Wikipedia searches that confirms there is such a thing as "Latur Municipal Transport" with the letter "LMT" on the buses. (Admittedly, the article on our Wikipedias in these language are very weak compared to those in English). Can you find anything? Even images of these buses? Since I don't know these languages my searches might not have been correct, but I did spend a while and was surprised I could not find anything. --David Tornheim (talk) 22:54, 5 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@David Tornheim: This photo on flickr is the most confusing one. It was taken on August 22, 2012. The LED panel on bus reads "Latur Municipal Corporation Transport Project". The uploader was surprised to see ads of private companies on these buses (govt offices mostly advertise for other govt schemes or awareness), one comment stated the buses are privately owned, the other comment corroborated this claim.
The article from Sakal news Nov 19, 2013; states municipality proposed to establish city bus service (not a decision).
This facebook post of clipping of same Sakal newspaper, dated May 26, 2015 (newspaper date) states that only two buses were provided to municipal corporation. So we can be sure that there was no city bus service by government (LMT) till at least April 2015. The article is obviously based on false information. —usernamekiran(talk) 23:49, 5 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Did you notice the comments at the bottom of the picture on Flickr?
  1. Latur Municipal Corporation runs its mini buses by ACGL. These buses have ads from private bus operators on them.
  2. This services are operated by Pushkaraj Travelles......!!
  3. Thats why it has ads from Pushakaraj Travels on it.
That suggests that Pushkaraj Travelles is the private entity that runs it, information that was just deleted by Ninney on 4 May 2015. I was confused for a while, because I mistakenly thought that Latur Municipal Corporation being established as recently as 25 October 2011 with abbreviation "LMCG" (sounding like a stock Ticker symbol) meant it was a private for-profit corporation that ran buses for profit and possibly for other things, and I thought this was some promotional article. I have to rethink my previous approach based on that mistaken assumption. Now I see that according to our article, it is actually a new form of government of the city. So it is possible that LMT is the government entity that oversees contractors, such as Pushakaraj Travels.
Is it safe to assume you are fluent and/or can read Marathi, Kennada, Urdu and/or Hinidi? Trying to google all of these things in four different languages, none of which I know is quite a challenge--but I do like a challenge!  :) Certainly interesting learning about other cultures by being able to read direct documents via Google translate.
One thing I had trouble figuring out was how to use the government run website(s) to find a public run bus system. I believe one official website is latur.nic.in (Google Translated to English) (which appears to be for for Latur district rather than Latur city), which I found from the Kannada page for Latur, kn:ವಿಶೇಷ:AboutTopic/Q61394 (Google translated to English). I would think that would help answer our question. However, when I went to that site (in Marathi) (and possibly some others), I did not see anything on a public bus system, only that the municipal corp. runs the bus stops. For that site (latur.nic.in), there is a link for "Bus reservation" (in English) that is part of Maharashtra_State_Road_Transport_Corporation which is for regional intercity rather than intracity. Our page says that it runs both intercity and intracity. Are we really sure that there is such a thing as the Latur Municipal Transport? I'm losing confidence this is a separate entity and not simply part of the MSRTC.
This might be the City's website: http://www.mclatur.org (Note: upper right has an option to read page in English), which has a copy of the budget here, but unfortunately Google translate can't translate the PDF to English. I imagine the budget should say home much money is dedicated to intercity transport and might include who the contracts are with. Pinging @Usernamekiran: and @Ninney: for this and my most recent posts preceding.
The "tenders" page lists the various departments for the City, but there is none for transportation or buses, but maybe under another department? --David Tornheim (talk) 07:38, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@David Tornheim: Yes, I've native fluency in Marathi, and Hindi. I've level 2 fluency in many languages from India, including Kannada, telugu, tamil, gujrati, and marwadi among a few others. But I can't read any of the languages except Marathi, Hindi, and Sanskrit. I'm level 3 in Urdu, but again can't read it.

I checked through all the links you provided, you are right, there are no mentions at all. While searching, I also came across Latur Municipal Corporation, which makes few blatant false claims. But I can't remove/change them without RS. I will do it once we are done with this AfD.

As you said, the MSRTC is totally a different organisation. It is Maharashtra state government's dept. It owns buses for intercity travel only, and in some tourists spots, they have guest houses too. From the sources I have been going through since past 2 weeks, all I could get was peacock words, and no mention of LMT. Some sources made passing references that the bus stop is handled by municipal body, which can be applied for the bus stop of MSRTC, which provides only intercity buses. Or the sources might be talking about bus stops for privately owned buses. Like taxi stands, government body provides place for taxi stands, where individual registered taxi drivers can park their vehicles. In this case, there should not be an article.

Actually, because the recent findings, I'm not even sure if LMT, if there was any, is still operational. While in Latur, I might have seen a private bus which I mistook for govt bus.

In any case, the article should be redirected to LMC or Latur, with appropriate content with RS there. At the least, lack of content might attract anon users to add some content which can we later verify. —usernamekiran(talk) 08:49, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your reply. Now I know who to ping when there is a question regarding those languages. :) Sounds like we are on the same page. FYI, I made this edit based on our discussion. We might want to copy some of this discussion to the talk page of one or more of the articles, or as least point to it. Regarding MSRTC, you said it is only intercity, but our article says in the sidebar "Local bus service in selected cities," so I think they do some intracity, and that might include Latur City. Of course, that article might be wrong. Did you find it stated else where that MSRTC is exclusively intercity? Also, you did say that the bus in the Fickr picture said "Latur Municipal Transport," so the author of the article might have based on it on seeing those names. Possibly the name is not a legal, corporate or other official entity but just an identifying moniker that MSRTC and/or a private entity slaps on the buses for the benefit of their customers to know that it is local bus rather than intercity. Does that sound right to you? I agree with you from my reading that it appears that many bus stops are maintained by a government entity (I think Latur District), and I too got the feeling that some or most of those stops were used by other entities, likely including private buses such as Pushkaraj Travels. --David Tornheim (talk) 14:30, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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@David Tornheim: I will be more than happy to provide my assistance. :-)
I just read this primary source, and didnt find anything about intra-city. I am sure they would have boasted about it lol. As per my knowledge, not official though, MSRTC usually provide vehicles to Municipal corporations or other bodies, and traning for the employees. But the "intra-city activities" fall under the local governing body including transport. So in most of the cases they are owned and operated by local governing body.

Yes, the LED panel in the photo says "लातूर महानगरपालीका परीवहन उपक्रम" (Latur Mahanagar Palika Parivahan Upakram, Latur municipal corporation transport project). The square box on left says "city bus" in devnagiri. The board kept on dashboard/windshield says "गंजगोलाई"/Ganjgolai, a landmark from city, and an article that I boldly merged to Latur a few weeks ago. —usernamekiran(talk) 04:35, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Take a look at this:
"City Bus Services
S.T. operates City Bus Service in 7 different cities of Maharashtra State. City Bus Service is operated in Nashik, Nanded, Ratnagiri, Miraj, Vasai, Nalasopara, Aurngabad & Chandrapur."
So it looks like they do some intracity bus service, as was mentioned on the MSRTC page. This is where they show the bus depots and bus stands they run. --David Tornheim (talk) 04:18, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Usernamekiran: I think I found what we need! Look at this [3]:
"Intracity transport
'Latur Municipal Transport' is an intra-city bus service which covers almost all parts of the city and also connects to the more distant industrial suburbs. LMT (Latur Municipal Transport) intra-city buses ply throughout the city including the outskirts and connect different parts of the city and adjoining suburbs together."
Of course, there is a chance they got the information from Wikpedia... --David Tornheim (talk) 04:26, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
On second thought it does appear to have been taken from Wikipedia. I see other site has the exact same language in other wikipedia-like articles: [4][5] [6]. --David Tornheim (talk) 04:32, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@David Tornheim: yes, they do operate/provide service in cities, but it is owned by local body like municipality or municipal corporation.
yes, it is exactly like a previous version of either Latur or LMT page. But don't know which came first, wiki or that website.
also, the ST website doesn't mention Latur. I don't think LMT exists currently. —usernamekiran(talk) 12:12, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
All three of the links given by Mr. Tornheim clearly identify wikipedia as the source of the information - there is no question about "which came first." Kuru (talk) 14:44, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]


@Ivanvector: hi. Thanks for your input. I agree with your point of WP:NOTTEMPORARY, and preservation. But I am still not sure how many buses were operated by government. The only available source says two buses were provided, but they were used ones and require maintenance. The source doesnt mention if they were actually used by the corporation later. The other buses which were operational were privately owned (on limited routes, and not many ferries), so the size of city becomes irrelevant here. As it was owned by private company/companies, it isnt exactly a "public transport". I think it should be merged in the article of Latur city, with mention in Latur Municipal Corporation. —usernamekiran(talk) 17:40, 10 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Usernamekiran What reliable secondary sources do we have that establish the existence (or prior existence) of Latur Municipal Transport? I do believe with much confidence based on the many observations we have and other forms of evidence that it must have existed at some point. The problem we have had all along is having no decent WP:RS, despite hours of research looking. So, I'm not sure even a redirect or any mention at another article is even appropriate, until WP:RS can be found. It is of particular concern to me that we might give the impression that a defunct set of buses is operating if it is not--misleading potential riders. If we delete all mention of it, and it does (or did) exist, then perhaps someone from Latur would show up, argue for creating the article (or other mention of it), and once again we can ask for the badly needed WP:RS. What do you think? --David Tornheim (talk) 19:25, 10 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@David Tornheim and Ivanvector: I partially agree. As I commented previously: "the article should be redirected to LMC or Latur, with appropriate content with RS there. At the least, lack of content might attract anon users to add some content which can we later verify." I think we should make a passing reference. The fact that original creator made contributions after the AfD notice was delievered to him, and yet did not comment here; makes me even more doubtful. —usernamekiran(talk) 19:35, 10 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Usernamekiran: Is there any WP:RS? After all the research we did, I am not aware of any. If you believe there is,. can you provide the link(s)? --David Tornheim (talk) 20:32, 10 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@David Tornheim: nope. Never found any. —usernamekiran(talk) 20:37, 10 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@L3X1: per the last two comments immediately above, Usernamekiran and I have spent hours looking for WP:RS establishing the existence of the subject and we have found nothing. Can you provide WP:RS for even one site? Note: that everything we found mentioning it was copied from Wikipedia. Without any independent WP:RS, I just don't see how we can keep the article or even justify a redirect or mention in another article, much less establish notability. --David Tornheim (talk) 00:46, 11 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
David Tornheim Not a single sources that isn't plagiarising Wikipedia. I tried Google, Bing, JSTOr, all those nice link at the top, I varied my serach criteria, and came up blank. d.g. L3X1 (distant write) 01:12, 11 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]


Thank you all for your considaration, and inputs. Some of you spent few minutes, or an hour on this issue. Whereas Mr. Tornheim has put a lot of hours in that. I invested a lot more time than anybody here. When I first came around the article, as always, my priority was to improve it. I tried that. After realising that there arent sources available now, i tried to look for newspapers. No result. Then I proposed for deletion. When Mr. Tornheim got involved, we looked futher with no results. Because of Mr Tornheim's findings, L3X1 changed "delete" vote to "neutral". I request everybody who prviously particiapted in this AfD to cast their votes again, in the light of recent findings/discussion taken place here. @Smartyllama, Winged Blades of Godric, AusLondonder, and David Tornheim:
  1. Delete with no redirect. I was the original proposer. If there is a breif passing reference to LMT on the article of Latur city, the lack of content might attract people from Latur to contribute to the article, later which we can improve. —usernamekiran(talk) 23:28, 11 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Delete per consensus. Single keep comment is not supported by facts. --Anthony Bradbury"talk" 22:24, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Charli Evans[edit]

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Doesn't meet WP:GNG or WP:ENTERTAINER. No significant coverage in reliable independent sources. Sources in article are primary or WP:ROUTINE. Nikki311 21:20, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Kurykh (talk) 19:00, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Tristan Archer[edit]

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Doesn't meet WP:GNG or WP:ENTERTAINER. No significant coverage in reliable independent sources. Sources in article are WP:ROUTINE match results. Nikki311 21:03, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Kurykh (talk) 19:00, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Alli Royce Soble[edit]

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WP:BLP of a photographer, which is based almost entirely on primary (her own website) and unreliable (Soundcloud clips, blogs) sources with very little evidence of the depth or breadth of reliable source coverage needed to clear WP:GNG. The only acceptable sources present here at all are the local LGBT community paper of the city where she works, and two of those three sources are just supporting that she won "Best Local Artist" in its annual reader survey -- which is not a notability claim that passes WP:NARTIST in and of itself -- and the third is a Q&A interview in which she's talking about herself, which is a class of sourcing that would be acceptable for supplementary confirmation of stray facts after GNG had already been covered off by stronger sourcing, but cannot be the foundation of a GNG claim all by itself as the only reliable source in an article. The necessary quality of sourcing simply isn't here, and nothing claimed in the article is strong enough to earn her a presumption of notability in the absence of the necessary quality of sourcing. Bearcat (talk) 20:31, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Mkdw talk 22:55, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

City of sound[edit]

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Non-notable band with no coverage that I can find. "City of Sound" generates plenty of hits on gnews, etc...but doesn't appear to be coverage of the band itself. Claims of a mention in Alternative Press but as far as I can tell it was a paragraph long mention about being an unsigned band. The Absolute Punk "review" appears to be from a message board. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 19:54, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. North America1000 00:23, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

2018 Lausanne U-21 Football Cup[edit]

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Not notable. Fails WP:NFOOTBALL scope_creep (talk) 19:48, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 03:12, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The Hallmarks of Aging[edit]

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earlier i had moved this page to draft as this page seems just a copy paste..but he did not make any change and moved it again... it looks like maker of this page published his own research.... in some para there are dead citation (that why look like copy paste) this article did not summaries topic... "Life extension" article which can explain the related topic is already there and in last look at ref he written ... clearly a copy paste error India1277 (talk) 19:30, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hello - this page was created by a group of students and their instructors in a college course on the biology of aging. The course centered around the review article that is the subject of this page. Individual students summarized the concepts underlying each hallmark of aging listed in the article, and wrote a section summarizing research that has been published since the article. To the best of our knowledge, the work discussed is correctly cited. This is not a report of our own research. The cutting and pasting was a result of our technical issues in entering the text from several students' sandboxes on the final day of our course, and we did not understand what had caused the page to suddenly be labeled as a draft. We hope you will not delete the page; we are open to correcting it in a way that will make it acceptable. We also note that while there is a Wikipedia page on aging, there is not one on the "Hallmarks of Aging" article. There is a page on an analogous review article entitled The Hallmarks of Cancer, so we thought it would be appropriate to have one on The Hallmarks of Aging. Thank you! Jlevinegoucher (talk) 20:49, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You might want to review this page and try again. The article you and your students have created, does not meet our guidelines for article creation, editing and reliable sources. Your students have created the article based entirely on one review article in a medical journal. You can contribute to Ageing, and create a section within that article. But we do not need a separate article entitled "Hallmarks of Ageing." SW3 5DL (talk) 03:58, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Respectfully, it seems that the same could be said of The Hallmarks of Cancer page. A scientific review article, particularly one published in a peer-reviewed journal such as Cell, represents an unbiased description of a broad body of research. On the page we created, we then summarized research that has occurred since publication of the 2013 Cell review, citing the individual primary journal articles discussed. While we think it would be unfortunate and inconsistent to remove this page, we could consider moving it to Wikiversity, where we have a learning project devoted to our Seminar in Biological Mechanisms of Aging and Cancer. We do not agree that our material would be an appropriate addition to the Ageing entry. We did create links to our page from two other pages, Senescence and Life Extension, that cite the Hallmarks of Aging article. Jlevinegoucher (talk) 20:10, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Kurykh (talk) 19:00, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Natalie Reid[edit]

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She doesn't meet WP:POLITICIAN or WP:GNG. This Natalie Reid does not seem to be connected to the person whose article was deleted at AfD previously. Boleyn (talk) 19:09, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Kurykh (talk) 19:00, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Bricklin (band)[edit]

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Non-notable band - I can't find any coverage of the band or it's members aside from a single appearance of a song in the mentioned movie. I also can't find any record of appearing on any charts. Fails WP:NBAND CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 18:58, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Kurykh (talk) 19:02, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Abdullah Muzaffar[edit]

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Seems to fail WP:MUSICBIO and WP:BASIC due to lack of available reliable sources. Quasar G t - c 18:43, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This article needs some improvements but there is nothing for which it should be removed. But I repeat it requures some inprovement on different places which should be sort out. AngelaRola (talk) 19:31, 6 May 2017 (UTC) — AngelaRola (talkcontribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

@Wapunguissa: I applied WP:BEFORE, and found a lack of reliable sources (only one result from a Google news search is a telltale sign) hence my nomination comment. I judged that, because of this issue with notability, the creator would not be able to improve the article to a standard that passes the GNG, even if I'd given them more time. Anyway, they can still edit the article to try and prove notability while this discussion runs its course. Quasar G t - c 23:23, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Toofaan12 (talkcontribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

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It will be investigated. You also seems to have few more socks listed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Arslan Sheraz. --Saqib (talk) 08:53, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I have opened an SPI, see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/AngelaRola. Quasar G t - c 11:00, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Kurykh (talk) 19:01, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Mastered Trax Latino[edit]

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Promotional article with no clear evidence of notability. Blackguard 18:42, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. North America1000 19:58, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

FreeRouter[edit]

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Fails WP:NSOFT - can find no coverage or indication it meets any other criteria. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 18:42, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete.  Sandstein  16:00, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Department of Linguistics and Scandinavian Studies[edit]

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Individual academic departments are very rarely notable, and there is no evidence that this one is. (normally, the standard is among the few best in the world, with multiple famous professors. ) DGG ( talk ) 18:33, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete.  Sandstein  16:01, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Anti Dogmatism[edit]

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Fails WP:NALBUM for lack of available reliable sources. Quasar G t - c 18:18, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per reasons listed. --Jennica / talk 21:15, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Winged Blades Godric 15:42, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Michael Strauss (industrialist)[edit]

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Fails WP:BASIC for lack of available reliable sources. Notability is not inherited. Quasar G t - c 18:03, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

the person has an entry in Hebrew Wikipedia, he is a well known industralis and valid person for an entry and the refferences and more details about him will be addedd asapSelten99 (talk) 18:28, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Kurykh (talk) 19:01, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sunny Dhiman[edit]

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Fails WP:BASIC for lack of available reliable sources. Quasar G t - c 18:00, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Kurykh (talk) 19:01, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Replacement Remixes[edit]

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I'd actually love to see a Wikipedia article about this topic, but there's no independent coverage about it beyond a Know Your Meme entry editorEهեইдအ😎 17:35, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete as per reasons above. ~ TheJoebro64 (talk) 19:46, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. North America1000 19:55, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Chellaul Corporation[edit]

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Fails WP:NCORP and WP:GNG for lack of available reliable sources (a news search on Google returns no results). Quasar G t - c 17:07, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. North America1000 00:26, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Bred 4 War[edit]

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Fails WP:BAND for lack of sufficient independent sources. - MrX 16:36, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy keep. The nominator has essentially withdrawn the nomination in a comment in the discussion. North America1000 00:13, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ma-Tsu Temple (San Francisco, California)[edit]

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A Google search returns many results but these are superficial mentions such as in tourism guides, or the temple's own website. I found one book, "Chinese Religions in Contemporary Societies" that has a chapter on the establishment of this temple. This falls short of multiple, substantial references though, so I am nominating on the grounds of notability. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 14:38, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for this HaeB (talk · contribs), I don't get to vote as it was my nomination, but given the additional solid reference you've added (thank you) I would happily withdraw the AfD. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 09:29, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Kurykh (talk) 19:01, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Mir Muhammad Soomro[edit]

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doesn't pass WP:GNG. Saqib (talk) 12:47, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. North America1000 19:52, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Soomran Jo Shujro[edit]

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A non-notable book about the Soomra dynasty and/or the Soomro, created by an editor who's created quite a few Soomro family-related articles. I can't find anything on this book -- and the references on the article are of no value. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 12:47, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) feminist 02:25, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Naseer Soomro[edit]

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doesn't pass WP:GNG. Saqib (talk) 12:46, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 03:13, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hakeem Muhammad Amin Soomro[edit]

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doesn't pass WP:GNG. cited sources are not reliable enough. Saqib (talk) 12:24, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Kurykh (talk) 19:01, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Callisto Nerayo[edit]

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Fails WP:BIO. Possible WP:HOAX. Neither a scientist nor nutritionist. Non notable. scope_creep (talk) 12:05, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete.  Sandstein  16:21, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Cynosure FC of Port Harcourt[edit]

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Non Notable. Fails WP:NFOOTBALL scope_creep (talk) 11:47, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to Marine debris. (non-admin closure) feminist 02:25, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Marine plastic pollution[edit]

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This is copied word-for-word from the cited source, a journal article. Although not a copyright violation (the journal is apparently Creative Commons), Wikipedia should not be a publisher (or republisher, in this case) of primary research reports. See Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not#Wikipedia_is_not_a_publisher_of_original_thought. Peacock (talk) 11:12, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Closing per agreement between filer (me) and the student's adviser that further work will be done. Nobody else has commented.. I hope there wasn't some formal requirement that somebody other than the filer close. Somebody had better tell me off if there was. Under the circumstances, I thought it reasonable to do it myself. Bishonen | talk 09:24, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Feminization (sociology)[edit]

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The article seems to have been created by copypasting from academic sources in excellent English, combined with short presumably self-written bits in very poor English. Please look at this version, from before I started to remove copyvios and incoherence today. I gave up in frustration because I couldn't access the other sources, but I bet they've been used in the same way. Perhaps somebody who has access to Jstor could check out this, this, and this, to see if the relevant article sections have been lifted from them, as seems likely? The subject may be notable, but surely this article had better be deleted per WP:TNT and a new one written, if anybody's up for it. Bishonen | talk 11:09, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Thank you very much, Shalor (Wiki Ed). You mean doing a revert to the version you suggest, rather than a revdel (revision deletion), I think? Good idea. I hope your student responds and gets on well with rewriting the article. It's not exactly only the copyvio/plagiarism (which needs to be rephrased in the student's own words) even though that is the most important thing, but there are also problems of coherence and grammar in the bits that aren't copyvio. Could you tell your student that as politely as possible, please — I have no tact. :-( I'm quite willing to revert the article as you suggest and withdraw this AfD, so the student doesn't have to work under the sword of Damocles. Would that be the best way of handling it, in your opinion? Bishonen | talk 23:48, 6 May 2017 (UTC).[reply]
  • I was thinking of a revdel to be on the safe side, but I have no problem with just reverting the content since that would be easier for the student. I'll also approach them about the clarity of the content and offer my help with this process. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 00:14, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think it's reasonable to let the student have access to their own (and others') old revisions, as material to work with (well, they can do that provided they know how to use the history to see old revisions and comments). OK, I'll close this AfD, without prejudice to starting another one at some future date, and revert the article to this version. Happy editing, all. Bishonen | talk 09:20, 7 May 2017 (UTC).[reply]
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The result was keep.  Sandstein  16:19, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Dilbagh Singh (singer)[edit]

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Fails WP:BIO and WP:MUSICBIO. Brand new singer, may make it, with WP:TOOSOON. But may not. scope_creep (talk) 10:58, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Kurykh (talk) 19:01, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

UNIMAS Student Representative Council[edit]

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Non-notable students' union. This article should be merged into Universiti Malaysia Sarawak. Alexander Iskandar (talk) 09:53, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Kurykh (talk) 19:01, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Claire Kittrell[edit]

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Non notable subject with a few references to unreliable youtube and twitter. Also refs to few other unreliable websites. Notability is not inherited. Article refers to comments made on a twitter account that may or may not be written by article subject. Ar best the twitter comment is self published, at the worst it is considered unreliable because it is not known for certain who posted the comment on unreliable twitter, whether it be the subject or another party. Article and subject fails WP:GNG and has not proven N notability. Article was tagged for notability, but another editor objected and quickly removed the tag citing some alphabet tag. I have heard that failing argument before, thus bringing to AFD to attempt to gain a consensus decision from any group of editors. Antonioatrylia (talk) 18:48, 22 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Kurykh (talk) 19:02, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Steven Scheu[edit]

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Does not meet GNG, NGRIDIRON or NCOLLATH John from Idegon (talk) 00:13, 22 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. (non-admin closure) feminist 02:26, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sweet potato salad[edit]

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Not that I can read the refs since my knowledge of Arabic is limited, but I see no claim of notability and I Wikipedia is not a recipe book TheLongTone (talk) 15:21, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi TheLongTone. In fact, this salad is very popular in the Arab world, especially in the Maghreb and in the Levant specifically in Lebanon, as you can see there are around 330,000 searches about sweet potato salad in Arabic, I know it is not notability as Fattoush, Tabbouleh and the traditional Arab salad but there are many types of Arab salads. Wikipedia is not a recipe book. Well, I know that the article contains the ingredients, but I will be developing it in the future as other users will contribute to its development.--Canbel (talk) 15:47, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Well, I don't know if it an Arab dish because it is also found in the sites in English, but it is not known what is its origin, even if it is a global dish, is still an Arab recipe. The Arabic Wikipedia lacks a lot of articles. Such the Matbucha available in eight languages but not available in Arabic. I suggest renaming it to Batata hulwa salad as to pronounce in Arabic.--Canbel (talk) 16:34, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately, even searching for that name, I just can't see enough significant, non-trivial coverage to merit an article, sorry. Delete per nom. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 17:30, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails WP:GNG as reliable sources are lacking. The sources cited are, as noted above, recipes and/or "how to" articles/videos. Searches turn up mentions of versions of this dish in what may well be reliable sources, but which are clearly not the Middle Eastern version. Geoff | Who, me? 19:44, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I have changed Arabic sources into English sources. A reliable source of Arabesque book.--Canbel (talk) 00:10, 22 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed the links to recipes.--Canbel (talk) 12:29, 22 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Kurykh (talk) 19:02, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ammad Azhar[edit]

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seems not a notable enough director to pass WP:FILMMAKER. directed only one film Whistle (2017 film). Saqib (talk) 05:31, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Cited sources are not independent and reliable enough to be cited. This director is not yet notable enough, its WP:TOOSOON. WP is not WP:CRYSTALBALL so when and if he direct more films, a bio will be created. --Saqib (talk) 08:04, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Kurykh (talk) 19:02, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Mark Rajevski[edit]

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fails WP:NHOCKEY and WP:GNG Joeykai (talk) 15:09, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete.  Sandstein  16:01, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Fatma Sultan( Daughter of Murad III)[edit]

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murad_III already mentioned in this... no separate article required India1277 (talk) 05:23, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) feminist 10:37, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Bob Parr[edit]

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  • So why but the page up for AfD then? Morvoren6969 did not create the page (as you say), so that user can't request Db-g7. Can I please suggest a speedy keep? Schwede66 09:32, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Keep' shouldn't even be nominated for AfD as no reason given. Meets all the appropriate criteria for notability. NealeFamily (talk) 10:15, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect to List of Malaysian films of 2003. (non-admin closure) feminist 10:35, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

MX3[edit]

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Fails WP:MOVIE and WP:GNG as failed to find credible sources. QianCheng虔诚 04:34, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to Music therapy. (non-admin closure) feminist 10:34, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sound healing[edit]

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no apparent evidence that this is a recognized mode of therapy. DGG ( talk ) 03:53, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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@Jytdog: It's not really a recognized form of therapy so a redirect seems moot. SW3 5DL (talk) 05:24, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. North America1000 19:47, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Will Raee[edit]

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Fails WP:FILMMAKER. Article has no RS. External links are only passing mentions. Insufficient in-depth independent coverage. MB 03:28, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Clear consensus for deletion. North America1000 01:04, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

List of references in Overwatch[edit]

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WP:TRIVIA - Wikipedia is not TV Tropes, and any references need to be well sourced by third-parties, otherwise this is all Original Research MASEM (t) 03:23, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I don’t understand why third-party sources are necessary. All that they do is repeat the facts listed in the Wikipedia article. A true source would be Blizzard themselves describing these references.
By the way, List of Pixar film references does not have a citation for every item on the list, so should that article not be deleted as well?
PapíDimmi (talk | contribs) 03:40, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The very basis of Wikipedia is writing articles according to what third party, reliable sources can verify. It's a core piece of how we write prose, and how we determine notability. Your question is like asking "Why do tricycles have to have 3 wheels?" - Because that's what they fundamentally are by definition. Same here. Also, your Pixar article Isn't particularly a good example either - it's tagged for clean up itself. Sergecross73 msg me 12:52, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Actual sources would be screenshots or videos, but that’d be copyright infringement, wouldn’t it? I don’t get why some obscure “news” website has to repeat what the Wikipedia article says for it to be considered valid.
I wouldn’t bothered if I hadn’t have spent hours on writing the article, linking to pages, and researching. I don’t get this OR policy.
Again, why can List of Pixar film references provide facts without references?
PapíDimmi (talk | contribs) 05:05, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Just because X said Y, and in a separate work Z said Y, does not mean X is referencing Z. It might be, it might not be. That's why we need third-party sources to make that judgement for us. I do know that we can source that Mcree was modeled after The Man with No Name from Blizzard themselves, but that's about all we can source to that extent. And again, WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS isn't a valid argument. I do think that the Pixar film article is weak, but also to its fairness there is a LOT of coverage of Pixar's self-references in third-party sources to make such an article work. It definitely does not exist for Overwatch. --MASEM (t) 05:16, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Blizzard will never verify any of this, but that doesn’t mean that the information is false. A link to PC Gamer saying that the claims are true doesn’t make much of a difference, does it?
PapíDimmi (talk | contribs) 05:18, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
With PC Gamer being a reliable source, yes it does as it takes out any original research associated with making that connection. --MASEM (t) 05:46, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
How does it do that? Please explain.
PapíDimmi (talk | contribs) 06:46, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Why is a YouTube video not a reliable source? PapíDimmi (talk | contribs) 22:35, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
If it's a video from a reliable source, like IGN or Eurogamer, it'd be okay. If it's just a random person who uploaded it, then it's going to fail WP:RS, WP:USERG, WP:SPS, etc. The bigger issue is probably that you're trying to source like a 50 point bulleted list with a single short YouTube video. That leaves about 98% of the article unsourced even if it was reliable. Also, no offense... but you seem have an awful lot of questions on the very basics of Wikipedia policy. It may be easier if you try to read up on these things yourself, rather than continuing to defiantly ask over and over again at this AFD. Sergecross73 msg me 22:49, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
What difference does who uploaded it make?
Anyway, I will read Wikipedia’s policies the day I want to spend a couple years reading several billion pages on the Internet.
PapíDimmi (talk | contribs) 22:50, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
If you were making any effort to understand what people are telling you, you wouldn't have follow up questions like that. If you're not going to make an effort, your articles are just going to keep getting deleted. It's up to you. But this approach sure isn't working well so far... Sergecross73 msg me 23:11, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I am making an effort by asking these questions. Answer them, then.
PapíDimmi (talk | contribs) 23:14, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia sources need to be written by reliable sources. Since you refuse to read up on what that means - it's stuff provided by people like professional journalists. Not just any ol' random person on the internet, which is a large percentage of YouTube videos. Sergecross73 msg me 23:28, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I do understand the “no original research” policy.

I have added multiple sources and will add more if I come across any. I’m not sure whether these sources are considered reliable, however. All they do is recite the facts provided in the Wikipedia article, which is what is expected, is it not?
PapíDimmi (talk | contribs) 23:41, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Neither SegmentNext or Twininfinite are considered reliable sources. They don't have an established history to judge their reliability. --MASEM (t) 00:20, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Then what makes a website a reliable source? All they do is recite facts, so I don’t see how one website reciting facts is more reliable than another website reciting the same facts.
PapíDimmi (talk | contribs) 00:21, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
WP:RS -"Articles should be based on reliable, third-party, published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy". For SegmentNext and Twininfinite, we don't have enough to give any idea about their reputation (and from what I've seen, they don't have much of one). We keep a list of video game-specific sources at WP:VG/S for what we've checked already. --MASEM (t) 01:20, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
What would make Twinfinite and SegmentNext reliable, exactly? They are just reciting the facts in the article.
PapíDimmi (talk | contribs) 01:22, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Most of these aren’t just “similar lines.” When McCree, a cowboy-style character, quotes Western movies, you know that it’s deliberate.
PapíDimmi (talk | contribs) 01:15, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
How do you "know it's deliberate", though? BigHaz - Schreit mich an 01:21, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I think it’s safe to assume that a Western hero quoting Western films verbatim is not a coincidence.
PapíDimmi (talk | contribs) 01:24, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Two problems right there. First is that if we were to delete every single other reference in this list beyond the character referring to Western movies, the list becomes two entries long (there's a third entry for this character, but that relates to a nu-metal song, so that's a different case), which is then somewhat debatable as to whether it needs to stay as a separate article. Secondly, "it's safe to assume" in a situation like this is completely against the idea of Original Research and Reliable Sources. Unless and until a reliable source says that something is the case, rather than it being "safe to assume" that it's the case, it can't be written into an article here. The recent brouhaha about the Duke of Edinburgh's retirement is a good example here - there were statements floating around saying it was "safe to assume" nobody had died, but until something official had said what was going on, nothing had been confirmed. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 01:30, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Responses like this make it clear that you absolutely do not understand the original research concept. Sergecross73 msg me 01:44, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I do, indeed. Am I not allowed to ask questions? I’ve already provided sources, but they’re, apparently, not reliable, for whatever reason.
PapíDimmi (talk | contribs) 03:52, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
If you have understood the concept original research, you wouldn't have written an article consisting almost entirely if it. (Honestly, it'd probably be more of an issue if you understood it, and then created an article like this. That would be knowingly breaking policy over and over and over again.) Sergecross73 msg me 04:08, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Why does it belong on the Overwatch Wikia wiki?
PapíDimmi (talk | contribs) 04:50, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Because we have a rule (WP:NOTTRIVIA) and some others (WP:GNG) and they don't. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 09:10, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
What does “snow delete” mean? PapíDimmi (talk | contribs) 22:46, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
WP:SNOW. Sergecross73 msg me 00:56, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Another useful link for User:PapiDimmi: WP:BLUDGEON. --Guy Macon (talk) 02:39, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I’m not contradicting every comment. PapíDimmi (talk | contribs) 02:41, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Only 75% of them, true. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 02:46, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Are you people deliberately finding reasons to make me look bad? Why is responding to the comments about the article that I created a bad thing?
PapíDimmi (talk | contribs) 14:35, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
No, you are doing a fine job of making yourself look bad without any help from anyone here. Are you deliberately trying to get yourself reported at WP:ANI and then blocked from editing Wikipedia? Because that is exactly what will happen if you keep bludgeoning this discussion. Please stop your disruptive behavior now. --Guy Macon (talk) 17:20, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
You said yourself that you haven't bothered to read the "5 million" policy & guideline pages, and your replies show the lack of understanding of policy & guideline, so it appears as if you are trying to force your stance while refusing to understand WP principles. There are a lot of policy and guideline pages, but we don't expect editors to know them all but they do need to be aware of the principle ones (namely, WP:NOT, WP:V, WP:NOR, WP:NPOV, and WP:BLP) and the shape of others (eg knowing where to look to find guidance) as part of the competence of being an editor. You're not showing that in your replies here. --MASEM (t) 15:12, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, this was pretty much what I was going to say. Its good to ask questions, but PapiDimmi, you keep asking the same ones over and over again, and you do it so defiantly, as if you have any grounds to challenge it on, all the while actively stating that you refuse to read up on policy. You only have yourself for the negativity you receive in response to such an approach. An aggressive approach without the policy knowledge to back it up will not work well on Wikipedia. You've got to chose one or the other - learn policy, or stop being so argumentative. Sergecross73 msg me 15:29, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
And moreover, at least in the first instance, your questions have been met with answers explaining the issues the article has and addressing the concerns you've raised. It can be galling to learn that something you've spent a while on isn't the kind of thing you were "meant" to have spent that time on, and speaking for myself I know I've been there years ago and not enjoyed the feeling either. Ultimately, you have to choose either to learn and move on, or move on without learning. There are outcomes at the end of both choices. "But whyyyyyyyyy??????" really does nobody any favours as a response to the answers you've received. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 23:42, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
All right, I partly agree with you. I do have an understanding of most of the policies mentioned, yet I ignored them, because I really want the page which I spent hours on creating to stay.

I understand that if it violates Wikipedia’s policies, it should, of course, be deleted. It initially broke the “no original research” policy, and seemingly others as well, but I did add several sources. I was told, however, that these sources are unverified, and I don’t understand why, which is why I was asking questions.
PapíDimmi (talk | contribs) 03:13, 9 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

To respond to the points you're making here (I'll italicise your comments and respond to each in turn): I do have an understanding of most of the policies mentioned, yet I ignored them. There's a problem right there. As Sergecross has pointed out, knowingly ignoring/flouting policy is worse than simply doing what you think should be done because you don't know there's a policy saying otherwise. This appears to be a recurring theme here, and it points to behaving in something other than good faith. If you think the rules are silly, you're welcome to argue against them (in another forum, certainly not here) and see if others agree (in this instance, I'd rate that very unlikely), but unless and until they are otherwise, they apply to this article as much as today's featured content. I really want the page which I spent hours on creating to stay. Understandable, but remember that you don't own the article you've written. I've suggested that it could be written somewhere else, and Piotrus has actually given a name of a somewhere else it could be written - as well as why, but you knew that already. Given that you know at least now what the rules are, and may well have known at the time that you spent hours creating the article, you can at least see why it doesn't meet the standards which will allow it to stay, can't you? I was told, however, that these sources are unverified, and I don’t understand why. And you've been told precisely why. For want of a better term, there's a heirarchy of sources, particularly in a day and age where practically anyone can create a webpage or YouTube video saying that XYZ is true. Per the applicable policy, to which you've been referred plenty of times, the sources you've provided aren't at the level they need to be in order to be reliable. In the event that there are better-quality sources, the article could be kept or re-created, but at present it looks by your own admission that there aren't, which again means the article needs to be deleted. Again, I get that this can feel like a slap in the face, and I can see that you've had similar difficulties in other places here on Wikipedia, which isn't a fun experience for anyone to have. Behaving in a manner like this when things go wrong, though, really isn't a way to deal with it. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 04:49, 9 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Al Chalk[edit]

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Fails WP:NACTOR and WP:MUSICBIO. Article has no independent RS. MB 03:07, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to Xploration Station. (non-admin closure) feminist 10:31, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Animal Science (TV show)[edit]

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Article has not been updated since September 2012. It also states the show is airing on Qubo, but there are no sources cited to prove this claim. DBZFan30 (talk) 02:23, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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