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vte This is a collection of discussions on the deletion of articles related to Poetry. It is one of many deletion lists coordinated by WikiProject Deletion sorting. Anyone can help maintain the list on this page.
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- Kumbirai Thierry Nhamo (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NJOURNALIST. Current sources consist of homepages of news websites, and articles written by the subject. Doesn't seem to have any independent or significant coverage. ARandomName123 (talk)Ping me! 21:02, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- C. D. Collins (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Pure self-promotion. I find 2 hyper-local "articles" about her and nothing else. Zero coverage beyond that in reliable secondary sources. Fred Zepelin (talk) 03:36, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People and Artists. Fred Zepelin (talk) 03:36, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Authors, Bands and musicians, Women, Poetry, Kentucky, and Massachusetts. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 04:11, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: Not sure that the Wiki article is "self-promotion", as the original creator says "Added basic information on artist CD Collins that can be found on her website", but it certainly lacks any third-party coverage except of the fact that a documentary was forthcoming in 2019. They may be just a newbie editor thinking they've found a notable topic to write about, rather than having any WP:COI. PamD 11:57, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- It's possible, but given the lack of secondary coverage and the style of the writing, I think it's likely the editor was someone who knows the subject in some way. Fred Zepelin (talk) 15:02, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete: no evidence of notability. PamD 11:57, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete: Article would need a lot of work before it could be considered notable. 🐱FatCat96🐱 Chat with Cat 03:56, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- David Bates (poet) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Delete: fails notability, GNG, SIGCOV, POET. Nirva20 (talk) 04:11, 29 March 2024 (UTC) Nirva20 (talk) 04:11, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete: as mentioned above, does not meet WP:POET. His only somewhat famous work is "Speak Gently", but I couldn't find good sources even for that. Bendegúz Ács (talk) 11:51, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep "Speak Gently" is fairly widely reprinted, and his poetry has attracted a bit of critical discussion (though not an overwhelming amount) [1] [2] [3]. More importantly, we get significant coverage of Bates here from the reputable Martin Gardner, which includes mention of obituaries in the Philadelphia Public Ledger and Philadelphia Inquirer, and a bit of coverage here. There are also some brief contemporary reviews of The Eolian, ie [4] and [5] and [6]. I think there's enough here to establish notability, especially for someone from the 19th century. Eddie891 Talk Work 15:01, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Those look like some good sources indeed, should they be added to the article as references? Bendegúz Ács (talk) 11:06, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- '''Keep''' Based on your listing of these handful of citations, I think there is a chance that the article subject could meet notability requirements. But, those citations need to be added to the article or else it simply appears too think to make it.WmLawson (talk) 01:13, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - based on the sources presented above, Bates appears to meet WP:NBASIC, and the article should be kept rather than deleted per WP:NEXIST. Hatman31 (talk) 23:39, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 08:37, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak keep: The fact that it was parodied in a rather famous book indicates it was at least somewhat well-known at the time. The new sources given are ok, it's not a lot, but just barely at GNG. Died over 100 yrs ago, not likely to have much coverage unless a scholar takes an interest and does a deep dive. Oaktree b (talk) 13:37, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]