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User:Opp2

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Suspected sockpuppeteer

Opp2 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)

Suspected sockpuppets

and all listed ODN and Plala IP addresses in Case 1, Case 2, Case 3

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--Appletrees (talk) 12:15, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Evidence

Opp2 admitted that he uses Plala, and CITIE.[[1]] However, he also said he uses IIJ and NIFTY per his comment.[2]. I believe Opp2 use more than these listed ISP including OCN network because behavioral patterns of various anons resemble to this new advent anons. Within a short period time, the OCN anon seems to switch IP address easily, not only a different IP address, but also previously used ones. From 2008-02-05T01:16 to 2008-02-05T05:56 (3 hours 30 minutes), his ip addresses are changed to 4 different ip addresses. I think he uses some kind of IP generator or switcher. The ips are moving back and forth. [3][4][5][6][7][8][9][10][11]

They all are interested in Japan-Korean related articles, but some of them show almost all of field as their favorite field, others look like a single minded account. That is just a tactic to prevent them from being caught.

Timeline of the user's activities from 2005 to now
User	Interest	WP:RFCU / WP:SSP	Sock puppet	Registered	Blocked	Status
Kamosuke (talk · contribs)	ancient history, cuisine, sport, culture, territorial disputes	RFCU:Kamosuke	HaradaSanosuke	2005-11-05T13:41:15	2006-08-01T10:38:28	Infinitely blocked
Opp (talk · contribs)	Only Liancourt Rocks	RFCU:Bright888 RFCU:Opp2	A sock of Bright888, and Opp2	2006-05-28T13:11:12	2006-06-07T14:37:39	Infinitely blocked
KoreanShoriSenyou (talk · contribs)	Virginia Tech massacre, Korean independent movement, Japanese Imperialism, Zainich Korean, North Korea, Anti-Japanese sentiment, Japanese war crimes, Japanese history textbooks, Tsushima Island	RFCU:KoreanShoriSenyou RFCU:Amazonfire SSP:Azukimonaka	Azukimonaka, Orchis29	2006-12-02T04:06:39	2008-02-02T17:26:10	Infinitely blocked
Azukimonaka (talk · contribs)	Virginia Tech massacre, cuisine, manga, manhwa, Japanese traditional and pop culture, Eugenics in Showa Japan, Timeline of Japan-Korea relations, Sumo, Prostitution in South Korea, Comfort women, Disputes between China-Korea, Korean independent movement, Korean pop cultures, Ashahi Shinbun, Tokugawa shogunate	RFCU:KoreanShoriSenyou RFCU:Amazonfire SSP:Azukimonaka RFCU:DDRG	Sock of KoreanShoriSenyou	2007-03-10T17:47:34	2008-02-02T17:26:56	Infinitely blocked
Orchis29 (talk · contribs)	Manga, So Far from the Bamboo Grove, traditional culture and history of Japan and Korea, Anti-Japanese sentiments	RFCU:KoreanShoriSenyou RFCU:Amazonfire SSP:Azukimonaka	Sock of KoreanShoriSenyou	2007-12-28T12:13:43	2008-02-02T17:27:25	Infinitely blocked
Bright888 (talk · contribs)		RFCU:Bright888	Schola64, Polaris36, Foreastwest, Himawarichan, Cleclecircle, Opp	2005-11-03T20:20:36	1 week block after confirmed at 2006-06-04T12:21:16	Stale: last edit at 2006-06-19T03:41:43
ShinjukuXYZ (talk · contribs)		RFCU:NekoNekoTeacher	Sock of NekoNekoTeacher	2006-08-24T	Not infinitely blocked even thought the two abusive accounts were confirmed as socks on 3 December 2006(Isn't it a mistake?)	Stale:last edit at 2007-03-19T11:10:57
NekoNekoTeacher (talk · contribs)		RFCU:NekoNekoTeacher	Sock of ShinjukuXYZ	2006-10-14T00:18:26	Same reason above	Stale: last edit at 2007-01-02T00:07:51
Necmate (talk · contribs)	Anti-Japanese sentiment, Mike Honda, Comfort women, Yakiniku, History of Korea and Japan, Joji Obara		2007-03-06T09:07:57		Stale: last edit at 2007-08-29T08:57:48
DDRG (talk · contribs)	Joji Obara, Asahi Shimbun,	RFCU:DDRG SSP:Vml132f	Suspected as a sock of Azukimonaka, Amazonjoke	2007-03-16T08:45:11	2 blocks for edit warring	Stale: Last edit at 2007-07-31T07:53:51
LuckyandLucky (talk · contribs)	Virginia Tech massacre,		2007-03-27T05:51:20		Stale: last edit at 2007-04-17T09:25:32
Opp2 (talk · contribs)	Only Liancourt rocks, Anti-Japanese sentiment, Yakiniku, History of Korea, Japan.Tofu	RFCU:Bright888 RFCU:Opp2	Sock of Bright888, and Opp	2006-07-06T03:08:19		Active, but occasionally taking a long break up to for 3 months.

Opp2 also has the same habit in writing English as "was being written". Please see the collapsed boxes in the Wikipedia:Suspected_sock_puppets/Azukimonaka file. He is the only one using the error except Orchis29. Azukimonaka, KoreanShoriSenyou and Kamosuke did. KoreanShoriSenyou who has strong anti-Korean sentiment never appeared at Dokdo article, even at the time for vote for the article name change. Azukimonaka only appeared at that time once at the article. I assume they(?) were afraid of being discovered their true identity through Checkuser files.

being written
Talk:Dokdo/Archive_8 User_talk:Opp2 (edit \| [[Talk:User_talk:Opp2\|talk]] \| history \| protect \| delete \| links \| watch \| logs \| views) It is being written that it 占有 in an original source. You deceive by unrelated material. And You should study "appeal to ignorance (probatio diabolica)". I give priority to facts more than respect. --Opp2 06:49, 31 December 2006 (UTC) It is being writtenJapanese claims come from seventeenth century records, as well as a terra nullius incorporation in 1905." in a present article. When and in what did Japan say that? The format of the answer is as follows. Extra information is unnecessary. I verify it based on these three information. --Opp2 06:40, 31 December 2006 (UTC) Where is it being written Dokdo? It is being written Ullengdo(鬱陵島) & Usan-state(于山国) & Iso-take(イソタケ) in this map. --Opp2 05:11, 3 January 2007 (UTC) Talk:Liancourt_Rocks/Archive_12 (edit \| [[Talk:Talk:Liancourt_Rocks/Archive_12\|talk]] \| history \| protect \| delete \| links \| watch \| logs \| views) However, these important information is not being written in a present article. I am very wondered. --Opp2 17:16, 31 May 2007 (UTC) Are not two islands described why? It is being written in the old Japanese maps.[14][15] --Opp2 12:35, 2 June 2007 (UTC) Present article is being written as a fact that Ahn Yong-bok went to Edo and received Kanpaku's(shogunate's) note. However, it cannot be confirmed that he met the shogunate and even he went to Edo(Tokyo) where shogunate was living in the record of Japan. Please teach if there is a reason not being described for such a valuable record. I will add to the article if there are no special question. Opp2 17:16, 31 May 2007 (UTC) A present article conceals a lot of inconvenient information for Korea like this. --Opp2 00:48, 1 June 2007 (UTC) By the way, Japan is prohibiting landing on Senkaku. A provocative act like South Korea government is not done. I really wonder about their insistences. --Opp2 23:09, 31 May 2007 (UTC) Talk:Liancourt_Rocks/Archive_13 (edit \| [[Talk:Talk:Liancourt_Rocks/Archive_13\|talk]] \| history \| protect \| delete \| links \| watch \| logs \| views) It is necessary to explain the Algonort island for NPOV if you want to post. [9][10] And, this map is a Japanese map in 1875. The era name of Japan(????) and name of Japanese mapmeker(??) and Japanese character(katakana) is being written in explanatory notes in this map. --Opp2 01:12, 23 June 2007 (UTC) SCAPIN is being written. However, draft5 is not found. Cannot you distinguish SCAPIN and the peace treaty?--Opp2 14:46, 21 August 2007 (UTC) Talk:Liancourt_Rocks/Archive_14 (edit \| [[Talk:Talk:Liancourt_Rocks/Archive_14\|talk]] \| history \| protect \| delete \| links \| watch \| logs \| views) That is an old theory by a obtuse Korean scholar before Rusk Documents and above sources was opened, and it is being written in the latter half part though citation is needed. Please read the article[45] Opp2 14:56, 10 September 2007 (UTC) Talk:Liancourt_Rocks/Archive_16 (edit \| [[Talk:Talk:Liancourt_Rocks/Archive_16\|talk]] \| history \| protect \| delete \| links \| watch \| logs \| views) This Map was sent by Kotani to Edo.[45] Can you see Manoshima? In a Japanese map at that time, Matsushima(Liancourt Rocks) is being written in Takeshima's(Ulleungdo) southeast. --Opp2 (talk) 16:17, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Comments

"Opp2 admitted that he uses Plala, and CITIE.[12]"

I retract my previous comment about Opp2's current home provider[13] that Opp2 is now most probably using plala. Sorry for not updating my knowledge.

"My provider is IIJ and NIFTY. You?"[14]

I can mention the relationship between CTIE and IIJ. I think Opp2 commented that Opp2 was using IIJ since CTIE is hosted by IIJ.[15] Therefore, the comment was reasonable.

My another comment is about Opp2's tendency to use "is being written." Appletrees, do you have any other examples that is the same as the other suspected socks? "Is being written" (not "was being..." etc.) seems really Opp2 specific and can be useful to relate Opp2 to any other socks, while the editors whom User:Appletrees mentioned here such as Azukimonaka, KoreanShoriSenyou, and Orchis29 are using similar but not the same expression "is being written."

Anyway, I think Opp2 does not mind much to be checked again and again while Opp2 seems expressing anxiety to be designated as a sockpuppet by chance because of the popularity of the ISP.--Jjok (talk) 20:50, 9 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A related case , Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Celldea has been closed. The result basically showed no relation to Opp2.--Jjok (talk) 21:17, 9 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Commnet: Jjok, you're the one who said that I might have been dealing with just one person (not several people , so your suggestion really encouraged me to file this) at hour talk page.[16] You did also "teach" me how carefully I should differentiate one from various ISPs. Do you need more evidences regarding the relation between the above mentioned users and Opp2? Fine, I only included partial of what I have because I wanted to make this file compact. You also missed to point out on @nifty, one of which Opp2 asserted to use. I have some that ip addresses which seems related to dog meat. The RFCU file you added to here is no relation with his case. That is all about Watermint and meatpuppetry of yours. I found something weird on the result.--Appletrees (talk) 21:33, 9 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Another related CU request has been filed at Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/2008FromKawasaki. It looks like K-J content disputes and User:Appletrees wants to know how many pro-Japanese and Japanese ultraright editors are acting, and ban them all because they disgrace Korean images with reliable sources.--Jjok (talk) 20:52, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Jjok, well, regardless of my several efforts to inform you about chinilpa, you are insisting on calling yourself as such, from now I may regard you as a Korean senior born before 1930s. As for the the images, you're the one who takes the responsibility for the edit warring. You may also want to see this Talk:Sea of Japan#2channel meatpuppets from 朝鮮人のWikipedia（ｳｨｷﾍﾟﾃﾞｨｱ）捏造に対抗せよ 21. This explains why I have been chased by so many disruptive editors and why suddenly participants are increased for the poll at Sea of Japan article and began to change rankings related to Korea. What a wonderful party with meatpuppetry but isn't it nothing new. --Appletrees (talk) 15:17, 15 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Conclusions

I believe the accusations are overly broad and the evidence is not well-organized. For the future, concentrate on a smaller number of accounts where you can demonstrate a conclusive linkage with a concise presentation of evidence. Jehochman ^Talk 21:09, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]