[Closed] Sweden wins UEFA European Under-21

[Posted] 2015 Indonesian military plane crash

 The Rambling Man (talk) 13:35, 30 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Support on article expansion/update - Incident is clearly important, but would like to see the article expanded beyond 2 sentences (which I'm sure will come in time). Once more details are established, I think it would be good for the blurb to separate out those riding on the craft, vs civilian deaths on the ground. --MASEM (t) 14:18, 30 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Conditional support pending some expansion with more definitive data. The news I've read now mention 91 bodies. Indonesian air force commander said that although 141 body bags had been sent to morgues, some might contain only body parts, so the actual death count could be somewhat lower. Brandmeister^talk 06:56, 1 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  The BBC are reporting officials saying "141 bodies have been recovered". The Rambling Man (talk) 09:57, 1 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Marking ready The article has been expanded to surpass the three prose paragraph minimum, is well written and refernced, and the incident clearly notable. μηδείς (talk) 15:28, 1 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Support: Notable event, article already expanded. HaEr48 (talk) 20:10, 1 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Posted Stephen 01:01, 2 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

[Closed] Kobanî → June 2015 Kobanî attack

[Closed] Donald Trump NBC

[Posted] RD: Josef Masopust

Nominator's comments: Accomplished Czech footballer and coach who led his team to the 1962 World Cup final. Generally considered to have been the best Czech football player of all time. Voted European Footballer of the Year in 1962. Kudzu1 (talk) 15:03, 29 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• support - top player. RD is appropriate.--BabbaQ (talk) 21:54, 29 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose on quality – inadequate presentation of career, and a massive unsourced section. It's a shame that due to recentism, players of this calibre go unnoticed to editors, while ten-a-penny disposable and forgettable current players get pristine articles. Ho hum '''tAD''' (talk) 06:07, 30 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Now support: Improved to an acceptable standard. Achievements speak for themselves, I never doubted notability '''tAD''' (talk) 13:10, 30 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Support: voted top player in Europe. I have also tried to improve the article re: the concerns mentioned above. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 09:30, 30 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Support meets notability, and article seems acceptable. Zwerg Nase (talk) 10:37, 30 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose certainly notable, but the article is full of hagiography so needs work. E.g., phrases like "was an indispensable player", "The only flaw in his capabilities came from...", " a workhorse of his team, who toiled away in obscurity crafting and building fresh attacks for the front line", "he made up for this deficit with massive reserves of stamina and pace, allowing him to be a tireless engine", "Many of his Dukla teammates also played for the national team, which gave them a greater understanding than many of their opponents." etc etc need real work. Also, basics like formatting "their national olympic football team" correctly, avoiding raw URLs, using reliable sources (is "national-football-teams.com" reliable? And "eu-football.info"? They may be, but I'd like to see evidence of that). The Rambling Man (talk) 19:34, 30 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment: It appears the hagiography has been pared down and sound references are now in place. Is this ready to post? -Kudzu1 (talk) 15:33, 1 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  What about the sourcing concerns? The Rambling Man (talk) 20:24, 1 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• I have removed the two dubious sources you mentioned. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 09:13, 3 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Support - The man who helped the Czechoslovakian team win two FIFA Cups. Marking as ready. --George Ho (talk) 17:29, 3 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment: He played at two World Cups, losing one final, but never won it. If the article suggested he won two World Cups, it needs copyediting, so it can be clear to any reader '''tAD''' (talk) 19:00, 4 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Looks plenty clear to me. I'm sure George Ho just misspoke. -Kudzu1 (talk) 19:01, 4 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

My bad. At least he performed well in the Cups. George Ho (talk) 19:07, 4 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Posted The Rambling Man (talk) 20:48, 4 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

[Posted] Hisham Barakat assassinated

Nominator's comments: Egypt's Prosecutor General Hisham Barakat was killed today in Cairo in a car bomb. Al Jazeera The death of such a high rank official is a rare event, so, I propose adding Hisham Barakat to the RD section. Egypt is currently in a state of instability after the 2013 Egyptian coup d'état. I admit that the article still needs to be expanded but I will leave this task to others who are more knowledgeable about the incident than me. Meno25 (talk) 14:37, 29 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Other sources: BBC News The Guardian Reuters --Meno25 (talk) 15:00, 29 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose: Article is a stub. If Barakat is a very internationally notable figure -- and we have passed over cabinet officials, governors, generals, etc., from many countries for ITN purposes -- then the article doesn't convey it. -Kudzu1 (talk) 15:14, 29 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Support on article expansion: There is probably a lot more that can be written on him; the BBC article I just added to sources explains he had been involved in the conviction of many Islamic militants following the deposition of the former President, so there's a reason he might have been targetted, that all can fill out the article. Also blurb should mention that there were ~dozen some injured by the blast, though obviously the focus on Barakat's death being key. I note that I'm speaking to this less as being a RD and more as news event that happened to target a notable individual. --15:25, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
  • To follow on PrimeHunter's point Support blurb focusing on the attack/bombing of a national official, and less about the person as a person. --MASEM (t) 15:42, 29 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose RD but support full blurb pending article improvement. It's the assasination of the office holder and not the death of the individual that is the notable story. RD only says somebody died and should only be used for more notable figures. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:32, 29 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Support blurb pending article expansion; oppose RD (the incident itself is more notable than the victim). Political assassinations of high-ranking officials are quite rare in Egypt. Fitzcarmalan (talk) 15:54, 29 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Support blurb conditional on article improvement. Clearly a significant event. -Ad Orientem (talk) 19:18, 29 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Support blurb upon article improvement because the death was sudden and unexpected; clearly a notable event. 331dot (talk) 20:14, 29 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Support blurb per 331dot.--BabbaQ (talk) 21:35, 29 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Support blurb. This would be as if Eric Holder got assassinated. This is the guy who prosecuted Morsi and all those other Muslim Brotherhood guys and got them sentenced to death. Abductive (reasoning) 04:19, 30 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  I don't see that in the article, it would certainly help improve the nomination if that detail was added. The Rambling Man (talk) 06:59, 30 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  Except that Holder is the former AG, while this guy was the current officeholder, right? Has any group claimed responsibility? ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 14:11, 30 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  As of 12 hr ago, not yet, but Egyptian officials are certain it is one of the groups aligned with the insurgency going on there. And yes, they did confirm this was a car bomb triggered remotely as Barakat's car drove by, so clearly signs of an assassination attempt. --MASEM (t) 14:22, 30 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Unmarking ready: Article is still a stub, even if the "stub" tag has been removed. It needs substantial expansion before it's ready to post, per the apparent consensus here. -Kudzu1 (talk) 14:56, 1 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Marked ready - There's am adequate 2-paragraph update now. Fitzcarmalan (talk) 18:56, 2 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Posted. Spencer^T♦C 15:08, 3 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

[Closed] 2015 Clinton Correctional Facility escape

[Posted to ongoing] Greek debt crisis

Nominator's comments: Seeing this appear in a lot of news stories; there might be other events in the week related to the Greek debt but this seems to be significant given the drastic action being taken. MASEM (t) 17:19, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment - "Criticism of Germany's role" section is tagged as undue and non-neutral. Also, the article is tagged as too long and overly detailed. Same for its introduction. Shall there be improvements? George Ho (talk) 17:45, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

On the other hand, oppose blurb, but support ongoing. Modern Greeks haven't been Ancient Greeks for... ten or twenty centuries? Also, the EU is responsible for this. --George Ho (talk) 20:17, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose - a very significant news story, but the quality of the article is subpar. Varianceinvain (talk) 18:07, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Support conditional on major improvements in the article, which as noted above, is not ready to be linked on the main page. That said, this is a very big story and if the article can be gotten up to scratch it should be posted. Supporting Ongoing for now per TRM's comment below. If and when Greece actually exits the EU that would be sufficiently important to merit an independent blurb on ITN. -Ad Orientem (talk) 18:26, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose this is "ongoing" and a perfect example of something that needs to be covered there. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:58, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  It's worth noting that the Greek government-debt crisis article is plastered with a maintenance tag that would render it ineligible for ITN in any situation. Please resolve the major problems with the article before sending it to the main page. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:18, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  Support ongoing. Zwerg Nase (talk) 19:55, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Support - I'll support either an ongoing or a blurb, but that big article tag has to be dealt with, obviously. Big international news and could get even bigger. Jusdafax 19:59, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Support blurb on notability, notable as failure of a part of the Eurozone, but no need to go "ongoing" until there's an update after the blurb ages off the queue. μηδείς (talk) 20:51, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment The article currently has three top orange-tag issues, appears to be tagged recently. Brandmeister^talk 21:23, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Wait: This will surely be ITN material when either a last-minute deal is reached or, as appears far likelier, Greece defaults and/or is forced out of the eurozone. -Kudzu1 (talk) 21:40, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Wait - Nowhere near over yet. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 21:56, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment - The problem with this is if Greece defaults, the item should be on the defaults which is much more significant and definitely ITN worthy. If a last minute deal is reached however, then it's only worth of ongoing which the bank closure and capital control are part of. -- KTC (talk) 00:47, 29 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• We can always update the blurb based on new developments, but the bank holiday is already in effect. People will be coming here for this now, and if the article is in good shape we should have a link now. μηδείς (talk) 01:57, 29 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose on article quality. The lead is ten paragraphs long, for one. Abductive (reasoning) 06:46, 29 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Wait Comment – Agree with Kudzu1, KTC. The damoclean sword hasn't fallen yet. Sca (talk) 13:05, 29 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Considering every Greek is limited to 60 bucks a day these days, you might say the sword has already fallen quite significantly for a lot of people. Might be a reason to make this ongoing. Zwerg Nase (talk) 13:08, 29 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Worse, $55.80US. That's 20,381 per year. Oh wait, it's 60 euros, not 50. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 15:00, 29 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The big story will be Grexit: yes or no. If and when such occurs, a separate, succinct article will be needed. (The current target article is a maelstrom of 30,000 words = about 140 pages of typescript. No one is going to read such a bloated, semi-polemical exposition.) Sca (talk) 13:46, 29 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

So what speaks against putting this on ongoing and make a blurb once the Grexit comes? (except for maybe too many references in the article... has one ever seen anything like that before??). Zwerg Nase (talk) 14:42, 29 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Strongly support ongoing on topic, oppose this specific article. I think ongoing would clearly be best for the next week at least, and probably more. This is a big deal, coming to a head, and blurbs will have a hard time keeping up. Greek government-debt crisis seems a little too sprawling an article to link to, and is likely to have near-constant edit warring and orange POV tags about who's to blame. Perhaps link to Greek debt crisis timeline#2015 instead, which has the benefits of:
  • Easily and quickly updated
  • Timeline format seems to me to match an "ongoing" section better
  • Will be very clear what new thing happened in the last day or two
  • Won't have to keep changing what section to link to
  • Timeline links to other appropriate articles that go more in depth
  • This page will be much less likely to have POV tags and unstable edit warring

--Floquenbeam (talk) 15:28, 29 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Support – OK, Zwerg, support ongoing only. (Wait above changed to comment.) Sca (talk) 17:40, 29 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Post this already. Nergaal (talk) 17:47, 30 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Support ongoing, as there will likely continue to be many updates to this important event in the near future. Mamyles (talk) 19:10, 30 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Support ongoing This is a major developing story and a blurb would probably have to be updated a few times. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:17, 30 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Has to be "ongoing" - As noted above, this is changing daily. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 19:27, 30 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Support ongoing, if possible also including a link to next Sunday's Greek bailout referendum, 2015 as well as to one or both the previously mentioned articles (the timeline article and the debt crisis article), with wording something like "Ongoing:..., Greek debt crisis and July 5 Greek bailout referendum" (unless that's in violation of some long-established ITN/Ongoing convention about referendums of which I'm unaware). Tlhslobus (talk) 21:11, 30 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Shouldn't this be a blurb? 108 minutes ago Greece became the first developed country to default on its international obligations. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 23:48, 30 June 2015 (UTC) [7] Remember how huge this was during the heart of the Great Recession? I guess everyone succeeded in dragging this out long enough for the world economy to recover first. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 23:56, 30 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Because none of these were developed? Dragons flight (talk) 23:59, 30 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Don't blame me, blame one of the three headlines that popped up when I Googled Greece default: [8]. One also said first IMF default and maybe they mean something nitpicky like inflating it away doesn't count or only agreements with another sovereign govt. or supernational NGO counts or defaulting only their citizens doesn't count or communists don't count (second world) or if the Industrial Revolution hadn't finished yet in that country it wouldn't count or debt restructuring and anything other than the other side saying "fuck you, not a compromise more" doesn't count or something like that? I'm to lazy to read that article. Really any sovereign nation could just print money to pay back any bond so if true it might just be cause developed countries giving up the ability to print their currency is new. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 01:17, 1 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

First EU country to default on the IMF, not the first country to do so. -- KTC (talk) 10:54, 1 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

CNN says the first developed country period to default on the IMF. I remember the Economist acting like Grexit (or default too?) was unspeakable and loony fringe and by now it seems like Grexit might be the lesser evil for everyone involved. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 12:55, 1 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Admin comment. Greek government-debt crisis seems like the best candidate for ongoing because of its extensive coverage, but it is currently ineligible for posting due to multiple NPOV section tags. Other suggestions: Greek debt crisis timeline#2015 is probably the best second choice but not a great choice due to the brevity of its updates, while Greek bailout referendum, 2015 doesn't really seem broad enough to speak to the whole issue (though might make an good ITN blurb once the result is known). Any chance people may resolve those NPOV tags in the near future? Otherwise, is there additional input on the choice of target article for ongoing? Dragons flight (talk) 00:16, 1 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Support ongoing – With link to Greek debt crisis timeline#2015 – at least it's something. Sca (talk) 12:58, 1 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

PS: AP says banks reopened – hence Altblurb 2 above, in case of need. Sca (talk) 13:05, 1 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• It's pretty evident by now that this isn't blurb-worthy at this time, and that an "ongoing" post is required. Please, an uninvolved admin, assess this for inclusion at Ongoing. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:25, 1 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Posted to ongoing It's obvious we need something as this is near the top of most news headlines. We have a bloated NPOV article or a lightweight timeline, so I'm going with the latter in the hopes that more is added. This could be replaced by a full blurb over the weekend as the referendum results become known. Stephen 00:52, 2 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

2014–15 Formula E season

Article: 2014–15 Formula E season (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In motorsport, Nelson Piquet Jr. (pictured) wins the inaugural Formula E championship. (Post)
News source(s): ITV
Credits:

• Nominated by Mjroots (talk · give credit)

 Mjroots (talk) 16:13, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose I don't really think this is significant enough. A radio presenter on TalkSport had never even heard of it, and thought it might have been a typo. Beyond that, the article has not been updated to reflect the end of the season (tenses etc) nor does it really contain much prose beyond the background stuff. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:17, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Article now updated. Mjroots (talk) 17:32, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose. Limited coverage of a new event, which likely has not yet attained significant notability. 331dot (talk) 16:36, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Support If we post the Tour de Suisse, then this is just as significant. But I might be a little biased, since I enjoy this a lot (enough to produce this GA nominated article, who everyone is welcomed to review btw). Zwerg Nase (talk) 19:54, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  I couldn't stand the sound of the engines. I liked the idea. Is there any real notability, the Suisse tour has history... The Rambling Man (talk) 20:19, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  Notable as the first all-electric world car racing series. Mjroots (talk) 21:58, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  I would also consider that more notable than the 79th edition of a B-class bike race... Zwerg Nase (talk) 22:08, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Support The participants are all blue links, and what I saw were pretty well developed articles. I also noted quite a number of nations' flags, and I doubt they ran an entire season of races with nobody watching. Only thing this doesn't have going for it is history, but that could just as easily be read as that this is a significant first. - OldManNeptune ⚓ 23:28, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• The article itself could probably do with expanding. At the moment, it seems to be just tables of result with not much else. Otherwise, I would support posting this. FE is a significant and by indication successful development in the world of motor racing, recognised by the FIA, a world championship of 11 races in 9 different countries. -- KTC (talk) 00:42, 29 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak support - I tried watching auto racing, but I'm not amused by it. At least this race is not US-centric as NASCAR. And it's full of racers from all eligible nations, like the US and the UK. I'm pleased to see marginally-notable Tour de Suisse to be on front page. I will be pleased to have this race posted. Hopefully, no remaining issues with the article. George Ho (talk) 01:02, 29 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose the electric cars were identical models, not competing designs. This was more of a publicity stunt than any sort of mature competitive sport. μηδείς (talk) 01:54, 29 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• @Medeis: there are many motorsport formulae where all drivers have the same car. It allows driver skill over a season to shine through, rather than a more skilled driver having a weaker car. Mjroots (talk) 04:50, 29 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Understood, but one can't have it both ways. The event is portrayed as notable because it features a new class of racing vehicle; but then there's no actual competition between vehicles, since they are identical. It's like a fashion show where all the models wear identical outfits. μηδείς (talk) 16:15, 29 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I don't care whether this is notable enough to be posted but NASCAR hardly has any competition between manufacturers anymore either. If a golf league started with identical nanotube superclubs then it would depend on how notable the league is. It's not surprising that manufacturers don't want to spend money on an arms race when they didn't even known how popular it'll be yet. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 17:22, 29 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak oppose the media coverages of this compared to the other ITN/R series is pretty weak, plus not helped that its a new series and I can't be certain if it will like all other heavily hyped up motorsport series (A1GP, Superleague, GP Masters) in the next 5 years, join them in the new formula graveyard (unlike the ITN motorsport series who have a 50 plus year history) but then I wouldn't really mind it being on ITN since we included the Tour de Suisse, a "B-grade" cycling event and The Boat Race, which is a school boat race consisting of names who we really couldn't really care about. Donnie Park (talk) 12:27, 29 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Conditional support I'd be tempted to support this as an inaugural racing season, but I'd like to see some sort of season summary covering the eleven rounds/standings first (not necessarily as long, but something along the lines of 2014 Formula One season#Season report). At the moment, it's mainly tables and a single sentence update stating the winner. Fuebaey (talk) 02:42, 1 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

[Posted] RD: Chris Squire

Nominator's comments: Widely regarded as one of the most influential bass players in rock music, if not the most influential in progressive rock. Floydian ^τ _¢ 15:30, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Support pending article improvements - Was on way to add this as RD. However, article does need some sourcing improvements, and while I don't doubt the statements made, I'd like to see a better source to affirm this, likely will come in the next few hours. --MASEM (t) 15:33, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rolling Stone has now reported it, so concerns on the reliability of this news are satisfied. --MASEM (t) 17:11, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Support pending article improvements nothing to add to Masem. Zwerg Nase (talk) 16:06, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Support per the above, article has large unreferenced sections which need improvement. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:21, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak support on notability; founding member of a well-known band, although never a frontman or a driving creative force. Article has been improved; could probably still use a bit of work, but my eyes are starting to glaze over combing through ancient album reviews and magazine interviews trying to nail down whether he's properly credited on whatever side work he did. -Kudzu1 (talk) 17:06, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak oppose - Notable independently, and article in good shape. Not on top of field, however. Also, no notable songs done in solo or without the band, Yes. We can post a name of a last surviving member or ex-member, but this guy ain't last. George Ho (talk) 19:10, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• He is, however, the only consistent member throughout the bands history. - Floydian ^τ _¢ 20:24, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Support - Notable member of a notable band. Article decent. International news. Jusdafax 19:44, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Support on notability per above. Yes's place alone and his place in it merit his posting. μηδείς (talk) 20:48, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Support - on the basis of writing this alone. A very underrated solo album "IMHO". Martinevans123 (talk) 21:23, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Posted to RD. --Bongwarrior (talk) 22:37, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

[Posted] SpaceX CRS-7

Article: SpaceX CRS-7 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ SpaceX CRS-7 fails after the Falcon 9 exploded after launch while carrying the Dragon to the International Space Station (Post)
News source(s): [11][12]
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Winner 42 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: This appears to be the standards as a "Launch failure where sufficient details are available to update the article" Winner 42 Talk to me! 15:55, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak oppose I marked this as ITNR because it is a launch fail, right now it's weak on details though. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:23, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  Already better, but the use of Twitter is dubious, neutral for now. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:31, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Removing twitter and replaced it with a CNN source. The press conference is ongoing as I type this, so more reports will be out in an hour or so. Winner 42 Talk to me! 17:04, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Support per ITNR, update is sufficient, good work. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:44, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak oppose - The most exciting astronomical stories are moon landings, planet landings, and universe. As I hate to admit, rocket or spaceship explosions happen occasionally and have been posted. This story ain't rare or unusual. Also, re-reading this article, I don't see what's so special about this mission. The story of Russian rocket explosion was posted probably because... Westerners fear(?) Russians maybe. I don't see the point of posting the failed resupply mission other than to move out older stories. George Ho (talk) 19:33, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  It's on ITNR so unless you believe the update to be inadequate for that purpose, I suggest you nominate failed launches for removal from the recurring stories list. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:44, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  Tony Awards is on ITNR, but this year's Tonys wasn't posted ITN. Even some others from ITNR haven't been posted, I believe. George Ho (talk) 19:46, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  Indeed, mainly based on their failure to meet the update requirements. Does this item fail to meet the update requirements? The Rambling Man (talk) 19:49, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Support - INTR, international news, a significant failure that is a good ITN choice. Jusdafax 19:52, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment Spencer, Black Kite, etc, we have a good article ready to go here, can we post it please? The Rambling Man (talk) 20:55, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Spencer is on vacation until August. George Ho (talk) 22:32, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Posted - I also made some modifications to the blurb. --Bongwarrior (talk) 22:53, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I added the image for preview, just in case. George Ho (talk) 23:21, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

[Posted] Formosa Fun Coast explosion

Nominator's comments: Not as tragic as ISIS attacks recently, but this should prompt readers into either carefully using or not using hazardous dusts. George Ho (talk) 05:39, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Support It is an important news, which focused by the international media.Shwangtianyuan (talk) 06:17, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment. What kind of dust was it? The article needs improving. Abductive (reasoning) 07:08, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Corn starch according to BBC[13].My other car is a cadr (talk) 08:41, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

AP calls it "a colored theatrical powder thrown from the stage." Sca (talk) 13:05, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It's used across the world in events such as The Color Run. But these are usually outdoors and thus pose no risk of explosion. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:41, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This particular event was outdoor as well[14].My other car is a cadr (talk) 09:48, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I had thought it was in an enclosed area, in front of a stage. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:52, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose on quality only. "Caucasian" is not a nationality. My other car is a cadr (talk) 08:41, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You just corrected that? Martinevans123 (talk) 09:38, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes.My other car is a cadr (talk) 09:44, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Further improvements might make the article postable? Or are you saying "it's so bad, it's not worth the effort"? Martinevans123 (talk) 09:52, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Support huge number of casualties, article is just about there. The Rambling Man (talk) 11:28, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Support. Large casualty event which seems unusual. 331dot (talk) 11:30, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

How much do you want to bet that some impulsive eternally happy extrovert lit a cigarette or something? Sometimes insight into when extroversion near you is about to be rewarded can save your life. All it takes is one reveler who doesn't read Wikipedia enough to have seen dust explosion (that's easy) and doesn't have the common sense to not think "I'm sure it's non-flammable". But seriously, ability to realize when the extroverts, "well-adjusted", or low IQ around you can force their gene pool corrections on non-brethren is a Darwinian advantage. Extroverteder than average phenotypes aren't rarer than average for nothin'. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 14:34, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure that the huge dancing crowd was over populated with shy retiring introverts, but you never know. And I'd guess that there was no attempt to make safety announcements, or to check for potential ignition points, before the powder was released. But all rather pointless speculation at this stage. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:21, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You are right that we don't really know what caused this yet. And I guessed that the organizers were that stupid too. If Taiwan Chinese are anything like Mainlanders then their smoking rate is crazy — PRC smoking rates make America's look microscopic. (a Youtube commenter says the crowd was smoking). Even if something else ignited it before a smoker did then that's still an incredibly stupid thing to organize. I'm not sure if you thought I was just name calling without reason (your first sentence) but I wrote extroverts cause they're disproportionately likely to cause these things

• Support Significant incident even if there's no deaths (yet, 500 ppl in hospital with ~180 in intensive care, so could still have some). Article appears ready given the current state of details expected for an incident like this. --MASEM (t) 15:14, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Black Kite, Stephen, calling admins all round, please determine whether this is ready for main page inclusion. Thanks. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:26, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• I'd say support. It's unusual, has a large number affected and the people in charge are now "suspects" (whether that has exactly the same connotations in English and Taiwanese Chinese I'm not sure). There could easily be many deaths. Some victims have no skin (cause of they had to run so far (maybe off a burning stage) to get out of the fire) "Kaohsiung city government is ready to deliver cadaver skins to hospitals in northern Taiwan" "The demand for skin transplants is expected to surge" That doesn't sound like something that all 194 criticality injured will survive for long. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 19:09, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Support. A tragic but very unusual accident. And possibly one for which nobody can ever reasonably be given the full "blame". Martinevans123 (talk)

• Support stage effect failures causing a casualty count this high are noteworthy. -- Aronzak (talk) 22:14, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• If it's anything like The Color Run, it's not just "a stage effect", it's the main reason that people were there. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:18, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Support – Can we please DO something with this? It's not BIG news, but it is unusual and bizarre. Sca (talk) 22:28, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Posted. I've declined to link to the theme park because it's a micro-stub with virtually no information. --Bongwarrior (talk) 23:08, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Post-posting comment – Can we make it "a theatrical-dust explosion" to avoid the puzzling impression that it was just ordinary old dust? Sca (talk) 00:32, 29 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

[Closed] Tupou VI coronation

No consensus. Stephen 01:49, 1 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Article: Tupou VI (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Tonga begins a traditional 11 day taumafa kava coronation ceremony of King Tupou VI. (Post)
News source(s): (ABC news)
Credits:

• Nominated by Jenda H. (talk · give credit)

 Jenda H. (talk) 16:39, 27 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak Support conditional on significant improvements in sourcing and inline citations. A royal succession should be ITN worthy but the article needs work. -Ad Orientem (talk) 17:38, 27 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose now. The actual coronation is July 4. We shouldn't keep it in ITN until then and we shouldn't post it twice. Nominate it again later. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:40, 27 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment. On the ITNR page it states that coronations are not typically posted; this should have been posted when the King took the throne. 331dot (talk) 02:10, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose per above logic. He has been king for three years '''tAD''' (talk) 14:02, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose However, the enthronement was never posted, so I think it would be OK to bend the rules in this case. In all honesty, I think the rules as they are now are probably bad anyway. Having one ITN post dedicated to the death of a royal, and then one more months or years later dedicated to the coronation of his/her successor seems OK to me - otherwise you have to cram both into a single post. And when Charles is crowned, I think we'll have to post that coronation no matter what... Smurrayinchester 14:47, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You post that you oppose this but your explanation suggests that you support it. Which is it? And why would Charles' coronation be posted when we state that such events are not typically posted(they are posted at the time of the change)? 331dot (talk) 14:49, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

To clarify, I oppose posting the beginning of the 11-day celebration, but support posting the actual coronation when that happens. Smurrayinchester 07:37, 29 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Because, barring a world war or some other mass catastrophe, in all probability Charles' coronation will be the most covered news event globally in whatever year it happens. Guidelines are not carved in stone and do not trump WP:COMMONSENSE on here. If we are reporting major sports events it would seem that royal coronations should be covered. They are certainly far more rare. To the extent that existing guidelines do not reflect this, I would respectfully argue they are wrong. Until that is remedied we can file this under WP:IAR. -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:14, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose the article says he has been king for three years. Therefore this coronation is simply de facto. I understand that many other royals are coronated way later than their original appointment, but this one is inexplicable, or at the very least, I can't see the article linked explaining the situation adequately. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:56, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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[Posted] SCOTUS rules in favor of same-sex marriages

Nominator's comments: While only affecting the US, this has been in the news for a heck of a long time MASEM (t) 14:04, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Support: Huge deal. Largest country to date to fully legalize same-sex marriage. -Kudzu1 (talk) 14:09, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Support This is a no brainer. Let's get it up as soon as the article is ready. -Ad Orientem (talk) 14:11, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Support pending article update, which will be pretty fast. Jusdafax 14:19, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• We've already posted the sub-national notables. No need for every step on lgbt movement.120.62.27.54 (talk) 14:26, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Support Big and unusually messy (as compared to most European nations and individual US states, which simply passed laws to legalise same-sex marriage, this involved four states being dragged kicking and screaming through the highest court). Irish referendum appeared on the main page, this should too. Smurrayinchester 14:29, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Strong support. This will change loads of things. DS (talk) 14:36, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Support landmark case, albeit a depressing one owing to all the kicking and screaming...--81.141.186.175 (talk) 14:37, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Support I don't normally come here, but I believe this is important enough to go on the list for me to support this being shown prominently. - Penwhale | ^{dance in the air and follow his steps} 14:37, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Question is this it? The last step (notwithstanding any appeals, which I am confident are forthcoming). But this is the final word, and today (or tomorrow), in a state where same sex marriage was not legal yesterday, two men, or two women, can go and get married? If so than I would support this. --kelapstick^(bainuu) 14:41, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

(EC) Yes and no. There will no appeals - the Supreme Court is the supreme court, and there's no-one to appeal to. The states may find an imaginative way to rewrite their laws to ban same-sex marriage without breaking the Constitution (a gay rights equivalent of "separate but equal"), but no-one has suggested one so far. Only Ohio, Kentucky, Tennessee, and Michigan (the states involved in the case) lose their bans overnight, but the bans in all other states will be struck down by the courts in those states. Smurrayinchester 14:53, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Legally true, but what practical effect would it have in said places? Gonna be a long time before that happens...120.62.27.54 (talk) 14:56, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

That would be crystal balling. How long the process of legalization will take is anyone's guess, but with the Supreme Court case law it becomes just a matter of time. Smurrayinchester 14:58, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment I'm supporting this blurb as it is pretty huge news with likely global implications. That said, it is now very clear which way the pendulum is swinging on the whole LGBT issue, not just in the United States, and I am going to be much more reluctant to support similar blurbs in the future. After this decision future pro-gay moves elsewhere are likely to fall into the "well that's nice" column. Maybe an exception if/when gay marriage is legalized in Saudi Arabia or Russia. Otherwise, it's time to stop giving this subject near automatic ITN attention. -Ad Orientem (talk) 14:43, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The US has the largest market economy - this is the most important country to report on. -- Aronzak (talk) 15:16, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Support, though we need to be sure the main article is reasonably updated. that should happen momentarily. obviously very important news, a sea change in US and world culture and law.(mercurywoodrose)76.254.36.96 (talk) 14:53, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Support - Major landmark decision. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 14:57, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Admin Comment - Per ITN rules, only one bold link should be used. The ruling Obergefell v. Hodges in my opinion is the one more "in the news," as it prompted this blurb, but I wanted to ensure that's consensus before putting it up. If you have any questions, please contact me at my talk page. Ian Manka 15:07, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  I've added another alternate blurb wording to the nomination. If you have any questions, please contact me at my talk page. Ian Manka 15:12, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  Just want to note that ITN does allow multiple bolded links. Thus the (s) in "...emboldened link to the updated article(s)." Mamyles (talk) 18:56, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Support when updated, per the nominator. --BorgQueen (talk) 15:08, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Support - Truly the largest and most sweeping SCOTUS decision made in quite a while.--WaltCip (talk) 15:09, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Support like it or not this has major implications across the US and outside. -- Aronzak (talk) 15:15, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Support - unequivocally a landmark decision of the Supreme Court. Mz7 (talk) 15:18, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Posted. --BorgQueen (talk) 15:21, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Post-posting support Major decision with major ramifications. – Muboshgu (talk) 15:22, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

* Post-posting note: It made French, Dutch, Danish, Swedish, Czech, Polish and even Russian ITNs, too. Sca (talk) 21:18, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

[Closed] Saint-Quentin-Fallavier attack

[Posted] Kuwait bombing

Nominator's comments: A bombing in Kuwait is even more rare than a shooting in the usa or europe. 120.62.27.54 (talk) 12:50, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Support unusual dangerous development --Jenda H. (talk) 14:09, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Support - Article is kinda small, but this is the story deserving attention from Main Page readers. George Ho (talk) 16:41, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Now it's big. George Ho (talk) 22:17, 27 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak conditional support: Article needs work. Kuwait has been an island of relative stability in the region for some time, which makes this attack unusual, but considering the neighborhood it's in, it isn't terribly surprising, as tragic as it is. There is also a fairly low death toll. Even still, this is the most significant terror attack in Kuwait in recent years, so I'd lean toward posting...if the article weren't in need of significant improvements before it's front-page ready. If someone can fix the grammatical issues and expand the page with more details, I'm fine with posting. -Kudzu1 (talk) 16:44, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The neighborhood you're talking about is a safe neighborhood, like most of Kuwait's. Old buildings don't mean unsafe neighborhood. The death toll is 27, I don't think that's low at all, considering the last time something as tragic as this happened in Kuwait was actually the Second Gulf War in 1990. --Kuwaity26 (talk) 21:38, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I was referring to its geopolitical neighborhood, i.e. Iraq, Saudi Arabia, etc. -Kudzu1 (talk) 03:40, 27 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment death toll is now up to 25. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:43, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Support - The article is big enough to be featured now. I tried to use English references whenever possible. Since ISIS has claimed the responsibility of Sousse attack too, I'd suggest combining them both in one entry.--Kuwaity26 (talk) 05:01, 27 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Expanded now.120.62.20.8 (talk) 09:17, 27 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment - The article is ready and the poll have gained enough support I believe, can it be posted now?--Kuwaity26 (talk) 06:02, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Support combined blurb per Kuwaity26. 117.216.145.40 (talk) 07:05, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Posted on its own for now. The Rambling Man (talk) 11:12, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

[Posted] Tunisia attack

Nominator's comments: The wider region maybe viewed as chronically unstable, but specifically to the country not so much. Yes there was a museum attack a few months ago but that's all the more reason for shit going down there and neither is as regular as Syria/Libya.
Likely foreign deaths too 120.62.27.54 (talk) 12:50, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Support when updated, highly notable event. —Jonny Nixon - (Talk) 12:53, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Can someone move the article to "attacks" as there the article cites 2 of them.120.62.27.54 (talk) 12:59, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Support pending article improvement. Event is internationally notable in a country that appears is starting to destabilize. Jusdafax 13:49, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Suggestion Merge the three items (this and the two above) for a common news item on 2015 Ramadan attacks, as I read, these are all connected to this. --MASEM (t) 14:01, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Is there really a connection? Are there any sources that support this statement, that it is connected? --Jenda H. (talk) 14:18, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• NYtimes doesn't say there is 100% a connection but the simultaneous nature, following a few days after a message broadcast to cause havoc during Ramadan, make it highly likely these were. --MASEM (t) 14:21, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

There's no connection and that article is up for deletion.120.62.27.54 (talk) 14:29, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I support the article deletion in AfD - sections of it seemed like promoting quotes of terrorist leaders (which seem to be a very early conclusion to draw). We can merge the three blurbs, but I propose keeping them as separate articles. -- Aronzak (talk) 15:19, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This works too for me. --MASEM (t) 15:23, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose unless somebody has a better source than RT. -Kudzu1 (talk) 14:10, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  (Personal attack removed)

  Do you have a better source than RT? I try to steer clear of Russian propaganda. -Kudzu1 (talk) 14:39, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Support - Bloodshed with significant economic aftermath. --Jenda H. (talk) 14:18, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Support – Unusual target. Suggested sources: AP, BBC, Guardian. (Combined story: NYT.) Sca (talk) 14:25, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment - Article is currently too small, aside from big Background section. Tragic it was, I was going to vote either side until I see the article not well expanded. --George Ho (talk) 16:33, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Weak support - Well improved. Though still small, a lot of work has been done. Time for front-page attention please. George Ho (talk) 17:46, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak support once the article spends more time talking about the event than the background to it. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:47, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Reluctant oppose. This is clearly notable but as the Rambling Man suggests it spends far too much time discussing "background" (or "context") of completely unsourced relevance (i.e. it is not enough to show what is said is true, you need to show it is connected to the attack). A potential ITN item can't use "this is what we know about something else" as a crutch for poor coverage of the nominal subject. Saving the background section the best developed component is the response section. I have slightly more time for that but it is still a bit newsy as opposed to factual. A lack of hard facts is not an excuse to fudge normal editorial standards, even a solid consensus on this page does not grant the authority to ignore the consensus of the whole community in favour of expediency. 3142 (talk)

This is now ready. Its got updates to the attack, victims, aftermath and reactions.120.62.20.8 (talk) 09:15, 27 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Can we post this now that the BBC have shown the first victim as being a young, white female? Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 14:17, 27 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Posted. Black Kite (talk) 20:50, 27 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

[Posted] RD: Yevgeny Primakov

Nominator's comments: Former Prime Minister of Russia and noted diplomat. Brandmeister^talk 10:40, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• SUpport RD He was very important figure in Russian politics after the dissolution of the Soviet Union.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 11:31, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Support Noteable and sufficient article quality. Zwerg Nase (talk) 11:44, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• I believe heads of state are de-facto ITNR, heads of government not a surety unless more notable that the mere title.120.62.27.54 (talk) 12:22, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Support - INTR and article in decent shape. Jusdafax 13:51, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Supportpending article improvements. RD is clear, but the article is not ready to go. There's several unsourced statements on a BLP, and I see unsourced lines like "However, Saddam's execution was anything but rapid. He was captured in December 2003, allowed to speak at length many times during a long, open trial, and not executed until December 2006." which smells of soapboxing. There also appear to be a few CNs though whether they were added after --MASEM (t) 14:03, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Full support with the fixes Kudzu1 and others did (mentioned below). --MASEM (t) 15:48, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Support: Article has been updated with references, dubious information for which no reliable source could be found has been removed, and we should be in good shape to post this. -Kudzu1 (talk) 15:43, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Support Clearly meets the guidelines. -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:28, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Support individual's notability for RD, weak oppose article, large section of "awards", many unreferenced. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:50, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I have commented out the "awards" pending some better sources. I find lists like that to be a general waste of space anyway. If they're actually notable awards, they should be mentioned in the article body, in prose. -Kudzu1 (talk) 18:50, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Posted The Rambling Man (talk) 18:52, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

[Closed] Bristol Palin announces 2nd pregnancy

[Posted] ISIS attacks Kobanî

Article: Kobanî (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The ISIL forces attack the Syrian city of Kobanî, killing more than 140 civilians. (Post)
News source(s): Daily Star Lebanon BBC AFP via Yahoo
Credits:

• Nominated by George Ho (talk · give credit)
• Updated by TrailBlazer65 (talk · give credit), Multi-gesture (talk · give credit) and 147.156.33.108 (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Part of Syrian Civil War. If one-casualty foiled bombing ain't a big story, this story should be. George Ho (talk) 16:28, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Support Although not listed at Islamic_State_of_Iraq_and_the_Levant#June_2015 (or at least I'm not seeing it now?), it seems notable enough for a standalone blurb. Spencer^T♦C 00:50, 27 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Support notable event due tu hight number of causalities also strategic and symbolical importance of the town. --Jenda H. (talk) 13:58, 27 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak support it looks like we might use an Ongoing to reflect the sudden upsurge in ISIL activity, but for the moment this is okay, article has a rudimentary but adequate update. The Rambling Man (talk) 11:31, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Support ongoing This should be back in Ongoing. Or rather, it should have never been pulled from ongoing. Zwerg Nase (talk) 12:33, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Support Kobanî is a good target as a short article, Siege of Kobanî is long, and would need work to fix up sections of sporadic news coverage. I'd thought of proposing an altblurb mentioning that ISIL is trying to recapture the city, bet it's packing too many details into a sentence. -- Aronzak (talk) 12:57, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Ready for blurb pointing at Kobanî, ongoing can continue to be discussed here or at a new nomination as required. The Rambling Man (talk) 13:15, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Black Kite, Stephen, calling admins all round, please determine whether this is ready for main page inclusion. Thanks. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:27, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Posted Stephen 22:54, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

[Posted] 'Grandfather' of turtles discovered

 Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:27, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• I like the fact that this is encyclopedic science - easily recognisable critter (turtles) loved by kids. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:29, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak Support (with article improvements) but suggest DYK backup While it is science news, backed by a peer-reviewed paper in science, this feels like it would have much better fit with DKY as a new article. Regardless, the article needs sourcing improvements for front page inclusion if only just to spread out the existing refers a bit more. --MASEM (t) 01:48, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose - Too old, I believe. I suggest nominating it for DYK. I can't see the word "June" in this article. George Ho (talk) 03:26, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • The Nature article (which the news site is report) was published online on June 24. That might mean this could be mis-categorized by date, but it is definitely not too old. --MASEM (t) 03:27, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    • The source doesn't have "June" in it either. Without confirming date of discovery, I still don't see a reason to switch my vote. George Ho (talk) 03:35, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
      • I'm seeing "25 June 2015" right under the title on the provided source. --MASEM (t) 06:03, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
        • Striking my vote. I don't know why scientists waited so long to announce the discovery after finding these fossils. --George Ho (talk) 06:10, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Support Reasonably significant scientific discovery. Regarding age - unless I'm misunderstanding what's being said, if we judged science articles based on the time of actual first discovery vs time of publication in mainstream press, we'd never post anything science. If you have dated articles showing this was actually ITN 2 years ago, by all means bring that out, otherwise that sounds purely speculative. - OldManNeptune ⚓ 03:51, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

According to Sci-News, the fossils of this species have been collected since 2006. I guess the scientists announced the species this year. --George Ho (talk) 04:12, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

They may have been collecting the fossils, but for scientific discoveries, we put weight on the publication of a peer-reviewed paper that (reasonably) affirms their findings, and that was just published a few days ago. --MASEM (t) 06:03, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Support Interestingly, it looks like one of the original authors has put his illustrations up on Commons - someone who knows the OTRS system should get in touch and verify the uploads so we can use this picture. Smurrayinchester 09:35, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Support This is rather significant, apparently it confirms the diapsid origin of turtles, placing them firmly with the Sauria rather than a separate stem-group of early amniotes. Close to being the "Archaeopteryx" of the turtles. μηδείς (talk) 22:36, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Support Definitely a discovery of some significance - I agree with Medeis, it does seem to be a similar discovery to Archaeopteryx. Sourcing looks good, page looks very concise. Challenger l (talk) 02:49, 27 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Posted. Black Kite (talk) 20:46, 27 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

[Closed] King v. Burwell

[Closed] RD: Patrick Macnee

• Support, but I may have a COI in this matter. Count Iblis (talk) 21:02, 27 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I've seen the way you can handle an umbrella, Count. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:24, 27 June 2015 (UTC) [reply]

[Closed] RD: Nirmala Joshi

[Closed] 2015 South Sudan cholera outbreak

[Closed] RD: Dick Van Patten

[Closed] Pitcairn Islands allows same-sex marriage

[Posted RD] RD or Blurb: James Horner

[Posted] 2015 Pakistan heat wave

• Wait (I do know I saw this pass by on a newsfeed I watch). Like the previous India heat wave story, let's make sure this is a significant event; 140 ppl in a country as large as Pakistan is not a significant number but it gets to 1000 or more, then we should be talking inclusion. It may take a day or two for that to be determined. --MASEM (t) 14:10, 22 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Wait per Masem. Severe weather with an attendant loss of life is pretty much going on all the time some where in the world. We need to have a high bar for these kinds of stories or ITN risks becoming a ticker service for the Weather Channel. -Ad Orientem (talk) 15:19, 22 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Updating - I think it's a significant event and am updating it. The figure has already reached 260+. Faizan (talk) 15:21, 22 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

350 dead now, amended the blurb. Faizan (talk) 18:44, 22 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Article updated, will keep a watch on the upcoming news and improvements. Faizan (talk) 15:50, 22 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Support we waited far too long on the Indian heatwave which went on to kill thousands, this has killed hundreds already, it's a natural disaster. As long as the article is updated properly, it should be posted. Proportions are irrevelant, frequency is irrelevant (or else why would we continually post gun crimes in the United States?) The Rambling Man (talk) 15:42, 22 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Support It's notable enough, and very sad. However, I think a bit of an expansion to the article would help. Mattsnow81 (Talk) 18:01, 22 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Support - It is a significant event which has the potential of turning into a bigger problem with a possibility of getting international attention. Why wait till that happen? Moreover, the coverage it got makes it a significant issue. —TripWire ^talk 18:52, 22 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Support - Article is small, but heat wave in an overpopulated sovereign state is very serious. Regardless of death toll, the country should be prepared for the hot summer, which has started. Pinging Masem & Ad Orientem. --George Ho (talk) 01:11, 23 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Posted Stephen 03:22, 23 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Post-posting comment - Shall we update death toll? It is currently 572. --George Ho (talk) 10:50, 23 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  WP:ERRORS is the place to report this sort of thing. The Rambling Man (talk) 11:27, 23 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

[Closed] 2015 Kabul Parliament attack