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The result was delete. Daniel (talk) 22:42, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Electronic Somali Sports Federation[edit]

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Nowhere near significant coverage to meet N:ORG. Creator will not accept draft space, so we're here. Star Mississippi 23:24, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn. While they arguably may not satisfy WP:NORG (in terms of WP:AUD), User:Jweiss11 has provided sources that show enough notability to meet WP:GNG; I said I'd withdraw the nomination for WP:BLAR if that was provided, and it has been. Since nobody else has commented anything other than a "Keep" rationale, I am withdrawing this. (non-admin closure) Aoidh (talk) 02:15, 8 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Orlando Guardians[edit]

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Per WP:BLAR, the article is being brought here since it should be redirected to XFL (2020)#Teams. The article was copy-pasted from a draft to bypass the AfC process, but it is not ready for mainspace because the article's subject fails WP:GNG and WP:NORG (WP:NTEAM directs us to WP:GNG; there is no presumed notability for the team simply having played games). Source assessment tables have been provided at Talk:Orlando Guardians#Notability concern; of the 11 sources in the article and the 20 provided on the talk page, only 1 constitutes significant coverage in an independent third-party source, the rest is trivial or non-independent routine coverage. Notability must be demonstrated, and the sources in the article show plenty of notability for the XFL as a whole, but none for this team specifically. A WP:BEFORE search turned up nothing that would demonstrate notability. ESPN for example only has trivial coverage and press releases. There's some routine local coverage but per WP:AUD is not sufficient. It may be an issue of WP:TOOSOON but it's certainly not ready for a standalone article at this time. Aoidh (talk) 22:37, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy keep and quite frankly not even worth discussing, as the original poster has made several blatant false claims about the sources. J. Myrle Fuller (talk) 22:49, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Can you give an example? You've written a significant amount of the article so I can see why you'd want to keep it (discounting a blocked sockpuppet you are its primary author), but you can't say "several blatant false claims" without at least an example. - Aoidh (talk) 22:49, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The two sources just added here and here are yet more examples of the trivial sources that can be found, but they are about former players and only make passing mentions of the team; per WP:NTEAM coverage of a (former) player doesn't contribute to notability of the team. - Aoidh (talk) 23:02, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
OK. The most glaring is the Middletown Press article, which discusses the 2020 Guardians' season in depth, far beyond what would be considered routine. I have also added a second source discussing the New York Guardians' quarterback situation from well outside the NYC metro area, a newspaper in Harrisburg. That is two reliable, independent, non-routine sources, which meets the GNG threshold. Several of the other sources cited are from independent newspapers, going beyond what I (and probably most Wikipedia editors) would consider "routine." "Routine" coverage is birth announcements, obituaries, individual entries on a scoreboard—items far more trivial than the coverage that the Orlando Sentinel and New York Post articles have provided. J. Myrle Fuller (talk) 23:03, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'm assuming you're not referring to this interview with and about the coach since interviews aren't independent, so would you mind linking what article you're referring to? As I said above the quarterback article is about a player and makes only a passing mention of the team, that's not significant coverage. I'm interested in what Middletown Press article you're referring to, but this is in no way significant coverage of the (at the time) New York Guardians. - Aoidh (talk) 23:12, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
And there it is. That's the blatant falsehood I'm talking about. Your standard for establishing something beyond routine/trivial is beyond what could realistically be achieved for any entity. J. Myrle Fuller (talk) 23:21, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
There what is? Is this your significant coverage? Information about some players and a passing mention that one had a touchdown to give the Guardians a 14-6 lead over the Los Angeles Wildcats entering halftime is significant coverage of the team? That is in no way significant coverage and I was worried I shouldn't have nominated this for deletion but if even the article's authors can't come up with better than this, it's very clearly not notable. - Aoidh (talk) 23:26, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
What notability guideline says that The team's already played a season of professional football in the XFL (2020) is something that makes it notable? Throwing another huge list at the wall to see what sticks only highlights the lack of notability of the subject. This is about a game and has only trivial information about the team. Rather than breaking down why each of those is insufficient (yet again) I'll ask again, what are the WP:THREE best sources? I certainly hope that isn't one of them. We don't need more "etc etc" and quantity we need quality in the sources. XFL teams are notable per what? - Aoidh (talk) 23:08, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"XFL teams are notable" – per what? – per having "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:12, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Okay then, what are the WP:THREE sources for that? Where is this WP:SIGCOV? Out of the now 40+ sources that have been thrown together there's 1 that meets that definition. I'm only asking for two sources to meet the bare minimum of what is required of Wikipedia articles, I don't think that's unreasonable. Other than this, what are the two best sources for this article? I will happily speedy close this discussion if the bare minimum can be shown here, that's all I'm asking for. There's no doubt that there's a lot of WP:TRIVIAL sources, but quantity of sources is not an indicator of notability. - Aoidh (talk) 23:18, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
You're engaging in pooh-poohing. Watch it. J. Myrle Fuller (talk) 23:24, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Accusing me of "dismissing an argument as being unworthy of serious consideration" is not only inaccurate since I very clearly gone to great lengths to examine and consider the points made, but that accusation is also serious projecting. I'm asking for sources, not for comments like that. Let's focus on the content. - Aoidh (talk) 23:28, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
That's not what I said, I said quotes in the article aren't independent, not that it invalidates the entire source as non-independent. But when the only relevant part of the source is quotes from the coach of the team, there's no independent coverage within that quote; it's from the team itself. Given that the list of sources is made up of things like this I have to ask, which sources exactly are providing the significant coverage? I have no problem withdrawing this nomination but when asked for examples, there's nothing but vague assertions of notability and lists of trivial mentions. If this nom is so "silly" why is this presented as significant coverage? That is silly. If it's so clearly notable it should be a simple thing to show where the coverage is rather than trying to bury it in a mountain of trivial mentions. - Aoidh (talk) 00:58, 8 January 2023 (UTC)s[reply]
Aoidh, the Guardians are mentioned outside of the Gilbride's quotes in The Middletown Press article. But even if they weren't, for the purposes of establishing notability, if a reliable source chooses to interview Kevin Gilbride about the the Guardians, and then publishes Gilbride's quotes about the Guardians, that demonstrates that the notability of the subject, even if Gilbride's comments contain falsehoods. You're wasting everyone's time arguing against this rolling snowball. Jweiss11 (talk) 01:11, 8 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I was hoping with such "clear" notability someone could provide significant coverage, but unfortunately that has not materialized. I will not be withdrawing this AfD because the sources purported to show notability do nothing of the sort. Interviews like that do not contribute to notability. The issue isn't "falsehoods" it's independence from the subject. The mentions of the team in this source outside of the quotes are trivial, it's a passing mention in the beginning of a game they played in, and a passing mention that "players were finishing their after-practice meetings" something so basic and routine you can't do anything with. As for the snowball, a couple of the article's creators asserting notability isn't a snowball, especially when the keep arguments are inconsistent with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Notability must be shown, and throwing everything one can Google at the wall to see what sticks does not show notability. I don't think it's unreasonable to ask for WP:THREE but there's not even two. It wasn't my intention to respond to every comment but misrepresenting what I said needed to be addressed. I'm still happy to withdraw this nomination if the very basic standard of WP:GNG can be demonstrated, but what's been discussed so far falls short of even that, and stuffing as many links as one can into a discussion does not change that. The links do show notability for the XFL, and this is a reasonable target to redirect this page to until notability can be established at some point, but this article isn't there yet. Again, I'm more than happy to withdraw this if the bare minimum can be shown, but a lone interview isn't it. - Aoidh (talk) 01:31, 8 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
How about these sources: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/116002894/the-orlando-sentinel/ and https://www.newspapers.com/clip/116002927/the-courier-news/ https://www.newspapers.com/clip/116003192/the-journal-news/? Jweiss11 (talk) 01:46, 8 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I promise I nominated this in good faith because I was specifically asked to bring this to AfD for discussion, and that I'm more than happy to be proven wrong. ALso, thank you very much for looking for those sources. Let me look over them after I attend to my kids for a minute. - Aoidh (talk) 01:50, 8 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Jweiss11: thanks. I wish it didn't take the fourth editor in a deletion discussion to find sources like that (I'm including myself, I looked) but I'm true to my word; I asked for the bare minimum to meet WP:GNG and that surpasses what I asked for. Closing now. - Aoidh (talk) 02:10, 8 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 03:15, 12 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Permak[edit]

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Cites do not show it is notable Chidgk1 (talk) 20:59, 31 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Lord Roem ~ (talk) 17:04, 15 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Eleven City Diner[edit]

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Advertisement for non-notable restaurant. The NPR source is just an advertorial. DGG ( talk ) 04:17, 24 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I excluded sources from Chicago (Tribune, etc), in an attempt to show notability. Manny's Deli, which is notable, has many Chicago area sources and yet hasn't been nominated for deletion. If I add these sources I excluded, would that help make the notability case (sticking to top local publications). Eleven City Diner and Kaufman's (as well as Steingolds - but I didn't add an article for that one) have had a number of references in articles from publications from outside the Chicago area, and/or intended for a national audience.
I acknowledge that these other delis are not as notable as Mannys. But I attempt to make the case that they pass the notability test.
For example, if these articles are deleted, why is Kenny & Zuke's Delicatessen still not deleted. It has articles of similar quality and they are more of a local area nature than what I used here.
I have no connection to these businesses other than I live in the same city / metro area. Sblument (talk) 04:24, 24 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I added additional content and sources Sblument (talk) 19:53, 24 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Sblument: No reason to not include Chicagoland sources, of course having non-local sources can help show notability but local sources can often provide more detailed information. Skynxnex (talk) 14:58, 31 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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"Diner elevates usual soup-and-sandwich. By: Bianchi, Laura, Crain's Chicago Business, 01496956, 6/12/2006, Vol. 29, Issue 24": Open just a few months, Eleven City Diner already feels like an old-timer in the South Loop. ebsco.
How to Throw a Perfect Summer Picnic Never before have so many restaurants offered food to go. Here, a guide to what to pick up and what to pack it in, plus two easy recipes for dining al fresco. By Marian Bull PRINT EDITIONHow to; Putting On a Perfect Summer Picnic|July 25, 2021, Page ST3 (NYT)
A significant (more than ten paragraphs) feature in "Rewriting the rules. By: JENNINGS, LISA, Nation's Restaurant News, 00280518, 10/6/2014, Vol. 48, Issue 19" ebsco
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I added all these references plus a few more Sblument (talk) 22:49, 1 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
None of the sources meet NCORP criteria for establishing notability. HighKing++ 15:04, 6 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
would the following articles pass this same test
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenny_%26_Zuke%27s_Delicatessen
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kornblatt%27s_Delicatessen
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brent%27s_Deli
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loeb%27s_NY_Deli Sblument (talk) 20:46, 6 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
If there is some sort of project or way for us in the Wiki community to solve this problem - to come up with a general notability guideline for restaurants, I am willing to volunteer some time/effort. I understand the risks involved in not wanting Wiki to be a place to promote restaurants. But although there may not be an easy consensus rubric that will satisfy every case, perhaps Wikipedia could benefit from some kind of "floor" guidelines. I also bet there are many articles of restaurants that may or may not meet current notability standards.
Also, a confounding factor is that wiki has virtually unlimited space, so the standard should not be so harsh as it would be in a space limited encyclopedia. ~~ Sblument (talk) 23:43, 6 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Response Just be aware of WP:WHATABOUTX at AfD. If you believe there are topics here that aren't notable, feel free to nominate them for deletion. On the other hand, in my experience, there are editors who, at a fundamental level, don't like the idea of carving out different guidelines for different topics. For me, I've encountered a number of topic areas where the project might benefit from specific guidelines and Restaurants are one of them. Although to be fair from what I've seen of available sources, this Diner still would still fail the guidelines I have in mind. We would need a lot more than common or garden restaurant reviews and announcements of opening and closing branches. For example, if the restaurant was associated with a notable chef or if the restaurant won a prestigious annual award (as opposed to "Restaurant of the Week!) or awarded something from Michelin, etc. If you do decide to request/campaign for restaurant-specific guidelines, please ping me as I would also like to participate. HighKing++ 12:00, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks I'll look into this more and decide if I want to request/campaign as you suggest. One thing in particular with Jewish delis - there could be an idea that these delis are notable for the Jewish community, whereas the most notable Jewish delis (in Chicago, Manny's, in New York, Katz's) that feel notable in general. Michelin doesn't give stars to delis of course, and I would guess that most Michelin 1 star restaurants (even those with notable chefs) do not have a wiki article. For example in Chicago, Beverly Kim has an article as a notable chef, but her restaurants don't, even Parachute which has had many years of 1 Michelin star. Sblument (talk) Sblument (talk) 21:17, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    I did some research and think there may or may not be a need for a notability guideline for restaurants. It looks like wikiproject food and drink would be a good place, maybe for an essay? I would be willing to write one that talks about notability for restaurants and bars. Sblument (talk) 19:41, 8 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Just be aware that if there aren't any specific guidelines for Restaurants, they'll continue to fall under NCORP but Food and Drink is the best place to start a discussion for sure. HighKing++ 13:52, 9 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was merge to Scarling. Daniel (talk) 22:41, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Rickey Lime[edit]

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Fails WP:MUSICBIO; member of one notable band but does not appear to be independently notable. MIDI (talk) 22:00, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Daniel (talk) 22:41, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

2015–16 Liga Bolasepak Rakyat[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG, season of a possibly non-professional league. Avilich (talk) 21:42, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Daniel (talk) 22:38, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

2016–17 Liga Bolasepak Rakyat[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG, season of a possibly non-professional league. Avilich (talk) 21:40, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Daniel (talk) 22:38, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

2017–18 Liga Bolasepak Rakyat[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG, season of a possibly non-professional league. Avilich (talk) 21:38, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Daniel (talk) 22:37, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

2017 Liga Futsal Kebangsaan (Wanita)[edit]

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Same reason as Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2014–15 Liga Futsal Kebangsaan. Avilich (talk) 21:34, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Daniel (talk) 22:37, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Subang United[edit]

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Non-notable semipro club, sourced to Facebook only. Avilich (talk) 21:31, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 04:28, 13 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Bert Hill (American football)[edit]

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While accomplished, not enough in-depth coverage to show that they pass WP:GNG, and does not meet WP:NSPORTS. Onel5969 TT me 11:59, 24 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Onel, thanks for giving advice for the article. While the article is not complete, my last edits were made to highlight the importance of the athletic training in the longterm perspective of the Detroit Lions. Due to its nature, research in this field is not trivial and my personal resources are at a low right now. Further SIGCOV can and should be integrated in the article in the future. Dopeious (talk) 19:55, 28 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 20:43, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sakkai Eightraid[edit]

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Unreleased (since 2018). Lack of notability. Alex Spade (talk) 19:11, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to Timber Timbre#Albums. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 20:43, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Cedar Shakes[edit]

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Only source on page is the band's own website, found no other coverage beyond a few passing mentions and a couple brief but not-very-promising selections. Redirect to Timber_Timbre#Albums. See also Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Medicinals. QuietHere (talk) 18:23, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Feel free to start an RM if there's a desire to discuss the title further. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 20:42, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Medicinals[edit]

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Article contains one review from a website I've never heard of. Whether that site is reliable or not, I couldn't tell you, but I can say that I didn't find any other reliable coverage on this album in my search. Redirect to Timber_Timbre#Albums. QuietHere (talk) 18:20, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

See also Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cedar Shakes. QuietHere (talk) 18:23, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Changing to Keep per the sourcing found by Bearcat. (In my defense, the Exclaim! review does not appear on the first page of search results for me, and the coverage in Ontario papers is not indexed by Wikipedia Library.) Jfire (talk) 01:42, 8 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Always love to see these things end in keeps with improved articles. I guess I missed that Exclaim! article, surprising as that is. I definitely don't remember seeing it, and while even if I had I still wouldn't've called this notable on that alone, the rest of the coverage Bearcat found looks like it seals the deal.
As for the renaming proposal, I had thought about that as well, but I don't see any other significant uses of the word "medicinals" on the site aside from the PJ Harvey song. The word doesn't even appear on Medicine (disambiguation), nor does its singular form. Disambiguating seems unnecessary to me. QuietHere (talk) 15:34, 8 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 20:40, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

David Moo[edit]

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The subject does not meet Wikipedia notability standards based on the cited references. If there are other opinions, please share here. JRed176 (talk) 17:44, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Notability on Wikipedia is about reliable sources in the plural, not just one source. One cited source is the case now after the review of the article i.e. the subject's voice over career, barring the external links. I don't believe the case can be made for being a notable bartender in this instance. The bar owned by the subject in question appears to be notable but a Wikipedia article could not be written only about a notable bartender with those sources presented (and could practically anyone good at their job with a few write ups online by extension have a Wikipedia article? I think not). Therefore, notability, if granted for purposes of a Wikipedia article is about the subject's voice over career and that alone primarily. If it is decided to keep the article, those who favor doing so should ideally find proper additional sources and cite them accordingly regarding the subject's work and impact. JRed176 (talk) 14:34, 9 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. I went through the article and consolidated the sections due to the short length, making a "Personal life and career" section instead. I added where citations are needed. The consensus appears to be to keep the article. Due to its present state, I feel it's ok to keep it and simply put a references needed notice at the top. Thanks
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The result was keep. Lord Roem ~ (talk) 19:52, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Muhammad Fariz[edit]

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Was draftified with the hopes of improvement, but no such luck, simply moved back referencing WP:NFOOTY as the reason for notability. Since that has been deprecated, fails WP:GNG. Onel5969 TT me 17:05, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment The "in depth media coverage" above is 3 quote heavy articles that barely discuss Fariz and focus on other topics. Dougal18 (talk) 11:18, 12 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. czar 18:15, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sally Hernandez[edit]

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Local politician who does not meet WP:NPOL, and cannot find enough in-depth sourcing to meet WP:GNG. Onel5969 TT me 16:59, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Without prejudice to a 'category' in its place, as suggested by some participants in the discussion below. Lord Roem ~ (talk) 19:58, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Cultural depictions[edit]

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WP:D doesn't seem like an appropriate way to tag this list. Can we get a bot to convert this to Category:Cultural depictions? I'd propose List of cultural depictions but there is no cultural depiction or any actual content beyond the bare list, so moving to category space sounds more appropriate. --Joy (talk) 16:59, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. czar 18:14, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Alabama–Southern Miss football rivalry[edit]

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This does not appear to be a notable rivalry. Cited sources do not establish it as a rivalry, and a cursory search doesn't turn up much either. Jweiss11 (talk) 16:46, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was merge to 2024 Indonesian general election. Daniel (talk) 22:36, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Change Coalition (Indonesia)[edit]

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WP:CRYSTALBALL and WP:NOTNEWS ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 16:39, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. czar 18:14, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Cork Student News[edit]

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Non-notable website that fails WP:NWEB and WP:GNG. The subject, a short-lived/limited-scope/run-of-the-mill website meets none of the notability criteria. It seemingly didn't win the only award for which it was (self?)nominated. The only mentions in news sources are trivial passing mentions (like these in the Irish Examiner [12][13][14]). With zero mentions (even in passing) in Irish Times, Irish Independent, etc. In my WP:BEFORE, the only sources that I could find to confirm the basic facts (launch/closure/etc) are primary sources. Which is telling. The clear SPA/COI/PROMO intent also doesn't help. (I would've PRODed, but was speedied previously.) Guliolopez (talk) 16:35, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was procedural keep. No prejudice against renominating these individually if a valid rationale is provided. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 20:37, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

2013–14 ŠK Slovan Bratislava season[edit]

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Penepi (talk) 16:27, 7 January 2023 (UTC) I am also nominating the following related pages because they are all unfinished, incomplete and/or pretty much empty articles:[reply]

2013–14 MŠK Žilina season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
2015–16 MFK Zemplín Michalovce season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
2021–22 MŠK Žilina season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
2022–23 AS Trenčín season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
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  • Comment @Cielquiparle: Why would you group a season from 2013-14 with a season from 2022-23, there is no logic in doing that. Yet we have multiple seasons from different years in one AfD here. This is not a practical way to run an AfD. Govvy (talk) 23:02, 9 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'd think the combining would be mostly done in cases where a team for a season or two had slipped into a lower league which many not meet NSEASONS. Some (all?) of these nominations are for top league seasons. There's no prejudice against trying to merge articles once the AFD is over. That's more of a content issue. Nfitz (talk) 05:56, 10 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Daniel (talk) 22:36, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Dinosaurs on Earth Then...and Now 1995[edit]

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I can't find anything about this 25 min instructional video other than that it exists and can apparently still be ordered on DVD [15] (wonder what the sales rate is :). No independent 3rd party coverage. Notability appears insufficient. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 16:07, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to Wings West Airlines as an WP:ATD. (non-admin closure) ASTIG️🎉 (HAPPY 2023) 15:45, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Mark Morro[edit]

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While certainly accomplished, I can't find any in-depth sourcing on this business executive. He definitely gets mentioned, but no in-depth coverage. Fails WP:GNG. Onel5969 TT me 15:31, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was draftify. When there are multiple reliable sources, send through WP:AFC for review rather than directly moving into mainspace. czar 18:05, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Syun Koide[edit]

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Has been redirected, has been draftified, in hopes of improving the sourcing. With no effect. Currently it is sourced by two primary and one unreliable source. Searches only turned up coverage in that same unreliable source. Onel5969 TT me 15:25, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure) Double sharp (talk) 07:04, 8 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Skathi (moon)[edit]

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Despite the GA status, this article is in my view artificially inflated by re-explaining common facts to all irregular natural satellites, e.g. origins (which is mostly a glorified "we don't know much"), or even worse, explaining common facts to all astronomical objects, e.g. orbital inclination and eccentricity. Once one removes this, there is precious little content that is actually specific to Skathi: simply discovery, naming, rotation period, and the specific orbital elements, which is only enough to fill a table row rather than a full article. (And even the naming story is shared with other moons.) There are no specific sources only about this moon and thus notability does not appear to be met; see also discussion at Talk:Moons of Jupiter#Should we stop creating articles for newly-discovered irregular moons? that makes the same point for almost all the irregular moons and found a broad consensus to redirect almost all of them. Propose redirection to Moons of Saturn#Skathi, which already gives the orbital elements and discovery year (LaundryPizza03 has already added name etymologies to the Uranus and Neptune moon articles, and presumably etymologies will similarly be added soon to the Jupiter and Saturn ones). Double sharp (talk) 15:16, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Withdrawn by nominator: I am not completely convinced by the evidence provided, but consensus is unanimously for keeping, so there's no point in having this run any further. Double sharp (talk) 07:04, 8 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The Blunck book (which I have) covers every single moon then known in the Solar System. Considering that consensus found most of them to be not notable enough, this does not by itself seem to be enough evidence (and besides, it talks more about the namesakes than about the moons). Similarly, such NASA pages exist for all the moons, and the sources presented are about irregulars in general, not Skathi specifically. Double sharp (talk) 16:30, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The problem with discounting content related to the namesakes is that the naming of Skathi is probably its most important distinguishing feature, and the thing that reliable sources focus most on. This, and its usefulness (together with other objects in the same group) for testing theories about the formation of Saturn's moons, is probably the feature that its encyclopedic notability hinges on. - Astrophobe (talk) 16:32, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
But that is more naturally covered by our article on the namesake: Skaði herself. Likewise, the usefulness of the irregulars in testing theories on Solar System formation is more naturally covered by the main article irregular satellite. Your argumentation would suggest copying and pasting the exact same content over a bunch of almost identical articles, one for each moon; IMO, that would seem to be an inefficient organisation, not to mention a maintenance nightmare. Double sharp (talk) 16:36, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
That argument is about WP:OTHERSTUFF. The overall intellectual organization of Wikipedia writ large is not of issue at the deletion discussion for this specific page. What matters is that this page passes GNG. Incidentally, I think this is enough back-and-forth, and I'll make this my last reply for a while. - Astrophobe (talk) 16:40, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Can I ask that you please not tendentiously hector every Keep !voter? I don't want to respond to all of your responses and get into an exchange under every single !vote, but it's not productive for every comment by any editor to be followed by a rebuttal from the person who opened the AfD. - Astrophobe (talk) 17:17, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, if that's what you'd prefer. Need to sleep anyway, tomorrow I'll probably post a separate comment (not a reply) analysing the sources in detail. Double sharp (talk) 17:19, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep
WP:NASTRO 3 no? Ask me about air Cryogenic air (talk) 17:34, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. Withdrawn by nom. (non-admin closure) Onel5969 TT me 20:59, 8 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Canada v Mexico (2022 FIFA World Cup qualification)[edit]

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As per Rosguill, "No coverage since the week of the game, does not appear to meet WP:LASTING". Onel5969 TT me 14:53, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. czar 18:09, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Biswanath College[edit]

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In a WP:BEFORE, the existence can be verified, but there was no significant coverage in reliable sources, failing general notability guidelines.

The college also fails notability guidelines for organisations. —usernamekiran (talk) 14:50, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. czar 18:09, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Manfred Markus[edit]

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Not enough in-depth coverage to pass WP:GNG, and Cannot see how they pass WP:NSCHOLAR. Onel5969 TT me 14:31, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 20:34, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Umayartuvarankulam[edit]

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No source and a WP:BEFORE doesn't produce much other than Wikipedia and its derivatives. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 13:55, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Paradise Chronicle: - the sources are published sources from reliable / reputable organisations. Dan arndt (talk) 07:13, 9 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
This RFC on the GNIS says otherwise. @Phil Bridger mentioned GNIS is not an RS for populated places per GEOLAND before. If a source of colonial times is seen as an RS, is a point of view. And the third source I can not access. If you'd add also the name of the source to what is meant to be an URL it would be great. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 08:08, 9 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Then also, was there more information on the settlement in the source or is that it? If there is, someone might try to get access to the source an add some more information. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 08:13, 9 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Eddie891 Talk Work 13:56, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Madiu Bari[edit]

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Amateur footballer from Portugal / Guinea Bissau who has basically no significant WP:SIGCOV, therefore failing WP:GNG. A Google search returns solely empty stats pages and a couple transfer reports, and nothing else. [20] Angelo (talk) 12:49, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Eddie891 Talk Work 13:56, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Theodoros Katsiaris[edit]

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Stats stub with no evidence of WP:GNG or WP:SPORTBASIC. My searches in Google News and DDG came back fruitless. 24 sports is just a basic contract renewal announcement, most of which is copied from his club's press release, so is not WP:IS. Sport FM is just a quote from him, with no analysis from third parties. He is mentioned once in passing in Sportime regarding yellow cards received. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 12:43, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Eddie891 Talk Work 13:57, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yahya Dhabiani[edit]

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Badly sourced BLP. Zero evidence of WP:GNG or WP:SPORTBASIC despite briefly playing at the professional level. Best source I can find is FilGoal, which is clearly a database source and therefore not acceptable for SPORTBASIC. Only other source I can find is Al-Hazm's Twitter, which is not reliable or independent. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 12:21, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Eddie891 Talk Work 13:57, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Abduraheem Al-Debbas[edit]

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Played 29 mins of professional football before moving down to the semi-pro leagues. I am unable to find any substantial coverage so struggling to see how this passes WP:GNG or WP:SPORTBASIC. In Arabic searches, the best sources I can find are Alyaum, a brief quote from him before a match with no third-party analysis, El Heddaf, a contract renewal announcement and Hasa News, a match report that mentions him once in the article as a goalscorer and once in the article title. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 12:16, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy delete. (non-admin closure) Jfire (talk) 19:12, 7 January 2023 (UTC) and promptly salted (see [21]). DMacks (talk) 19:50, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Bakhtyar Aziz[edit]

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This article was initially created on 13 August 2021 by BakhtyarAziiz who would appear to be the subject of the article. It has then been re-created and speedily deleted a number of times without formal review. Perhaps there may be reliable sources in Arabic and the Kurdish languages to support the assertions made here? WP:BEFORE done, and it would appear that an article about Mr Aziz would fail any number of tests for notability including but not limited to WP:JOURNALIST and WP:ANYBIO. I usually add "always happy to be proved wrong" to WP:AFD-s. In this case, however, it would be reasonable for other editors to ask "why are using your admin permissions to start an WP:AFD instead of outright deleting the article?" Pete AU aka User:Shirt58 (talk) 🦘 11:35, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Daniel (talk) 22:29, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

List of 118 episodes[edit]

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A large portion of the article was written by 2679D, currently blocked for copyright violations, so the plots here are likely copyvio too. Even with the plots removed, the list would still be WP:INDISCRIMINATE, so I don't recommend merging it back to the main article. Darylgolden(talk) Ping when replying 11:33, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Procedural WP:SNOW close. The nomination is essentially asking in part for information about the novel to be added to the page, and if the nominator wants the redirect to be deleted, then Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion would be the place for this. North America1000 06:43, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The Ruby Circle[edit]

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This page is meant to be about the novel itself, yet only contains a redirect to the author, which is misleading. Nikkisha16 (talk) 09:21, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 08:08, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Decimal (cryptocurrency)[edit]

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This was tagged as WP:CSD#G11, which I am uncertain about (the article has citations, at least claims notability, and has existed in mainspace since December 11). Nonetheless, it is not a particularly great article.

Almost all of the citations are to self-published sources. The sources that aren't self-published are questionable; being listed on CoinMarketCap is of dubious notability, for example, as there are tens of thousands of tokens, coins and chains listed there. Others, like the citations to cosmos.network, have nothing to do with Decimal. I have been unable to find any reliable sources talking about this company. jp×g 08:40, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz Read! Talk! 06:47, 8 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

FC Twin[edit]

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I was looking at this as part of writing a blurb for the featured picture which accompanies the article, and as far as I could tell there's a lack of significant coverage of this console, I couldn't really find any sources on which to construct a complete article. Many of the sources that are in the page currently don't really refer to this particular console, more general info about famiclones, while those that do mention it directly such as [22] and [23] are just lists of games that work on the console and a passing mention. I'm happy to be corrected if there are more serious sources around though.  — Amakuru (talk) 13:06, 31 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Consensus was keep (non-admin closure) `~HelpingWorld~` (👽🛸) 01:40, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Talamasca[edit]

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Seems like a minor plot element, failing WP:GNG (SIGCOV). I can't even suggest a reasonable WP:ATD to redirect this to. The article is a pure plot summary, and its only redeeming quality is that it's referenced, but mentions in passing don't suffice to show notability. PS. Was prodded by User:Avilich , prod was removed by User:Spinningspark with "has entries in horror encyclopaedias". But the entry in The Vampire Book: The Encyclopedia of the Undead, despite being two pages long, seems to be a pure plot summary, and that fails WP:NOTPLOT. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 09:27, 31 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Together with Maharet's tapestry and the matrilineal family tree, the Talamasca provides a lineage, a coherent mythology,...

— Linda Badley, Writing Horror and the Body

In one sense or another, there are a number of anthropologists in the Mayfair trilogy. I wish to concentrate briefly , however, on the Talamasca, Ashlar, and Rowan Mayfair. These three provide sufficient examples to establish Rice's anthropological sensibility.

— Gary G. Roberts, The Gothic World of Anne Rice
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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 22:52, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Patrick Ferry (footballer)[edit]

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Footballer who fails GNG and SPORTSBASIC. Recreated after last AFD with more references which still don't amount to significant coverage. BlameRuiner (talk) 08:26, 31 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to Swedish Masters International Badminton Championships. Liz Read! Talk! 04:29, 13 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

2007 Swedish International[edit]

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Not a grand prix/grand prix gold event to justify a separate article. It is a series/challenger event, so should be either redirected to Swedish Masters International Badminton Championships or just deleted. zoglophie 06:47, 24 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Swedish Masters International Badminton Championships. I could not find anything on google or Wikipedia Library. The title is also non detailed. There could be 100 other things that had a 2007 sweeden international.`~HelpingWorld~` (👽🛸) 05:31, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 05:20, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Unique Meghnaghat Power Limited[edit]

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Holding company doesn't seem to meet WP:NCORP. The power plant itself might be notable, but this isn't WP:INHERITED to its holding company. MrsSnoozyTurtle 05:42, 31 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. This person sounds accomplished but on Wikipedia, we rely on reliable sources that provide verification of notability. Please try again should his work be get some academic or media coverage in the future. Liz Read! Talk! 05:20, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Asghar Mehdi Ashar[edit]

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Google search does not reveal sources that would indicate notability. This draft the author created was rejected for lack of notability as well. Also serious copyright concerns as that draft was G12-delted and the images here all appear to be copyvios. funplussmart (talk) 05:43, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. He's spreading Marsya worldwide, but there is no explanation of what that is; the article then goes into some sort of listing for this "school of thought?". I don't find anything we can use for sourcing, and I'm not even sure what the article is trying to tell me. Delete for lack of sourcing and no clear subject or explanation given by the article. Oaktree b (talk) 14:12, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. Almost unanimous opinion to Keep this article right now. Liz Read! Talk! 04:24, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

2023 Gold Coast mid-air collision[edit]

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While the event is certainly tragic and has received wide coverage in the immediate aftermath, this article fails WP:NOTNEWS as a single event that has no established enduring notability. — CR4ZE (TC) 05:23, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

A very ridiculous tag to add to the article. It will have large implications on future helicopter safety in Australia and internationally. Per item 2 in NOTNEWS, It is not routine for helicopters to fatally crash into each other let alone in the tourism capital of Australia. There is large public interest and they have the right to be informed. The tag has been removed. Canolanext (talk) 16:03, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Canolanext: I've added the tag back to the page. This is an AfD, so you can't remove the tag as you would in a WP:DEPROD. _MB190417_ (talk) 16:35, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
This article should certainly be retained, as mentioned by others it has a significance and notability for aviation safety worldwide. Douge1999 (talk) 04:56, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was merge to Deaths during the Mahsa Amini protests. Liz Read! Talk! 04:19, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Death of Mohammad Reza Sarvari[edit]

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Tragic, but Wikipedia is not the place to memorialize. Over 400 Iranian demonstrators have been killed during the Mahsa Amina protests. Only a handful received coverage more substantial than the initial burst of coverage, passing mentions in articles reporting on the overall protests, and local news articles. Only a handful had significant, tangible impacts. Sarvari's death, however unwarranted and tragic it may be, is not one of them. Should be redirected to Deaths during the Mahsa Amini protests. Mooonswimmer 04:52, 31 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was merge to Deaths during the Mahsa Amini protests. Liz Read! Talk! 04:19, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Killing of Erfan Zamani[edit]

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Tragic, but Wikipedia is not the place to memorialize. Over 400 Iranian demonstrators have been killed during the Mahsa Amina protests. Only a handful received coverage more substantial than the initial burst of coverage, passing mentions in articles reporting on the overall protests, and local news articles. Only a handful had significant, tangible impacts. Zamani's death, however unwarranted and tragic it may be, is not one of them. Could be redirected to Deaths during the Mahsa Amini protests. Mooonswimmer 04:46, 31 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Keeping this article for future work on separating this one list into more specific lists as suggested by the nominator. Or maybe a simple rename to a less general name would fix any perceived problem. I'm also conscious of potential disruption the deletion of this article could cause for other articles that are connected to this list and template. Liz Read! Talk! 04:18, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

List of poems in Chinese or by Chinese poets[edit]

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The scope of the list is way too broad for a Wikipedia list. Mucube (talkcontribs) 04:24, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, thinking about it a bit more, I remember my primary reason for creating this list article back in 2014 was to clean up the Chinese poetry template, which was getting overburdened. I thought it useful to have some helpful examples of poetry in the navigation template at first, but this was becoming unwieldy over time. Dcattell (talk) 01:35, 8 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Warning: Sorry about the rambling above. It's just that it's been about a half dozen years since I have thought about this much, either the template or the article. However, the "List of poems in Chinese or by Chinese poets" is written into Template:Chinese poetry. Deleting the article without re-writing the template will damage dozens of articles on Chinese poetry across en:Wikipedia article space, including some articles which are classified as being of high importance. "List of poems in Chinese or by Chinese poets" could use some improvement, however I am not going to do so in the face of impending deletion. Really, "List of poems in Chinese or by Chinese poets" should be improved to better represent examples of Chinese poetry. Simply using the article deletion process in this case would create a quite a mess! Deleting the article, and editing the template, and creating some other support for navigating to Chinese poems would be an option, and take a fair amount of work to do it right. So, no, it's not a good idea to just do an article deletion on "List of poems in Chinese or by Chinese poets". Not that it's a great example of an article as it stands! Cheers, Dcattell (talk) 03:59, 8 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
That's not a problem-the template can be edited to remove the link. Blythwood (talk) 09:02, 8 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect to Olav Zipser. (non-admin closure) ––FormalDude (talk) 05:42, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The First School of Modern SkyFlying[edit]

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I've prodded this with "The coverage (references, external links, etc.) does not seem sufficient to justify this article passing Wikipedia:General notability guideline nor the more detailed Wikipedia:Notability (companies) requirement. WP:BEFORE did not reveal any significant coverage on Gnews, Gbooks or Gscholar.". User:Jc37 suggested a merge to Olav Zipser , but IMHO the article is purely promotional, and the notability of Zipser is dubious (it just survived an AfD as no consensus). Can we at least prune this entry from the series of SPA-written articles promoting Zipser and his businesses/ideas (other articles include Space Games and the most salvagable, freeflying, which just needs to be de-Zipserized per WP:UNDUE)). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:46, 31 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Olav Zipser. It can be AfD'd later and if found to be not notable, then they can both go. But, redirect appears to be the reasonable as we're apparently supposed to approach alternative to deletion. I'm hesistant to suggest redirect to a target when the relevance is questionable such as in the case of re-directing some small time personnel/company to an indisputably notable target whose connection with the article company/person in question is very tangential. In this case, the two are closely inter-related so I vote re-direct. Graywalls (talk) 00:51, 3 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

keep

Zipser is known and respected around the world by pretty much every freeflying skydiver alive, as the ‘Father of FreeFly’.

It would not be possible to talk about the history of freeflying without mentioning Zipser, and not possible to completely 'de-Zipserize' the freeflying article (as suggested above) as Zipser is undisputedly recognised in skydiving circles around the world, as the founder of freeflying.

The First School of Modern SkyFlying is exactly that, it was 'the first' - since it existed there are now hundreds of freefly instructors and schools around the world, as well as wind tunnels and wind tunnel coaches teaching freeflying.

The First School of Modern SkyFlying does not exist as a business to be promoted, so the article is historical so cannot be promotional, other than to the sport of skydiving and freeflying itself as an activity.

The same is true of the Space Games, it is part of the history of the development of freeflying. The last Space Games was held in 2006. So again, this article cannot be considered promotional, other than to the sport of skydiving and freeflying itself as an activity.

With all due respect, I feel that these articles would be best edited (or decided on) by Wikipedians with skydiving knowledge and experience, as this is a non-mainstream activity, with Zipser being very much a significant part of freefly history and development.

As per Wikipedias notability guidelines… Zipser, certainly in skydiving history and circles, is "worthy of notice", “remarkable", "significant, interesting, or unusual enough to deserve attention or to be recorded”

The equivalent of a PhD in sporting terms would be the Sports Emmy Award, which he received.

There is a solid reference on the official Fédération aéronautique internationale website - the world governing body for air sports

https://www.fai.org/page/isc-artistic-events

As mentioned before in a previous [discussion] for the Olav Zipser article. Skydiving and freeflying are fringe sports / not main stream activities. Whilst the sports themselves are often mentioned in mainstream media (normally only when there is an accident or death though), the pioneers and champions famous within the sports are generally only featured in skydiving and parachuting specific publications and websites. Rarely is main stream media interested in the individuals behind the sport that are 'famous' within the sport like with main stream spectator sports like football.

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Delete Famous doesn't mean notable. I don't find any sources for this school or sports "thing". I'm not sure even the Olav fellow would be notable, but we can discuss if/when that gets tot AfD. The references mentioned above are about the sport, not this entity. That's the issue. Oaktree b (talk) 14:05, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Oaktree b Just a note that Olav had his AfDs, two, recent one was no consensus and you commented there briefly :) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Olav Zipser (2nd nomination) Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 16:00, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

keep or merge with Olav Zipser Quadtripplea (talk) 18:50, 9 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You already voted above, please note it's one vote per person. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:27, 10 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete per WP:CSD#G5 as the creator is a sock of User:CalebHughes. Favonian (talk) 12:28, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Florida–South Florida football rivalry[edit]

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This is clearly not an actual rivalry. Zeng8r (talk) 03:47, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Clearly not a real, notable rivalry. Jweiss11 (talk) 03:48, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Redirect. Nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure) ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 17:36, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Cristiano Ronaldo jr[edit]

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WP:INHERIT. Just because father is famous, doesn't mean the son merits an article. ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 03:45, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 03:57, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Elizabeth Spaulding (American executive)[edit]

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WP:NOTINHERIT WP:PROMO and no WP:SIGCOV. May be a case of WP:TOOSOON ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 03:38, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

- Comment. I drafted this article, I think she is a notable CEO and there are many more rs avaible ot link, but I have no attachment to it really. It can be deleted. I kept it short just in case AfD so I do not spend too much time on it. Thanks for review. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Singularitywiki (talkcontribs) 21:12, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 02:49, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ajeet Singh Yadav (politician)[edit]

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Fails WP:POLITICIAN and no WP:SIGCOV. I performed a WP:BEFORE search and didn't find anything. Could be transliterated name ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 02:23, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The number of people who do or don't reside in the constituency or ward that a politician represents is irrelevant. What makes state legislators notable enough for Wikipedia is not the population of their district, but the fact that they all have an equal voice in passing statewide laws regardless of the population of each individual district — so the fact that a city councillor may happen to represent a comparable or greater number of voters than a state legislator does has nothing to do with anything, because the population of a state legislator's constituency has nothing to do with the state legislator's notability either. The notability of a city councillor hinges on writing a substantive article about his political significance that's supported by GNG-worthy reliable sourcing, not on how many people do or don't live in his ward. Bearcat (talk) 17:30, 9 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails WP:POLITICIAN as municipal officials don't meet guidelines unless they have significant coveage. Belichickoverbrady (talk) 01:36, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Vanamonde (Talk) 01:28, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Griffpatch[edit]

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For a user on a website that's not really that popular, I don't think Griffpatch fits the topic for a Wikipedia article. Even though he's the most followed user on Scratch, he doesn't seem to be notable enough. I searched for him and he only appears on 1 news website which is in French and the news article only talks about how to play Paper Minecraft. https://astucejeuxps4.com/quest-ce-que-paper-minecraft-guides-de-jeu-professionnels/ However, Griffpatch is mentioned in a few books: https://www.google.com/search?tbs=bks:1&q=%22Griffpatch%22+-wikipedia

The refs in the article aren't reliable as well, as most of them are taken from Google search, Twitter, Fandom.com, and ScratchStats. Searching up "Griffpatch" using search only shows his Scratch account and Youtube account. Searching down more just seemed to show more user-generated stuff. I'll admit that Griffpatch is a really epic Scratcher, but he doesn't really seem notable enough to be a Wikipedia article. But what do you guys think? 🦁⋆JennilyW♡🦌 (talk) 01:28, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I saw someone else called this "user-generated stuff", I'm not entirely sure what they mean by that but isn't most content in the internet generated by users? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Utter Donkey (talkcontribs)

It looks like you've posted examples of user-generated content (UGC). This kind of content is anything that is created by users of a website. Examples include social media posts, free blogs, and forum threads. Wikipedia considers this kind of content unreliable, and therefore should not be used as a source. TheManInTheBlackHat (Talk) 19:42, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for providing that link. Would Twitter still be a reliable source though since the information being referenced was provided to Twitter by the subject of the article? Just to clarify, the links I posted above were just trying to show that griffpatch is significant. JennilyW, you said "for a use on a site that's not very popular". I'm not quite sure how it's not popular since it has its own Wikipedia page and has over 90 million users according to its Wikipedia page.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Utter Donkey (talkcontribs) 22:24, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, Scratch has over 90 million users, but it's not popular enough for any of its users to gain notability outside of Scratch. 🦁⋆JennilyW♡🦌 (talk) 22:56, 8 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Well it surely must be since he is mentioned in the articles I have linked previously. (I know because they are user-generated, they cannot be used as references or sources, but I'm simply using them to help my argument.) Also, doesn't the fact that people have already tried to create Wikipedia articles about him also show he has some notability? I'm sure many people have tried to find him on Wikipedia and a small amount of those people, maybe even only 1 or 2, have tried to make a Wikipedia page about him. If a decent amount of people are trying to find a Wikipedia article, does that not make them notable enough to have one? (this is purley speculation, please correct me if I'm wrong). Personally, I think a platform with 90 million users is popular enough but my opinion is not the only one that matters. He is also known outside of scratch though, for example his games have been shared outside of scratch to many external websites and he's gained a decent amount of subscribers on YouTube and members of his discord server.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Utter Donkey (talkcontribs) 23:28, 8 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Even if he had a page on Wikipeida before, they were still deleted. If those old articles were deleted, then that means that he doesn't have enough notability. Wikipedia articles have guidelines in order for them to actually be a article and not to get deleted. If Griffpatch is notable, but doesn't meet the guidelines for a Wikipeida article, then he shouldn't be a such topic for an article. And even if he is known outside Scratch, Griffpatch still needs to follow the notability guideline. For more info check Wikipedia:Notability. 🦁⋆JennilyW♡🦌 (talk) 01:34, 9 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Apart from news sites, what sources are not user-generated? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Utter Donkey (talkcontribs) 23:02, 9 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Utter Donkey You can see a list of reliable and non-user-generated sources at WP:GREL, but I doubt they have anything related to Griffpatch there. Remember to read the Legend first. 🦁⋆JennilyW♡🦌 (talk) 23:17, 9 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. Vanamonde (Talk) 01:28, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Let Her Burn[edit]

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Although Black is widely known for her song Friday (released in 2011) this album has received pre-release coverage but it seems to me it's insufficient to prove lasting notability. Bedivere (talk) 01:12, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • This just goes through the first six, talking about her singles isn't the same as talking about her album. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 18:17, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Now we are straying into WP:OSE. Your first example has a section about "Background and recording", and has articles for the singles involved to shift the focus to the album's overall content. Your second example has passing mentions of the singles used there with the main focus being about the album. Your third example of "Flowers" is mentioned only twice in the article with information geared towards the album itself. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 18:35, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • I wouldn't object to an article about Crumbs (Rebecca Black song). - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 18:39, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • To be clear here, my opinion isn't to delete. Someone can and should userfy or draft this article until more comes out about her album, I mean why the rush? - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 18:54, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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If you want to delete just because she sang Friday and that it would be "embarrassing" to Wikipedia i'm pretty disappointed. Dinah5667 (talk) 22:53, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Dinah5667 Personal attacks are not allowed and this is WP:NOTAFORUM. Bedivere (talk) 23:20, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Dinah's comment was about the deficient reasoning in your nomination and was not a personal attack. Also, WP:NOTAFORUM very clearly says to keep discussions out of the main articles and do them on talk pages instead. This and all other AfD's are discussions in which the community builds consensus, so this IS a forum. You will have to accept the fact that people disagree with you. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 15:24, 12 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
You are incorrect. Dinah's comment falsely assumes me and the other delete voter are leading Wikipedia to an embarrassment because we supposedly want deletion "just because she sang Friday". While I do mention Friday in my nomination, it is only as context, and does not imply that is the reason for deletion. NOTAFORUM also means discussion should remain on topic. Making such comments (which they reiterated more personally on the article talk page, if you didn't see it) do not help at all. Regarding your last comment, it is unnecessary and out of place. Had you read my reply above to BD, you would not have said such a thing in the first place. Bedivere (talk) 04:48, 13 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I could argue about whether I'm "incorrect", but this discussion should be about an album that is clearly notable, and your reactions to criticism aren't making your nomination any more logical. I'll sign off with a friendly recommendation to expand your perception of what a "forum" is. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 15:35, 13 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 22:54, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Common Tasks for Assessment[edit]

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Only one source (no longer present). This article's topic doesn't seem notable to me. DarklitShadow (talk) 01:25, 31 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Unless further sources can be found, I'd suggest deletion. StarryNightSky11  02:10, 31 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Doesn't seem to have any other sources. Google search.
DarklitShadow (talk) 19:04, 31 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Transforming Assessment [30]
  • Exploring Mathematics and Science Teachers' Knowledge [31]
  • Educator Workload in South Africa [32]
SpinningSpark 22:14, 31 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hmmm... is it worthwhile to merge with Education in South Africa?
DarklitShadow (talk) 22:54, 31 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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