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The result was delete. The band clearly fails WP:GNG, and the article not (yet) suitable for main article space. In lieu of deleting the history, though, I am fine with it going back to draft space for more incubation. —C.Fred (talk) 21:00, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Antiworld[edit]

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Non-notable band that fails WP:MUSIC and WP:GNG. No third-party coverage, no work with any notable label nor any official releases. Promotional article created by single-purpose user with no other editing history. sixtynine • whaddya want? • 23:44, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Smartyllama (talk) 20:48, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Rich Carter[edit]

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Doesn't meet WP:PROF guidelines:
1. The person's research has had a significant impact in their scholarly discipline, broadly construed, as demonstrated by independent reliable sources.
In terms of citation counts, his most cited paper has 124 citations according to Google Scholar, his h-index is 33, these are good but not exceptional statistics. I can't see any sign that he has had an exceptional impact in the field of total synthesis. He doesn't pass the "Average Professor Test" on these grounds.

2. The person has received a highly prestigious academic award or honor at a national or international level.
The awards on his CV do not seem to fit this definition of highly prestigious - most were obtained as an undergraduate, graduate or postdoc, or are internal to OSU (e.g. Sugihara young faculty award)

3. The person is or has been an elected member of a highly selective and prestigious scholarly society or association (e.g., a National Academy of Sciences or the Royal Society) or a fellow of a major scholarly society which reserves fellow status as a highly selective honor (e.g., Fellow of the IEEE).
There is no evidence for this.

4. The person's academic work has made a significant impact in the area of higher education, affecting a substantial number of academic institutions.
Again, no sign of this.

5. The person holds or has held a named chair appointment or distinguished professor appointment at a major institution of higher education and research, or an equivalent position in countries where named chairs are uncommon.
Although he was the Chair of the Chemistry Department at OSU from 2012 to 2017, this is an administrative role and not an endowed Chair.

6. The person has held a highest-level elected or appointed administrative post at a major academic institution or major academic society.
No, unless Chair of the Chemistry Department counts - I think the bar is higher than that though.

7. The person has had a substantial impact outside academia in their academic capacity.
He has founded a company, but so have lots of other people. I found a few local news items about Valliscor on Google News, but nothing particularly noteworthy.

8. The person is or has been the head or chief editor of a major, well-established academic journal in their subject area.
No.

9. The person is in a field of literature (e.g., writer or poet) or the fine arts (e.g., musician, composer, artist), and meets the standards for notability in that art, such as WP:CREATIVE or WP:MUSIC.
No.

In summary, while he seems like a good scientist, there is no evidence that he meets the WP:PROF notability criteria. Polyharrisson (talk) 17:37, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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the first article is a different Rich Carter (mathematician based in Bristol, UK), the second is a press release from his employer (Oregon State University). Polyharrisson (talk) 07:09, 8 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Polyharrisson, you're right, I didn't read them closely enough. Schazjmd (talk) 13:23, 8 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. T. Canens (talk) 03:33, 22 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Neil Seeman[edit]

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I am unconvinced that either WP:BIO, WP:PROF or WP:AUTHOR are met. On the BIO front, none of the sources currently used are independent, reliable and contain in depth coverage of the subject. This in National Post is the best source I could find but it's probably not enough. I don't see anything on the PROF front which would get him over the notability threshold either - this 2016 paper has 52 citations according to google scholar but judging by this search his h-index is < 10. Finally, on the author front, I can't find any substantial writing on his books. SmartSE (talk) 22:44, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. T. Canens (talk) 03:33, 22 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The Dirty Disco[edit]

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Not seeing anything that satisfies WP:MUSICIAN. Clarityfiend (talk) 22:30, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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  • I'll add that WP:BAND criteria regarding radio play specifies a band's work/song needs to be in rotation as opposed to random play(s) on a specific show. No evidence is provided that this band's work was in rotation. ShelbyMarion (talk) 11:05, 16 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, absolutely - the nature of the show in question is that bands only get played once on it, as their "big break", and then the presenter moves on to the hundreds of other acts waiting for their song to be played. It's very unlikely that they or any other act on the programme got more than a single spin. Richard3120 (talk) 21:38, 16 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect to Blockade of the Gaza Strip. T. Canens (talk) 03:37, 22 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Just Future For Palestine Flotilla[edit]

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Unsourced, and probably not notable. Alex.osheter (talk) 21:16, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

37 refs of which 34 are primary sources, 1 is a blog, and the remaining 2 describe a single event on October 26 2018. This event is better suited for Blockade of the Gaza Strip. Alex.osheter (talk) 21:37, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Note that 7&6=thirteen appears not to have looked at the page before offering an opinion, because this protest happened in 2018, making it ineligible for merging into a section on events between 2007 - 2010. Political developments that occurred in 2010 make it inappropriate to extent that section to 2018.E.M.Gregory (talk) 02:12, 22 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect to JG Thirlwell. Material can be copied over from the page history as desired and per WP:CWW Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 21:28, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Manorexia[edit]

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There is no evidence of notability for this “band”. Trillfendi (talk) 21:12, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 21:26, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Laura Frey[edit]

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Non-notable presenter. Article is more like a CV. - Funky Snack (Talk) 20:44, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. North America1000 06:15, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Three Quarter Ale[edit]

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Fails notability per WP:NBAND. Google search only brings up Social Media profiles, which do not contribute to WP:GNG. Bkissin (talk) 16:06, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. North America1000 06:36, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Known World Players[edit]

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Hasn't met WP:GNG since 2015. No sources cited. Google search brings up soccer players and sources linked to Society for Creative Anachronism who merely list the group, not WP:SIGCOV. Bkissin (talk) 15:57, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 22:12, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The Jolly Rogers[edit]

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Not notable per WP:NMUSIC. Only source cited is their website, google search brings up social media and passing mentions on Ren Faire websites that would not constitute WP:SIGCOV or meet WP:GNG in my eyes Bkissin (talk) 15:35, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. As pointed out, all relevant info already in the parent article. Tone 18:31, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Richat Structure (Atlantis fringe theory)[edit]

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Thus is a copy and paste for here [[4]] with a couple of lines added. Not sure if I should regard it as a fork, as it really is the same material.Slatersteven (talk) 15:49, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The idea is that the section in Location hypotheses of Atlantis is too long, it needs to mention the two waves that this fringe theory has undergone and the different "reasons" underpinning them. It doesn't really need an extensive discussion about the more detailed aspects of how the theory underwent fame as a viral event (Viral video, tabloids, and mainstream press) which logically could find a home here in a more detailed article. Keizers (talk) 17:44, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Ahh, I see. Then it might have been a goods idea to have done that first, or even at any point after this AFD was launched. At this time it is a duplication, for which there is no justification.Slatersteven (talk) 17:46, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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OK, Slatersteven, I did that here. Can we keep this article now? Keizers (talk) 22:34, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Not anymore, it was too much information for the parent article and I've edited it down to an appropriate amount.Keizers (talk) 01:17, 20 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. T. Canens (talk) 03:39, 22 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Shuchir Suri[edit]

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Does not appear to meet WP:GNG. Presented sources are either interview or do not cover the subject in-depth. Hitro talk 10:05, 30 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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It seems that the Article is based on Good Sources with the same information shown in the article Shuchir Suri. Radadiyageet (talk) 07:53, 1 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

- additional Comment - I agree, there seems to be an element of promotion here, WP:SPIP, WP:NOTPROMOTION - Epinoia (talk) 18:15, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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- see WP:PLEASEDONT - looking more and more like promotion and advertising - WP:NOTADVERTISING - and I couldn't locate the guideline, but I believe that each editor gets one !vote, not multiple !votes - Epinoia (talk) 20:20, 8 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 21:22, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sonia Mackwani[edit]

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Promotional article. Not seeing enough here or online to pass WP:GNG. Edwardx (talk) 19:10, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Speedy keep as the nominator has stated it has good sources and may be notable. (non-admin closure) Atlantic306 (talk) 19:35, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Shruti Naidu[edit]

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This person maybe notable as I dont know about Kannada Cinema, but I googled her there was nothing much, I think it does not passes WP:GNG though it does have good sources but I read at Ananya Panday's article discussion actor needs two films released. thats why I'm submitting for AFD WikiLover97 (talk) 19:02, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Tone 18:27, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ankit Singh (writer)[edit]

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Non notable author/blogger. Has not received any press and the only notable reference is the one from Rajasthan Patrika, which happens to be a screengrab of a poem submitted by the said person. Fails WP:GNG Jupitus Smart 18:23, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Notability of an article's subject is usually determined by verifiable evidence of notability. How can one determine which sources to consider when determining the notability of a subject? We search for the subject on a search engine and then we get links to them. Some is by local level media and some by other independent sources. Then what should we do? I personally know people who are notable at local level but lack so called verifiable evidence and don't have Wikipedia articles on that subject. And, also I have encountered various articles on Wikipedia itself where a single reference determines their notability. Please clarify on the above point. Regarding the article, it is upto you and the other users/editors to determine if it meets criteria or not. I am NO ONE to suggest to keep it or delete. Thanks Sentiments777 (talk) 20:44, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Randykitty (talk) 17:32, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Amit Bagaria[edit]

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Appears to fail WP:N and is mostly written as a promotional piece. 40% of the sources are primary. --Chris (talk) 17:34, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Randykitty (talk) 17:28, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hronovka and Regnerka[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG. [Couldn't find additional] no third party sources [needed to pass GNG]. Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 17:14, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. Randykitty (talk) 17:27, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Brecon Carreg[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG. Have been tagged with ((notability|companies)) since April 2012. Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 17:12, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Randykitty (talk) 17:25, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Back Yard Recordings[edit]

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NCORP fail. Unsourced since 2008. Article created by account Backyardrecordings . This is the second AfD; the first garnered no discussion. ThatMontrealIP (talk) 16:58, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete or Rewrite. Has significant former clients, but not in itself WP:Notable. Possible conflict of interest also makes it lean more towards deletion. PoliceSheep99 (talk) 17:15, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • The Similou doesn't mention the label at all in the article, and is of dubious notability itself
  • Dega Breaks is of highly dubious notability, in fact it seems the biggest claim to notability is that is signed to Back Yard
  • Although Chromeo lists Back Yard as one of their labels, the label does not appear in their discography.
  • Ali Love is unsourced, but since it charted it is likely a notable band. So this kinda-sorta-maybe might help towards NMUSIC#5
  • Wiley (musician) does not even mention the label
  • Tyson is non-notable, it just links to the disambiguation page
  • Gossip (band) is notable, but only appears on Back Yard as a remix.
Therefore this label does not have a "roster of performers, many of whome are independently notable" and is not one of the "more important independent labels." My search for sources via Google, Google News, and newspapers.com turned up nothing, appears to fail GNG. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 14:23, 20 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
78.26: this is exactly the issue... Wiley, Chromeo and Ali Love are all notable artists, but none of them were signed to Back Yard when they attained their notability and chart success. The only band who was is Gossip. Richard3120 (talk) 21:45, 20 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. Randykitty (talk) 17:23, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Babel Label[edit]

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NCORP fail. ThatMontrealIP (talk) 16:56, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Randykitty (talk) 17:23, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Auralux Recordings[edit]

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Inadequate sourcing to support NCORP. ThatMontrealIP (talk) 16:52, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. Randykitty (talk) 17:22, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Kristina’s Broadway Connection[edit]

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Prod tag removed without comment. Subject fails notability guidelines at WP:COMPANY, also fails WP:GNG Ifnord (talk) 16:36, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Withdrawn by the nominator. (non-admin closure) Mhhossein talk 12:53, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Health Action International[edit]

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promotional article for organization without demonstrable notability . inadequately referenced organization. Most of the references are about the problems they try to solve. Some are press releases extensively quoting the organization. Some are mentions . Not one is a third party source substantially about the organization. Specifically: 1. is by the organization 2. is an inclusion on a listing. 3,4,5,6, 7, 8, 9, 10 are about snakebite. Some mention the organization, or are apparently press releases by its staff. 11,12,13,14,15 are about insulin shortages.Some mention the organization, or are apparently press releases by its staff, or information derived from the organization 17,18,19, similarly. DGG ( talk ) 16:13, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you for helping to improve the article. With regards to the references I have rewritten the article so the numbering of the references might not correspond anymore to the above numbering system. The following are third party newspapers that ask for HAI's opinions on the subject and should show that they are an expert on the problem that the organization is working on. They are all third party references.

[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10]

Refs added later: [11] [12] [13] [14] [15] [16]

[17]

2. This is a posting by the WHO that HAI is a certified WHO actor so that should show that they are notable.[11] 3. Should I remove all references that point to the org's own web page? I don't see that as necessarily bad and requiring deletion of the page but if they have to go they can.[12] 4. I deleted a reference about snakebite that does not specifically ref HAI. 5. The Lancet article is RS and specifically references HAI's study so that is both notable and third party and not primary research. [14] 6. BMJ is a RS and references HAI specifically. [13] 7. I don't see this as a press release as Nessa Childers, Member of the European Parliament is talking about the issue and mentions a press release by HAI. [15] I don't see any particular press releases in the references. And none of the authors seem to work for HAI. Did I miss one?

This might be special pleading but this about a non-profit working to bring good scientifically approved medicines to Africa and prevent deaths. What is wrong about that?--Akrasia25 (talk) 18:00, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Eveleens, Ilona (August 21, 2018). "Slangenbeten zijn een vergeten ziekte ten zuiden van de Sahara". de Verdieping Trouw. de Verdieping Trouw. Retrieved 14 May 2019.
  2. ^ Chakraborty, Ajanta (February 23, 2019). "New WHO strategy aims to halve the global impact of snakebite". The Times of India. The Times of India. Retrieved 14 May 2019.
  3. ^ MCFARLING, USHA LEE (12 June 2017). "Snakebite finally makes a WHO list of top global health priorities". STAT. Retrieved 14 May 2019.
  4. ^ "La morsure de serpent, un fléau oublié qui empoisonne toujours l'Afrique". Le Monde. Le Monde. March 19, 2019. Retrieved 14 May 2019.
  5. ^ Ratcliffe, Rebecca (May 24, 2018). "Mambas, medicine and one girl's race to survive Kenya's biting problem". The Guardian. The Guardian. Retrieved 14 May 2019.
  6. ^ "Striking Back: Snakebites Gain Global Attention". plos.org. May 8, 2018. Retrieved 14 May 2019.
  7. ^ Boseley, Sarah (20 Nov 2018). "Insulin shortage could affect 40 million people with type 2 diabetes". The Guardian. The Guardian. Retrieved 14 May 2019.
  8. ^ Lay, Kat (25 September 2018). "NHS paying too much for insulin". The Times. Retrieved 14 May 2019.
  9. ^ Ed Silverman, Ed (2018-03-20). "Pharma payments to docs in Europe are often inadequately reported or hard to find". STAT. Retrieved 14 May 2019.
  10. ^ Francesca Bruce, Francesca (1 February 2018). "Mandatory Joint Clinical Assessments For EU HTAs May Be 'Counterproductive'". Pink Sheet Pharma Intelligence. Retrieved 14 May 2019.
  11. ^ a b "Listing of HAI by the WHO as an official actor" (PDF). Retrieved 14 May 2019.
  12. ^ a b "HAI Website on its history". Retrieved 14 May 2019.
  13. ^ a b Gotham, Dzintars (2018). "Production costs and potential prices for biosimilars of human insulin and insulin analogues". BMJ Global Health. 3 (5): e000850. doi:10.1136/bmjgh-2018-000850. PMC 6157569. PMID 30271626. Retrieved 14 May 2019.
  14. ^ a b Basu, Sanjay; Yudkin, John S.; Kehlenbrink, Sylvia; Davies, Justine I.; Wild, Sarah H.; Lipska, Kasia J.; Sussman, Jeremy B.; Beran, David (2019). "Estimation of global insulin use for type 2 diabetes, 2018–30: A microsimulation analysis". The Lancet Diabetes & Endocrinology. 7 (1): 25–33. doi:10.1016/S2213-8587(18)30303-6. PMID 30470520. Retrieved 14 May 2019.
  15. ^ a b Fletcher, Elaine (16 May 2018). "TRIPS Flexibilities in High Demand". Health Policy Watch. Retrieved 14 May 2019.
  16. ^ Reich, Michael R. (1987). "Essential drugs: economics and politics in international health". Health policy. 8.1: 39–57. doi:10.1016/0168-8510(87)90129-1.
  17. ^ Walt G (1993). "WHO under stress: implications for health policy". Health Policy. 24 (2): 125–44. PMID 10126754.

References

  1. ^ Chetley, Andrew (1990). A Healthy Business?: World Health and the Pharmaceutical Industry (1st ed.). pp. 71–73. ISBN 978-0862327354.
  2. ^ Silverman, Milton; Lydecker, Mia; Lee, Philip (1992). Bad Medicine: The Prescription Drug Industry in the Third World (1st ed.). Stanford University Press. pp. 185–188. ISBN 978-0804716697.
  3. ^ Lee, Kelley; Buse, Kent; Fustukian, Suzanne (2002). Health Policy in a Globalising World (1st ed.). Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. p. 91. ISBN 978-0521009430. Retrieved 15 May 2019.
  4. ^ Walt, Gill (1996). Health Policy: An Introduction to Process and Power. ISBN 978-1856492645.
Thank you @DGG: for the comments and for removing the AfD on the article. I learned a lot and will be more careful in article creation in future.--Akrasia25 (talk) 03:13, 20 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Randykitty (talk) 17:21, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Dr. Franklin Perkins School[edit]

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Just because they call this a school doesn't make it a school. An institution of this kind lacks the societal position a school for the general population occupies. As such, it shouldn't be measured for notability as a general school is. Fails WP:NORG John from Idegon (talk) 16:12, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Well, you just made an WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS argument. -The Gnome (talk) 09:54, 18 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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For what it's worth, I fully agree with Yngvadottir and Roger (Dodger67) as above. Beyond any -ism, such as ageism, this is a matter of elemementary human decency. -The Gnome (talk) 08:13, 19 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. Randykitty (talk) 15:47, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Conrad Hyers[edit]

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not significant enough to merit inclusion on Wikipedia MisterNoOne (talk) 15:52, 14 May 2019 (UTC) Creating deletion discussion for Conrad Hyers[reply]

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The result was redirect to The Ohio State University Libraries. Seems like consensus here is that the topic does not meet Wikipedia's particular definition of notability. Since a redirect target has been offered and the possibility stated to copy some material over, with no disagreement, redirect it is per WP:ATD. If someone wants to retarget the redirect or get rid of it anyway, WP:RFD is thereaway. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 21:26, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Empirical Musicology Review[edit]

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Article PRODded with reason "Non-notable journal. Not indexed in any selective databases, no independent sources. Does not meet WP:NJournals or WP:GNG." Article dePRODded with reason "The page should not be deleted as the journal is impactful for the field of Computational Musicology and is hosted by an R1 research institution in the USA." There is no evidence of impact and being hosted by an institution, no matter how reputed, is no grounds for notability. PROD reason still stands, hence: delete. Randykitty (talk) 15:35, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Comment I saw these, but none of it goes beyond an in-passing mention. --Randykitty (talk) 17:13, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yes, nothing I've found goes into depth or substance. I'd suggest redirecting to the publisher, but we don't seem to have an article on them. XOR'easter (talk) 19:13, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Since when are citations in WP a criterium for notability? I could start publishing a journal, insert citations in some articles, and presto, my journal is notable?? Please provide a policy-based argument. Thanks. --Randykitty (talk) 05:31, 15 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Randykitty: You could start publishing a journal, insert citations in some articles, and without an article on the journal, readers would have no way of assessing the quality of that journal. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 02:57, 17 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
And without any reliable sources or indexing in any selective database, all you would have to write an article about this hypothetical journal would be the information that the publisher puts online (unless you'd engage in some serious OR, of course). You seem to be arguing that any academic journal should be regarded as notable, a notion that has been rejected in AfD upon AfD. --Randykitty (talk) 09:56, 17 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was speedy keep. The subject is legally recognised town, which can be verified through reliable sources. Hence WP:GEOLAND applies. (non-admin closure)usernamekiran(talk) 18:51, 17 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Maharajapuram[edit]

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I am still not convinced that it's notable. No indication of notability. Fails WP:GNG. Sincerely, Masum Reza 15:20, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Randykitty (talk) 15:43, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Pamela Wilson[edit]

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Article appears to be an attempted promotion of her business, radio show, and book. Most of the article's sources are about her general line of work, and not her own accomplishments. No reliable media coverage can be found for her radio show; her book and private practice have some notice in professional newsletters (e.g. [11]). All other sources found are routine business listings. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 14:33, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Randykitty (talk) 15:35, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Radio Woking[edit]

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Non-notable community radio station. The article sounds like a promotion for the station. Quite a few refs relating to the station nowbeing on DAB, but not sure this is enough. I could be wrong. I'm happy to be corrected. - Funky Snack (Talk) 08:26, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Randykitty (talk) 15:28, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Rhosddu United Y.F.C.[edit]

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Been uncited for years, but this is simply a non-notable youth club from Wales. Fails WP:GNG and WP:FOOTYN. Onel5969 TT me 12:14, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to List of Gilligan's Island characters. Anything worth merging is available from the article history. Randykitty (talk) 15:28, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Gilligan's Island Cast[edit]

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There already exists List of Gilligan's Island characters where all the cast information is provided. The subject of that list is character instead of cast, though. If some information in this article is not given in that list, content can be merged. A redirect can be considered but I am not sure if it is suitable. Prod was declined by author. But I would sincerely suggest the author choose to work on and improve that list. 94rain Talk 10:45, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Randykitty (talk) 15:26, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Anand Chandrasekaran[edit]

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Delete Fails the criteria for notability. A technology executive hoping to up their profile. References are primarily announcements and are not considered for establishing notability. Fails WP:BLP. HighKing++ 10:38, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to Chumbawamba. Randykitty (talk) 15:21, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Agit-Prop Records[edit]

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Unsourced NCORP fail. Cannot find anything more in sourcing. Not to be confused wit the similarly named Agitprop! Records ThatMontrealIP (talk) 04:25, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Sandstein 10:27, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Acme Records[edit]

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NCORP fail. Not to be confused with numerous Acme Records stores and other similarly named record labels. ThatMontrealIP (talk) 04:20, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Randykitty (talk) 15:19, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

100% Records[edit]

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NCORP fail. Tagged for sourcing since 2015. Cannot find adequate RS in a search. ThatMontrealIP (talk) 04:17, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Randykitty (talk) 15:12, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Valea Făgetului River (Misir)[edit]

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The article is probably a hoax. The river does not exist on maps or in its vicinity. Apart from that, it has no information other than it exists. Oshawott 12 ==()== Talk to me! 04:04, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Well that's something - thanks! I couldn't verify whether it even existed either. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 01:50, 12 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I agree. I'm not sure this is a useful redirect but redirects are cheap so no big deal. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 02:23, 12 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect to Aztlán. Any mergeable content is available from the article history. Randykitty (talk) 15:08, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Flag of Aztlán[edit]

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This article seems to lack notability and is poorly sourced. Potentially merge information with the larger topic of Aztlán Garuda28 (talk) 20:45, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I have, because I haven't done the work yet and may not get round to it before this discussion is closed, no comment about whether this should be kept as a separate article, but if it is merged then I would suggest that Chicano Movement might be a better target. Phil Bridger (talk) 20:55, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Randykitty (talk) 15:06, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Dave Hamilton (author)[edit]

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Author, heavily promotional article with a list of their book titles but a distinct lack of secondary sourcing to indicate WP:BLPN. Created years back by a WP:SPA, possibly WP:COI too.

Today it appeared (and why I was influenced to AfD it) as a link from Frome, where it's dubious per WP:UNDUE, see [13] Andy Dingley (talk) 15:40, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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@E.M.Gregory: Hamilton and his brother and the authors of The Self-Sufficient-ish Bible, which "has received reviews from publications including Library Journal, Resource Magazine, and Publishers Weekly". All of the reviews are cited in the article on the book. MarkZusab (talk) 21:47, 3 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • In response to User:Coolabahapple's concerns, I ran a couple of quick searches and added some sources. While there are some book reviews, he gets coverage more often as a feature story: clambering though little-known ancient ruins, foraging wild plants for food, being a minor guru of the sulf-sufficiency (grow your own food) movement.)E.M.Gregory (talk) 11:04, 5 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. No evidence has been presented that this is "one of the most prominent representatives of a notable style or the most prominent of the local scene", apart from GOOGLEHITS. Randykitty (talk) 15:01, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Heavens Connection[edit]

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Less important music group fails WP:BAND. →Enock4seth (talk) 18:10, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Search google for Ghanaian+Gospel+rap to find out... is not a large genre, making this group more notable.--Epiphyllumlover (talk) 18:17, 8 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Searching under those criteria doesn't bring up a single mention of this group, except on Wikipedia mirrors. Richard3120 (talk) 20:59, 9 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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WP:GOOGLEHITS. What good source exists that verifies that extraordinary claim, keeping in mind that Ghanaian Gospel rap is not a notable style. duffbeerforme (talk) 12:27, 16 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. I would like to ask participants in AfD debates to keep their comments at a reasonable length. Admins really have not the time (nor usually the inclination) to go through dozens of external links. Please realize that to keep an article it is sufficient to give only a few good sources. I would encourage especially De-Stavness to familiarize them with WP:RS. Thanks. Randykitty (talk) 14:59, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Graylog[edit]

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A non-notable startup with little to no coverage in reliable independent sources. Nothing unique about it and does not compare to the industry leaders like Splunk(which basically does the same thing at a scale 100x). Daiyusha (talk) 01:28, 30 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi let's not be too hasty with deleting this article, please. I have some information for you that I hope will change your mind.

1. ---> "A non-notable startup with little to no coverage in reliable independent sources" Graylog is consistently mentioned alongside Splunk and is reliably in the top 5-10 when discussing the top log management companies. A quick Google search will tell you that.

Look through some of these links, these sources below which are considered to be very reliable and independent.

2. ---> "Nothing unique about it" There are many unique aspects. I can add in an extra paragraph about why Graylog is unique if you think that will help improve the quality of the article. I don't this it is reasonable to request outright deletion over this, perhaps do you have a suggestion or constructive criticism on this?

3. ---> "does not compare to the industry leaders like Splunk(which basically does the same thing at a scale 100x)" - Sir, people are having this conversation all the time. DevOps teams, sysadmins & others are comparing Graylog to Splunk legitimately. For many businesses, they can't pay the high cost to have Splunk so they look to other more affordable options (open source or enterprise). Again, there are pros and cons to both, but there is nothing wrong with including a comparison if that conversation is already being had.

Here are links to notable reliable 3rd party sources where these comparisons are happening all the time:

Splunk is clearly the leader in the log management space, nobody disputes this. Just because Splunk happens to be the leader in the space doesn't mean Graylog should be banned from Wikipedia or make Graylog any less legitimate. You seem to be very concerned about mentioning Splunk in the article. Is there anything wrong with that?

I am asking for you to reconsider this deletion request and instead tell me where you think this article needs to be adjusted. This is a legitimate company that is well known in the log management space and deserves to be on Wikipedia.

Thank you I look forward to working with you and the other editors to make this article better. De-Stavness (talk) 05:43, 30 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: People will have a discussion for about a week, and If people find sources that are supportive, your article stays. That said, there are a lot of problems with most sources you mentioned .I've marked the reason why they aren't reliable enough, Please don't be offended. Wikipedia usually asks for multiple independent, reliable sources for companies. Daiyusha (talk) 06:57, 30 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Thank you for your feedback. I've put together another list of sources that I believe to be reliable and independent. I've included a mix of sources from education and governmental websites, to news sources, and to articles mentioning the company or product in a significant way. Graylog has international users/clients so some of the sources come from all around the globe.

Again there are more mentions and sources I am just trying to find what you consider legitimate. Please look these through and let me know what you think. Thank you.

In the news

Articles where Graylog is the focus

Education mentions

Goverment mentions

Award Graylog and Splunk Enterprise Security among Security Incident and Event Management Data Quadrant Gold Medalists

Wikipedia pages already linking to Graylog --> (http://docs.graylog.org/en/latest/pages/gelf.html)

Graylog has been around since 2009 so there are a lot or sources I am just trying to find the ones you will consider to be the most important. Thank you and I am looking forward to the discussion.

De-Stavness (talk) 17:21, 30 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]


I thought this was a solid independent/reliable article as well. Not a comparison article:

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The result was redirect to Revere, Massachusetts. Any content worth merging is available from the article history. Randykitty (talk) 14:53, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Beachmont, Massachusetts[edit]

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A neighborhood with no particular separate notability. Qwirkle (talk) 02:26, 30 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. Randykitty (talk) 14:51, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Shin Miyata[edit]

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Notable: Fails GNG, ANYBIO, and all NMUSIC criteria. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 01:26, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Well, it seems like while there are many ... debatable sources here, there are also some sources that have gone uncontested and are claimed to support WP:GNG/WP:NEO (as pointed out by WP:NEXIST, even sources that aren't currently used in the article can establish notability). Some proposals for mergers and redirections have been made, not receiving enough support for a consensus in their favour. So keep, but if people still want a merger they can start a talk page discussion to that effect. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 11:23, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Call-out culture[edit]

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The article is about a neologism that has little or no usage in reliable sources. Not an established terminology. Not an encyclopedic subject. Cited sources are poor or do not support statements. Wikipedia is not a dictionary Bacondrum (talk) 08:57, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Not canvasing, just hoping to get experienced and uninvolved editors opinions here. Literally pinging in the 7 editors with the most edits: @Ser Amantio di Nicolao, Koavf, Rich Farmbrough, BD2412, Materialscientist, Tom.Reding, and BrownHairedGirl: I don't believe this article belongs on wikipedia. It is poorly written , poorly cited, it is a neologism and wikipedia is not a dictionary. What do you lot think?. Bacondrum (talk) 02:13, 18 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete The article is about a neologism that has little or no usage in reliable sources. There are no reliable sources that mention the subject. Bacondrum (talk) 09:03, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination appears to be a failed WP:BEFORE.E.M.Gregory (talk) 12:56, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Also, the pings in the nomination seem to be completely nonsensical at best and malicious/canvassing at worst. There is basically zero overlap with the editors listed at the xtools.wmflabs.org entry for the article. Why is that? - PaulT+/C 04:49, 17 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Note for context, the above paragraph was originally: Not canvasing, just hoping to get experienced and uninvolved editors opinions here as I don't believe this article belongs on wikipedia by any stretch of the imagination, it is not an established terminology. Not an encyclopedic subject. Cited sources are poor or do not support statements. Literally pinging in the 8 editors with the most edits: @Ser Amantio di Nicolao: @Koavf: @Rich Farmbrough: @BD2412: @Materialscientist: @Tom.Reding: @BrownHairedGirl: @Bearcat: What do you lot think?. - PaulT+/C 05:23, 18 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Reliable sourced do exist, for example: Hearing Vocation Differently: Meaning, Purpose, and Identity in the Multi-Faith Academy , David Cunningham, Oxford University Press. pp. 46 ff. [15]E.M.Gregory (talk) 11:44, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Please, feel free to improve the article by adding reliable sources you find. Bacondrum (talk) 22:07, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep but RENAME "Social media mob", a more common term for the same phenomenon (also known as "social media mobbing".) Good soruces do exist, including: Amanda Hess, New York Times, 2018 : https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/07/magazine/some-online-mobs-are-vicious-others-are-perfectly-rational.html].E.M.Gregory (talk) 11:36, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Op-eds are primary sources, this is a primary sources not a reliable source for statements of fact. Bacondrum (talk) 22:18, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • It is not an op-ed, article is labeled: "Amanda Hess is a critic at large for The New York Times," and, as you say, the opinions of notable literary critics like Amanda Hess can be used to build a page.E.M.Gregory (talk) 01:35, 17 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
"The system of pseudo-peer-reviewing on Tumblr is called a “call-out culture,” where users will police the posts that they feel do not align with Tumblr’s need for inclusivity. “Call-out” culture can be positive in its system of checks and balances because it derails the spread of misinformation, but this policing is generally assumed to be negative due to the aggression from which “calling-out” stems. While “call-out” culture is a double-edged sword, it is ultimately a practice of consciousness-raising partly because of the publicity that stems from the arguments, but mostly because the internet is made into a forum for debate and education."
Undergraduate student essay. Not a reliable source. Bacondrum (talk) 22:18, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
There are other sources that give similar definitions and are enough to sustain notability (e.g., 1 2 3). My main concern is that Online shaming covers similar ground (although not the actual culture so maybe there's room for two articles). FOARP (talk) 13:01, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The first two appear to be reliable sources, please feel free to improve the article using them, the last one is an op-ed and is thus unreliable in this context. Bacondrum (talk) 22:24, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hoo, boy. I thought that this page was paltry, but Online shaming is even worse (no attempt to define or to source the term/concept; subheads without sources; long list of subheaded but non -bluelinked "examples") . It is also not a search term I had though of, although I had searched for an article on this topic just yesterday, and failed to find one. On the other hand, our article on Doxing is surprisingly good, proving that we could turn this into a good page. User:FOARP, do we discuss what to do with Online shaming there, here, or somewhere else?E.M.Gregory (talk) 14:07, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Well, if it is decided that merge is a better option than keep, then we can talk about what to merge this article to or whether other articles should be merged into this one. If Online shaming needs deleting then it should be AFD'd. Otherwise page quality issues are for the talk page. I think you're right that the problems with Online shaming seem worse than those for Call-out culture. There's also the related concept of Cyberbullying but again that seems a related, but not identical, phenomenon. FOARP (talk) 18:37, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I wouldn't oppose keeping the page if it was significanty improved, when I first came across it the page was horrendous and virtually unintelligible, the current version is certainly "paltry", to put it mildly. As it stands the page should be deleted. Bacondrum (talk) 22:43, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I agree online shaming is a shocker of a page, but at least it contains some reliable, secondary sources and the secondary sources appear to be authored by people with relevant expertise. Bacondrum (talk) 22:48, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Could you possibly direct us to a single reliable source used in the article? (keeping in mind that an op-ed is not a reliable source for a neologism)Bacondrum (talk) 22:02, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The state of referencing in the article is not key to deciding whether the article should be deleted or not. There are multiple reliable sources discussing the concept of "Callout culture". For example, here, Dr. Ealasaid Munro, a lecturer in Communications, Media, and Culture at the University of Stirling, defines "Callout culture" as one "in which sexism or misogyny can be called out and challenged ... facilitat[ing] the creation of a global community of feminists who use the Internet both for discussion and activism" (quoted here). Similarly here, Prof. Michael Berube, a Professor of Literature at Penn State University, states that "In so- cial media, what is known as “callout culture” and “ally theater” (in which people demonstrate their bona fides as allies of a vulnerable population) often produces a swell of online outrage that demands that a post or a tweet be taken down or deleted". There are other such references easily findable through a GScholar search and otherwise, and other references are already provided above. It does not matter that these references are not yet included in the article. FOARP (talk) 07:37, 15 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
It is not mine or any other editors job to find citations to back other editors assertions. If you find reliable sources and you can improve the article then by all means, do it. As it stood and as it currently stands the article is not encyclopedic, cites sources that are poor, inappropriate and\or do not support statements. I personally had never heard of "callout culture” till I came across the Call-out culture link in a see also section. I'd never heard of “ally theater" at all until now. Bacondrum (talk) 07:47, 15 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, it is the nominator's job to confirm whether a page should be deleted before nominating it. No, it does not matter that the references are not yet included in the article. No, it does not matter that you've never heard of it. FOARP (talk) 08:10, 15 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Not an established terminology. Not an encyclopedic subject. Cited sources are poor or do not support statements. I found no sources, I can't possibly know of them all. Improve the article. if you know better, do better. Bacondrum (talk) 08:18, 15 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
There's some serious "Didn't hear that" going on here. How much more of an WP:RS do you get than scholarly articles by established academics in reputable journals? Again, the present state of the article doesn't matter for AFD - it's the possible state that matters. FOARP (talk) 08:23, 15 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia is not a dictionary I heard you, I searched for sources in good faith, it is you who is not listing: I found no sources (and I spent a good amount of my precious time doing so), I couldn't find a single article or paper that even mentioned the term. I can't possibly know of all papers or articles in existence. If you found a quality source, improve the article and it may no longer warrant deletion. Improve the article. If you know better, do better. Or perhaps you are here pushing the term? I dunno? All I know is that I came to read an article and it was very hard to make sense of, pretty much a POV, right-wing biased rant about how terrible feminists are and was structured like a dogs breakfast, I tried to improve it, but found all citations were op-eds, it's a neologism and doesn't belong here as far as I can see, happy to be proved wrong. Bacondrum (talk) 09:18, 15 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I made the nomination in good faith, and you should assume as much. Poor form. Care to point out a reliable source in the version as it was? It's a neologism and wikipedia is not a dictionary, the article also lacked even a single reliable citation. Bacondrum (talk) 01:17, 18 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
There are several, but the first one I saw (that has since been removed) is: Danuta Walters, Suzanna (5 May 2017). "Academe's Poisonous Call-Out Culture". The Chronicle of Higher Education. Retrieved 21 October 2017. Another (that is still present) is: Friedersdorf, Conor (2017-05-08). "The Destructiveness of Call-Out Culture on Campus". The Atlantic. Retrieved 2019-05-14. I stand by my point: to suggest the term(s) have "little or no usage in reliable sources" is bunk. As is your assertion that the article also lacked even a single reliable citation. Articles by Suzanna Danuta Walters in The Chronicle of Higher Education and Conor Friedersdorf in The Atlantic both easily qualify as reliable secondary sources for a neologism (not to mention the subsequent sources that others have identified above), and that was just in the opening paragraph of the first merged version of the article that I linked to above. - PaulT+/C 04:14, 18 May 2019 (UTC) Also, removing 95% of an article and then saying it lacks sources in an AfD is pretty egregious. - PaulT+/C 04:19, 18 May 2019 (UTC) Also also, doing stuff like this is a bad idea. Do not change your statements after people have already responded to them per WP:REDACTED. - PaulT+/C 05:14, 18 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Not reliable sources for a neologism. They are op-eds, primary sources. Bacondrum (talk) 04:26, 19 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Also also, "a single article encompassing all of these terms could suffice. (Indeed that was the point of merging cancel culture and call-out culture.) Until such a time as that centralized article about the general phenomenon"... you had it right the first time, it is a term, not a phenomena, a phenomena is an event or an occurrence...this is a big part of the problem with this article, the subject is not being clearly defined and calling it a phenomena is misleading. Calling a term a phenomenon is clearly pushing the term and biased in it's presentation of said term. Entirely cited using op-eds, it is therefor 100% POV.Bacondrum (talk) 09:41, 19 May 2019 (UTC)— Preceding unsigned comment added by Bacondrum (talkcontribs) 04:39, 19 May 2019 (UTC)Stop editing comments after others have replied per WP:REDACTED. Changing the time is not apropriate. If you don't know how to fix something, ask how to fix it. Don't make it worse. - PaulT+/C 15:33, 19 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Firstly (1), you are 100% mistaken about The Atlantic: Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 240#Is Conor Friedersdorf and the Atlantic a Reliable Source?. (And, in fairness, I was mistaken about the The Chronicle of Higher Education article being a secondary source, as it is from The Chronicle Review, but that doesn't change the fact that it is a RS: Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 117#The Chronicle of Higher Education. It just happens to be a primary source in this case.) Regardless, as established by many other editors here, there are reliable (primary and secondary) sources for the article. Furthermore, just because a source is a primary source does not mean it needs to be summarily removed from the article.
Secondly (2), call-out culture, cancel culture and outrage culture are all terms (each one being an individual "term") that describe the same/a very similar type of behavior or phenomenon. There are a series of similar terms/articles (inclusive of the three above) that each describe similar behaviors/phenomena: e.g. outrage porn/outrage media/outrage journalism, Milkshake Duck, public shaming, online shaming, online boycott, cyberbullying, mobbing, mob justice, moral panic, and likely others. I don't know how you managed to lose sight of that in what I wrote. I thought it was fairly clear.
Regarding some kind of merger (3), WP:NEO states: In a few cases, there will be notable topics which are well-documented in reliable sources, but for which no accepted short-hand term exists. It can be tempting to employ a neologism in such a case. Instead, it is preferable to use a title that is a descriptive phrase in plain English if possible, even if this makes for a somewhat long or awkward title. In this case there are a great many "short-hand term[s]" all describing very similar things. I would support some kind of merged page with "a descriptive phrase in plain English" that encompasses the described phenomena (across more than just the "culture" terms) generally, but I don't think this is the proper venue for hashing that kind of thing out.
Finally (4), I'd like to kindly ask you to stop your disruptive editing at the article in question. You are right at the WP:3RR threshold. (123 each restoring this addition of the ((neologism)) template.)
P.S. Why was this AfD listed as the 2nd nomination. I can't find the 1st one. Does it exist? - PaulT+/C 08:21, 19 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
"Conor Friedersdorf and the Atlantic a Reliable Source?" not as a primary source (op-ed) about a neologism. Not at all. Thanks for acknowledging the other source is not good enough, now we are making some progress, I hope you understand the rest of the citations used are also primary sources.
"Regardless, as established by many other editors here, there are reliable (primary and secondary) sources for the article" kindly point one out then. There are none as far as I can see, all op-eds, 100% of them.
"I thought it was fairly clear" not at all. You lot keep saying there are secondary sources, but there are none. If other editors have found some I'd ask them to improve the article.
"I would support some kind of merged page" I'd possibly support the term being mentioned on a page about social media terms more broadly...I might not oppose this page as a stand alone if it can be demonstrated that the subject is encyclopedic, the page is edited into a well written, clear and reliably cited article, or it is demonstrated that it's more than just a passing fad or a term a handful of university activists or op-ed writers have used - remembering that Wikipedia is not a dictionary.
I've switched out the neologism template for the primary source template, it should not be removed until the issues have been addressed, namely the complete lack of secondary source, secondly the need to establish that this is an encyclopedic subject. I have no axe to grind here, the page is just nothing like an encyclopedic entry, primary sources are not reliable for this subject even if it can be demonstrated that it is encyclopedic. It absolutely needs to be improved or removed. I'm interested as to why editors who claim to have secondary sources have not improved the article, looks like pushing a particular view or the term itself to me. Bacondrum (talk) 09:20, 19 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
"Why was this AfD listed as the 2nd nomination." I can't find it either, my mistake. I must have gotten mixed up with another article I was looking at or something. Bacondrum (talk) 09:26, 19 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Mistakes happen to everyone (including myself as I noted above), but perhaps you should recognize that you have been making a lot of mistakes with this article and begin to self-reflect. My responses to your previous comments are below:
Para1: There is nothing wrong with using reliable primary sources in support of specific points in the article as long as they are properly attributed. You keep on removing these points simply because they are primary sources without any regard for their reliability. Please stop.
Para2: Here are several (and I'm sure there are more):
They have been pointed out to you multiple times but you just seem to ignore them. The fact that they exist and discuss the term is enough to satisfy WP:NEO, and therefore the article should be kept.
Para3: Stop twisting my words. The sources I listed above are already in the article and you keep asserting there are none. Furthermore, this does not mean that reliable primary sources are completely worthless on their own.
Para4: Well, lucky for everyone, we don't need to satisfy you in particular, especially since you are being disruptive.
Para5: This could be interpreted as a self-revert, except that it shows that you are continuing to edit disruptively. In fact, it was noted at this edit warring report that you have done this at this article in the past. Please stop and gain consenses for your edits if they are disputed going forward. - PaulT+/C 15:23, 19 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, that's exactly what an neologism is, a new term, often created by combining words. Bacondrum (talk) 04:31, 19 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. I am not sure what "111 user review" is supposed to mean but as noted by others citing e.g WP:SUSTAINED news coverage alone is not always enough to justify an article, and the consensus here leans into the direction that it is not enough in this case. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 11:15, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

2019 East London mosque shooting[edit]

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WP:NOTNEWS + not a killing (shooting blanks in front of the mosque. WikiHannibal (talk) 08:52, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment - the general principle I meant was from NOTNEWS: "Wikipedia considers the enduring notability of persons and events." WP:NEWSEVENT would have been more precise. Many crimes get coverage from multiple reliable sources but that does not mean all such are topics for an encyclopedia. WikiHannibal (talk) 07:03, 15 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 10:21, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Miami Air Flight 293[edit]

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WP:GNG for one WP:NOTNEWS for another. Wikipedia is not a repository for articles on trivial everyday occurrences which have noe notability or lasting impact. Runway excursions are an everyday occurrence and would only become notable for other reasons like loss of life or a notable person being involved. Petebutt (talk) 08:05, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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@Mjroots: Is it a hull loss? I'm not seeing that anywhere. If so, it should be added to the article and would probably sway me to keep, but I'm on the fence at the moment. RecycledPixels (talk) 06:39, 15 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Aviation Safety Network currently states "substantial damage". Given that the aircraft has been immersed in seawater and is 18 years old, it's almost certainly a constructive total loss. Mjroots (talk) 06:46, 15 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I found a reference that said the plane will be scrapped after the NTSB finishes its investigation and added it. RecycledPixels (talk) 15:51, 15 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was speedy delete. -- Ed (Edgar181) 12:27, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sarwan Ali Palejo[edit]

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This is a recreation of Sarwan_Ali_Palijo (Only admin can create now). (Other likely related pages Asad Ali Palijo, Asad Ali Palejo.) Very likely created by LTA Asad_Ali_Palijo. A7 persistently removed by suspected socks (Behavior evidence from their user page edit) 94rain Talk 07:51, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. While the keep arguments are a bit thin - it's usually useful if you actually show the sources - some of them have been shown and went uncontested. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 10:23, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Mansfield Building Society[edit]

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Small local business with four locations; does not meet WP:NCORP. Refs & ELs are all primary sources/directory listings. Unable to find significant in-depth coverage in RS. Searching finds many business-listings and at least one press-release, but no independent coverage. MB 14:02, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Tone 17:27, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

KiSel-10[edit]

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I cannot see why this clinical trial is noteworthy. The refs are to stuff by the researchers and there is no reason given as to why it should be considered remarkable. TheLongTone (talk) 14:04, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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  • I've got six publications that are cited in 100 other articles. None of them are remotely notable. -- Ed (Edgar181) 23:30, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
This is essentially an argument for expanding the Coenzyme Q10 article, not for keeping this one.TheLongTone (talk) 13:30, 8 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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- The foremost reason for why this article is noteworthy and should remain on Wikipedia is that it addresses not only longevity but also health-related quality of life for senior citizens. People who encounter the term "KiSel-10" may want to look it up in Wikipedia to find a non-biased summary of the results from the study. Morrillr (talk) 09:01, 15 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. But tag for maintenance Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 11:12, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Cycleswap[edit]

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Conflict of interest, full of irrelevant (non encyclopedic) material and dropping of unknown names. It could be relevant but the article should be completely rewritten. Phrases like Joran Iedema realized a great demand for rental bikes existed are completely inappropriate for the encyclopedia. — Zanaq (?) 17:13, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to Provinces of Thailand. Randykitty (talk) 14:39, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

List of capitals in Thailand[edit]

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There is no such thing as the concept of a province "capital" in Thailand. Originally, this listed the towns/cities the provinces were named after (and which served as the seat of the provincial offices), but as the offices of some provinces have moved location, this has morphed into an WP:OR listing of municipalities in which the offices are located, labelling them as "capitals" where no reliable source does. It's absurd to say Ban Tom is the capital of Phayao Province and Bang Rin of Ranong. Paul_012 (talk) 05:45, 14 May 2019 (UTC) See also Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2019 May 14#Template:Capitals of provinces of Thailand. --Paul_012 (talk) 05:59, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy keep. Nominator has been indefinitely blocked and for quite-related reasons. The notability of the subject is not in doubt and the article can be subject to routine editorial processes as to weeding out the BLP issues. (non-admin closure) WBGconverse 06:23, 15 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Me Too movement (India)[edit]

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The article contains strong WP:BLP concerns, the majority of the article is about specific allegations. If all of these BLP issues are rectified, there would be little meaningful content left on the article. --Eng. M.Bandara-Talk 05:30, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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So I think it's important to keep it as it is a valid and notable social movement, but edit any BLP concerns (within reason - as even in the original Me Too article, personal examples and names were used factually to illustrate points) as needed and make it read more professionally. Rush922(talk) 11:34, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • CommentRush922 If the original article contains BLP issue that isn't grounds for this article to have it, I haven't seen the original article, if it has unsubstantiated claims that could cause libel issues for Wikipedia those claims should be challenged and removed. --Eng. M.Bandara-Talk 23:21, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. T. Canens (talk) 06:07, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Michael Copeland (mayor)[edit]

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Does not appear to satisfy WP:NPOLITICIAN / WP:NBIO nor WP:GNG. TheSandDoctor Talk 05:21, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Though this has somewhat low input, the points made by editors as to the notability of the subject would appear to support their arguments of keeping the article. (non-admin closure) EggRoll97 (talk) 14:32, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Joseph O. Legaspi[edit]

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Fails WP:BIO; lack of significant coverage by secondary sources. Blackguard 05:08, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Editors need to be carefull not to re/misinterpret notability guidelines that have been developed by consensus over a number of years ie. "work has not "won significant critical attention"", that is not what the notability guideline no. 3 says, it states: "multiple independent periodical articles or reviews" which is what i have provided above. Coolabahapple (talk) 12:44, 19 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. Withdrawn (non-admin closure) Mhhossein talk 19:20, 16 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Richard Collins (actor)[edit]

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I can't find any significant coverage for this actor. His most significant role only appeared in 13 out of 106 episodes of Trailer Park Boys. Two of the sources are dead and the only one that still works is about his death. Fails WP:GNG, WP:BASIC and WP:NACTOR. Mysticair667537 (talk) 04:11, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Randykitty (talk) 14:25, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Maxim Cheeran[edit]

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Does not pass NPROF. Natureium (talk) 19:36, 6 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: This one-sentence "article" leaves much to be desired, but according to Google Scholar he is cited 2345 times.[30] --Tataral (talk) 22:09, 6 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. With the caveat that the producing company may be notable (per bd2412); if stuff from this page is needed to write a page on the company requests can be made on WP:REFUND Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 10:13, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Moomba (boat manufacturer)[edit]

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Well merge really, and redirect. Seems to me not really notable in its worn right. Slatersteven (talk) 14:11, 6 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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@Slatersteven: What makes this article less than notable? If this is altered, shouldn't we take out Ski Nautique (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ski_Nautique) for its lack of sources and its "advertising" tone? Regardless of that, how is this merged? Thanks. Pga48 (talk) 14:30, 6 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I have no idea, I have not looked at it, so lets look, nope this should not exist either, and I hope its gets nominated for AFD. But its existence is not a valid reason to keep this, two wrongs do not make a right.Slatersteven (talk) 14:33, 6 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Slatersteven: Right then, thanks, mate. Pga48 (talk) 14:38, 6 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Spartaz Humbug! 05:06, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Abelhaleem Hasan Abdelraziq Ashqar[edit]

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This subject fails the WP:BLP1E test. All sources indicate he was a minor figure in this event. Technically, he passes WP:NPROF, but it is impossible to write a NPOV article on this subject because there is nothing else that can be reliable sourced about him. NPROF is a guideline and not a rule. It has exceptions and I believe this is one of them. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 00:01, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not WP:FILIBUSTER. I did BEFORE but, unlike you, I was trying to write a WP:BLPBALANCED article. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 19:35, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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You mean you duplicated entire paragraphs multiple times? Ok ... nableezy - 16:41, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed, you only proved that it impossible to write a NPOV article about a living person based on the coverage available about him. The case is regarded as demonstrating the difficulty of convicting individuals who assist militants... and Although Ashqar was recorded discussing violent attacks... are each repeated three times. He was convicted for refusing to testify for crying out loud. Everything else he did was technically legal. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 19:35, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • I have copyedited the page which had several instances where the sources were misattributed to some other organization. I will assume good faith chalk that up to several mistakes. However, the article still relies almost entirely on this source. We have no idea if this article was retracted but it does not appear anywhere on The Washington Post website. This article still fails WP:BLP1E. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 20:50, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
As for your assertion that you corrected "the L.A. Times masked as the Chicago Tribune). What you did was miss the fact that this was a Chicago Tribune story that the Los Angeles Times also printed. And erase it. The Chicago Tribune should appear in the cite as the "Agency". My apologies if I misformatted it. I do at least try to credit the correct newspaper.E.M.Gregory (talk) 21:14, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The WaPo article is easily accessed via proquest, where I read it. It is a detailed biographical profile of Ashqar: (Palestinian Puzzle; A Business Professor in Springfield Goes on Trial Today On U.S. Charges of Supporting Hamas. He Strongly Denies It.: [FINAL Edition],Mary Beth Sheridan - Washington Post Staff Writer. The Washington Post; Washington, D.C. [Washington, D.C]19 Oct 2006: B.1. ). Mary Beth Sheridan is still at WaPo, and she's on twitter, if you truly think I made this up go ahead and ask her if she wrote this 2006 profile.E.M.Gregory (talk) 21:05, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
There is extensive coverage of his presidential bid (in Arabic as well) - we are at 2E at least, not 1E. If we were at 1E, the correct move would be to rename for the notable criminal case, but we aren't there.Icewhiz (talk) 21:10, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Please cite them. That is exactly what is needed to prove notability, which I don't see at this time. People run for office all the time and that does not mean their candidacy is notable. Otherwise, this should be deleted. The person's notability is right now entirely inherited from the court case involving three people not just Ashqar. This page as been in violation of BLP for years.--- Coffeeandcrumbs 21:28, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Washington Post: Va. Man Certified as Candidate to Replace Arafat.E.M.Gregory (talk) 22:02, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Still inherited notability from concurrent criminal proceedings. If you read the article, it has little to do with the candidacy. His candidacy is a coatrack for The Washington Post to repurpose their previous coverage. Also note that Howard University is in Washington, D.C. Of course, the local paper latched on to this. See for example these sources which shows that his notability was inherited from the fact that he was accused of a crime when he ran for office. Separating his candidacy into a stub section shows desperation to keep this page no matter what. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 22:33, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Ashqar placed 8th, with 2.68% of the vote. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 22:34, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nah. It shows that the candidacy was covered in newspapers in Israel, Australia, Britain and the United States. The British, Israeli, and Aussie papers that I cited/read do not even mention the arrest.E.M.Gregory (talk) 22:40, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
"Covered" or mentioned in passing? Without seeing the sources I cannot judge that he was not just listed among the 8 or more candidates. Can you quote from the sources you cited please? Assuming good faith, I am sure the subject was mentioned. But I have serious doubts that his candidacy was "covered" without also covering his concurrent criminal case. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 22:48, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Also link to ProQuest so people with access can assess the sources not available elsewhere. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 22:55, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
We enter BLP 3E with his prison hunger strikes. The first was in 1998, when he refused to testify against Mousa Mohammed Abu Marzook in a New York Court.E.M.Gregory (talk) 23:10, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
In your desperation to keep the page, you have introduce so much unsourced material. I have also lost any ability to assume good faith in you since you don't link to the sources AND you add things not in sources when I locate them. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 23:23, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I do this kind of sourcing for several articles a month that come to AfD poorly sourced, but that appear to me to be notable topics. Sometimes I do several a week. I do not feel "desperate" about this one. More like intrigued. What is unusual is to meet an editor so determined to challenge solid sourcing. Please remove the failed verification tags from the Reuters article about the 1998 prison fast that ran in the Washington Post and that is plainly visible in a Proquest Newspaper search. E.M.Gregory (talk) 23:31, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Just because you have previously used original research to filibuster deletions does not mean it was a good thing. I have pointed out many instances now of where you, I assume through lack skill, have introduced content that is not in the sources you cite. I give up, you have succeeded by WP:REFBOMB. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 23:36, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Place 4th is the presidential elections. We have multiple in-depthmsources for this subject spanning 2 decades.Icewhiz (talk) 03:48, 15 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
e.g. - This Springer book - pages 279-280 - covering one of his hunger strikes.Icewhiz (talk) 07:31, 15 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I'll also note that we are at least at 3E - the case from 1998 - in which his hunger strike is widely covered, the case from 2003+ (with a second long hunger strike), and the presidential campaign. Icewhiz (talk) 07:35, 15 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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