Aotearoa New Zealand Online Meetup 25[edit]


Meetup Code of Conduct and Anonymity when Meeting Via Video Conference[edit]

All attendees are expected to understand and abide by the Draft Universal Code of Conduct for the Wikimedia Movement.

This video conferencing meetup is a replacement for an in-person meetup. While attending and remaining anonymous is supported by the group, lurking is not supported and will be actively discouraged. All attendees are expected to use their User name as an identifier on the video conference call and to introduce themselves and their interest in joining the call on the chat channel of the call as a minimum. Participation using video and / or voice in addition to Chat is encouraged but not required.

Some members of the group have been the target of cyber bullying in the past and these measures are intended to support creating a safe space for collaboration.

If a new attendee joins the group with video and voice disabled, they will be encouraged to participate by the facilitator, using this script:

Welcome new attendee. This group respects your right to remain anonymous. This group has a policy of discouraging lurking as it makes some of us uncomfortable. If you are happy to introduce yourself over voice, please let us know what you've been working on and if you need help with any editing issues.
If you're not comfortable updating the group by voice, then that's okay. You have the option of introducing yourself and adding your user page link into the chat feature. The chat is deleted once the video conference finishes.
If you want to remain completely anonymous and not chat, then this meetup is not for you. We make comprehensive and extensive notes of the meetup that will be included in the meetup page afterwards. That's the best way to catch up with what this meetup has been doing if you don't want to contribute during the video call.
If you're not sure how to use the chat feature you can access it by clicking on the icon that looks like a speech bubble in the bottom left corner.

If, after an appropriate length of time, the new attendee does not participate by video, voice, or chat, the facilitator of the group will remove the attendee from the video call.

If the new attendee persists in logging in, the group will discuss abandoning the meet up.

Chat for sharing pastes, URLs and so on[edit]

The Jitsi video conferencing platform has a chat feature. This is used to share URLs and other commentary while the discussions are occurring. The facilitators may take a copy to help with writing up outcomes from the meeting on the meeting Wikipedia page. Any copies will be deleted once outcomes and notes are completed.

Future Meetups[edit]

This is a monthly event running every 4 weeks, but double check the Aotearoa New Zealand Online page to confirm.

Join the Wikimedia User Group of Aotearoa New Zealand to be kept informed.

Also see Wikipedia:New Zealand Wikipedians' notice board for discussion relevant to New Zealand Wikipedians.

People[edit]

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Agenda and notes[edit]

1. Introduction to meet up by organisers

2. Wikimedia User Group of Aoteaora New Zealand Update and Discussion (15 minutes)

Comms Channels
Wikimedia Aotearoa New Zealand Inc (WANZ) update
Wiki-Con Weekends, Editathons, Events and Outreach in 2022
Don't forget to add your program to the Dashboard. The Dashboard is a key tracking tool for reporting back to Wikimedia Foundation and will help us ensure that we get funding in future years. If you are unsure how to add programs to the Campaign dashboard contact: Ambrosia10 (talk) on her talk page.
  • New Zealand Wikidata Thesis Project aims to get New Zealand dissertations into Wikidata. Project Page, Project Dashboard. There is a google spreasheet of theses authors with Wikipedia pages who need their theses adding to their page if folk want to work on this. Project Contacts: DrThneed, Giantflightlessbirds and Ambrosia10
  • 2022 June 5-10 SPNHC 2022 Upcoming conference with wiki outreach representation from Ambrosia10. Report back to the community on the conference. As usual there was more engagement and discussion with Wikidata, especially as a hub for linking various institutions identifiers as well as a public repository for people and publication data. From my anacdotal experiencethere is a community groundswell of increased knowledge about Wikidata and how it can be used to assist institutions. Particularly its use in Bionomia tracker as well as an ability to add wikidata items to Collection Management Systems to assist with disambiguating people. There were a few presentations that mentioned wikidata specifically and there was a workshop aimed at showing attendees Bionomia Tracker - a website that uses Wikidata to disambiguate collectors. I attended the workshop in order to assist attendees with their beginning steps in adding data to Wikidata. As for my virtual experience, I was really pleased about the engagement I managed to have over twitter but the platform and the administrators of the sessions struggled with engagement via the platform as a result of it being a joint virtual/in person event. I also admit struggling with the fact I had to attend this conference nocturally. It threw my sleep out for days afterwards and also there were sessions that clashed with family commitments. On the upside, unlike a lot of the physical attendees I didn't get COVID. Also my coauthored poster for the conference was very well received and got a lot of engagement both on twitter and at the conference. I may well decide to present at next years conference on a piece of Biodiversity Wiki work in order to get more engagement.
Fake Muse poster, co-authored by Ambrosia10.
  • Celtic Knot Conference 1 - 2 July - hybrid event - nocturnal NZ hours.
  • West Coast Reptiles Wikiblitz, 31 July 2022 hybrid event to be organised by Giantflightlessbirds.
  • 2022 August 11-14 Wikimania Discussion needed about NZ contribution. Funding applications open for affiliates and individuals. Apply by 3 June.
  • 2022 October Ada Lovelace Editathon, Wellington Pakoire will work with AtticEdit organising. Tentatively scheduled for weekend of 14/15 October. Still to confirm date and times.
  • 2022 November 16-18 Worlds of Wikimedia Conference, Sydney Diversity, Diaspora and Digitality
  • 2022 November 18-20 ESEAP Conference, Sydney Regional conference for the East, Southeast Asia, and Pacific.
  • 2023 February WikiCon Wellington Wellington meetup discussing where and when we could deliver this WikiCon. Ambrosia10 has had Tim Park come back about the Otari Wilton rooms. The Wifi test he did is relatively slow but an IT expert has said it should be ok for folk editing wikipedia so long as there is no video content being used.
  • Other suggestions for themes around events include Library Week, Conservation Week, International Volunteers Day, 24hr editathon for Ada Lovelace Day, WikiSource Women's History Month for Wikisource, Winter Olympics, Matariki Event, Library Week. We should think about the focus of the work - is it to onboard folk or to focus on content. Any further update?
Anything to update / discuss?

3. Wiki News – add any news from the wider Wiki movement the group may be unaware of

4. DrThneed demonstrating what wikidata description updates are occurring as a result of the New Zealand Wikidata Thesis Project. (15 minutes) Google slides for presentation. Responses from audience very positive and comments also encouraged the adding of birth and death dates.

5. Problem users – Schwede66 would like to discuss a couple of problem users (who cause very different issues). Before we get into this, we should discuss whether it is appropriate to discuss other editors who aren't present. We should then decide whether we minute the discussion. And then we can get into it. The purpose of the discussion is to explore whether a wider pool of editors should get involved to address the problems.

Editors attending this meeting agreed to discuss these issues in general rather than name specific editors and to attempt to address these issues via communication as well as by statements agreed to by the attendees. The attendees agreed to publicly documentation the decisions reached by the group.
Issue 1: Schwede66 explained that there are editors (sometimes experienced, at other times newbies) who edit the lead of an article rather than place the detailed content they are adding to the body of the article. Motivations for this editing can vary. Unfortunately this behaviour can devolve into disruptive editing when it becomes a habit of an editor or if the editor is unaware of the purpose of the lead. It can result in edit warring with reverting and re-reverting of content taking place. The group discussing this issue and expressed a desire to encourage editors making these types of edits to continue to productively edit but also wanted to ensure that these editors were educated in the appropriate use of the lead of an article. This would hopefully reduce the time spent by other editors ensuring the lead of an article is appropriate and falls within the editing guidelines and policies of English Wikipedia. As such, it was agreed that the best strategy would be to leave a gentle note on the appropriate editor's talk page explaining the issue. Giantflightlessbirds has previously drafted such notes and offered to add some general text to guide other editors wanting to undertake this: "Hi there, I've removed your section on SUBJECT from the start of the ARTICLE article because the lead is supposed to be a summary of the main body of the article; that information should really go into the SECTION section, and then be briefly summarised in the lead." It was also suggested that the editor be pointed to the WikiProject Lead Improvement Team if this appeared to be an area of interest to the editor. Agreed for Schwede to draft a generic statement here that others can contribute to, and for him to them make it specific and post it on the relevant editor's talk page.
Issue 2 : Schwede66 explained that there were often debates when New Zealand articles attempted to have a title with a dual name in English and Māori. It was Schwede66's impression that this was a time suck for some New Zealand editors working in this area. The attendees discussed this issue and agreed that the common name should be the title of the article, that this could result in a dual name becoming the appropriate title of the article where it could be shown that this is the common name of the entity, but that even if this was not the case, the dual name should be given in the lead of the article. The naming conventions policy for New Zealand language articles should be followed. Giantflightlessbirds volunteered to look at the naming conventions to check whether treatment of the dual name in the lead section is appropriate.

6. Round table for participants to say what you’re working on and if you need help to do anything or want anything demonstrated – You can add requests for help here prior to the meeting if you want

7. Review of questions raised during round table


8. Further discussion

Outcomes[edit]

Next meeting and Meetup timetables