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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz Read! Talk! 23:35, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

2022 Malian coup d'état attempt[edit]

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Per WP:NOTNEWS. The allegations that a coup was being planned are seemingly only backed by Mali's government ("Mali's military government says", by Al Jazeera, and "Mali's military junta says", by France 24), and even in the contrary it seems that the coup remained as a plot and didn't translate into action, without transcendence after two months. I also should bring into question the credibility of a military junta that itself came from a coup d'état. NoonIcarus (talk) 23:43, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - the fact that the allegations of a coup d'état were all the more necessary to write an article on this subject JanPawel2025 (talk) 11:17, 9 July 2022 (UTC) Note to closing admin: JanPawel2025 (talkcontribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this XfD. [reply]
  • Delete per WP:NOTNEWS. Two months later, we still don't have any additional information, and the only source on which all the reports are based is the junta's only communiqué made on the subject: no accounts from eyewitnesses, no names, no places... As far as I can remember, there has always been some independent witnesses of the other coup attempts in the last years, in Mali and elsewhere in West Africa. This subject doesn't have its own article on the French WP either. It was most likely just another fake created in order to stir up the anti-French sentiment, and they've gone on to something else since then. BilletsMauves (talk) 17:19, 11 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. Star Mississippi 01:46, 15 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Match wagon (disambiguation)[edit]

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Disputed speedy (G14). Page disambiguates one article plus a section of another article (referring to match wagons), but there is dispute on the page history over whether the distinction is actually a difference. That should determine whether to delete/redirect; I am taking it here to resolve the speedy dispute and get outside opinions. ChromaNebula (talk) 21:07, 23 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, a barrier vehicle and an idler flatcar are two quite different wagons each serving a different purpose. Peter Horn User talk 22:41, 23 June 2022 (UTC) Peter Horn User talk 01:33, 24 June 2022 (UTC) Peter Horn User talk 14:05, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to Eagle Township, Boone County, Indiana. Viable AtD as it's mentioned there. No clear reason against a redirect. Star Mississippi 01:47, 15 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Fox Hollow, Indiana[edit]

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This is almost impossible to search due to the name being shared with the residence of a serial killer. Maps and aerials, however, show that this is surely nothing more than a non-notable McManor development (like McMansions but smaller) from the early 1990s. Mangoe (talk) 23:31, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

What part of WP:UNDUE are you refering to? Which point of view is being discussed and not getting adequate and equal coverage? That poicy has nothing to do with this. (PS, where you grew up doesn't either). Djflem (talk) 21:37, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. There appears to be a rough consensus at the RFC, although that doesn't help in this scenario as as Elmidae pointed out, there's no redirect target that exists. This can be handled editorially at the close of the RFC and revisited if needed, but I do not see a strong consensus to maintain this as a standalone nor to remove the material. Star Mississippi 01:59, 15 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Solar eclipse of October 24, 2098[edit]

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Failure GNG: It will take 76 years for this solar eclipse to occur. At the same time, it only occurs in the waters near Antarctica, and it is a partial solar eclipse, so it has no scientific value. Q28 (talk) 22:12, 30 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was no consensus. Liz Read! Talk! 22:27, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Dragan Živadinov[edit]

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Relies on a single source. Person is not notable and should be deleted DavidEfraim (talk) 15:15, 23 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. plicit 13:08, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Samuel H. Davis (United States Army Air Service officer)[edit]

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This is the first case of over 100 year old violation of not news guidelines. However since the main coverage we have is from contemporary news reports, I still think that issue applies. I do not believe we have actual grounds to justify this article, and no actual claim to notability. Dieing in a plain crash is all we have, and that does not make someone notable. John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:55, 30 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • @DiamondRemley39: If you do find coverage via Newspapers.com, please provide a clipping so that we can see the content in question. I'd be more than happy to reassess if sources can be found via that route. - Aoidh (talk) 02:36, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    I will; I'd already found some. I can't provide clippings from other databases, if I find coverage, however. DiamondRemley39 (talk) 15:30, 8 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Other coverage I haven't and probably won't add, in English, demonstrates national and enduring interest in Davis (and Sinclair): 2 3 4 5 6
Will search under "Howard Davis" soon to see if there is coverage of him before the war; one article says he was known by his middle name. DiamondRemley39 (talk) 00:20, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep your vote, but do not misrepresent the coverage so. Certainly more than "a short sentence" describe where he was born, raised, schooled, served, and died in biographical articles with photos. There certainly is context. I don't care if it no longer exists as a standalone article--the prose and references will be preserved and the article redirected, so it does not signify--but what we can see exists must be not be downplayed if this is to be a good discussion. DiamondRemley39 (talk) 01:54, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I did see the obituaries and the articles explaining who is was within the context of the naming of the base, but nothing outside of that. When all the coverage is about the Air Force base and explains who he is an aside, the notability just isn't there unfortunately. - Aoidh (talk) 03:54, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Come, come, now. According to that *changed* statement, you missed some sources or you misclassified them. The first source is an entire biography, for example. Not a few sentences as you first said. Not an obituary or coverage of the naming or even the crash as you have said. Again, I don't care what your vote is, but *do not misrepresent the sources you yourself asked for* and have access to yourself, according to your user page. Take your time and be precise in AfD discussions. Also, news coverage of death in papers about the country does not an obit make. DiamondRemley39 (talk) 09:25, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
That first source you're referring to discusses him within the context of why the Air Force base is named what it is, which is exactly what I said it was. I would further point you to WP:BLP1E, as being mentioned in the newspapers solely for a plane crash does not create notability. Your comment seems unnecessarily focused on me and what you've assumed I did or did not do; perhaps let's focus on the content moving forward? - Aoidh (talk) 10:20, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
We are focused on the content. We are focusing on what you've said rather than on notability because your comment is misleading as to the scope of the sources. (I started my first comment with "keep your vote," after all.) We are having this tangent because such poor representation of the sources as you provided in your comments tend to mislead editors who come to the discussion and vote. Recall you wrote "a short sentence explaining that he was a pilot that died, usually to explain why the base was named what it was, and zero context beyond that". Wrong. Instead of striking, correcting, clarifying, or ignoring, you now add, "When all the coverage is about the Air Force base and explains who he is an aside..." No. Inaccurate; there was some biographical coverage at the time of his death. You could have avoided this discourse if you'd merely said "I've reviewed the dozen plus sources added and I don't see the notability". Again, keep your vote. Good editors care about accuracy on this page and in the article. You don't have to keep responding, but if you've been around AfD at all you may know that editors are likely to respond to comments like these. DiamondRemley39 (talk) 15:40, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thankfully, you do not get to decide who "good editors" are nor what they do. You're resorting to attacking me as an editor to compensate for your lack of anything else to rebut, and thankfully anyone who reads your comment will see right through that. Despite what you're claiming, most editors don't behave like you have at AfD, especially the "good editors." I don't know what your goal is with nonsense like "good editors care..." implying that I'm not a good editor but it's inappropriate, it's not constructive, it's certainly not going to convince me of the merits of your argument, and it's frankly disappointing that you feel you have to stoop to that behavior. You're not discussing, you're attacking, and I'll not play along further. You had a chance to stop making digs at me and to focus on the content and you failed. Badly. I know you'll have the last word and you're welcome to it, but for my part I'll just say that we'll agree to disagree. I'll take this page off my watchlist now because I'm not interested in more of...whatever this is you're doing. - Aoidh (talk) 22:20, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz Read! Talk! 06:02, 12 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Aneek Chatterjee[edit]

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Appears to fail WP:NACADEMIC (see, e.g., [9]). – Ploni (talk) 18:31, 30 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Star Mississippi 14:44, 15 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Graphnet[edit]

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No reliabler sources provided to pass WP:NCORP or WP:GNG Bash7oven (talk) 17:46, 30 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. plicit 11:37, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

J.H. Soeder[edit]

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Insufficient coverage (nothing came up on Wikipedia Library or newspapers.com), and the book awards cited don't appear notable enough to satisfy WP:NAUTHOR. – Ploni (talk) 16:29, 30 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. TigerShark (talk) 02:39, 15 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Carla Boyce[edit]

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Was deleted in 2018 due to a WP:GNG/N:FOOTBALL failure. She still fails GNG due to a lack of significant coverage about her. Dougal18 (talk) 14:21, 30 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep as Daily Record and Edinburgh Evening News articles appear to satisfy GNG. Crowsus (talk) 19:02, 30 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Transfer news is routine coverage. This article has 4 lines on her before quoting her and moving on to Hibs Ladies upcoming fixtures. This has one and a half sentences on her. Dougal18 (talk) 09:24, 3 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Yeah, comments like that don't really help the discussion closer. Liz Read! Talk! 02:51, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
They absolutely should. Perfectly normal opinion expressed at AfD. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:55, 11 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
So, one editor says, "Passes GNG" and the next one says, "Fails GNG". How much weight to give either comment, comments that took about 10 seconds to add to the AFD discussion and show no evidence that either editor has examined the article? An AFD I closed was brought to Deletion review simply because I gave statements like those any weight at all. Liz Read! Talk! 06:00, 12 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, Liz. If an editor wants to weigh in, they need to give more than that. Simione001, Necrothesp, why does it pass GNG, Sportsfan 1234, what did you do to research this and find it lacking? Das osmnezz, tell us what sources you found? Give the closers something to weigh! Jacona (talk) 13:45, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
AfD is all about opinion. In my opinion the sources are sufficient to satisfy GNG. What, do you think every source needs to be analysed? -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:54, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
What, do you think every source needs to be analysed? as a closer, it would be infinitely helpful as @Liz also pointed out. The volume of sports debates is exhausting, poor quality votes help no one even if one of you is by default "right" Star Mississippi 02:04, 15 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect to List of solar eclipses in the 21st century. No consensus to delete. Consensus to either keep or redirect. Also factoring current clear consensus at RFC. TigerShark (talk) 02:55, 15 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Solar eclipse of June 13, 2094[edit]

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Failure GNG: It will take 72 years for this solar eclipse to occur. At the same time, it only occurs in the waters near Antarctica, and it is a partial solar eclipse, so it has no scientific value. Q28 (talk) 14:02, 30 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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I read WP:CRYSTAL more carefully. Likely events can be included, if predicted by experts. So I'm switching to not !voting here. CT55555 (talk) 01:01, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. But as I answer your question, it makes me want to ask you one too. Sorry if I'm taking us further off track, but do you think the humans are going to continue existing indefinitely, or do you think there is a point where certainty about that is difficult to predict? CT55555 (talk) 21:41, 4 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Well, if we don't, who cares? In the most literal sense possible – if there is some massive event that causes humanity to perish, there won't be any humans to have opinions about it. And there will still be an eclipse on June 13, 2094! Perhaps the cockroaches and space aliens and intelligent machines will even read about it on Wikipedia. jp×g 21:56, 4 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Bodies blocking the paths of suns happen commonly, what makes these ones notable is that humans see them. But maybe it doesn't matter too much if wikipedia is out of date if there are no humans. I don't think we have guidance for that. But still, I wonder do you think the orbit of the moon and earth are absolutely guaranteed to be unaltered forever? Is there a point where you think these future predictions should stop? Or should we have wikipedia articles about eclipses expected in the 3000s? 4000s? Should we have infinite eclipse articles? My current view remains that the guidance directs us away from creating articles about future events that didn't happen. CT55555 (talk) 22:05, 4 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
If some event catastrophic enough to disrupt the orbit of the Earth occurs between now and the end of the 21st century, I am pretty sure it will involve enough energy to render the planet uninhabitable, in which case Wikipedia will no longer exist. As for future predictability, there are indeed stochastic perturbations that can compound and alter the trajectories of celestial bodies on larger timescales. If that's enough to actually change eclipse times, who knows? But for matters of practicality, I don't think it really matters what Wikipedia has planned for the year 3000: it seems exceedingly unlikely that humans will still be using their hands to type on keyboards, or reading glowing rectangles to obtain information about the world (indeed unlikely that the English language will exist in its current form). But if a bunch of articles about eclipses in the year 3000 existed, I don't think it would be worth the effort to have discussions about all of them and delete them, either. jp×g 00:15, 5 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I think I agree. And therefore we must agree there needs to be a cut off point somewhere between now and 3000AD. I don't know what to !vote other than against all future predictions. CT55555 (talk) 04:19, 5 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was merge to Micro miniature. Liz Read! Talk! 22:17, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Gunasekaran Sundarraj[edit]

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No independent sources found. Some of the references are to subject's own site; others are blogs or unreliable. The Hindu article is an interview in a city supplement, Tribune is a passing mention among awardee list and the award's notability is not established. (rationale copied from my PROD) Hemantha (talk) 13:56, 30 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 20:41, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Andy Nagy[edit]

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Does not appear to meet WP:GNG; the only coverage available appears to be from the NBA itself, barring some mere-mentions in newspapers that I found on ProQuest. Would have met the old NBASKET standard that all top-tier players, coaches and referees are notable, but as that is no longer in force, here we are at AFD. signed, Rosguill talk 20:12, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Reading through all of these varied opinions, I'm going to close this discussion with a simple Delete, no Salt. If this article gets recreated again in main space, please tag it for CSD G4. Ideally, any supporters of this article will read this AFD closure and work on a new article in Draft space, submitting it for AFC review.

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Joshua Dufek[edit]

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Recreation of article deleted via two different AfD discussions. Propose deletion and creation protection. -"Ghost of Dan Gurney" 19:56, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Fails WP:GNG. Salt as well. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 02:11, 8 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 20:33, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Drakoo wave energy converter[edit]

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Not enough reliable independent sourcing exists to assert notability of this particular type of wave energy converter. PianoDan (talk) 19:44, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Speedy delete. Page was deleted in October 2006 as A7, without its AfD ever having been closed properly. (non-admin closure) jp×g 19:18, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Brent's T.V.[edit]

non-notable band.

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The result was redirect, the article was redirected years ago and has been stable. No prejudice against bold recreation. Legoktm (talk) 19:01, 8 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Disposal_orbit[edit]

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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 20:31, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ashley Hames[edit]

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First AfD ended in no consensus. Not seeing sufficient depth of coverage for meeting notability criteria. OhNoitsJamie Talk 18:16, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep as per rough consensus. (non-admin closure) Kj cheetham (talk) 19:34, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Tracker (granola bar)[edit]

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Deprodded with the rationale that it is "pretty notable in the UK", I was unable to find any reliable sources showing this. Fails notability guidelines; the sole source on the article mentions the subject only in passing. Waxworker (talk) 17:37, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. Stifle (talk) 10:00, 15 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

R. M. Muzumdar[edit]

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There's a lecture series in the subject's honor thanks to a grant donated by his wife, but otherwise I'm not able to find any significant coverage of the subject, having searched DuckDuckGo, Google Scholar, and Proquest for several variations of the subject's name. Does not appear to meet WP:GNG. signed, Rosguill talk 17:38, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy delete G11 by User:Athaenara. (non-admin closure) Sammi Brie (she/her • tc) 00:07, 8 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Paari Saalan[edit]

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Looks like promotion, not enough reliable sources Renvoy (talk) 17:20, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz Read! Talk! 20:28, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Joseph D'Aleo[edit]

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The subject does not seem to meet GNG (The best think I could find was this snippet [15]), and the article is is need of some WP:TNT for not adhering to WP:FRINGE and other NPOV issues stemming from the fact it's based on non-independent sources. Femke (talk) 16:33, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Stifle (talk) 10:00, 15 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Princeton University in popular culture[edit]

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Article fails WP:GNG and list fails WP:LISTN. There isn't WP:SIGCOV to cite much of the statements here, and much of the list is WP:OR. Following the precedent at other similar articles for Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yale University in popular culture, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Johns Hopkins University in popular culture, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tulane University in popular culture, and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stanford University in popular culture. Jontesta (talk) 15:42, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 18:58, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Francis (character)[edit]

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I was going to redirect this to Steven Williams but I decided to send it to AfD instead. The character is already covered in the article for Steven Williams and is not individually notable. Bruxton (talk) 15:06, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Draftify. as a valid AtD. G13 can solve this if sourcing doesn't come to fruition. Star Mississippi 02:15, 15 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

2022 Beckley police shooting[edit]

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Relatively common shooting, some regional coverage, "armed man shot by police". WP:MILL no evidence that it will be WP:LASTING. Bruxton (talk) 14:29, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

More than regional coverage. Washington Post, Associated Press and US News have all reported on this. I feel like it is a unique shooting, as the multiple POV videos have gone viral on various platforms, and could be considered notable. BishopRiffe (talk) 15:03, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 01:22, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Plearnpichaya Komalarajun[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG, tagged for notability, no change in notability since. No significant coverage, no evidence of multiple/significant roles or any musical significance. Alexandermcnabb (talk) 07:23, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 18:57, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sushmita Ruj[edit]

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Is this person really notable enough for an article? I see that she's now senior lecturer at UNSW https://research.unsw.edu.au/people/ms-sushmita-ruj But Google doesn't show up much else in independent sources, and the citations are thin. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 13:34, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. I'm reading Delete here but not a Strong Delete as comments are framed in phrases like "I do not believe meets NPOL", "may not be notable" and "doesn't not appear to be". No penalty against trying to create a new Draft version of this article that would better meeting current notability standards. Liz Read! Talk! 18:56, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ahmad Muhammad Bawa[edit]

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Career civil servant who I do not believe meets NPOL. He is not a GNG pass either, perhaps owing to his career be largely pre-internet. Opinion is divided as to whether state-level commissioners in Nigeria are generally notable but I don’t think this one is. Mccapra (talk) 06:33, 30 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Weak delete may be notable as politician though. --Bash7oven (talk) 17:56, 30 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes and the question is whether this individual is a politician/judge or not. The policy doesn’t say that any person who has held any kind of state-level appointment is notable. Mccapra (talk) 05:52, 1 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The article makes it obvious that he was a state politician. How many state offices did he hold? You should do the counting to ascertain whether he is, a politician. Best, R E A D I N G Talk to the Beans? 08:12, 1 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. plicit 00:06, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nuesoft[edit]

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Definitely lacks reliable independent media coverage needed for private companies. WP:NCORP and WP:CORPDEPTH. 11 years since the Notability tag appeared, and no improvements so far Bash7oven (talk) 12:08, 30 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to Coldplay discography. plicit 13:31, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Live from Spotify London[edit]

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I would like to nominate this article for deletion because as with most Coldplay EPs, Live from Spotify London is not a very notable release: Its details can be boiled down to a text on their discography page, it has not appeared on any country's national music chart, it has not been certified gold or higher in at least one country and it has not won or been nominated for a major music award. GustavoCza (talkcontribs) 11:56, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to Coldplay discography. (non-admin closure) ASTIG️🙃 (ICE-TICE CUBE) 12:00, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Live in Madrid (EP)[edit]

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I would like to nominate this article for deletion because as with most Coldplay EPs, Live in Madrid is not a very notable release: Its details can be boiled down to a text on their discography page, it has not appeared on any country's national music chart, it has not been certified gold or higher in at least one country and it has not won or been nominated for a major music award. GustavoCza (talkcontribs) 11:52, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to Coldplay discography. (non-admin closure) ASTIG️🙃 (ICE-TICE CUBE) 11:50, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Remixes (Coldplay EP)[edit]

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I would like to nominate this article for deletion because as with most Coldplay EPs, Remixes is not a very notable release: Its details can be boiled down to a text on their discography page, it has not appeared on any country's national music chart, it has not been certified gold or higher in at least one country and it has not won or been nominated for a major music award. GustavoCza (talkcontribs) 11:45, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. plicit 12:12, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Mince Spies[edit]

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I would like to nominate this article for deletion because as with most Coldplay EPs, Mince Spies is not a very notable release: Its details can be boiled down to a text on their discography page, it has not appeared on any country's national music chart, it has not been certified gold or higher in at least one country and it has not won or been nominated for a major music award. GustavoCza (talkcontribs) 11:31, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy delete at the request of the sole contributor (criterion G7). XOR'easter (talk) 17:09, 7 July 2022 (UTC) (non-admin closure)[reply]

Angelito S. Lazaro Jr.[edit]

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Not notable as a politician (vice mayor of Calamba). No RS. Fails WP:ANYBIO Morpho achilles (talk) 09:52, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Consensus to delete. Dissenting views mentioned WP:LISTED, but that alone does not establish notability. No sufficiently strong sources seem to have been provided which enable consensus to keep. TigerShark (talk) 02:31, 15 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The Kingfish Company[edit]

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Does not fit WP:NCORP or WP:GNG. No RS provided here. Morpho achilles (talk) 09:50, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep WP:LISTED applies to this public company. Company recently changed its name from Kingfish Zeeland, and WP:BEFORE using that name does reveal some potential source material, here, elsewhere. UnitedStatesian (talk) 17:25, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
WP:LISTED isn't automatic; it is only a suggestion that RS exist. The link you provided is not independent at all (it says Client: Kingfish Zeeland). Ovinus (talk) 18:13, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
That told him! Although ... which sources in particular? All very well to virtually wag your finger but it is notable that you didn't produce any sources yourself that meet NCORP. HighKing++ 17:45, 11 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Mubashir Malik[edit]

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Non-notable author. Only promtional coverage is this launch. Otherwise, his conpiracy theory book received no "genuine review". I can't find anything about him on worldcat so seems like a run-of-the-mill author. Amon Stutzman (talk) 09:09, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. plicit 00:09, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Jojo Soria de Veyra[edit]

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An article on this subject was deleted in 2010 at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vicente-Ignacio Soria de Veyra with the rationale “ On this face of it this is a highly detailed, very well sourced article. However once you get into the nit-gritty it's not sourced at all (not at wikipedia standards). All of the sources are either self-published, non-notable blogs or directory lists. There are a couple of sources that might be considered reliable but the coverage of the subject is trivia.” That rationale still stands. Since 2010 the subject has had one solo exhibition but if we’re looking for in depth coverage in RIS this recreation doesn’t offer it. Mccapra (talk) 06:51, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 07:01, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

24 Game (proprietary card game)[edit]

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Non-notable game that doesn't cite any refs, can't find any sources except for maybe a mention here. IMO doesn't meet GNG and should be deleted. VickKiang (talk) 07:29, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 05:08, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Chandigarh women's football team[edit]

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Chandigarh women's football team

Non-notable sports team that does not satisfy general notability. This was first created in article space but moved into draft space by User:Spiderone after being tagged as relying on primary sources. This copy was then created in article space, so that it cannot be moved into draft space, but still is not ready for article space. A check of the references shows that they are all primary sources, and mostly refer to the subjunior team winning its championship, and are not significant coverage. Junior and subjunior sports have very seldom been considered notable, even before the revision of the sports notability guidelines.

Reference Number Reference Comments Independent Significant Reliable Secondary
1 www.the-aiff.com Page about the association in the web site for Indian football No Yes Yes No
2 www.rsssf.com List of champions that doesn’t list them No No Yes No
3 www.the-aiff.com Page about the Indian football association listing subjunior champions No No Yes No
4 www.the-aiff.com Indian football association page that appears to be a directory to other pages No No Yes No
5 footballcounter.com Article about subjunior championship Yes No Yes No
6 khelnow.com A passing mention of subjunior championship Yes No Yes No

Neither the article nor the references establish notability. Robert McClenon (talk) 04:28, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 03:50, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oussama Lamlioui[edit]

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Article relies two weak sources both are just stats about the player. Article does not detail any reason for notability nothing about his training, awards won, personal life etc. Additionally a google search WP:GOOGLETEST does not offer any additional information or sources to establish WP:GNG or WP:SNG. Fails WP:NOTPUBLICFIGURE. Attempted to speedy delete by NPP Reading Beans as per WP:A7 but was reverted. Dr vulpes (💬📝) 03:20, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to List of National Rugby League referees. Liz Read! Talk! 03:50, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Grant Atkins[edit]

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Article relies on weak sources, one the subject is briefly mentioned, another is an about page with some stats. Article does not detail any reason for notability and is mostly about games he was a referee for. Nothing about his training, awards won, etc. Additionally a google search does not offer any additional information or sources to establish WP:GNG or WP:SNG. Fails WP:NOTPUBLICFIGURE. Attempted to speedy delete as per WP:A7 but was reverted. Dr vulpes (💬📝) 03:12, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was merge to Eric B. Vogel. Liz Read! Talk! 02:25, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Armorica (game)[edit]

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Non-notable game with only three refs, the first one is potentially reliable, but the editor is also a prominent contributor to BGG (https://boardgamegeek.com/blog/1/boardgamegeek-news), which according to the Wikiproject Board Games is an unreliable blog. The second ref is not independent, and the third one is too unreliable. Upon a search, I could not find any awards or reliable refs covering this, hence listing this at AfD as there are not multiple reliable independent sources. Thanks! VickKiang (talk) 23:10, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There are certainly more references out there: https://www.dicetower.com/game/67285/armorica
Is there clear criteria for which board games should get articles and which should not?
I feel like having Amorica relevant to understanding Vogel's progress as a game designer working up to his more successful/award winning titles (dresden files and kitara)
https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/293267/kitara
https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/187273/dresden-files-cooperative-card-game Michaeleconomy (talk) 23:29, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I disagree, BGG and The Dice Tower (the latter I also subscribe to) are self-published (please see Wikiproject) and unreliable. IMO an article needs more reliable sources with editorial control. Replying to the other comment, I do not think so, although in my opinion an article should be all right if it has two multiple, reliable, indepedent sources, or won (or is nominated) to a SdJ. While I could concur that this is "relevant to understanding Vogel's progress as a game designer", unless you provide more reliable refs, I am unconvinced that this is notable. Many thanks for your time and help! VickKiang (talk) 23:35, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I subscribe to loads of YouTube channels on games, namely SUSD (which I am more familiar with) and Watch it Played; I probably subscribed to Dice Tower sometime ago, or came across on BGG but think all of these are well known and review thousands of games in total! But all of these Youtube channels are probably unreliable, much less notable IMO, so I agree with your assessment. VickKiang (talk) 08:59, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Your point is interesting, but below is a source table; at best, there's one source meeting GNG, and two unsures, so merging or deleting are both fine to me.

Source assessment table: prepared by User:VickKiang
Source Independent? Reliable? Significant coverage? Count source toward GNG?
https://www.rollthedice.nl/ Yes Indepedent. ? The source is a board game association, but doesn't seem to have editorial policies. Yes The source covers the subject in detail. ? Unknown
http://sunsite.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/keirat/txt/A/Armorica.html ? It's indepedent (?) but sponsored ("Many thanks to Vainglorious Games for sending us a review copy!") No Self-published blog, dated design, not reliable. Yes The source covers the subject in detail. No
https://rivcoach.wordpress.com/2010/09/25/review-armorica-by-vainglorius-games/ Yes It's indepedent probably, but the site's deleted. No Deleted self-published site on Wordpress ? The article could not be opened (as "rivcoach.wordpress.com is no longer available"). No
https://www.jedisjeux.net/jeux-de-societe/ Yes The subject is indepedent. Yes An association that seems reliable enough, but somehow Google translate doesn't work well, and as I can't read French, I am not sure whether there's an editorial policy. But it's all right and probably reliable. Yes The article discusses the subject in detail. Yes
http://detafelplakt.skynetblogs.be/archive/2010/07/20/kleine-dingen.html Yes The subject is indepedent presumably, though it can't be accessed on my laptop. No Blog, also couldn't be opened on my laptop. ? Ref couldn't be accessed for me, but it's unreliable as it's a self-published blog. No
http://spotlightongames.com/list/nights/a.html#armorica Yes The subject is indepedent. No Self-published, no editorial policies. Yes Short, but in-depth enough. No
https://www.dicetower.com/game/67285/armorica Yes The subject is indepedent. No YouTube channel turned into webpage, marginally reliable for mundane coverage, including gameplay, release date, publisher..., generally unreliable for subjective reviews, and doesn't contribute to GNG as it's routine. Yes Long review. No
http://www.boardgamenews.com/index.php/boardgamenews/comments/bring_gauls_and_romans_together_in_armorica/ Yes The subject is indepedent. ? It seems to have about section and an editor, but the author now posts on BGG, which isn't reliable. Yes Fairly long article. ? Unknown
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using ((source assess table)).

The other refs, including BGG link and the publisher's link, are clearly unreliable. VickKiang (talk) 22:28, 3 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to 2022 Georgia lieutenant gubernatorial election#Democratic primary. TigerShark (talk) 02:49, 15 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Charlie Bailey (politician)[edit]

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WP:BLP of a person notable only as a non-winning candidate for political office. As always, candidates do not get Wikipedia articles just for being candidates per se -- the notability test for politicians is holding a notable political office, not just running for one, and a candidate must demonstrate either that he already had preexisting notability for other reasons that would already have gotten him an article anyway (i.e. Cynthia Nixon), or a credible reason why his candidacy can be seen as much, much more nationally significant than other people's candidacies such that people would still be looking for information about it a decade from now even if he loses. But this demonstrates neither of those things, and is referenced to a mix of primary sources that are not support for notability at all and purely run of the mill local campaign coverage of the type that every candidate in every election always gets, thus not marking him out as more special than everybody else.
Obviously no prejudice against recreation in November if he wins, but nothing here is already enough to earn him a Wikipedia article today. Bearcat (talk) 17:19, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Every candidate in every election everywhere can always show campaign coverage, and thus claim that WP:GNG exempts them from having to pass WP:NPOL — but if that were how it worked, then NPOL would be entirely unenforceable, because nobody would ever actually have to be measured against it at all anymore. So no, a non-winning candidate does not get an article just because run of the mill campaign coverage exists: as I noted in my nomination statement, candidates get articles only if they (a) had another claim of notability for some other reason that would already have gotten them an article anyway, or (b) can show a credible reason why their candidacy should be seen as much, much more important and special than most other people's candidacies. And no, running twice isn't more notable than running once, and coming close but still losing isn't more notable than losing by a wider margin, either. Bearcat (talk) 12:21, 28 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
How was it established that this state-wide nominee's coverage is only 'run of the mill'? If this is so far an assumption based on the current article status, my comment serves as an invitation for editors to look for and include more significant coverage. The article is only a week old. —ADavidB 16:24, 28 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Being a candidate for statewide office isn't any more "inherently" notable than being a candidate for local office either — candidates for statewide office still always get campaign coverage by definition, and thus what I said before about how nobody would ever have to be measured against our inclusion standard for politicians if the existence of campaign coverage were all it took to exempt them from it still applies the same way. Simply put, a candidate only gets to claim notability on the basis of campaign coverage itself if that campaign coverage expands to a volume and geographic range far beyond what would merely be expected to exist, because the test for a non-winning candidate requires him to demonstrate that he's so much more notable than most other candidates that even if he loses he would still pass the people will still be looking for information about his campaign in the year 2032 test anyway.
If a person is running for statewide office, then campaign coverage within the state where he's running for office is merely expected to always exist, and is thus run of the mill — if a candidate in Georgia breaks out to such a degree that he starts getting covered in California and Iowa and Michigan, then he might be getting somewhere, but if he's only getting coverage in Georgia then that coverage is not demonstrating that he's more notable than other candidates. Bearcat (talk) 21:55, 28 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I disagree with treating major-party-elected statewide nominees as 'local', but acknowledge that is how things are being done. —ADavidB 02:13, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. plicit 12:46, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

East Timor–Spain relations[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG. There really isn't much to these relations, no agreements, no embassies, no significant trade. The relations seem to be limited Ministerial interaction and a Spanish company building a road in East Timor. LibStar (talk) 01:59, 30 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz Read! Talk! 03:47, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Henry V. Jardine[edit]

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Mainly being a nominee as an Ambassador. I don't think this is notable. R E A D I N G Talk to the Beans? 01:50, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Just because you have never heard of the two countries, actually (not one), does not mean the ambassadors are not notable. He is as notable as the other ambassadors on this page as well as as notable as the ambassadors appointed by the Trump administration, all of whom have pages on both counts. You also treat nomination as if it is not the first step to confirmation. The fact that he has not yet been confirmed has nothing to do with notability guidelines. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Isaiahlaitinen99 (talkcontribs) 20:38, 11 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. (non-admin closure) NemesisAT (talk) 13:33, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Winslow Fegley[edit]

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Actor does not meet WP:NACTOR, let alone WP:BASIC. Need to prove it meets these, not just invoke them. Additionally, three of the four references WP:NOTRS. I would also support converting this to a draft. But it definitely should not be in mainspace as it stands. Amaury17:35, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. I don't think a 3rd relisting would induce more participation here so I'm closing this AFD as "No consensus". Liz Read! Talk! 00:45, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Saxon Logan[edit]

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None of the references shown here demonstrate independent in-depth coverage-- the second one appears to be to the subject's own personal website. No evidence of any awards won, no notable credits, lots of evidence he exists and was interviewed once but I don't see a viable notability claim here. A loose necktie (talk) 19:14, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Loose Necktie
Thank you for your concern on this page. I will attempt to answer your notes below.
The second website you mention appears to be the subjects own website is not correct. This is the subjects own website, https://saxonlogan.com/, which has been avoided for obvious reasons.
With regards to notability, he won an Emmy award and received an honorary mention from the Academy in USA. Notability must be viewed from both a local and worldwide context. USA and Europe don't have an exclusive hold over who is notable in film and television. In Africa this man is incredibly notable.
His most active period was prior to the invention of the internet so the vast majority of publicity no longer exists, making finding online external links difficult to source. It should be flagged for lack of appropriate citations, not deleted for notability. Shelly Took (talk) 06:23, 23 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 00:41, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Larrye Weaver[edit]

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Article relies on a single source, and is only linked to by one other article which is a list of football players. Additionally a google search does not offer any additional information or sources to establish WP:GNG or WP:SNG. Fails WP:NOTPUBLICFIGURE. Attempted to speedy delete as per WP:A7 but was reverted. Dr vulpes (💬📝) 00:32, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Baseball - WP:NBASE
  • Are a member of a major Hall of Fame, such as the National Baseball Hall of Fame and Museum or the Japanese Baseball Hall of Fame.
Basketball - WP:NBASKETBALL
  • Were selected in the first two rounds of the NBA draft.
  • Have won an award, or led the league in a major statistical category, of the Continental Basketball Association or NBA G League.
College Athletes and Coaches - WP:NCOLLATH
  • Have won a national award (such as those listed in Template:College Football Awards or the equivalent in another sport), or established a major NCAA Division I record.
  • Were inducted into the hall of fame in their sport (for example, the College Football Hall of Fame).
  • Gained national media attention as an individual, not just as a player for a notable team. Very rarely, a player may gain national media attention despite not being on a notable team, such as Lauren Hill.
  • Have won multiple NCAA Division I national championships as an individual in an individual sport.
  • Served as a full-time (as opposed to interim) head coach for NCAA Division I/University Division football. Other college coaches in other divisions and/or other sports may also meet notability guidelines via WP:NBASIC.
  • @Dr vulpes: Passing GNG, as here, is all that's required. Q3 in the NSPORTS FAQs expressly states: "If the subject meets the general notability guideline, then they meet Wikipedia's standards for having an article in Wikipedia, even if they do not meet the criteria for the appropriate sports-specific notability guideline. The sports-specific notability guidelines are not intended to set a higher bar for inclusion in Wikipedia." Cbl62 (talk) 00:36, 8 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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