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The result was speedy keep per criterion 2. Between the evidence presented by the keep !votes and the actions of the nominator, the obvious conclusion is that the nomination was to advance an agenda, not based on Wikipedia policies. —C.Fred (talk) 17:03, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

White Turks[edit]

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It is not an actual term used by anyone. Whole article is a propaganda for political agendas. Aloisnebegn (talk) 23:43, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Agreed, the nominator seems to want to hide information contrary to what appears to be a pro-nationalist Turkish ideal they have. Right or wrong, their ideal is only one side of the story if you will and should also be presented without limiting others from presenting their views. Oaktree b (talk) 03:00, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Why are you trying to make personal assumptions? Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, it is not a discussion forum to present differing views. Only information with consensus belong to here. Aloisnebegn (talk) 16:44, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Procedural close. Already handled at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 February 22#Appeal to Reason (band). (non-admin closure) jp×g 23:49, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Appeal to Reason (band)[edit]

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I created this page by mistake : it is a band album, not a band. This page should be deleted. --Varlin (talk) 16:53, 17 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 22:54, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Jesca Wilfredy[edit]

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Subject fails ANYBIO; The few sources provided don't look like enough for GNG. The result of the prior deletion discussion was draftify which was subsequently G13'd. Chris Troutman (talk) 22:53, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  1. https://www.mwananchi.co.tz/mw/habari/kitaifa/mitandao-ya-kijamii-yamtoa-kimaisha-3416192 (possibly promotional)
  2. https://www.pulselive.co.ke/entertainment/celebrities/ex-harmonize-manager-mr-puaz-unveils-new-business-venture-talks-artiste-management/40vnkfc (Tabloid? Passing mention) CT55555 (talk) 23:18, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 19:59, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Tyler Humphrey[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG and lacks WP:SIGCOV. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 22:37, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 19:59, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ryu Tanzawa[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG and lacks WP:SIGCOV. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 22:34, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 05:46, 27 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Majma-ul-Uloom Al-Islamia[edit]

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Educational board of absolutely no notability whatsoever. Lacks coverage, lacks relevance, lacks content of any note. Fails WP:GNG; WP:SCHOOL; WP:NORG and, just for good measure, WP:NRELORG. Alexandermcnabb (talk) 14:37, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. The discussion has ran out of steam, and has started to descend into classic arguments to avoid. (No prejudice against nomination). Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 20:13, 9 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Doctor of Metaphysics[edit]

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Article's references do not discuss the subject of the article, degree is only offered by unremarkable institutions, appropriate coverage of the subject in independent reliable published sources seems to be lacking. A loose necktie (talk) 18:43, 28 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Good point, I hadn't even considered that. A loose necktie (talk) 11:56, 1 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: We include articles on Wikipedia when there is WP:RS to WP:V and we have that. We also evaluate a topic based on WP:NEXIST - and there is an abundance of references on this topic which are not in the article. Notability is not diminished when a segment of the population does not believe in something. We have articles for all manner of absurdities in relation to religion, spirituality and Pseudoscience. And let me define Metaphysics - this so called "legitimate" branch of philosophy: it involves "abstract concepts such as being, knowing, substance, cause, identity, time, and space." Finally, people have claimed to be a Doctor of Metaphysics for centuries. I believe that we would do a disservice to our readers with a deletion. Bruxton (talk) 14:53, 1 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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*Delete and preferably shred and burn. Aside from the failure to meet GNG with reliable sourcing, Dan of La Mancha is correct that this is a fake degree offered by diploma mills, and this article serves to promote such illegitimate degree. The University of Georgia definition is fine, but it has no bearing on the "doctorate" described in the article, which is available for cash amounts from the University of Metaphysics ($990 if you prepay in full), or from the Esoteric Theological Seminary ($890, a bargain!). Wikipedia should not be in the business of providing advertising for diploma mills. See the George Gollin article for a respected academic's experience taking on one of the larger diploma mills, or check our St. Regis University, which he helped to close. Now I need to take a shower. Gah. — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 18:02, 6 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Grand'mere Eugene: this article serves to promote such illegitimate degree yikes. We create articles for all subjects. Definitely not promoting. People have claimed to be a Doctor of Metaphysics in 1843 - long before diploma mills existed. I imagine some snake oil salesmen also claimed the title. I thought a redirect might help our readers who come across articles with the title, as I did when writing the Helen Hadsell article. Thanks. Bruxton (talk) 00:11, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Bruxton: The first problem is that of the five sources currently in the article, only the University of Georgia source is reliable, presenting a definition of metaphysics of traditional philosophy. However, it does not even mention a doctorate in metaphysics. The second problem is that the four remaining sources in the article amount to sales pitches or passing mention such as in the Helen Hadsell piece. Three of these sources describe "doctorates" without the benefit of a curriculum or dissertation, presenting only a price list for various documents printed on parchment. Referring to these sources in Wikipedia's voice is the very definition of WP:PROMO, in the section on Advertising, marketing or public relations. I suggest if we need a redirect, appropriate targets might be to Charlatan or Diploma mill, or even to your example above, Snake oil salesman. In my view, though, deletion has more integrity. — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 06:30, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I assume this is an Unaccredited degree? Insufficient sourcing is a reason to delete, but if some rewording is needed to clarify it's a fake degree and remove promo that's more like clean-up and WP:DINC. -Kj cheetham (talk) 19:41, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Kj cheetham: Thanks for the comment and suggestion. I would welcome any effort you can make to assist in a cleanup. It is difficult to see how people began taking on this title, but perhaps it has always been hucksters. At present it is a unaccredited degree because I have not found a university who offers this as accredited. Bruxton (talk) 21:07, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Kj cheetham and Bruxton, sourcing is the central problem in this article. Two of the sources (metaphysics.com and universityofmetaphysics.com) are part of the International Metaphysical Ministry (IMM), so essentially count as a single source that is an unaccredited religious organization. None of the other sources provide significant coverage of the topic.
IMM actually offers advice about using their degrees legally: "Your own legal right to teach, counsel, or heal in the contemporary field of Metaphysics today is determined by having an ordained ministerial status, not upon a doctoral degree in Metaphysics. The primary purpose of the doctoral degree is to establish a highly professional image..."
I have found no reliable, independent, secondary sources that provide significant coverage to meet WP:GNG — the article is not a good candidate for clean-up. — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 09:11, 8 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I do not think anyone is going to convince you. You already needed a shower after your first visit here. I am going to stub this so that these offensive references are removed since you keep referring to them as problematic. Bruxton (talk) 14:05, 8 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Here is one description we can use Other references exist as well but for now I will add this one to the stub. Bruxton (talk) 14:30, 8 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
This book is self-published - Lulu.com is a self-publishing book company. Alduin2000 (talk) 16:01, 8 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Alduin2000: yes - it was noted in the edit summary. This subject is much like religion. It is not science, there is no proof of God or miracles either. The author of that book refers to the organizations which award the degree as "so-called" institutions of higher learning. Bruxton (talk) 16:19, 8 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Just to clarify, I was pointing out that this source doesn't contribute to notability because only reliable sources contribute to notability and self-published sources are generally not considered reliable. Alduin2000 (talk) 16:26, 8 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Alduin2000:See also counterfeit degrees 1938 book US Department of the Interior Bruxton (talk) 16:28, 8 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Source seems ok but this is another trivial mention. Alduin2000 (talk) 16:41, 8 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Source assessment table:
Source Independent? Reliable? Significant coverage? Count source toward GNG?
What Is Metaphysics? No Part of International Metaphysical Ministry No source affiliated with 2 diploma mills No Passing mention of Doctoral degree No
Metaphysics, University of Georgia Yes Yes No No mention of Doctor of Metaphysics No
Metaphysics Facts and Fallacies ? No Self-published, not secondary or tertiary source ~ 2 paragraphs, p.17 No
Counterfeit Degrees Yes Yes No Passing mention on p. 245 No
Mail-order training in psychotherapy Full text version via Wikipedia Library

1960 survey and analysis of 24 institutions, including nine described as institutes of metaphysics offering doctorates by mai including Doctorate of Metaphysics, Doctor of Philosophy in Metaphysics, and Doctor of Divinity in Metaphysics.

Yes Yes Yes Yes
Predatory Doctoral Programs, Warnings for Social Workers Yes Yes No passing mentions of 3 Metaphysics degrees No
"$100 Doctors": The Facts on Today's Degree Mill Racket, available from JSTOR, Wikipedia Library Yes Yes No Four schools reviewed, two with passing mention of Doctor of Metaphysics. No
review of article, "Beware the Mind-Meddler" by Morris Fishbein, in Woman's Home Companion, December 1948 Passing mention from 2018 review of 1948 article: "Most charlatans have no scientific training. An M.D. or Ph.D. degree, the only ones valid in psychiatry and psychology, is not held by one quack in a hundred. Usually they are the owners of "doctor of psychology" or "doctor of metaphysics" degrees which have been sold to them by unaccredited "colleges" or other "institutions of learning." Yes Yes No Passing mention No
The Outlook for Patients Admitted to a Mental Hospital after the Age of Sixty Yes Yes No No mention of Doctor of Metaphysics No
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using ((source assess table)).

To clarify, none only one of the sources added contributes to WP:GNG, which specifies significant coverage in reliable, independent, secondary sources. Feel free to add your comments to the source assessment table above. — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 18:15, 8 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@MrsSnoozyTurtle: Hi, a makeover is in progress. I just added Predatory Doctoral Programs: Warnings for Social Workers from the Journal of Social Work Education. I hope you will check back. Thanks! Bruxton (talk) 23:18, 8 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Added "delete", which I now think is also an appropriate action here. MrsSnoozyTurtle 09:07, 18 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It's a thing. But the "degree" is of little or no value. See, e.g., Quora. We do have articles on Ponzi schemes and Trump University; that one does not like it doesn't make it disappear, and may not be a reason to delete it. Available sources seem to be thin. User:Bruxton did a good job with the newspaper archives, and I think they should be added to the article. Thank you. 7&6=thirteen () 17:12, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I updated the source assessment table to reflect the current sourcing. One source, Mail-order training in psychotherapy Full text version via Wikipedia Library is a 1960 survey and analysis of 24 institutions, including nine described as institutes of metaphysics offering doctorates by mai including Doctorate of Metaphysics, Doctor of Philosophy in Metaphysics, and Doctor of Divinity in Metaphysics. So it's a 60-year-old reflection of the state of mail-order hack degrees available then. I've also looked at sourcing on newspapers.com, which shows 1000+ hits on the search term "Doctor of Metaphysics", all so far mentions in obituaries or wedding announcements. Still no current sources with significant coverage in reliable, independent, secondary sources. — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 18:27, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I've added other sources, which are available through Google Scholar. 7&6=thirteen () 20:02, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

*Delete and redirect to Diploma mill, I think. I think by keeping the article we risk giving credit to fakery. The article is without much worth keeping, so I think the best thing to do is to redirect it to make it clear it is a fake degree. I'm open to being persuaded if anyone can persuade me that there is an ethically better path. CT55555 (talk) 20:07, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I contemplated moving most of the text and references to a section in one of the articles. But I have limited experience doing that, so I would defer to my learned colleagues. 7&6=thirteen () 02:31, 10 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I want to emphasize again, since a couple of people have mentioned it, that the Wikipedia article on Metaphysics describes a different topic from that which is studied by a "Doctor of Metaphysics". See Wiktionary metaphysics: the subject under discussion here is not definition 1 ("The branch of philosophy which studies fundamental principles" etc.), but definition 5 ("The study of a supersensual realm or of phenomena which transcend the physical world"). The Metaphysics.com source links the two together to give more legitimacy to the latter, and the article follows this in conflating the two subjects. I think this is causing confusion.
For the record, I stand by my delete !vote, or at least I don't agree with a merge or redirect to diploma mill as that article currently stands. I don't see how any of the text from Doctor of Metaphysics could be incorporated into diploma mill, or why this one degree should be discussed at length in that article when so many other fake degrees exist; and I don't think a redirect is appropriate while the target article doesn't include the phrase "Doctor of Metaphysics". That said, if someone plans to expand diploma mill to include a discussion of various types of fake degrees, I'm okay with redirecting to that article for the time being, to preserve the edit history. Dan of La Mancha (talk) 05:45, 10 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I agree, even though I acknowledge that the Doctor of Metaphysics article is less a WP:PROMO problem now. The list of suspect degree titles from the 1960 study is not comprehensive, as it is derived from the social sciences area by distance learning only, and besides, it is 60+ years out of date. In the intervening years, online diploma mills have invented plenty more fancy-sounding diplomas, so for regulatory agencies it is a continuing problem of whack-a-mole. Listing all known fake degrees would be 1) WP:OR and 2) overwhelming the content of the current Diploma mill article. Here's the list of known fake degree titles offered by 24 diploma mills from the 1960 "Mail-order training in psychotherapy" article:
TABLE 1
DEGREES AND DIPLOMAS OFFERED
  • Doctor of Philosophy
  • Doctor of Psychology
  • Doctor of Metaphysics
  • Doctor of Science
  • Doctor of Psychotherapy
  • Doctor of Bio-Psychology (BPD)
  • Doctor of Philosophy in Metaphysics (PhDM)
  • Doctor of Divinity in Metaphysics (DDM)
  • Doctor of Divinity
  • Doctor of Naturatics (NaD)
  • Master of Psychology and Scientific Truth (ScTM)
  • Master of Psychic Science (MPsSc)
  • Licentiate in Hypnotherapy (LHy)
  • Psychic Reader
  • Metaphysical Counselor
  • Master Metaphysician
  • Ordination
The above list only includes degree titles for the social sciences circa 1960! In the intervening years, diploma mills have continued to invent fake degrees in the sciences, engineering, medicine, religion, and other professions that pay decent wages to credentialed professionals. In the U.S., only about half of the states have laws prohibiting the use of these fake degrees to gain employment in a profession (just think about that the next time you need a nurse, engineer, or architect), and two agencies have historically maintained lists of the thousands of diploma mills selling phony parchment degrees: the Council for Higher Education Accreditation, and the U.S. Department of Education. I thus oppose merging phony degree titles to the existing diploma mills article as an impractical solution to resolving this AfD. — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 13:29, 10 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment— The tally so far:

Keep:

Delete:

Merge:

Comment only:

— Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 07:03, 12 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please see WP:!VOTE. It is the (unenviable) job of the closing admin to consider the relative strengths of the arguments presented, rather than simply counting the votes. Regards, MrsSnoozyTurtle 08:17, 12 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
That's right, seems they missed a relevant part of the tally because it is within the ivote.
  1. Bruxton Redirect
  2. Dream Focus Redirect is mentioned
  3. 7&6=13 redirect
  4. Lightburst Redirect
  5. CT55555 redirect
  6. MrsSnoozyTurtle merge and...
(I am assuming a redirect so people can find the topic in the merged material) see WP:MERGE A merger is the process of uniting two or more pages into a single page. It is done by copying some or all content from the source page(s) into the destination page and then replacing the source page with a redirect to the destination page. Bruxton (talk) 13:18, 12 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Bruxton, thanks for the corrections. I understand the rationale of preserving the edit history if there is valuable content that could potentially be used for other articles, but I'd still like to understand what content should be merged from the existing article, assuming the target article for the proposed redirect would be Diploma mills? — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 14:51, 12 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Sorry, riffic, asserting notability is not enough for WP:GNG. We actually require multiple sources with significant coverage, not just passing mentions of the subject. — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 15:49, 3 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hyperbolick, yes, this is conceptually different from legitimate nonscientific degrees because it is offered exclusively by unaccredited Diploma mills, and is a fake or bogus degree. Diploma mills have no scholastic requirements, only the payment of a fee for the parchment. — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 15:45, 3 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 19:57, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Doggy Style Records[edit]

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Does not pass WP:GNG or WP:NCORP. It is a viable search term, so could be redirected to Snoop Dogg >> Lil-unique1 (talk) — 21:50, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 19:56, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Jonathan Takano[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG and lacks WP:SIGCOV. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 21:29, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Procedural close. Nominator blocked as sock, discussion is ongoing at RfD. signed, Rosguill talk 18:45, 25 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Social unit[edit]

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On Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 June 5#Social unit it was decided that this venue is better suited for this kind of discussion. I propose delete because I wasn't able to find any reliable sources analyzing the usage of the term. BlackBony (talk) 21:28, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes that would be even better. Georgethedragonslayer (talk) 17:41, 23 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. The consensus is that there are sufficient sources available to support notability PhantomSteve/talk¦contribs\ 18:47, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ilham Naghiyev[edit]

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Does not meet WP:GNG. Both this article and its az.wiki counterpart cite quite a few articles by Ilham Naghiyev, but there appears to be virtually nothing written about Naghiyev, having searched Google, Google Scholar, and Proquest for both the latinized and Azerbaijani forms of the subject's name. The sole example of potentially-independent coverage is [9], which has no byline and is of unclear reliability, but even if we accept it as fully reliable we still need more examples of independent coverage. signed, Rosguill talk 20:16, 30 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There are independent and reliable sources written about the person, showing this article meets WP:GNG. For example, you can check this coverage about the person.[10]میرعلی 797 (talk) 22:48, 6 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That looks like an unbylined puff piece and would hesitate to call it reliable. signed, Rosguill talk 23:55, 6 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Rosguill You hardly ever can seen bylined articles in Azerbaijani media outlets. So, it does not make the source invalid and unreliable. To prove that I recommend you investigate the case.میرعلی 797 (talk) 22:36, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That hasn't been my experience reading Azerbaijani news. At any rate, even if we set aside the byline issue, it still reads like a PR puff piece. I don't see how anyone could take Ilham Naghiyev strives to merge business with the IT field, to identify innovations and future trends and continues his activities in these fields. His belief in the “specialization in specific fields can be a factor to strengthen the role of Azerbaijan in the world IT market” is a messenger of the forthcoming success of IT sector of Azerbaijan. as serious, independent coverage. signed, Rosguill talk 23:55, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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I understood, but bylined articles are not a must and criteria in Azerbaijani media outlets. As the article tries to cover the whole biography and activities of the person, I do not find the sentence mentioned as a PR puff piece. It seems that once the person has some activities in the aforementioned segments of business, author's tried to give brief information to their readers about it. میرعلی 797 (talk) 11:31, 17 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep without redirect: After the author adding more sources I can see that the person is notable. It has major coverage on Azerbaijani media and his activities are of high importance. --leilahuseynova (talk) 11:34, 27 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz Read! Talk! 19:56, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

William Dunn (Northern Mariana Island footballer)[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG and lacks WP:SIGCOV. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 21:27, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 19:54, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Jonathan Capayas[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG and lacks WP:SIGCOV. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 21:26, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. ♠PMC(talk) 19:30, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

John Bucayo[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG and lacks WP:SIGCOV. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 21:24, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. ♠PMC(talk) 19:29, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Joel Fruit[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG and lacks WP:SIGCOV. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 21:23, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. ♠PMC(talk) 19:28, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hark Galarion[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG and lacks WP:SIGCOV. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 21:22, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Everyone seems to be doing the right thing here. Nominator asserts an inability to find ready sources; !voters in this process seem to think sufficient sourcing is already applied and significance is asserted. Page creator has shown themselves willing to discuss and has made significant efforts to remove overly detailed material, per talk page discussions (and in response to this procedure). BusterD (talk) 04:33, 24 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Heinrich Schoeneich[edit]

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Overly-detailed article by WP:SPA. I'm not convinced the subject meets WP:GNG—I've been unable to find much on Google Scholar, the Wikipedia Library, or newspapers.com. See discussions at Talk:Heinrich Schoeneich and on the author's talk page. –Ploni (talk) 18:02, 30 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello Ploni. Thank you for your review of my article. It will probably be difficult for me to revise it to meet the criteria of the English-language Wikipedia (which it seems to have somehow managed to do in its yesterday's form for three years (?), but since I agree with you that it contained too much detail in relation to its overall length, I have thinned it out as a first step. That doesn't make it stylistically better, but at least less detailed. Perhaps this is a starting point where someone with more wiki experience and an innate linguistic competence would like to jump to my side, I would be very grateful for that. Otherwise, I see little chance for me to "defend" the article, as I can do little about the other points of your critique: Neither can I change the fact that no other articles refer to it, nor can I prove that, as already confirmed, there is no conflict of interest (how does one prove that one is or is not a Buddhist), nor can I give the subject a more prominent position on the international medical stage. The reason I suggested the article was not so much the surgeon's medical achievements, but his (officially and publicly recognised) work as a humanitarian activist in his area of expertise. Perhaps placing him in a category other than medicine would somewhat mitigate the contestability of his encyclopaedic significance. Marinus von Eisenstein (talk) 11:39, 8 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure) GustavoCza (talkcontribs) 13:23, 25 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Fun (Coldplay song)[edit]

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The song fails to present independent notability from the parent album, meaning its details can be discussed in said article. Chart information and certifications are covered on Coldplay discography as well. GustavoCza (talkcontribs) 20:50, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to A Head Full of Dreams. Liz Read! Talk! 05:43, 27 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Birds (Coldplay song)[edit]

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The song fails to present independent notability from the parent album, meaning its details can be discussed in said article. Chart information and certifications are covered on Coldplay discography as well. GustavoCza (talkcontribs) 20:51, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure) GustavoCza (talkcontribs) 12:42, 25 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Major Minus[edit]

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The song fails to present independent notability from the parent album, meaning its details can be discussed in said article. Chart information and certifications are covered on Coldplay discography as well. GustavoCza (talkcontribs) 20:51, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. PhantomSteve/talk¦contribs\ 18:50, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

South Education Center[edit]

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Continuing the discussion started at the talk page: the subject does not appear to meet WP:GNG and there is no Intermediate District 287 article that would serve as an adequate target per WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES. Virtually all the coverage cited is trivial with respect to the school, as it is routine news coverage of criminal incidents that occurred near the school (a shooting in February 2022, and an unrelated gun incident in September 2021). The sole exception (not counting sources affiliated with the school itself) is this citation to a trade publication which I am unable to access, but which would be insufficient for establishing GNG in the absence of other sources. Searching online and on ProQuest, I was only able to find more routine coverage of the gun-incidents, but nothing substantial about the school itself. signed, Rosguill talk 19:04, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It might be useful if the nom would have done even a basic WP:BEFORE before nominating. Here is a full article dedicated exclusively to how the South Education Center Alternative (SECA) won the national prize. I will not copy/paste the whole article, but I will note it is, again, yet another article with WP:SIGCOV of the school, and that it runs 755 words to narrate how the school wanted to participate in then-First Lady Michelle Obama's Healthy Kids Contest, how it assembled a team, how they came up and debugged their recipe, and how they participated in the finals in Texas, with the White House Chef, and won.[3][4] This new source is from 2011, so now the article features datelines from 2006, 2011, 2012, 2016, 2020, 2021, and 2022. With regard to the other SIGCOV material from WP:RS, the links are already provided above and in particular in the article. XavierItzm (talk) 22:11, 16 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The source linked in this comment says at the top This post was contributed by a community member. The views expressed here are the author's own. I don't think that counts as a reliable source. signed, Rosguill talk 19:43, 18 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The proper place to dispute reliability is here. It is now more evident than ever that no WP:BEFORE was done; consider for example this additional source, Food Safety News restating (in much abbreviated form) how South Education Center won the grand prize, the narrative of which is questioned above: Porcupine Sliders, turkey burgers jazzed up with brown rice, spinach, celery, garlic spices and dried cranberries, captured the grand prize in First Lady Michelle Obama’s Recipes for Healthy Kids competition. The Porcupine Sliders were served up by the team from Intermediate District 287, South Education Center Alternative in Richfield, Minn. at the national cook-off held during the American Culinary Federation National Convention earlier this week. White House chef Sam Kass acted as master of ceremonies for the cook-off.[5]
But beyond that: we have WP:SIGCOV from at least four sources which dedicated WP:INDEPTH coverage exclusively to the South Education Center: Finance and Commerce (2006); Patch (2011); Patch (2012) and Fox (2020), plus, of course the 15 other additional WP:RS cited in the article. XavierItzm (talk) 05:49, 19 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I take offense to the repeated assertion that I did not conduct a WP:BEFORE search, as I in fact detailed one in my opening statement. With the exception of a single source that I am unable to access and cannot comment on, I respectfully disagree with your definition of what constitutes significant coverage of a subject and maintain that we don't meet that bar here. One does not judge a school primarily by the quality of their porcupine sliders. If the coverage about the recipe contest included several paragraphs about the staff and kitchen at SEC, that would be significant in my view, but so long as it is focused almost entirely on a single recipe served at the school, I don't think we should count it. signed, Rosguill talk 15:01, 19 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
No ofense intended: the nom's original argument was that the WP:INDEPTH coverage of the school was insufficient despite its inclusion of the 2006 article Function and flexibility governs the design of South Education Center in Richfield from Finance and Commerce; ignored went by the 2012 articles Richfield SEC Students Turn Into Artists from Patch and 2020 Students, teachers create George Floyd tribute on Richfield fence from KMSP Fox, which provide further WP:INDEPTH exclusive and non-incidental coverage of the school's applied arts and therapeutic approaches to educating the "highest needs" students in the State of MN.
The argument was then raised that the USDA's national award to the school, as reported by CNN in 2016, was only incidental coverage; which might have been a fair objection... until a quick search yielded yet another WP:INDEPTH article about the school's educational approach and partnership with the community and how it won the national award: that's the 2011 article Richfield SECA's Journey to the Top of Healthy Kids Recipe Competition from Patch. This article, however, was questioned... so another quick search yielded yet another article, 2011's 'Porcupine Sliders' Win School Lunch Contest from Food Safety News, which corroborates 100% the article that had been questioned.
In conclusion, the process in this conversation has been: question -> net search yields response -> question -> net search yields response, etc., which, perhaps, could have been avoided at the outset.
One does take offence at the mischaracterisation of the school as if it were all about a sandwich: One does not judge a school primarily by the quality of their porcupine sliders. The referenced national award articles and other SIGCOV describe the schools's community- and partnership-based approaches to getting its marginalised student body to win a White House-directed competition (2011), as well as to inspire the students with the arts (2012) and with arts-based involvement in current affairs (2020), and it all in a highly engineered-for-purpose and advanced physical environment (2006). XavierItzm (talk) 08:07, 20 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ https://patch.com/minnesota/richfield/richfield-students-turned-artists
  2. ^ https://www.fox9.com/news/students-teachers-create-george-floyd-tribute-on-richfield-fence
  3. ^ Marsha Trainer (29 July 2011). "Richfield SECA's Journey to the Top of Healthy Kids Recipe Competition". Patch. Retrieved 16 July 2022. at the reception that evening,Guthrie, a Richfield South Education Center Alternative (SECA) teacher, along with Parasole corporate chef Todd Bolton, student Dolores Popescu and Bloomington Public Health Nurse Mary Lair, made and presented a recipe, which are mini turkey burgers, that her life skills class had helped to create and refine [...] the SECA group won top honors
  4. ^ Carina Storrs (4 January 2016). "Rules to make school lunches healthier are working, study finds". CNN. 3 of 13. p. 3. Archived from the original on 9 January 2016. Retrieved 12 July 2022. GRAND PRIZE WINNER [...] dreamed up by Chef Todd Bolton and students, community members and school professionals from the South Education Center Alternative School in Richfield, Minnesota((cite news)): CS1 maint: location (link)
  5. ^ https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2011/07/porcupine-sliders-win-school-lunch-contest/

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Comment to the comment. Agreed that there is little unique about this school, except the winning of national awards sponsored by the White House, and the incredibly broad coverage it has received from WP:RS across three decades, and which includes CNN (2016), The New York Times (2022), Finance and Commerce (2006), Food Safety News (2011), Patch (2011, 2012), KSMP Fox (2020), and a solid dozen other WP:RS, each single one of which is utterly and completely independent from the subject (and which include, for example, the Star Tribune, Minnesota Public Radio, etc.) Hey, any other plain, run-of-the-mill institutions which have this sort of deep and frequent nationwide coverage might also have their own Wiki entry, don't you think? XavierItzm (talk) 03:47, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was speedily moved. BD2412 T 01:00, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Valentina Azarova[edit]

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Proposed delete in order to make way for page move, or encourage article creation - currently, Valentina Azarova (athlete) is the only individual by this name to have an article on the English Wikipedia. QueenofBithynia (talk) 20:48, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No need for AfD. Please G6/G7 as cleanup from prior deletion (t · c) buidhe 20:49, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 19:23, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Lance Fresh[edit]

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No independent in-depth coverage in reliable sources, either those in the article or elsewhere online - lack of WP:SIGCOV. Fails WP:GNG and WP:NCREATIVE. Edwardx (talk) 19:23, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz Read! Talk! 19:51, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Beatrice Boahemaa[edit]

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Cannot find any independent in-depth coverage in reliable sources, either those in the article or elsewhere online - lack of WP:SIGCOV. Fails WP:GNG and WP:AUTHOR. No reviews found either. Edwardx (talk) 19:13, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. A consensus has transpired herein that the subject is notable and qualifies for a standalone biographical article. North America1000 08:42, 29 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Kyle Rittenhouse[edit]

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BLP1E fork of Kenosha Unrest Shooting article Springee (talk) 19:09, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You are the nominator, it's usual to put your comments in the nomination and not as a !vote. Andrevan@ 19:17, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I don't do these often and assumed the opening comments should be limited (similar to a RfC question). Springee (talk) 19:19, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I'm pretty sure !voting in your own nomination is against policy, not just unusual. @Springee, I suggest striking your bolded !vote/merge above, but keeping the reasoning text. For next time, your reasoning is typically included at the beginning of the article within the nomination rather than as a comment down below. Then the reason you've nominated is super accessible to all editors who can review it and discuss accordingly. I offer this suggestion in a friendly manner; though we disagree on the subject's notability, that's not a reason for me to not be cordial! --Kbabej (talk) 20:31, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
And I'm honestly not trying to be condescending/etc when I say you can find the strikethrough text here, which helps render words to look like this: example. Also, my past comment was a suggestion, not a demand; I'm not the owner of AfD. Cheers! --Kbabej (talk) 20:35, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I do appreciate other editor's thoughts and respectful dialogue. Feel free to respond/challenge my points above and tag me if you would like me to respond. I would like to point out the WP:IDONTLIKEIT essay, which is a reminder for editors (including me!) that although we may find a subject offensive, it still deserves coverage regardless of how we feel about it. In creating this article, I knew there would be pushback and concern surrounding it, but I created it in good faith fully believing the subject to pass GNG in my mind. If consensus is reached he is not notable, I will respect it. Cheers! --Kbabej (talk) 20:22, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
He MIGHT make a book. He's been OFFERED internships (It is worth pointing out that one of the congressmen who offered him an internship lost their primary, so that offer is surely off the table). He MAY sue some big name people. He MIGHT go to college. He MIGHT be making a video game. He MIGHT have a law named after him. This article MIGHT not be worth our time, regardless of whether or not we like it. The article doesn't indicate notability beyond the shooting and the public profile he got because of that shooting. He has done absolutely nothing except speak at TPUSA events, appear on Tucker Carlson a couple of times in close time frame to the acquittal, and appear on some podcasts, in which he talked about the shooting and the trial. FrederalBacon (talk) 01:36, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @FrederalBacon. I understand your position, but do not agree. You've stressed a lot of the things that "might" happen. The fact of the matter is some things have already happened, and he continues to get sustained coverage. The offers of internships have happened. The namesake bills have been proposed. The nomination for the Congressional Gold Medal has been made. The Acquittal video game has been released. The Global Network on Extremism and Ideology has released an analysis of meme use surrounding his image. His likeness has been used in a number of projects, including gun sales, clothing, and YouTube monetization. While some things "might" happen, there's still in-depth coverage in RS over a period of time for what has already transpired. The article is a BLP, not a list of potential future projects. --Kbabej (talk) 15:10, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
In how many of those sources is he talking about the shooting and/or the trial? Or is the focus of the source on him as the person involved in the shooting? All of those are already summed up in this section of the article this one is a fork of, and if this is all just sources covering him as the person involved in the shooting, then it actually fails BLP1E. Maybe some expansion about his media accountability project there, but the rest of it isn't notable. It's not notable to apply to a college. It's not notable to have a potential book deal. It's all just fluff. None of it is encyclopedic, and his notability doesn't extend beyond the shooting, the trial, and him talking about said shooting and trial after the conclusion of the latter. FrederalBacon (talk) 18:43, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
That’s your opinion, and you’ve made that very clear. I do not agree, and I’ve stated why above. Applying to a college isn’t the fact his notability hangs on, as I believe is quite clear in the article. Perhaps you’ll convince other editors, but I think there’s a wide enough breadth of continued coverage in reliable sources to support this BLP. You are of course welcome to reply, but I’ve made my position clear and will likely not be replying to your queries further. Cheers! —-Kbabej (talk) 19:41, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
1. If reliable sources cover the person only in the context of a single event.
2. If that person otherwise remains, and is likely to remain, a low-profile individual.
3. If the event is not significant or the individual's role was either not substantial or not well documented....
It uses the example of John Hinckley Jr. and why he should have a separate article. Rittenhouse's situation is similar. His actions got so much attention that he has and will continue to be covered for decades to come, for whatever he does, whether related to his actions that night in Kenosha or not.Jacona (talk) 15:34, 23 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
That sounds a lot like WP:CRYSTAL to me. It's also entirely possible that in 5 years, people will forget his name. FrederalBacon (talk) 18:33, 23 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
That isn’t what CRYSTAL means, and notability is not temporary. See WP:NTEMP. —Kbabej (talk) 19:04, 23 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The argument was that the example of John Hinckley Jr, that Rittenhouse, like Hinckley, will be "covered for decades to come, for whatever he does". That may have been true about Hinckley because he shot the President of the United States, but that is absolutely an attempt to see into the future to go "He's notable because people will be talking about him for decades to come" when it comes to Rittenhouse. FrederalBacon (talk) 19:52, 23 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@FrederalBacon, isn't that exactly the argument you're making as well? You're predicting its "entirely possible that in 5 years, people will forget his name." You're criticizing someone for an argument they made by making the same argument. We get you just don't like it. --Kbabej (talk) 20:31, 23 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Not at all, I couldn't care less, and actually have a view of the subject that would lead me more to keep the article than delete, but thanks for assuming this is personal. He's notable for one event. That's it. FrederalBacon (talk) 20:39, 23 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was speedy delete. CSD G7. Liz Read! Talk! 02:51, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

List of America's Funniest Home Videos episodes[edit]

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Fails to meet WP:LISTN, not an encyclopedic list topic. No significant coverage of every individual episode of this series, which could be used to write meaningful content, seems to exist. ComplexRational (talk) 18:57, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz Read! Talk! 19:46, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Quintessence (Finnish band)[edit]

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No evidence of notability under WP:NBIO, WP:NMUSIC or WP:SIGCOV (google search for sources). WP:GNG too. >> Lil-unique1 (talk) — 18:44, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

doomsdayer520: There seems to be some serious coverage, like this concert review in Helsingin Sanomat, the dominating Finnish newspaper. (Also a lot of coverage of Emma Salokoski. We should probably have an article on her specifically as well.) /Julle (talk) 23:25, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Via Google Translate, which I admit is not perfect, that article appears to be focused on the careers of Prättälä and Salokoski, who happened to be in the same place at the same time at a Quintessence concert. Since this AfD is about the band, it appears that they are typically mentioned as a side project in discussions about the individual members, but once again I could be persuaded if significant Quintessence-centric sources come to light. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 15:00, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, there's a reason I replied with a comment, instead of an outright keep argument. (: But I'm hopeful there might be something to dig up. /Julle (talk) 15:19, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect to Husky Rescue#Discography. ♠PMC(talk) 19:27, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Other World: Remixes and Rarities[edit]

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Looks like a non-notable release per WP:NALBUMS and WP:GNG after searching google sources >> Lil-unique1 (talk) — 18:40, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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La Misión, Tamaulipas[edit]

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They fail WP:NPLACE and in most of the cases, the articles lack real context and content beyond "it's an X in Y". Mexican states are not that small to qualify an article as La Misión, Northern Tamaulipas. There are 10 municipalities in northern Tamaulipas, exactly where is it located La Misión, Northern Tamaulipas? It's not said beyond the coordinates and basing myself upon that map, it seems to be that that town is in San Fernando, Tamaulipas, which is not at Northern Tamaulipas, but at Central-Northern Tamaulipas. All these articles were created 15 years ago when there were no real guidelines on the creation of minor places like these. Very few minor locations in Mexico (i.e. towns, villages, barrios and neighborhoods) manage to be as relevant as the municipalities in which they are located. (CC) Tbhotch 18:00, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz Read! Talk! 19:44, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Rush Creek, West Virginia[edit]

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I can find no evidence that such a place exists. There's nothing in the GNIS database, and (despite "Google Maps" being listed as a source) there's no label for this place on either the Google Map or the OpenStreetMap. There is a watercourse named Rush Creek that empties into the Kanawha River at 38°15′42″N 81°34′24″W / 38.2618°N 81.5734°W / 38.2618; -81.5734, with some evidence of mining to the west, but I see no "community" or Connell Road in the vicinity. Deor (talk) 17:25, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - I'm turning up the creek and a bridge over it, but nothing that suggests that this is the formal name of a notable community. This seems more like an informally named, vaguely defined local area, rather than something that would meet WP:GEOLAND. Hog Farm Talk 03:32, 23 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 17:18, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Morey Schwartz[edit]

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Fails WP:SIGCOV, WP:BIO. Single effective reference is local news. No coverage. scope_creepTalk 17:18, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete The article borders on WP:SPIP in that it appears to be written as an autobiography. The article lists his supposed achievements, however there appears to be no standout notability. ElderZamzam (talk) 11:48, 27 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Union of Law Scientists[edit]

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Fails WP:NCORP, WP:SIGCOV. Non-goverment, non public. Private org. Fails sigcov. scope_creepTalk 16:59, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 16:58, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

David Sandford[edit]

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Fails WP:NACTOR. scope_creepTalk 16:58, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to Righeira discography. (non-admin closure) ASTIG️🙃 (ICE-TICE CUBE) 16:30, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Bambini Forever[edit]

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Recreated after being deleted at AfD last year, but still fails WP:NALBUM. The article creator is determined to create articles for all of this group's records (they've recently created an article for a completely non-notable B-side), and many of them can be redirected, but seeing as this has already come to AfD before and the creator's refusal to accept that these articles are not notable, I have to bring this to AfD again. There is a lot of text here, but nothing that marks this album out as notable – the group had no. 1 singles in Italy, including a song from this album, but that song already has its own article, and it doesn't make this album notable. None of the group's albums ever charted – they were primarily a singles group. The "recording and production" section is one quote from one of the album's producers, talking entirely about the fact the group worked with other producers on subsequent albums... it says nothing about THIS album apart from it was the producers' last one with them. The "Songs" section is largely original research and simple descriptions of the songs such as "it was released as a single", "it was a B-side", etc. The only two songs with any kind of further information beyond "it exists" are the two singles, which already have their own articles and the information is not relevant to this album. There are no reliable sources here that talk about the album itself in detail and the redirect to Righeira discography should be restored. Richard3120 (talk) 16:24, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz Read! Talk! 19:42, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Samson Takayama[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG and lacks WP:SIGCOV. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 16:17, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 06:32, 23 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Driving licence in Brunei[edit]

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Subject fails GNG. While there are government sources which discuss the topic, this isn't a thing that media cover in-depth. This article by the same author was speedy-deleted in November 2020 so I'm seeking an AfD to prevent later re-creation. Chris Troutman (talk) 15:19, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Chris, you don't have to delete this. It might be useful for someone in the future. JackFreddanni (talk) 05:32, 16 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 15:08, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Real Madrid 1–2 FC Sheriff Tiraspol[edit]

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Although the outcome of this match was surprising and widely reported at the time, I find no evidence of lasting impact or coverage. In my search for significant coverage well after the match (no sources are currently present in the article), I found a blog post [17] and some brief mentions [18] [19], but I'm not sure that this is enough. Sourcing is otherwise what one would expect for any Champions League match, in which quite a few upsets occur every season. Therefore, I don't believe this match satisfies WP:EVENT or WP:SIGCOV. ComplexRational (talk) 15:04, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Any particular reason this is being considered for deletion? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ryllyld (talkcontribs) 15:08, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Ryllyld: - see above -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:34, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • There was a previous AFD, after which we moved it to draftspace. Joseph2302 (talk) 07:52, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    I was slightly mistaken, for which I apologise, and have re-worded. However, I still think that the article should be deleted. Fats40boy11 (talk) 13:26, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 14:57, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Putt (magazine)[edit]

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Golf magazine that only produced three issues, of which little significant independent coverage appears to exists. – Ploni (talk) 14:57, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. plicit 14:49, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ray Riling[edit]

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I am not finding any sources that give us indepth coverage of Ray Riling. The linked source is about his wife, and my searches at best find passing mention of him as someone who studied guns, but one sentence mentions at best. More often they are mentions of works published by Ray Riling Arms Books. I do not think we have enough to show he meets Academic notability 1 as a scholar who had a significant impact on his field, I found no reviews of his works, so I do not think he would pass author notability, and we clearly lack sourcing to pass GNG. John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:39, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Withdrawn. Being bold and withdrawing this myself - I nominated it. If we had sources like that white paper presented below I would have been less likely to nominate it again. Also, please avoid WP:THREATEN (re ANI) and remember WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. If there are "western" organization - or any other organizations geographically - that fail WP:GNG or WP:NORG please nominate them for deletion. Thank you and please assume good faith. Missvain (talk) 21:33, 21 July 2022 (UTC) Missvain (talk) 21:33, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Student Organization of Nairobi University[edit]

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The creator of this new version of this article - which was deleted yesterday, July 20 for not being notable - claims that the AfD was "unfounded" and decided to start another version of the article.

Here we go again. All of the sources presented are PASSING MENTIONS of the "Student Organization of Nairobi University" except one.

Most of the reliable secondary sources talk about the leadership or people who have been involved with the organization, not specifically about SONU.

This is supposedly NOT the same organization as the "University of Nairobi Students Association."

The only article that contributes to this subject's notability is The Standard article.

I am still struggling to see how this organization meets WP:NORG.

Perhaps the new student union is notable and meets reliable secondary sources, but, I do not believe this specific organization, the now defunct SONU, is not.

I'd also recommend this for WP:SALT. I am happy to salt it if reviewers recommend it. Missvain (talk) 14:42, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Likewise from University Crisis, Student Activism, and the Contemporary Struggle for Democracy in Kenya, Jacqueline M. Klopp and Janai R. Orina, African Studies Review, Vol. 45, No. 1 (Apr., 2002), pp. 43-76, (12 mentions of SONU)
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The result was keep. plicit 14:17, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Pascal Estrada[edit]

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WP:NFOOTY no longer exists and this subject fails WP:ANYBIO. Much of the coverage I could find online comes from the clubs where the subject plays, media networks who broadcast his games, and the league in which he plays. I don't think molineux.news is a reliable source as it looks like some over-eager fan page. Decent media like Birminham Mail and Sky Sports he's a mere mention. Chris Troutman (talk) 13:52, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. ♠PMC(talk) 07:55, 3 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Mirza Ahmad[edit]

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Non-notable attorney, also fails WP:NPOL, WP:GNG, despite run for mayorship. Amon Stutzman (talk) 10:25, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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I think the ref to NPOL was to make precisely your point - although the article talks about roles in local government he did not hold elected office, so cannot be an NPOL pass. Mccapra (talk) 12:32, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
By that standard, every single person on the planet who isn't a politician fails WP:NPOL, so its citation is fairly pointless! -- Necrothesp (talk) 09:32, 20 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz Read! Talk! 00:56, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Peter Lucey[edit]

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Sources are lacking, not surprising for a manager of a junior camogie team. Clarityfiend (talk) 12:59, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. WP:NPASR applies. plicit 14:17, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Linc Pen & Plastics[edit]

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Why the page should be deleted Deb (talk) 12:56, 7 July 2022 (UTC) Looking back over the history of this article, it does not appear ever to have been anything but an advertisement for the company, and several of the contributors would appear to have an undeclared COI. It doesn't even contain a serious claim to notability and has been marked for better references for a few months as well as having been unsuccessfully proposed for deletion. Time for it to go. Deb (talk) 12:54, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. plicit 14:18, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hengihengi Ikuvalu[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG and lacks WP:SIGCOV. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 13:21, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 13:20, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Alexander Victor[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG and lacks WP:SIGCOV. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 13:19, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 13:19, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Darrell Ioane[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG and lacks WP:SIGCOV. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 13:18, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. plicit 14:19, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sam Kome[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG and lacks WP:SIGCOV. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 13:15, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 13:14, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Jordan Penitusi[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG and lacks WP:SIGCOV. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 13:14, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. plicit 14:20, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Walter Pati[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG and lacks WP:SIGCOV. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 13:11, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. I find Sportsfan's analysis of the coverage persuasive. The two keep arguments that follow are extremely weak. The plain keep is hardly an argument at all. The weak keep makes a better argument but still presents no sources. ♠PMC(talk) 07:58, 3 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ramin Ott[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG and lacks WP:SIGCOV. Besides the FIFA article. there is no sources that satisfy either criteria. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 13:10, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Ach.de.graf

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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 13:09, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Diamond Ott[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG and lacks WP:SIGCOV. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 13:09, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy deleted under CSD G5 by Ponyo on 22 July 2022. (non-admin closure)NJD-DE (talk) 21:30, 27 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Izin Hash[edit]

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Hope subject meets both WP:GNG and WP:NACTOR very well. There are so many international articles about the subject to prove his notability . But one user move this to draft space. Finally, decided let this go through AFD. If this fails the criteria, then delete. Thank you. That Mallu Guy (talk) 11:57, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Reply as per WP:NACTOR, he passes the criteria. He has significant roles in multiple notable films and advertisements. Kindly please do a WP:BEFORE, before voting delete. He has significant coverage in international newspapers as well. That Mallu Guy (talk) 01:14, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Dougal McNeill[edit]

The result was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure) Gusfriend (talk) 12:31, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]


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Does not appear to meet the requirements of WP:PROF with a h-index of 4 (per Google Scholar) and no fellowships of journal editorships. Mentions in Stuff, etc. do not appear to be sufficient to satisfy WP:BIO. Gusfriend (talk) 11:28, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. (non-admin closure) ––FormalDude talk 07:03, 4 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Lola Zunnunova[edit]

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The article does not meet WP:GNG. I examined all of the sources.
In the final analysis, the article is inappropriate for an online encyclopedia. A clear example for WP:REFBOMB. Speedy delete. Kadı Message 20:44, 11 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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I don't see anything new being provided. ~StyyxTalk? 11:44, 19 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Arbitrarily0, courtesy ping. Kadı Message 21:13, 20 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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My previous relisting did not successfully place this page on the current log page, so this discussion did not receive any additional attention. My apologies. Thank you, Kadı, for the ping. Let's give this another week to attract comments. Arbitrarily0 (talk) 11:26, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I've removed ref 4. Its a real dog and I can't get by it, so I don't think the reader will either, if the article is kept. scope_creepTalk 09:57, 3 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 10:53, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Urs Meisterhans[edit]

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Apparent autobiography of a WP:MILL financial services professional. Nothing in the (blatantly self-promotional) text or the sources suggests notability per WP:GNG.

The most interesting aspect of his biography is conspicuously not mentioned in the article: In 2021, Meisterhans was charged by US federal prosecutors with financial crimes, which he denies. He was also convicted for financial crimes in Switzerland, and has appealed. He now works as a kiosk tenant in Switzerland. All this was covered in a recent article in the Swiss online paper Republik. But being an alleged criminal is the only remotely interesting thing about him, and in my view passes below the WP:ONEEVENT bar.

If people nonetheless consider him notable, the article would need to be entirely rewritten and would probably need to focus on his alleged criminal career, so WP:TNT would be an option. Sandstein 10:53, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. plicit 11:08, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Rod Zullo[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:ARTIST. Run-of-the-mill artist. Cannot find any better sources. Edwardx (talk) 10:30, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 10:04, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Julian Aguirre Agudelo[edit]

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Does not meet WP:GNG, player has received no coverage in secondary sources. With NFOOTY no longer being in use, he does not pass an SNG. Devonian Wombat (talk) 10:04, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. plicit 11:10, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Adrian Benegas[edit]

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Paraguayan heavy metal composer, producer, keyboardist etc. Tagged since March, no improvement. Sourcing is patchy, at best - fails WP:GNG, WP:MUSICBIO no notability, no chart positions for music, notability outside band (itself not a bluelink). Lacks sigcov across all roles. Alexandermcnabb (talk) 09:35, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn. Liz Read! Talk! 05:35, 27 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

John Mason (schoolmaster)[edit]

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School headmaster doesn't seem to meet WP:NBIO - lacks in-depth coverage in independent sources. MrsSnoozyTurtle 08:59, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination withdrawn. MrsSnoozyTurtle 08:23, 25 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep, nomination withdrawn and no !votes to delete. XOR'easter (talk) 00:24, 22 July 2022 (UTC) (non-admin closure)[reply]

Higher Earth[edit]

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Comic series which lasted one issue doesn't seem to meet WP:GNG - coverage is mostly routine reviews. Perhaps merging into Sam Humphries is an WP:ATD? MrsSnoozyTurtle 08:49, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination withdrawn. Apologies, I got confused from looking at an older version and through that only one issue had been published. Regards, MrsSnoozyTurtle 22:25, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Fearsome Wilderness[edit]

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The article relies on three refs- two YouTube videos considered as SPS and a BGG link with just 30 ratings. On Google, News, Books, and BGG, no RS could be found. GNG is not met at all, and the development section is unsourced (OR or from Kickstarter, which is unrefed?). VickKiang (talk) 07:42, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 04:58, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

List of world production[edit]

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Of course production is notable as a general concept and people measure the production of specific things, but that is not enough to justify this list of "world production". This is a collection of statistics where no consistent methodology is discernible. For example, different ideas of what counts as production are applied for different chemical elements; different years are mixed together. The results can't meaningfully be compared, especially across sectors. A hypothetical acceptable list would need to be rescoped, renamed, and rewritten with completely replaced content and sourcing – in other words, not the same page at all. Adumbrativus (talk) 06:45, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz Read! Talk! 04:57, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Embassy of Argentina, Vienna[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG. The article just confirms basic details like address and who was a past ambassador. LibStar (talk) 06:28, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn. Significant amount of sources found to improve the article. (non-admin closure) Fats40boy11 (talk) 12:14, 24 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Shui On Centre[edit]

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Does not meet notability guidelines. The building was built in the 1980s, but does not seem to have any significant background, apart from being an office building, or history. If I am missing something important about this building, then please let me know. Fats40boy11 (talk) 05:50, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. plicit 14:29, 26 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Winning Moves[edit]

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Originally PRODed by Piotrus, which (see 1) I endorsed, but reverted by IP editor with the rationale "take it to AfD". Article links four refs, ref one couldn't be opened, refs 2 and 3 are trivial (too short), and ref 4 is not independent. I don't think this meets GNG, and couldn't find any refs, so I am taking this to AfD. VickKiang (talk) 10:57, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. There might be "no need to create a page" but we aren't dealing with the potential creation of an article but an article that has already been created. WP:Too early is an essay on notability that I don't feel rule bound to follow when I consider whether or not the project would be better off with or without an article on this subject. Two hundred years might seem far off but there could be reasons readers would be interested in these predictions in our current times though they will not be alive when they happen, just like readers are interested in events that happened thousands of years ago before they were alive. We're an encyclopedia, there is room for all types of reliably sourced information here, whether or not it will personally affect the lives of our readers. Liz Read! Talk! 05:32, 27 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Lunar Saros 162[edit]

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Too early:The most recent lunar eclipse of the cycle will not be visible until 200 years later, so there is no need to create a page that points to the solar saros now. Q𝟤𝟪 08:58, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. plicit 02:08, 26 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Marty Logan[edit]

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No indication of notability and sources. Fails GNG. DavidEfraim (talk) 05:44, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 04:52, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Animal (upcoming film)[edit]

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Upcoming film whose production is not yet notable under WP:NFF. Draftification was reverted by article creator with little improvement.

Propose to delete this page since a draft already exists at Draft:Animal (2023 film) which is in a better condition than this article. -- Ab207 (talk) 05:21, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn by nominator. Improvements and expansion have been made to the article in light of new reliable sources being added.(non-admin closure) Fats40boy11 (talk) 20:41, 26 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Theatre Royal, Southampton[edit]

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This article fails WP:GNG. The former theatre was destroyed in 1940, but I can’t seem to find many sources on the subject matter. There is only one reference in the article, which I’m not sure passes as reliable (someone can correct me if this is otherwise). Unless people can find some reliable sources, which I have not been able to, I’m not sure as to whether we can keep the article. Fats40boy11 (talk) 05:05, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 00:48, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Huang Chia-hsin[edit]

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Fails WP:NBAD and WP:GNG zoglophie 04:48, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Cunard thanks for the excellent sourcing, which could satisfy GNG. I hope you can help in improving the article. zoglophie 07:39, 25 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Cunard Stvbastian (talk) 01:53, 26 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Nomination withdrawn. Star Mississippi 14:17, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Southampton Archives[edit]

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Article fails WP:GNG. Only one source, which is primary, is used throughout the whole article. Also, there is little to no content. A merger is also a possibility, but I don’t think the article deserves its own standalone in its current form. Fats40boy11 (talk) 04:42, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Guerillero Parlez Moi 17:29, 7 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Rhythm Boyz Entertainment[edit]

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No significant coverage. Fails GNG Alphaonekannan (talk) 03:11, 6 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 06:28, 23 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Paul Bunyan Land[edit]

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Slightly unnotable amusement park which has no reliable sources at all and it fails WP:GNG and lacks WP:SIGCOV . `~HelpingWorld~` (👽🛸) 02:48, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 04:45, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

2021 All-Japan artistic gymnastics championships - Men's qualification[edit]

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Fails WP:NGYMNASTICS and WP:NSPORTS. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 03:13, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 04:45, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

2021 All-Japan artistic gymnastics championships – Men's artistic team all-around[edit]

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Fails WP:NGYMNASTICS and WP:NSPORTS. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 03:12, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Originally closed as No Consensus, overturned to Delete at Deletion review -- RoySmith (talk) 16:11, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Lemusa Alatasi[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG and lacks WP:SIGCOV. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 02:40, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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If people need to work on the article, they can do so from user or draft space. I don't see the point in keeping an article just on the off chance that they might be notable. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 10:47, 24 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. plicit 14:12, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Financial Planners in Malaysia[edit]

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Unnecessary, essay-like, and OR. Bringing to AFD since it was previously PROD'ed in 2012. Ploni (talk) 01:28, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to Betty Who#Discography. Article can be restored once the album has received enough coverage to meet either WP:FUTUREALBUM or WP:NALBUM. (non-admin closure) ASTIG️🙃 (ICE-TICE CUBE) 02:05, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Big! (Betty Who album)[edit]

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This article is not ready for mainspace and requires incubation. Had either of the singles released in advance of the album's release charted, I'd say we'd have a case for going ahead and creating an article. However, the article fails to assert notability per WP:NALBUM: the BroadwayWorld piece is just a rewrapped press release, and the Paper interview focuses on Who, not Big!. If this album were by The Who, there'd be enough press coverage to easily meet WP:GNG, and I'd have no problem with an article at this point, since we have a title and a release date. However, with all respect to Betty Who, it's a little more of a speculative gaze into the crystal ball to expect this album to chart upon release. That said, rather than deleting the article outright, I'd like to park it in draft space for now, so we can continue to refine it and bring it live quickly if it hits specific notability in the future.
Given that there was at least one one !vote to keep in the aborted first AfD, I consider a unilateral move to Draft: space to be contested. Therefore, per WP:Drafts, I am opening discussion to move it to draft space at AfD. —C.Fred (talk) 02:01, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 00:44, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

MeeWha Alana Lee[edit]

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Fails WP:SIGCOV, WP:NACTOR. Artist who became actor but coverage doesn't support either. Potentially notable. scope_creepTalk 17:54, 6 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Coverage for both artist and actor careers are clearly cited in the article. Not really clear on how this got marked for deletion since this individual has a title role in a Sam Raimi produced movie as well as many other well-cited roles specifically listed in the article. Artist career cited sources also show evidence of widespread activity in visual art in gallery, academic and corporate settings with awards won. Hyungsubshim (talk) 18:48, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I vote keep. In addition, I concur with all the points clearly articulated by @Hyungsubshim to retain the article. Shoebox911 (talk) 14:58, 10 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This is frankly laughable. In a matter of weeks this article was accepted by a reviewer who clearly checked it for notability to being marked for deletion. Seems like another article found by a deletionist. FourPaws (talk) 03:06, 8 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@FourPaws Getting through AFC is not a guarantee that the subject of an article is notable and it certainly does not make a page exempt from a deletion nomination - some of our highest volume AFC reviewers work on the basis of "an accepted article should have a 50% chance of surviving an immediate AFD nomination". Instead of attacking other editors and making baseless comments about the nomination being "laughable" how about clearly explaining why this person passes WP:NBASIC WP:NARTIST or WP:NACTOR and what sources support them passing. 163.1.15.238 (talk) 14:11, 8 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I was just expressing an opinion, Mr. Random IP Address. I'm not sure how I'm "attacking" editors when I spoke in such broad terms undirected at anyone particular. Other than abusing the English language and expressing severe intolerance to other opinions I think you're demonstrating a more damaging appearance. Again, just my own opinion, feel free to believe otherwise. I didn't mean to poke a nerve there. I'm sorry I used an adjective you disapproved of. Regardless, I say Keep by default since no one has given a counter argument. FourPaws (talk) 19:05, 10 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
So there is a lot of them, so that means they are notable. I don't think so. I'll examine the sources and show what appears on WP:BEFORE. scope_creepTalk 04:37, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Femke (talk) 16:08, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Angelica Rock[edit]

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Small private island that once had a windmill and large house; fails to meet notability criteria in WP:GEOLAND. Balon Greyjoy (talk) 00:18, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep It seems notable, because:

  1. It was in the news in 2018: Bird sightings. (2018, Feb 11). Boston Globe Retrieved from https://www.proquest.com/newspapers/bird-sightings/docview/2000707677/se-2
  2. Also this year Bird sightings from mass audubon. (2022, Jan 01). Boston Globe (Online) Retrieved from https://www.proquest.com/newspapers/bird-sightings-mass-audubon/docview/2615625560/se-2
  3. It was the subject of this piece: https://www.westislandweather.com/angelicarock.htm
  4. And this one https://www.southcoasttoday.com/story/news/local/advocate/2013/02/28/angelica-rock-once-peaceful-retrieve/49063195007/
  5. It's mentioned 8 times in this book, which has a page about it Mussel Watch Project Site Descriptions, Through 1997. (1997). United States: U.S. Department of Commerce, National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, National Ocean Service, Office of Ocean Resources Conservation and Assessment, Coastal Monitoring and Bioeffects Assessment Division.
  6. It's mentioned here as a spider habitat Edwards, Robert L., and Annabel D. Edwards. “Life History and Ecology of the Armored Spider Monoblemma Muchmorei (Araneae, Tetrablemmidae).” The Journal of Arachnology, vol. 34, no. 3, 2006, pp. 599–609. JSTOR, http://www.jstor.org/stable/4149974. Accessed 13 Jul. 2022.

Comment Again I am left wondering if you did all the searches before nominating this one and all the others. CT55555 (talk) 02:34, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The only articles where it is the subject of the content are a local news article about the island's sale, and the West Island Weather website. I would not consider the latter a WP:RS, as it seems to be a personal website. The South Coast Today article is simply about the island's sale, and doesn't really establish the location's notability any more so than other large private properties. I did not find the same articles and books when I did my Google Books/News/Scholar searches, but all coverage in both the sources above and what I found before creating this nomination listed Angelica Rock as a location, but it was not the subject, nor a major part, of the content. There is not WP:SIGCOV about Angelica Rock to merit an article. Balon Greyjoy (talk) 09:45, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The local news site provides significant coverage, I see no reason to say it is not reliable or independent. It is not simply about the sale, it gives the history of Dr. Aris T. Papas endeavours to turn the island into a residence, the windmill build etc.
I think source 5 above could also be considered significant, I used it to improve the article.
Please note WP:GEOLAND criterion 4, which says Named natural features are often notable, provided information beyond statistics and coordinates is known to exist. This includes mountains, lakes, streams, islands, etc. The number of known sources should be considered to ensure there is enough verifiable content for an encyclopedic article.. We have more than the statistics and coordinates. So I think that is satisfied.
I've improved the article a bit today, I'm about to do some more. CT55555 (talk) 13:06, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The article has definitely been improved, but I still don't believe Angelica Rock has sufficient notability to merit an article. The only information specifically about it is that it's a one-acre property that once had an owner-made windmill. The fact that it has common beach wildlife does not make it any more significant. I don't think Angelica Rock's story is any more notable than the story of a private property that included a beach; the only difference is that it is on an island in this case. Balon Greyjoy (talk) 09:58, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough. I respect your argument. I remain of the opinion that it is notable. I think people are writing about it because it's an island, I think that provokes human interest. But the writing is dominated by one writer and it's not the most compelling keep argument I ever made. I thought for a while the doctor lived on the island, which would have made it a habituated place and therefore a clear pass at WP:GEOLAND but he didn't get the buildings up, which doesn't give it a clear pass at GEOLAND. I remain thinking we should keep this. But I respect that it is a decision where sensible people might disagree. All the best, CT55555 (talk) 12:23, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 00:37, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Jordan Riley[edit]

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Seemingly NN writer and composer. While he's worked with some notable folks, notability is not inherited. Could not find anything covering this individual (plenty about the basketball player and the MMA artist). Toddst1 (talk) 00:14, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Riley is producer of current Top 10 Global hit and is one of the most influential music producers in the UK. Crazy What Love Can Do has gone top 10 in multiple countries.
In relation the entry written about, sponsorship products show significance. https://www.mixonline.com/the-wire/producer-and-songwriter-jordan-riley-adds-the-power-of-pmc-to-his-garden-studio
His name is often used in ways to advertise artists work, due to being an influential name in the music world.
https://www.banquetrecords.com/ella-henderson/everything-i-didn’t-say/0190296399077
He has his own page on Tidal Streaming service. https://tidal.com/browse/mix/006d7a8349e6c234ecaccb80064cb9 81.105.104.226 (talk) 16:59, 1 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Riley is producer of current Top 10 Global hit and is one of the most influential music producers in the UK. Crazy What Love Can Do has gone top 10 in multiple countries.
In relation the entry written about, sponsorship products show significance. https://www.mixonline.com/the-wire/producer-and-songwriter-jordan-riley-adds-the-power-of-pmc-to-his-garden-studio
His name is often used in ways to advertise artists work, due to being an influential name in the music world.
https://www.banquetrecords.com/ella-henderson/everything-i-didn’t-say/0190296399077
He has his own page on Tidal Streaming service. https://tidal.com/browse/mix/006d7a8349e6c234ecaccb80064cb9 81.105.104.226 (talk) 17:07, 1 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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