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The result was delete. Mz7 (talk) 04:45, 12 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Katya Elise Henry[edit]

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An atrociously promotional BLP without a single word of referenced text. For some inexplicable reason speedy deletion was disputed. With utterly useless content like Henry is a glamorous fitness model, who became popular through the social networking platforms. She has a big following because of her stunning physique and her ideas to maintain the figure. This gorgeous and hot model is equally popular on twitter, facebook, and Instagram amd potential sources like Bootylicious beach babe Katya Elise Henry reveals all in barely-there bikini and Katya Elise Henry is one of the sexiest models on Instagram, not to mention gossip column reports of her engagement to a minor pop star as regular and credible as those of Jennifer Aniston's many pregnancies, the likelihood of notability here is next to none, and barely a shred of the existing text would be salvageable. WP:TNT this mess. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo). Treated like dirt by many administrators since 2006. (talk) 23:33, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Mojo Hand (talk) 04:12, 13 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Karol Bedorf[edit]

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As per WP:MMANOT and only one source. SQGibbon (talk) 23:02, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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I agree that those two do not appear to meet WP:GNG or WP:NMMA, but it may be a bit late to include them in this discussion. Papaursa (talk) 01:45, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep – clear consensus and withdrawal request. (non-admin closure) Laurdecl talk 08:35, 8 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ritz's Equation[edit]

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A fringe theory, at odds with the science of the time, never mind our modern understanding. Relies primarily on first party sources, no evidence it was taken up by anyone or achieved the sort of wider notoriety required for fringe theories. JohnBlackburnewordsdeeds 22:56, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. North America1000 06:11, 13 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Mounes Kalaawi[edit]

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Promotional Rathfelder (talk) 21:27, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. (No prejudice against speedy renomination per relatively low participation herein.) North America1000 04:55, 12 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Zine (songwriter)[edit]

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As far as I can tell, she fails Wikipedia:Notability (musicians) (her music doesn't chart, etc.) and the niche (regional, from her city of Nice) coverage she gets fails broader NBIO. If anyone thinks she passes, please cite reasons/sources I missed. My French is intermediary, so I might have missed some sources. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 16:16, 21 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello, I have provided some sources in the article itself. Yes they are in French and Occitan. Of course Occitan songwriters are far from mainstream, but is wikipedia limited to mainstream information? Compare with Patric, one of the main Occitan singers of the 1970s/80s/90s (he's still active, by the way). I have just found the MusicBrainz record, not much info, but found one interesting link there, Zine performed back vocals (in Turkic) on Aynur's LP in 2005. So not so "niche". For the pics, I've posted a message on commons. Thanks in advance. --— J. F. B. (me´n parlar) 11:29, 22 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. (No prejudice against speedy renomination per relatively low participation herein.) North America1000 04:59, 12 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Arnis at the 2013 Palarong Pambansa[edit]

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Non-notable sports event. Violates WP:Sports event. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 23:40, 20 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to List of causes of genital pain. czar 21:43, 12 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Genital pain[edit]

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Correct use of redirect repeatedly overwritten to copy lists from other articles. User is doing this with multiple pages on this topic, simply duplicating existing info. JamesG5 (talk) 03:11, 28 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

No, I am adding content to these pages. Can't you show a little patience? Seriously, look at the testicular pain article, that's what I aim to have for these new pages, and it will take me just a few minutes to get them to a point where they have enough content so that they aren't simply a copy of any existing article. Please be patient, thanks! :) Ethanbas (talk) 03:15, 28 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
What do you think of Penile pain for remaining? I've gone ahead and copied the 4 pages I created to user space. I think though that essentially, these articles (minus maybe strangulation, although I'm working on seeing if that should be an article), I think these articles should be articles on Wikipedia. A lot of different things could be put in them. Ethanbas (talk) 03:40, 28 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Penile pain seems like a possibility if it's framed as something more along the lines of "types" rather than "causes" (i.e. "penile pain may refer to..."). No strong opinion, though. I haven't seen the various other articles, but since the real issue here is duplication of content, I don't see any reason to assume they couldn't be perfectly good articles once they have more original, sourced content. In other words, my !vote here shouldn't be interpreted as any sort of prejudice against the recreation of these pages later -- only that based on what was currently there, at the time I !voted, it was clear that it should be redirected. If they've been redirected, I think this (and any other such thread that may be open) can be speedily closed by the nominator or a third party. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 04:00, 28 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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I'd prefer to keep the page, giving it a prominent link to the 'list of causes of' page in place of the current duplicated content. That would encourage other editors to develop the page, and it makes better sense long term, since the causes of genital pain are one (obviously important) aspect of the topic, not the whole. Still, if it does go back to being a redirect and then change again later it's at no great cost. I'll contact Ethanbas separately to see if I can help with the drafts (not that I know anything about the topic, so I doubt I can do a whole heap). Mortee (talk) 19:36, 6 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Hi all, I'm busy with other things, and I already told Mortee I'm unable to work on these pages (vaginal pain, penile pain, genital pain) for the near future. I do follow Mortee's line of thinking when he says, keep the page and encourage other users to develop it somehow, and keep the page because there is clearly material that could be added that isn't on the already existing penile injury article, I just don't have time to work on this stuff anymore. Ethanbas (talk) 22:00, 6 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
My comment was not a case of "work on it or shut up". You have no duty to continue editing articles you "abandoned" midway - but equally, we have no duty to adopt those articles. I fail to see why a non-redirect article would be useful; I could be convinced, but unless it is imminently coming I do not see why an "article" that is a poor duplication of a natural redirect should be kept in mainspace. TigraanClick here to contact me 08:59, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The idea is that, as a redirect, the article will probably never get worked on, while if it stays up as a stub, someone might work on it. Ethanbas (talk) 17:22, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I understand that. If I knew for certain that eventually (even after a long time) someone would turn that into an article with more value than a redirect, I would support keeping. The problem is, right now it is a poor duplicate of the list and if I had to write the article I would not know what to do. Per WP:RUBBISH, asserting that an article merely needs improvement to withstand a deletion nomination is not a persuasive argument to retain it. - such assertion must be proven. TigraanClick here to contact me 17:30, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Sure. I don't have a problem with redirecting the article at this point. Ethanbas (talk) 18:12, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was speedy delete. G7 deletion. Primefac (talk) 13:31, 6 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Welcoming of Spring[edit]

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This article is not notable in its own right, and significantly duplicates the Marzanna article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rwrobson (talkcontribs) 21:12, 3 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. czar 21:45, 12 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Diamond Investment & Intelligence Center[edit]

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An organization with 3 employees is seldom notable. "Canonizing" all of the information in the world about diamond investments is marketing gibberish. Robert McClenon (talk) 20:36, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Doesn't try to prove notability, reads as an ad. The three references given are a quote from the creator in a NYT article, a mention in the acknowledgements section of a forbes article, and an article that actually covers them, though that's not enough. JerrySa1 (talk) 22:06, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. czar 21:45, 12 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Lawrence M. Miller[edit]

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Self-promotional article, labelled as such for 7 years, no real prospect for improvement. Catfish Jim and the soapdish 20:11, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure) Beyoncetan (talk) 17:28, 11 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I Bet (TLC song)[edit]

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The song did not chart and didn't have enough sources to conduct a full article. Beyoncetan (talk) 19:43, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Sarahj2107 (talk) 10:05, 13 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Dwen Gyimah[edit]

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No improvement to the article's content or sourcing since the previous AfD discussion. Passing mentions, roles as an "extra" and mentions in articles written by friends. Exemplo347 (talk) 19:18, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The article has been re-edited by one editor - you - and another editor has fixed a few errors, so that first statement of yours isn't accurate at all. Now, this article was returned to a Draft following the previous deletion discussion because you said you'd improve it. So why haven't you bothered? Exemplo347 (talk) 18:30, 6 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Agreed this article is about a young actor so sources could easily be updated as actor proceeds to be specified in futer articles for futer projects. This article has been drastically improved since the previous afd discussions age, sources, references, links to other wiki pages, has all been added which it did not include before, if you look at the article history you will be able to see that other contributors have re-edited and also improved the article. All article problems had been previously addressed and improved, notability has been proven by public interests from various different well known reliable sources, 'NME' being a big example as well as London Local which all address the subject as a fairy young but well established actor notable enough to be specified in articles for the large remainder of the public. Hanna Mania300 (talk) 09:51, 8 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Hanna Mania300: We had a discussion about duplicate !votes in the last AfD discussion. Don't start that again please. Exemplo347 (talk) 20:57, 6 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Thank you for addressing my attention to that. I have added 'comment' — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hanna Mania300 (talkcontribs) 21:25, 6 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. this article meets Wikipedia's notability requirements according to: WP:NASTRO WP:NN , The subject may just need regular updating in due course but in the mean time it passes wiki's standards and checks for articles on living persons, keeping in mind the public attention and age of the person, there is a lack of argument into why the article should be deleted from the encyclopedia. Danny578 (talk) 20:55, 7 February 2017 (UTC)Danny578 (talk) 23:27, 7 February 2017 (UTC) — Preceding Danny578 comment added by Danny578 (talk) • contribs) 20:41, 7 February 2017 (UTC) Danny578 (talkcontribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. Strike !vote from confirmed sockpuppet[reply]

Maybe you should read WP:NASTRO before you use it as an argument! I note that your !vote doesn't address the specific issues I've raised. Exemplo347 (talk) 21:36, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Exemplo347: This article was re-edited, sources were re-reviewed, improvements were made, all by other editors. The only editors nominating this for deletion are the same editors from the previous deletion for this article which was dated in 2016. Please read the updated article carefully. This article has lasted a week of being in the main space without an issue by any other contributor, read the updated version in 2017 is clear that its being overlooked. This is an actors article meaning a career. Career's get updated as time goes by, this article should have been suggested for improvement not for deletion, and regardless the sources provided have proven public importance of the individual by not one but numerous sources and articles outside of wiki alone.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Danny578 (talkcontribs) 22:44, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
A) What other editors? I'm looking at the article's edit history right now, so please point out what other editors have made major changes? All I see are the article's creator and a few editors fixing the article creator's mistakes. And, B) - Why do you keep editing other people's comments in this discussion? Exemplo347 (talk) 22:46, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Exemplo347: A) The fact that you are the only two same editors that nominate this for deletion worries me. B) They improved, fixed, deleted, suggested, and added to the article. That is editing the article, making it better and sorting out the references and adding the main importance was what was added and improved by other editors. C) Where are clear indications that the article should be deleted and why was it not nominated by other editors rather than yourselves?Danny578 (talk) 23:34, 7 February 2017 (UTC)Danny578 (talk) 23:22, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Ah well, if you're not going to answer my questions or be open & honest then there's not much I can do. Exemplo347 (talk) 23:00, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Exemplo347: apologies, editing mistakes which sometimes occur via editing conflicts.Danny578 (talk) 23:34, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note -To Admin- The article has clearly been improved to a standard where I felt confident enough to move it in the main article space, the fact that this article is being requested to be sAlted by exemplo347 proves my example that he/she has not fully read or viewed the article at all but only nominated it for deletion based on its history, This article is of an actor who is clearly notable and relevant to the public eye and interests, sources are clearly reliable as some of the sources are from the biggest news sources in the UK., as any other wikipedia page, they will be thoroughly updated in due course and when needing to, the fact that these two are the only editors who want this deleted without proper reason confuses me, Exemplo347 please read WP:NN to understand wikipedia's standards. Hanna Mania300 (talk) 09:40, 8 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sure any Admin who reads this will be far more interested in the fact that you're using multiple accounts to edit Wikipedia. Exemplo347 (talk) 10:24, 8 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment The admins that read this will site out all user accounts, all IP Addresses and further more all contributors who have contributed to the article and tell that we are separate accounts, please stop pushing this matter in a case where you cant even argue relevant factors that needs the article to be deleted, you seem to have made various comments and notes barely proving why the article needs to be at all removed from the enclopedia. Hanna Mania300 (talk) 10:43, 8 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately your argument falls apart there. There has already been an investigation and it has been confirmed that you're using multiple accounts. I've pointed the investigation out on your talk page already, so I'm not sure why you're being disingenuous about it. Exemplo347 (talk) 10:49, 8 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. Nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure) Beyoncetan (talk) 21:57, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Return of TLC tour[edit]

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The page should be deleted because "Return of TLC tour" is not an official tour nor an official title that any source mentioned. However, the fact is that they did went on tour in 2016, but they usually performed as parts of festivals – not a part of a real, official "world tour". Beyoncetan (talk) 18:43, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

But if it does qualify as a tour (enough to have an article), even if it isn't called "Return of TLC Tour", then the best course of action would be to move it to a suitable title. — Smjg (talk) 22:56, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. czar 21:47, 12 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Bowl of Oatmeal[edit]

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Non notable film. Fails WP:GNG. Koala15 (talk) 17:53, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure)  B E C K Y S A Y L E 03:29, 13 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Do You Hear the Dogs Barking?[edit]

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the only source is an IMDB page. there are also no notable cast members Wasabi,the,one (Talk Contributions) 17:33, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to Angelo Litrico. (non-admin closure)  B E C K Y S A Y L E 03:28, 13 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Luca Litrico[edit]

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Fails our WP:GNG Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, which summarises what independent sources have published about subjects. I can find no in-depth coverage of him anywhere. Theroadislong (talk) 17:10, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete.  Sandstein  09:43, 13 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Mufassil Islam[edit]

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No indication of passing creative professionals and any biography. The subject was in news for only one event and I can't find anything else to support notability. GSS (talk|c|em) 16:58, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. czar 21:50, 12 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Roger Kittelson[edit]

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Mr. Kittlelson does not meet the specific notability requirements under WP:POLITICIAN. Whether the article meets the general biographical requirements are debatable. Dolotta (talk) 16:34, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Withdrawn by nominator. Can nominate for deletion under CSD G4 instead. Class455 (talk|stand clear of the doors!) 16:36, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

International Project Management Association[edit]

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Non notable organisation. Was previously speedy deleted under A7 but was recreated. Class455 (talk|stand clear of the doors!) 16:32, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy delete. author request Ronhjones  (Talk) 21:01, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Joydeep Chakrabortty[edit]

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Assistant Professor. Does not meet WP:GNG or WP:PROF - CSD (A7) disputed. WP:BEFORE search found nothing to indicate notability. Exemplo347 (talk) 15:51, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. czar 21:49, 12 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Edward James (historian)[edit]

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Insufficiently notable. CoolieCoolster (talk) 15:29, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Mojo Hand (talk) 04:15, 13 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Terry Hawkins[edit]

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Bio for a person who clearly has access to a very efficient PR team - searching for sources yields large numbers of press releases and other primary sources all showering her with accolades, but nothing that serves to meet WP:GNG. She's a motivational speaker, and she's done a lot of motivational speaking (cos that's her job, innit), but that doesn't in itself make her notable. bonadea contributions talk 15:23, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

FTR, I have cleaned it up a bit and removed some exaggerated/unsourced claims - the pre-cleanup version was a borderline G11 case. --bonadea contributions talk 15:26, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Clear consensus for deletion. North America1000 06:21, 13 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

2017 Marseille melee attack[edit]

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This is definitely not notable for inclusion on Wikipedia. Sure, there is coverage, but it is a minor incident involving an injured soldier. If we had articles for this kind of minor crime, we would be creating thousands every month. st170e 14:54, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was withdrawn. (non-admin closure) Shawn in Montreal (talk) 20:26, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Luxembourg (film)[edit]

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Fails WP:NFF - too soon for an article. st170e 14:47, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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@Erik: Thanks for finding this, I'm happy now to withdraw the nom. I couldn't find a source with evidence/info that it was in production. st170e 20:21, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete.  Sandstein  09:37, 13 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Army Men III[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG. Non-notable fan game. Topic lacks significant coverage from reliable independent sources. The1337gamer (talk) 14:14, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Reference 1 is some random YouTuber's channel. Not a reliable source.
Reference 2 is a ModDB page for a completely different game. It does not mention the subject of the article. It is also a primary source.
Reference 3 is a ModDB article on Unreal Engine. It does not mention the subject of the article.
Reference 4, 5, 6 are primary sources from the developer's of the fan game.
Reference 7 is an IndieDB page for a completely different game. It does not mention the subject of the article. It is also a primary source.
Not a single reference you've added contributes to the topic's notability. --The1337gamer (talk) 07:16, 6 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Reference 1: That "random YouTuber" is the game's storywriter and director. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kNLp6CIReo
Reference 2: It's not a game, its a mod, and its where Army Men III originated from, at least according to Franklin (the dev behind the game).
Reference 3: I was just adding reference to the UDK's release and I thought I was required to cite the source with the history behind the start of their game.
Reference 4, 5, 6: This was just to confirm what happened to the game. Is there really anything wrong with that?
Reference 7: I guess that was probably best left out.
I took another look at my last edit and maybe they should've been listed as external links instead so I will add more to this article tomorrow.
When you said "notable sources" are you looking for press coverage? Reviews? Interviews? --Vanguard2042 (talk) 01:01, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Make sure you read the criteria at WP:GNG. Take a look at WP:RS, which discusses what constitutes reliable sources. For video games, see WP:VG/RS list. We are looking for things like credentials, editorial oversight, peer review, etc. We are looking for sources independent of the author/developer. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 11:47, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I polished the page a bit, I thought there were at least a couple more news sources but it seems only one I can find is from Small Dev Talk which I already know about that. According to the articles HELLKNOWS linked me, it says for notability I need at least one existing source. Seeing Small Dev Talk has interviewed a lot of other games, hopefully it counts right? --Vanguard2042 (talk) 10:56, 8 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
UPDATE: For some reason, a bot deleted all of my work immediately for some reason when I moved the references to external links based on the advice here. Was I missing something? --Vanguard2042 (talk) 11:10, 8 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
WP:GNG talk in plural about sources, so you need multiple sources (that also fit all the other criteria). 2 would be really really stretching it, as you couldn't really write significant content from that. So 3+ is usually the minimum when discussing article deletion. Small Dev Talk source is an interview -- thus it is essentially a primary source as the developer themselves give information. This could supplement the sourcing, if the interviewer is a reliable source, but it does not count for notability. The bot reverted the change, because you--as a new user--added a plain youtube link, which is almost always misused. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 13:09, 8 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete.  Sandstein  09:42, 13 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Mario Herrera[edit]

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Apparently self-created article. Subject does not appear to meet WP:GNG and unclear which other specific category for notability could be met - references provided indicate he is the web designer/media spokesperson for a government department. Melcous (talk) 12:53, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete.  Sandstein  09:43, 13 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

J. Lewis[edit]

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I do not believe the subject meets WP:Music - without access to chart data, I can't comprehensively state this is fact, however I can't currently see any evidence for supporting this or any other of the music criteria, or even WP:GNG - there's a tiny bit of routine coverage of a Voice contestant, but nothing significant from trustworthy sources. When I first came across the article, it was very poorly written, like a fan-site, possibly with considerable WP:Copyvio, all added by a very seldom contributor 6 years ago (it looked like this). I have improved and wikified it, however now I question its notability. Rayman60 (talk) 22:09, 21 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. Closed with no prejudice against speedy renomination. Mz7 (talk) 14:56, 12 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Skate Helena[edit]

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Non-notable figure skating skating event. Almost exclusively results based sources. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 20:34, 21 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. (No prejudice against speedy renomination per no participation herein other than from the nominator.) North America1000 00:44, 12 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

80's remix[edit]

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I am honestly not sure about this one, I am pretty certain it shouldn't be a standalone article, as it appears to be mostly WP:SYNTH as it stands at the moment, though some of this material could be used in the Remix article perhaps. InsertCleverPhraseHere 08:15, 21 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. (No prejudice against speedy renomination per low participation herein.) North America1000 00:45, 12 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Prasuton Manorah (TV series)[edit]

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Fails WP:TVSERIES, as tagged since August 2008. Arguments in the 1st AfD do not actually establish notability. GeoffreyT2000 (talk, contribs) 01:28, 21 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Sarahj2107 (talk) 09:58, 13 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Gunz For Hire[edit]

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Non-notable musician. - TheMagnificentist 17:06, 28 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. (non-admin closure)  B E C K Y S A Y L E 03:24, 13 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Edith Merritt McKee[edit]

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This article was created in November, apparently as part of the University of Calgary/Introductory Geology (Fall 2016) project. However, the geologist doesn't appear to be notable. The closest thing to a claim of notability is "McKee was the first woman to work in the oil fields of Saudi Arabia." But even that's suspect; the reference to this (the only reference for the article) is an obituary in a small-town newspaper, the Petoskey News-Review in Petoskey, Michigan (population 5,670). The obituary itself, which was likely republishing information provided by surviving family members, seems to have errors, referring to the "American Institute of Petroleum Geologists", but probably intending either the American Association of Petroleum Geologists ([3]) or the American Institute of Professional Geologists ([4]); which suggests it is not a reliable source in any event.

I can't find any further information on McKee to establish notability. Since this is a school project, I notified the project and held off calling for the article deletion for a few weeks. I figured the professor who assigned the article to be created knows something to support notability, and it just needs to be added; and I didn't want to throw a new contributor into the Wikipedia deletion process if I can avoid it. But it looks like it's not being updated.

I normally would have PRODded something like this, but given that it was academically assigned, I'll bring it to AfD in case there really is something to salvage here. TJRC (talk) 23:34, 20 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

did you do a google books search? Beatley (talk) 20:28, 26 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, but found nothing other than directory entries, at least where the text was visible. TJRC (talk) 21:10, 26 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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  • [5] Chicago Tribune reports she made the first reliable drawing of bottom of Lake Michigan.
  • [6] Chicago Tribune article on her disagreement with Corp of Engineers on lake erosion
  • [7] Another Chicago Trib article on beach erosion.
  • [8] Chicago Trib article on lake polution.
  • [9] mention on erosion in Christian Science Monitor
  • [10] listed here as author of bulletin on Philippine Island terrain
  • [11] mention here on erosion study
  • [12] mention about lake bottom diagramming
  • recognized in Mar 2007 Professional Geologist mag for being member of AIPG/APGS for 40 years
  • AIPG 2003 History bulletin reported she gave testimony to Congress in 1975
  • [13] Geological Society of America publication confirms she worked in Saudi Arabia
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The result was delete. Kurykh (talk) 19:49, 13 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

1998 UCI Road World Championships start list[edit]

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Olympians and cyclists and weightlifters at World Championships BaldBoris 17:59, 28 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 00:53, 29 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Sportsfan 1234: A list of cyclists in a similar vain I AfDed since was speedily kept, see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of cyclists at the 2016 UCI Cyclo-cross World Championships. I'll leave it with you. BaldBoris 00:35, 30 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I would support a deletion of List of cyclists at the 2016 UCI Cyclo-cross World Championships as well. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 00:48, 30 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. SoWhy 13:12, 13 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Nepal Idol[edit]

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Article consists entirely of one infobox, no references, and a one-paragraph lead (which makes up the entire content). Not notable at all. Alex|The|Whovian? 00:24, 29 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. (non-admin closure)  B E C K Y S A Y L E 03:21, 13 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

2009 Volleyball Copa Latina[edit]

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Non-notable sports event. Violates WP:Sports event Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 21:06, 22 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Also nominating the following for the same reasons:

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The result was delete. postdlf (talk) 17:27, 12 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Pronunciation of asteroid names[edit]

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This article does not mention a single source even though unreferenced and OR flags have been added more than six years ago. It is likely that there are no sources for many of the pronunciations in this article. Seeing as there are abundant Category:Lists of asteroids, nothing is lost when this article is deleted.

I am also nominating the following related pages because it has the same flaws:

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--mach 🙈🙉🙊 12:15, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Consensus is for deletion. North America1000 05:09, 12 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Renaldi Gondosubroto[edit]

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Cannot find any sources did not pass Wp:Bio ~ Junior5a (Talk) Cont 01:38, 29 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep. Notable enough. Luckily, I am Indonesian so I do understand the language of the news articles, and I believe that they show evidence to keep the page. Did a search and there are even more sources for him than the news on the current page.Walrusrocks213 (talk) 00:13, 2 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Well referenced, so no problem about sources. Details continue to emerge so far from other news outlets and with him taking a leadership position at such an early age, such an article is inspiring. Brotherlandpol (talk) 03:12, 2 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Keep. The subject has been invited to speak in some of the events that I have attended. He has shown strong knowledge of entrepreneurship in Indonesia, and he deserves a place in Wikipedia. Smartd (talk) 07:26, 3 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete.  Sandstein  09:43, 13 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Josh Manuatu[edit]

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This person appears to be a minor political staffer with no particular notability. If it was true that he had "exchanged blows with Mia Freedman", he might be notable, but these appear to have been metaphorical. Grahame (talk) 11:45, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Sarahj2107 (talk) 09:57, 13 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Steven Dillon (football)[edit]

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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 11:38, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete.  Sandstein  09:42, 13 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hotel Yarab Tso[edit]

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The text is just a presentation of an hotel, whose notability isn't clarified. pt:Stegop talk 04:29, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

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The result was no consensus. (No prejudice against speedy renomination per no participation herein other than from the nominator.) North America1000 00:50, 12 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Global Spirit Tour[edit]

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Another concert tour that won't start for few months (start date: 5 May 2017), referenced only to primary sources. A merge suggestion from last October wasn't acted on yet. I suggest soft delete (redirect), so this is restored on May when there may be more sources and this passes Wikipedia:Notability (music) for concert tours. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 16:44, 21 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to Scottish Premiership. The consensus is that while this will likely merit a standalone article in the future, at the moment it is too early. Mz7 (talk) 14:51, 12 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

2017–18 Scottish Premiership[edit]

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This page does not meet WP:N, WP:V or WP:RS. It is far too early to know any information about the 2017–18 season, other than basic details. Exxy (talk) 11:32, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Agree with Exxy, we know very little about the tournament and we won't have sources to substantiate most of it until closer to the new season. Stevie fae Scotland (talk) 15:09, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. (non-admin closure)  B E C K Y S A Y L E 03:19, 13 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hydrogel agriculture[edit]

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This reads as WP:OR to me. Most of it is based on (now removed) predatory journals and the like Guy (Help!) 21:55, 21 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. With no prejudice against creating a redirect to Tarhuna if that article is expanded to include information about this subject. Currently, a redirect as suggested makes no sense since a reader will not find any information there. SoWhy 13:11, 13 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Al Sharshara[edit]

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PROD contested, no reason given. There is no evidence that this landmark is notable. GiantSnowman 10:40, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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"Lack of notability is a specious reason for deletion" - Really? Lack of notability is the main reason articles get deleted. As for lack of shelf space being a reason to not delete something - WP:NOTTOILETPAPER describes the general opinion about that argument. Wikipedia doesn't need articles about subjects that don't meet the General Notability Guideline. Exemplo347 (talk) 15:59, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
"[A]ny article can be improved..., and so deletion should be reserved for only the most outrageously slanderous, unsourced, badly written articles." So I spent time improving the article's English. How about lighting a candle rather than going around snuffing them out?Acad Ronin (talk) 18:16, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I like the idea of merging the original article, somewhat rewritten, into the Tarhuna page. Is there any way of finding out a more precise location? There is another, small green patch about 15 miles NNE of Tarhuna.Acad Ronin (talk) 02:52, 8 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Here's my suggestion, take it for what it is worth: The few RS hits I could find on Al Sharshara all referred to it in the context of Tarhuna. So even if it is not the most precise location, that is the best page for it with English coverage. While I can speak some basic Arabic, I can't read it, so if local coverage provides a more precise coverage that would be reasonable to follow. But, I'd suggest taking the lack of precision for the better coherence with coverage. The article on Tarhuna could certainly use some "candlelight," to borrow your metaphor. AbstractIllusions (talk) 14:17, 8 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Mz7 (talk) 05:16, 12 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Historic Celtic City Populations[edit]

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"Celtic cities" and "(early) modern history" is an intersection of two unrelated topics, as these cities have become populated with a lot of non-Celtic people. (Note that we do have ancient Celtic cities though.) I would suggest to move the population data to the separate city articles, if not already there. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:30, 29 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. Opinions are divided between moving to draftspace or keeping because of the already-existing media coverage.  Sandstein  09:36, 13 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Tax Day March[edit]

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Wikipedia is not a WP:SOAPBOX to advertise planned protests. We should write about such events after they actually happen, and in proportion to the RS coverage they get. Similar to the decision in the Scientists' March case, I suggest moving this article to Draft space until it takes place. In the meantime, a couple lines in Protests against Donald Trump#Planned protests, as it stands today, are enough in terms of encyclopedic coverage. — JFG talk 09:07, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

GNG coverage does not automatically mean this should have a standalone article, which is doomed to remain a stub until April. A few lines in the main article are sufficient and representative of the balance in sources. — JFG talk 10:47, 10 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was speedy keep per WP:SK#1. A valid rationale for deletion has not been presented. For examples of valid deletion rationales, see WP:DEL-REASON. See also WP:NEXIST: topic notability is not based upon the state of sourcing in articles. No prejudice against renomination that includes a valid deletion rationale. North America1000 12:26, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Muslim Educational Trust[edit]

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This article relies largely or entirely upon a single source until 2007 RaySingh (talk) 08:30, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. ♠PMC(talk) 23:10, 12 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Alexander Hunter (composer)[edit]

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Non-notable teacher per WP:Notability (academics), not a professional musician, no evidence that any of his music is notable. A self-written vanity page sourced only to himself. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 07:38, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. ♠PMC(talk) 23:09, 12 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

TAGAP: The Apocalyptic Game About Penguins[edit]

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Article topic lacks significant coverage from reliable, independent sources. (?) It had no substantial hits in a video game reliable sources custom Google search, and the non-English sources I found were also cursory or not substantial enough to do justice to the topic. There are no worthwhile redirect targets—only lists from which the title would be removed. czar 11:10, 20 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete.  Sandstein  09:50, 13 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Johnston Research Inc.[edit]

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No real claim of corporate notability. Moving to draft space would be a good idea. Robert McClenon (talk) 04:07, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Notwithstanding the move error, the source analysis below shows that this is highly unlikely to be a notable subject. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 16:25, 12 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was speedy keep. WP:SK#2, bad faith nomination by a sockpuppet. (non-admin closure) ansh666 07:49, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Julio Sadorra[edit]

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Primefac deleted the above page and recreated the page ,which was closed by bad NAC.But some other again closed the discussion with bad faith,so i am recreated the page Polammagudi (talk) 03:22, 5 February 2017 (UTC) (Polammagudi (talk) 03:24, 5 February 2017 (UTC))[reply]

Wiki-Coffee vote in invalid[edit]

• 17:12, 4 February 2017 Primefac (talk | contribs) deleted page Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Julio Sadorra (2nd nomination) (Duplicate nomination created due to some confusion thanks to a bad NAC close)

Primefac deleted the above page and recreated the discussion page (which was closed by bad NAC).But some other user Favonian again closed the discussion with bad faith. Really Favonian supports CatcherStorm (who is the article creator)?

He is behave like sock and try to save CatcherStorm articles https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Julio_Sadorra https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/S._Dallas_Dance_(2nd_nomination) https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Julio_Sadorra&diff=763684305&oldid=763652690 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Christaphercharly https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/S._Dallas_Dance_(2nd_nomination)&diff=763649061&oldid=763638114

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The result was delete. Consensus is that this company does not meet Wikipedia's notability standards. North America1000 05:42, 12 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

A. D. James Holdings, LLC.[edit]

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No actual evidence of corporate notability. Run-of-the-mill corporation. Robert McClenon (talk) 02:42, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy keep. I missed one of my search windows doing BEFORE. Bad nomination on my part. (non-admin closure) Jbh Talk 02:06, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

James Barker Band[edit]

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Not enough coverage in independent, reliable sources to verify or sustian article. Fails Wikipedia's general notability guidelines and WP:BAND. I could find no real coverage beyond one article in The Boot which I am not sure if is an RS. Beyond that it is just blogs, Spotify, Apple Music etc. Jbh Talk 02:04, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete.  Sandstein  09:36, 13 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Simunition[edit]

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Not enough coverage in independent, reliable sources to verify or sustian article. Fails Wikipedia's General Notability Guidelines and WP:NORG. I find lots of passing mentions but nothing which gives significant coverage of the company. Maybe there is some coverage in specialty publications and if someone can find the sources I will withdraw my nomination. Jbh Talk 01:49, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. SoWhy 13:06, 13 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ivan Lee (bishop)[edit]

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Completing nomination on behalf of Wikiain (talk · contribs), whose rationale (seen here) reads thus: "having an organisational position is not enough for notability - WP:GNG". On the merits, I have no opinion. UltraExactZZ Said ~ Did 17:36, 27 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Changing my opinion to Keep per WP:HEY. Sufficient for GNG now. Aoziwe (talk) 12:26, 2 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
That's as may be, but how do we apply that to an Assistant Bishop? UltraExactZZ Said ~ Did 14:47, 31 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Just by the by, a news archive search produces newspaper coverage of Lee doing routine bishop things: ordaining pastors, dedicating a memorial plaque honoring a much-beloved headmaster, and so forth.E.M.Gregory (talk)
  • We have this policy on WP:CLERGYOUTCOMES because bishops are powerful and important. It is true that some bishoprics are less powerful than others, which is why we restrict this practice to major churches. And while it is true that some bishoprics, like some independent states, are less powerful in recent centuries than they were in earlier ones, we keep all men in lists like List of rulers of Baden, and even though there is nothing much to say about Herman VIII, Margrave of Baden-Pforzheim, or about the incumbent Maximilian, Margrave of Baden. We not infrequently find that a largely forgotten man like Richard Trevor (bishop) comes in for a new wave of attention, in this case because he bought a group of paintings of a man and his sons known to art historians as Jacob and his twelve sons by Francisco de Zurbarán - going on a major international tour this summer. Many things can draw sudden attention to a bishop, living or dead. Adnd that is why we keep all of these bishops the way we keep articles about all heads of state, even heads of state as minor as Sint Maarten, (even though there is little to say about the incumbent Eugene Holiday. And we keep every elected member of a provincial legislatures, even the New Hampshire House of Representatives, which, with 400 members, necessarily includes a member of virtually every household in the state, and means that we have about a great many individuals far less notable than Ivan Lee.E.M.Gregory (talk) 14:51, 1 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • See my comment above, I don't think that's quiet accurate. Although I am not defending assistant bishops as automatically getting pages.E.M.Gregory (talk) 14:56, 1 February 2017 (UTC) @StAnselm: as an editor who may understand something about the Anglican hierarchy.E.M.Gregory (talk) 15:11, 1 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • I know it is accurate. We have certainly never assumed anyone except a diocesan bishop is inherently notable. Non-diocesan bishops have been deleted in the past - in fact, I don't think I've ever seen one kept. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:24, 1 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Check. He is an assistant bishop in the diocese of Sydney. Not automatically notable.E.M.Gregory (talk) 16:50, 1 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Really? Can you give me an example of an AfD about an assistant bishop? StAnselm (talk) 23:03, 1 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment E.M.Gregory, the additions still don't include anything notable. Most of your examples above are of people who have done something notable or have been in a notable position. Eugene Holiday is governor of a Dutch land, which is a notable position. Your claim about the New Hampshire House of Representatives seems somewhat exaggerated: the article says "On average, each legislator represents about 3,300 residents" which looks like a bit more than a household. A sampling in Assistant bishops in the Diocese of Sydney shows assistant bishops who became notable through elevation to bishop. As Lankiveil says, the Lee material is still all WP:ROUTINE stuff. Wikiain (talk) 22:08, 1 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
In fact, every single name on that page is blue-linked. Why is this article being singled out? StAnselm (talk) 23:03, 1 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • StAnselm, many editors are ignorant of the nature of Bishopship, ignorant of Christianty, and ignorant of history.E.M.Gregory (talk) 23:14, 1 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wikiain, It is always difficult to enter a conversation that has been going on for a while. However, do note that the "examples" you refer to were not examples, but an explanation of the reasons why in terms of notability, Anglican Bishops are treated like heads of state and members provincial legislatures (Also: I sometimes forget that there is NOJOKINGALLOWEDONWIKIPEDIA; but I assure you that the New Hampshire remark was a joke. ) Note, however, that David Boutin and many similar name check articles exist because the position they hold is notable. Please take another look at the articles I cited, I do NOT regard the sourcing as "routine" or inadequate as inadequate. E.M.Gregory (talk) 23:06, 1 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Of course I do. And I also realize that it was many years before the complexion of theocountry began oto change. And that Racism in Australia did not vanish with repeal.E.M.Gregory (talk) 23:54, 1 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
So an archdiocese is less than a diocese although an archbishop is more than a bishop? And he works in a big office? These ecclesiastical arcana aren't convincing me. Wikiain (talk) 23:39, 1 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
What on earth are you talking about? I'm suggesting a "region" in an archdiocese is the equivalent to a diocese. StAnselm (talk) 00:07, 2 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
But it isn't, is it? Otherwise it would be called a diocese! An archdiocese in the Anglican church is just a diocese that happens to be headed by an archbishop as its diocesan bishop. The group of dioceses headed by that archbishop is a province. This is merely an area of a diocese. See Diocese of Canterbury as opposed to Province of Canterbury, for example. -- Necrothesp (talk) 09:55, 2 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The Diocese of Canterbury doesn't have regions; it has archdeaconries instead, such as the Archdeacon of Maidstone. So the Bishop of the Western Region might be like that, or like the Bishop of Dover, except that there is no cathedral in Dover. (And, needless to say, all the Bishops of Dover have WP articles.) StAnselm (talk) 11:00, 2 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
What does the Tablet's "First Chinese-Australian bishop" in the Catholic church in 2017 show about an Anglican assistant bishop in 2002? Being the "first" something is not intrinsicaily notable. (And Lankiveil was simply noting that your reference to the White Australia policy was wrong by about 30 years. Beat me to it by a couple of moments.) Wikiain (talk) 02:09, 2 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I had pointed to the fact that he is the son of immigrants form China, which I added to the page, citing an article in the Sydney Morning Herald, with the assertion that this fact supports notability, another editor dismissed the assertion. I brought this story from a London paper trumpeting the appointment of the First Chinese-Australian bishop" to show that this is, indeed, a type of ethnic milestone regarded as significant by the world in general.E.M.Gregory (talk) 10:29, 2 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
You say "a type of ethnic milestone regarded as significant by the world in general". But a milestone upon what road? It is the road to assistant bishop and I am suggesting that you need something more.
Are you suggesting that Lee's appointment is an exception to an ordinary practice of racial discrimination by the Catholic and Anglican churches in Australia? If you are, please provide evidence. My impression is that, in recent decades, those organisations have been at the forefront of opposition to racial discrimination.
Please also consider an alternative and innocent explanation: that Lee being a first Chinese-Australian Anglican assistant bishop might be simply because there might not be very many Chinese-Australian Anglicans, or not with sufficient qualifications for that level of appointment. I have no way to find out, but I think you should consider these possibilities.Wikiain (talk) 12:00, 2 February 2017 (UTC).[reply]
I meant only that these ethnic group "firsts" are celebrated in the ethnic and general press. The fact is that Chinese parishes are a huge and flourishing part of the Anglican community in general and NSW in particular. And, yes, of course the Church has been in the forefront on this issue.E.M.Gregory (talk) 12:22, 2 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
You keep adding citations, but none of them shows that Lee has influenced anybody. Maybe you can show that, but just referring to him as a "leader" in an apparently small organisation does not do so—especially because the Porter article cited does not actually mention him. Nor is he mentioned in the GAFCON article. Through that article, I have traced the linked organisation FCA Australia, which however also does not mention Lee—especially, as of the election of directors in September 2016 he is not a director of that body. Wikiain (talk) 13:03, 2 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Certainly he was/is part of the leadership of GAFCOM [16], [17].E.M.Gregory (talk) 13:26, 2 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I think you misunderstand what an assistant bishop is: an assistant bishop is a bishop. See Bishop#Catholic Church, Orthodox churches and Anglican churches. When WP:CLERGY mentions "bishop" that includes assistants (though AFAIK no "assistant bishop" has ever been nominated before at AfD). StAnselm (talk) 07:48, 4 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Yes, they are more like "Area bishops" in England. StAnselm (talk) 02:12, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Consensus is for deletion. North America1000 06:24, 12 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"Crick" vs "Creek"[edit]

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This article should be deleted as it fails WP:NOTDICT as it is just the origin of creek (something that should be in a dictionary). -KAP03(Talk • Contributions) 01:39, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. North America1000 06:29, 12 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Prem Khan (Film actor)[edit]

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No indication of notability. According to his self-written IMDb biography, he played one "supporting role", with another film in pre-production. No reliable sources, and I can't even confirm independently that IMDb's filmography is correct. Bollywood Hungama doesn't list him as a cast member for the film he supposedly acted in. Huon (talk) 01:40, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Consensus is that this company does not meet Wikipedia's notability standards. North America1000 10:41, 12 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

International Artists Records[edit]

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Not related to the 1960s Houston, Texas indie label International Artists. Unreferenced ever since it was created by an owner of the company in 2013.[18] Searches of the usual Google types, EBSCO, Gale, HighBeam, JSTOR, newspapers.com, and ProQuest found a single one-sentence mention.[19] Does not meet WP:GNG. Worldbruce (talk) 01:29, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy delete as a hoax. I've turned it into a redirect. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 19:58, 6 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Yo-kai Watch (film)[edit]

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This article is about an upcoming film, so the relevant notability guideline is WP:NFF. I cannot find very many reliable sources that definitively confirm the existence of this upcoming film, let alone whether it is clearly out of the pre-production process as NFF requires for animated films. Here may be one that says "it's coming" but nothing more. Some of the content that was in the article appeared to have been unverifiable speculation (violation of WP:CRYSTAL), such as this cast list that included Justin Bieber and Ariana Grande. The production company and distributors that are listed in the article (Sony Pictures Animation and Columbia Pictures) are also inconsistent with past films in this franchise (where OLM, Inc. was the production company and Toho the distributor -- see Yo-kai Watch: The Movie), and I was unable to find any verification that American production companies are being involved. It is most likely too soon for a standalone article at this time. Mz7 (talk) 00:48, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete -- as a blatant WP:HOAX per the obviously inflated cast and crew list. The article's creator also has a history of similar problematic edits. CactusWriter (talk) 19:20, 6 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. While the content forking argument is a strong one, those arguing for deletion have not been able to demonstrate that WP:CFORK#List formats does not apply in this case, especially considering the issues raised that the list that is currently included in List of Presidents of the United States does not convey the same information in the same clear way. Possibly the information can be merged to the latter article at a later time but currently there is no consensus to prefer one such list over the other. SoWhy 13:27, 13 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

List of presidents of the United States by time in office[edit]

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Taking this to AFD since PROD was contested. Aside from specific day counts (which are overall superfluous), this is a repetitive content fork that needlessly rehashes the terms of office mentioned on List of Presidents of the United States. William Henry Harrison's month in office and Franklin Delano Roosevelt's 12 years in office are already included on that page along with everyone else's date ranges serving as president. This should therefore not have its own page per WP:Content forking#Redundant content forks when all of the non-trivial content is already included in the main list of presidents article. Snuggums (talk / edits) 00:42, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. No, there is no other page with the same content in an easily displayed format. Please don't delete this. Earthscent (talk) 00:49, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
If you look at the tables within the main presidents list (which I linked above), then you'll see there's a column with their full terms of office. That part is what's truly important. Snuggums (talk / edits) 02:32, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
What are you talking about? It doesn't show that at all. There's no column that shows the number of days in office. It shows the dates they were in office. And that table isn't sortable, so it is not at all the same thing.Earthscent (talk) 03:54, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
As I said before, the numbers of days are superfluous. The focus should be on years and perhaps months. As for the table, maybe someone could alter that to make it sortable. Snuggums (talk / edits) 04:19, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
That's only your opinion. Earthscent (talk) 13:17, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
comment, not a vote yet This list may have some use as the BBC had an article about US presidential length. They concluded that Bill Clinton had the second longest time in office after FDR, albeit only a few minutes longer than many other 2 term presidents. Lakeshake (talk) 00:50, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Do you mean this? It actually says just 5 seconds over 8 years, but far too trivial of a detail regardless. Snuggums (talk / edits) 02:32, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Page views and duration of existence are entirely moot points per the WP:POPULARPAGE and WP:ARTICLEAGE sections of WP:Arguments to avoid in deletion discussions, especially when the article doesn't offer any new significant detail. The WP:ITSUSEFUL section says to give a reason why something is or is not useful rather than simply saying "it's useful" or "it's not useful". I've noted that it isn't useful because the exact durations served in office are already included in the main list of presidents article. The days when one entered and left office are what's important, not the exact day count. Snuggums (talk / edits) 18:39, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Again, exact day count is superfluous compared to years and (in the cases of James A. Garfield and William Henry Harrison) months. I also doubt anybody would look for such an order, plus the main article already noted how Harrison's term was the shortest and FDR's was the longest anyway. Snuggums (talk / edits) 19:47, 9 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The counting of the length of the presidents' terms by days is not irrelevant as their were many presidents that did not serve a full term. For example, General Zachary Taylor served 1 year 4 months and 5 days (or 492 days) of his term. The List of Presidents of the United States only gives the start and end dates for the presidents' terms so if a reader desires to know the precise date they would have to decipher it. Again, it is easier to find this information with this article. The other article may state that Franklin Roosevelt had the longest term and William Harrison the shortest, but it does not state the order in between. The List of Presidents of the United States is also not sortable so even if the other article stated the exact length in the Presidency column it it would be impossible to get the order as displayed in this article. As for whether someone would look for such an order, I did, which is how I arrived at this AfD. -- Millionsandbillions (talk) 20:20, 9 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
What's truly important for people like Taylor is years and months in office, not day count, and main list already does an adequate job of providing ranges served. As for lengths in between FDR and Harrison's terms, Garfield is the only possible instance where "duration rank" (for a lack of a better term) was really a prominent trait as he was the one other president aside from Harrison to serve for less than a year when he died six months after his inauguration. Remember that Wikipedia isn't supposed to have excessive listings (which this page is) per WP:What Wikipedia is not#Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. Snuggums (talk / edits) 20:42, 9 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The List of Presidents of the United States does not do "an adequate job of providing ranges served" because all that is provided are the start and end date of a presidency, not the specific length of time that they occupied the office. It is not necessary that this list counts by day, it could alternatively count by year and day such as in List of Prime Ministers of Canada by time in office or List of Chancellors of Germany by time in office, or by year, month and day such as in List of Joint Premiers of the Province of Canada by time in office. What is important is that the specific duration of the presidents' terms in office remains. The current consensus would appear to be that lists of office holders by time in office are not considered "indiscriminate collections of information" seeing as there is an entire category for them. -- Millionsandbillions (talk) 21:07, 9 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
First of all, start and end dates are the truly important facts, and people can calculate months/years on their own anyway. We shouldn't go into minute details. Secondly, other similar articles existing (or not existing) is irrelevant per WP:OTHERSTUFF, which states you cannot make a convincing argument based solely on whether other articles do or do not exist. Whether other pages are warranted is a separate discussion. Snuggums (talk / edits) 21:28, 9 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I did not argue OTHERSTUFF, I noted that consensus seems to have been reached regarding whether lists of office holders by time in office violates WP:INDISCRIMINATE. These lists clearly present a very specific, not indiscriminate, collection of valuable information. This list is a ranking of the American presidents by time in office. It is not a rubbish listing like List of Asian golfers or List of outdoor speeches where the weather was sunny. That people can calculate length on their own is irrelevant as it is much easier to read the data from a table than to process 44 different time periods through one's head; some readers, be they children or developmentally disabled people, can't do calculations on their own so they would lose access to such information if this page is removed. -- Millionsandbillions (talk) 21:55, 9 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Noting other pages' existence (or lack thereof) is literally the definition of an WP:OTHERSTUFF argument, which is what you quite clearly just did. Don't try to pretend otherwise. Ranking of such durations is indiscriminate trivia for everyone except Harrison, FDR, and maybe Garfield because none of the other presidents are prominently noted for such traits. Such a "loss" isn't so detrimental when it lacks overall significance. Snuggums (talk / edits) 22:20, 9 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
This list is not "indiscriminate trivia" but rather an acceptable WP:SUBARTICLE and WP:SPLITLIST of List of Presidents of the United States. My reasoning was not as WP:OTHERSTUFF says "based solely on whether other articles exist." I was pointing out that we do not delete so-called "lists of office holders by time in office" articles because they are indiscriminate stockpiles of data and that WP:Some stuff exists for a reason. That such data is only "indiscriminate trivia" except for "Harrison, FDR, and ... Garfield" is really only your opinion. It has often been mentioned that Ford only served half of a term and being the only president not to be elected the office or the vice-presidency. It has also been noted of Lincoln dying very early into his second term and thus being unable to fulfill his goals for that term. Of all of these it is easier to glean this information from this article than it is from the parent article. Once again, this article is not a collection of insignificant data, but a ranking of very specific information. Information that exists no where else on this wiki, hence it is clearly not a content fork of List of Presidents of the United States.. -- Millionsandbillions (talk) 23:02, 9 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
On the contrary, I'm certainly not alone in deeming this trivial given the other "delete votes". If we took out day counts, then this would be a thinly veiled duplicate of the main list. As for Lincoln, while his second term might be noted for only lasting one month before his assassination, I'm certain that the amount of people who really bother to go into day count is quite minimal (if even existent). Same thing with Ford, who might be known for only serving between 2 and 3 years in office, but his lack of election isn't the focus either way. Snuggums (talk / edits) 23:32, 9 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
But if the day counts remain it is clearly not a duplicate. As a subarticle of course it is similar to the main article but only if you remove its defining characteristics. If the bar for articles being content forks is that high, that pretty much bars the creation of any WP:SPLITLIST entirely. The information this article presents is not present at the parent article, nor at any other article in this wiki, thus it is most definitely not a WP:REDUNDANTFORK. -- Millionsandbillions (talk) 00:25, 10 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I already stated before the article was a duplicate aside from day counts, and superfluous additions like that are nowhere near enough to make up for it. Such a count is by no means worth including anywhere at all. Snuggums (talk / edits) 00:41, 10 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - This page is as valid WP:SUBARTICLE and WP:SPLITLIST of List of Presidents of the United States, and provides clear and and concise information. Drdpw (talk) 03:07, 11 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:OTHERSTUFF, which says you cannot make a convincing argument based solely on whether other articles do or do not exist. That other article's existence is a separate matter. Snuggums (talk / edits) 05:02, 11 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
By nominating this article for deletion, you should've also nominated the related Veep article. GoodDay (talk) 17:06, 11 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I hadn't noticed that article at the time, but now THAT IS FOR A SEPARATE DISCUSSION. WP:OTHERSTUFF isn't relevant here. Snuggums (talk / edits) 17:45, 11 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I believe it is relevant. This article is a part of a series of articles, as well. Therefore, I shall continue to support keeping this article. GoodDay (talk) 04:45, 12 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Your reasoning is flawed, and you haven't even tried to give any real rationale as how its existence has any merit, though there aren't any good reasons for keeping it regardless. Snuggums (talk / edits) 06:44, 12 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • No, WP:OTHERSTUFF doesn't actually carry any more weight here than other cases. While someone might be able to make some type of sortable parameter on the main list, length of term isn't overall a defining trait for most presidents to begin with, and you've even admitted yourself that day count is trivia. The points on supposed popularity and article existing for a while are also entirely moot per the WP:ARTICLEAGE and WP:POPULARPAGE sections of WP:Arguments to avoid in deletion discussions. Snuggums (talk / edits) 06:44, 12 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. ♠PMC(talk) 21:44, 12 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Andrey Smagin (musician)[edit]

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The result was speedy deleted. - Deleted under G5 by Jezebel's Ponyo. (non-admin closure) Nördic Nightfury 08:38, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

AT Black Knight Transformer[edit]

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This flying thing doesn't hardly exist yet, except maybe for whatever is shown in promotional videos on the internet. I find no reliable sources, it's not yet in production, and the company making it doesn't seem to be notable either. Drmies (talk) 00:03, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. The consensus here is that the coverage available in reliable sources for the subject satisfies Wikipedia's notability guidelines. Mz7 (talk) 04:54, 12 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Visiting Nurse Service of New York[edit]

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    This article should be deleted because it fails to meet Wikipedia notability standards. I admit that the article is professionally written and nice looking but that is not a criteria for Wikipedia inclusion. The company is simply a nursing company in New York. See below for delete reasons, which is basically not meeting any of the criteria of "Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)" or WP:COMPANY. Lakeshake (talk) 00:38, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    • further evidence of delete
    WP:CORPDEPTH states "the depth of coverage of the subject by the source must be considered. If the depth of coverage is not substantial, then multiple[2] independent sources should be cited to establish notability." SORRY, FAILS.
    WP:AUD, a subsection of the corporate notability page states "The source's audience must also be considered. Evidence of significant coverage by international or national, or at least regional, media is a strong indication of notability." SORRY, FAILS.
    WP:ORGIND, a subsection of the corporate notability page states "A primary test of notability is whether people independent of the subject itself (or its manufacturer, creator, or vendor) have actually considered the company, corporation, product or service notable enough that they have written and published non-trivial, non-routine works that focus upon it." SORRY, FAILS.
    WP:NONPROFIT, a subsection of the corporate notability page states "Organizations are usually notable if they meet both of the following standards: 1. The scope of their activities is national or international in scale. 2. The organization has received significant coverage in multiple[2] reliable sources that are independent of the organization." SORRY, FAILS EACH OF THE TWO CRITERIA AND ALSO FAILS BOTH CRITERIA
    Sorry, while written like a professional and has a nice logo, it fails. Lakeshake (talk) 00:44, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Asserting "sorry, fails" repeatedly comes across as snide and unjustified. There are sources about this organization. I would hope that repetition of an incorrect assertion should not "WIN" an AFD, though I think it did set the stage to garner a couple votes of agreement. The goal should not be winning, but rather improving the existing Wikipedia coverage. --doncram 21:06, 8 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Not saying they are no good but doesn't meet so many of the Wikipedia guidelines. That's the problem with Wikipedia, full of video game and porn star articles because they meet the criteria. Lakeshake (talk) 21:57, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    *Keep and Stubify - a cursory search suggests more than enough to get this past WP:GNG if not WP:ORG. I am happy to do some work on this article, it is in poor shape and take it back to a stub format with reliable sources from which it can be expanded. I review of the history shows the article was taken from a stub to an advertisement by a single authorFlat Out (talk) 04:17, 9 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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