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The result was delete. Mz7 (talk) 18:43, 6 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Wipeout Pakistan

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I could not find any coverage of this show whatsoever, past or present. This is likely a WP:HOAX. Mar4d (talk) 23:30, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 19:14, 5 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails WP:GNG. All news sources that mention this channel do not discuss it in-depth. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 23:12, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Fails GNG and suffers from a lack of sourcing. Most sources cited are attributed to either user-generated content or websites that do not meet Wikipedia's source criteria.--SamHolt6 (talk) 23:16, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete Fails General NotabilityZazzysa (talk) 12:04, 30 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. Mz7 (talk) 08:33, 6 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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I think the article doesn't meet notability standards. Winuserunlimited (talk) 22:31, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. —SpacemanSpiff 14:50, 5 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Skyline Builders

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Promotional uncited article. No clear demonstration of notability. Struggling to find any independent in-depth coverage in reliable sources. Edwardx (talk) 22:05, 22 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete.  Sandstein  09:18, 7 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Karnan (malayalam)

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A translation of a book for which we don't have an article on the book in its original language. No evidence found for the claimed award. Not notable enough. Edwardx (talk) 21:14, 22 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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You can see the book listed in worldcat.com ISBN 9788171304868 and you can find the original's details (Mrityunjay) in the page sivaji savant Regarding the award there is no much details available on iternet .You can find it in the Kendra sahitya akademy's official website (talk)

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The result was delete.  Sandstein  21:34, 6 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Two-platform IT

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Declined prod. Not a common term; I believe it's being promoted by Compuware. Power~enwiki (talk) 21:27, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. – filelakeshoe (t / c) 13:19, 6 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Jules Verne (band)

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No sources in the article, not seeing any reliable sources when I did a quick Google search. Appears to be a fairly non-notable band. Andise1 (talk) 21:05, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. – filelakeshoe (t / c) 20:27, 6 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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I can't find any reliable sources regarding this record label, or any signed artists that might suggest notability under N:MUSIC #5. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 20:34, 22 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 19:15, 5 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ellis (sigil)

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The sources in the article are all unreliable. Blogs, Youtube, and other useless sources etc. I'v searched for academic sources via Google Books and the web in general, but nothing reliable so far has appeared; Just more blogs and artwork. I can only assume this was just a trend or probably from some comic book or anime. Whatever it is, the article fails WP:N JudeccaXIII (talk) 19:18, 22 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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True, but they still have to be notable(that is to say verifiabley notable).Slatersteven (talk) 09:33, 31 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. North America1000 00:04, 6 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sandy Hoyt

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Biography, flagged as unsourced since 2009, of a radio and television personality, who has potentially valid claims of notability for some of his television work -- but nothing that would hand him an automatic presumption of notability just because he existed, if sourcing isn't there to get him past WP:GNG for it. Bearcat (talk) 14:36, 16 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Nope. You've added a member profile on the self-published website of an organization he was directly involved with, a piece on the website of his own church in which he was the bylined author and not the subject, and his IMDb profile — which are all primary sources that cannot assist notability. To establish notability, sources have to represent reliable source coverage about him in media independent of him, such as newspapers, magazines or books — it's not enough to just use his own self-created web presence as verification that he existed. Bearcat (talk) 17:46, 3 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. I don't see any reason to re-list this a third time right now. (non-admin closure) Power~enwiki (talk) 20:45, 6 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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WP:BLP of a radio personality, whose potential claims of notability aren't properly sourced. Of the 11 sources here, seven of them are primary sources (her own staff profiles on the websites of her own employers, participation in an event sourced to that event's own self-published press releases, etc.) -- and of the four that are reliable sources, two are just glancing namechecks of her existence in articles that aren't about her, and one of the two remaining sources that are substantive enough to count toward WP:GNG is a deadlink whose content is unretrievable. So there's only one source here at all that's reliable and substantive and verifiable -- but one source isn't enough to pass GNG all by itself. Bearcat (talk) 15:19, 16 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Being a DJ in several markets and/or doing charity work aren't notability claims for a radio personality — most DJs in commercial radio move around to different markets over the course of their careers, and most DJs in commercial radio do work for local charities in their spare time. And at any rate, GNG is a measure of the quality of sourcing that's present in the article, not just of anything that the article says — and the sourcing present here isn't adequate at all. Bearcat (talk) 17:52, 3 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was soft delete per WP:NOQUORUM. Mz7 (talk) 20:51, 6 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Followup to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Live in Concert November 4th, 2001. While there once was a time when albums and EPs didn't need to show or source any notability claim besides "was released by a notable band", that's no longer the standard that applies today -- they now need to be reliably sourced as passing WP:NALBUMS for something more than just existing. While the band's three studio albums are repairable, these two are rarities compilations that were released after they got dropped from Sub Pop and broke up -- so there's no real notability claim, and no genuinely strong reliable sourcing, available for either of them. Bearcat (talk) 16:57, 16 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 19:15, 5 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Deerfield, Garrett County, Maryland

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This is a small housing development, not an actual town. Per WP:GEOLAND, notability of these locations is considered on a case-by-case basis. The article cites no third-party sources, has no citations, and gives no clear indication that it is notable. Bitmapped (talk) 17:31, 22 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. -- RoySmith (talk) 22:24, 6 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Non notable concept w/o significant independent coverage. I removed the most recent ProD as prior ProD had been removed, making it ineligible. So here we are. Dlohcierekim (talk) 20:53, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Mz7 (talk) 20:36, 6 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Beat of Indian Youth

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Unable to see how this can pass WP:NALBUM. Edwardx (talk) 16:19, 22 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Speedy Keep Withdrawn by nominator. (non-admin closure) TheDoctorWho (talk) 22:23, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Insufficient sources to establish notability for this young child actor. Fails WP:NACTOR. TheDoctorWho (talk) 00:02, 16 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]


Suggessting redirection to List_of_Hawaii_Five-0_(2010_TV_series)_characters#Will_Grover TheDoctorWho (talk) 03:54, 16 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. – filelakeshoe (t / c) 09:43, 7 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Simon Child (Zen practitioner)

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Does not appear notable. Either associated sources or minor mentions/unreliable sources come up with google search. And nothing in this article indicates notable accomplishments, other than being a zen practitioner. ‡ ᕮl Cid of ᐺalencia ᐐT₳LKᐬ 03:08, 15 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. – filelakeshoe (t / c) 13:16, 6 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails under WP:TOOSOON SahabAliwadia 10:13, 15 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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@Saqib: And also it is written like an advertisement. Also agree with your point. SahabAliwadia 15:40, 16 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 19:16, 5 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Doesn't meet our WP:TVSERIES notability guidelines. SahabAliwadia 11:08, 15 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Nobody has put forward a rationale for keeping the article. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:10, 6 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Two Red Eyes (film)

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No claim of notability, in fact it hasn't come out yet. Google only comes up with connected sources, and what may be a trailer on the Travel channel? But that doesn't create notability. Sorry ‡ Єl Cid of ᐺalencia ᐐT₳LKᐬ 14:06, 15 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete. Very low activity despite several relists. WP:REFUND applies. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:09, 6 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Future Legend Records

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not notable independent label E-Kartoffel (talk) 14:29, 15 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:09, 6 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sue Ellen Randolph

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Animator and book self-publisher. Neither she nor her company "Pirate Shades Productions" has any news coverage at all. None of her videos on YouTube have more than a few hundred views. This article also promotes a charity foundation in her name; it has 24 followers on Twitter and no news presence either. Contested PROD by the article creator with comment "This page was created with to almost the same words as a vetified actor. So what is the deletion issue?". Blythwood (talk) 17:15, 15 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Power~enwiki (talk) 02:45, 5 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikipedia is not a product catalog. Sourced only to a corporate press release, dated today. Possibly a G11 candidate. Power~enwiki (talk) 20:43, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 19:16, 5 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Olayemi Esan

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Non-notable blogger/media consultant lacking non-trivial, independent sources. No independent support for the minor awards. A good number of the "references" are from subject's blog. reddogsix (talk) 19:45, 29 August 2017 (UTC) Note-the editor that created this article continues to add unrelated "references." reddogsix (talk) 04:30, 1 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Comment - The organisers of the said Awards didnt make use of the internet to document their events, thus, we find it hard to use a Source for the Award. I have uploaded an evidence pictures showing the Article is real, she received the two Award.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Pye Olayemi Esan (talkcontribs) — Pye Olayemi Esan (talkcontribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
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The result was keep. The additional references suggest it is no longer WP:TOOSOON to have an article. (non-admin closure) Power~enwiki (talk) 00:48, 6 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Permastub article with little indication of notability one week after release of single, a cursory search for articles turns up little in depth review. --Jax 0677 (talk) 19:39, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) J947(c) (m) 18:49, 5 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Non-notable, unelected politician - WP:NPOL, WP:POLOUTCOMES, and MOS:CA#Politics. Madg2011 (talk) 19:02, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Power~enwiki (talk) 02:45, 5 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Unsourced meaningless nanostub, untouched since 2009. Topic doesn't seem to exist given all the weird wording. Deprodded for no valid reason. Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 19:00, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Right. This idea that Zambia can't possibly have theatre -- because the poor Zambians haven't figured it out something so complex, or whatever -- doesn't wear well. It's a nation of 16+ million people. But keep it up TPH your flailings at Afd are always good. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 12:21, 1 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Hydronium Hydroxide: And of course, source dumping in an AFD means they will automatically be added to the article themselves, right? That must be why the article is still fucking untouched since goddamn 2009. If this really were a notable topic, then the article wouldn't be a meaningless microstub stinking up the wikipedia since goddamn fucking forever. But yeah, let's just let it sit and rot forever because there's no deadline right? I think I'll write an article on my own ass, because it exists and therefore must be notable. Who cares if the article is still 5 words long 10 years from now? Effort? What the fuck is that?! Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 17:28, 3 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Ultraexactzz: So are you going to add the sources, or are you also hoping they'll just magically add themselves and make this an FA overnight? If you can be bothered to scream that it's notable, you can be bothered to throw the goddamn sources in there yourself. Otherwise, this article is just gonna sit and continue to rot because everyone else is just going to say it's somebody else's problem. I thought this was a project where people worked together, not a place where we just sit round and pass the buck all day long. Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 04:35, 4 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • For some reason pots and kettles come to mind when I read that comment. 86.17.222.157 (talk) 09:15, 4 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • @TenPoundHammer: Your nomination was that the article was unsourced (and had been for a long time), and that the subject did not exist. The first point has been addressed - there's a source now. The second point is laughable bordering on offensive. It's thin, yes - which is why I suggested that a merge might be better. There are few editors on this project who know more about our deletion processes than you do - for fuck's sake, see also WP:HAMMER. And that's really my point - you're getting really really worked up over this article (and other recent AFDs, as noted at WT:AFD), and quite frankly I think your conduct is becoming problematic. But for your name at the top here, I wouldn't expect this sort of nomination from you, nor would I have expected your reactions here and elsewhere recently. I'm suggesting nothing more than that y'all need to take a deep breath and cool it. UltraExactZZ Said ~ Did 16:58, 4 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 19:16, 5 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Blake Chow

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Being the first from group X to do Y isn't something that is inherently notable, and even if that event has significant coverage, it is WP:BLP1E. Other sources are either routine coverage of crimes he investigated (not coverage of him in detail) or less than reliably sourced. John from Idegon (talk) 17:56, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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For reference, see Chief of the Los Angeles Police Department, where most of the officers who served as Chief are bluelinks. UltraExactZZ Said ~ Did 03:14, 3 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 19:17, 5 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Tim Burns (jurist)

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Doesn't meet WP:NPOL or WP:GNG. Routine coverage for a political candidate. Boleyn (talk) 17:44, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure) J947(c) (m) 05:47, 6 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Doesn't meet WP:NPOL or WP:GNG. Boleyn (talk) 17:35, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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K.e.coffman has convinced me I was wrong - nomination withdrawn. Boleyn (talk) 05:17, 6 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. – filelakeshoe (t / c) 09:45, 7 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Rangrez Mustaquim Akhtar

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Does not meet WP:NPOL or WP:GNG. Boleyn (talk) 17:33, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy keep. North America1000 04:54, 5 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Doesn't meet WP:NPOL or WP:GNG. Boleyn (talk) 17:25, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Has Times obit and Who's Who entry - usually enough for WP:GNG. Threehundredeight (talk) 18:29, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Do you have a link to the Times obit., was it paid for or just coverage for free?There are many Who's Who guides, I wouldn't say inclusion in one I've never heard of would be automatic inclusion, do you have evidence of extensive coverage, Threehundredeight? Boleyn (talk) 19:09, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I don't have access to Times database at the moment. The Who's Who guide is the one cited in the article - most editors who know anything about UK biographies will be very familiar with that source. Threehundredeight (talk) 19:16, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 19:17, 5 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

AIT Therapeutics

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Fails WP:NCORP. PROD contested by article creator. shoy (reactions) 16:41, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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and getting more absurdly promotional as time goes on diff. Jytdog (talk) 17:00, 4 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was speedy deleted A7 ... discospinster talk 17:35, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Richard F Devon

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Hoax Rhadow (talk) 16:21, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to Eleven International Publishing.  Sandstein  12:02, 6 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

European Employment Law Cases

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This journal is neither well renowned nor has received significant media coverage Failosopher (talk) 15:46, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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I agree with this. A Guy into Books (talk) 13:48, 30 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. – filelakeshoe (t / c) 13:23, 6 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Eliel Vieira

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This article about a make-up artist consists mostly of lists of his clients. The article lacks independent, reliable sources writing about his work as a make-up artist. The sources used in this article are neither reliable nor independent. They are mostly brief mentions, don't mention him at all (cosmopolitan), or they are advertorials posing as tutorials, where an advertiser pays to receive a celebrity endorsement. That the celebrity in question has been manufactured by a marketing firm is not mentioned in the sources, who depend on advertising revenue from the cosmetic companies. Mduvekot (talk) 15:26, 21 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Delete and redirect to James Bond in film#Bond 25 (2019). There is clear consensus here that the topic is too speculative for a standalone article at the moment. Hut 8.5 20:44, 6 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete/salt and redirect to James Bond in film#Bond 25 (2019). It clearly fails WP:NFF since filming has not begun. Point #5 of WP:CRYSTAL states "Wikipedia is not a collection of product announcements and rumors ... short articles that consist only of product announcement information are not appropriate. Until such time that more encyclopedic knowledge about the product can be verified, product announcements should be merged to a larger topic". Most of what is in the article at this point is a mix of Eon announcements and unsourced speculation, especially in the Lead (title, singer, etc.) BilCat (talk) 15:06, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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We had exactly the same discussion for the last film and the one before that. It's partly because the numbering is always suspect (this will be the 27th Bond film to be made, it's the 25th Eon film) but mostly per WP:NFF: "Films that have not been confirmed by reliable sources to have commenced principal photography should not have their own articles". On all the previous Bond films I've worked on (the last 3 or 4), we've waited until the press conference that launches the name and the main actors, before we launch the page with the correct name. - SchroCat (talk) 15:34, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Actually, the page was first restored by a registered user, and then by an IP (possibly the same user). Rather than edit war, I decided an AFD was warranted, especially as it will allow future restorations to be eligible for CSD. - BilCat (talk) 15:49, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) J947(c) (m) 18:47, 5 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Seems like just another building to me. TheLongTone (talk) 14:39, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Keep -To you, perhaps, but not to those in Myanmar. This page was requested by another user to be built. To my knowledge, Wikipedia is making efforts to be inclusive of non-English speaking countries and countries that are underrepresented. There are plenty of extra articles about Myanmar Plaza in the Burmese language, but I unfortunately cannot access them as I speak only English. I am hoping the page will be amended by those who are bilingual and can add to it. Brittney Tun
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Keep, building does have considerable coverage in Burmese and some coverage in English too. www.myanmarinsider.com/a-sneak-peak-inside-myanmar-plaza/. www.yangonlife.com.mm/en/directory/myanmar-plaza-shopping-center. www.mmtimes.com/business/17998-myanmar-plaza-open-for-business.html --Failosopher (talk) 15:43, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, Yes, and that link as well as many others are in the article. Brittney Tun —Preceding undated comment added 16:26, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Notable building in Myanmar should not be deleted unless there is support from locals which the proposer does not appear to be. Bkerensa (talk) 22:32, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: One of the largest shopping complex in Yangon with significant coverage in news. Phyo WP (message) 22:48, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: As per above comments. NinjaStrikers «» 03:01, 1 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 04:30, 6 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

John Adams (Virginia)

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Unelected politician, not a GNG pass independently of political activity. Effectively a campaign biography for a forthcoming electoral race. Carrite (talk) 14:23, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Campaign-related coverage doesn't help get a candidate over WP:GNG in and of itself — if it did, then every candidate for anything would always pass GNG, because every candidate for anything always gets some campaign coverage. To get him an article before he wins the election, you would have to show that he had already received enough media coverage to clear GNG for other reasons completely independent of the candidacy. Bearcat (talk) 07:28, 1 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. -- RoySmith (talk) 22:25, 6 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Good Guys Finish First

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The claim of notability seems absurdly niche. TheLongTone (talk) 14:09, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Bestsellers list reference says #42. Comes without a review. Two reviews on Amazon, one by a friend of the author. Amazon ranking #2,072,877. Rhadow (talk) 15:11, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. bd2412 T 21:54, 7 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Power & Communication Contractors Association

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Non-notable organisation. WP:BEFORE checks reveal no independent coverage per WP:NORG. DrStrauss talk 13:22, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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gbooks just has directory listings. LibStar (talk) 04:00, 30 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete.  Sandstein  09:19, 7 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Robotronic Squad

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Fails WP:BAND. DrStrauss talk 13:13, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete.  Sandstein  12:07, 6 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Faisal Al-Medlij

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Does not meet WP:NPOL, WP:GNG or any other part of WP:NOTABILITY. Boleyn (talk) 13:03, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello, Bearian. How do sources fail WP:PROOF? Sources #2 through #7 and #9 are mainstream newspapers, which are Al-Qabas, Al-Anba_(Kuwait), Al_Rai_(Kuwaiti_newspaper), Al-Jarida, Al-Seyassah and Annahar_(Kuwait). Sources #1 and #8, in the other hand, are linked to the official website of the association the subject is a head of. --Aaehasa (talk) 12:15, 2 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, Johnpacklambert. You have a point, the association must have an article and it is on my to-do list as appears on my user page. However, do you really think lack of an article of a "notable" association should prevent its chairman from passing WP notability guidelines? Notability isn't time-sensitive to what comes first into WP, is it? --Aaehasa (talk) 09:01, 6 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete.  Sandstein  21:35, 6 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The Kulide o' Scope

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Fails WP:BAND. Quite promotional too. DrStrauss talk 12:47, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 21:03, 7 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Tahoka Freeway

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Band doesn't appear to be notable per WP:BAND. There's quite a bit of WP:PROMO as well. DrStrauss talk 12:43, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was withdrawn. Changed my mind re the rationales in the keep votes. (non-admin closure) DrStrauss talk 20:41, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails WP:BAND. No independent coverage in reliable sources. DrStrauss talk 12:42, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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* Wikipedia:WikiProject Jazz notified. AllyD (talk) 14:40, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 19:17, 5 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Danny Wan

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The coverage is what you would expect for a local councillor. He doesn't meet WP:NPOL or WP:GNG. Being the first openly gay local councillor for a city doesn't make you notable. Boleyn (talk) 12:33, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete.  Sandstein  12:07, 6 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Trepanga

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Fails WP:BAND. Little WP:SIGCOV in WP:IRS. DrStrauss talk 12:32, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Consensus is that this organization does not meet the general notability guidelines for inclusion in Wikipedia. Malinaccier (talk) 19:11, 6 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Massachusetts Seniors Squash Rackets Association

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Fails WP:NORG and WP:GNG. DrStrauss talk 12:28, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Consensus is clearly in favour of deletion, owing to e.g concerns about the reliability of most sources and that the topic hasn't had their research widely covered by reliable sources. In addition, the keep !votes appear to mostly come from single purpose accounts and rely too much on anecdotal and unreliable (Facebook followers) evidence. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 19:22, 5 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Nassim Haramein

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Created as an apparent fan biography by users who, going by the talk page, do not seem to understand Wikipedia BLP rules on sourcing. The current version is after serious culling of the bad sourcing; here's (what I think was) the first live version and here's a reference check I did; it was a tissue of primary sources and puffery. A source check finds coverage in non-RSes, but nothing indicating actual RS notability as a physicist or in general terms. Please also check the talk page discussion. David Gerard (talk) 11:55, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Could you please provide any reliable source(s) supporting your assertion that, "Nassim Haramein’s theories discussed in many physics meetings and conferences"? And also any reliable source(s) that his work has been "corroborated by the leading physicists such as Stephen Hawking and Leonard Susskind"? If that information can be verified, it could be added to the article, and if not, your argument above becomes irrelevant. Cheers! — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 20:25, 4 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Haramein treats nucleons as mini black holes in his holographic mass solution which Hawking has been theorizing about since 1971 https://academic.oup.com/mnras/article-lookup/doi/10.1093/mnras/152.1.75 and has since been corroborated by Leonard Susskind (one of the founders of the holographic principle). For instance, in his lecture for ER=EPR, he states “…there is no sharp separation between particles and black holes…” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBPpRqxY8Uw&t=5822s at 1:35:45. Throughout the years, I have followed Nassim Haramein’s work which he has presented at numerous conferences including the American Physical Society and more recently the Royal Society.  Haramein would have been involved in numerous discussions at these physics conferences, which I was privy to some. However, they were informal and so unfortunately there is no record. Therefore, like the other commenters on this discussion for deletion page - all I can offer is my opinion. If my argument is irrelevant than so is that of the other comments in this discussion for deletion page. - 2600:1012:B147:2E9:217B:49FC:B65D:C215 (talk) 00:53, 5 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • You may have misunderstood what I meant by providing reliable sources. The lecture by Susskind and the 1971 paper by Hawking are primary sources, from which you have concluded they corroborated Haramein’s theories. This is a synthesis, your own conclusion, not something published by a secondary source stating that theories of Hawking and Susskind agreed with Haramein’s work. It's not that your opinion is irrelevant, but that the conclusions you have drawn are not published by independent, secondary, reliable sources, the standard required here. Without such sources to back your argument, it is irrelevant to the discussion. Cheers! — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 03:23, 5 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
It's the corroboration that never stops. An endless, perpetual, continuous corroboration. A cosmic background corroboration permeating all of spacetime. You can’t point to it because it’s everywhere. Like the Higgs field. It's a remarkable phenomenon. :/ Bobathon71 (talk) 11:40, 5 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
A retrocausal corroboration that reaches back in time to 1971, forming a closed timelike curve that no heretical opinions can interrupt. XOR'easter (talk) 16:03, 5 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Harameins work is published in peer review science journals - to be published in peer reviewed science journals you have to pass peer review which means your work is validated by other scientists with PhDs. For science to be valid and relavent that is the criteria ... whether you agree or not is irrelavent. These references were included in the original article. Obviously not all scientists will have wiki pages, only scientists who are also notable - which Nassim Haramein is. This is evident by the amount of articles, books and movies that Nassim is either mentioned in or has contributed too.-2600:1012:B12C:9BCB:11B2:4059:531F:CC04 (talk) 18:41, 5 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Repeating my comment below: in 15+ years of research, Haramein has had only one paper pass formal peer review, and that was published by this group. None of his work appears in any of the huge sources of trusted content that physicists use. When I say huge, I mean millions of articles. Pretty much every graduate student has work on here. For work of the significance Haramein claims, this is a very low bar. – Bobathon71 (talk) 18:48, 5 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "Patrick Stewart Narrating New Documentary 'The Connected Universe'". The Hollywood Reporter. Retrieved 2017-09-03.
  2. ^ "Vancouver documentary breaks crowdfunding record on Indiegogo". The Globe and Mail. 2015-02-04. Retrieved 2017-09-03.
He holds the main source of 'debunking' material for Nassim's work, with no obvious expertise, and has continued to follow Nassim's work on the internet wherever it shows up. You can see that BobAthon has even used his own blog as a source for Nassim's work being pseudoscience on the comments that started the conversations for this takedown, under the Physics Project page. -Jediblade (talk) 05:36, 5 September 2017 (UTC) — Jediblade (talk) • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
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@DVdm, What are you talking about? I was just trying to put some formatting to the text... Don't accuse someone of something if you have not some valid and serious proof!OlivierR (talk) 06:43, 5 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The suggestion that Wikipedia editors might be swayed by an obscure anonymous blog is rather unrealistic. It badly underestimates the expertise of the people making decisions here. I've never advocated my blog as a source anywhere on Wikipedia, and I haven't brought it up or linked to it anywhere near this page. I don't consider Haramein to be a personal adversary – that's pathetic. I was fascinated by his physics claims and how many people thought they were genuine, and I wrote some posts about them in 2010 (none before, none since). I've looked quite deeply into his papers and I feel able to shed some light on his claims. If I feel it's helpful and relevant in a discussion then there's nothing wrong with linking to points I've already made to save re-hashing them. As noted I haven't even done that here. It's a bit twisted to try to portray me as misleading people or as being some kind of instigator of skepticism. Let's credit experienced people with the ability to think for themselves. – Bobathon71 (talk) 11:32, 5 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Note: Bobathon, since 2010 you are posting all over the web trying to discredit Nassim Haramein work. The only problem is that you clearly don't understand the physics behind this paper. You fail understanding the physic (and it is possible to forgive you on this point because it is quite a complex subject) but the problem is that you concentrate your effort on personal attacks on Nassim Haramein and all his work. The best part is when you are moking the black hole theory like it is an absurdity while in the main time Susskind it's nearly telling everyone that particles are black holes. And everyone will understand that Susskind understand way better the physics than you do. The only surprising fact is that you haven't yet be sued for defamation and slandering... OlivierR (talk) 15:32, 5 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
No, I've never "moked" the idea of particles being black holes, and I have no interest in personal attacks on Haramein. I've never met the guy. What I have criticised is his theory that protons have a mass of 855 million tonnes (because they... don't...), the idea that they have an event horizon with a radius of 1.3fm (when experiments have been routinely probing their internal structure on far smaller scales for decades), the idea that you can model the motion of two black holes whose event horizons are touching using Newton's law of gravity (because black holes have any meaning outside of GR, and ignoring GR in that scenario is unbelievably silly), and so, so, so, so many other incompetent, idiotic things that Haramein claimed just in that one paper. If he wants to take that personally, that's up to him, but I'm talking about the ideas in the paper. If you prefer the story that his work is too wonderful for people like me to understand then please, by all means, stick with that. – Bobathon71 (talk) 17:23, 5 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
If you criticise a pseudoscientist, their fans and apologists can't resist trying to make the person behind the criticism the focus of the discussion. I don't know why this is, but it's almost universal. So, er, what did you just claim I said? And what did I actually say? Grow up. Talk about the subject under discussion if you have anything to contribute. Bobathon71 (talk) 17:29, 5 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Well in 15+ years of research, Haramein has had only one paper pass formal peer review, and that was published by these people. None of his work appears in the huge sources of trusted content that physicists use. When I say huge, I mean millions of articles. Pretty much every graduate student has work on here. It's a low bar. – Bobathon71 (talk) 17:35, 5 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
As was pointed out above, Nassim has co-written papers that appear in Elizabeth Rauscher's Selected Works. But that's irrespective of the fact that at the very least he very clearly passes notability for WP:BIO - Joe science (talk) 17:51, 5 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. – filelakeshoe (t / c) 09:51, 7 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Cognitive Process Profile

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Seems to just be advertising the services of a company that does cognitive testing. There are a few unconnected references that may or may not mention the test. Who knows? Has remained pretty much unimproved since 2011. Famousdog (c) 11:04, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. SoWhy 13:31, 6 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Santosh Master

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Does not pass WP:GNG or our notability guidelines for artists. Salimfadhley (talk) 20:03, 21 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 19:23, 5 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Gourmet Guides

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Speedy deletion declined on grounds of article age. Fails WP:NCORP. DrStrauss talk 12:01, 21 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 19:23, 5 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ghoul (2018 film)

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See film notability guidelines. Unreleased films that are in principal photography should only have their own article if the production itself is notable. This article does not support notability about the production. (If the film has been in production for more than a year, then it may be in some sort of development hell, and is only notable if that is notable.) Robert McClenon (talk) 10:39, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Deleting as a PROD via the "soft deletion" criterion. Malinaccier (talk) 19:05, 6 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Mohammad Abdulmaguid Nassar

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Non-notable deceased engineer. This article reads like a resume (not even like an obituary). Google search turns up no in-depth coverage.

Was tagged for A7, but author removed tag improperly and expanded. Can be taken to AFD now.

References do not check out. Some of the references are dead links, and some of them do not provide information about the subject. Robert McClenon (talk) 09:57, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. SoWhy 13:31, 6 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Manzoor Bismil

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Just one name-check. Clearly not notable as he fails WP:GNG. Greenbörg (talk) 07:53, 14 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. SoWhy 13:30, 6 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Akbar Laghari

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No notability beyond 'Secretary'. Name-checked as secretary by BBC Urdu and all other sources. Fails WP:AUTHOR and WP:GNG. Greenbörg (talk) 07:58, 14 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. – filelakeshoe (t / c) 09:54, 7 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Nashik City Centre Mall

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Fails WP:NCORP. Article written mostly as a promotional piece Ajf773 (talk) 09:25, 22 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - The article was not WP:G11, However I have removed unsourced/ promo contents [13] to address the concerns raised by the nominator. And this can be further improved per WP:ATD. Anoptimistix (talk) 09:19, 6 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. SoWhy 13:30, 6 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Najam Abbasi

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No coverage for him in WP:RS after his death. Fails WP:GNG and WP:AUTHOR. Greenbörg (talk) 08:46, 14 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete.  Sandstein  12:04, 6 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

AxisB

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Fails WP:BAND. The group has charting history. References are almost entirely not independent from the subject. A search for sources in English and Korean does not yeild significant coverage from third-party reliable sources to establish notability. Please note that the main contributor states she is the Overseas Content Manager for AXB Entertainment, running afoul of WP:COI. xplicit 07:10, 22 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. SoWhy 13:30, 6 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Darul Uloom Amjadia

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The organization doesn't seem to pass even the WP:GNG, the most basic rule on notability. There are a few scant mentions of the organization's name as well as individuals associated with it, but nothing further than that. The subject thus lacks sustained coverage in any way. The "unreferenced" tag has remained on the article for two months with no progress made. MezzoMezzo (talk) 05:11, 22 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom. Eperoton (talk) 22:36, 4 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 19:23, 5 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Non-notable regional shopping mall lacking non-trivial, independent support. reddogsix (talk) 04:36, 22 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure) Ajf773 (talk) 05:19, 5 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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A spectular list of non notable businesses. Fails WP:NOTDIR and WP:NOTTRAVEL Ajf773 (talk) 06:45, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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  • There are only six articles for hotels in Nigeria, four in Lagos (the fifth doesn't count as it leads to the hotel chain article). If they don't have articles they don't deserve to be listed. This is not a forum for free advertising for hotels. Ajf773 (talk) 20:04, 29 August 2017 (UTC)\[reply]
@Ajf773 I am trying to avoid replying to comments to my !votes on AFD, but there are some replies I just can't overlook despite trying to. You will be doing me a lot of good if you can read my statements carefully and not present me out of context to favour deletion or twist my rationale to show a lack of understanding of guideline on my path. Never did I insinuate that non notable hotels should be included in the article. I'm not sure of your definition of "many", but in this context I definitely consider anything up to five as many. And an hotel having article on WP before inclusion is never a mandatory prerequisite in a scanty underrepresented article such as this one. A reliable independent source that show significant coverage is enough for now, until the article gets saturated then further filter mechanism can be used on the list such as having an article on WP. I have been working with lists for a considerable time on WP and the guideline of a WP article existing before inclusion was definitely not created to prevent notable articles from being included to lists, rather it was created to prevent vandalism and unnecessary additions to saturated lists, not one such as this. Besides, if I was ignorant of that guideline I wouldn't have added, "many of which have articles on WP" to my entry.
If you think the article contains few notable and many non-notable hotels, then it is perfectly okay if you remove all the hotels lacking a sufficient inline RS. I'm fascinated by buildings and notable structures, so I will def work on this article only if it is kept. History have taught me not to improve articles when an AFD is ongoing, I can't have my work wasted in the bin. My initial statements remain 100% valid, off the top of my head, there is InterContinental Lagos (tallest hotel in West Africa and one of the tallest buildings in Africa), Oriental Hotel, Four Points, Transcorp Hilton, Tinapa Lakeside Hotel, Le Meridien Hotel 2, Ibis Hotel, Renaissance hotel are some of the notable hotels yet to have articles and it will be inline with policy if they are added to the list with ref, even without articles. "runs to my hideout" Darreg (talk) 21:19, 2 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
There is a distinct difference between buildings and structures and hotels. One are geographic features and the other are businesses. There is clear notability requirements for both WP:GEOFEAT and WP:NCORP. The issue I have is the user of these List of hotels in x as a medium for travel guides or advertising which would fail the WP:NOT policy. We could have an article List of buildings and structures in Nigeria, as per the same lists that exists for other African countries, and appears to be more suitable for listing articles like these. Ajf773 (talk) 22:16, 2 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I agree about the advertising issue, I planned on deleting 90% of the present hotels in the article after this AFD is closed. I would have done it now but I don't want to improve articles in an open AFD. Your suggestion on List of buildings and structures in Nigeria is great, something I will consider in the future. There are many great structures here that many people don't know about. Darreg (talk) 23:00, 2 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Depending on where this article ends up (as a keep or no consensus) I proposed merging everything into that new article. Ajf773 (talk) 23:34, 2 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I'm fine with retaining or a merger. I just need a list article that will accommodate buildings such as this in Nigeria. Darreg (talk) 23:49, 2 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 19:23, 5 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

M2 macrophages and their role in kidney transplantation

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This is an essay, not an article. WP:NOTESSAYIVORK Discuss 06:25, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 19:24, 5 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ehsan Rehan

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not a notable figure. cited sources are not RS. there is some coverage in rabwah.net, however the org is linked with the subject and no RS . Saqib (talk) 05:56, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete and redirect to Patari.pk. SoWhy 13:29, 6 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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not a notable record chart. cited sources are not RS. Saqib (talk) 05:53, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Literally the Patari.pk Weekly Top 20 [14] should be enough to prove this chart exists. Not sure why you have such a problem with Pakistani wikipedia articles and members contributing to this website. If you spent this much energy is reporting sock puppets which are destroying History of Pakistan, then maybe people would take you more seriously. --PAKHIGHWAY (talk) 14:11, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@PAKHIGHWAY: You better comment on content, not on me. I don't know why you think I have got issues with Pakistani articles or contributors. Have you seen me carelessly nominating any other Pakistani article for deletion? anyways, this chart is not notable enough in my opinion to have a standalone page at the moment, so you need to prove otherwise. The article mentions only two sourced at the moment - one is primary and the other one is non-RS which doesn't convey notability. Why don't you take a look at the WP's criteria on Wikipedia:Record charts . --Saqib (talk) 14:24, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete and redirect to Lifestyle medicine. The consensus was clear to delete. I took the liberty of creating a redirect while closing to make attribution easier. SoWhy 12:55, 6 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Very obvious self promotion of an academic, and the academic's associated program. Would need to be rewritten from scratch; probably can't b/c this appears to fail GNG with respect to there being independent sources with substantial discussion of this "field". Might deserve a mention in Lifestyle medicine. But not this; this needs to go. Jytdog (talk) 04:42, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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*Comment - I would like to see this article listed for discussion somewhere where the Food and Drink WikiProject can see it and participate. This may not need to be a medical article. Barbara (WVS)   18:14, 29 August 2017 (UTC) *Another comment - Here's the deal, this topic and article possesses commercial information that is available from minimally-trained people. But training and education is also provided at the University Level from a multitude of graduate schools. In addition, I have found one review article that describes this topic (see the talk page of the article). Another source is from a medical professional society (.org). I have trimmed the article and it is now a stub. Somehow I am not optimistic about this article surviving this deletion discussion, but I will improve as much as possible. I'm pretty sure that is a good faith effort to provide information for readers. It is probably important because readers will benefit from this article so they can differentiate the 'charlatans' from the clinicians. Barbara (WVS)   19:16, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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I have removed all the academic babble and academic self-promotion and written everything this article had to say in plain English. There is no "there" there. Jytdog (talk) 04:25, 30 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
PMID 26937315 is a review apparently by the person who created this article who yes, appears to be on a campaign to have this neologist wrinkle on nutrition seen as a Shiny New Thing. See Nutrition#Advice_and_guidance. Teaching people how to cook, as well as what to acquire, is part of nutrition advice and guidance, and has been since forever. Per that article. Per this US govt program. Per Sylvester Graham. There is no unique "here" here, topic-wise. Just academic marketing. Jytdog (talk) 16:33, 30 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Yup should be redirected to the standard thing. We see many examples of people trying to create a new name for something for which we already have an article under the standard name. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 06:38, 31 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

*Comment - synonyms will need to be added in this topic because there seems to be quite a few. This will take more time than just a few hours to sort through all the material. The article may need to be renamed. I need suggestions on how to reference the commercial entities who claim to provide this training without actually sending readers to their websites.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Barbara (WVS) (talkcontribs) 18:01, 30 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know why you want to name entities. We are not a directory or a HOWTO guide. Jytdog (talk) 19:34, 30 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
A WP:MOVE proposal might be appropriate. If we already had any articles on the general subject, then we could just merge this one into it, and be done. But we don't, so I think the best approach is cleaning up what we've got. WP:Deletion is not clean up, and the general subject is clearly notable. WhatamIdoing (talk) 22:40, 30 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see how this is not covered in Nutrition#Advice_and_guidance already. It could just be directed there but even that would just be empowering this exercise in academic marketing. Jytdog (talk) 22:44, 30 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe I can see how it's "not covered" in that link because, well, it's not actually covered there? The word cooking doesn't appear anywhere in that section. There is not a single sentence about teaching people to prepare food anywhere in there. "We teach schoolchildren about the USDA's food pyramid" is present, but "We teach sick and at-risk people how to cook" is just not there. Please do provide a direct quotation if I missed it, but I just read every sentence in that entire section, and I did not see a single one that said anything about cooking.
Could this idea be shoe-horned into that 10,000-word-long article? I'm sure it could. But that article ought to be built in summary style, with links out to the ((Main)) articles, and then this content would need to exist on another page anyway, which means that we'd have to create this page all over again. So I see little point in deleting it, especially since the article started off with more than a dozen citations, and it's been demonstrated on this page that the general subject is discussed in multiple books and multiple recent review articles (i.e., exactly the sort that MEDRS approves of as the ideal for claims about scientific evidence).
On a more meta note, when I read comments that dismiss this subject, e.g., as merely an "exercise in academic marketing" (don't you think that a marketing project would have used their trademark instead of a generic, uncapitalized name?), I feel like you are trying to punish an inexperienced editor for starting this page, even if that comes at the cost of getting verifiable information to readers. We can strip promotional language out of an article by editing it. We can broaden an article that mentioned one program by discussing multiple similar programs. But we can't get verifiable information on a notable subject to our readers by deleting everything about the subject. WhatamIdoing (talk) 06:34, 2 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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*Comment and request -I would like feedback regarding the continual deletion of content from this article. You are welcome to discuss this on its talk page. Primary sources are used to define the topic, which is appropriate. No clinical content is being added at this time. It is getting difficult to improve the article when so much content is being removed. Thank you. Barbara (WVS)   17:35, 31 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I wonder why you removed one of the few good refs we have in this diff. About this diff, that was somewhat incorrect. I'll note that the announcement of the pilot webinar for the proposed CME elective says the webinar will be taught by none other than... R. Polak, who as discussed above, does appear to be on a mission to make this a Thing. And as discussed above, that is not what WP is for. There is no difference in policy between abusing Wikipedia to publicize some new medical condition like Retained Blood Syndrome, or to publicize a proposed new medical speciality. WP is not a WP:SOAPBOX. Jytdog (talk) 17:40, 31 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

::Even if Polak is conducting the seminar, the source is a medical society function. Apparently the American College of Preventive Medicine might sponsor an event where an author of a paper is invited to speak. It isn't necessarily Polak who is making this a thing but a professional medical society. I am not understanding why a medical society can't offer education for physicians? In good faith we have to assume that there is sufficient editorial review for all the sources referenced. Best Regards, Barbara (WVS)   18:40, 31 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The point -- of all of Wikipedia -- is our mission to communicate accepted knowledge. That's it. We are not a marketing vehicle for anything. There is all kind of content in WP about a healthy diet, nutrition, etc. Jytdog (talk) 21:06, 31 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I hope you don't go home, Barbara (WVS). I'm not sure what to do with your article yet. Bearian (talk) 13:56, 1 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
This article was not written by Barbara; it was written by a brand-new editor. WhatamIdoing (talk) 06:37, 2 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • I do not understand what is Culinary coaching from reading one sentence. The text needs to explain what "Culinary coaching" is and mention it by name. That can be done soon or after a redirect and close of the discussion. Giving the appropriate WEIGHT will depend on the quality sources or lack thereof. QuackGuru (talk) 18:45, 2 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
"culinary coaching" is not a thing. Somebody came to Wikipedia trying to make it into a thing. That is an abuse of Wikipedia that we have no obligation to follow. Indeed we are obligated to push it out. Jytdog (talk) 18:57, 2 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
A source called it "culinary medicine". It is like a new slogan for Lifestyle medicine. QuackGuru (talk) 19:02, 2 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Again it is just a rebranding of what nutritionists and organizations like the USDA have done for a very long time. You are citing the chief promoter there. Jytdog (talk) 19:29, 2 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
It is a new way of marketing what has been around for ages. It was created by an account who only made contributions to one article. QuackGuru (talk) 19:31, 2 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. The arguments for deletion have claimed that the event has only received routine coverage and is not likely to have a lasting effect that would establish notability. The logic here is sound and based in policy. The arguments for keeping the article have directly countered that the attack has received “widespread (national or international) impact and were very widely covered in diverse sources” and has had continued coverage as the trial of the attacker has gone on. The logic here is also sound and based on policy.

Each side has pointed out that Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. As time has gone on, it does appear that coverage of the attack has continued and expanded. With the addition of these sources, the policy-based consensus has tended toward keeping the article. Furthermore, a sensible compromise has been proposed by BigHaz that at a future date we might be better able to assess the event’s lasting impact and notability. Malinaccier (talk) 15:02, 6 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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WP:NOTNEWS Article about stabbing attack with 1 injury. Received minor international media attention. Suggesting it to be merged into the 2017 Temple Mount crisis article.JBergsma1 (talk) 01:09, 3 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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* Merge and redirect - To list of terrorist incidents in August 2017 instead. This is an obvious case of WP:NOTNEWS and WP:ROUTINE so the fact we are discussing the possibility of preserving any information is generous. This was a minor incident that, while terribly unfortunate, does not necessitate an article and a WP:RAPID check ("don't rush to create articles") could have saved us a lot of time. In the unlikelihood that this establishes a WP:LASTing impact -- not just "there will be a trial" or "but it's labeled terror" -- then maybe this can re-evaluated.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 23:57, 12 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Galatz's argument has convinced me to wait longer for further confirmation that this subject is unnotable. Unfortunately, I also believe the nomination rationale had a few shortcoming and swayed voters to look the other way this time. I'll observe this unnotable incident and revisit it in, say, two months when no major coverage or impact can be established, and WP:RAPID cannot be used as an excuse to keep it.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 16:02, 14 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Unscintillating: JBergsma1 was merely offering an alternative for !voters. He does outline a deletion rationale in his opening statement, and a merge can be decided at AfD if there is a consensus for it. If you need dozens of examples of AfDs where the outcome was "merge and redirect", I can happily supply them. Perhaps you could contribute to this AfD discussion instead of requesting an immediate closure with no progress being made?TheGracefulSlick (talk) 04:15, 13 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • The OP stated, "Suggesting it be merged..."  That is not a "deletion rationale".  I am adding WP:NPASR to my !vote in case the OP agrees with you that a deletion was intended.  The OP was advised before posting here that "discussion guidelines" are available, so I suggest that the next nomination he/she take advantage of the community's advice.  Unscintillating (talk) 09:08, 13 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • @TheGracefulSlick, Unscintillating I made this nomination when I wasn't aware yet of the possibility to nominate an article for merging, but in my opinion this article still fits the AfD as it is WP:NOTNEWS and received minor coverage as a whole. With my suggestion to merge, I wanted to say that the article either should be deleted or should be merged. I didn't put it down there, so that's my mistake.JBergsma1 (talk) 12:19, 13 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Icewhiz: is your standard for inclusion really that low that you ignore the lack of WP:DIVERSE international coverage, lack of a WP:LASTING impact, lack of coverage outside a regular news cycle, and the trivial mention of the prime minister? If your WP:CRYSTALBALL argument for "expected" (expected according to who -- you?) future coverage of a trial is the best you have, (see WP:ROUTINE) then I strongly recommend you strike your !vote, and create a more thoughtful response in tune with our guidelines, not your own.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 18:52, 13 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • It is, of cource, nowhere written that to pass WP:NCRIME an article must have international coverage (although this stabbing attack was covered internationally). What is written is WP:GEOSCOPE: " Coverage of an event nationally or internationally may make notability more likely, but such coverage should not be the sole basis for creating an article." i.e., national coverage can suffice to meet GEOSCOPE - and does routinely suffice with WP:NCRIME articles; although, of course, additional indici of notability are also needed.E.M.Gregory (talk) 12:14, 15 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • With an 11 day old event - some crystalballing is required. This is a case where waiting - both for article creation and article deletion is warranted. This isn't a trivial mention of the PM - but rather a bedside visit. Coverage of this event was wide in the Israeli news cycle (and the PM visit extended this over the initial coverage, as did the video) and this also got international mentions. At the current level of coverage it passed WP:NCRIME for an 11 day old event. Just because the victim was Israeli is not a reason to set a lower bar for deletion. If I were to vote on this event 6 months hence - my position might change based on the coverage the event receives then.19:24, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
  • This is the coverage I see in Hebrew - [15], and this is English - [16]. We even have a mention in Aug 12 following a different stabbing attack. This level of coverage certainly qualifies for NCRIME for an 11 day old event.Icewhiz (talk) 19:29, 13 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Icewhiz: I ask that you do not cast aspirations. I never said anything about "lowering the bar" because the victim was Israeli. Do not try to muddy the waters with that shit; there is simply no place for that if you care at all about civil discussion.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 19:58, 13 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • This wasn't directed at you specifically, I apologize if this was taken so. It is my belief (based on participation in AFD discussions in I/P and non-I/P events) that I/P NCRIME events (and possibly other active conflicts) are more likely to be face merge/redirect/deletion discussions. It is my belief that notability should be applied per the level of coverage regardless of where this occurs.Icewhiz (talk) 20:20, 13 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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also WP:CRYSTAL? you're assuming future coverage will occur. LibStar (talk) 16:45, 14 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
This 12 day old event has been received several spurts of coverage in the past 12 days. It hasn't been a single newcycle item. The videos, the fighting back, the extremely critical injury and recovery, politician attention, etc. - has brought this a bit beyond the "normal" attacks. This is the problem with bringing an event that is only a few days old to AFD - you end up judging it by the coverage up until the point.Icewhiz (talk) 16:52, 14 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@LibStar: I believe you should read my comments below when I clarified this further. I mentioned view two of WP:DEADLINE, where since there is potential for it that its too soon. In 6 months I might feel differently but right now I dont.
I think its premature it say that it died. If you look at Murder of Shelly Dadon you will see that there are huge gaps in the coverage as well, but as the trials move forward it resurfaces. A month after the murder it was gone from the news, but it was back in the news later. I would personally have not created this article yet, but once it is created I think its too premature to delete it.
Additionally WP:RAPID certainly applies as points directly to WP:DEADLINE (I know an essay not a policy, but its what the policy refers to) which states in view two "We can afford to take our time to improve articles, to wait before deleting a new article unless its potential significance cannot be established." Are you telling me that we cannot point to its POTENTIAL significance? That is why it is premature to delete this article until time has proven that there is no potential for significance. And as I said before I would not have created it due to view one, but once it is created, I fall into view two, and feel WP:RAPID applies. - GalatzTalk 14:54, 14 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • @E.M.Gregory: a quick glance will show no one has argued deletion. This is the second time you have inferred I and others have different standards for Isaerli victims. I ask you to provide diffs to support these claims or redact that portion of the comment as it is a personal attack.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 19:28, 15 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • @E.M.Gregory: and how is that relevant to this discussion? I know you are trying to muddy the waters (as usual) by first insinuating I have some prejudice against Israeli victims then bringing up unrelated comments I made but isn't that a little much to keep an article that is going to be kept regardless of your participation. Even for you?TheGracefulSlick (talk) 22:26, 15 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • I was attempting to clarify that your editing shows no particular bias against terrorist attacks in Israel, rather, you dismiss the notability of terrorist attacks that do not produce mass casualties in general.E.M.Gregory (talk) 22:29, 15 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Just as a random aside, I do believe there is that feeling on WP. Not saying this discussion fits into that or not, and not accusing anyone of it, just as a statement of fact. For example, the one case that I always remember for the is Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2016 Tel Aviv shooting because that was the rationale for nominating. - GalatzTalk 19:48, 15 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I agree, so I I left a redirect just so everything is clear, those can be deleted later if we feel that Yavne with a "h" is not a viable search term. I also added a Find Sources template above with the correct spelling. L3X1 (distænt write) )evidence( 18:56, 15 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Setting up a perimeter around a crime scene is standard operating procedure for police forces around the world. At heart this is an isolated incident with minimal human effects and not the slightest inkling of longterm historic importance in the offing... Carrite (talk) 17:10, 22 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
This led to a blockade of Yata next to Hebron, not near Yavne for a few days AFTER the stabber was caught (at the scene itself).Icewhiz (talk) 04:09, 23 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
How do you prove a negative? Carrite (talk) 16:52, 22 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
You can prove it if you wait a few months at least before running to Afd. --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 13:33, 23 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Indeed. And the victim got out of hospital - both gave a spurt of coverage today. An interesting tidbit from the coverage today is that the attacker just came back from an Umrah to Mecca, and according to his confession saw the attack as a religious commandment of Jihdad (as opposed to a secular-nationalist framing).Icewhiz (talk) 14:42, 28 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
When I skimmed the long list of sources from unfamiliar Israeli sites, none of which really offered more than "Palestinian terrorist stabs Israeli worker and is arrested", I admit I did miss the NY Times coverage. But not only is the Times article not specifically about the attack in title or main content, the brief mention comes 22 paragraphs down. An indication of the continuing tensions came on Wednesday when a Palestinian teenager from the West Bank stabbed a supermarket worker in the back in the central Israeli town of Yavne, seriously wounding him, in the kind of attack that has become almost common over the past couple of years. Not only is it incidental coverage, it actually hurts your argument in this context by essentially saying this type of attack is too common to be worthy of its own article. Nonetheless, I did think about the same thing you mention below - that the long list of attacks make it harder to find the one you are looking for, but for that the reader can do a browser in page keyword search. It's better than nothing if the article was deleted altogether, and seems like a fair compromise. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 01:30, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Ah-ha - just checked the edit history and saw why I missed the Times coverage - you just added it after I voted. Now I don't feel so embarrassed. Calling me out for missing coverage that isn't in the article seems a bit unfair, but I've been bludgeoned worse by others. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 02:00, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I have added some more sources to the article that I hope eases your concerns. I added a few UK, Australia and Italy sources to show more international coverage. - GalatzTalk 13:22, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
TimTempleton, I ought to have written that, and do apologize. Unless an article at AfD is prima facie k or d, I tend to run my own news search. In this case, I assumed tha there must have been intl. coverage, and added a little of what is out there. Do note that there has been WP:SIGCOV from Iran and Russia - not all of it added to article. International coverage does not begin and end with The AFP, BBC and CNN are not the alpha to omega of the international media.E.M.Gregory (talk) 10:56, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
No problem - I didn't want my vote to be based on an oversight. This discussion could start a policy initiative so I've come back. I like BigHaz's idea below that we need to come up with some sort of threshold for what is notable or not. I visited WP:NOTNEWS: "While including information on recent developments is sometimes appropriate, breaking news should not be emphasized or otherwise treated differently from other information." I read most of the English coverage (am not a fan of foreign language sources, since they are just used to show notability and not really add to the user experience - but that's a different hill), and still feel the horrific attack was not something that warrants its own article. As a counterpoint, I found a domestic terrorism incident that was also horrific and also thankfully not fatal, which has not been turned into a dedicated article. Unite the Right rally#August 12 discusses the brutal beating of Deandre Harris by Daniel Borden and five others, but it is a single paragraph in a larger article. I would argue that the Harris beating is at least as noteworthy as the Yavnez stabbing - even the NY Times coverage says Yavnez is all too common. The aftereffects - the Yatta village lockdown - are also considered routine according to the Israeli media coverage.[[21]] So to help out anyone who wants to come up with some consistent guidelines for how to address this and future AfD discussions, perhaps it becomes a checklist, with three criteria that the article has to pass:
1) Is the event unique, either as itself or through its eventual societal/legal/political impact?
2) Is the event covered in detail by more than just local outlets, signifying general interest (national is fine, international is great)?
3) Is the coverage diverse - i.e. not just multiple sources rehashing the same basic facts (as you might find with outlets that recycle AP coverage)?
I think this event fails 1 (as of today), just barely passes 2 and does better with 3. But all 3 should pass. Then the next decision tree is 4) Is the event part of a broader event, such as a sustained series of attacks? Since 4 applies, a merge would make more sense (if 4 didn't it would be a clean delete). I hunted some more to find if there was a more appropriate merge destination than List of terrorist incidents in August 2017 but it's a bit of a hodgepodge. There's Timeline of the Israeli–Palestinian conflict, which ends in 2014 and sends readers to Israeli–Palestinian conflict (2015–2016), but there's nothing specifically for 2017. Absent someone who is willing to create an article for 2017 Israeli-Palestinian terrorist incidents, the only suitable place for a redirect is the aforementioned August 2017 article. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 21:02, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I have seen several sources refer to this as part of a series of attacks as part of the 2017 Temple Mount crisis. - GalatzTalk 16:25, 30 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
If this attack can be linked, that would be an excellent redirect option. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 18:49, 30 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I know I have seen it elsewhere but the NYT article refers to it as part of the continued tensions [22]. - GalatzTalk 19:03, 30 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Unsurprisingly I'm going to have to remind you of WP:BLUDGEON yet again. Your keep vote sufficiently tells us you oppose other options yet you have used two additional occasions to express how you oppose a redirect. Let other editors vote. We don't need constant updates reasserting how you are against anything other than keep.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 01:06, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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  • In response to the proposals made by BigHaz & Templeton, I would say that WP:NCRIME covers the territory very well; not to mention the disadvantages of entangling notability guidelines with the debate over what constitutes an act of "terrorism".E.M.Gregory (talk) 14:19, 30 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for pointing that article out. It mirrors somewhat my thoughts above and I had not seen it before. This article fails WP:DIVERSE, and arguably WP:DEPTH and WP:PERSISTENCE. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 14:36, 30 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
It definitely meets DIVERSE - it has been picked up by every Israeli, Jewish, and Palestinian source - as well as several international sources. Regarding DEPTH - there is feature length coverage here in several sources. PERSISTENCE here is tricky due to WP:RAPID - the coverage is sustained from the attack to present (with major coverage this week - following hospital release and indictment) - but still covers a short time span as this is a recent event. Note that in most cases national coverage is enough, and that Israeli/Jewish press do not cover EVERY attack in a persistent manner (most stabbings - die out in terms of coverage within a few days - this one has been ongoing due to the "drama" associated with it (all on film, a victim on death's door, and the attacker's behavior and motivation)).Icewhiz (talk) 14:51, 30 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. SoWhy 06:12, 8 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Chango (EDM)

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Fails WP:BASIC, WP:ANYBIO, and WP:MUSICBIO. Magnolia677 (talk) 20:50, 21 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. – filelakeshoe (t / c) 09:59, 7 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails Wikipedia general notability guideline and film guideline. Cannot find any awards given to show, or news article about it. Tdts5 (talk) 20:32, 14 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. SoWhy 06:14, 8 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Not notable Ryanharmany (talk) 19:59, 14 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment Several sources in Farsi pointing to notability, e.g. this. How many non-notable poets are re-published and celebrated on the 69th anniversary of their death? By the way, Google Translator works fine in Farsi. 84.73.134.206 (talk) 06:48, 21 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. SoWhy 06:15, 8 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Coverage consists of press releases, routine announcements, promotionally worded articles, and a rating of number 136 in USA Today best hotels for 2015. This organization has not received significant attention from independent sources to support a claim of notability per WP:NRV and WP:ORGIN. Has not received non-trivial coverage in mulitple sources independent of the subject; fails WP:CORPDEPTH. Wikipedia is not a platform for promotion per WP:NOTPROMO. ---- Steve Quinn (talk) 03:00, 14 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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What the above sources provided by Cthomas3 indicate is this topic does indeed fail WP:CORPDEPTH. All of these articles are routine coverage; they are routine announcements describing hotel amenities that may or may not be glamorous or opulent. This is not reporting, it is regurgitating ordinary qualities that all hotels have and, in this instance, what all five star hotels have throughout the world. If information such as this is the only thing available in articles then this is not significant coverage even though it is an array of sources. Non-trivial coverage is emphasized in CORDEPTH, WP:SPIP, GNG, ORG, and so on.
Each of these has at most a few paragraphs of mundane, routine, trivial coverage. These seem to be on par with product placement. Also, it has elements of churnalism, where reduced staff and budgets in our present day causes organizations and reporters to reach for promotional materials sent to them via mail, email, fax machine and so on. There is no shoe leather that is used-up by footwork and interviews. We have to look deeper than these article showing up as reliable sources. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 06:44, 28 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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  • In 2016, ARTIC allocated $35 million in order to add a restaurant, three, four-bedroom suites, and a renovated lobby to the St. Regis Bal Harbour resort!
The rest of the article is the same. Such content is excluded per WP:NOTSPAM. K.e.coffman (talk) 03:48, 2 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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An organization is not notable merely because a notable person or event was associated with it. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 05:12, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

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The result was no consensus. No prejudice against speedy renomination per low participation herein. North America1000 06:07, 5 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Doesn't meet WP:NACTOR or WP:GNG. Has been tagged for notability for 9 years; hopefully we can now resolve whether the issue is WP:NEGLECT or lack of notability. There was in 2008 a proposal to merge it to Wherever You Are (2008 film). As it's not the only film he has worked on, I think this could be a misleading redirect. Boleyn (talk) 08:21, 13 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. —SpacemanSpiff 14:46, 5 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Zanai Bhosle

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Poorly sourced and advertorially toned WP:BLP of a singer, whose only stated claim of notability is that she appears as a guest vocalist on one single by a band she isn't actually a member of. This is not a claim of notability that passes WP:NMUSIC by itself, but nothing else here is any stronger -- and the article is referenced to just two newspaper articles which are both barely longer than blurbs, and thus don't constitute substantive coverage for the purposes of getting past WP:GNG. No prejudice against recreation in the future if and when she accomplishes something noteworthy, but right now it's WP:TOOSOON. Bearcat (talk) 17:57, 21 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Unconfirmable, signs point to a hoax, but at best not notable enough to draw the kind of coverage seen for other such entities. bd2412 T 21:51, 7 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Rajkiya PG College, Rajesultanpur

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This article is about a college for which I cannot verify the existence. The article was created by an editor who has previously placed false / hoax information in articles. This article appears to have been simply copied from RMRS PG College, including the references. According to the status section, this college is 12(b) and 2(f) but the reference link is dead. However, searching on the same site, I found a listing for all 12(b) and 2(f) colleges. It is this pdf. I cannot find this college in the list. The article also claims that the college is affiliated with Dr. Ram Manohar Lohia Avadh University. The university's web site has a list of affiliated colleges. Looking at the Ambedkar Nagar list, cannot find this college listed. Even if this college exists, I doubt that any of the information in the article is correct or true and WP:TNT would apply if evidence of this college were to actually be found. Whpq (talk) 20:41, 21 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 19:24, 5 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Tambaram Mudichur road

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This subject fails general notability guidelines due to a lack of significant coverage from reliable publications. Steps were taken WP:BEFORE this nomination to locate appropriate sourcing but were not successful, save for passing, trivial mentions. Recommending deletion until such time appropriate sourcing is available. Regards, Yamaguchi先生 (talk) 20:29, 21 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment I have added the article to Wikiprojects Indian roads. It maybe more notable as State Highway 48, as per some roads listed at List of state highways in Tamil Nadu. Derek Andrews (talk) 22:19, 21 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. SoWhy 12:45, 6 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails WP:NARTIST and WP:NSCHOLAR. DrStrauss talk 15:17, 21 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep and expand with content from the Japanese version. I can't read Japanese, but from what I can tell using google translate, there are enough sources for an article. Worldcat also shows holdings; try looking for Haisen Kusaba. Mduvekot (talk) 20:19, 21 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus.  Sandstein  12:04, 6 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Not notable per WP:NASTRO. No peer-reviewed coverage of this specific object, or of a small number of objects including this system. All coverage is of bulk exoplanet discoveries. No significant popular press coverage. No claims to notability in the article. Lithopsian (talk) 18:44, 15 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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There is only one usable source for the article, and the information it has replicates what is already in the list of exoplanets. There's no point in expanding a line from a table into a full article if we don't have additional information to provide. Tarl N. (discuss) 07:56, 2 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete.  Sandstein  12:06, 6 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Bill Wambach

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Holding the national record at a certain age doesn't pass WP:ATHLETE ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 09:58, 15 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Power~enwiki (talk) 03:02, 5 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Non-notable song. No target article to redirect too That man from Nantucket (talk) 13:08, 22 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. czar 07:40, 6 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Kashmira Kulkarni

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Non-notable actress. Google search turns up the usual vanity hits, but no in-depth coverage. No reliable independent references. Robert McClenon (talk) 14:31, 22 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. SoWhy 12:45, 6 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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WP:BLP of an artist and designer, whose only stated claim of notability is that she got a project development grant in 2014. This is not based on any reliable source coverage about her -- of the three sources here, two are primary sources and one is a transcript of a Q&A interview on a podcast. As always, every person is not automatically entitled to a Wikipedia article just because she and her work exist -- she must be the subject of enough reliable source coverage to verify that she passes WP:CREATIVE for something. Bearcat (talk) 16:51, 22 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Power~enwiki (talk) 03:01, 5 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Per WP:NSPORT. I may be missing some criteria that would allow for a team like this to meet WP guidelines, but how could a team that's never had a professional match be notable enough for it's own WP page? It seems WP:TOOSOON for this team to have it's own page - at the very least additional sources needed to be provided to substantiate claims of notability. Comatmebro (talk) 18:10, 22 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Update - squads now announced. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 09:29, 28 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. SoWhy 12:44, 6 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Advertorially toned WP:BLP of a writer, based almost entirely on primary sources with very little evidence of reliable source coverage shown at all -- out of 36 footnotes here, literally one of them represents a reliable source writing about her in the third person and even that one's a blurb. No prejudice against recreation in the future if she can be written and sourced properly, but nothing claimed here entitles her to an automatic presumption of notability per WP:AUTHOR just because she exists if the sourcing isn't there. Bearcat (talk) 20:13, 16 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was merge to List of Star Wars species (U–Z)#Yuuzhan Vong. SoWhy 12:42, 6 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikipedia is not Wikia. Star Wars race not from the movies, but from an expanded universe novel. Entirely unnotable. Sorry ‡ Єl Cid of ᐺalencia ᐐT₳LKᐬ 10:26, 16 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 21:02, 7 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sarah Gregory (singer)

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Delete or merge with Glenn Gregory. Insufficiently notable in her own right; promotional vibe detected. Quis separabit? 23:35, 22 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. SoWhy 12:40, 6 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Rudi London

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nn artist. Tagged 2009 & 2016. No independent in-depth coverage cited. Staszek Lem (talk) 00:09, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) J947(c) (m) 18:33, 5 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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nn business. Nothing changed since the prev Afd: Sources are routine PR coverage Staszek Lem (talk) 00:14, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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