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The result was DELETE. postdlf (talk) 16:54, 16 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

List of decision software[edit]

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A list with external links only. No evidence of notability. Possibly spam for one supplier. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 16:31, 3 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. causa sui (talk) 17:44, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

AfDs for this article:

Edin Selimović[edit]

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Article was orignially taged for speedy deletion per WP:CSD#G4, but was declined as Novi Pazar were promotted into a fully pro league since the last afd. Important here is that the players in question have not played for Novi Pazar in the SuperLiga and therefore still fail WP:NSPORT. In terms of general notability nothing has changed since the last afd either. Sir Sputnik (talk) 23:28, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I am also nominating the following articles for deletion for the same reason.

Ibrahim Arifović (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Elvedin Škrijelj (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
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The result was keep -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:17, 17 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

David Müller (footballer born 1991)[edit]

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Plays in the third level of football in Germany. That may meet the bare minimun for notability, as the German 3rd_Liga is listed as fully professional at Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Fully professional leagues. Yet I note it is the third level. One is not notable only for being a "professional something" ("professional baker", "professional cook") and third level national league is not notable, even if professional - note that the German Football Association official website highlights 1st and 2nd level (men), 1st level (women), Cup (men), Cup (women), and the League Cup (men)[extinct competition. That is, DFB itself seems to assume 3rd_Liga as not that much notable. And David Müller is not otherwise notable, in the WP sense. - Nabla (talk) 22:48, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Clarification:The above refers to the english version of DFB's website. The german version has 3.Liga, as it has just about every level. - Nabla (talk) 10:34, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
What's the point of 'strong' comments/keep/delete? Shouting makes any kind of stronger point?
The site used as reference also says :«And it is not an unbiased review either, since I'm writing from the perspective of a fan. If you don't like it, don't read it.» (main page) and «I make no claims as to the accuracy of the information on this site» (about). Actually it is a very good site, but is is just as it says: a unreliable fan site.
The Kikers site you pointed also covers amateur liga. Should we then write about every team and player there?
Should we write about every professional working for fully professional organizations as Wal Mart? Shell? Exxon? They are part of something way larger than the German 3rd level footbal.
- Nabla (talk) 15:32, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
On the website of Kicker (sports magazine) are not detailed match reports about matches of the German fourth division (Regionalliga). But kicker.de and other sports magazines review the performance of every single player of every single game of the German 3rd League. Even like the website of the German Football Association presents match reports for every match of the German 3rd League. [5] By the way I used the word strong because David Müller obviously meets the notability guidelines and because this here is the wrong place for comparisons of fully professional athletes with employees of business enterprises. I consider that the salaries of the German 3rd league are higher as the salaries of the Portuguese second division and I also consider that the audience numbers are higher. This comparison makes more sense. --Yoda1893 (talk) 16:04, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Now I have checked it. The numbers speak for themselves. [6] (second Portuguese divsion) [7] (German 3rd League) --Yoda1893 (talk) 16:17, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I might agree that that playing at the Portuguese Second division is even less of a hint for notability than playing at the German 3rd division. I would clearly vote delete on any player from it (if that would be the only reason). They are both not inherently notable. But I miss the point of the comparison... That there are other things even less notable does not make one thing notable. - Why compare paid worked at XXX with paid workers at YYY? One criterion for having this player is that he is a paid professional for a fully professional organization. I'm simply pointing by means of example that such argument, per se, is a extremely weak one: most of the adult world population is or was a paid professional for a professional organization. Yet most of the adult world population is not (WP-)notable. And I doubt you want to add wage as a major criterion. (It may hint, yes) I do accept the individual performance review as a good hint, better than I thought there would be (I regularly use DFB's site, but only the english version). But I still think he is not (WP-)notable. Oh!, thank you for discussing politely, it is often not possible in here. Tks. - Nabla (talk) 17:07, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The point is that players of the second Portuguese Division are (just like players of the German 3rd League or the English and Italian fourth division) notable according to the notability guidelines of the English (and also German) Wikipedia. There are thousands of articles about players of this leagues. If you want to change the notability guidelines this is surely not the right place. In my opinion a singer who was one time in his life on chart position 99 with his single is not notable. But the notability guidelines say that he is notable. --Yoda1893 (talk) 17:45, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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*Delete (no sources) - If he has played in the German third league this article should be kept. But as there are currently no sources to confirm this I have to say delete. Adam4267 (talk) 17:38, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • The guideline says that it will «*generally* be regarded as notable» (my emphasys). My point is that in this case - plays at 3rd level, and not notable otherwise - it does not fit in the general case. That is, the nomination is entirely within the guideline. Please, assume good faith. - Nabla (talk) 20:33, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • Generally means here obviously that a player who did not play in a fully professional league can also be notable if there are other reasons for notability and that a player who played in a fully professional league is definitely ( = generally) notable. I do not assume bad faith. But in this way the guideline was ever interpreted. --Yoda1893 (talk) 21:05, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
      • Generally means "more often than not", "mostly", etc. (see: "generaly" at wordnetweb). That is quite different from definitely. I am aware that there are other similar articles around, I said so to begin with. As I see it, they are also not notable. - Nabla (talk) 21:26, 11 September 2011 (UTC) PS: I am also aware that it has been interpreted in the sense you say. I am arguing that it is too broad a interpretation. Actually I said so since the first line I wrote.[reply]
        • Generally can also mean (according to your link) without distinction of one from others. In this sentence it means according to the common interpretation that players of fully professional leagues are unattached of details definitely notable. The following sentence is: "A player who [...] has not played in any games [...] is therefore not generally regarded as being notable." In this context generally obviously does not mean mostly. By the way notability guidelines would not really make sense if they would not be clear criterias. --Yoda1893 (talk) 23:31, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
          • I am sorry, but I could not understand a thing you are saying. (A german (?) and a portugueses talking in english... something got lost somewhere...). Anyway, thanks, it is clear we will not change our minds for now, and that our opinions are different. - Nabla (talk) 06:00, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Rlendog (talk) 02:21, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

FILF[edit]

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Neologism. Sources used are too weak to support the article. —Jeremy v^_^v Components:V S M 21:54, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Rlendog (talk) 02:20, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Air signature[edit]

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I can find nothing to substantiate the content of this article or establish notability. Indeed, the final sentence ("It is made by a B-tech student of JIIT, Noida, India") suggest this is not yet a notable product. RichardOSmith (talk) 21:31, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom.Polyamorph (talk) 10:18, 17 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Well if it does, in fact, exist, then I think it would be notable (unless it was made in his garage in a trial and error fashion). Please note: I still agree with my above post. mysterytrey (talk) 02:01, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Steven Zhang The clock is ticking.... 01:00, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Peg Norman[edit]

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Does not meet WP:POLITICIAN as a necessary article. Only uses one source and lacks content. Aaaccc (talk), 10 September 2011 (UTC)
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Since the My Left Breast article is only two sentences wouldn't it make more sense to merge Norman's article with it? Aaaccc (talk), 11 September 2011 (UTC)
We don't usually merge larger articles into a smaller artricle simply because the smaller is "smaller". And being a sourcable part of her overall life, information about the filmmaker's years of political aspirations has no place in an article about a film. As it has been the recipient of multiple critical comemntary and review, far better to allow the film article to itself grow through the course of normal editing. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 23:06, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Rlendog (talk) 02:10, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Flavescent[edit]

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This sub-stub is a Dictionary definition. It's already in Wiktionary; we don't need to mirror wiktionary here. bobrayner (talk) 21:01, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Flavescent is an adjective, not the name of a color. Saying that flavescent is a color is like saying that sad is an emotion. Deor (talk) 01:19, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keraunos, did you actually read the article before commenting? What it says is that "flavous" was used in 1666, not "flavescent". In any case, there are many thousnads of English words that have been in use since the middle ages or even earlier, let alone the 17th century. We don't have articles on concepts just because words relating to them have been around for centuries: Wikipedia is not a dictionary. JamesBWatson (talk) 14:08, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

*Keep, but rename to Flavous which is an actual English color name. VMS Mosaic (talk) 03:39, 16 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Reply - How would it be different than an article like Fulvous? It simply needs a little expansion in regard to animal coloration. VMS Mosaic (talk) 04:10, 16 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Fulvous should be deleted as well, since it is basically a dab page consisting entirely of partial title matches and non–title matches. Deor (talk) 11:25, 16 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Fulvous is really otherstuff, but personally I feel that Fulvous is a dab masquerading as a colour article, and it may be better to just convert it into a genuine dab (ie. remove the preamble and photos, keep the list). Though I wouldn't object if somebody else felt it was worth AfDing. bobrayner (talk) 12:13, 16 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Rlendog (talk) 02:26, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Attacks on nonconformists and alternative lifestylers[edit]

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I was originally for this article. However, the topic has very few sources and is wrongly categorized as discrimination. It is trying to push a POV that attacks on certain subcultures are discrimination. I have informed the author that comparing it to forms such as Racism, Sexism, or Homophobia is not appropriate because that these are unchosen facets of one's self and that comparing it to religious discrimination, classism, adultism, or weightism would be more appropriate since these are possible (although sometimes difficult) to change. The fact of the matter is that these subcultures are chosen. An article about bullying againist these groups is definatly appropriate but it should not be considered discrimination with the above circumstances not addressed. Not to mention as stated before the name is extremely unencylopedic. Rainbowofpeace (talk) 03:31, 1 September 2011 (UTC) (Note I completed the deletion request procedure laid out at WP:AFD, which had not been followed initially. Hekerui (talk) 20:33, 10 September 2011 (UTC))[reply]

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The result was redirect to SpongeBob SquarePants (season 1). If there's anything worth merging that hasn't already been done, it can be done from the history. (non-admin closure) Steven Zhang The clock is ticking.... 01:03, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Scaredy Pants[edit]

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This article has no sources to establish the notability. JJ98 (Talk / Contributions) 20:09, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to List of Adventure Time episodes. If anything is worth merging, it can be done from the history as per normal. (non-admin closure) Steven Zhang The clock is ticking.... 01:05, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Adventure Time with Fionna and Cake[edit]

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Clearly non-notable. JJ98 (Talk / Contributions) 20:07, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. causa sui (talk) 17:46, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Fly (video studio)[edit]

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Seemingly self-promotional page for a non-notable video studio. Google search turns up almost no relevant hits (except a Facebook page), and article cites no sources claiming credibility. Running Google Translate on the pages it links to gives a website that is largely under construction. ErikTheBikeMan (talk) 20:05, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. causa sui (talk) 17:46, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

John Di Saia[edit]

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This is a person who is occasionally quoted by newspapers on plastic surgery, and sometimes acts as a medical pundit on his local fox news affiliate. However, there are no third party reliable sources that are actually about this person, and so I believe he does not meet the general notability guideline or the notability guideline for people. This article seems to be an accessory to a promotional campaign with the goal of inserting his blog as a source in various cosmetic surgery articles. MrOllie (talk) 19:58, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Dr Di Saia is quoted in the Orange County Register frequently. A search at their site reveals over 100 citations in the last few years alone : http://www.ocregister.com/search/?q=john+di+saia&fistype=site

The entry I wrote on him at Wikipedia and the sourcing for the links I have posted at related topics related to that which he has written at his blog on the topics discussed on those pages. You are looking for validation at Wikipedia. He is a source for that validation. The guy is a real plastic surgeon and a good one.

The sourcing includes television spots, newspaper articles, invited quotations in the local newspaper and a medical publication that he has written. I also read his site for the educational background.

I am not a paid writer and as Wiki links are nofollow there is minimal promotional benefit. Jen 111 Smith (talk) 21:24, 10 September 2011 (UTC) — Jen 111 Smith (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

Jen, thanks for your contributions. However, you need to read the Wikipedia notability requirements at WP:B and WP:ACADEMIC. Being a "real plastic surgeon" (even "a good one") is not enough. Being quoted a lot is not enough. There has to be significant coverage ABOUT him by independent reliable sources in order for him to qualify for a Wikipedia article. This may seem awfully stringent, but it is necessary to make sure that the only articles published here are about things and people that are important enough to include in an international encyclopedia. --MelanieN (talk) 15:12, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

On the academic issue he has unfortunately published as John Di Saia and John DiSaia. His CV (http://www.psinteractive.net/cv.htm) shows more medical journal publications than you have listed. Google scholar is not inclusive apparently. "Significant Coverage" is a pretty vague term. He has been on several television news programs as a source of general knowledge on plastic surgery in particular liposuction and fat removal technologies. I figured your medical section here was pretty sparse and reviewing the American plastic surgeons you have listed, the pages have much less on them than I was able to construct on Dr D. Being a good plastic surgeon can't be a criterion as you have Jan Adams listed and we all know what he did. It's your wiki. I figured quality professionals who obviously contribute to their fields and the internet was enough.

If you were to look into Dr D's representation on the review sites on the net, he is very well regarded by patients:

http://www.ratemds.com/doctor-ratings/36292/Dr-John-DiSaia-Orange-CA.html http://www.realself.com/find/California/Orange-County/Plastic-Surgeon/John-Philip-Di-Saia http://www.healthgrades.com/physician/dr-john-disaia-y75lk/ http://www.yelp.com/biz/john-di-saia-md-orange

Than again that might not matter here much either. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jen 111 Smith (talk • contribs) 22:13, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You're right that patient review sites don't carry any weight here; they are anonymous and anyone can write anything they want, so they are neither WP:INDEPENDENT nor WP:RELIABLE as sites. I did search under both spellings of his name in both Google Scholar and PubMed. I don't know why the JAMA letter-to-the-editor didn't turn up on that search, but like the thing I cited above, it is a comment, not a peer reviewed article. The bottom line is that he has had only one article in a peer reviewed journal, published in 1998, in which he was one of three authors. The other items on his CV are things like a presentation at a meeting, or publications in non-peer-reviewed journals. That bibliography is a long, long way from meeting the requirements of WP:ACADEMIC. Since he doesn't qualify as a "professor" type who has had a major impact on his field, he would have to qualify under the general guideline for biographies, and that requires that independent reliable sources write ABOUT him - not just quote him or his blogs. --MelanieN (talk) 02:15, 14 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. causa sui (talk) 17:48, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Huntsman cheese[edit]

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I believe that either this page should remain a stub, or be merged with either Gloucester cheese's or Stilton's articles.Lady Noremon (talk) 08:51, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect. Rlendog (talk) 02:04, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Out from Under[edit]

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Doesn't have any sources, can not stand for it's on. Sauloviegas (talk) 19:11, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Rlendog (talk) 01:53, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Pink-orange[edit]

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Non-notable colour. Some ghits mention it in passing when describing the colour of another subject but no in-depth discussion of pink-orange which would establish notability. bobrayner (talk) 19:07, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy delete. CSD G4. I agree, it's close enough to the version deleted at the first AFD. Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:00, 17 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Maharana Pratap The Film[edit]

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Film does not seem to meet notability guidelines, all links provided in the article link to promotional videos or primary sources BOVINEBOY2008 18:26, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Rlendog (talk) 01:50, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Phase Displacement Space Drive[edit]

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No notability, chiefly primary sources, no peer reviews, probable original research, possibly fringe Escape Orbit (Talk) 16:40, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. causa sui (talk) 17:49, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yareah Magazine[edit]

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I found zero significant coverage. SL93 (talk) 13:47, 3 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Rlendog (talk) 01:22, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Abdu'r-Rahman-i-Talabani[edit]

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Delete as unsourced, non-notable article stub. Rms125a@hotmail.com (talk) 13:11, 3 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete No reliable sources, non-notable article. --Cox wasan (talk) 09:12, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Suggest closing out as uncontested. Thanks. Rms125a@hotmail.com (talk) 13:12, 17 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:31, 17 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Kohinoor One[edit]

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I found zero significant coverage for this mall. SL93 (talk) 12:26, 3 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Mkativerata (talk) 20:06, 17 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Mike Share[edit]

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Although much of what is said is unsourced, Share appears to be someone who attempts to do things but doesn't succceed. In some cases he buys his way into a position. I don't see any basis for notability. Bbb23 (talk) 15:30, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Ontario United FC where he is head coach. Off2riorob (talk) 21:48, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
If that isn't deleted (AfD).--Bbb23 (talk) 22:07, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Mkativerata (talk) 20:04, 17 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ontario United FC[edit]

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Wannabe club that has no real record, just hopes. Bbb23 (talk) 15:20, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Comment. I can't sort out what the club is or what they were, so it's not clear to me that this club ever played in the NPSL. The only "source" we have is the club's own website, which, in my view, is not reliable. But, even so, it says, "Although not the same entity Ontario United FC previously was called Buffalo City FC." I don't know what it means by "not the same entity". Then, it says that "the club competed in the 2009 National Premier Soccer League". I think it means that Buffalo City FC competed in 2009. The website also says that it sold its "franchise rights" to FC Buffalo. Then, the website says that the Ontario club was founded in 2011 and INTENDS "to join one of the several top North American soccer leagues". So, we now have the Ontario article AND the Buffalo City FC article. Maybe keeping the Buffalo City FC article (which I've also AfD'ed) makes some sense and keeping the FC Buffalo article (which I have not AfD'ed) also makes sense because it's actually playing, but it would be incestuous to also keep the Ontario article until it plays in something that is considered notable. Ontario is nothing more than a derivative of something else with aspirations.--Bbb23 (talk) 20:54, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Many thanks to frankie for digging for sources. While the club might have met the notability guideline, there is no evidence in this AFD that that can be verified by sources. causa sui (talk) 18:02, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Club Atlético Palermo[edit]

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Doesn't seem to satisfy notability. Divide et Impera (talk) 04:08, 27 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Rlendog (talk) 01:25, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Kaldor's Growth Model[edit]

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Contested redirect - no indications of notability or separate importance. No need for a separate article - content can be incorporated into Nicholas Kaldor. MikeWazowski (talk) 15:16, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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  • How are academic papers about this specific subject, as found in the Google Scholar search linked above, not detailed coverage? Phil Bridger (talk) 11:19, 15 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. causa sui (talk) 18:03, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Joan Robinson's Growth Model[edit]

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Contested redirect - no indications of notability or separate importance. No need for a separate article - content can be incorporated into Joan Robinson. MikeWazowski (talk) 15:15, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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comment. The title is a little odd - but there is some justification for this when looks at some of the sources. The origins of the model are to be found in
* Robinson, Joan (1956) The Accumulation of Capital London: Macmillan & Co. Ltd. AND
* Robinson, Joan (1963) Essays in the Theory of Economic Growth London: Macmillan & Co. Ltd.
I think this would make it not so obvious which book article to make and have this in - though this would be possible. Also I think the model might unbalance the biographical article on her so merging it there might be not so good.
Articles which talk explicitily about this mode include:
* Cuyvers, Ludo, (1979) Joan Robinson's Theory of Economic Growth, Science and Society, 43:3, Fall, p.326
* Gandolfo, G. (1967) Some critical remarks on Joan Robinson’s growth model. Rivista di Politica Economica v.57, February.
* Tobin, James, (1989) "Growth and Distribution: A Neoclassical Kaldor-Robinson Exercise," Cambridge Journal of Economics, Oxford University Press, vol. 13(1), pages 37-45, March.
And a synthesised summary of the model here: D. Hamberg, D. (1963) Essays in the Theory of Economic Growth by Joan Robinson, The American Economic Review Vol. 53, No. 5, Dec., pp. 1109-1114. This might be a very useful source for expanding and clarrifying the topic.
Also I recall seeing textbook versions when I studied this and it is on the syllabus of some courses under this title. I would prefer renaming it to Robinson's growth model but thought to wait until after the afd. (Msrasnw (talk) 11:35, 12 September 2011 (UTC))[reply]
  • If this article is part of an educational project then it should be hosted on that project's web site. This is an encyclopedia. Phil Bridger (talk) 21:29, 15 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Phil, you'd be surprised how many people don't seem to realize that. Drmies (talk) 22:07, 15 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Phil, the Indian Education Program is a part of Wikipedia. The point of the project is to have students make contributions TO Wikipedia. I didn't link it properly. There. You can see it now. PJote (talk) 06:29, 17 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:44, 17 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Montenegrin alphabet[edit]

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Hoax. Article about alphabet of nonexistent language. (Without ISO 639-1 standard.) Alex discussion ★ 15:07, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was DELETE. postdlf (talk) 16:56, 16 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

List of memorable races at Talladega Superspeedway[edit]

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This is an indiscriminate list of NASCAR races through the years, and is very subjective as far as what is deemed "memorable". I don't think it's very encyclopedic, and certainly the title isn't one I would be searching for.   ArcAngel   (talk) ) 15:04, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Rlendog (talk) 01:08, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Xanadu (colour)[edit]

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Non-notable name for a shade of greenish-grey. bobrayner (talk) 14:41, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Killing me, dude. I'm induced to help crush one crayon, and now you're encouraging me to help snap through the entire crayola box. Has the guy produced any general argument in favor? --Hobbes Goodyear (talk) 23:16, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect to Anton Zaslavski. causa sui (talk) 18:03, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Autonomy EP[edit]

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Falls WP:NMUSIC and WP:SOURCES, doesn't seem to be notable. Alex discussion ★ 14:39, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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No objections from me. Peridon (talk) 22:05, 16 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus with leave to speedy renominate. Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:46, 17 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Right to Succeed[edit]

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Organisation that does not appear to meet WP:ORG. Apparently created in response to this advert. That doesn't necessarily mean that the organisation isn't notable, and the fact that the article currently contains promotional language is fixable, but I fail to find significant coverage of the organisation in reliable independent sources. bonadea contributions talk 12:45, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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it is a notable organisation , and it shown in Vegas Morning Blend Show --Mohamed Ouda (talk) 11:11, 27 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment Yes, that link is in the article as well, but my opinion is that this doesn't constitute significant coverage. --bonadea contributions talk 13:22, 31 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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here is also another populat site that mention to the foundation reformeducation.net --Mohamed Ouda (talk) 18:14, 4 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was KEEP. While there is some discussion about whether 1E applies, the consensus is that the subject's notability is broader than the single event of the competition.. Drmies (talk) 02:17, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Cameron Mitchell (singer)[edit]

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Contestant from a singing reality show. He doesn't differ from the other eliminated contestants aside from the fact of winning a "fan favorite" quiz which is not nearly enough to call him relevant. I'm going to remind the voters that American Idol, a much more famous and traditional show, doesn't have individual articles for contestants unless they become relevant. Tam001 (talk) 10:54, 2 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. I don't feel that this needs to be re-hashed out again. We'd already reached consensus on the talk page. Also, there's no need to delete this article. That was never on the table before. A redirect is perfectly reasonable so as to not lose all of the time and work that went into fixing this article. Once again, please see the talk page for all of the reasoning behind allowing this article to stay live. Thanks.LoriLee (talk) 11:35, 2 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus.  Sandstein  08:35, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Theramine[edit]

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no indication of WP:notability. Only sources that mention it are companies selling it. noq (talk) 10:18, 2 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Click here to read the full clinical trial from the American Journal of Therapeutics, another unbiased, high-quality source that establishes notability. There are obviously other sources mentioning the subject other than companies selling it. Northamerica1000 (talk) 15:15, 3 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It took less than a minute to find reputable data in a Google search, and along with the link listed above here, there are obviously reliable sources that establish noteworthiness. Northamerica1000 (talk) 15:18, 3 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
You said "Keep - An FDA-regulated drug." Are you saying that all FDA-regulated products are automatically notable? --MelanieN (talk) 16:01, 3 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
RE: Sources: OK, we've now cited the American Journal of Therapeutics article three times - once by me and twice by you. That still appears to be the only reference in a peer-reviewed journal. Your other source is the Clinical Data page from the manufacturer, not an independent source. So we are still left with only one reference from an independent, reliable source - and as I noted above, that's not enough for Wikipedia, which requires multiple such sources. BTW if we apply the WP:ACADEMIC standard, and count the number of times that article has been cited by others to help determine notability - Google Scholar seems to say that it has never been cited a single time by anyone. --MelanieN (talk) 16:07, 3 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I'm trying, I really am. Evaluating this source: it is posted at prnewswire, but it's not a press release; rather it is an article from an e-magazine called NGPharma, written by a profesesor and mentioning various "medical foods". So it is independent. And it does contain three sentences about Theramine. Whether this amounts to either reliable coverage or sufficient coverage is debatable. --MelanieN (talk) 00:08, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
RE: What about this published white paper by Frost & Sullivan, which mentions Theramine a couple of times in its "THE PROMISE OF MEDICAL FOODS Nutritional Management of Disease States" issue: click here .Ggocemac (talk) 11:18, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Published? Published where? The link is to a blog, and the article does not come from a peer-reviewed journal or other WP:Reliable Source. It appears to be a report from a commercial market research company. I guess it serves as evidence that Theramine exists, but we already knew that. We are still a long way from notability. --MelanieN (talk) 23:46, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
RE: This document was published by RAND one of the top most well respected non-profit organizations, and mentions Theramine several times. click here .PharmaKarma (talk) 10:02, 8 September 2011 (UTC) — PharmaKarma (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
Dab page? Are we looking at the same article? --MelanieN (talk) 22:23, 8 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. Mkativerata (talk) 20:03, 17 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

2011 WDF World Cup[edit]

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Future event; crystal-balling; nothing in the sections (empty tables). Could be userfied, I suppose until the event actually happensa and something can be sourced and written about it. Pesky (talk …stalk!) 13:45, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. causa sui (talk) 18:06, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

John Warrillow[edit]

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No notability established. Further, the article creator is John.warrillow (talk · contribs), possible CoI? Avenue X at Cicero (talk) 16:21, 2 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the unsolicited advice. Nevertheless, I was confused (rather, I thought about moving it to User: namespace first) whether the article should be deleted as promotional (like one I nominated at AfD was/is about to be) or userfied. Thus, I posted (rather, voted) my opinion. Avenue X at Cicero (talk) 17:02, 2 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I clearly know what AfD means (for the matter of the fact, vandalism too), and posted it at AfD becuase the article was unencyclopaedic. I thought about userfying the article, but figured that few extra opinions would help. Thus, I brought the article at AfD because it was unencyclopaedic, and suggested userfication. Avenue X at Cicero (talk) 18:07, 2 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
You're not understanding your role. An article should be nominated for deletion if the nominator feels it should be deleted. A nominator does not get to comment "delete" or, for that matter, "userfy rather than delete"; the very fact that the article has been nominated is taken to indicate that the nominator feels deletion is the only option. If there are other options, don't nominate it. Ironholds (talk) 18:27, 2 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I think both of you are partially right. Looong story short... Avenue X can suggest to userfy as this is deleting the article from main space. Userfication is a very grey area, with no AfU and can get messy (remember long story short). However, Avenue should have suggested it in their nomination as a possibility and not after. As Ironholds said, "A nominator does not get to comment 'delete'". It looks like two "votes" to delete. Ironholds, do you know of where it says not to do this practice? I commented the same thing to a nominator on their talk page and got a nasty reply back ("I'm an admin" and "you are nothing") that they will continue to do the practice. Bgwhite (talk) 07:03, 3 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
WP:AFD makes clear that "Articles for deletion (AfD) is where Wikipedians discuss whether an article should be deleted" (not, crucially, userfied, or moved, or anything else) while the userfication essay (I know, only an essay) does not give AfD as an appropriate venue. Which admin was this? I'm tempted to give him a trouting. Ironholds (talk) 08:14, 3 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I'll respond at your talk page so as not to completely threadjack this AfD. Bgwhite (talk) 09:17, 3 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Definitely a columnist for Inc., which is a mass circulation magazine. A DECENT SIZED PILE of articles by him. Writers don't get the same free pass as actors at WP, but this status is worthy of note, if not notable. Carrite (talk) 18:21, 3 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
BIG REVIEW of one of Warrillow's works in the New York Journal of books. Carrite (talk) 18:23, 3 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, it's a blog, but "John Warrillow — The Glenn Beck of Canadian Business?" is a great title, is it not??? Indicative to me that this is a fellow with public figure status, even though I'd never heard of him before. Carrite (talk) 18:27, 3 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Now here's the website of the New York Times CITING WARRILLOW AS A SMALL BUSINESS EXPERT. It's starting to look like to me that this is a recognized expert in his field... Carrite (talk) 18:30, 3 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The New York Enterprise Report FELT WARRILLOW WAS A WORTHY INTERVIEW SUBJECT. Carrite (talk) 18:32, 3 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
And here's a HUFFINGTON POST PIECE on Warrillow's ideas. Carrite (talk) 18:36, 3 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Comment – The topic passes notability guidelines per several additional reliable sources that were found listed above this message by user Carrite. Per the section 'Basic criteria' within 'Wikipedia: Notability (people)' (WP:BIO), “A person is presumed to be notable if he or she has been the subject of multiple published secondary sources which are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject.” "If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability; trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources may not be sufficient to establish notability.” The individual passes WP:BIO due to the available multiple independent sources which demonstrate notability and in the manner of which those sources are not comprised of trivial coverage. Northamerica1000 (talk) 21:48, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect to The Cham-Cham. causa sui (talk) 18:08, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Cass Carnaby[edit]

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This character has only appeared in one episode, perhaps two, with no significant impact. Non-notable fictional character from Thunderbirds Simply south...... eating shoes for 5 years So much for ER 18:31, 2 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per what the nominator stated. not enough to merit an independent article.Bread Ninja (talk) 19:06, 2 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. causa sui (talk) 18:09, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

San Miguel (musician)[edit]

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This person does not appear to meet the notability requirements at WP:MUSICBIO. It does not appear that the band he is in meets the notability requirements, so it is unlikely that he is independently notable as a member of that band. VQuakr (talk) 04:13, 2 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. causa sui (talk) 18:13, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Explosion Fight Night Volume 01[edit]

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another sprawling series of kickboxing results of zero notability failing WP:EVENT. attendances are remarkably low as 500. LibStar (talk) 12:44, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. causa sui (talk) 18:15, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

James Delaney (music)[edit]

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Nominate for deletion I can't find anything to support WP:NOTABILITY Boleyn (talk) 10:27, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep - the discussion centred on whether the sources were sufficient to meet the notability guidelines. In particular, the significance of the interviews was questioned. However, the consensus is that WP:GNG is met. NAC. Bridgeplayer (talk) 15:10, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Amir Taaki[edit]

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I don't think subject matter passes WP:NOTABILITY. Genjix (talk) 09:18, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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We'll work on this if it closes keep here. Thanks for asking and not leaping in yourself; sometimes self-editing is acceptable, but it's a pretty fine line to tread. If this closes keep (and it should) we'll get it fixed up and I'll be happy to clue you in on what the culture is regarding acceptable and unacceptable edits on pages of which one is the subject. No worries. Carrite (talk) 05:01, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Tagesspiegel is a small, political newspaper with a circulation of 120000, if that. As I am European, to explain to American readers, coverage in that paper is analogous to coverage in a very minor libertarian newspaper in a city such as Seattle. Antiselfpromotion (talk) 16:42, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
A long-established newspaper with a circulation of 120,000 (or 148,000 according to our article) is hardly "small" or "very minor". Phil Bridger (talk) 18:26, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
As I read the citations, he was not 'covered' under WP:GNG. He was asked about something topical. Someone consulted by press on e.g. the BP oil spill would not be notable on that basis, even if there had been multiple consultations. The citations establish that he should perhaps be listed in the article on Bitcoin, nothing more. Antiselfpromotion (talk) 01:00, 15 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. Ron Ritzman (talk) 02:18, 17 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Fake denominations of United States currency[edit]

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This is a magnet for trivial cruft and in principle, an almost unmanageable list. Virtually all of the present content is unsourced or uses unreliable sources. Anything really important can simply be mentioned in passing in an article about counterfeiting or American currency. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:52, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Response "Several people have produced $0 bills as a joke, with pictures of their political enemies or other people. The bills usually have "ZERO DOLLARS" marked in capital letters.". —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 05:35, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. causa sui (talk) 18:15, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Breana McDow[edit]

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Non-notable person; fails WP:ENTERTAINER with only one significant role in anything (and the thing happens to be an unreleased project by her fiance). Article was created by the subject or by a relative, and most of the work on it and linking it from other articles was likewise done by a user that appears to have a COI, so it's a vanity page as well. –Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 08:35, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. causa sui (talk) 18:15, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Kellan Tochkin[edit]

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Not yet notable per WP:NHOCKEY: so far only plays in a major junior league, and has not yet received honours in that league. Prod contested without comment by article's creator. Gurt Posh (talk) 08:34, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. causa sui (talk) 18:17, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Fraser Cain[edit]

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The subject of this article fails Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline. I have been unable to find significant coverage about him.

Analysis of the sources in the article:

  1. Meet the Cast – the website of a podcast Cain cohosts, this primary source cannot be considered a third-party reliable source.
  2. Fraser Cain (June 22, 2007). "Arctic Exploring Robots Ready to Take a Dive". Wired. Retrieved 12 July 2010. – written by Cain, this article cannot be considered an independent source.
  3. Cain, Fraser (July 30, 2007), "Space Station Sabotage, Seriously?", Wired, retrieved August 6, 2009 – see above.
  4. Gay, Pamela; Bemrose-Fetter, Rebecca; Bracey, Georgia; Cain, Fraser (October 2007), "Astronomy Cast: Evaluation of a podcast audience's content needs and listening habits", CAP Journal, 1 (1), retrieved August 6, 2009 – an article co-written by the subject and Pamela L. Gay, both of whom cohost Astronomy Cast about Astronomy Cast cannot be used to establish notability.
  5. "158092 Frasercain (2000 WM68)", JPL Small-Body Database Browser, NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory, retrieved August 6, 2009 – the source does not notrivially discuss Fraser Cain.

Verbatim sentence from source:

From Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Universe Today (3rd nomination), Astrocog (talk · contribs) wrote:

I also looked at Fraser Cain's page, and I have to say I think it may be up for deletion in the future, too. There's just not enough to go on. Because somebody has an asteroid named after them is not enough. Asteroids are named by the people who find them, generally amateur astronomers, who name asteroids after friends or people they admire. The amateur who named the asteroid was likely a listener of Cain's podcast. Look, I wish this were not the case, because I like Cain and the work he does. But my personal appreciation of AstronomyCast is not enough to be lax on standards.
— User:Astrocog 14:49, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

A Google News Archive search ("Fraser Cain" -"by Fraser Cain") and a Google Books search return no secondary reliable sources about him.

Because this article fails Wikipedia:Verifiability and Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons, and because the subject fails Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, this page should be deleted. Cunard (talk) 06:45, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect. Rlendog (talk) 00:47, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Katsuhiro Sudo[edit]

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I could only ever find him briefly mentioned in a list. Fails WP:GNG as there's no significant coverage. Author contested prod. Odie5533 (talk) 06:43, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect. I agree with @GiantSnowman, it doesn't qualify for its own article, since it fails WP:GNG, but its founder company is more generalized. --Beastphones (talk) 00:29, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Consensus is that this person does not meet WP:BAND or WP:GNG. Just having been played on several radio stations associated with the performer, even if in multiple markets, is not sufficient to meet WP:BAND. The closest criterion is probably #11: Has been placed in rotation nationally by any major radio network, and consensus is that this person has not been placed in rotation by any major (emphasis added) radio network. Rlendog (talk) 00:55, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Lowell Bekker[edit]

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16-yearold musician who has only self-published his music. No reliable sources can be found. No reliable sources in the article except to say his song was played 22 times on-air. Prod was contested. Bgwhite (talk) 06:19, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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CommentRadio station websites are included as reliable sources. For an article to be valid on Wikipedia, any artist who has received national airplay on mainstream radios is considered eligible, proved with the resourced. Bekker Records does not constitute self-publishing. --Beastphones (talk) 18:13, 10 September 2011 (UTC)— Beastphones (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

Comment Being played on-air 22 times by the local radio station isn't exactly national airplay. There are several radios stations listed, but they are owned by the same company, that uses the same website and the same database of artists.... Hehe, being played on the talk, country and classics sister-stations would be a coup. Bekker Records only artist is Lowell Bekker and is owned by him, that is self-publishing. Bgwhite (talk) 21:44, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It isn't just local radio stations, even if they are all the same company that owns them. Bekker Records is owned by Natasha Bekker, with artists such as Jac Harper and others. I suggest to do your own research before concluding. --Beastphones (talk) 01:25, 11 September 2011 (UTC) — Beastphones (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
From all the radio links list in the article, "He is currently signed to co-founded Bekker Records". He is self-published to an independent record label. Bgwhite (talk) 03:04, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
CO-founded. Not owned. There's enough national airplay to be eligible for a Wikipedia article, you have no case. ;) --Beastphones (talk) 03:18, 11 September 2011 (UTC)— Beastphones (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
What other markets did it play in, and how can we verify that?   — Jeff G. ツ (talk) 03:56, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The power of google! I kid. There are several markets that the single has played in, such as New York, Los Angeles, Atlanta, Dallas, Miami (etc.) Even though, as discussed earlier, they're all owned by the same company, they all are eligible as national airplay. They're on each radio station website, which could be considered a valid source because they are not editable by the public nor the artist. They also are not social networking sites or other useless content. --Beastphones (talk) 03:59, 11 September 2011 (UTC)— Beastphones (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
What does that mean? --Beastphones (talk) 03:56, 11 September 2011 (UTC)— Beastphones (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
"per nomination" -- it means that he accepts the reasoning of the person who nominated the article for deletion. Antandrus (talk) 03:57, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with the nominator's rationale for nominating the article for deletion.   — Jeff G. ツ (talk) 03:58, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]


SOURCES ARE CREDIBLE. Does anyone listen? Why can't we just give the article some time to expand, instead of deleting it? Why don't you focus your energy on searching for more sources and expanding the article? I don't get it. --Beastphones (talk) 04:36, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Agree with Beastphones: Sources are reliable and it does comply with WP:BAND. I think we should stay with the article in question for a certain period of time after which, if no changes are made (or there is nothing else significant to add), it should be considered for incubation or deletion. StephenG (talk) 18:07, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
And I replied on my page. --Beastphones (talk) 00:01, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Rlendog (talk) 00:41, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Focus on the Family (disambiguation)[edit]

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Everything listed here is an affiliate of the main Focus on the Family group. All these should be linked from the main Focus on the Family article, which makes this disambiguation page totally unnecessary. D O N D E groovily Talk to me 06:14, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Mkativerata (talk) 20:01, 17 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

JJJ Heathcote Limited[edit]

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No assertion of notability per WP:COMPANY; no significant coverage online from WP:Reliable sources. Proposed deletion contested by anonymous editor, with edit summary only saying "Altered" on prod removal. Gurt Posh (talk) 05:48, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. v/r - TP 00:49, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Triple-V Foodmasters[edit]

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PROD contested without reason, Unsourced, nothing in the way of GNEWS hits for them, this is the top GHits, Fails WP:GNG. (possible hoax) Mtking (edits) 05:30, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Other stuff existing is not a strong argument. While online sources are not required, it cannot be assumed that offline sources automatically exist either. Nobody has identified any offline sources. For any of the articles in Category:Philippine Basketball League teams, there does not seem to be any independent coverage cited. All of the articles under Category:Philippine Basketball League seasons list only an external link to http://www.philippinebasketball.ph/, which is only a single source (can't tell if it is reliable or based on user contributions.) Philippine Basketball League itself has no citations and only has external links to non-independent sites. The WP:BURDEN to show Triple-V Foodmasters (let alone the other related league articles) has not been met. WP:V says verifiability is what matters, not whether it is actually true. Editors can argue to ignore all rules because they know firsthand that this team is notable, but let's not argue GNG until multiple independent, reliable sources have not been identified.—Bagumba (talk) 18:58, 15 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The Philippine Basketball League has 1,570 articles in Google News, showing that there it passes WP:GNG. As for the article quality, well it is crappy, but having crappy articles is not reason for deletion.
As what I've said earlier, it's pretty inconceivable to declare that there's no GNG for the Philippine Basketball League in the 1990s when there is sufficient coverage now. –HTD 19:13, 15 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
(BTW, the PBL no longer exists. –HTD 19:30, 15 September 2011 (UTC))[reply]
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The result was keep. There is a clear consensus that this article should be kept. Though the page has been substantially improved during the AfD, clearly there is more work to be done. The remaining issues can, however, now be addressed by the normal editing processes. NAC. Bridgeplayer (talk) 00:28, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

University of Denver Ski Team[edit]

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This article was written by a clear COI editor. All the sources are not third party. This article requires a fundamental rewrite - it reads like a team profile, not an encyclopedia article. Very few third-party results in a Google search (at least for the first 4 pages). Jasper Deng (talk) 03:42, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. The page has been dramatically improved during the course of the AfD resulting in a clear consensus to keep this article. NAC. Bridgeplayer (talk) 00:42, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Choker(film)[edit]

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Film article with no sources and nothing to indicate what makes it notable. The Mark of the Beast (talk) 02:30, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Ron Ritzman (talk) 02:23, 17 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Elements in fiction[edit]

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An unreferenced list which could in fact be never ending depending on how you define an element. Parts of this page were up for deletion before, when the article was about "Elementals in Fiction". Deadly∀ssassin 01:26, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Ron Ritzman (talk) 02:24, 17 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Jason Barr[edit]

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Unreliably sourced WP:BLP of a voice actor who fails WP:ENTERTAINER. The only sources are just credit listings. Google searches don't bring up much more, except for a journalist and a DJ who both share his name. BLPPROD was declined because the article did contain some unreliable sources. Pburka (talk) 01:15, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. No arguments for deletion aside from the nominator. Ron Ritzman (talk) 02:26, 17 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ninnishtam Ennishtam 2[edit]

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Going through edits by an editor blocked for Copyvio after another OTRS complaint today, I came across this. No evidence of notability, from what little I could find it was panned. Dougweller (talk) 16:00, 27 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. v/r - TP 00:31, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Miss Teenage California[edit]

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previous afd Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Miss Teenage California resulted in deletion. still no significant coverage outside the pageant itself. i tried to find adequate references to show notability, and i dont think i succeeded. only other significant editor is an SPA that hasnt been able to show notability. Article creator is also an SPA, who recreated this after deletion, and created article for a pageant placer, hence their username.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 04:14, 3 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Additionally there are ten passing mentions of the competition in books. As with the news mentions, it is debateable whether any are indepth enough to be considered "significant coverage". --RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 23:08, 3 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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It fails on notability if no independent third party coverage can be found and put into the article. Stuartyeates (talk) 04:01, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Well, not exactly, The standard is "has received" rather than "in the article".....of course "in the article" is the best way to resolve that. My comment was based on likelyhood of "has received" North8000 (talk) 15:07, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed. Keep. --Beastphones (talk) 00:32, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep" This teen pageant is the most well-known state teen pageant in California for over three decades. Hard to follow this thread. One needs to be a scientist specialized in Wikipedia. As a layman it's impossible to do so.

Miss High School America and Miss Collegiate America website can be found at http://www.americashighschoolpageant.com/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.30.123.196 (talk) 06:04, 16 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Miss Teenage California is featured in the book "Girl Power," published by Grand Central Publishing/1995. The author- Hillary Carlip. An entire chapter is devoted to her serving as a judge for the Miss Teenage California Pageant. Former Miss Teenage California 1994 is featured on the cover. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Laceydog (talk • contribs) 06:17, 16 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Rlendog (talk) 00:35, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Banna banna da Loka[edit]

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Contested PROD. Seems to fail WP:GNG, as I was able to find only one reliable source. The rest were blogs or Youtube videos. Inks.LWC (talk) 08:55, 3 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Rlendog (talk) 00:31, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Toa Payoh Entertainment Centre[edit]

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Does not seem notable Only one hit on G News [43] Darkness Shines (talk) 14:45, 3 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Speedy delete both by Ron Ritzman (talk · contribs) per A9, music recording by redlinked artist and no indication of importance or significance. (non-admin closure) Quasihuman | Talk 12:15, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A Lesson in Dying[edit]

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Not a notable album per WP:NALBUMS. It was nominated for afd before, see WP:Articles for deletion/Dopamine (band). Mattg82 (talk) 15:55, 3 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I am also nominating Auditioning My Escape Plan for the same reason. Mattg82 (talk) 15:58, 3 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Rlendog (talk) 00:27, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Jayesslee[edit]

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No RS are present in article nor were found in search to support notability, which went beyond simple web content (the YouTube channel) and looked for references to the Jance and Sonia Lee themselves. Moogwrench (talk) 16:10, 3 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. There is a clear consensus that there shouldn't be an article. I can't find a consensus for a redirect in light of the two possible targets, but there's nothing to stop any editor turning the redlink into a redirect and debating the target on its talk page. Mkativerata (talk) 20:00, 17 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

All the Stuff and More...[edit]

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This article has been unreferenced since October 2006. It also appears to fail WP:NALBUMS. At best it could be redirected to The Vaselines. Topher385 (talk) 23:30, 3 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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