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I'm thinking this article should be kept. It seems like this would be the most logical place for work on a wii linux port to take place since xbox-linux.org and playstation2-linux.org are used for the same purpose. As for the claim that this is just an ad for a website. The website is non profit and will most likely just be a money pit, there's nothing monetary to gain from more traffic. fintler 15:07, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
I'm thinking that im thinking of agreeing that the article in question should be kept.....(you can say that in response to any question) But more seriously, i do believe this page should be kept, it is informing people of a project to run linux on the wii... and while the project hasnt really commenced yet, it is still something that people would like to get information on, in fact i came here and looked for this page when someone told me about the wii-linux program. and while i am not completely impartial now, i have subsequently joined the website in question. but the wiki article was helpfull in that sense, it led me to it, so im pretty confident in leaving it, ill take the deletion notices down, but i will try and fix up a bit more of the content aswell.Dionysus 15:06, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
I note that there were a lot of bogus keep votes on the afd discussion page which I suspect resulted in the lack of consensus. This article desperately needs to be deleted or renamed to homebrew as it is pretty much devoid of any meaningful content at present. 59.167.63.205 05:20, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
Removed this: " However, due to the outages and general uncertainty about Wiili, most new development about the Wii Remote takes place at the WiiBrew Wiki. "
If you visit both sites you will find that actually wiili.org is well ahead on development and contributions (this includes the translations and forums which wiidev doesn't even have). If some one doesn't agree there's no need to talk about this "uncertainty" as it's clearly trying to hurt one of the websites developing Linux for the Wii.
I posted a (similar) comment to the AfD page. This article is in need of some serious cleanup, as it is completely mixing up two projects, the Wii Linux Project, and WiiLi. Most of what's in this article is actually about the latter (except for the arstechnica/slashdot quotes, which are about the former), but for some reason at some point both were considered the same project and WiiLi/Wiili now redirect to this article's page. The former project has absolutely nothing and is not notable at all IMO (they haven't even had an update since the wii came out, and their wiki is basically empty), while the latter is a well-known (if controversial and of debatable merit) project.
Personally though, I'd just say delete the whole thing and create a single article (say, Wii homebrew) to encompass all of these sites and also including non-linux-specific homebrew (wiibrew, wiire, etc). Currently anyway, there is no Linux on Wii development, since it is impossible to run homebrew code, so the efforts to run homebrew in the first place are far more important (and more general). Stuff like the Wiimote reverse engineering is also not specific to Linux. Once someone comes up with some linux that actually runs on the wii, it might deserve its own page. Marcan 06:11, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
None of the actual web sites are particularly notable yet so having a major chunk of this little article talking about wannabe homebrew web sites squabbling with eachother just has to go.
There is no linux for Wii and it looks to be way off so this whole article makes no sense at present. If someone eventually works out how to load unsigned code there may eventually be an opportunity to load linux but for now it is pretty much only controller hacking so this article should be about Wii homebrew. If the section on linux ever gets longer than "we don't have the vaguest clue how to do it" it might warrant a separate article.
I removed the controversy section but one of the zealots readded it. I leave it to consensus to do the right thing. 59.167.63.205 23:28, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
Should this be included in the wii catagory? Mattyatty 19:01, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
If no one has a better idea or is opposed to this, I will:
Possible alternative: move this page to Wii homebrew, instead of creating a new one (still otherwise doing the above).
The title of this article is not appropriate, and using this to document the various available projects isn't really an option. The whole thing needs cleanup, and the subject doesn't deserve a single article per each and every project/site out there.
As for the "fanboy" section, I think it deserves a mention, although in a more general article like Wii homebrew, it should be much more condensed.
Any comments? Marcan 03:15, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
I've revamped most of the layout, consolidated content and added additional information on some of the projects that have actually delivered results so far. 59.167.56.72 23:21, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
I removed the following text from the "Wii Remote with Javascript" section:
The Wii Remote SDK[3] is in development at HullBreach to streamline the process of integrating Wii Remote button presses into homebrew Wii software using technologies based on Javascript such as AJAX. The Wii Remote SDK has been used in various demonstration software at HullBreachOnline and is available for limited beta testing at this point with the full release coming in June 2007. In addition to detecting button inputs, the SDK's full release will contain classes for 3D rotation math, texture-mapping, graphical effects, gesture input of the Wii Remote pointer, and communication protocols for multiplayer gaming. It is the hope of the developer, Daniel Gump, that the Wii Remote SDK will further develop Wii homebrew development for Opera.
While it may be interesting information in the future, I cannot currently substantiate it from any independent sources. The only mention of Hullbreach itself is the author's promotions. Indeed, I can't substantiate the very existence of such an API, as the referenced page on the Hullbreach site makes no mention of an SDK in development.
Therefore, I have removed the section based on Wikipedia:Notability and Wikipedia:Reliable sources. I would also caution the author against further self-promotion as this is the third time a link to Hullbreach has been removed for non-notability. I would recommend taking a look at Wikipedia:Conflict of interest for more guidance on self-promotion. --Jbanes 01:37, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
Rather than jumping to conclusions on the matter, isn't it better that you ask the source? You say that no such mention of the SDK exists, yet it is in plain print at the source. I believe this to be a conflict of interest as you are the author of the API at WiiCade and perhaps see the Wii Remote SDK as competition. If I am wrong on that assumption, please contact me, and we can discuss both our intentions as I know we would both like the see Wii homebrew advanced. Geekrecon 02:50, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
Jbanes, check out http://hullbreachonline.com/wii/sdk.html and the associated demo and documentation. How do you feel about the readiness of thise website to be mentioned as a source for the Javascript use with the Wii now? I want a consensus before adding it. Geekrecon 23:26, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
It looks like an IP address just added a section about the Mac application, Remote Buddy. While the application itself has won several awards and is probably notable enough for an article of its own, I question whether it belongs here or not. Apparently the company recently added the Wii Remote to their list of supported remote devices. However, I don't see that adding a feature that has been well explored by other (free) drivers does much to advance the state of homebrewing. My inclination is therefore to remove the reference. Does anyone agree? Jbanes 04:13, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
First of all, the grammar was horrible in this section. It looked like an elementary school kid wrote it. Remember that this is an encyclopedia article, and all grammar must be carefully checked for professionalism. I attempted to clean up some of the grammar, but it was too painful to work on in a single sitting.
Second, this section of the article serves very little purpose in adding to the article. It is simply a list of competing websites, all wishing to make themselves sound like the end-all solution after incrementally tacking their plugs to the end of the section. Many should be removed; some can be merged into bullet points or lists.
Geekrecon 23:37, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
I just deleted the broken link to orb.com and the completely unrelated link to Weezo.com. They appeared to have been attempts at promoting unrelated software that just happens to work with the Wii.
Geekrecon 23:36, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
Are there any objections to the merger of the three sections that refer to Web homebrew (Javascript, Flash, Streaming)? Geekrecon 23:36, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
Due to the lack of ojections to the section merger, I went ahead and cleaned it up. I also did extensive rewording to the section to make it sound more like an encyclopedia article and less like a classified ad. If anyone would like to add more information, that's fine with me. I kept some items and removed others for grammatical flow. Another big addition was official documentation from Opera's website, which was greatly lacking in the "classified ad" that was the section. Let me know what you think. Geekrecon 20:41, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
Over at the Chaos Communication Congress there has been some real progress in getting some Wii mode homebrew, this page should be updated, and the vigilance raised since there is probably a lot of new stuff coming out about it the new couple of weeks.--Henke37 (talk) 00:00, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
- Updated, briefly mentioned it and tried to remove references to the previous "impossibility" of Wii homebrew.
[tnd] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 155.245.109.240 (talk) 18:35, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
According to http://www.tehskeen.com/ a savegame exploit for Zelda: Twilight Princess has allowed "4 lines" of homebrew code to be run without use of a modchip. The method reportedly involves creating a modified savegame file with proper cryptographic signatures. "Assuming we don't run into a wall, it should be able to lead to a homebrew loader. I hope. No promises. :)" Hopefully this can make its way onto the main Wii homebrew page as more details and permanent links to the information become available. 206.222.212.218 (talk) 20:20, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
My apologies if this is the wrong place to report this, but it appears that link #10 (http://wii.nintendo.com/wii_faq_internet.jsp) is no longer valid. I'm not sure if there is another source for that information or if it has simply been removed. Phoenix00017 (talk) 03:33, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
The wiiflash.org project should be filed as "wiimote on other platforms", with an input server for the Wiimote and a Flash client. The mention of "ActionScript 3.0" should've made it obvious. 85.177.141.100 (talk) 13:06, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
This is a rather well known trick used to put homebrew on the Wii; it even has a stickied topic on GameFAQs! Why hasn't it been added to this article yet? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.252.43.138 (talk) 19:00, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
I don't know much about editing wikipedia, but Waninkoko (wii.waninkoko.info), the creator of the WAD tools and cIOS, has been working on a backup loader without the need of a modchip. It has been recently leaked and is now to be found all over. I think this should in some way be represented in the article. Discussion of the loader can be found here http://gbatemp.net/index.php?showtopic=104722 and an incomplete faq here http://gbatemp.net/index.php?showtopic=105670 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.75.189.37 (talk) 08:23, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
This page is terribly written in most places, with both historically inaccurate and just plain wrong information. The style is attrocious. There are dozens of glaring omissions. I really don't have the time to correct it myself at the moment, could someone add a banner to this effect (the cleanup banner)? Thanks. 79.72.82.40 (talk) 10:42, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
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I think this page should be merged into Homebrew (video games) -- even though I am a wii homebrew coder myself :P (I am Wack0, softmii dev and i coded WiiSCU). Why ? Because there already is a page about video games homebrew .. there doesn't need to be another one ;) 80.225.189.123 (talk) 14:28, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
Does anyone think that this page needs some images (like of the homebrew channel, SD cards, homebrewing process, etc.)? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.204.118.34 (talk) 19:41, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
Sorry I forgot to sign 209.204.118.34 (talk) 19:45, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
Feels like the Legal section on this page is rushed and doesn't seem to fit in with the rest of the page. It says its legal to use, but doesnt say why it is. " A list of all Homebrew Channel compatible legal applications may be found at WiiBrew, a wiki dedicated for homebrew development on the Wii." Seems odd that thats thrown in there as well. Such uses are completely discouraged by Team Twiizers - Why, What uses, and How? This section could use a lot of work in my mind. --64.113.125.209 (talk) 18:28, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
This article should be deleted becuase of it bad information and that the Homebrew Channel , the only program to succsessfuly hack the wii with out destroying it. the information on this page has nothing to do with this subject, it needs to be corrected in every paragraph, their people trying to advertise their websites to this page should be deleted pernimently.
-the only way it could stay would be fixing and make it more reasonable to keep. which would be alot of work which im not going to do all by myself.
BEWARNED or be DELETED --Blueluke234 (talk) 20:26, 4 April 2011 (UTC)