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For some reason somebody created an article for Team RECK(instead of just adding info to the Team ECK page. It's been nominated for deletion, but I recommended it be merged with Team ECK. Here is the nomination page: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Team RECK. TJ Spyke 05:03, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
Why did he retire? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.111.216.36 (talk • contribs) .
What the fuck, he says he's retired.... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.111.216.36 (talk • contribs) .
Please go to this page and support the move. It's supposed to be Clash of the Champions, but for some reason it's at Clash of Champions. TJ Spyke 01:59, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
While I have faith in my own ability to start articles, I think it'd be helpful if someone took a look at it if they have a moment. I'm also not too sure if this or "ROH Survival of the Fittest" or something else altogether would be the best title for the article. Thanks. Tromboneguy0186 05:10, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
I think it should be called "ROH Survival of the Fittest", i've seen it called that on DVD sites and sounds better than "Survival of the Fittest (wrestling)". It's a good article so far though from my quick glance. TJ Spyke 06:29, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
Cleaned it up considerably, does anyone know how Cabana beat Trent in 04? - It would pretty much finish the article once it has a trivia section (admittedly I have never watched any of either of the events!) Kingfisherswift 19:21, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
I appreciate the help, looks nice. Cabana won the match with a pinning combination that Mark Nulty called a "Peretti special," though I've never heard that before or since. It involves a leg and arm hook and forward roll. It's tough to describe without seeing it. Danielson's winning hold over Evans (and Aries) similarly defies description. It sorta looks like a Boston Crab, but instead of holding them by the knees he held them by the midsection. Tromboneguy0186 22:20, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
OK, I'll leave it out for now. Kingfisherswift 11:49, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
Shouldn't the preformers on the WWE Roster/PPV's have nicknames as the TNA preformers on there roster/PPV's? BionicWilliam 05:59, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
I get that but should we change the WWE Roster & ROH Roster page to include nicknames? BionicWilliam 23:42, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
I don't think they should be include in the results page. In their articles, sure. Not in PPV results though. Also, we don't know if Shannon Moore will have a nickname(TNA trademarked "Prince of Punk" so WWE can't use that). TJ Spyke 23:50, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks, I skipped past that. I have no problem with nickames being on their bio pages, or maybe other articles, just not on a PPV results page. TJ Spyke 00:35, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
Was tagged for speedy - she seems to have won three titles according to the article. KillerChihuahua?!? 18:58, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
Go here: [1]. The basic problem is: the constant reverting of a comedy relief section. Comedy relief isn't a big part of jobbing, but WillC somehow thinks it is (just because of a few past comedy jobbing, plus the recent ECW jobbers: Nacho Libre, Zombie, etc). I can understand a small note about comedy in the gimmicks section, but not a full on section for something that small (and not very notable either). RobJ1981 20:33, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
I have been talking to Tj Spyke This is a suggestion You might want to have summaries of the matches at the event they occured. People would like to have more info inragards of the matches. I have been watching wrestling for over 30 years. Been to matches and know somw wrestlers as well. I have been surfing the dirt sheets for over 10 years. So please treat me with respect and blow a gasket(3bulletproof16) — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheTruth2 (talk • contribs)
Bullet relaz. You don't have ownership. Also this was aimed to improve the site as well in attaining your goals.
Also Bullet has been reported as well.--TheTruth2 22:21, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
Bullet you had 5 or 6 the previous day.
To everyone else I have not done anything against you. Bullet is the only one with an issue. WIth that being said. I apologize to you and not Bullet. As I stated above I have alot of experience in wrestling that I could add. Give me a chance.--TheTruth2 22:26, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
We really need some continuity on this, I just went through the TNA roster page and removed several of the nicknames since TNA didn't list them at the top of their profile pages. I think we need to see what their full ring name is listed as on their article page here (Some nicknames are part of ring names, some aren't), and also see what TNA and WWE list their full ring names as, and see how they are introduced when they come to the ring. If there is a discrepency, we can descuss it on the individual roster talk pages or that wrestler's talk page. --Dubhagan 01:17, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
WCW Disney tapings and Rec.sport.pro-wrestling both need third party participation due to edit warring. Johntex is looking at Rec.sport.pro-wrestling at the moment. Tyrenius 02:11, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
I'm thinking about getting an edit bot to allow us to change Spinebuster slam to simple Spinebuster. The bots needed because the number of wrestling pages that link to spinebuster slam are huge due to how common the move is, however on every wrestling page it is linked to as simply spinebuster. Does anyone know how we go about getting a bot to edit Spinebuster slam to Spinebuster? --- Lid 07:17, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
User:Sivazh has put in the section header "In wrestling" to many articles on wrestlers. I saw Jtalledo revert one edit based on the the fact this section header isn't appropriate on Wikipedia and Paulley left him a note to not do it to articles that don't need it, but he's still doing it. Even as I speak, he's still doing it. He's done it to hundreds of articles, and I think they all have to be reverted. ErikNY 22:10, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
I have looked but have not found the date that Rob Van Dam won the WWE belt one night on RAW from the Undertaker...it must have been 2002?? It is a similar situation to when Benoit/Jericho and others have won the belt. The decision was quashed, the match restarted. It would be nice to have it in the List of WWE Champions for it to be complete.(Halbared 13:05, 28 July 2006 (UTC))
After getting into some trouble on the SNME results page I was pointed to the fact that we now have an official format for show results. When was this one (with all the bullets) decided on over this one? Was there a discussion on it? The one with all the bullets just looks sloppy, in my opinion. Bdve 20:19, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
Actually, that looks like you just suggested it. I didn't see any consenus to it. The one we currently have looks much better IMO. TJ Spyke 00:02, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
I noticed in the cleanup section that there was a suggestion to "Add commas to lists in statsboxes", I think that they look fairly awkward and maybe they should be reconsidered. Personally, I think there should only be a comma if the name takes more than one line. Thoughts? --Quotes22 23:50, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
I do not think that the commas should be there.(Halbared 11:21, 7 August 2006 (UTC))
Here is the article: [2]. As you can see, the name of the article is a bit long. John doesn't look to be too notable either. What does everyone think? RobJ1981 13:07, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
In my opinion it's not very notable. I've been in a recent edit war, because a person keeps removing my prod deletion notice...and won't realize it's NOT very notable and really doesn't need an article. RobJ1981 13:46, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
Is there one?--Unopeneddoor 23:59, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
This article has become a really good one. I think it should be listed amoung the good wrestling articles.
I recently expanded on the Magnum Tokyo entry and re-formatted it to adhere to the guidelines provided in this project's main page. However, not having had much exposure to his Japanese work other than a handful of Dragon Gate matches, the best I could do was provide a summary of his work in WCW (which was very brief and only lasted a few months in 1998) and therefore I've left the disclaimer stating that the article was a stub. Since he hasn't seemed to be active in North America since '98, finding information about him through Google turned up very little, and the official Dragon Gate website unfortunately doesn't have an English version that I could find.. Is there anyone out there familiar enough with his work in Japan (in particular Dragon Gate) that could expand on what's already there? Additionally, if you have a picture to upload that you're certain would meet Wikipedia guidelines concerning copyright and fair usage, feel free to do so.--Deputy Marshall 14:04, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
I came across this page when removing several edits to numerous movelists relating to a Draven Cage. Near as I can tell the federation is real (http://members.lycos.co.uk/lwleague/news.html) but notability seems to be non-existant. I just want to double check here before putting it up for AfD. --- Lid 15:50, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
Does anyone know where I can find an official copy (perferably recent) of the National Wrestling Alliance bylaws, rules, and regulations? I think that they would be a great addition to the wiki. - NickSentowski 17:14, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
THE NATIONAL WRESTLING ALLIANCE OFFICIAL RULES OF PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING
A BRIEF HISTORY OF WRESTLING
Wrestling is undoubtedly the oldest competitive sport known to man. Cave drawings indicate that it was one of the first forms of non-lethal athletic activity practiced by early European civilizations. Perhaps the earliest written account of wrestling is found in Genesis 32:24, when Jacob wrestled with an angel of the lord. Bible historians date this passage at about 1700 B.C. Excavations in Iraq revealed a bronze statuette of wrestlers, which archeologists have dated at 2600 B.C. Similar findings elsewhere in the Middle East are thought to be as much as 5000 years old. The ancient Greeks presumably learned the art and science of wrestling from the Egyptians, who depicted the sport with murals in the elaborate tombs of their pharaohs. Plato and Socrates, the renowned Greek philosophers, participated in wrestling. And of course, wrestling really came into its own as part of the Greek Olympics. Roman gladiators, who fought to he death for the amusement of decadent emperors and throngs of debauched spectators, included wrestling in their "games". Sumo wrestling appeared in Japan during the First Century B.C. In 828 A.D., Emperor Buntoku decreed that his two sons would wrestle to decide who would become heir to the throne. In his own time, King Henry VIII of England was as renowned for his wrestling skill as he has since become known for his treatment of estranged wives, and small wonder wrestling had come to be regarded as a skill worthy of knights, noblemen and even kings during the Middle Ages. A number of American Presidents, beginning with George Washington, were known as skilled wrestlers. Presidents Lincoln, Taft and Teddy Roosevelt were well respected for their skills in this ancient sport. In 1880, William Muldoon became the first American wrestling champion and later became known as the Father of American Wrestling. Muldoon became the first Chairman of the New York State Athletic Commission. Shortly after the turn of the century, a U.S. champion known as Frank Gotch defeated a European champion named George Hackenschmidt to become the first generally-recognized heavyweight wrestling champion of the world. Gotch held the title twice and retired undefeated in 1913. The National Wrestling Alliance is by far the largest and most respected governing body in professional wrestling today. It traces the line of its current heavyweight champion back to Frank Gotch, the sport's first world champion. The NWA and it's affiliated promoters have done a great deal to support and encourage the development of amateur wrestling in the United States and elsewhere in the world, and has likewise endeavored to maintain the highest possible standards of athletic competition in the professional ranks.
Section I: General Rules
1. Definition. A wrestling match shall consist of a physical confrontation between two athletes or teams of athletes who have demonstrated a proficiency in the skills contiguous to the sports, and are in sound physical condition. Wrestlers shall be of good moral character and shall not be fugitives from justice.
(a) A wrestling match shall be held in a "ring" constructed in accordance with specific NWA standards, as available upon request to any persons having been approved for the promotion of NWA-sanctioned wrestling events.
(b) The object of a wrestling match shall be to gain a victory over one's opponent through the use of a legal hold or series of legal holds and maneuvers, either by scoring a pin fall or by forcing an opponent to concede defeat. To be pinned, both of a contestant's shoulders must be held to the mat for three consecutive seconds, as witnessed and counted off by a referee in charge of the event.
2. Legal holds. Holds and maneuvers which are allowed in AAU, NCAA, and Olympic wrestling competition shall be permitted in professional matches. Additional holds which are not permitted in amateur competition, but which involve the use of hands, arms, feet, and legs in grasping or manipulating an opponent in such a way as to gain a position of advantage in a manner consistent with the basic objectives of the sport as outlined herein, shall be permitted, provided they are not specifically excluded herein or by subsequent NWA directive.
3. Holds and conduct not allowed. Certain holds and types of behavior which are inherently unsportsmanlike or for other reasons not in the best interests of professional wrestling will not be allowed. Wrestlers failing to adhere to these restrictions will be subject to disqualification and/or subsequent disciplinary action. (a) The use of a closed fist is not permitted. A referee is authorized to disqualify a wrestler for the use of a closed fist after appropriate warnings. (b) Kicking with the point of the toe or heel is not permitted. Kicking with the flat of the foot or the instep is allowed. © The use of karate or kung-fu thrusts or kicks is prohibited. Certain non-lethal judo moves, which may resemble these prohibited maneuvers, are allowed. Referees are expected to exercise extreme care in differentiating between legal and non-legal martial arts tactics. (d) Pulling of hair, mask, tights, or athletic gear of any sort to gain an advantage is prohibited. (e) Eye-gouging or other efforts which would tend to impair an opponent's vision will not be allowed. (f) Biting any part of an opponent's anatomy is strictly prohibited. (g) Bending an opponent's individual fingers in such a way as to bring about a possible fracture or sprain is not allowed. (h) Choke holds are prohibited, as is any use of the ring ropes for the purpose of impairing an opponent's breathing. (i) Any wrestler who deliberately strikes his opponent in the privates is subject to immediate disqualification. (j) Taping of knuckles, wrists or any part of the hand, except as certified to be necessary by a physician, is prohibited. (k) Any wrestler using a non-regulation object as a weapon against his opponent is subject to immediate disqualification. (l) Any abuse, physical or verbal, of an official shall be grounds for disqualification and possible fine or suspension. (m) Any interference in a match on the part of an individual who is not a designated participant shall be grounds for the disqualification of the contestant(s) who, in the referee's judgment, was being aided by said interference. This stipulation shall apply to managers and seconds, as well as to any other parties who illegally involve themselves in a wrestling match. (n) Attacking an opponent before the opening bell, after the final bell, or between falls, will be grounds for disciplinary action at the discretion of the referee or reviewing officials. (o) Deliberately throwing an opponent over the top ring rope is grounds for immediate disqualification. The exception to this is the battle royal. Battle royals may be held only with specific NWA authorization. (p) The use of any hold or maneuver not specified herein, but which in the judgment of the NWA President and/or Board of Directors is especially dangerous to participants in NWA-sanctioned wrestling events may, at any time, be prohibited by a directive from NWA headquarters.
4. Additional standards of conduct. Unless otherwise stated herein, a referee will disqualify a wrestler when an infraction for which said wrestler has been warned twice shall be committed for a third time; however, a referee shall have the discretion to disqualify a participant at any time said referee feels that a deliberate infraction of the rules would otherwise alter the outcome of a match in favor of the wrestler committing the infraction. (a) A hold shall not be allowed if either contestant is in physical contact with the ropes or if any part of either contestant's body is outside the vertical plane of the ring ropes. The referee will instruct the wrestler applying the hold in such cases to desist, and the wrestler applying the hold will have five seconds as counted off by the referee in which to comply. (b) In the event that a wrestler is thrown outside the ring, he shall have ten seconds as counted off by the referee in which to re-enter the ring. The count shall continue only while the remaining contestant is in a neutral corner, making no effort to impede his opponent's return to the ring. If the referee's count is interrupted at any point, it shall be resumed at its beginning, not at the point of interruption, and only after order has been restored. © The above ten-count procedure shall likewise apply in the case of a wrestler who is in or approximately in a prone position on the canvas without being in physical contact with his opponent and who, in the judgment of the referee, is temporarily unable to wrestle. (d) Any wrestler taking a full ten-count in the above circumstances shall be declared the loser of the match.
5. Tag team matches. Wrestlers wishing to participate in tag team matches may do so in accordance with the customary contractual procedures. (a) In the event one member of a tag team is unable to wrestle or fails to make an appearance, his partner has the option of finding a substitute, forfeiting the match, or facing two opponents by himself. (b) Only one member of a tag team is to be in the ring at any given time while the match is in progress. A five second transition period is permitted to facilitate wrestlers on a team exchanging places in the ring. © Wrestlers on the same team can exchange places in the ring only after a legal tag-out has been accomplished. This must consist of a wrestler inside the perimeter of the ring ropes using one of his hands to make physical contact with one of the hands of his partner outside the perimeter of the ring ropes, who shall be in a standing position, within arm's length of his own corner, with both feet on the mat and one arm over the tope rope. A tag-out shall not be allowed if the wrestler on the outside of the ring is not appropriately positioned. (d) The referee may, at his discretion, disallow any tag-out which he does not see or which he has reason to believe did not occur in accordance with the above stipulations. (e) Tag teams may consist of two, three, or more men within a reasonable number, and provided their opposing teams have an equal number of participants, except in the case of "handicap" matches, wherein the numerically disadvantaged team or individual must sign an appropriate waiver of indemnity. A similar waiver must be signed in the case of "Texas tornado" matches, in which tag team procedures are in part suspended, and in "elimination" matches, in which the makeup of teams may not remain constant throughout the match. (f) Unless otherwise contractually stipulated, a tag team event may be won (or a fall therein may be won) by defeating only one member of the opposing team.
6. Weight divisions. Wrestlers shall be matched with as little discrepancy in relative weights as is feasible, however wrestlers wishing to compete in the unlimited or heavyweight division are expected to accept matches with opponents of any weight. (a) The weight limit for the junior heavyweight division shall be 230 pounds. (b) Other weight divisions, where applicable, shall be designated in accordance with the rules of Olympic freestyle competition.
7. Women's matches. Women athletes participating in NWA-sanctioned wrestling events will be subject to the same rules and regulations as male wrestlers except as stipulated herein. (a) Women wrestlers shall in no case be paid either more or less than male athletes involved in matches which could reasonably be construed as being of similar value to the promoter. (b) Women wrestler will not be matched against male opponents. "Mixed" tag team matches will be conducted in such a manner that female participants are not required to wrestle directly against male opponents.
8. Non-sanctioned events. The National Wrestling Alliance does not sanction cage matches, chain matches, bullrope matches, strap matches, "lights out" matches, taped fist matches, Texas or other designated "death" matches, or any other events in which the rules and regulations designated herein are not fully enforced. Wrestlers participating in non-sanctioned events do so without recourse to the NWA in the event of an injury.
Section II: Promoters & Officials
1. Qualifications for promoters. Persons authorized to promote NWA-sanctioned wrestling events must be responsible citizens of the nation in which they do business, or non-resident businesspersons who are in compliance with the standards set forth for doing business by local authorities. They must be persons of good reputation and good moral character, and shall not be fugitives from justice. (a) The above standards shall likewise apply to the officers of partnerships and corporations promoting NWA-sanctioned wrestling. (b) Any and all records and papers, financial, contractual or otherwise, relevant to the promotion of NWA-sanctioned wrestling events, shall be subject to inspection by any properly-designated officer of the NWA. Said officers will not release the information contained therein to the press or to the public except in the case of significant irregularity as determined by review of the NWA Board of Directors. © Promoters shall assume responsibility for obtaining the services of qualified wrestlers and officials, and for securing buildings or outdoor arenas adequate for the purpose of holding wrestling events. (d)It shall be the promoter's responsibility to ensure that the following are provided: dressing rooms, showers, locker and toilet facilities. At least two dressing rooms shall be available at each event. If both men and women wrestlers are on hand, separate facilities for opponents of both sexes shall be available. Unauthorized persons are not permitted in the dressing room areas. (e) Promoters shall be responsible for obtaining a regulation wrestling ring and personnel to ensure proper set-up and tear-down. (f) Promoters will secure adequate liability insurance with a reputable firm for all wrestling events under NWA sanction. (g) Promoters may, if they choose, to initiate contracts with individual wrestlers or managers, or this function may be delegated to a matchmaker. In the latter case said matchmaker shall likewise be a person of good reputation, good moral character, and shall not be a fugitive from justice. (h) Promoters shall be responsible for publicizing wrestling events in a tasteful manner, and for avoiding any false or misleading advertising. (i) Promoters are responsible for paying wrestlers, officials and other personnel involved in wrestling events in accordance with existing contracts or verbal agreements. (j) Promoters will report any misbehavior on the part of athletes or other significant irregularities in writing to NWA headquarters within five working days of any such incident. Promoters are advised to make preliminary telephone reports in cases wherein prompt official action would be advisable.
2. Qualifications for referees. Referees shall be persons who are thoroughly familiar with the rules and regulations pertaining to professional wrestling, and competent to see that these rules and regulations are properly enforced. Referees shall be persons of good moral character and shall not be fugitives from justice. (a) Referees shall be approved by an official of the NWA before being authorized to officiate at any NWA-sanctioned wrestling event. (b) The referee shall be in complete charge of any wrestling match to which he is assigned. He may disqualify an individual wrestler or team for infractions of the rules as outlined herein. He may, at his discretion, stop a match to prevent serious injury to a participant. © Prior to each match, the referee shall determine that the contestants are not concealing any unauthorized gear ("foreign objects") and that they do no have their bodies coated with excessive oil or grease which would make it unduly difficult for an opponent to maintain a legal hold. Referees conduction pre-bout checks of wrestlers of the opposite sex are cautioned to use proper discretion in their attempts to locate possible concealed objects.
3. Qualifications for timekeepers. Timekeepers shall be persons who are familiar with the rules and regulations of professional wrestling as applicable to this specialized function. Timekeepers shall be persons of good moral character and shall not be fugitives from justice. (a) Timekeepers shall be approved by an officer of the NWA before being assigned to any NWA-sanctioned event. (b) The timekeeper assigned to an NWA-sanctioned wrestling event shall be in possession of an accurate timepiece, which he shall use to determine the assigned duration of each individual match. © The timekeeper shall signal the beginning of a match or fall by ringing a bell at the referee's instruction or at the end of a designated rest period. The timekeeper shall likewise signal the end of a fall of a match when so instructed by the referee, or when the designated time limit has elapsed. (d) The timekeeper assigned to a match shall keep the referee and contestants apprised of elapsed time and/or time remaining at regular intervals, or when requested by the referee.
4. Vested interests. No official shall have any vested interest in the outcome of a match to which he is assigned.
Section III: Championships
1. Definition. A championship confers upon an individual wrestler or team of wrestlers official recognition that this individual or team has been established through officially-sanctioned competition as being the best in whatever category, weight division or geographical area is designated by the championship in question.
2. Specific championships recognized by the NWA. The National Wrestling Alliance recognizes a number of international, national, regional, state and local championships. The following is a partial list of these. (a) The world heavyweight championship. This is recognized throughout NWA jurisdiction and elsewhere as the apogee of achievement in the unlimited or heavyweight division. (b) The world junior heavyweight championship. This is recognized throughout NWA jurisdiction and elsewhere as the apogee of achievement among wrestlers able to compete within a 230 pound weight limit. © World championships may also be recognized by the NWA for other weight divisions at such time as sufficient activity in these weight divisions merits recognition of a world champion. (d) National championships for nations under NWA jurisdiction. (e) Regional, state and local championships, provincial championships, and other such championships as may pertain to reasonable geographic divisions of broader areas under NWA jurisdiction.
3. Championships not recognized. The NWA does not recognize "brass knuckles" championships or any other championships based on competition which does not comply with the rules and regulations of the National Wrestling Alliance as outlined herein.
4. Rankings. The National Wrestling Alliance may, at designated intervals, publish official rankings of contenders for any recognized championship, upon concurrence of two-thirds of the members of the NWA Board of Directors at any regularly-scheduled meeting at which a valid quorum is present.
5. Additional rules pertaining to championships. The following stipulations apply to the recognition and transfer of championships by the National Wrestling Alliance except in cases wherein exceptions are specified in valid contracts acceptable to the NWA. (a) Trophies or belts may be awarded in recognition of championships, but these do not in themselves constitute such recognition except as won or lost in compliance with the rules of wrestling as set forth herein. (b) Championships cannot change hands in the event of a draw or if a challenger wins only one fall (even though it is the only fall scored) in a 2 out of 3 fall match. © Championships cannot change hands on a disqualification ruling unless so stipulated in the contract. (d) Championships shall be defended at least once every thirty days unless the NWA authorizes an exception for good cause. (e) When a championship vacancy occurs, the NWA may designate a new champion on the basis of meritorious qualifications, order a match to determine a new champion, or order a tournament to determine a new champion.
Section IV: Additional Standards of Conduct
1. Gambling. Absolutely no gambling on the outcome of wrestling matches on the part of wrestlers, promoters, managers, seconds, officials or arena employees is permitted, either at the arena or at outside locations. (a) Promoters are expected to take reasonable measures to discourage patrons from gambling on the outcome of matches while attending wrestling events. (b) The above shall not be construed as being applicable to gambling at licensed tracks and casinos, or to private wagering except upon NWA-sanctioned wrestling events.
2. Bribes. The acceptance of bribes in exchange for unethical practices on the part of wrestlers, officials or other persons subject to these regulations, is strictly prohibited. (a) Wrestlers accepting bribes in exchange for "throwing" matches shall be subject to find and/or fines not to exceed $10,000, suspension for one year, or both, for the first offense, except in the case of championship matches.* (b) Officials accepting bribes in exchange for favoring one contestant over another in matches to which they are assigned are subject to revocation of status and/or other disciplinary action as deemed appropriate by the NWA Review Board. © Failure of above designated persons promptly to report a bribe offer to an officer of the NWA shall be construed as complicity in the offense, whether or not the bribe is accepted.
Hope that helps, Rob Brazier (robbrazier123@gmail.com)
I reverted these edits since it just relist info from List of WWE pay-per-view events. BionicWilliam 03:32, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
I can you help settle a dispute? My Source for here name being Torrie Anne Gruner {née Wilson) is [4] The Anon has produce no source and trying to pass them self as Mrs. Gruner herself. BionicWilliam 03:32, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
On Dave Finlay there is a user, User:Mikedk9109, who keeps changing Finlay's finisher from Air Raid Crash to Kryptonite Krunch. His argument is that it's under the KK banner and that the ARC name is applied incorrectly as part of the paragraph states the name ARC is used incorrectly when referring to a KK. The problem is Finlay DOES perform an ARC as it goes across the back from one shoulder to opposte arm instead of straight down to the same arm. I've tried to explain this repeatedly but he keeps reverting me, even when I list examples of other articles that link to KK as ARC because they aren't KK, they're ARC's.
The CM Punk page has recently suffered a similar problem with users changing the Anaconda Vice name to variations of "Guillotine Choke/Key Lock Combo" which is the name listed on the WWE.com website, which is an unbelievable non-reliable website for move names but as of right now no one has changed it to that again and Anaconda Vice is the name he's used for the last 3 years.
Just bringing these to peoples attention and hoping for some aid. --- Lid 09:51, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
His page name needs changing, as that name was his OVW ring name, but not his current SD! name. Not sure what to though. His real name appears to be Aaron Haddad, but I'm not 100% sure on that. His current SD! name, as you will see tonight, is Idol Stevens. We could also change it back to Aaron Stevens (wrestler). Thoughts? --James Duggan 21:30, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
I think until Aaron Haddad can be veravide it should be at Aaron Stevens (Wrester) BionicWilliam 22:39, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
Everywhere I've looked (included the page cited in the Wikipedia article) says his real name is Aaron Stevens. What's the source for Aaron Haddad being his real name? --Deputy Marshall 23:02, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
I know the IMDb article for Beth Phoenix says his real name is Aaron Haddad, but that's the only place I've seen it. I'm not the one that put that as his real name anyway, someone else did. --James Duggan 00:24, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
I've moved it back to Aaron Stevens (wrestler) since that's what everyone here seems to agree with. --James Duggan 00:34, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
A new user, User:WWEFan1337, has "moved" List of professional wrestling throws to Professional wrestling throws. I say "moved" because the history shows it's not a move but rather a copy paste of the information thus losing the history. If you will recall I posted a topic a while back on this due to that nearly all pages link to Professional wrestling throws rather than List of and asked if we should move the page. If I remember correctly at the time we reached no consensus so my question right now is do we move the page back or do we get an admin to move the history of List of to Professional? --- Lid 19:08, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
There are many people on Wikipedia who aren't wrestling fans and have been deleting wrestling articles because there aren't enough wrestling fans to outvote them. If you want proof, read the comments on McMahonism's deletion page from non-fans and look at what they did to WWE Development Wrestler Victoria Crawford's page. While I agree McMahonism was unworthy of an article, the fact is that there are people on Wikipedia who vote for wrestling articles to be deleted solely because "wrestling is fake." I think we'd be able to create a better Wrestling Encyclopedia by forking this Wikiproject into a Wiki. I personally have a web hosting account with enough bandwidth for the time being and could set it up. Since we'd make the policies of the Wiki, not other people, we'd be able to do alot more with the articles. There's people here on Wikipedia who believe that a wrestler has to be a big name before he/she warrants an article. I feel there are too many people on Wikipedia that are not wrestling fans but are marking wrestler articles up for deletion. Recently, the wrestling business sim Extreme Warfare, which is very popular and well-known among most of the online wrestling fans, has been targeted for deletion. While every attempt to get that article deleted failed, people keep trying. I am concerned about this problem and we either need to vote in a policy to prevent this from continuing, vote down all the attempts, or fork off from Wikipedia. I'm for forking off of Wikipedia because I think we won't be able to make a decent guide to wrestling on Wikipedia because of the anti-Wrestling people. Could you imagine what would happen if somebody attempted to delete a Pro Football player article? That wouldn't happen to the same extent with wrestling because we're almost always too busy or just too few in number to keep wrestling articles on Wikipedia. 205.166.61.142 13:16, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
I left the original unregistered comment that started this section earlier. I'll set up a Wrestling Wiki and post a link here later for those reading this discussion. I don't really have the Wiki Code knowledge to do most of the stuff people do. For example, I'm certain I won't be able to emulate the infoboxes myself. If there is significant editing to get it going, maybe it can become a successful more in-depth Wrestling Wiki. I personally would love to be able to read years worth of kayfabe events on a Wiki. The current results websites require alot of time to navigate through their result archives. I think anybody who's attempted it on some of the sites would agree. Either you can get match results only or you can make about 20 clicks or more just to see how a storyline played out. I agree that weekly references to kayfabe aren't of general interest, but there are fans who probably could use the information. After all, this WikiProject is used at times in the Extreme Warfare community to get information about wrestling. It leaves alot to be desired though, causing low quality data to be released for those games, particularly in the earlier periods. You can't find any scenarios prior to 1983 for any of that series because there isn't sufficient information easily available. I do think the Source citation is important here on Wikipedia, but it does hinder the effort to build deep articles and could be de-emphasized on a Wrestling Wiki. Brad Blaze 03:52, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
I think someone made a wrestling wiki, I just forget the name of it. --James Duggan 04:57, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
Should we merge the article on King Booker's Court into Booker Huffman? It looks like their alliance was loose at best and since Regal and Finlay seem to have parted ways, it doesn't look like they will ever be a full time stable. --Jtalledo (talk) 19:31, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
I agree it should be merged into the regular page for Booker. The Court failed to last much longer than the Lashley feud and that was ages ago by this point. Brad Blaze 03:53, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
The page has a list of all the results ever (from the looks of it). It looks sloppy and in my opinion, not needed. I can understand a list of highlights or something of that sort, but not a whole list. What does everyone else think? RobJ1981 04:28, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
User:Tim Long is convinced that IMDb listing him as "Jamie Howard" makes it absolute gospel that that's his birth name, when several different sources vary between Howard and Gibson, with most actually favoring Gibson. Just a heads-up. Tromboneguy0186 06:53, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
I'm kinda confused. Where are we supposed to place awards like PWI and RSPW awards? Some articles have them in the same section as championships and others have them in their own section. - Bdve 15:44, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
I am once again seeing a tendency in articles to cover kayfabed storylines & angles in minute detail, causing many of the individual wrestler biographies to swell in size and become unencyclopedic messes. At this juncture, I would propose that most of these biographies be scaled back considerably in scope, and that links to wrestler profiles on obsessedwithwrestling.com be provided as external links for people actually interested in such material. - Chadbryant 10:42, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
In reference to the entry on the 1990s wrestling boom which was on the agenda for articles to be created, I've been working on the edit on and off for a couple days now after what it was before (wrought with spelling/grammatical errors and pretty short). Let me know what you guys think, and if there's anything else that should be on there (or shouldn't be on there). --Deputy Marshall 15:55, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
I looks fine, but really I don't think Wrestlemania X7 was the end of the Attitude Era, Wrestlemania X8 was. I can name 10 good reasons why also. Just let me know if you want me to list them. Trust me, these are extremely good reasons too. You can't say just because of the buyout and a heel turn the era ended. The Attitude Era was way more than just that. LC6 12:17 10 August 2006 (UTC)
Shouldn't this article be apart of the History of professional wrestling article. Plus I really belive that the History of professional wrestling article should be reviewed for not notable changes. BionicWilliam 21:49, 10 August 2006 (UTC) BionicWilliam 21:49, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
The Criticisms of the Brand Extension section needed to be revised or removed, since it's is not NPOV, plus their no source to this section. Most of it is Opinon. BionicWilliam 23:55, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
It's also inaccurate. There were NEVER plans for WCW to take over RAW's timeslot, I remember that the plan was to give them the Saturday night timeslot(which was WWF Excess at the time). TJ Spyke 03:29, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
Am I mistaken or are these sets of moves the same moves with different names? DDT and facebuster seem the same and brainbuster and IDVD seem the same. --- Lid 03:15, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
Can somebody in the UK(or someone familiar with it) tell me if Sky Movies + and Sky Sports are PPV channels over there? This has to do with WWF/E. I was under the impression that the first UK only PPV was One Night Only in 1997. TJ Spyke 05:06, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
Well, You have to pay extra to subscribe to sports/movies, plus you have to have a sky subscription, however you don't have to pay extra for the PPV's as with sky box office. Advantages being the big four, Vengeance, J-Day, Armaggeddon are the only ones we have to pay for. God Bless Great Britain! Kingfisherswift 11:23, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
I thought so. Thanks guys. TJ Spyke 20:20, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
Hi, been on Wikipedia for a while now and edit a few stuff but haven't really touched the wrestling articles. I like how they are set up but feel that there should really be a distinction between "real world" and "kayfabe" events. A lot of the wrestling articles do not make that distinction at all, making it look rather a mess. For example most wrestling articles mention how the wrestlers got into wrestling, then proceed to describe all storylines they were involved in as if it was real. I noticed that Jackie Gayda has a "kayfabe" notice like this:
((Kayfabe disclaimer))
Maybe this should be applied to ALL of the wrestling bio articles?
Good work though, love reading it all, especially as I completely missed the peak of the "Attitude" and "Monday Night Wars" era Smoothy 13:23, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
Is it definite that the pure title is now a thing of the past? Are we sure that Danielson isn't going to just hold both and defend them separately? Tromboneguy0186 21:22, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
There's an anon. user who keeps changing his height to 6'9", even though all sources provided say 6'7". I was wondering if I could have some help dealing with him. --James Duggan 23:40, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
As per Unsanctioned move/copy paste a move vote has been initiated by myself on List of professional wrestling throws to Professional wrestling throws at Talk:List of professional wrestling throws. Your votes and opinions would be appreciated. --- Lid 00:16, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
This article is up for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of TNA X Division Champions by age. I personally think the article should stay and think the people voting against it are not wrestling fans and that's why they are voting to delete. I voted to keep it, but I am the only one so far. TJ Spyke 21:01, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
Hey everyone. Is there any interest in getting pages started up for professional wrestling in the United States and professional wrestling in Canada similar to professional wrestling in Australia and professional wrestling in the United Kingdom? Normy132 08:17, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
Lately, there have been quite a few anons removing the word "heavyweight" from the title's page, the defenses page, and Bryan Danielson's page. I left comment tags at the top of all three asking them not to do this, since [5] states that "ROH World Heavyweight Championship" is the correct name of the belt. I also left a pretty detailed explanation on Talk: ROH World Heavyweight Championship. I doubt it'll stop, so be aware. Tromboneguy0186 23:58, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
Someone created an article about Randy Baer, also known as RD Reynolds, the creator of wrestlecrap.com. I'm not questioning whether he deserves an article (although I'd lean toward not, it would be a lost cause to try anyway), but most of the article is about his various exploits in small indy feds. It comes off as vanity and self-promotion and (especially the intro) it isn't really written in a NPOV. In fact, I think maybe RD wrote it himself, considering the user name of who is editing is similar to captain crunch, the cereal, which RD claims to be a fan of according to his radio show. What should we do about this article? It needs some kind of tweaking, the indy feds he is in are barely above backyard feds. Burgwerworldz 00:56, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
I have nominated them for deletion, the vote is at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Northern Championship Wrestling. TJ Spyke 22:41, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
Why is Muscle Buster categorised under Brainbuster? All other variations, and the original for that matter, are the head impacting on the mat while in the Muscle Buster the head doesn't even touch the mat at all and instead impacts the head and neck on the wrestlers shoulder. I know there is a neckbreaker variant listed at Neckbreaker#Elevated cradle neckbreaker but it still doesn't explain why Muscle Buster is characterised as a Brainbuster. --- Lid 04:28, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
I noticed that a lot of the wrestler pages are getting kayfabe disclaimer tags. I don't like this tag at all. It's effectively an excuse to keep the quality of writing, specifically the need to distinguish fact from fiction, at a poor standard. In addition, putting it an the beginning of the article is a huge eyesore. We should focus on improving the quality of the writing in the articles, not excusing its lapses with a note. --Jtalledo (talk) 10:30, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
I figured that other people who edit wrestling articles might want to take note of this. It seems to have slipped under this wikiproject's radar. Night Gyr (talk/Oy) 17:01, 19 August 2006 (UTC)