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November 14

Shopping malls by management company

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:45, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge, follow-up on this earlier discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:04, 29 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I think if you did the split, wouldn’t the “managed by” and “owned by” just be sub-cats of the main categories for the management companies. Why delete them? That seems like an un-needed step. SecretName101 (talk) 21:12, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Relisting comment: Purge?
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Category:Teleiodini stubs

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:45, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Moved here from WP:TFD, where the rationale was All former members of this tribe have been moved to Litini. YorkshireExpat (talk) 21:01, 30 October 2022 (UTC). Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 16:05, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:BBC Light Programmes

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The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:46, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: It looks weird, but it's more accurate as the name of the station is BBC Light Programme. Fuddle (talk) 03:40, 29 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Database templates

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:46, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale:
  1. The category consists only of one template (and has been this way for a while, since at least this discussion in 2020).
  2. The category name is confusing – it's not a topical category for templates related to databases, it is for templates that are a kind of database lookup. —⁠andrybak (talk) 21:16, 14 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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French governors of Egypt

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 November 22#French governors of Egypt

Category:Members of the Karatia Zamindari family

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Karatia Zamindari family. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:47, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge, by default a family category contains the articles about the family members, there is no obvious reason to split this in two categories in this case. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:02, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Revolutionaries from West Bengal

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 November 22#Category:Revolutionaries from West Bengal

Eton College categories

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The result of the discussion was: upmerge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:49, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Upmerge the following to Category:People educated at Eton College:
    • Category:Barristers educated at Eton College
    • Category:Bishops educated at Eton College
    • Category:British MPs educated at Eton College
    • Category:Clergy educated at Eton College
    • Category:Diplomats educated at Eton College
    • Category:Government ministers educated at Eton College
    • Category:Lord Lieutenants educated at Eton College
    • Category:Members of the British Royal Household educated at Eton College
Nominator's rationale - these were all created and populated by Rathfelder in October. 2 of them have recently been been upmerged at cfd: 2022 November 3#Category:Royalty educated at Eton College and 2022 October 26#Category:Racehorse trainers educated at Eton College. The former explicitly included a request to consider it as a precedent for upmerging the others. Another precedent is 2022 October 27#Harrow School. Oculi (talk) 18:25, 14 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Epic video games

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The result of the discussion was: Nominated for speedy deletion per WP:G5. (non-admin closure) silvia (inquire within) 15:43, 17 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The "epic" genre is not one typically associated with video games, and not a common descriptor that games are associated with (with the exception of The Elder Scrolls: Skyrim and perhaps a few other outliers). As such this category is unlikely to be useful and any effort to populate it will result in disputes as we cannot reliably source the categorizing of many games as "epics". silvia (inquire within) 17:55, 14 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. It isn't something a reliable source would use to describe a video game in most cases, at least not in the "Tolkien novel" sense. WPscatter t/c 18:07, 14 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Jacopo Sansovino Buildings

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The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:50, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Proper form, like it is used in architecture categories.Mistico Dois (talk) 17:23, 14 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Wikipedians interested in alphabetizing

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:51, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per deletion of Wikipedia:WikiProject Alphabetizing. If this were named "WikiProject Alphabetizing <members/participants>", I would speedy it as G8. * Pppery * it has begun... 16:46, 14 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:WikiProject Materials science members

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:51, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Wikipedia:WikiProject Materials science does not exist. Both members are already in Category:Wikipedians interested in materials science * Pppery * it has begun... 16:46, 14 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
From User talk:FuzzyMagma: Pppery thanks for letting me. I am working at a materials science institute and I was aiming to train volunteers and organise Edit-a-thon to write articles about materials science as part of making a WikiProject Materials science.Sorry i did not get a chance to start neither but hopefully i will be the beginning of next year. FuzzyMagma (talk) 17:35, 14 November 2022 (UTC) * Pppery * it has begun... 17:36, 14 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Astronomical objects by source of name

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:52, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominated subcategories
Category:Minor planets by source of name
Category:Minor planets named for animals
Category:Minor planets named for fictional characters
Category:Minor planets named for comics characters
Category:Minor planets named for fairy tale characters
Category:Minor planets named for film characters
Category:Minor planets named for literary characters
Category:Minor planets named for opera characters
Category:Minor planets named for television characters
Category:Minor planets named from literature
Category:Minor planets named for Middle-earth
Category:Minor planets named from mythology
Category:Minor planets named for people
Category:Minor planets named for biblical people
Category:Minor planets named for crew of STS-51-L
Category:Minor planets named for places
Category:Minor planets named for plants
Category:Minor planets named for rivers
Category:Minor planets with names of unknown origin
Category:Astronomical objects with Hawaiian names
Category:Astronomical objects named from mythology
Category:Astronomical objects named after people
Nominator's rationale: Overcategorization, those astronomical objects are categorized by details about their name rather than by their defining characteristics. Category:Astronomical nomenclature by nation and Category:Lists of astronomical objects named after people are not included in the nomination, as they are categories of lists of astronomical objects rather than astronomical objects themselves. Cambalachero (talk) 14:40, 14 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Usefulness" is an ambiguous concept. E.g. it entirely escapes me how it can be "useful" to navigate from one minor planet named after a plant to another minor planet named after a completely different plant. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:23, 16 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Categories are not only useful for navigation. They provide useful collections of articles. You could get most of the same function from a list, but I prefer to simplicity of the category format. Usefulness will vary from user to user. I just don't see the point in taking something away from other users. This category tree is not problematic, just a bit niche. MClay1 (talk) 01:36, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • So what is the defining characteristic that they share apart from the name? O sure, they are minor planets. But the articles are already in other Minor planets categories too. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:30, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • I have already addressed that non-argument in an earlier message. The only argument advanced to justify it is that the article discussed the origin of the name somewhere, but that's not what being a "defining characteristic" means. Rule of thumb: let's say that the subject of the article changed its name to "Foo". Would we need to make a substantial rewrite to the article, other than move it and in the "reason of the name" section or passage? Cambalachero (talk) 14:06, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Kickboxing stubs

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:54, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete. I mistakenly nominated Kickboxing biography stubs for merger to this parent as well as Martial arts biography stubs, see Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2022_November_2#Category:Hapkido_biography_stubs. The only contents are 9 templates and biographies, both of which are categorised under martial arts stubs, so this is not needed after all, and no merger is required. – Fayenatic London 09:40, 14 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Assassinated Maltese journalists

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Category:Cricket organizations

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