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The result was keep (non-admin closure). Pablo Talk | Contributions 00:14, 9 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Three Hammers[edit]

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Page fails to assert notability for the product, and product does not appear to be more notable than any other variety of cider. Googling "Three Hammers" turns up a page for several other institutions named "Three Hammers, but this article is the only one related to the cider on Page 1, and it's #8 at that. TheCatalyst31 ReactionCreation 23:39, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This drink is legendary. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bazzlad (talkcontribs) 15:26, 5 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was delete. PeaceNT 12:34, 9 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thomas E. Levy[edit]

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  1. WP:PROF: A simple pubmed search on "Levy TE" demonstrates only one publication and a Google Scholar search yields the same paucity of publications.
  2. WP:PROF: The standard of "this academic is more notable than the average college instructor/professor" is often cited. Indeed, Thomas Levy is less notable than the average college instructor as he has less publications and only self-published references.
  3. WP:V: Specifically, WP:SPS. Other than the one minor paper he has in Altern Med Review, all the other sources to this article are from his own books, or to his website.
  4. WP:FRINGE: And I quote, In order to be notable, a non-mainstream theory should be referenced extensively, and in a serious manner, in at least one major mainstream publication. One minor publication in a small Alt Med journal and self-published books hardly count as extensive, serious, or major.
  5. WP:SPAM: All this referencing to the individual's own buisness page and "Dr. Levy's newest book, has an Amazon.com sales rank of #73,329" smacks of self promotion.

Djma12 (talk) 23:33, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • It's not selfpromotion, as I, who entered the sales rank, am not Dr. Levy, nor am I his agent. my understanding is that for some authors, amazon sales rank establishes notability. I agree that as it stands, this article doesn't establish notability.--Alterrabe 21:19, 5 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was delete. - Mailer Diablo 02:55, 9 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

John 'Haystacks' Maguire[edit]

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0 non-wiki ghits for "Haystacks Maguire"; non-wiki ghits for "John Maguire" + any of several prominent terms in article don't give hits that show notability. No sources in article that show notability. Original editor placed "hangon" tag when article was speedied. I assume this means a prod will be contested, so I'm taking it to AfD. Fabrictramp 23:27, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

D'oh. I didn't realize that GS&MPU had been nom'd here too. *scurries off to fix his relisting* Into The Fray T/C 01:09, 5 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Alright, not sure if it was the right way to go about it, but I pointed my tag on GS&MPU here as well. Cheers, Into The Fray T/C 01:19, 5 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

C'mon - Delete Tiptopper 23:25, 6 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment. Yes, but he's patently fictitious and dressed up to look as if he's real. Looks like my plea for evidence of bona fides went unheard --Rodhullandemu (talk - contribs) 06:48, 8 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was keep. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 07:17, 9 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

William Henry Williams[edit]

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Subject falls short of WP:BIO. Running schools is not notability & no major contributions to the enduring historical record. ExtraDry 23:14, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

— Archifile (talkcontribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

That was added by a another editor and not part of the template hence it was removed. Why dont you get back to adding SchoolCruft instead of worrying about little things.ExtraDry 12:06, 7 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Don't be a smart arse. ExtraDry 12:24, 7 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was delete. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 07:18, 9 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Differences between the book and film versions of The Da Vinci Code[edit]

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Original research based on primary sources. `'Míkka 23:12, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was delete. User:DragonflySixtyseven

The Adventures of Peter Warren Hatcher[edit]

No sources, no explanation as to where this show is televised, zero Google hits with this name. Hoax? Corvus cornix 23:06, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Delete--JForget 22:51, 6 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wally Zaher[edit]

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0 non-wiki ghits. Very surprising for someone who was "recognized by club A.S. Roma and they signed him to a 7 year, 6.23 million dollar contract". Contested prod. Fabrictramp 23:05, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. PeaceNT 12:27, 9 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Dialsoul[edit]

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Abandoned page. Tagged for sources/cleanup since December of 05 with no significant improvement in the article. No evidence of WP:N. Avruch 23:02, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was keep. Wizardman 03:30, 11 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Marketization[edit]

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Tagged for cleanup since 12/2005 and sources since 06/2006 but no sources have been added. No evidence of WP:N or verifiability. Avruch 22:59, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Relisting for additional comments AvruchTalk 22:51, 9 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • And comment. Why wasn't a redirect attempt made already? Bacchiad 12:38, 5 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
What sourced material? AvruchTalk 13:29, 5 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Just saying 'Notable' or 'Notable per Google hits' doesn't really argue effectively for notability. This concept isn't addressed specifically in any of the top hits on the Google or Google scholar results. It appears to mean a number of different things, typically along the lines of privatization or partial privatization. It should be deleted or stubbed until someone can provide some evidence that the concept as described in this page actually exists/is used. AvruchTalk 22:48, 9 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. I've left a note at Wikipedia:WikiProject Economics regarding this article

Comment. I've left a note at Portal:Business and economics regarding this article


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The result was delete. Non-notable club, lack of reliable third-party references. PeaceNT 14:22, 9 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ferry Athletic YFC[edit]

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I think youth football teams fail the notability requirements. Corvus cornix 22:43, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Note Tannadice25 is the article's creator and sole editor to date, and also has a COI as he plays for the team in question
Yes it is. Notability is asserted through the presence of independent third party references to the club. The fact that the club has only 63 Ghits, several of which are not actually about to the club anyway, and only one mention in a local newspaper (a letter complaining about foul language from 2005) aside from fixture lists shows that it is not notable. пﮟოьεԻ 57 09:25, 5 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was delete. PeaceNT 12:26, 9 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

September 2007 Scandinavian Airlines Q400 incidents[edit]

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The events in this article exist in their own pages: Scandinavian Airlines Flight 1209 and Scandinavian Airlines Flight 2748. This article is redundant. Also, both pages were nominated for deletion and survived (see here and here). – Zntrip 22:42, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was speedy relegation to the realm of Forgotten Tales Made Up In School One Day. Fut.Perf. 07:41, 6 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Korbi[edit]

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Completely fake data (WP:HOAX)   Avg    22:37, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was withdrawn. It is clear to me that the community likes this article and wants to keep it. It is unfortunate that it will only continue to deteriorate into a gigantic repository of trivia over the next several months, and never become a real comprehensive encyclopedic article. Revisit this in 6 months and prove me wrong. Burntsauce 16:50, 5 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Goldfish swallowing[edit]

Suggest deletion of this trivial fad. Sources consist of a letter (not an article, a letter) to The New York Times and a puerile filler piece from Time Magazine. There is nothing notable or encyclopedic to be seen here. Burntsauce 22:25, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was Speedy Delete by Pascal.Tesson with the reason "CSD G11: Blatant Advertising". Non-admin close. Bongwarrior 08:12, 5 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

BerryLine[edit]

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Non-notable yogurt shop. Corvus cornix 22:24, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was delete. - Mailer Diablo 02:54, 9 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Farhan Masood[edit]

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No sources for claims of notability for Mr. Masood as the person who "originate[d] Urdu, Arabic, Persian, Pushto, Sindhi, Punjabi characters for the first time on the Internet in the world with the use of his Urdu Internet Technology." Author removed an ((unsourced)) tag (as well as a prod tag) without adding sources or expanding article. NawlinWiki 22:20, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was delete. - Mailer Diablo 02:53, 9 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Post trauma dilemma[edit]

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Unreferenced since marchh, not berifiable via google, orphan. looks like original essay to me `'Míkka 22:12, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was deleted as copyright violation: cut and paste from Academic Press. `'Míkka 22:21, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Rothschild (Faberge Egg)[edit]

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Wikipedia is not a newspaper Corvus cornix 21:58, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Delete - While the keep reasoning agrees that reliable sources need to be found (which is self-evident), insufficient reliable source material was presented in this AfD nor was it made clear that such material had a realistic chance of being located. Information taken from the plot itself is not independent reliable source material. Consensus is that there is not enough reliable source material independent of the entries themselves to create an attributable article on the topic. Also, making inferences about the psychiatric diagnoses of fictional characters is both subjective (thus POV) and original research and consensus is that this list was original research. -- Jreferee t/c 03:52, 12 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

List of fictional characters with posttraumatic stress disorder[edit]

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Hopeless huge original research, starting right from Hobbits. Even the list of "real" ones was deleted. `'Míkka 21:58, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

if you know some of the movies, you will know they are more than inferences. But this will be settled not by you & me arguing about it, but by the insertion of sources. probably it should be made clear in the introduction. that PTSD = shell shock, because that's the term used in discussing the earlier works. If necessary the title of the article can be changed to accommodate this. DGG (talk) 01:28, 7 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
yes its a long list--even massive, and it will be even more imposing when fully documented. . A important topic, apparently. "Doesnt belong here" = IDONTLIKEIT. DGG (talk) 03:59, 7 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Don't put words in my mouth. I could say the same thing about your keep comment, as you vote keep in all fictional AFDs. So that falls under ILIKEIT. Stop being petty, by attacking my comments. RobJ1981 07:49, 7 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. PeaceNT 12:25, 9 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Neeraj Khajanchi[edit]

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Only a small claim of notability in article, with no sources offered to back up claims. First several pages of non-wiki ghits don't show notability. Original author placed "hangon" tag on speedy. I assume they will also contest a prod, so I'm taking this straight to AfD. Fabrictramp 21:51, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was keep (non-admin closure). Pablo Talk | Contributions 00:19, 9 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

List of Celebrity endorsed perfumes[edit]

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Another list that seems useless. Ridernyc 21:50, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nor is this a frivolous article. One would expect that there probably are some articles available about the perfume industry, whose revenues depend, more than most products, on a celebrity endorsement, something that's been true since the days of Coco Chanel. Shopping for a scent is generally an act of faith, since it's impractical to test each product in advance. This can be improved quite easily. Mandsford 22:53, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I interpret indiscriminate differently--it is one that includes every possible item or company in an a group without limiting itself to the important ones. The discrimination is betweeen the ones included and the ones not included. DGG (talk) 08:33, 5 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
what exactly is it handy for?Ridernyc 05:14, 5 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
There, I added "* Svetlana Stalin: Svetlana's Breath" to the list. Problem solved; lets keep and expand the list. Fee Fi Foe Fum 04:22, 5 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Were there any other celebrities who endorsed perfumes other than the now-famous individuals listed, like in previous decades? Elizabeth Taylor comes to mind, but what about in the 20's 30's 40's etc? The article needs sources, not just original research. Didn't Joan Crawford promote "Jungle Gardenia?" Didn't Marilyn Monroe say she wore nothing to bed but "Chanel No 5?" Edison 07:01, 5 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Reply I understand very well that we do not have articles with arbitrary listings of things an editor likes, chosen by their original research, and not sourced to any secondary reliable source. I have shown that the list is arbitrary and indiscriminate, and not based on well defined criteria. Edison 17:06, 5 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Sourcing is a legitimate concern. "Arbitrary" and "indiscriminate", at least as you seem to be using the words, are side-effects of the very model upon which Wikipedia operates, just as "incomplete" is. As for "original research", do you think the original research is in deeming that Christina Aguilera is a celebrity, or that she endorses the perfume which bears her name? -- 192.250.34.161 18:49, 5 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was keep. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 06:46, 10 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Tom Cryer[edit]

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I came upon this article via an RfC filed over its neutrality. There has been extensive debate over various issues regarding it, before and after the filing of its RfC, which filing has now been replaced by a filing with the Mediation Cabal. Regardless of that, my chief concern has been over its notability. While a popular figure recently with tax protestors (Cryer was acquitted on tax evasion charges in July), there remains the fact that this article is sourced by only one two secondary sources (though there are several primary sources, including court documents and Cryer's soapbox website). An acquittal on tax evasion is not enough to be notable. Being an attorney is not enough to be notable. There is only one relevant, reliable secondary news source for the article, which I believe fails WP:BIO. Before we continue with the Cabal case, I wanted to express my concerns over its notability here and seek community-consensus on the issue. I believe it should be deleted. Into The Fray T/C 21:41, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment - the point, and I apologize if it was ambiguous, is that there are plenty of primary sources (Cryer's website, legal documents relating to Cryer, Cryer's Youtube videos, etc) but scarce few secondary sources. Yes, we do prefer secondary sources, which is rather the whole gist of my nomination. Into The Fray T/C 21:19, 8 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was Delete No indications of professionnal sports player by that name--JForget 23:05, 8 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Barry Mead[edit]

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Possible hoax WikiGull 21:41, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment No record in either my definitive Torquay United book or my book on all professional footballers since 1945, but in the depths of my memory this might be a player that changed his name, though even then he would have a page under the other name.WikiGull 22:27, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. - Mailer Diablo 02:52, 9 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

People of Mixed Italian/African descent but not from Italy[edit]

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is there any reason to have lists like this other just to make a list about something. I can't imagine how this could be use full for anything. Ridernyc 21:11, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have create this article in order to split from the article "african italians" ( persons that live in Italy and are italian, with an african background ) from person that live outside Italy with a mixed italian and african background. An author as suggest that but didn't perform the split.User:Lucifero4


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The result was delete. PeaceNT 12:36, 9 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Marci Bowers[edit]

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Non notable individual, no outside/unrelated sources Avruch 20:55, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was Keep. improvement. Nomination withdrawn. PeaceNT 12:42, 9 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Heroic art[edit]

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The article Heroic art asserts that this was the Third Reich's term for their official/preferred art, a claim that is baseless as far as I can tell. The locution "heroic art", which appears in art criticism from time to time, means different things to different people, much like "sentimental art" or "underrated art" or "confusing art", which also don't rate Wikipedia articles. Ewulp 20:48, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment A move to Art of the Third Reich would solve this nicely. I shouldn't have tagged it AfD...there needs to be an article on this subject, just not named "Heroic Art". Ewulp 05:23, 6 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Done, although the search term "Heroic Art" with the subsidary search term Nazi does return the following [19] at Google Scholar. I can understand why User ewulp would wish this article to use a more specific name rather than a general one, and the move has now been done (its done by the move button next to the history button). It actually didn't need an Afd to do this. If Ewulp is happy with this renaming and that concerns with the veracity of the article can be dealt with (either by citing or rewriting) than this Afd can be closed by user Ewulp withrawing the nomination.KTo288 10:14, 6 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was keep (non-admin closure). Pablo Talk | Contributions 02:08, 10 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Captain Richard Avery Hornsby[edit]

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This appears to be a hoax. Originally created on 19th September it was speedily deleted as the author had blanked the page. He has since recreated it but it reads like a story. The source given for the burial records shows not record of a burial of a person of this name so should be discounted. The second source is merely testifies that a song may (or may not) exist. A Google Search produces a big fat zero, apart from the Wikipedia article [20]. B1atv 20:36, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment to above The policy on burden of evidence places responsibility on the editor to cite reliable sources. There does seem to be sources, but the proof you provided are a graveyard and a ballad. With regards to the google dig, I'm actually likely to agree with you, that google has been used to inappropriately give weight for arguments for deletion (not just this one, either). Given the antiquity of the subject, it may be difficult to provide online results; but in the same manner, given that any subject material likely pre-dates any copyright laws, you might be able to get these texts online in some manner (I don't know if wikibooks would be the place) which may also provide enough supporting evidence for the subject. Yngvarr (t) (c) 12:37, 5 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, that was gracious of him, wasn't it? I've put articles up for AfD that ended up being kept, too- that's why we discuss with the community instead of just deleting things; so we can try to avoid mistakes. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 16:04, 9 October 2007 (UTC}


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The result was All delete--JForget 23:07, 8 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That's Incentive[edit]

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Prod was removed, but no reliable sources were added to show how this band meets WP:MUSIC.

AfD should also include related articles:

-FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 20:26, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Death Cab for Cutie did write a song called "That's Incentive," which this article redirected to at one time, and which was on the album You Can Play These Songs with Chords; I'm okay with a return to the redirect for that article. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 22:19, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Delete--JForget 23:10, 8 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

List of disasters[edit]

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Delete second time around for this one - was kept after a WP:POINT nomination a year ago, but still suffers from unfixable problems. What's a disaster? According to the article: "A disaster is a natural or man-made event that negatively affects life, property, livelihood or industry, often resulting in permanent changes to human societies, ecosystems and environment. Disasters manifest as hazards exacerbating vulnerable conditions and exceeding individuals' and communities means to survive and thrive. Most of the catastrophic disasters listed in this article have occurred at a specific non-enduring time in history rather than a longer time-period (e.g. this excludes entire long-lasting wars while including specific events during wars)." So this list is a mish-mash of WP:OR, WP:SYNTH and WP:NPOV matters - an earthquake that kills 2 is a disaster - I would think it a tragedy but hardly a disaster (my POV), but no car accidents that kill 2 - the article's POV apparently - unless it's because the Big Dig in Boston is what kills you in your car then 1 death suffices to make it a disaster. Face it: accidents happen all the time that "negatively affect[] life, property, livelihood or industry" - every car crash, industrial accident, product recall, tainted food product, hazardous chemical leak, OPEC meeting, along with even relatively minor (and nn) earthquakes, storms, military engagements. We have subsidiary lists which take care of notable items of each genre; we have categories, too. But to list some things as "disasters" while ignoring others without any definable threshold, is essentially comparing apples to asteroids here. Carlossuarez46 20:23, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. - Mailer Diablo 02:52, 9 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Cuffed Together[edit]

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Not every episode of every cartoon needs a page. Overcategorisation. Spamguy 19:55, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was No consensus/keep. — Scientizzle 05:08, 13 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Public forum debate[edit]

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These articles appear to have been created as spin-offs of National Forensic League. They make no assertions of the notability of each individual part of the (admittedly notable) NFL competition - notability is not inherited. It is unlikely to the point of impossiblity that evidence of such notability can be found. None of these articles provide any reliable sources to verify the claims (or indeed any sources at all), making it impossible to differentiate between verifiable fact and original research. This is significant only as it is doubtful that reliable sources can be found. In the absence of an encyclopaedic coverage, most of the articles incorporate (or incorporated) lists of past winners or other unnecessary and unecyclopaedic information. I have ommitted from this nomination the only article that I believe has the potential to assert its notability (Lincoln-Douglas Debate). While I dislike block nominations as much as any, these articles really are peas in a pod. That pod is, unfortunately, not one of ours. Happymelon 19:43, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Although, I'm happy to see that the best event (LD) was the onoly one spared ;) Also, why did you not nominate Policy Debate? I understand it's obviously notable, but it too is assoicated with the NFL.
And though it doesn't really help my "side" I should note that many people are probably going to want to merge this with Individual events (speech).--YbborTalk 21:26, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was Speedy delete a7, made-up game, created under this title after repeated speedy deletions and salting of Chicago Ball; WP:SNOW for those being picky about the speedy categories. NawlinWiki 22:23, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Chicag ball[edit]

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non-notable game invented by author. We really need a speedy category for this kind of thing. Kww 19:30, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

the game was not invented the day before the article was posted, the game was first played, the day before the article was written. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Emblemcycling (talkcontribs) 20:12, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Can't A7, because it isn't about a "real person, group of people, band, club, company, or web content".Kww 20:24, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. —Cryptic 04:52, 11 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Vijay Park[edit]

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This short stub has survived a deletion discussion in April 2004 (!) and has been unexpanded ever since. It is about a residential complex within a metropolis in India, consisting of 30 buildings the talk page says. Needless to mention, no secondary sources are given. Although I haven't been here that long, I think that consensus has changed since 2004, and we can delete the article by now. --B. Wolterding 19:14, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Delete all. Consensus is that the topic of each of these articles represent what Wikipedia is not and are inappropriate content forks whose information could be covered adaquately in Chord (music), Major chord, and/or Minor chord. -- Jreferee t/c 04:17, 12 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

F major (chord)[edit]

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Anyone able to explain how this deserves an article?? Georgia guy 18:51, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

All of these pages are merely instructions as how to make the chords. There is no context as to what instrument, which leads me to believe that they could even be speedy deleted. However, this is clearly a case of WP:NOT. Smashville 19:13, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I definitely agree with Smashville. These may be stubs but stubs have guidelines too, and these have no chance for expansion. - Rjd0060 14:54, 5 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Keep--JForget 22:56, 6 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Alex Chiu[edit]

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If the unsourced, outrageous claims are ignored, I don't think he'd be notable. Adam Cuerden talk 18:45, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 07:25, 9 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comparison of Social Networks[edit]

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Page looks spammy; a lot of the 'social networks' included do not have articles and the article provides information of little importance to an encyclopaedia. J Di 18:27, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment Yes, I think the same would apply. The article even states that the list is not necessarily complete nor up to date, and the precedent found by Ref would seem to point to its deletion as well. Just an opinion though, with no prejudice if the article or table in question actually went through a real afD. SkerHawx 01:07, 5 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - the basic watchword is always notability. Are each of the links listed in Web desktop truly notable? It's not enough for the List as an article itself to be notable (which is extremely doubtful if its constituent parts are not). Each component of each List should itself be notable. That's easily proven by insisting that each listed item has a standalone WP article (therefore indicating that it is notable in Wikipedia). For this reason, redlinks should always be removed, as we are trying to list items which are notable through bluelinks. Ref (chew)(do) 10:03, 8 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Correction - not wrong, but still leaving oneself open to charges of linkspamming, and endangering the future of the list as a notable entity. Ref (chew)(do) 10:03, 8 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was no consensus, defaulting to keep (non-admin closure). Pablo Talk | Contributions 02:16, 10 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

VANK[edit]

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This page cites no external sources, is written with an obvious and clear bias that is difficult to correct, and is additionally written in poor English. Per WP:N, non-commercial organizations need at least one and preferably multiple unrelated sources. This article appears to have none. Avruch 15:55, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Willing to withdraw nom if delete voters agree, per CaliforniaAliBabaAvruch 00:58, 5 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fifth property of the Euclidean metric

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The result was delete. - Mailer Diablo 02:51, 9 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Five Magazine[edit]

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An undergraduate publication that currently does not establish notability. It might be notable, but of it is then it needs to be shown in the article. Wizardman 17:11, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was delete. —Cryptic 04:57, 11 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Lauri Liiv[edit]

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This is a singer who placed in the country preliminaries for Eurovision. While being in the Eurovision Song Contest establishes notability, I don't believe this is the case for preliminary events. Wizardman 17:07, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 07:26, 9 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ash Lieb[edit]

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No apparent notability: fails WP:BIO. No independent third-party sources. Web presence is all self-published. Freshacconci | Talk 16:57, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was delete. - Mailer Diablo 02:51, 9 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Oxford Trio[edit]

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Possible hoax or non notable band OSbornarfcontributionatoration 16:55, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was Delete--JForget 23:17, 8 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Lock Up Your Daughters tour[edit]

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Delete. NN Endless Dan 16:47, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Delete--JForget 23:15, 8 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Time (band)[edit]

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  1. Delete. NN; WP:BAND Endless Dan 16:41, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete - consensus appears that they are NN. -- Anonymous DissidentTalk 15:25, 11 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Pugs and Kelly[edit]

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Non-notable local midday radio talk show. Cap'n Walker 16:31, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was Delete. Espresso Addict 17:12, 10 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Plastic Surgery Today[edit]

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Local weekend talk radio show. No reliable independent sources to establish notability. Cap'n Walker 16:23, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Speedy delete as hoax, non-admin closure. Ten Pound Hammer(Broken clamshellsOtter chirps) 18:27, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sir Max Woythaler[edit]

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Non-notable and unsourced; suspected hoax Man vyi 16:10, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Delete all. Consensus is that the topics each fail to meet general notability guidelines. -- Jreferee t/c 04:26, 12 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Qara (Neverwinter Nights 2)[edit]

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Also nominating:

Sand (Neverwinter Nights 2) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

These characters are non-notable outside of Neverwinter Nights 2, and read something like a game guide. OSbornarfcontributionatoration 15:48, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy deleted by me. J Milburn 19:43, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Brothers of Beer[edit]

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The article doesn't assert or demonstrate the group's notability. It doesn't appear to match the criteria in either WP:ORG or WP:BIO. There are mentions on the internet, but mostly on non-reliable sources such YouTube and MySpace. SilkTork *SilkyTalk 15:42, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Nomination withdrawn. — Preceding unsigned comment added by J-stan (talkcontribs)

Mark Twain Intermediate School 239[edit]

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WP:OUTCOMES#Education states that middle schools that do not assert notability are getting deleted. The only apparent claim to notability is that it is for the "gifted". Note also that many students of the school seem to be actively editing the page, so we could have a conflict of interest here. J-ſtanTalkContribs 15:21, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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