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The result was redirect to Mr. Achilles. Clear consensus for no standalone; redirect as WP:ATD. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 05:43, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Achilles Alexandrakis (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)

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This is an interesting one. Article on an obscure fictional character entirely unsourced since it was created in 2006. I just created Jennette Lee. She wrote the novel Mr. Achilles, of which Achilles Alexandrakis is the titular character. Lee is certainly notable, Mr. Achilles might be depending on how many reviews are lurking around, but the protagonist of this forgotten novel almost certainly isn't notable. Repurposing to an article on the novel would require hjiacking the title and there's nothing sourced to merge to Jennette Lee or Mr. Achilles (assuming that could legitimately be created). AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 06:03, 6 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 06:03, 6 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Illinois-related deletion discussions. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 06:03, 6 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• delete if the book is not notable and has no article, the character from such a book should also be not notable. Artem.G (talk) 20:06, 6 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak delete and redirect. Nothing on GScholar sadly suggests that the novel or its characters are notable. Redirecting to the author's bio could be considered, but the character is not mentioned there at all... I would like to rescue the sentence "Mr Achilles is descriptive of both Chicago's socially prominent and poor immigrant classes." but I couldn't find a reference to verify this is correct. PS. I've added the name of the character to the author's bio, so redirect is valid now. Does anyone have access to [1] - it may contain some more in depth analysis but I get snippet view only :( --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 10:01, 11 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  @Piotrus: Hellens and Hellions is on the Internet Archive. Pages 63–65 summarize the plot of Mr. Achilles (you'd just need to sign up for an account to read more than two pages at once). Probably still best to have an article on the book before/instead of an article on the character? AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 17:36, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  Mr. Achilles now exists (turns out it was notable after all) so the obvious choice is now to redirect to Mr. Achilles. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 02:37, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete Doesn't meet WP:GNG. Avilich (talk) 22:38, 11 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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