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Hi North8000,
I'm writing to ask whether you would consider having a look at the article. I'm aware that you've been involved with a few PRs before. I've given it a major rewrite and complete overhaul. I began working on the article late October when it looked like this and somehow ended up rewriting the whole thing and aiming for potentially FA. This isn't a process I've been through before, but I have been reading the reviews here in preparation, and am familiar with FAC demands. I would very much appreciate a fresh set of eyes and happily address any concerns you may have.
Thanks! Pseud 14 (talk) 06:54, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
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Regarding this edit , "most-preferred" in this context isn't a subjective term; it's the definition of Condorcet winner. All the voters' expressed preferences are tallied up and one candidate is literally preferred over all the others. I've already provided references explaining this, but we could add more academic refs for the definition, or change the wording to "the candidate preferred more often than the others" or something more explicit, if you think that's better. — Omegatron (talk) 13:53, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
Could it be that machine perception only appears arcane to, because you haven't heard about it yet? Same with me. But if you read the perception article, what doubts could remain? Either we have a lie in the article, or it is about time that we accept the connection. -- Kku (talk) 09:47, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
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Hi North8000,
it's not disputed. See my talk page. Can you please revert your revert? Thanks. Waleswatcher (talk) 12:21, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
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Done North8000 (talk) 11:18, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
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Hi North8000, You recently reverted my short description at Lake with edit summary Undid revision 861570863 by Pbsouthwood (talk) Unsourcable because "surrounded by land" often incorrect. Also confusing using basin in a way that is different than comonly used for lakes.
which I find baffling as it was a summary of the lead sentence, which was referenced. I would also be most interested to know of examples of lakes which are not surrounded by land, which you claim is often the case. Please ping with reply. Cheers, · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 16:35, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
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Yes, many metals have both electron and hole bands, such as aluminium. Some have more conduction due to holes, and so a positive Hall coefficient. See: Talk:Electric_current#Positive_Hall_coefficient for some examples and discussion. Gah4 (talk) 21:08, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
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@Doomsdayer520: Thanks for your post, compliment and work. Sincerely, North8000 (talk) 22:35, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
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Hi North8000,
You undid revision 871814793 (Decision tree learning). In this revision I prevented aggression from user ForgotMyPW, who just permanently removes information. You can see that revision 871814793 isn't related to any "multi-article aggressive promotional campaign", and only restored published earlier information about robust method (published, cited). Could you, please, don't support this war against users of Wikipedia and revert this commit back during the next day.
Truly yours Michael Bree (talk) 18:29, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
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Hello,
As you know I have been considering this users unblock request. One of the restrictions I am considering as part of this unblock request is to have editors "monitor" his edits (look at them to check them) to ensure that he is not slipping back to what got him blocked in the first place. Would you be prepared to do this?-- 5 albert square (talk) 09:19, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
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I'm a bit unclear about your revert at polar bear to remove the hatnote for the ice bear redirect. In your edit summary, Not even polar bear, and too specific and redundant to disambig page if it was
, did you mean that ice bear should be changed to not redirect to polar bear? (It was a redirect that I did not create.) Or did you mean that a reader looking for Ice Bear or Ice Bears (disambiguation), but mistakenly entered ice bear (case and plural difference) instead should figure out their mistake themselves? Thanks in advance.—Bagumba (talk) 01:07, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
If the redirected term could have other meanings, a hatnote (examples) should be placed at the top of the target article or targeted section that will direct readers to the other meanings or to a relevant disambiguation page.I'm not a polar bear expert, but I never thought of ice bear as being synoymous with polar bears before seeing the Wikipedia redirect. Another option is To just change ice bear to be a disambiguation page (or redirect to one) instead of it going to "Polar bear" directly as a WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Cheers.—Bagumba (talk) 15:50, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
I'm not worried about how the article ends/ended up, but just to add a note to the discussion, this presumes that enough people were looking for a character in a TV show to discuss it at the top of the Polar Bear article. The character has only a zero-reference section in an article where the whole article has a tag questioning it's existence on notability grounds. Sincerely, North8000 (talk) 14:04, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
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Just wanted to say thanks for your assistance with Huggums -- 5 albert square (talk) 21:45, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
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Hi North8000.
Just wanted to see if this was still on your radar. No rush - just checking in. CorporateM (Talk) 14:50, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
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Hey, I'm sorry for this edit and replying only now. I thought it would have been a good addition, althought my edit could have been done wrong. As it stands now, it really is the history of right-libertarianism and of the Libertarian Party in the United States. It completely ignores the fact libertarianism originated from the left (even in the United States, where is the only country were libertarianism is not synonymous with libertarian socialism and anarchism) as individualist anarchism and libertarian socialism, among others. It also missed many center-left and other variants as well which are not right-wing. I wish the history section could have added of all this and I wanted to, but I did not really know how to start, so I decided to make it more like a schools of thought section. I did not know it would have been a problem taking bits from their respective pages. In all similair schools of thought section I saw it was done it that way, just taking bits of their respective intros to make it a summary. I thought it could have been a start to improve upon. --79.36.167.52 (talk) 15:26, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
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Thank youǃ :) And apologies for that; I was still working on it and wanted to publish it by several smaller edits but accidentally clicked on Publish changes. Anyway, I don't think the 90,000,000 people example works; Wikipedia works by reliable sources and I agree with Pfhorrest's comparision to football, etc. Also, as I stated elsewhere, I don't think there's a strict, or even single, definition for any political philosophy, yet Wikipedia uses a definition on what reliable sources generally agree with. There're "lots of things under discussion [that] are social constructs and fuzzy contentious abstract concepts", yet they're still discussed about and have some generally agreed definition that we put on Wikipedia as that's what reliable sources generally agree with. It's my understanding that Wikipedia doesn't represent the truth, or any objective truth, but rather verifiabilty based on reliable sources; and isn't a dictionary. Right-libertarianism refers to the Rothbard-Nozick et all tradition that came out from 19th-century libertarianism while American libertarianism is the 20th-century libertarianism that developed as a revival of classical liberalism in the United States after liberalism became associated with the New Deal. Yet, both are American libertarian, but not all American libertarianism is right-libertarian, hence why we have two pages describing two similar, correleted, whatever you want, but still different concepts that are worth or notable; just like we have articles of different strands of other philosophies like socialism, liberalism, conservatism, etc.--Davide King (talk) 23:36, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
Hi North8000,
You recently reverted my edit to the article Artificial neural network with the motivation "is to a science fiction TV show episode." However, if you look at the Mind Field article, you see that the genre is education and science, not science fiction. I have redone my edits. If you still think my edit should be undone, please provide a valid motivation. —Kri (talk) 02:10, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
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@SilkTork: Thanks! And I wish you the same. North8000 (talk) 20:51, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
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There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved.
This relates to the degradation of discussions at Talk:Libertarianism. Not certain that it directly involves you as none of your comments were in the section that I hatted. --Ryk72 talk 04:35, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
Hi there. I was conducting an "informal" study on the usage of Portals on Wikipedia, and for that reason, I've come to ask you a few question:
Apologies for wasting your precious time on Wikipedia. P.S. It's all fine with me if you don't want to answer these questions. Ambuj Shukla (talk) 18:12, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
@Ambujshukla2004:Thanks for the inquiry. I'd be happy to answer:
The modern search engine era has pretty well replaced such methods of finding information.
Sincerely, North8000 (talk) 18:35, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
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--Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:33, 18 January 2020 (UTC) @Gerda Arendt: A belated thank you! North8000 (talk) 11:03, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
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Since the Scouts have changed their policies over time, I found the headings "Support" and "Opposition" confusing. In the article as I found it, and as you reverted it, the "Support" section describes support for the old, original policies, not support for the current policies that have been in place for multiple years now. I found that confusing. Also, i think articles are supposed to reflect current reality.
I'm ok with being reverted. What I want is to find consensus with you about what a non-confusing heading should say. It would be simpler if there was just one issue (eg homosexuality), then we could say "Support for excluding homosexuals" on one section, and "Support for including homosexuals" in the other. But we also have issues about in/excluding girls, and atheists and non-deistic religions.
How would you briefly and neutrally caption these? Perhaps just "Support for excluding people"? Or is that not neutral enough for you? What distinguishes the factions in your mind? Gnuish (talk) 18:25, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
A group of articles targeted by an aggressive promotional campaign. They were partially protected and then the protection expired. Now it appears that the campaign has expanded to additional articles. I'm trying to build a list and watch to see if it warrants further action.
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Hallo North8000! Please be specific about why you want to delete this article. I note that this article is about a living human being and many things will come to light after his death. Then you can expand it better. In the meantime, it's worth the wait. currently:
What's wrong? --Crosstor (talk) 05:22, 26 March 2020 (UTC) Dates = of 99% sure linkspamming or advertising. I started this 12/3/18but looked back for a few
Hello North8000! The article fulfill all Wiki policies, and that's why you have passed the notability requirement. Wikipedia is a source of unbiased information about a diverse body of knowledge. This article presents a new subject that people are interested about. In the true spirit of this platform, there must be no other consideration as long as the article meets the requirements of notability and presents sufficient sources. My status as an independent individual contributor need not be questioned based on any 'circumstantial evidence'. I have the utmost respect for Wikipedia and its editors, and wish to be counted as one, albeit a very inactive one. Sharan Shias (talk) 07:29, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for your response. I hope this Tenghilan article can be improved more in the future. Best wishes NikoUMS (talk) 08:08, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
Hallo, When you create an AfD like this one, please don't sign it until the end of your post. When I hover over the "discussion" in a list like this one, all I see is "Reason". If you hadn't signed it in the middle, I'd have seen at least the start of your argument, enough to make me decide whether to follow the link and look at the AfD discussion or just move on. I thought at first that perhaps you had created the AfD first with "reason" and then gone back to give more detail, but it seems that you did it all in one edit, with the problematic premature signature. Thanks. PamD 08:44, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
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North8000 -- Thank you for your reply. How, then, should I modify the entry for 2043 in order to pass muster? Please advise. DavRice (talk) 21:39, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
Hello, North8000 -- Thank you for your reply. I am a little confused. On 2040s page, I got a response from HiLo48 -- but here also a response from yourself, North8000. I asked HiLo48 if he and you were known to each other and both working together -- he says no. So what is the situation. Is there more than one editor responsible for this? Or some overlapping? Please advise. Thank you -- David RiceDavRice (talk) 04:30, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
Hello, North8000 -- Thank you, I appreciate your note. I have read up on the two areas, and replied in some detail to HiLo48. With thanks -- David RiceDavRice (talk) 06:47, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
You submitted Mehki Raine for deletion and it has since been deleted. I had been editing it after your submission to make improvements and save the article and I believe the proper corrections were made to make the article credible but the deletion discussion was not updated after the edits. Is there any way the article can be restored? Bleu444 (talk) 17:25, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
Hello! Thank you for your time reviewing the Edgenuity article. I understand what you mean when you say it feels like an advertisement, but after elaborating, I can't determine what I need to alter specifically. And trust me, I have no affiliation with this company, other than a student who uses and mildly dislike it. Can you state what wording, context, or sources need to be altered?
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Hello! Thank you for reviewing my page USC Center for the Political Future. I see that you added a note saying it may have issues with notability. I was hoping you could elaborate more on that. I've tried to submit other articles and this has had the most success.
The first two sources I have are reliable sources, at least I think they are. They are the New York Times and the Los Angeles Times. Both of those articles not only make passing mention of the Center for the Political Future but talk about it in depth. I also found this source from POLITICO, which mentions the Center for the Political Future, but it is in reference to the LA Times article about its launch. I haven't added it yet but wanted to run it by you before I did to see if you thought it would alleviate your edits.
Any help you can give me would be greatly appreciated I am hoping to fix any problems with this page that I can in order to make my article as good as it can be.--HarrisonJ09 (talk) 16:42, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
Thanks so much! I added the citation and will review the changes and start working on them.--HarrisonJ09 (talk) 17:36, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
I edited the Jeffrey Mishlove article and removed some puffery and redundant content. I also removed your tag, you can retag if you think it is still not up to par. MistyGraceWhite (talk) 11:59, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
Currently Wikipedia's notability requirement is an immensely complex kludge that mostly works but which few really understand. And most of the few that do do so instinctively from experience rather than being able to describe it. Here's an outline of what it structurally is and how it works:
The lead of wp:notability is not a summary of the body, it is a separate meta-guideline which defines Wikipedia's requirements for existence as a separate article. In essence it says:
Rather than being written worded as being authoritative criteria, the guidelines use vaguer, softer wording, in essence saying that they are merely indicators. Operatively, that means saying that they are mere predictors of community wp:notability decisions made at WP:AFD. The operative parts of the SNG's provide alternate ways (besides the sourcing based requirement in the body of wp:notability) to fulfill the wp:notability requirement. The SNG criteria give lip service to sourcing requirements by saying that they are merely predictors of sourcing, but that lip service has no operational effect.
The actual operative wp:notability criteria is community decisions at wp:afd. Wp:afd has a sort of circular relationship with the notability guidelines; the guidelines usually heavily influence results at wp:AFD, but the guidelines are written as if they are merely predictors of what will happen at wp:afd. Wp:notability-related decisions at wp:afd are based on (in decreasing order of importance):
The most common review of whether or not to nominate an article to wp:afd occurs by the new article review/curation process / new page patrol. They try to follow the same criteria as above.
I've now had a chance to read this (thank you) and to read the network of pages connected to WP:N. I think some recent edits helped but, as you say, none of it is written... can be written succinctly because it's sort of like a fluid version of one of those pictures which is either a face silhouette or a vase, depending how you look at it. GNG/SNG vs AfD, I mean. I've been trying to find simpler ways to be succinct about what might warrant a new article over on the page where we're sketching out a possible Request an article wizard. I've taken the liberty of focusing a lot on the word 'significant'. I know we use it alongside 'coverage' but we also use it to describe putting in people, here. Anyway, is that the kind of thing that could be a simpler explanation around the subject of whether or not a thing belongs here? -- BessieMaelstrom (talk) 23:09, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
Treat this subsection as a talk page
To get us going, I'm bringing over some pertinent bits from the last discussion. (Apologies if this is really clumsy of me.) There was this:
The fact that wp:notability has so many kluges (SNG's) , patches (SNG's) widely accepted exceptions, and some glaring imbalances and is such a source of confusion means that some tuneup is needed. Even though the system mostly works. Sometimes the best policy is to put into words the common sense decision-making which mostly works. This would be:
A decision that weighs all three of these:
- Degree of Enclyclopedicness (a consideration aside from just meeting the low bar of wp:not)
- Real world notability as gauged by #3
- Coverage in sources per the last 3/4 of wp:gng. And, besides being this it's own criteria, it is also the gauge for #2 although it must be unequally applied to compensate for coverage-heavy and coverage-light fields.
And determines if the the result is enough to merit an article in an encyclopedia which will "only" have 10 or 20 million articles.[1]
And this:
... there are some "in progress" states as you are alluding to. One is for cases explicitly defined in the SNG's where sources are presumed to exist.[2]
And this, ref types of articles in Wikipedia:
- Vital Articles on major aspects of nature (eg: geography) and humanity (eg: world wars) that stand on a foundation of common knowledge
- Key Articles that stand on a foundation of broad collective knowledge (eg: Lego); one might call that 'renown'
- Subject Articles that require a foundation of evidence in order to be verified[3]
Plus these things:
Treat this subsection as an article page. Ok to modify text, no signatures needed
The overall topic of wp:Notability is too hard to learn and too difficult/complex for newcomers to understand in a way that doesn't put them off posting a new article
Is "Harmlessness" a criteria at all? qv WT:Notability#North8000's_description_of_how_wp:notability_actually_works_right_now (David Eppstein 2020-06-07 18:19)
Hello North8000. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of 2020 Shanghai Golden Grand Prix, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: importance asserted as part of 2020 Diamond League, consider redirecting per WP:ATD-R. Thank you. SoWhy 08:32, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
Please use Twinkle for creating AfDs. Apart from it being much easier than doing manually, it will avoid errors like this - this AfD doesn't use any of the standard templates so it will not correctly appear on the log page. SD0001 (talk) 05:44, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
I read your message on my talk page regarding the Jabot (horse) article I got started -- but then forgot to reply to it. So, thanks for taking the time to be thoughtful. It is appreciated.Stretchrunner (talk) 03:44, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
Amirul Momenin Manik review this page. Arif (talk) 11:58, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
@Md Arif bd: Thanks for the invite. All of the references are in a language that I don't speak and I'm not fluent at electronically translating that amount of material so I think I'll need to leave that article for somebody who is better than me at that. Sorry and happy editing! Sincerely, North8000 (talk) 19:26, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
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Hi North, came here for two reasons... 1) To let you know I still haven't finished Cornwall Electric yet, but with Wehwalt's kind offer of a first look, I'm confident it can only get better... and maybe enough to submit it for a GA review one day. I wish I could finish it, but cannot. There are four library books I should read, but COVID-19 has kept the place closed for months now. I saw a glimmer of hope this week that they may do a partial opening in a few weeks! 2) Congrats on the New Page Review Rights! I hope you're enjoying the work and that you find it rewarding. Ok... enough of that... now back to work... I want to see your name closer to Rosguill's name here one day. All the Best! :) -- WILDSTARtalk 19:29, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
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Thank you for creating Justine Kerfoot.
I have tagged the page as having some issues to fix, as a part of our page curation process and note that:
Hi, thanks for creating the article. It would be useful to make plain in the introduction why this person meets Wikipedia's Notability critera (See: Wikipedia:Notability (people)). She evident lived an interesting life, but this itself isn't 'notability'. Please also move the section 'un-used references' into the article's talk page as this sort of information might be useful to other wikipedia editors but not to the article itself. Thanks
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Hi North8000. My employer Pure Storage was accused of covertly editing the page, but I am not entirely clear what my predecessor did wrong to cause this. I suspect there is some miscommunication. Would you be willing to take a look? Happy to do whatever is needed to get the company in compliance. KimberlyLe55 (talk) 19:22, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
Hello North8000. Can you help me understand the meaning of "1-2 independent sources with in depth coverage", so that I can edit better in the future. WP:GNG says: "Significant coverage addresses the topic directly and in detail, so that no original research is needed to extract the content. Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention, but it does not need to be the main topic of the source material."
So with that in mind, and using the article Mothers of Diyarbakır as example, would sourcing these articles from Al Jazeera and Reuters not fix that issue? If not, what am I missing? -Randam (talk) 22:26, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
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I think it is not in a required shape to even run an afd on it, but also not a piece of puffery, it is evidence from Mymensingh government website that it is notable, so shifted to draft space, might someone will improve itMajun e Baqi (talk) 18:47, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
lol, to understand the issue, if possible I may add sources in English and Bangla as early as possible, so improving in draftspace will be better, what you think??? and will definitely take your advice before moving it to main space Majun e Baqi (talk) 19:23, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
I have tried to some extent and still work in progress, would you please comment on its notability at this stage thanksMajun e Baqi (talk) 21:59, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
@Majun e Baqi: One question.... The lead of the article says that it is a proposed power station. One of the references seems to list it as an existing power station. Does it currently exist? Sincerely, North8000 (talk) 05:35, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
Ah! I think it is already started because it was proposed project in 2017-18 government session Majun e Baqi (talk) 11:02, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
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@Gerda Arendt: Thanks! North8000 (talk) 13:05, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
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I think bot have again put the deletion template, hope you will solve this problemMajun e Baqi (talk) 15:12, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
I have made some changes in the article Denial of genocide of Serbs in the Independent State of Croatia. Is the page better now? Do all parts now cover the topic directly? Can the Off-topic and Coatrack templates be removed now?--WEBDuB (talk) 16:10, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Draft: Mushir Husain Qidwai. Kindly, have a look so I may publish it to main space Majun e Baqi (talk) 16:55, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Madni Miyan. I have added sources to an article with sources, kindly have a look for its notability, mentioning I am not the creator of this article, lots of loveMajun e Baqi (talk) 17:13, 16 July 2020 (UTC) Majun e Baqi (talk) 17:13, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
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I understand that it is automatically sent to me if I made the redirect, but I believe this is the third or so time I'm asking you to not leave me "Page Curation" notices as none of the times you've left me these have I been the user who created the content on the article. If you find you've sent me one in the future, please remove it after. Can you please remove the Page Curation notice from my talk page that you left there minutes ago, and put it on the talk page of User talk:KpopMonica, who created the content? Also, regarding your comment on the page, Loona does have an article. The user just capitalised their name in the lead. Pings do not work for me as I've turned them off, and I don't see the point in having a conversation about this anyway. I'm just asking yo uto remember this for the future. Thank you. Ss112 01:52, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
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@Gerda Arendt: Thanks for the post. Will do. North8000 (talk) 19:58, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
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Hi, I saw your comments at Starzoner's talk page - Good start. We tilt wp:notability a bit for plants/animals, but usually not down to the species level unless well known, but I'm marking it as reviewed. Happy editing.
Please be aware that this is not the case. If a species has been formally described, we automatically consider it notable and worthy of a standalone article. The cutoff level is at subspecies - we only do subspecies articles if there is an unusual amount to say about the taxon, so that it cannot be comfortably accommodated in the species article. For a species articles, there have to be special circumstances for it not to be considered notable: nomen dubium (or nomen nudum, if the dice fall that way), synonyms obviously, or absence of either original description or reliable log of same in commonly used databases. Whether the species is well known or not does not figure into it - otherwise we would not have ten thousand bettle stubs :) - The closest to a clear codification of this is WP:SPECIESOUTCOMES, which is yeah, not very impressive. But as a NPP reviewer you have to keep it in mind please. Cheers! --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 21:10, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
Hi North! Thanks for the nice words! One rarely gets anything nice on Wikipedia these days...I even had someone put a page I created on speedy deletion because he or she said it was "promotional" nevermind my almost 20 years writing here about different topics! (that are notable and I enjoy) so your compliment was refreshing!
Once again thanks and God bless you! ~~~~
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Hello North8000. You were so kind to leave feedback after reviewing Ryan-Mark Parsons. As you may know, I'm relatively new to Wikipedia and I'm really not sure how to deal with this new and ongoing problem. A banned user once 'recreated' the page after an IP user blanked and redirected the page. The banned user only reverted vandalism and hasn't made any further edits on the page. A confirmed user redirected the page, but later agreed with restoring the page after I reverted the redirection, as they explained they didn't look at the page's history. I'm now fearing that because this banned user has edited the page ONCE (to just revert IP vandalism), it has cast a horrible shadow over the article and I don't think that's fair. There has been no discussion in the talk page either before removing content. The page is already semi-protected, but if that's increased I won't be able to edit the page that I have created. Any guidance or support would be appreciated. JPA24 (talk) 05:01, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
Hello North8000. Thank you so much for elaborating on the review you left on the article. I've mentioned this to other users as well, I'm currently learning each day whilst using Wikipedia. My short-term goal for my relatively new Wiki-career is to get a C-Class for an article - this happened to be on the subject of Ryan-Mark Parsons. There was a consensus to 'keep' the article following AfD discussion and as other users pointed out, it meets grounds for notability. Once I feel more confident and achieved this article milestone, I'd like to focus on a new subject (most likely British TV which is my interest). I only do this to pass the time and it has been helpful during lockdown.
Moving forward, if you have any advice on how to improve the quality of the article from Start-Class to C-Class, I'm completely open to feedback and would be very grateful, merely to enhance my own understanding of this platform. JPA24 (talk) 17:48, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
Thank you North8000. I'm going to work on this feedback and hopefully other editors will notice these points and make improvements too. Thanks again for all of your support. JPA24 (talk) 11:14, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
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A motion was posted on 21 August regarding the amendment request. It can be viewed at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification and Amendment#North8000 restrictions: Motion. You may have already seen this and apologies for the belated notice on my part. For the Arbitration Committee, Dreamy Jazz talk to me | my contributions 12:28, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
@Dreamy Jazz: Thanks! North8000 (talk) 13:29, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
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The motion North8000 restrictions: Motion has been enacted and the amendment request has been archived to Wikipedia talk:Arbitration/Requests#Amendment request: North8000. The enacted motion is as follows:
North8000 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) was restricted by motion in December 2016 (Motion regarding North80000). Recognizing North8000's productive contributions and renewed voluntary commitments, the restrictions are suspended for one year, during which time the restrictions may be re-imposed (individually or entirely) upon request to WP:ARCA if warranted. Any restrictions not reimposed will automatically expire at the end of the one year period.
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@Dreamy Jazz: Thanks for the heads up! Sincerely, North8000 (talk) 01:07, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
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Hi there, you recently made an edit at the Ely, Minnesota article and I am wondering if you would be interested in helping me out with that page. I have not lived in Minnesota for years but I continue to have a very strong connection to the state. I had worked on the Ely article and added a considerable amount of copy some years ago and recently read a news article that mentioned the current copper-nickle mining controversy that is presently going on in Minnesota. I also do a great deal of editing on the environment, for example I am the leading editor of Environmental policy of the Donald Trump administration (and I also added it to that article), so that sparked my interest. Anyway, after reading the article I thought that I'd just add a few words to update the history section. As I read more and more about the plans to introduce copper-nickle mining I found that the conglomerate that plans to open the Ely mine also have questionable ties to Trump and his presidency. So that added to my interest as well because I have concerns about corporate ownership of our country. I'd like to get more into that aspect but the section I've added is already too long and anything more is out of the question. I would like to split that section off while leaving a substantial but much smaller overview at the article. Also, the split would be very good for both the Trump and the BWCA articles and perhaps several other MN Iron Range articles as well. I've never written an article but I am wondering if you might do that, if you have the interest of course. Hope I am not being too wordy here but this subject is very important to me. Thanks for your time. Gandydancer (talk) 18:42, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
I think I may have edit conflicted with you at WP:RSN = HuffPo...will you take a look? If I did, my sincerest apologies. Atsme Talk 📧 17:49, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
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Hello, thank you for your comments at the RfC proposal section at (however we abbreviate the talk page for WP:V). I don't want to talk to everyone simultaneously or dominate the discussion more, so maybe I could hear your thoughts here before distilling some comments onto the page? I have a lot of questions to work out but I'm not sure how much you want to get into this. Thanks in advance for whatever you'd like to discuss. (I should note that I'm not sure if I understand the middle part of your comment.)
By your interpretation of ONUS, "", does that simply mean that an editor must provide a reason other than V to include challenged text, just as an editor must provide a reason other than "I don't like it" to remove the text? I think that does make sense as the original intention of the policy, especially if the first sentence of the policy is meant to be the defining text. (I just found this essay which speaks to part of the ONUS discussion: Wikipedia:Don't revert due solely to "no consensus".) I'm under the impression that the onus policy has been used in a way that is also related to WP:CONSENSUS, which makes sense to me because of the last two sentences. Maybe the policy should be split between WP:V and WP:CONSENSUS?
The second two sentences are where the confusion seems to lie. It sounds like the two sentences are in reverse order, if it's meant to say that if the editor who wishes to add text fails to achieve consensus then the consensus is to omit the text. Then we get into the question of ONUS and removal....and what the CONSENSUS piece of ONUS actually looks like in practice.
So, another question is, regardless of how ONUS is interpreted, what policy do we want? Do we want to say that once a change to consensus is clearly contentious the status quo ante version should be in place pending discussion, which would function as a sort of a trigger for WP:Consensus Required? Although based on the discussion at Talk WP:V I would expect that proposal to be strongly opposed, and it may not be possible to answer these questions without also addressing their concerns by determining whether a status quo version without clear consensus should remain in place pending discussion over contentious changes. Kolya Butternut (talk) 02:43, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
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Hi. Please take a look at Draft:Terje G. Simonsen. It is a properly stated WP:COI contribution about a Norwegian non-fiction author. The article is a translation of a Norwegian Wikipedia article with a bit more sources. The author is a historian and writes about the history of paranormal. Considering your great experience of editing Wikipedia and also the fact that you contributed to Jeffrey Mishlove, I guess that you have a balanced view on the subject and can give me a good and professional advice. Please tell how this article could/should be edited or changed in order to improve the chances of passing an AfC review. Thanks! Peter. --Bbarmadillo (talk) 17:18, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
@Bbarmadillo: Happy to. It looks like it was already accepted both for afc and npp. It looks like an excellent job on the article based on the available sources. If you wanted to take it to the "next level" regarding article quality and being doublysafe on wp:notability I search for 1-2 more sources that wrote about him and incorporate that material into the article. Nice work! North8000 (talk) 02:19, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
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I wrote a article named Sadat Hossain. Then there is two discussion (1st Discussion and 2nd Discussion).The result of both discussion is keep. But for the 3rd time it is flagged as not notable. But as per WP:CREATIVE and WP:AUTHOR rules it meets the criteria. The references are from prominent Bangladeshi & Indian bengali and english newspapers. I want to permanently dissolve this issue. Jubair Sayeed Linas (talk) 20:25, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
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Hi @North8000: those entries are entirely unsuitable for the lede. They are completely WP:NPOV. I had a chat with the editor on it already. scope_creepTalk 15:57, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
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I tried to edit this article to establish a factual version and timeline cited and based on sources, and to clean up the sources, because sometimes the same article was referred to 3 times as if different ones. Yes, I should have asked permission first but got started early this morning. Elizium said I used incorrect formatting, and reverted edits where I had added Fr. to Hogebach. (I thought that and Rev. were pretty common for Catholic and Protestant clergy, respectively.) Some factual material wasn't included at all, such as the name of the college at Chamberlain or the number of students when St. Joseph's school started. If we could have a version that is more factual and cleaned up, it might make the Talk page more productive.Parkwells (talk) 16:46, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
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See my ping at Talk:History of American Indian schools#Scope of this article and potential American Indian school articles, where I have strongly suggested that you self-revert and apply the discussion template for suggested page moves. A note on talk, with a header that does not mention a potential page move, and then moving it yourself when no one has responded to you after four days (two of them over a weekend) is not appropriate. Follow Wikipedia policy for page moves. I have linked the policy and template at talk. Don't make others have to clean this up. - CorbieVreccan ☊ ☼ 21:23, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
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@North8000
about the article Artificial intelligence :
I'd like to ask for consensus to add a section on specialized AI hardware.
the rationale for this is that talking about a type of software without the corresponding hardware makes the subject incomplete.
there are already Wikipedia articles on this subject which I will list below.
Memristor RJJ4y7 (talk) 14:23, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
2021 (UTC)
already started a section RJJ4y7 (talk) 15:19, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
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Hello North8000. I posted an edit request at Talk:Oaktree Capital Management a few days ago, and was rejected without discussion. Of course I am slightly biased due to a COI, but there appears to have been some oversight and I'd love to get a second opinion. A quick look at the other editor's contributions makes it clear that I will likely need a mediator, and you seem to be someone who may be willing to help. If you have a moment to check it out, I would really appreciate it. Thanks! LeiaVOaktree (talk) 19:21, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
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Done North8000 (talk) 12:34, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
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You seem to be a bit confused about reliable sources, since you described content supported by The New York Times and The Washington Post as "fake news". I would suggest looking over WP:RSP to gain a better understanding of how these sources are treated on Wikipedia, since this might differ from your personal beliefs about them. –dlthewave ☎ 21:49, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
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Hello North8000, Thank you for your comments on the Jack Posobiec RfC. I was wondering if you had any suggestions on how to re-word the RfC into a neutral concise tone regarding the lead paragraph? MaximusEditor (talk) 21:31, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
Although this isn’t my main focus, I do think that RS’ing neutral labels could make it so the article reads as more NPOV. Maybe, put that after the current lede descriptions. (talk) 08:22, 7 December 2021 (UTC) (by Tylerf2022)
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This article was mostly a copy/paste/duplication of Social network, to which it has redirected. I reverted to the redirect. MB 14:57, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
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On behalf of the FAR coordinators, thank you, North8000! Your work on Great Lakes Storm of 1913 has allowed the article to retain its featured status, recognizing it as one of the best articles on Wikipedia. This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. You may display this FA star upon your userpage. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Nikkimaria (talk) 03:58, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
@Nikkimaria: I'm honored and thanks! It was a pleasure working with everybody there! North8000 (talk) 14:12, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
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Spread the holiday cheer by adding ((subst:User:Coffee/Holidays)) to your fellow editors' talk pages.
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In retrospect, if I thought your point to be rather strange, I only just realized that you are somewhat correct, I reviewed some articles today and it occurred to me that I had just marked 3 articles as reviewed even though the references didn’t necessarily meet what would we consider as “reliable” as documented in WP:RS, but since they met the relevant SNG, it was a slam dunk review, after my reviews, my mind went straight to what you said. I believe the dynamics in “sourcing” or how sources work, or ought to work with SNG's are a discussion for another day. Celestina007 (talk) 22:59, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
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Thanks for that great insight[4], I've renamed the section to Mass_killings_under_communist_regimes#Enabling_factors, the former section title "Proposed causes" seems to have generated much argumentation in the past, so this may be a step in the right direction. Probably the section lead sentence needs to be updated to reflect that new section title. --Nug (talk) 19:12, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
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Hi North8000, sorry for the trouble, I might sound petulant, I know, however now I need to know in what form you intend to be called to participate in the Drn on Italian parties. Soon I intend to filea request to the Drn, so I need to indicate the users directly involved. I don't know if you prefer to be notified by ping within the discussion, but to facilitate the procedure it would be more practical to indicate you as an involved user (which is not a bad thing). Obviously I will respect your every decision :) --Scia Della Cometa (talk) 09:54, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
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Thanks a lot for heeding my request. I just have no words. I'll always be here to return the favor :). Derivator2017 (talk) 20:40, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
Can you please really tell what's the issue with the page? It's similar to the one which you reviewed (i.e., Al Alia International Indian School). And yes kindly elaborate what you suggested because I have provided over 60 references and sources to make the page eligible for GNG. Derivator2017 (talk) 20:47, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
"ping some of the Wikipedians in the discussion and at least ask them to vote keep or anything near to it"violates WP:CANVASS. Wikipedia is not a platform for you to exploit. Chris Troutman (talk) 21:25, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
Finding those three references was good. You should do two things with them:
Putting an image of the newspaper was a bad idea. I will be forced to delete that and will discuss in the edit summary. North8000 (talk) 22:27, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
@North8000: Alright, I did as you said. Kindly have a look at it in the AFD page. And, just letting you know that those references were already incorporated in the article, maybe you and the others weren't able to spot it due to the inducing amount of material included in the reference list. Derivator2017 (talk) 09:19, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
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Done North8000 (talk) 21:03, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
I have restarted the RfC to resolve the neutrality and clarity issues at Talk:Ghurid dynasty#RfC about the map in the infobox of the Ghurid dynasty article. You are welcome to post again there. पाटलिपुत्र Pat (talk) 13:56, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
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Done. North8000 (talk) 13:57, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
Just a note that I am unclear on the etiquette of something. I put my response to Johnuniq above your response to me. I'm unclear if that was the right thing to do or not.
The situation before:
Now both JU and you were responding to me. I chose to respond to JU immediately below his post, leading to:
Your response is getting pushed further and further away from the post of mine that it was responding to. I wish it weren't. But if I respond to JU below your post, that might also be confusing. I don't know if there is a good way to handle this. I'll add that if you do know of a good way, I don't mind you reordering the posts. Adoring nanny (talk) 05:11, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
Hey @North8000:, I would like to express immense gratitude from the bottom of my heart for helping me out in that tangled place. I firmly believe that the outcome would've been really different had you not heeded to my plea. I will always be grateful for your selfless contribution for saving three months of my hardwork and guiding me. I would also like to apologize if I had unintentionally pestered you a little bit. I just liked your way of simplifying complicated and convoluted instructions. Regards and have a nice day. Derivator2017 (talk) 20:10, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
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Per the canonical gospels, Historicists assert that these literary narratives featuring god-Jesus contain biographical data for the historical personage Jesus b. Joseph/Pantera that can be extracted.
For Biblicists, the gospels are fictional narrative literature and do not support a historical figure but a historical Jesus of some sort probably existed.
Christ is a second-god, is the only-begotten son of First-god (YHWH), was incarnated in a virgin (Mary) and crucified for us. The Nicene Creed, the most widely accepted confession of the Christian faith (but not the only one), explains that this god will appear on Earth at the end of days to judge the living and the dead.
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@2db: Thanks for the post. Sincerely, North8000 (talk) 23:42, 6 February 2022 (UTC) North8000 (talk) 12:12, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
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Apologies for not being specific on the last part, and being late (I was busy with something else :[). My reasoning for adding “think tank” to the lead, is that the ‘The Gravel Institute’ Is considered a think tank, and in the ‘The Gravel Institute’ Wikipedia article it even calls ‘PragerU’ a ‘think tank’. Also the two organizations are almost identical (the only difference being political approaches) in the way they produce their shows and videos. So since ‘The Gravel Institute‘ is considered a think tank, it only makes sense for ‘PragerU’ to be considered a think tank.
Now I do have to say that this does need a Wikipedia consensus, to consider ‘PragerU’ a think tank (as FormalDude advised). But of course the choice is always at the hands of the community. Regards 68.97.131.85 (talk) 19:07, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
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Thanks for your help with this investigation. I was disappointed that check user was turned down as there are likely live socks and sleeper accounts, regards Atlantic306 (talk) 23:16, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
Hi, you did this to my edits to List of wolf attacks in North America and List of fatal bear attacks in North America:
undo removal of large amount of long-standing information
However, the "information" I removed merited removal; it was irrelevant and presented in a sexist way. Much of it is unsourced and likely incorrect. It's not correct to put gender/sex labels (male, female, ♀, ♂) unless the person self-identifies with the labels. Besides, gender/sex is irrelevant to wolf or bear attack victimhood. The unstated purpose of including these labels here, where they are ascribed without consent and irrelevant to the topic, is to bolster patriarchy. (posted by 65.128.60.8)
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This is not supported by the source given [5]. At first I blamed this on a racist IP and am shocked and immensely disappointed to find out it was you. Political POV pushing which directly contradicts the given source is not something I expected of you. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 17:59, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
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Hi, I was just reading your comment on this merger discussion, it seems to me that your comment is a qualified do not merge, but your vote is "Weak merge". Is it a mistake or have I misunderstood?
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Hey, I want to thank you personally for the effort you invested in the Founding Fathers dispute - and away from the embarrassingly and ridiculously long exchanges in which I have been a major perp. I believe our own disagreements have been primarily, as the character in Cool Hand Luke put it, a "failure to communicate". I am certain that if the two of us were working together on a subject of mutual interest we might disagree here or there, but within a brief exchange we'd be seeing eye to eye.
What has come across, though, is your good spirit, as reflected by your desire to help. I just quoted the Dylan song "The Ballad of Frankie Lee and Judas Priest" to of all people, a priest yesterday. The closing lines: "The moral of this story, the moral of the song, is simply that one should never be where one does not belong. So when you see your neighbor carrying somethin', help him with his load, and don't go mistaking Paradise for that home across the road". I live a fair part of my life by that, helping a woman in a supermarket reach a box on the top shelf, letting another driver get in front of me or listening to a friend's lament. That's the spirit I mean, the desire to help others with nothing else to gain. So thanks and I do hope we meet again. Allreet (talk) 06:22, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
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Thought I'd share this while it's on my mind. Local history drew me to Wikipedia. I had worked on some projects for our county's Chamber of Commerce and Historical Society a few decades ago. Using that background, I wrote two articles for Wikipedia on a Founding Father who signed the Declaration and whose house is a couple miles from mine. In updating these articles in January, I did some research on a colonial leader who had been associated with "my founder". I then looked up his Wikipedia article to learn he was considered a Founding Father. That struck me as extremely odd since he had been convicted of treason in the 1780s and was probably the highest ranked figure to earn the dishonor. Earlier, as speaker of the Pennsylvania assembly, he had signed the Continental Association, but as an ardent loyalist, he went on to become an aide to General Howe and then oversaw Philadelphia during the British occupation in 1777-78. After the British abandoned the city, he fled to England where he led the loyalist-in-exile cause. Through the article's edit history and some other forensics, I determined who had bestowed the title and on what basis (a single, misinterpreted article). It only took three months to straighten that out. The upside is I've learned a great deal about the founding and have gained a new interest. Allreet (talk) 13:02, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
Just in case you didn't see my reply. The RFC, including the diff in question, is at the very bottom of the page. You commented on the wrong section. 10mmsocket (talk) 21:20, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
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It occurs to me that if the community stops bullying and banning the editors doing the work, that some of these backlogs wouldn't be as bad. But when they top editors all end up with targets on their backs, you end up with backlogs. 173.71.200.195 (talk) 17:57, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
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Good luck in improving this article. Various editors have commented on how it is advocacy that equates criticism of any aspect of the pharmaceutical industry as conspiracism. The only substantial source for the article is a short article by a non-expert in a journal for writers for pharmaceutical companies. The rest of it is just a coatrack for entering any conspiracy theories that reference the pharmaceutical industry.
On the positive side, the article only had 149 views last month. Also, it's too one-sided to be effective propaganda. Like the original source, it's preaching to the choir.
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Sincerely, North8000 (talk) 21:19, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
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The below is a short list of historians & Museums who use "occupied" to describe the Soviet occupation of western Ukraine after Stalin & Hitler invaded Poland. Remember, Poland took 'west Ukraine' for themselves after Poland defeated Ukraine in 1919 in the Polish-Ukraine war - so in the eyes of Ukraine Insurgent Army, that part of Poland belonged to Ukraine. The English-to-Ukraine translation of "Ukraine Insurgent Army" = "Ukrayinsʹka Povstansʹka Armiya" (UPA) & that's why they're called "UPA." UPA was army literally created to wage warfare against Soviet occupation of western Ukraine. That's what the article is about, and the title should reflect that.
"the German-Soviet Pact was signed in August 1939. It paved the way for the joint invasion and occupation of Poland by Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union that September. The pact was an agreement of convenience between the two bitter ideological enemies."[6]
"the eastern territories of Poland were captured on 17th September 1939 by the Soviet army. The authorities in occupation tried to legalize this situation."[7]
"Soviet occupation policy in Lviv was based first and foremost on socio-political and power-political categories and only second on ethno-political ones."[8]
"Russian murder and abduction of local Ukrainian elites today resembles Soviet and German policy during their joint occupation of Poland in 1939." [9]
"Between 1939 and 1941, as they jointly occupied Poland, Moscow and Berlin each sought to destroy its national elites." [10]
"During the consolidation of National Socialism and Stalinism (1933-1938), the joint German-Soviet occupation of Poland (1939-1941), and then the German-Soviet war (1941-1945), mass violence of a sort never before seen in history was visited upon this region. The victims were chiefly Jews, Belarusians, Ukrainians, Poles, Russians, and Balts, the peoples native to these lands." [11]
Best regards, BetsyRMadison (talk) 20:20, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
@BetsyRMadison: Thanks so much for the post. I'm trying to be more of mere navigator / facilitator at the article deferring to you experts at the article who know far more than me rather than having an opinion deriving a finding. But this kind of learning is nice and helps me do that. So, pre WWII and early WWII the term was "occupation". What word would you use for the other periods that are within the scope of the current article? Thanks again. North8000 (talk) 20:59, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
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Notes from Preliminary New Page Patrol review. Thanks fpor your work. IMO does not have the coverage and resultant content to be a separate article. IMO it would be good to merge this into the Orania article. I did not do any disposition, just left this note and the tag. Either way, thanks for your work andwish you happy editing. Sincerely, North8000 (talk) 12:33, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
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Thank you for creating George Hunter (footballer, born 1996).
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Thanks for your work. IMO does not meet WP:Notability under either GNG or the SNG. Suggest merging into the team article. Other than this note and tag, I did not do any dispositions. Either way, happy editing! North8000 (talk) 13:31, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
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Notes from preliminary New Page Patrol review. IMO it needs to add and use 1-2 independent sources that discuss the band in depth. I just added ta and this note hopefully to build towards that.
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Thank you for creating Cult of the Damned.
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Notes from preliminary New Page Patrol review. IMO it needs 1-2 independent sources with in-depth coverage of the band added.
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Hi!
Hope you're well!
I created the page Cult of the Damned that was tagged as possibly not notable. I think it meets the notability guidelines, as a fairly experienced editor. I just wanted to know your reasoning. When I created the article, I looked at WP:MN and, in my interpretation, Cult of the Damned has:
1. "released two or more albums on a major record label or on one of the more important indie labels (i.e., an independent label with a history of more than a few years, and with a roster of performers, many of whom are independently notable)."
They're on Blah Records who have been approved by new page patrol and are 100% independently notable.
2. "Has received non-trivial coverage in independent reliable sources of an international concert tour, or a national concert tour in at least one sovereign country"
https://www.wordplaymagazine.com/blog-1/2019/3/4/live-review-cult-of-the-damned-jazz-cafe-camden
https://ukhh.com/lee-scott-cult-of-the-damned/
Three established sources all mentioning a national concert tour.
What do you think of my take here? Would love to know your thoughts.
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Thanks for all of your work at Talk:Anti-Soviet resistance by the Ukrainian Insurgent Army herding cats and getting the article moved to a much better title. — AjaxSmack 15:21, 19 May 2022 (UTC) @AjaxSmack: Thanks and my pleasure. I left a note there that I'm ready to leave and leave it to you experts. Or if there are any big open question which I might try to help navigate, I'd be happy to help more. Sincerely, North8000 (talk) 17:25, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
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It contributed nothing to the discussion and by reinserting it you appear to be supporting it. Looking at the editor's posts in 2020 when he was last active, his comments aren't surprising. I see I gave him several warnings then also. Doug Weller talk 15:07, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
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Hi north8000 Iv written this message a couple times I’m new to wiki and not sure where to put it aha. Iv seen you nominated Michael wood cinematography for deletion and im interested why and would like to see if there’s anything I can do to improve the page. Thank you! Redtex4 (talk) 02:55, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
Aaaa ok I see thank you. I had read about notability and was hoping the references I included was enough I fully understand if not there is only a couple. I will try and find some more independent articles I think there was something else in the British cinematographer magazine. How should I incorporate these sources/articles into the Wikipedia page. Thanks again! Redtex4 (talk) 03:15, 28 May 2022 (UTC) Aha ok thank you I’m away right now but will get on that from Monday. Thanks again for the help this is all quite new to me! Redtex4 (talk) 10:15, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
(As a preface, the quantity of references is secondary. What's far more important is finding 1-2 independent published sources that discuss him in some depth.) Now, to answer your question, find things that the independent sources said about him and put that material into the article (in your own words......don't copy it in) and put the sources that you found in as references. Again , if you can't get that done within a week, just find the sources and list / describe them (and provide links if on line) that the AFD page. Whether or not such sources exist is the main question of the moment. North8000 (talk) 03:27, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
Hi North8000,
Thanks for your kind remark about the Cecile Paul Simon article. It’s nice to get positive feedback! T. E. Meeks (talk) 22:20, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
Hi North8000. Thanks for your time and effort in reviewing this article and giving feedback. If you feel tha is important you can proceed and do so. Gardenkur (talk) 00:08, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
Hi North8000. Thanks for your time and effort in reviewing this article and giving feedback. If you feel tha is important you can proceed and do so. Gardenkur (talk) 00:11, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
Hello! Thanks for the heads up on Maryanne Oktech. Every prior Survivor winner has an article on the English Wikipedia. Until a new player wins a season, they usually just redirect to the list article that houses every player name unless they have other notoriety. Someone will probably try to recreate the page soon and hopefully it will meet guidelines. I will probably not be the one to expand it unless I feel inspired. Red Director (talk) 00:27, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
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An article you recently created, Beach gear (ship salvage), is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:
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Thank you! In the HEbrew wikipedia I wrote many articles about chess, I add sometimes also on the English one. --Yoavd (talk) 17:10, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
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Thanks for patrolling FabFitFun, the latest of my rapid article output intended to get me access to the helper script. I was told last year that I don't have enough articles under my belt to get the script, and so have been creating a lot of articles lately to meet the threshold. During this, I noticed that a lot of inexperienced people are patrolling. See Talk:Cue Health and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cue Health. Hatchens was just blocked Special:Contributions/Hatchens, and now I'm up against Ari T. Benchaim, the creator of this article just last year: Draft:Golden Sunrise Nutraceutical, Inc.. I'm not responding to the nomination because I'm hoping that others will chastise him/her for their poor judgement, but we'll see. TechnoTalk (talk) 06:16, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
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Hiya. I notice you flag AfDs as resulting from NPP. Do you find that helps/encourages people to be more easy going? Just wonderin' :) Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 07:20, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
Dear North8000. I thank you for your comments and time for reviewing this article. Looking forward to connect with you more and working for growth of Wikipedia in public platform. Thanks again. Gardenkur (talk) 02:18, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
Dear North8000. I would like to say thank you for your kind words upon reviewing a number of pages I have created. It is greatly appreciated. (There are others you might want to cast your your eye over such as John Dearth, Tariq Yunus and Rio Fanning.)
Are you good at getting draft pages into mainspace? If so, the following could be looked at:
Keep up the good work.Silurian25 (talk) 12:53, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
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Regarding these edits: I had assumed your response was to Beeblebrox, but after I noticed you had adjusted your list nesting level, I'm not sure now. If your comments were in response to me, then I've failed to be clear. I agree that the presence of some editors objecting to the implementation of a process isn't an indication that a new consensus is required to proceed with the process. isaacl (talk) 20:46, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
@Isaacl:Thanks for the post. I meant it as a response to the concept in Beeblebrox's post, but made a mistake and added one too many colons. Then I immediately saw my mistake and fixed it. I agree 100% with your post. Sincerely, North8000 (talk) 21:04, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
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You need to have some sort of manual oversight about sending Page Curation notices to the editor who actually created the content on an article, because you have left me three notices about pages I did not create in the past month alone. What use are these messages if the editor who actually started the content isn't getting your feedback, which usually consists of "nice work" (really helpful, by the way)? I have previously raised this with you and you are still doing it. Perhaps you should go through whom you have left Page Curation notices for and actually check if they are the editor who started the content. IIRC, you said last time that I should raise this with whomever created the Page Curation tool, but how do you not seem to have an issue with leaving a message for the wrong editor? They're of no use to me. Actually do some manual oversight and check to make sure they're sent to the right editor. Ss112 02:17, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
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Good start. The provision section could use some pretty heavy re-work. The wording sounds like PR type characterizations rather than saying what's in the order. I marked it as reviewed. Happy editing!
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HI North8000.Hope you are keeping well. Thanks for reviewing your articles and sharing the feedback. However these all are Government organisations and subsequently will be edited with more related information on their functions and other details. Still if you have any feedback I am open to take it. Thanks. Gardenkur (talk) 02:43, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
HI North8000. Thanking you for your detailed reply. I will surely consider all your suggestions making other articles with some time gap. However just wanted to share with you that these are government organisations with public interest. I came across many Government Organisations which are in main space without notable references but in public interest. These organisations are situated in country side with limited or no media coverage but supporting the local population. More importantly the addresses of these organisations and the heads governing them are important along with their contacts to approach them. However if you feel I need to give some more time before adding more articles, I will follow. Thanks again. Gardenkur (talk) 13:36, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
I'm afraid I can't agree with @Atsme that it's appropriate for NPP to push for the merging of the huge number of existing articles on local authorities, including in the Indian context the hundreds if not thousands of articles on taluks, mandals and panchayats. Steve Quinn has a point that for want of sources a new article on a local authority could be better merged, as can be decided case by case by individual NPP reviewers, but in light of the strong existing precedent for local authority articles anything more prescriptive than that may be too wide a subject to be decided on someone's talk page. Be aware please also that WikiProject India have already discussed Gardenkur's contributions - may need to take that into account. Ingratis (talk) 06:27, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
Agree that big decisions can't be made at my talk page. Reasons why it's here at the moment: 1. This is where I was conversing with the editor. 2. I was looking to get some extra guidance and asked for it at NPP. 3. This pssibly might convince/guide @Gardenkur: to self-implement a new direction. On the other hand one could argue that we aren't making any big decision, we're just implementing what has already been decided and written into the notability guidelines. Gardenkur, I that that any outcome (whether it's right here and now or through AFD's etc.) will be to say to put the small amount of unique material into the corresponding city article and to not have seperate articles for these types of entities. What do you think of that idea?
The alternative is that I might take a "test case" pair of these articles to AFD, request input elsewhere, and aske that it be kept open for 2-3 weeks to have a thorough discussion. North8000 (talk) 10:47, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
HI North8000. Nice to see you back again. I really thank your help and efforts in streamlining these articles. As I always said the reason to get these articles on Wikipedia is they are government organisations and public needs them for their help and concerns. I understand Wikipedia has notability clause which might not be met by some of them. However this will be a nice platform to source information in the days to come. If we mix organisations with cities the purpose will not be solved unable to incorporate their administrative information. Will wait for your inputs. Gardenkur (talk) 11:01, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
HI Steve Quinn, North8000. First I offer my sincere apologies to both. I stopped creating articles on this. Request you to kindly give a chance and if it repeats you can take necessary action. I didnt do anything deliberately. Hope you both will excuse. Thanks again and looking forward to work with you both. Gardenkur (talk) 13:54, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
I saw your comment at WP:Articles for deletion/1996 Chorley Borough Council election in response to doktorb's keep comment. I have no doubt about the verifiable nature of local election coverage, and I am actually sympathetic to the argument made - that Wikipedia can be a repository for all of the (verifiable) information (about local politics). The standard for events, as you mentioned is WP:Notability (events), but local politics (especially local elections) does not neatly fit within the overall guidelines - GNG can easily be met (especially in jurisdictions with a local paper), elections have consequences (lasting effects)... I do agree that there are some elements of elections that cut the other way too (especially the national or international impact of a local election). But, the question in my mind is how much of a transformation exists if Wikipedia does become the go-to source for information about elections (again since the information is verifiable)? Does it help the global audience if Wikipedia is a repository for election results (even with a minimum of context)? Is Wikipedia harmed by being a repository of this type of "stats-only" election coverage (I see election results as fundamentally different from sporting statistics or economic data)? I don't know. Thank you for starting the discussion. --Enos733 (talk) 14:48, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
Hi North8000. Hope you are keeping fine. Thanks for your detailed suggestion. I had started reading the guidelines and will continue even if I get experience later, so that I dont miss them. However, believe me when I start any article, first I find in Wikipedia whether the article exists and secondly to find reliable secondary sources for all of them to get notability. A lot of hard work goes in writing each article to understand the context and rephrase them as per Wikipedia standards. I feel disappointed if some of them are deleted or redirected. But I observed the percentage of mine is less compared to few of them. Currently I stopped writing articles on Government organisations I leave it to you to decide if you want me to continue. Half of my articles which were deleted went through discussion and they were not deleted because they didnt meet notability criteria. Secondly those which were redirected were due to delay from my side to add more content at a later stage. I dont want to annoy you as I am looking forward to work with you in this platform and want to move forward under your guidance. If at any time you have any guidance for me please feel free to share and I would be obliged. Thanking you. Yours sincerely. Gardenkur (talk) 12:28, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
Hi North8000. Hope you are keeping fine. I see that you have placed my articles in Articles for Deletion discussion page. I respect your decision. However, if this procedure is followed that all articles irrespective of whether they meet Wikipedia standards will be nominated for deletion. During my editing experience I saw many government bodies dont meet Wikipedia standards. Also they are not structured properly. I did it to get uniformity and efficiency in these articles. Can I request you to move them to draft stage so that I can polish them. I respect your decision in all ways. Thank you. Gardenkur (talk) 23:34, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
Hi North8000. Thanks for your time and efforts in reviewing these pages. Looking forward to work with you. Gardenkur (talk) 02:47, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
Hello, North8000,
I was at Gardenkur's talk page and noticed that you were responsible for reviewing all of their new article creations, some of which have had problems. I just deleted an article they created about a fellow whose only notability is that he waits in line for other people for a living. On the talk page, there were dozens of notices from you.
Is this just "luck of the draw" or do you specifically try to review their work? It seemed like a strange coincidence to have the same reviewer evaluating all of their articles and pronouncing them "Good work". At this point, I'm just curious about this as I don't know the procedures that New Page Reviewers work by. Thanks for any explanation you can provide. Liz Read! Talk! 04:58, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
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I think it's about time I passed some gratitude your way. I keep seeing your name popping up in AfD and AfC places, and I note the kindness and care in how you approach things and I thank you for that. CT55555 (talk) 17:38, 30 June 2022 (UTC) |
Hi North8000. Thanks for your time and efforts and honouring my request. Will follow as you guide or let me know how to proceed. Nice to work with you. Gardenkur (talk) 11:33, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
Hi North8000. With your hard work done moving my articles to draft space for which Iam really obliged and if you guide me I will start working in these articles to make them productive under your guidance. Also as suggested by Mccapra were followed by me but somewhere the gap was felt by them and I will follow and correct it now onwards. Thanks and looking forward to work with you. Gardenkur (talk) 06:30, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
I dropped by to thank you for working with Gardenkur to try and get them to change their approach to article creation. I had a go last year, moved a bunch of their articles to draft and then moved them back to mainspace after they’d done more work in them. I thought they’d got the point but looking at their recent creations, clearly not. Maybe you’ll make better progress. They could be a really productive editor if they can get away from this gamified approach. Good luck! Mccapra (talk) 13:12, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
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Hi, I didn't want to clutter up the AfD, but wanted to let you know how much I agree with the sentiment of your last comment. That the AfD, by being discussed properly, might help us to sort out what we want to do for future local elections. That was, in fact, why I replied to the AfD as a lengthy comment without expressing keep or delete. I would actually delete the Chorley Borough Council article because it's only statistics and the election doesn't seem to have been anything out of the ordinary. I don't think Wikipedia has a duty to mirror all the public statistics needed for democratic openness; we're an encyclopaedia, not a government database. If the election had been of nation-wide political significance, or stood out in some exceptional way, I'd happily have an article. The problem about local elections is obvious: they are rather boring things that happen very frequently and often without any exceptional consequence or long-term meaning, and yet they will always generate a decent amount of reliable press content at the time. So a case can always be made that they're notable, even if there's really nothing to write about. It does need clarification. Elemimele (talk) 17:26, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
@Elemimele: Thanks for the post. I definitely agree that "stats only" articles are not suitable for Wikipedia. I this case I think that it has to be taken in the context of combining wp:notability and wp:not. While humans are good at dealing with a combination of two different considerations and Wikipedia tacitly acknowledges that process in many way, it fails to explicitly acknowledge it leaving a typical AFD to try to based on just one. "Stats only" is an indicator of failure to provide GNG type sources. This is the overall standard although the afd process side "prove a negative dow not follow that. Because I wanted to help get this sorted out (rather than seek a particular outcome I picked this as an edge case regarding the size/scope of the entity covered by the election. Thanks again. Sincerely, North8000 (talk) 21:13, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
The thread on NPP got archived, so leaving this here. Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/2004_Salt_Lake_County_Council_election was a keep with minimal participation while Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/2002_Salt_Lake_County_Council_election was no consensus, also with little participation. It looks like Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/1996 Chorley Borough Council election is going be no consensus or delete. More confirmation that AFD is inconsistent and just depends on who shows up to a particular discussion. MB 04:11, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
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Greetings @ North8000,
I tend to help out and promote draft and article expansions. same time English not being native language I need to seek help in language related areas.
I had helped out an article Draft:Ex-Muslim activism in Kerala but linguistic part is beyond my capacity. Requesting your visit and help in improving the article if topic interests you.
Thanks and warm regards
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@Bookku: I never have enough wiki-minutes but I'll try to help where I can. I took a look. The English there isn't bad, but has an overall problem is that it is written in a conversational tone way, like somebody noticing things and talking about them rather than written in an enclyclpedia / summary form type way. Also the lead needs to be a summary of what's in the article. The lead there is more of an introduction via noting a few items. I'll make a few tweaks there but this will need more work than I will be able to do. Sincerely, North8000 (talk) 12:59, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
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Hi North8000. Hope you are well. Last few days i was not well for some time and rest of the days spent in reading guidelines you created in new user space. Now planning to clean my draft space under your guidance. Kindly guide me how to proceed. Thanks in advance. Gardenkur (talk) 03:41, 1 August 2022 (UTC) @Gardenkur:
How about you pick one of the articles and then we review and analyze it together? North8000 (talk) 12:33, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
Hi North8000. Thanks a lot for your reply. My gratitude for your support too. Sure will do accordingly. Will pick up articles of government organisations of major cities first. In the background will keep adding more direct references for government organisations of other cities. Hope that works. Sincere thanks again. Gardenkur (talk) 14:11, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
Hi North8000. Can you help review this article.Thanks. Gardenkur (talk) 14:34, 2 August 2022 (UTC) Draft:New Town Kolkata Development Authority (NKDA)
Sorry to ask this, but I think it would help if we dealt with 2 Development Authority articles at the same time. Could you pick a 2nd Development Authority article? North8000 (talk) 17:54, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
But it seems I do. Doug Weller talk 18:00, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
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Hi, on the activity requirement, could you clarify if you support/oppose/or are neutral in saying a reviewer must be active at least once in a year at NPP? Looking to establish consensus.
Also, on the Backlog count, you said it was an important template on wanted it back on top (which I did). Do you have a comment on the update frequency. No one else has expressed a desire to have it restored to 15 minute updating. Thanks. MB 23:57, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
@MB: Certainly! I did both. North8000 (talk) 14:56, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
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You post message in my talk and now I contact you. Title Giottiline Ginko is no sense car's name because it does not made: exact title is Giotti Victoria Ginko sourced by me. Wrong title deletion needed and I moved linked articles too: in this moment no article is linked at "Giottiline Ginko". Ciao Staiolone (talk) 05:23, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
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Hey North, hope all is well with you, and thanks for all you do on the project, especially NPP. I came across an oddity while reviewing today. On 3 articles, you left a message of encouragement for the article's creator (something I need to do more of). And in all 3, you made the comment, "I marked it as reviewed". However, none of the articles was marked reviewed, and I checked the log to make sure that another editor hadn't unreviewed them, but did not see it. The last one was this article. I'm not sure you know, but when you leave a message, you also have to mark it reviewed. I thought that if you left a message, it automatically marked it reviewed, but it doesn't. Regardless, just thought I'd let you know. Keep up your fine efforts. Onel5969 TT me 13:43, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
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Feel free to take a look at my latest on Assault Weapon if you have a moment. TY — Moops ⋠T⋡ 14:30, 1 November 2022 (UTC) {Ping|Moops))I think that your changes were good. North8000 (talk) 18:14, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
North, I know we have not agreed in the past on the subject about lists where I have fought hard to keep material most of the time, but I have finally had a personal encounter with some stuff that I think you might normally complain about, and I'm not sure what to do for several reasons because I don't want to go through and nominate each one for fear of someone accusing me of being a mass deletionist for one thing, and for a couple of other reasons, I'm actually pretty sure they count as notable, but I just know they don't belong here as articles, so I don't know what reason to use for deletion that will convince the community to agree with me. Another issue I have is that when I looked at the [What links here] it looks like many articles depend on linking to some of these lists so I'm not even sure if they should be deleted just because I don't have a good feeling about them. Also pinging my past mentors @Betty Logan and @SMcCandlish to assist. Thank you all for helping me on my Wikipedia journey. Any advice would be appreciated. The lists in question are:
I noticed that one of these lists seemed like maybe it was merged into another article, so maybe that is a possible alternative solution to deletion about the fact that so many articles depend on linking to these lists:
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How come you don't have this right? You should. Onel5969 TT me 16:02, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
Hi there, I'm an editing noob and am hoping to get some feedback on an article I drafted about an upcoming folk music band in Australia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Austral_(band) . Maybe you would be interested in commenting on it? 27.32.156.182 (talk) 00:25, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
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