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Hi! When you're back from wikibreak, could you re-scan Latvian Wikipedia? At least, for ID 3 and 34. Thanks! --Edgars2007 (talk/contribs) 16:53, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
Hi, you were mentioned, along with the rest of the Top 10 Wikipedians by edit count, in this news piece: http://priceonomics.com/the-most-prolific-editor-on-wikipedia/. Thanks, ––Rubbish computer (HALP!: I dropped the bass?) 16:29, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
Rubbish computer Wow! Thanks. -- Magioladitis (talk) 16:45, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
You're welcome. --Rubbish computer (HALP!: I dropped the bass?) 16:45, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
Hi! Could you kindly tell me exactly what you did with this edit, as I'm not managing to see any difference in the diff. I ask because I doubt whether an edit that makes no perceptible difference is worth making at all. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 08:21, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
(( Infobox horse
; I'm sure it doesn't matter much. Could I ask you, though, to weigh carefully the potential annoyance of a trivial edit against its value to the project? I have about three hundred such on my watchlist this morning, and I'm … well, not thrilled. Since I'm here, could I also ask you to take care not to edit articles that are blanked for copyright reasons (the copyviocore template specifically asks editors not to do so). I do understand, of course, that you are using a tool and these things should really be taken up with whoever made or manages that tool. Regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 08:58, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
Hi, I've noticed that you've been editing a lot of the horse articles, but I can't see any difference. What are you doing with them? (Did they have typos or something?) I'm not bothered (it'd be stupid if I was) but I'm just curious as to what they need improvement on. I've been trying to make them as good as possible, but if I've done something wrong just let me know and I'll fix it so you won't have to fool with it. Thanks. White Arabian mare (Neigh) 16:14, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
Ok, thanks. I always try to spell-check manually, but it's easy to hit the same key twice by accident. Thanks! White Arabian mare (Neigh) 18:30, 19 October 2015 (UTC)White Arabian mare
With this ever dramatic world and winter coming, here's a cup of tea to alleviate your day! This e-tea's remains have been e-composted SwisterTwister talk 05:04, 22 October 2015 (UTC) |
SwisterTwister thank you so much! You made my day! -- Magioladitis (talk) 05:06, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
Yobot has been removing invisible characters from Ottoman Turkish alphabet, e.g., this edit. The invisible character is the Unicode Left-to-Right mark, which controls whether X Y (where X and Y are Arabic characters) is rendered in Arabic order (Y X) or Latin order (X Y). Am I supposed to use ‎ instead? That makes the page code very messy. --Macrakis (talk) 18:28, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
@Meno25: to help with that. -- Magioladitis (talk) 21:03, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
((lang))
template. Where LtR meets RtL, the ((Lrm))
type templates come in handy. For questions, I ask Meno25. The advantage with the template is that people notice they are there and there is a doc page for help. Bgwhite (talk) 21:08, 20 October 2015 (UTC)The increase in obscure titles will outstrip the increase in shared titles, so that even the percentage of articles with hatnotes to dab pages will decrease.
All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 23:11, 26 October 2015 (UTC).
Hi Magio. I am happy to see you come back. I missed you in the past two weeks. Just wanted to say hi. Best wishes. --Meno25 (talk) 16:48, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
Can you run AWB GFs over Canadian federal election, 1911. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 23:11, 26 October 2015 (UTC).
Rich Farmbrough I merged the references. -- Magioladitis (talk) 05:32, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
Hi Magioladitis. With this edit Yobot changed 6th of October City to 6 October City; the former is the correct name of the place, as you can see. I have corrected it, but how can i prevent the bot from making this error again? Thanks, & cheers, LindsayHello 18:16, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
((not a typo))
template. Bgwhite (talk) 23:39, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
Lindsay thanks for the heads up. Bgwhite thanks for finding a solution! -- Magioladitis (talk) 17:40, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
((Proper name))
is a little nicer - the effect is exactly the same. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 19:22, 27 October 2015 (UTC).Yobot was run on Jane Philpott - it removed the second of 2 ]s for some strange reason leaving the raw text in place instead of the proper link.
EncycloCanuck (talk) 16:43, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
EncycloCanuck thanks for the heads up. It's an AWB bug. -- Magioladitis (talk) 17:13, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
Note: Simplified example can be found here. -- Magioladitis (talk) 17:34, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
This fixes the problem for the specific page. -- Magioladitis (talk) 17:37, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
The bug is in CiteTitleYear. -- Magioladitis (talk) 17:46, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
rev 11719 fixes the bug. -- Magioladitis (talk) 18:25, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
Hi Magioladitis, I've just fix a timeline image on the Fall out boy article which appears to have gone wrong when Yobot remove an extra return from the end of the timeline. As this is the first time I have done anything with a timeline its possible that there is another error in there that I have over looked but I wanted to let you know about this as I didn't think Yobot actions should be causing this type of issue. Cool bot by the way. WyrmVane (talk) 20:34, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
User:Bgwhite can you help here? -- Magioladitis (talk) 05:06, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
User:Frietjes can you help here? -- Magioladitis (talk) 05:14, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
Seems timelines are fragile. Also they don't support yyy-mm-dd format. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 19:25, 27 October 2015 (UTC).
Hi. In your edit on The Kinks article you changed the order of some of the inline cites. It's not an issue, I'm just curious as to the thinking behind the rearrangement because normally cites are arranged in the order of the statements they cover in the sentence as this makes it easy for checking, but your edit changed the logical order to something apparently more random. SilkTork ✔Tea time 06:18, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
I'll copy this over to the AWB talkpage. SilkTork ✔Tea time 13:04, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
Hi there,
Thanks for using AWB to remove and replace invisible characters in my two French fort articles, Fort de la Duchere and Fort Saint-Jean (Lyon). Do you know what are the invisible characters? I think they are spaces. Are they CR or LF characters by any chance?
Endo999 (talk) 20:19, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
Hi, I just wanted to check with you about one of the edits that I made. I was added some info about a known researcher and it keeps sending message that needs more info. all I added has source and besides that, his name is mentioned in different wiki pages and different categories. could you tell me what's the reason thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aviva Jacobson (talk • contribs) 21:03, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
I can't hep with that. Sorry. -- Magioladitis (talk) 05:07, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
Hi Magioladitis. I saw Yobot changed my {what?} to {clarify}. Have the {what?}, {who?} etc templates been deprecated? I often see pages about things that are "old but still in use" (some of the deletion templates, for example), which is confusing. Where can I find a list of the templates in use to request clarity/ more information? Thanks, regards, Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia (talk) 13:24, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
Hi, Magio. You may want to close phab:T100234. This bug report is old (from 2007) and AWB has evolved much since then. No change in edit summary is currently required. I didn't close it myself because I didn't feel it was right since I am not an AWB developer. Best wishes. --Meno25 (talk) 18:31, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
((tracked|T100234|resolved))
renders like this: PS: The 'resolved' parameter seems to be broken. Cheers! ((u|Checkingfax)) {Talk}
00:55, 1 November 2015 (UTC) According to the WP ((middot))
template page using escape-codes for middots on WP is an acceptable alternative to using WP templates or using keyboard commands. Yobot removed escape codes here, and also made some other trivial edits such as changing 'cn' to 'citation needed', putting a line break between back-to-back headings, etc. Please explain the rationale behind each trivial edit. Ping me so I don't have to watch this page. My signature is set up for a copy/paste to ping. Thank you. Cheers! ((u|Checkingfax)) {Talk}
00:24, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
(Removed invisible unicode characters + other fixes using AWB (11720))
((u|Checkingfax)) {Talk}
08:50, 1 November 2015 (UTC)Checkingfax exactly after the middot character there was a hidden invisible shift-in character (U000f). This was removed. On the other matters: cn is a redirect to citation-needed. The cn to citation-needed is a template standardisation done to help other potential tagging bots that may not have the entire list of redirects of citation-needed template. The line break is added per WP:MOSHEAD which requires a line break between headers for readability. I hope answered all your questions! -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:57, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
We couldn't have done it without you | |
Well, maybe. Eventually. But the encyclopedia would not be as good. Celebrate. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 14:55, 1 November 2015 (UTC) |
The Original Barnstar | |
Thanks for all of your many edits to the horse articles! White Arabian mare (Neigh) 00:03, 30 October 2015 (UTC) |
White Arabian mare thank you very much!!! Really appreciated. -- Magioladitis (talk) 05:30, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
Do any of the AWB developers, such as yourself, watch that talkpage? The query regarding ReorderReferences, first raised by Czar ⋅in April 2014, is still not adequately addressed. Is there another location or forum where it might be more appropriate to raise and discuss the issue? SilkTork ✔Tea time 11:01, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
Please stop your mass editing immediately until there is wider consensus that these changes are desired. You are disrupting other people's work by unnecessarily cluttering their watchlists. -- intgr [talk] 16:27, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
MSGJ there is a difference between 2010 and now: Now all banners start with the same pattern (WikiProject...). Moreover, thanks to BattyBot we are down to very few exceptions. I apologise for the disruption of the watchlists but the settings file I have every time to load, gets outdated very often and that increases the chance that some of the tagging bots double tag pages. -- Magioladitis (talk) 16:44, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
@GoingBatty: -- Magioladitis (talk) 16:44, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
Please see this task on phabricator regarding AWB. --Muhammad Shuaib (talk) 16:57, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
Hi Magioladitis,
Thanks for checking out my article on Dolly Nampijinpa Daniels , I have noticed that my article has an orphan tag. I was wondering how I could rectify and improve my article so that this is no longer needed.
Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.181.172.57 (talk) 09:04, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
If you want to, take a look at the article about Marie Serneholt which is this weeks TAFI article. Regards.--BabbaQ (talk) 20:09, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
if you check the end of the template, you will see ((#ifexpr:((#if:(({homepage|))}|1|0))+((#if:(({url|))}|1|0))+((#if:(({website|))}|1|0)) > 1|1))
, which means that if more than one of these parameters is defined, the article is put in the tracking category. if you want to split this into a separate tracking category, we can do so. Frietjes (talk) 17:26, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
Frietjes thanks. -- Magioladitis (talk) 14:16, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
Greetings. I'm not sure I see any overwhelming value in Yobot replacing ((cn)) with ((Citation needed)).--Jim in Georgia Contribs Talk 16:08, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
Hi Magioladitis! I'm having problems with with my bot task to add ((WikiProjectBannerShell)) to talk pages, and hope you can provide some suggestions:
Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 13:28, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
\r?
that we added in these edits. Your custom module solution might also work for talk pages in other namespaces, where WP:AWB/GF doesn't automatically add ((WikiProjectBannerShell)). Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 13:52, 1 November 2015 (UTC)The new Skip conditions provided should be very useful for this task I guess. -- Magioladitis (talk) 07:26, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
Dear Magialaditis,
I have seen you edited in the 'Galapagos syndrome' article. I am relatively new to the whole Wikipedia-editing thing. I have to edit the article as an assignment for my University. I am glad to see somebody actually read my article (and improved it in terms of things I did not know they were to be done in a specific way). I know it is quite something to ask, but I (a complete stranger possibly from the other side of the earth) would be extremely grateful if an experienced wikipedia-editor could drop me a few lines of feedback on what I have written. Kind Regards from London, Louis Sieg LVS29 (talk) 10:40, 3 November 2015 (UTC) |
LVS29 thank you very much!!! -- Magioladitis (talk) 10:14, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
Again you're making automated edits with AWB, that have no visible impact whatsoever, without a bot flag or bot approval, cluttering peoples' watchlists. If that template makes "AWB bots freeze", then you're solving the problem the wrong way around—AWB should be fixed instead. If you continue this pattern, you may be blocked from Wikipedia. -- intgr [talk] 10:05, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
intgr I understand that. That's why I am trying to fix AWB's code on that. In fact I also believe that the addition of "1" as parameters is ridiculous. But the particular template uses mixed named and unnamed parameters making it difficult for me to correct the already written plugin code. The template has almost 1 million transclusions and only 150 of them had a problem 2 years since the last I did something similar. So, yes I understand but I try to be efficient. -- Magioladitis (talk) 10:21, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
Hi! Could you point me to AWB general fixes code, please? Didn't find them in folder structure. Want to gather things, that should be changed for Latvian Wikipedia settings, so that I don't ask million times. --Edgars2007 (talk/contribs) 14:12, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
Hi! Please understand that without a bot approval, you are personally responsible for double-checking any computer-assisted edits you make. See WP:BOTASSIST. Your recent edit broke the talk page here: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Tinfoil_Hat_Linux&oldid=687904927 -- intgr [talk] 13:11, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
Some statistics:
Hello, I have been referred to your talk page by User talk:Bgwhite#Assessment Request. Can you please help me with reassessment (automatic) of Wikiproject Tags. Say for example, can your bot do something like reassess all the talk pages tagged with Wikipedia:WikiProject India and perform assessment of articles in namespaces - categories, templates and the articles which are redirects. -- Pankaj Jain Capankajsmilyo (talk · contribs · ) 08:30, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
Hi, I would like to ask about Urdu translations for AWB, when it will be available? Muhammad Shuaib (talk) 11:27, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the external to internal link syntax tip ;) What about links to Wikipedia pages in other languages? Bobbylon (talk) 01:32, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
onesey95 (talk) 21:51, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
@Hazard-SJ: I can help with the task described in Wikipedia:Bot_requests#WikiProject_Mountains_banner_update. My bot can perform the banner update. -- Magioladitis (talk) 17:28, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
@Magioladitis: Hello. Have you read and do you understand the Wikipedia bot policy, in particular WP:COSMETICBOT?
I am not even wikistalking, I am merely monitoring my watchilst on most days and your edits pop up very frequently, which means you must still make an enormous amount of automated changes. Do you understand that your edits are against the bot policy? Do you understand that repeated violations of Wikipedia policies can get you banned from editing? -- intgr [talk] 23:27, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
Sad to see this is still happening, despite many many warnings and discussions on this talk page recently. I checked a sample of the above diffs and all were purely cosmetic. The message does not seem to be getting through that this is undesirable and against policy. I see no other option but a block. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:45, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
intgr adding WPBS is done by Battybot. -- Magioladitis (talk) 14:56, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
In this case a blp tag was added. 90% (rough approximation) of the edits were not purely cosmetic. The rest were done to add the stupid |1=
. -- Magioladitis (talk) 14:59, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
((WikiProject Georgia))
to ((WikiProject Georgia (country)))
is a purely cosmetic change since Template:WikiProject Georgia is just a redirect to Template:WikiProject Georgia (country). -- GB fan 15:28, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
@JohnBlackburne and MSGJ: If I understand correctly, Magioladitis was warned to stop doing cosmetic edits via a bot. He stopped. Intgr then complained again about Magioladitis not following WP:COSMETICBOT. But Magioladitis was editing manually. MSGJ then blocked Magioladitis for editing too fast with AWB. Correct??? If so, ok. I do find it interesting that Magioladitis is always singled out, while others get a pass. OccultZone was doing tens of thousands of these same edits and nothing. Ser Amantio di Nicolao does upwards of 50 edits a minute with AWB and nothing. Bgwhite (talk) 19:18, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
Just for the record: This is the third tweak I tried. I started by bypassing redirects with low count, then redirects with low count AND non-standard name, then redirects with low count AND non-standard name AND with WPBS missing or with no |1=
. -- Magioladitis (talk) 19:43, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
|1=
, does that have to be explicit? I see examples that work without it. — Earwig talk 08:24, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
The Earwig Yes, I believe some redirects should be deleted or deprecated because they cause confusions. In some cases I have seen Wikioroject banner redirects used in mainspace. On the |1=
problem: There is a longstanding AWB bug that causes AWB to freeze when the tagging plugin is used and the banner does not have the parameter. This is programming bug which I tried to solve. But since the needs of tagging sometimes are more urgent than fixing a software bug I think it's no harm if I go to the few pages not using the parameter and add to prevent the problem. Some people fins find disturbing. I note that the pages with missing 1 parameters are very few. -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:31, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
|1=
if there is a bug in AWB then fix the bug. A known crashing/freezing bug should be particularly easy to find and analyse. It is no appropriate to change otherwise working page markup because an optional tool is broken. If AWB is unusable in the meantime then stop using it.--JohnBlackburnewordsdeeds 16:22, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
((WPBio))
for example - but there should not be any objection to replacing them with clearer templates that user full words from the English language. Some, like ((Physics))
are a waste of good namespace. There are other arguments for both preserving and deleting redirects, regardless of whether they are orphaned or not - and techniques to help resolve the issues.@MSGJ: Did you make the same proposal to any other AWB users? Please don't because this might discourage people from editing. -- Magioladitis (talk) 23:46, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
OK. Then, everything is set for the block to be lifted. Thanks, Magioladitis (talk) 15:50, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
First: I've been assertive recently in my communication with Magioladitis, to the point that it may seem unreasonable. But when I wrote my first messages, I started with plenty of benefit of the doubt. It's only because this issue comes up again and again so frequently and doesn't get resolved. When I have pointed out these problems to Magioladitis, he makes it seem like he agrees with me and will avoid the behavior future, but continues despite it. Without voicing his disagreement with my position—so there's nothing to build a discussion on, to arrive at a compromise/consensus. Without following the proper processes that are pointed out to him. For example (emphasis added):
If you repeatedly say one thing and do another thing, then that's insincere; I don't want someone like that to make large-scale edits across Wikipedia. It seems almost like denial of an addiction. It may be that I am misunderstsanding some of the communication, but that can only be solved with more constructive discussion, which I haven't had.
As for applying the bot policy: The community has designed a framework of guidelines and policies that everyone should adhere to. The watchlist disruption that I pointed out is just one of the considerations involved in designing the policy. I shouldn't have to justify the guidelines and policies every time someone violates them or disagrees with them. If you don't like the guidelines and processes, you can get involved in the community process to get them changed. But until that happens, constructive editors are expected to abide by them (within reason).
So, please avoid discussing here whether standardising project templates is a good thing or whether people may make large numbers of automated edits. This ban is about Magioladitis's insincere communication with other editors in relation to the bot policy. @MSGJ: Do you agree with my characterisation? -- intgr [talk] 16:09, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
intgr As I said: There were three separate types of fixing. I stopped, tweaked, stopped, tweaked, stopped. -- Magioladitis (talk) 18:15, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
@Intgr, you never explained me why adding a blp tag should not be done by non-bot editors. BLP tags are useful disclaimers requested to be add to all pages about living people. I suspect that adding this edit in the list of "useless edits" or the list of "edits that should not be done by humans" might have been mistake but I would like to be sure about it. -- Magioladitis (talk) 04:49, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
Ingr, et. al. I ll go for a BRFA as soon as I am unblocked. My bot already has approval for similar tasks. I hope this helps. -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:22, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
@GoingBatty: I wonder if you should ask BRFA for deprecated banner parameters. This might be an extension of your BattyBot's current activities. What do you think? -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:25, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
I can also create scripts for Category:Central America articles with deprecated tags and Category:Africa articles with deprecated tags.
Bgwhite you could also help with these categories using your bot? -- Magioladitis (talk) 18:21, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
GoingBatty and Intgr I filled a BRFA as requested. I hope you support it. -- Magioladitis (talk) 11:57, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
@MSGJ: too. Sorry I forgot to ping before. -- Magioladitis (talk) 12:24, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
Hi, I hope I'm not missing a FAQ or something that covered this already, but I wanted to ask if having the bot add before "km" as in this edit here is intentional. I believe that just using a space e.g. 20 km instead of 20 km would be more human-friendly and accomplish the same thing, but I wanted to check and see if there was a need for it. Thanks, and I appreciate the bot cleaning up after my syntax :) -- Joren (talk) 01:38, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
Need to also rename the template/translcuded page? Matthew Ferguson (talk) 17:09, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
After logging out and logging in again. I ve been editing using my bot account instead of my normal account since 16:17, 2 December 2015 till 17:45, 2 December 2015. -- Magioladitis (talk) 17:48, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
You recently edited this page. The peer review link is now missing. Why is the FAC link at the bottom? The link you cited says open GA reviews should be at the top, but does not mention FA reviews. I would think it would be similar. BollyJeff | talk 15:29, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
I see you have now resumed your mass cosmetic changes that was the cause of the recent block on your account. Has anything been learned from that episode? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:03, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
If AWB was being used, it would have "AWB" at the end of the edit summary" Usually yes, but it's possible to change the software to remove that. Perhaps I'm too paranoid.
Therefore, you ARE accusing all gnomes" Don't put your words in someone else's mouth.
At this point, you are just fixated on Magioladitis and are out for blood. Your attitude at the BRFA where you say multiple times that Magioladitis has been banned/blocked and other comments shows bad blood and fixation"
it's possible to change the software...Yes it is and I've seen it. However, as I pointed out above, I could do the same changes faster by manual editing via a web browser.
Don't put your words in someone else's mouth.Again, you accused Magioladitis of going to fast. How in the world does one not infer that I and other gnomes, who are going faster, would not be accused of meatpuppetry? You can't use one standard for one person and another standard for others where MEATPUPPET is concerned
I mentioned the block as evidence that his edits do in fact annoy people.No. You were annoyed at your watchlist being filled up. MSGJ was annoyed that cosmetic changes were being made via automated tools... This is was got him blocked. If he was doing the 1-2 a minute via a browser, MSGJ wouldn't have blocked.
Well, proof that I do everything manually.
Removed old warnings and auto assesements: [21], [22], [23], [24], [25] and much more. And I remember them because I do them manually.
Moreover, I discovered non standardised archive names and renaming helped talk header to work right: [26]
I also merged old afd tags: [27].
I removed unneccessary defaultsort: [28], [29]
Assesed a page: [30]
Fixed an assessment: [31].
Removed wpbs from a single project: [32]
Removed useless talk header: [33]
It took me two edits to fix these because I did not check it right: [34]
-- Magioladitis (talk) 09:07, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
I ve been around long before I use AWB: User:Magioladitis/Notes#Small_shiny_things. -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:15, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
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Yobot changed "cn" to "citation needed". I realize that the cn is redirect, but I don't believe it's necessary to edit the article to remove it. - Eponymous-Archon (talk) 00:07, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
Hi Magioladitis, Thanks for this. I couldn't figure out what the blizzard is happening there. Even after removing wiki code and replacing with inverted commas, it did not come right. Thanks for fixing. Regards, Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia (talk) 21:26, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
Hello Magioladitis, I noticed that you performed this edit on Chandavaram Buddhist site. Perhaps you failed to see the "in-use" flag on the page. Whilst your contributions are appreciated, kindly wait till the in-use tag is removed as it is causing might cause edit conflicts. Arun Kumar SINGH (Talk) 07:20, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
AKS.9955 Happy editing my wikifriend! Thanks for contacting me. -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:41, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
Hello. The new article at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tighe_O'DonoghueRoss has an 'Orphan' banner on it. There is other reference in Wikipedia for him, but there is a problem I hope you can help me with. His name is spelled with a "/" - Tighe O'Donoghue/Ross, but it had to be listed as Tighe O'DonoghueRoss in the title of the article since the "/" in the title would have caused programming problems. Any reference to him elsewhere should include the "/", but if you check https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N22_road_%28Ireland%29, you go to https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tighe_O%27Donoghue/Ross&action=edit&redlink=1. How can this be corrected, so a reference in another article will go to the right page? Thanks.Garranes (talk) 09:54, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
Hello Magioladitis. User:Yobot declared the aricle I am working on as an orphan article. This was interesting and new to me. I have added links and categories, but I am not sure it's enough to stop it being an orphan. I have asked another experienced user to introduce the Poland Portal as I am not sure how to do it myself. I would also like to introduce some photos of him and his architectural work. but currently it is beyond me. I have only done it once before on French Wiki with lots of coaching. So I know about Wikimedia and Commons and getting permissions. I have written to the photographer who has a splendid picture of MMS. He has an article on Polish Wiki, but again I'm not sure how it's done by programming. I've just mentioned it in the article's Talk page. Can you please re-evaluate the work so far? Thank you.--Po Kadzieli (talk) 19:50, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
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Hello. What's the reason of rearrangement of references in the articles made by your bot? The arranging made by authors is not necessarily random. I, for example, place the references in the order of relevance, quality, primary/secondary relations, age or some other considerations. Stas (talk) 01:12, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
To You and Yours!
FWiW Bzuk (talk) 18:33, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
Hello Magioladitis: Enjoy the holiday season and upcoming winter solstice, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, North America1000 22:02, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
This appears to be a sort of integrated care. Why not amalgamate the two articles, as suggested?Rathfelder (talk) 09:09, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
Hi Magioladitis. Yobot is breaking formatting when it replaces ‹i› tags around phrases ending in an apostrophe. See [35] and [36]. Thanks. Eperoton (talk) 14:23, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
Added a space [37], certainly doesn't have anything to do with ISBN as indicated by edit summary. NE Ent 23:41, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
Hello,
Would be grateful if you could translate the following quote to English (context):
"Ποτέ δεν έκρυψα ότι είμαι αλβανικής καταγωγής. Αυτό θα ήταν ασέβεια προς την πατρίδα των γονιών μου και πολλών συγγενών μου. Είμαι και Έλληνας πολίτης. Στην Ελλάδα μεγάλωσα, εκπαιδεύτηκα, έμαθα ποδόσφαιρο. Στη χώρα που υποδέχτηκε την οικογένειά μου και την οποία τιμώ όπως μπορώ."
Also, is there any ambiguity as to what Kone means with regards to his ethnicity/ancestry/origins?37.46.188.80 (talk) 10:59, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
And may your holidays be merry and bright . . . . Cheers. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 15:58, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
You are one heck of a user! SupremeRulerGFG (talk) 22:30, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
Hello
Thank you for catching the mistake on the ISBN for the source I posted here (and, presumably, for the trouble you went to hunting down the one you found) However I have replaced the original one (and corrected it) as it is the ISBN of the edition I quoted from (so that the page number, exact wording, etc, won't be affected). Otherwise it could set off a string of corrections down the line.
I hope you don't mind, it seemed the best thing to do. But thank you anyway, Moonraker12 (talk) 22:30, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2016! | |
Hello Magioladitis, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you a heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2016. Spread the love by adding ((subst:Seasonal Greetings)) to other user talk pages. |
Magioladitis Wishing you a joyous Christmas and a prosperous new year! BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 14:26, 24 December 2015 (UTC) |
(diff) Hey, thanks for your cleanup work, but it would be helpful to have a better edit summary than "cleanup" so editors know why you're removing additional ISBNs from infoboxes. I know that holdings for the paperback and hardcover copies of the book in the diff are different, which is why I preferred to list both, even if the template doesn't play nice with that. czar 17:29, 24 December 2015 (UTC)
Magioladitis,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia. Poepkop (talk) 18:18, 31 December 2015 (UTC)
.
Savvyjack23 (talk) — is wishing you a Happy New Year! This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Happy New Year!
Spread the New Year cheer by adding ((subst:New Year 1)) to their talk page with a friendly message.
Savvyjack23 (talk) 07:44, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
Please use browser's find option and search with "AWB" here. I don't know how to give single URL. --Tito Dutta (talk) 20:41, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
It's not clear what happened here. Kanguole 11:35, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
The Wikimedia Foundation is currently running a consultation on the value and planning process of Wikimania, and is open until 18 January 2016. The goals are to (1) build a shared understanding of the value of Wikimania to help guide conference planning and evaluation, and (2) gather broad community input on what new form(s) Wikimania could take (starting in 2018).
After reviewing the consultation, we'd like to hear your feedback on on this survey.
In addition, feel free to share any personal experiences you have had at at a Wikimedia movement conference, including Wikimania. We plan to compile and share back outcomes from this consultation in February.
With thanks,
I JethroBT (WMF) (talk), from Community Resources 23:46, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
Please explain to me the meaning of the tag you put in the edit history of this article. I notice the article does not appear in searches for its wiki title on the web. Thanks. Jzsj (talk) 08:31, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for the response. I notice now that when I put "wiki" after rather than before the title in "search", it comes up.
Maybe you can tell me whether I may remove "unreviewed" tags once I receive notice from an editor that they have reviewed an article (but not removed the tag). I asked this question on December 31 on the talk page but it was ignored by those who removed the tags. Jzsj (talk) 08:55, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
Γεια. Υπάρχει τρόπος να ζητώ από το AWB να αντικαταστήσει μια λέξη ή φράση μόνο όταν αυτή εμπεριέχεται στις παραμέτρους ενός προτύπου; Xaris333 (talk) 06:52, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
Sorry, but your last AWB spree was out of line, considering that you knew very well what you were doing, and have been blocked for that before. I mean mass edits "clean up / fix parameters using AWB" [38] [39] [40] [41] etc., etc. They do violate WP:AWB rule of use #4 at a speed of ca. 40 edits/min and clutter watchlists and logs while fixing nothing. Materialscientist (talk) 04:37, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
Materialscientist [42] is a good one. I was cleaning Category:Articles using infobox person with unsupported parameters a newly created tracking category. Cleaning this category revealed a lot of problems. Other have been doing the same: [43], [44], [45], [46] etc. -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:10, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
Fram Checking my edits more carefully you are right that this time my "bad edits" ratio was higher than the usual. I guess because of my incomplete script to fix things. Still all the pages would be visited for the second time in a very short period (less than 8 hours; I had to go to bed after making all these clicks) so the person who would see these in their watchlist would not really have to do a lot of extra job to check my edits and the edits before. In many cases by edits fixed vandalism. In general I have the impression that my recent edits fixed more vandalism that may have covered (if this is the concern). I still see that some people do not like old parameters being removed etc while other people create tracing categories and work on removing them. Is maybe this lack of strong consensus a reason that I get some of the complains? Perhaps. In any case I am convinced that what people think as "worthless edits" is not defined and there are often disagreements between the people complaining about my edits. I apologise for the "whitespace only" edits if this brings any good but I still have to question: Is is a good reason to keep me out of Wikipedia for 30 days? Really? Does my bevaviour really worth to be equalised with vandalism? I got no warning prior to the last block and my block was like a "natural extension of the last block". OK. Thanks guys. -- Magioladitis (talk) 01:59, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
Regarding comments above about the block length, it's not really important as the block is only needed until an adequate solution is found. When I blocked for a week I considered it plenty of time to reach an agreement. But in the end Magioladitis waited out the block and here we are again. I see that little has changed this time round, and it's quite probable that a month will pass, Magioladitis will resume editing and the problematic editing will recur at some point. Therefore I am considering to post elsewhere (probably WP:AN) and seek comments from other editors. I will propose an editing restriction from all automated editing. Before doing that however I would like to try one more time at something less restrictive:
If you agree to the question above, we should be able to unblock your main account. That would let you continue your non-automated editing and we could continue discussion about your AWB use on an alternate account. Regards — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 19:11, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
MSGJ not all tasks can be done by a bot. Moreover, I do AWB testing in many phases. -- Magioladitis (talk) 10:05, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
Disappointed but not surprised that we are here again. Endorse block and oppose any unblock until we can negotiate with Magioladitis a comprehensive action plan / editing restriction to prevent these problems recurring. Magioladitis's long history suggests to me that he/she is either unwilling or incapable of adhering to the bot policy and/or AWB's rules. I would suggest that one condition for unblock could be a complete ban against using AWB. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 13:14, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
@Frietjes: I tried to help with the new tracking category to save you some time but sadly it got me blocked. -- Magioladitis (talk) 15:20, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
@GoingBatty: I created a settings file that consists of three parts: Parameters that should be renamed (mainly capitalisation/typos issues), Parameters that should be removed only if they are empty, Parameters that should be removed unconditionally. I can provide the settings file if asked to help improving it. -- Magioladitis (talk) 15:24, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
GoingBatty Unfortunately, I can only post in my talk page. Editing my user space was blocked. -- Magioladitis (talk) 18:13, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
Can someone point me where "cluttering watchlists" is a valid argument for anything? Adding items to watchlists is editor's responsibility. -- Magioladitis (talk) 01:16, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
Sladen I value my available time too. So for me running on a list ofpages sometimes twice takes less time than firstly creating a perfect script and then running only once. The same goes for the reasons I prefer to use tools such as AutoEd and AWB. Because it save me time from thinking. I really thing is valuable that's why I went to help Frietjes with the list even before she asked for any help. -- Magioladitis (talk) 15:49, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
No WP:LAWYERING from my side. The person who blocks have to explain me the block reason otherwise in 28 days I'll do something else and I will be blocked again and I will still be wondering why. -- Magioladitis (talk) 18:14, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
I recall that after the last block there was a discussion somwehere but I can't find it. I can't even recall the result if any. -- Magioladitis (talk) 18:24, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
GoingBatty do you recall if this was the only discussion? No AN/ANI? Everything was discussed in my talk page? In this discussion we concluded that sometimes changes that do not change the visual output may be welcome and sometimes they have consensus. So we did a step forward. This weakens the COSMETICBOT argument. I recall that some years ago performing general fixes with bot was not accepted. Not to speak about changes in talk pages etc. Now we have plenty of AWB bots around. I hope my block is the start so that we make one more step forward. -- Magioladitis (talk) 19:52, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
What's the point of [61]? — Earwig talk 08:55, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
|Img=
should be removed from the infobox person. It is unsupported. -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:01, 16 January 2016 (UTC)Materialscientist the previous block was not for AWB rules violations. It was for COSMETIC changes and later it was proven that the changes were welcome but they had to be done by bot instead of my main account. It is similar but not the same issue. So please reduce my block length. -- Magioladitis (talk) 19:42, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
Materialscientist I am surpriced that you mentioned the last bot block because you were the one who blocked the bot so you should know that this kind of problems are not my responsibility per agreed rules of how Yobot tags for WikiProjects after user requests. The WikiProject Romania was aware of the list about to be tagged and it was their responsibility to clean the list and not mine. The block was OK because it notified the wikiprject guys about the problem but it can't be related to this recent case. -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:10, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
So this is my thing: I do not think I should be punished for every mistake I did since I started Wikipedia till now and everytime something happens to still read things such as "yeah but you did this in 2008". Wikipedia consensus about many things has changed a lot in the last years. -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:13, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
After this edit made by Yobot, the example on the page is displayed incorrectly. Both lines are shown LTR, while the intention of the example is to show both lines RTL, but in the second line only "C++" should be LTR. Could you please take a look and fix your bot and the broken page? VadimIppolitov (talk) 12:05, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
@Materialscientist: Can I run my bot to execute the regular daily tasks while the block in my account? There are backlogs and some editors (e.g. GoingBatty) asked whether I could run the bot. Since the block is not about vandalism I think this could be possible. If you think I keep violating some Wikipedia rules you can enforce the block further. -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:34, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
BrownHairedGirl could do that as soon I am able to use it again. -- Magioladitis (talk) 15:28, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
GoingBatty is taking care of it. Thanks. -- Magioladitis (talk) 16:02, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
Hi! How does this edit help Wikipedia? It appears to be no more than pointless and rather annoying fiddling about. As a general principle, if it isn't broken, there's no need to mend it. Please instruct your bot NOT to move ((COI editnotice)) from its usual position below the project tags and ((connected contributor)) templates, as there's often accompanying talk page text which refers to it as "the lowest yellow notice above" – unless of course you know of some policy which says it has to be at the top? Thanks, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 11:43, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
That's why I think all non standard wikiproject redirects should be replaced: [63], [64], [65], [66]. Frietjes is there a way that we create a tracing categories of misplaced (i.e. not in talk space) wikiprojects? -- Magioladitis (talk) 17:56, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
Frietjes wow. That's easier than I thought :) -- Magioladitis (talk) 18:14, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
Things are really complicated with talk page bot tasks and I keep messing up. I would like someone to take over. @GoingBatty: perhaps? -- Magioladitis (talk) 12:00, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
I underline the fact that in the past I again asked others to take over and some they did for sometimes till they lost interest. -- Magioladitis (talk) 12:10, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
I will help Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/MoohanBOT 9 to pass tests so a part of fixing WPBiography errors will pass to another bot owner. -- Magioladitis (talk) 12:16, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
Here User:Magioladitis/WPBiography I provide a list of tracking categories that are visited by my bot for anyone willing to take over any of them. -- Magioladitis (talk) 12:23, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
List of approved talk page tasks | |||
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Yobot BRFA | Task | Other BRFA | Script |
BRFA 3 | Tagging people who died as "living=no" and those are alive as "living=yes" | BattyBot 30 MoohanBOT 9 (trial) | |
BRFA 9 | Wikiprojects tagging | ||
BRFA 10 |
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BRFA 17 | Various ((WikiProject Biography)) fixes | User:Yobot/Task 17 User:Yobot/Task 17-persondata | |
BRFA 19 | Adds listas in ((WikiProject Biography)) | ||
BRFA 25 | Fix WikiProject banners with deprecated or invalid parameters | F&R; Needs to be replaced by Custom module |
GoingBatty I think the best approach is that a complete module for all WPBiography fixes is created. Or it could be AWB general fixes. Meanwhile, yes, these are the tasks I would like to pass along. -- Magioladitis (talk) 18:00, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
The priority fixes module needs fix. I asked Rjw for help. -- Magioladitis (talk) 18:03, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
I can provide a plan of what is to be fixed and which way and then let other run the bots. -- Magioladitis (talk) 21:02, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
I noticed Yobot's editing at Draft talk:Hiroki Tsurumi like this. First, there's no indication that this is actually inaccurately tagged so the edit summary is misleading. This is kind of annoying when my watchlist is filled with it but there's nothing wrong I can see. Second, there are just redirects from one template to the right one and per WP:NOTBROKEN, is it really necessary to go around removing these kinds of template redirects? -- Ricky81682 (talk) 22:13, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
Ricky81682 Page is in category "Category:Incorrectly tagged WikiProject Biography articles" maybe @Frietjes: can tell me what is wrong with the page? -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:18, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
Ricky81682 I do not recall Draft talk pages to be in that category. The bot failed to fix these because it did not find any problem. It should have skipped but it did not expect Draft pages. -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:21, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
Ricky81682 pages in Draft page are not expected to have infobox (I guess). After removing the |needs-infobox=
the page was delisted. I wait for clarification if this was the correct fix or not. Frietjes should know I guess. If this was the correct fix I ll update the bot code otherwise I ll exclude Draft space form bot editing nd I will ask the tracking category to do the same. I think this resolves everything. Thanks for the heads up. -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:28, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
core
, needs-photo
, needs-infobox
, needs-filmography
, needs-discography
, past-collaboration
, and the transclusion is not on an article talk page, then the transcluding page is added to that category. it might be good to exclude this tracking for draft space, but that should be discussed on the template talk page. Frietjes (talk) 22:41, 25 January 2016 (UTC)That's my drama: I am the target of many complains. Many changes happen around and I have to keep up with many different settings files. So everyone: please be more polite. I try to help as much as possible. -- Magioladitis (talk) 23:08, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
IAM new here and it's like i have to read and understand so many codes for this category or that subject to be placed or risk deletion? Can't you come up with a much easier menu format that you don't need like 3 hour's to read or sift through without getting a headache or feel like you need a collage degree in decifering and understanding mega loads of codes and all kinds of data on what to do and how to do etc. Like at least to make it much more user friendly for everyone and just not look like pages upon pages of input codes and category's that they are to all be placed and in correct order or get dissed by others or deleted or edited by other people Plus taken out of most of it's original content because there opinions or beliefs are different so you must be wrong?Just saying maybe you can at least try and make your site more user friendly and much more easier to navigate it and understand it better on how to use it much more properly?:-) TY John E Wyse John Edward wyse (talk) 04:38, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
I had a thought: the bot tests whether its fix actually resolves the tracking category issue. If not, it doesn't make the edit. (Kind of like a machine-oriented "Show preview".) This could be done with the API, but since you're using AWB I assume it would be very difficult to implement that kind of functionality. — Earwig talk 07:47, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
The Earwig that's actually a very good idea. Requested at T124868 -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:13, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
Hi, re edits like this - most of the cite templates, ((cite journal))
and ((cite magazine))
included, provide a parameter |issn=
(and the alias |ISSN=
) which is where this number should be placed. See Template:Cite journal#csdoc issn. --Redrose64 (talk) 00:32, 28 January 2016 (UTC)
Always appreciated your work on AWB, never got around to thanking you. So here it is, for your work on improving the Kingbotk plugin (and one genfix Custom Module of yours too). QEDK (T 📖 C) 14:45, 28 January 2016 (UTC) |
QEDK thanks. -- Magioladitis (talk) 16:56, 28 January 2016 (UTC)
Magiladitis, I may miss something, but it seems to me as if edits like this,[67],this and this don't actually do anything, not to the rendered page and not even to maintenance categories. This type of edits looks similar to the ones that so recently got you blocked (then with AWB, now with AutoEd), and seem to be a violation of your unblock conditions. If this is correct, then please be a lot more careful in your editing and stick to edits that actually make a difference. Fram (talk) 13:57, 28 January 2016 (UTC)
I did not violate AWB rules of use. -- Magioladitis (talk) 16:56, 28 January 2016 (UTC)
MSGJ it's been more than 1 hour. Where is the AN? -- Magioladitis (talk) 17:57, 28 January 2016 (UTC)
Fram today I did 33 edits. Is there a rule that all my edits should be useful? Is there a rule for every other Wikipedia editor? -- Magioladitis (talk) 17:03, 28 January 2016 (UTC)
I think that the spirit of the block conditions was about AWB and editing too fast. Not semi-automated edit ban. Still if some Wikipedians want to go after me for today's edits they are welcome. I do not feel that I did something wrong. -- Magioladitis (talk) 17:05, 28 January 2016 (UTC)
Fram thanks for your comments. Do you think what Martin just did is right? I can keep away of only whitespace changes. -- Magioladitis (talk) 17:10, 28 January 2016 (UTC)
MSGJ you are being impolite. you did not reply to my messages. Why is that? -- Magioladitis (talk) 20:42, 28 January 2016 (UTC)
xaosflux I did not consider AutoEd as semi-automated edit because I though you were referring only to AWB because the initial block was about AWB rules not about using user scripts. -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:53, 28 January 2016 (UTC)
Headbomb are you aware of the fact that Visual Editor which is massively used by the community contains tenths of bugs? I am a volunteer running multiple scripts. Visual Editor is implemented by professionals. -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:57, 28 January 2016 (UTC)
I am giving a talk next week [68]. I'll add info in my user page asap. -- Magioladitis (talk) 21:24, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
Frietjes and Bgwhite you are two of my favourite wikieditors. I think you 'll find a way to clear things up. I wish I could write in your talk pages. Cooperating with you it's one of the reasons I am still around. After the recent events I thought I have to quit editing. One of the things I enjoy around is watching your edits. Please clear this up. Please. -- Magioladitis (talk) 07:52, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
Sorry to bother you again. I'd like to get a move on Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/MoohanBOT 9 since the issue that's blocking us is fairly minor and the task uncontroversial. Can you take a look? — Earwig talk 04:00, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
The Earwig after checking a bit I think you only need is in the Biography plugin to uncheck all the "Workgroup" boxes. I suspect you had them activated then you ran the bot. Please check and tell me. I can't test it myself and I can't comment in your BRFA because I am currently blocked. -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:05, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
In the next 3 days there will a new AWB release with a newer KingbotK plugin version included. -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:09, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
The Earwig BattyBot is already approved for this task and uses the same code with Yobot. MoohanBOT should face no problems as long as they uncheck the boxes I suggested. The extra boxes just add extra unneeded empty parameters. -- Magioladitis (talk) 07:46, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
-- Magioladitis (talk) 09:46, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
I think it's normal, while it should be avoided, that people who edit a lot sometimes to make "no value" edits. This happens with or without tools. [69], [70], [71] It can also be debated what edits add value or not. Many times in the past there were debates about which edits "they add no value". This is just for the record. -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:56, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
Lugnuts Martin reblocked me while I was not using AWB. :) --Magioladitis (talk) 09:31, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
Lugnuts I wrote "it's not the tools". The "no value" edits are connected to AWB or not? Let's decide this first. What is the discussion in AN about? About Me making "no value edits" or me making "no value edits with AWB"? -- Magioladitis (talk)
So I am not saying Lugnuts is doing bad edits. Let's cleat this. I say that I would expect the same rules to apply with or without tools. -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:35, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
I think it's mainly communication problem here. I ask for clarification about what is the problem exactly. -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:38, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
I am not attacking Lugnuts here. I am using them as an example of a good and persistent editor in fact. Lugnuts has my appreciation for their contributions 100%. -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:56, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
On Lugnuts and Frietjes: It's the two editors I wish they were using the tools more. We would be able to see more good edits on Wikipedia and they would become more effectove. That's shy sometimes I sneak and do what they do by using AWB. To save them time and see more good stuff. -- Magioladitis (talk) 10:00, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
Magioladitis (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
I ll remove the deprecated parameters using by bot account after BRFA and in one pass. -- Magioladitis (talk) 14:21, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
Accept reason:
Will be unblocked under temporary editing restrictions below — xaosflux Talk 23:56, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
Following your unblock request and lack of objection from the blocking admin or other edits, your account is being unblocked with the following temporary editing restrictions:
Mon, 15 Feb 2016 04:38:19 GMT
:
Violation of your editing restriction may lead to additional blocks or other sanctions. Appeal of these sanctions may be made with the original blocking admin or at WP:AN/I.
With five recent edits - Talk:List of awards and nominations received by The Office (U.S. TV series), Wikipedia talk:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/The Office (US) articles by quality log, Wikipedia talk:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/The Office (US) articles by quality statistics, Talk:Deangelo Vickers, Talk:Jo Bennett - Yobot replaces a valid WikiProject banner with a redlinked banner. --Redrose64 (talk) 11:32, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
((WikiProject Television|the-office=yes|the-office-importance=))
. GoingBatty (talk) 17:48, 29 January 2016 (UTC)GoingBatty you are great! -- Magioladitis (talk) 18:01, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
When replacing an ISSN by the template, be aware of external links. The result looks strange: Henriette Tirman#External links --GünniX (talk) 07:26, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
GünniX What do you mean "regular expression without writing code"? If we are to write a regular expression we are to write code. Or I miss something? The ISSN conversion will help us detect errors via tracking categories. I am not sure we can also detect tings inside external links. -- Magioladitis (talk) 17:48, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
Hang in there, bud. ((u|Checkingfax)) {Talk} 15:32, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
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Checkingfax Thanks!! -- Magioladitis (talk) 15:54, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
I am giving an interview to ERA Corfu on Monday about the 15 years of Wikipedia. -- Magioladitis (talk) 12:13, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
Success. -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:52, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
Fram of the diffs you displayed at Bgwhite's page are OK. Error 64 (i.e. Link equal to linktext) is cleaned regularly by all AWB bots and not only. FrescoBot does this as sole task. -- Magioladitis (talk) 10:03, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
Bgwhite yes I meant "with no other fixes as AWB does". Language problem here :) Frescobot does many things. -- Magioladitis (talk) 11:34, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
This is the problem I am trying to describe: We have different approaches of what we expect from bots here: Some people would like bots to do "all in one run" to save runs and energy. Some would like bots "to combine significant and insignificant tasks" where the definition insignificant can also vary from who tell it. Some other would like "the edit summary to describe exactly what the bot did". Some other would like "the bot to do only what it was supposed to do". Some of these wishes overlap, some other contradict. I do not have answers here. I just underline the problem. Moreover, CHECKWIKI right now has 100+ errors. Do we expect 100 different scripts with 100 different skip conditions? -- Magioladitis (talk) 11:53, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
You evidently do some really good work with automated fixes. Sorry you are getting hassled for some mirror errors or unnecessary edits. If we tossed everyone that made an necessary edit there would be few users left. Legacypac (talk) 10:47, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
GoingBatty, et al. New skip conditions can be found in User:Yobot/CatsCheck. They need some testing but right now I am still under restrictions, so if we are to save some time, please someone start testing this. I'll be around for questions. -- Magioladitis (talk) 20:06, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
GoingBatty check your emails. -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:57, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
AWB 5.7.0.0 SVN 11328 (2015-07-14 19.56.59 Since error reporting for AWB is now virtually impossible, can I tell you of the following: On the skip pulldown screen, the Text area has 'contains' and 'doesn't contain' boxes to fill in. It used to be the case that doing cut and paste into these fields resulted in properly sized and thus readable content. For the last several months, this is no longer the case. Now the font from the cut location is used and this can result in the 'contains' and 'doesn't contains' fields being unreadable. Example: do a cut from an article name or a section name. Fixing this would be helpful Hmains (talk) 00:39, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
Hmains try to download 5.8.5.0 and tell me if it works. -- Magioladitis (talk) 07:43, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
Hmains we did no changes that woudld affect settings files. Perhaps Reedy knows something more. -- Magioladitis (talk) 16:48, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
Hmains your words make me happy. -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:47, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
I've removed AutoEd from your vector.js file. I don't want you to be tempted. Best you stay away from that. Bgwhite (talk) 09:59, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
Magioladitis, MSGJ (the blocking admin) has indicated that he has no problem with you being unblocked on the condition that you only edit your user talk page and the Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Magioladitis discussion. Can you agree with these conditions and after the unblock please not edit any other page until the original block would have expired (00:00, 15 February 2016)? Fram (talk) 10:11, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
Fram can you please grant me permission to be allowed to edit bot's talk page and subpages? I would like to be able to reply in comments there and also test a piece of code that could resolve the problem of the "useless edits" when fixing deprecated parameters. I would liek to post a piece of code for testing. -- Magioladitis (talk) 18:08, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
Xaosflux thanks. I already have a a patch that will solve the main problem of not skipping when no deprecated/invalid parameters have removed thanks to Rjwilmsi. I also asked Reedy and I hope AWB will soon provide an efficient built-in way to skip pages if no categories have changes as Earwig suggested. This action will fix a long-standing problem in this direction. -- Magioladitis (talk) 19:15, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
So the initial unblock conditions were about AWB or for any tool in general (including AutoEd)? I would like this to be made clear just for the record I guess. -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:26, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
User:SMcCandlish please check WP:AWB/TR and make the appropriate corrections to match the renaming of the templates you performed today. Thanks, Magioladitis (talk) 07:58, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
User:SMcCandlish you are right. I'll work with in next week. -- Magioladitis (talk) 10:36, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
Good_tag ← Bad_tag1, Bad_tag2, ... , Bad_tagN
order, since alphbetizing it would then serve a purpose.A few "gotchas" to watch out for:
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Yesterday AWB on my PC was working fine. Today I receive this error. So what do I do now? Thanks Hmains (talk) 04:49, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
Exception: | `OperationFailedException` |
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Message: | `Operation 'login' ended with result 'NeedToken'. Xml: '<?xml version="1.0"?><api><warnings><login xml:space="preserve">Fetching a token via action=login is deprecated. Use action=query&meta=tokens&type=login instead.</login></warnings><login result="NeedToken" token="24974bd33f061b415d96d6efc19de13056bd60e3+\" cookieprefix="enwiki" sessionid="4vn06mtqpiu3qbtsnhn5m1e5jhm4nurl" /></api>'` |
Call stack: | at WikiFunctions.API.ApiEdit.CheckForErrors(String xml, String action) at WikiFunctions.API.ApiEdit.Login(String username, String password, String domain) at WikiFunctions.Profiles.AWBProfilesForm.PerformLogin(String username, String password) |
@Reedy and Rjwilmsi: Because I am not at home. -- Magioladitis (talk) 18:48, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
Welcome back, brother Magioladitis. ((u|Checkingfax)) {Talk} 00:43, 17 February 2016 (UTC)
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Checkingfax thank you very much!! Nice to see you again. -- Magioladitis (talk) 00:44, 17 February 2016 (UTC)
Hi Magioladitis. The two articles I posted about at AN are still being edited by Yobot, adding blank spaces (diff 1 and diff 2). Please can you take a look and fix as needed? Let me know on my talkpage if you have an issue with me raising these with you. Thanks. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 10:37, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
I noticed a problem on this page... not enough kittens!
The Quixotic Potato (talk) 10:54, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
Dear Admin, For the second time we are trying to edit the Kurdish author Twana Amin's biography, but each time we are trying to do so someone deleting the editing. I don't understand the reason behind deleting the biography? Yesterday, I edited the name of the author's publication, yet was deleted today! Kindly, give us some advice to how and what to do in-order to include the name of the books that has been published along with the references. Thank you for your time and understanding. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Twana amin (talk • contribs) 12:54, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
I've temporarily denied Yobot access to Long division (((bots|deny=Yobot))) because it was corrupting layout. Yobot version was 11915.
In section 2.3 Mixed mode long division the sum quite correctly has multiple equals signs at the foot of each column of working to show that the work was complete. Yobot misunderstood this to be an incorrectly aligned heading and attempted so sort things out. If there is not a simple fix, can you check that I've correctly blocked Yobot, if possible the block should be on the section rather than as at present the whole page.
I see no reason to block Yobot generally, so I've put this feedback here.
Thanks, Martin of Sheffield (talk) 11:51, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
Martin of Sheffield thanks for the heads up. I tried to fix the page yesterday by using code and pre tags to explicitly avoid the areas in question bu I was not satisfied by the result. I think probably Frietjes could help of someone else. I'll come back to that later today. -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:47, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
<source>...</source>
or <pre>...</pre>
, but the markup inside the blocks would be mangled. Frietjes (talk) 14:52, 22 February 2016 (UTC)Frietjes Done. I had this trick in mind to be honest. I wonder if this would be enough. -- Magioladitis (talk) 16:02, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
Hi Magioladitis! While working on adding ((WikiProject banner shell)) to talk pages, I've stumbled across a few Yobot errors from 2010 (!) like this edit that accidentally broke the template while adding a WikiProject. Just wanted to let you know in case there's a bug to be fixed in AWB. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 18:04, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
GoingBatty We can always try to duplicate it. -- Magioladitis (talk) 23:36, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
Check 1: The bug was fixed or it is caused by the plugin: [76]. -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:27, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
Hi Mags. On Planned Parenthood Yobot just added a <references /> tag at the bottom of the page just above the categories here when a ((Reflist))
template already existed up the page in the References section.
I have removed the HTML references tag. Cheers! ((u|Checkingfax)) {Talk}
08:20, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
((u|Checkingfax)) {Talk}
08:28, 23 February 2016 (UTC)Checkingfax check the very last line under the categories before my edit. Yobot only moved it above the categories. -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:29, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
((u|Checkingfax)) {Talk}
08:31, 23 February 2016 (UTC)Checkingfax Yobot can't deal with duplicated references tag at the moment. A fix is underway.
Thanks again! -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:38, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
((u|Checkingfax)) {Talk}
09:00, 23 February 2016 (UTC)Hi Magioladitis, I am reaching out to you as someone who has edited the Maritz LLC page in the past (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maritz,_LLC). I have submitted an edit to the page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Maritz,_LLC) and was wondering if you wouldn't mind reviewing and incorporating the proposed changes due to a COI. Please let me know if you have any questions about the proposed revisions. MadisonfromStanding (talk) 19:13, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
Hey, so I spent a lot of time emptying Category:Infobox book image param needs updating last year, and more recently Category:Infobox football biography image param needs updating. I mostly used AWB to navigate faster, and made the changes to bare filename manually. In any case, I was assuming this kind of infobox image syntax maintenance category was in use more widely, but now I see it is not. So I'm wondering, do you think it's appropriate to add this function to other infoboxes like ((Infobox television)), which is set up for bare filenames but is used in a lot of articles with the "old" linked syntax? I guess what I'm getting at is whether or not this kind of thing should be systematically corrected across Wikipedia, along the lines of deprecated parameters. And that would tell me if it's really appropriate to be using AWB to do it. What do you think?— TAnthonyTalk 17:39, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
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This page Asmex_Digital was marked as an orphan by User:Yobot for not being linked to any article. The article has been sufficiently linked except I'm getting it wrong here. Please I'll love this resolved. Daisybest (talk) 07:00, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
Hi Magioladitis. Your bot Yobot shouldn't replace ((incomplete section))
by ((expand list))
, as it recently did in ♯JusticeForFlint, unless it can make sure that the badge actually refers to a list. Regards, --PanchoS (talk) 17:52, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
PanchoS Bug fixed! Thanks for the heads up. -- Magioladitis (talk) 18:10, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
You are again making large numbers of cosmetic edits such as [77], using AWB from your main account, at a rate far too high to allow for any serious manual review. WP:CITE states that "citations appear in a single section containing only the <references /> tag or the ((reflist)) template. " There is no consensus to replace all instances of the former with the latter. — Carl (CBM · talk)
CBM I have not finished editing that page. This page has duplicated reflists. I am on it. Thanks for the heads up. -- Magioladitis (talk) 15:06, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
I did not change any style since there was a reflist already in the page. -- Magioladitis (talk) 15:27, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
CBM what do you mean? It was not incorrect. It was not perfect. It is not less appropriate that I went and fixed the page and added missing fields. I can't see everything in one move. I am human like you are. If you check my last 1000 edits they are all about fixing duplicated references tags.I still have 1,500 pages to fix. -- Magioladitis (talk) 15:44, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
And sometimes it is difficult to spot the hidden duplicated tag. -- Magioladitis (talk) 15:47, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
CBM do you agree that I did not change the citations display style though? -- Magioladitis (talk) 16:01, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
This small trick I used made it easier for me to spot the duplicated tag via the browser. :) -- Magioladitis (talk) 16:06, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
I used various tricks to reduce the list. Please do not stick in only a few edits. -- Magioladitis (talk) 17:14, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
Jonesey95 I think Carl says that these edits are not cosmetic but were to change the citation style. Cosmetic would imply they did not change anything. -- Magioladitis (talk) 18:40, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
Jonesey95 still you are right. I should be more careful. At least I could have written a better edit summary. -- Magioladitis (talk) 18:42, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
In fact I was hoping that the people they have these pages in their watchlists would have checked them for duplicated references sections. This would have save me time from fixing 5000 pages. Please everyone, check the pages in your watchlists more thoroughly. This would help everyone in the project. -- Magioladitis (talk) 18:44, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
Jonesey95 the claimed violation is not of "cosmetic edits" type. Otherwise, we would not be discussing WP:CITE. The complain and the title are not consistent. That's what I am saying. -- Magioladitis (talk) 18:53, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
That's team spirit. -- Magioladitis (talk) 19:15, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
...Here: Talk:Church_of_the_Firstborn_of_the_Fulness_of_Times#Merger_proposal.--Hodgdon's secret garden (talk) 17:39, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
The Teamwork Barnstar | |
Thanks for your help on Passenger pigeon. I hope a WP:FA can't be far behind. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 17:26, 4 March 2016 (UTC) |
Thanks! -- Magioladitis (talk) 05:54, 5 March 2016 (UTC)
Hi Mags. I gave Survivor a wikitable tweaking too. Ping me back. Cheers! ((u|Checkingfax)) {Talk}
20:58, 5 March 2016 (UTC)
Please don't incorrect the definition list items.46.226.188.202 (talk) 22:44, 5 March 2016 (UTC)
I see that you removed the ISSN details from the article on Louis Paulhan as well as the same reference in List of firsts in aviation. (The same source, without an ISSN, is also used in Milan Rastislav Štefánik.) I have the actual magazine - L'Ami de Pézenas, numéro double 54-55, Apr-Nov 2010 - in front of me, and the stated number is as I gave, 140-0084. But you're right, it doesn't compute. Extracts from recent issues of L'Ami de Pézenas can be found on the website of Les Amis de Pézenas. It has issues going back to December 2012. None of these extracts show an ISSN though there is a CPPAP No. 0214G91686 issued by the fr:Commission paritaire des publications et des agences de presse - this is official, but amounts to no more, I believe, than a recognition that it is a registered periodical for postage purposes.
I have discovered that there is a valid ISSN 6140-0084, but I do not know what it is.
Whether any of this actually matters I'm not sure. Certainly, the reference citation is valid without an ISSN, but it would be good to be complete if possible. Do you have access to a decent ISSN search facility that could delve into this. Emeraude (talk) 13:00, 5 March 2016 (UTC)
Jonesey95 thanks. I tried to retrieve the correct one by myself with no success. -- Magioladitis (talk) 00:13, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
Hi Mags. I was at an Edit-a-Thon in San Francisco Saturday and I noticed Yobot came along and made this edit after the affair.
You may notice that Yobot moved the DEFAULTSORT: down the page, then added a redundant birth date and living person category below it.
This is because the categories were rem'd out with colons and the publisher did not know to un-rem them (remove the colons)—which I have since done.
I was puzzled about the extra categories, but then saw Yobot was involved, so here I am, my friend. All is well now, but I thought you should know about this situation. Cheers! ((u|Checkingfax)) {Talk}
11:16, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
Yobot created a URL-wikilink citation error with this edit. It might be better to replace with |ISSN=xxxx-xxxx
after checking to see if an ISSN is already present. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:57, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
The article was fixed and removed from my list. -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:39, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
There was a code glitch on today's ISBN/ISSN fixes. I updated AWB's code and I fixed most pages not fixed on AWB's run manually. -- Magioladitis (talk) 10:26, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
Hello, I'm ReferenceBot. I have automatically detected that some edits performed by you may have introduced errors in referencing. They are as follows:
Please check these pages and fix the errors highlighted. If you think this is a false positive, you can report it to my operator. Thanks, ReferenceBot (talk) 00:27, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
((cite manual)) is now an alias to ((cite book)), and is still valid. Shouldn't Yobot leave it alone, or at least include an explanation in the Subject/headline? Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz Username:Chatul (talk) 19:02, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
I have added an error-tracking category to the ((ISBNT)) template. It displays a red error message and adds a tracking category. It should make it easier for editors to find and fix these erroneous ISBNs. For an example, see this revision of Fantastic Four. – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:56, 11 March 2016 (UTC)
Jonesey95 Thanks! That is very very useful. -- Magioladitis (talk) 07:20, 11 March 2016 (UTC)
Take a look at History of the Jews in Singapore, which is on the ISBN error list from CheckWiki. The format "ISBN 0-8108-5347-7: 279 pages" appears to cause articles to show up on the list, but the ISBN is valid, the ISBN link renders just fine, and the link is clickable and working.
Can CheckWiki be adjusted to ignore this false positive? – Jonesey95 (talk) 08:06, 11 March 2016 (UTC)
Jonesey95 Semicolon has to be used instead of colon. -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:12, 11 March 2016 (UTC)
Jonesey95 Moreover, having the number of the total book pages in the references it is uncommon. -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:14, 11 March 2016 (UTC)
In this edit, Yobot changed a misplaced isbn=
to a loose ISBN. In the next edit it reduced a double space to single. A better edit would have been this. --Redrose64 (talk) 21:13, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
Yobot has twice reverted my attempts to apply a decade birth category to Confucius per consensus at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2015_May_22#6th-century_BC_births. Can you please fix the bot so that it complies with the CfD? Le Deluge (talk) 15:50, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
@Rjwilmsi: -- Magioladitis (talk) 16:09, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
T129922. -- Magioladitis (talk) 21:03, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
Le Deluge does this rule apply for BC deaths too? -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:00, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
Le Deluge is there a category for every XYs BC births? -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:02, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
I left a comment at Wikipedia_talk:People_by_year#What_is_the_appropriate_category_to_add_to_a_person_born_BC.3F asking for specifics. -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:09, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
[81] postdlf (talk) 13:20, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
Re this edit: I can see the logic of the bot creating a DEFAULTSORT which is the article title without any diacriticals, and it seems very useful for placenames etc, but it has the disadvantage of giving the impression that someone has thought about the DEFAULTSORT for the article and in this case decided to sort it on forename rather than surname.
For article titles which are personal names a DEFAULTSORT created by removing diacriticals from article title will almost always not be correct.
A few ideas:
Titles starting with "The " or "A " or "An " are another category where an automatically-added defaultsort is likely to be wrong, but are much less likely to include diacriticals and be dealt with by the bot.
I do quite a bit of stub-sorting, and one of the sets of stubs I pick out to work on are those where the DEFAULTSORT is absent or wrong, shown when they misfile in Category:Stubs: mostly these two groups, personal names sorting on forename and leading definite or indefinite articles. PamD 08:55, 24 March 2016 (UTC)
PamD thanks for the heads up. The problem s that the page was not identified as a biographical page due to the lack of appropriate categories, infoboxes, etc. We can refine this even more. I'll check. -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:54, 24 March 2016 (UTC)
PamD not all subcategories of people are about people. Thaat's the main problem I face all these years in order ot make a super-optimal code. -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:56, 24 March 2016 (UTC)
Under Yobot, you fixed articles using AWB. What is that? Regards, John sheens (talk) 08:06, 26 March 2016 (UTC)
Dear talk page stalkers,
I need your help to deal with the last remaining pages of Wikipedia:CHECKWIKI/078 dump. @Redrose64, Jonesey95, and GoingBatty: et al.!!! -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:32, 26 March 2016 (UTC)
Hi. I came across Union of People's Democracy, recently started article. I had previously understood that ELD was a front organized by the Socialist Party of Greece and that the Socialist Party later added 'ELD' to its name more as a symbolic gesture. But this article seems to describe the ELD as a political party. Any idea whether they should they be merged? --Soman (talk) 20:00, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
Hi Yobot / Magioladitis! The article Martin vom Brocke is no longer an orphan. Will you change this "issue" information of March 17 or should I do that myself? --DownUnder36 (talk) 12:49, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
I have undone your edits to Phantoms in the Brain. The templates you removed are links to Wikidata statements for this book, and allow the information to be maintained in one less place. You can read about it here. I take your question mark edit summary to mean you didn't know what you were dealing with; maybe next time you should ask first. —swpbT 13:22, 28 March 2016 (UTC)
swpb no it's not like that. The infobox should be used without any parameters and the parameters to be auto-generated instead fo explicitly requests specific properties from Wikidata. The infobox should be doing this for you. -- Magioladitis (talk) 14:03, 28 March 2016 (UTC)
In addition to PamD: Wikidata#Phase_3 has not yet started. -- Magioladitis (talk) 14:08, 28 March 2016 (UTC)
swpb No. You should not be addding wikidata properties randomly till we sort it out otherwise bots, programs, etc. will come into trouble. I arrived to this page by a tracking categories syaing that the isbn number was not a number as expected. -- Magioladitis (talk) 14:29, 28 March 2016 (UTC)
I already did. "Phase 3 not started." -- Magioladitis (talk) 14:43, 28 March 2016 (UTC)
Being too hasty has many problems: First of all, there still no option to edit the Wikidata item directly. Moreover, Wikidata at the moment allows mutliple ISBNs to be saved while infoboxes need only one, usually that of the first edition. -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:18, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
And now I have to fix ISBN errors in Wikidata too... Especially because some data was imported form English before we fix all ISBN data in English Wikipedia. (Example) Why??? Can't we please make a real plan instead of just creating more noise by pilling more and more errors? -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:36, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
VIAFbot added ISBN info in Wikidata from various Wikipedias back in 2013 without making any checks whether the ISBN was a valid or not. -- Magioladitis (talk) 15:11, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
Category:Pages using isbn values obtained from wikidata. At least I am in Hackathon and maybe we can deal with this. -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:14, 31 March 2016 (UTC)
Greetings! I noticed that you've contributed to articles on Broadcom Corporation, Avago Technology, and/or the new merged entity Broadcom Limited in the past. I'm pinging you to see if you wanted to add an opinion to a deletion debate on a disambiguation page (Broadcom (disambiguation)). If so, the debate is here. Thanks! Talk to SageGreenRider 23:34, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
Thank for the heads up. -- Magioladitis (talk) 05:25, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
I see you added an ISBN for The A.B.C. Murders by Agatha Christie. For the articles about books she wrote before ISBN came into being (about 1970), other editors have left that blank. The infobox generally has information on the first edition of the novel. I am not aware of rules on this one way or the other; it is just something I noticed for books printed before ISBN existed. If there is a Publication history section, then the later editions with ISBN are listed with it, occasionally (e.g., Dickens The Old Curiosity Shop, while those by Austen, Bronte, Alcott, Twain, Harper Lee in 1960 skip ISBN altogether in the articles). Just wondering. --Prairieplant (talk) 22:35, 31 March 2016 (UTC)
Prairieplant cc: Bgwhite you are right but in fact what I did is just to make the problem visible to make a point. If you check the page before and after my edit nothing changed in the visual outcome. Infobox book was recently added to autogenerate ISBN codes using Wikidata. I think this is not a good idea and this is an example. -- Magioladitis (talk) 05:17, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
Prairieplant take a look at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Books. -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:23, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
Hello Magioladitis,
I kind of picked you out of the Wiki ether to ask this question of you, and simply because Yobot did an edit on a page I created. I'm still learning with Wiki, so hope this isn't too dim a question, and something I should probably be able to sort myself...
I recently spent some time creating a page for Oshkosh's Logistic Vehicle System Replacement (LVSR), calling the page Oshkosh Logistic Vehicle System Replacement (LVSR).
In the big outside world the Logistic Vehicle System Replacement (LVSR) is the US Marines replacement for the Logistic Vehicle System (LVS). Obviously I guess! There is currently a Wiki page for LVS, although to be pedantic, it is incorrectly named Logistics Vehicle System when the vehicle is actually contracted as the Logistic Vehicle System. But minor I suspect.
There was mention of Logistic Vehicle System Replacement (LVS) in the Logistics Vehicle System (LVSR) page, but I trimmed this to essentials when I created and linked to the new LVSR page.
The problem I have, and can't sort, is that if I search Wiki for LVSR by acronym (which most will do as this is what the vehicle is referred to as) there is a redirect in place for LVSR that takes the searcher to the LVS page. Yes, you can then link to the LVSR page, but it's got to be better to go directly to LVSR when searching LVSR. How do I get rid of that redirect? Maybe I can't, and maybe only an Administrator can?
Grateful for your thoughts/comments.Wolpat (talk) 16:19, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
Thanks Magioladitis. I sussed that out just before reading your message :-).
Thanks again Wolpat (talk) 17:29, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
You corrected the ISBN number I gave. I have changed it to what I first used. I trust you agree? Webb, D.A., Parnell, J. and Doogue, D. 1996. An Irish Flora. ISBN 0-85221-131-7 and: Parnell, J. and Curtis, T. 2012.Webb's An Irish Flora. ISBN 978-185918-4783 Osborne 13:15, 5 April 2016 (UTC)Osborne 13:20, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
Nice job. -- Magioladitis (talk) 20:51, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
Hello Magioladitis,
I surmise that you are responsible for assisting in returning the page in question to it's original content after something happened during editing and the page was jumbled up. Thank you. However, can I continue to edit the page properly or is there an issue with my editing? Richard Mwangi (talk) 18:37, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
Hi I've left you a message on your "Awards" page. Realizing just now that I should have left it here for you. Hoping to hearing from you! SeaBeeDee 16:13, 7 April 2016 (UTC) SeaBeeDee 16:13, 7 April 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by SeaBeeDee (talk • contribs)
Hi, I don't know if Yobot is still doing this, but nobody's noticed that spare 1=
until now. --Redrose64 (talk) 23:02, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
Redrose64 there were 113 pages in the database with |1=
in Multiple issues. I removed it from all places to avoid problems till we fix the bug. Still the bug will be fixed. -- Magioladitis (talk) 06:21, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
rev 12001 -- Magioladitis (talk) 11:00, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
He Magioladitis, why is Yobot adding WP Women to all articles on same sex marriages? That seems a bit wide a scope! L.tak (talk) 10:47, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
L.tak The edit summary means that that the page has a WikiProject Women related tag but it does not imply that the bot necessarily added a new tag. -- Magioladitis (talk) 10:52, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
Redrose64 this is how my tagging system works to avoid duplicate tags. If someone has a better tagging system is welcome to take over the bot tasks. I 've asked other people in the past. -- Magioladitis (talk) 20:39, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
Tagging completed. -- Magioladitis (talk) 11:01, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
Just so I don't make the same mistake in the future, what exactly does this fix entail? Thanks!—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); April 8, 2016; 19:02 (UTC)
Ezhiki Haha. I was familiar with the mistake because I once used the Greek X myself :) Then I had to fix an error I cause by myself. -- Magioladitis (talk) 19:35, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
I am unable to determine why the following ISBNs are showing up on the CheckWiki ISBN list:
These ISBNs do not appear to have special characters in them and do not give an error on the Special:Booksources page. The first and last one link to valid works in worldcat.org.
And I wonder why this one does not give an error at Special:Booksources but turns up in the CheckWiki error list. The check digit works. I think the CheckWiki test should be the same as the one at Special:Booksources, so we may need to modify one or the other.
Any ideas? – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:11, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
@NicoV: for that. -- Magioladitis (talk) 16:14, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
Jonesey95 I see in International Standard Book Number that no country has 9999 prefix for instance. -- Magioladitis (talk) 16:16, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
9100000-9399999 is a non reserved area. -- Magioladitis (talk) 16:19, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
Not any is it "Do not make insignificant or inconsequential edits" but it seems wrong – not a stub, or anything else, does not need two line breaks before. In addition, it always seem wrong to add a break after ((clear))
– it already contains the correct vertical space and doesn't need more. Mary McAllen (talk) 07:47, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
Mary McAllen And yes, I know to which page you refer to because it was in my today's to-do list but please in the future provide specific links. It would be easier for both of us and it will help me fix similar problem when they occur. I already thanked you for the fix. -- Magioladitis (talk) 07:50, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
Mary McAllen moreover, the portal tag should be placed in the references section that's why the bor moved it there. -- Magioladitis (talk) 07:52, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
Hi. I saw you in list of Wikipedia:WikiProject Greece/Members and recognised your name from somewhere, so I thought you might help. Me and @The Replicator: have been discussing this announcement from epo.gr regarding the greek parliament having suspended the 2015–16 Greek Football Cup. However, none of us speak the language (and google translate is no good) so I wonder if you can help translate and clear the context of this announcement? We have been discussing at User talk:The Replicator#Greek cup regarding this edit if the tournament will be resumed, or if this is only the Greek Football Association saying that they want it resumed to put pressure on greek parliament? Any help would be appreciated. Qed237 (talk) 18:00, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
Qed237 Happy to hear that! -- Magioladitis (talk) 06:42, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
Hi, if you got time for it, please take a look at the article about Oba Chandler. Any improvements are welcomed. Thanks.--BabbaQ (talk) 17:10, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
Hi, Mags. Greetings. I hope all is well with you. In this edit you deleted an interlanguage link that was written as an external link, which is a good thing, but I believe you should have taken things a step further and converted the external link to an interlanguage wikilink using the ((ILL))
template like this instead of just walking away leaving things totally delinked. What do you think? Cheers! ((u|Checkingfax)) {Talk}
06:30, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
Checkingfax I deleted it because it was used a a reference and wikipedia can't be a reference to itself. Ofcourse, to link to other projects is welcome when it is done in a sensible way. -- Magioladitis (talk) 06:33, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
((ILL))
is being deprecated for ((ILLM))
, so I switched it over to that ILL template. Cheers! ((u|Checkingfax)) {Talk}
06:59, 15 April 2016 (UTC)Hi Mags........ Good morning. Kindly look in the Coordinates of Nasra, Ranaghat, Gopalpur,Taherpur andParbbatipur of west bengal. Clarify me, are the Five towns have the same coordinates? The population of Nasra also differs in the text as well as in the picture as 10560 and 10360.which is correct? --கி.மூர்த்தி (talk) 23:55, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
Hi there,. Thanks for edit my article Association of Muslim Professionals, India, but your Yobot marked it as orphan. Please help and guide me how to remove it. Thanks, Fahadpathan
Now resolved. Page has now incoming links. -- Magioladitis (talk) 07:25, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
How you did that, please let me know?? Fahadpathan F.P. 07:27, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
Fahad pathan Check "What links here" on the Tools menu on the left. If page has incoming links is not an orphan anymore. -- Magioladitis (talk) 07:29, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
Magioladitis thanks a lot for the help. Fahad pathan F.P. 07:33, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
I saw you changed the format of some ISSN numbers ([82]). I actually used an automated tool ([83]) to add those, so in case the format is wrong, it may be useful to contact the creator of that tool to make him aware of the possible wrong formatting. There's a user talk page linked on the website.
Pieceofmetalwork (talk) 17:07, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
|issn=
in citation templates can be entered with or without a hyphen. It works fine both ways. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:41, 16 April 2016 (UTC)Still the correct format is with hyphens and using correct syntax helps us spot wrong numbers. -- Magioladitis (talk) 19:44, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
Hello. Can you explain this edit to me? Why don't you fix the link instead of removing it? Thanks and regards, Biwom (talk) 07:20, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
I do no treat all cases the same way. See this for instance. Of course anyone is welcome to correct me. -- Magioladitis (talk) 07:35, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
Biwom yes, I read it very roughly since I do not know Spanish. I think if it is to add this link would be as extra information in the "list of..." page above. -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:20, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
Biwom I ll NicoV how no to mark edits with WCleaner as minor. Thanks for the heads up. I have not noticed that all edits were marked as minor. -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:38, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
@NicoV: How can I mark an edit as not minor? -- Magioladitis (talk) 07:20, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
T133033 Here ya go. --QEDK (T ☕ C) 12:16, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
I've been trying to use AWB with a very large list of articles (~600,000), but it freezes whenever I try to load the list file. Is there any way around this other than splitting up the list? ~ RobTalk 05:17, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
BU Rob13 how do you want to use it? -- Magioladitis (talk) 07:42, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
This concerns this edit.
The bot tagged Talk:Park Building (Cleveland, Ohio) for the Chicago wikiproject, a move that doesn't make sense to me; the Park Building (Cleveland, Ohio) article has nothing to do with Chicago. It doesn't even mention Chicago aside from its architecture category, which bears the name "Chicago" merely because the style originated there. Was the bot working from a list that project members supplied (in which case I need to contact them), or was it relying on other indicators? Nyttend (talk) 03:07, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
Nyttend Tagging was done based on categorisation exclusively following a bot request. Page is in Chicago school (architecture). -- Magioladitis (talk) 07:42, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
@TonyTheTiger: who requested the tagging. -- Magioladitis (talk) 14:35, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
@TonyTheTiger: @Nyttend: Unfortunately, I finished the tagging before the questions are raised. What to tag depends on the wikiproject. Some Wikiprojects have narrow scope so other very wide. -- Magioladitis (talk) 19:47, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
Hi!
Yobot breaks the page layout at Cohomology by replacing <p> tags in list entries with line breaks. See this diff. —Tobias Bergemann (talk) 13:20, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
Tobias Bergemann Thanks for the heads up. I tried a workaround. Tell me if you are satisfied with it. -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:30, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
I am happy I helped. -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:47, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
Hello! Prince Oscar of Sweden redirects currently to Prince Oscar Bernadotte. I think that the redirect should perhaps be moved to Prince Oscar, Duke of Skåne, because he is a current member of the Swedish Royal Family and he is or at least will be better known as Prince Oscar of Sweden by public than a late son of King Oscar II. I'm asking you for a second opinion, because I'm not sure about this and you have edited Prince Oscar Bernadotte recently. What do you think: should we keep the redirect as it is now or move it? --Editor FIN (talk) 12:06, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
You have blanked the page without any explanation, so I revert it.Xx236 (talk) 10:07, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
I believe this [84] meets RD3. --Peter Sam Fan 15:04, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
Hi, can you delete this pesky redirect. Thanks. Quis separabit? 16:15, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
Rms125a@hotmail.com done. -- Magioladitis (talk) 16:18, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
Hi. Can you leave the removal of persondata to the bot? Is there benefit in you doing these? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 10:54, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
User:İnternion/twinkleoptions.js and User:İnternion/CSD log My request has been marked for deletion --İnternion (talk) 12:13, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
İnternion done. -- Magioladitis (talk) 12:14, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
Hi, I greatly appreciate your help with Biofuel Research Journal page. Given your invaluable experience and background reg. various Wikipedia projects including Academic Journals, I am certain that it would be very easy for you to verify the authenticity of the content. Thank you! Meisam tab (talk) 05:23, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
Page deleted via AfD. -- Magioladitis (talk) 12:23, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
I mainly converted tags such as refimprove and primary sources to their BLP versions on biographical articles about living people. -- Magioladitis (talk) 15:38, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
Hello Magioladitis. I have a quick question for you since you're a long-time Wikipedia editor and an administrator ... and since earlier today you moved a 'use dmy dates' template that I had recently placed on the edit page for Marco Amenta; I had it on the first line and you moved it to below 'blp' and 'cleanup' templates. Two months ago, another editor who was also an administrator, did the exact reverse and moved to the very top a 'use dmy dates' that I had placed on a third line below two other already existing templates. He/she commented that the template belonged at the top. If you have a moment, any chance of clarifying the correct placement of the 'Use dmy/mdy dates' template? Obviously I would like to use them correctly ... and I can't find anything in Wikipedia:Help on the preferred sequence of the templates that are placed at the top of the edit page. Thanks in advance! - Xenxax (talk) 17:53, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
Xenxax Hi! My main concern was to fix the BLP tags. The logic of the program I use puts Multiple issues above 'Use dmy/mdy dates' templates. I do not think there is super formal rule of which to put above the other. -- Magioladitis (talk) 18:29, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
Xenxax take note that hatnotes are put on top of every other template because they do not directly refer to the article in question but they are there to help viewers to access other articles. -- Magioladitis (talk) 19:10, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
This AWB edit added two consecutive pipes. I fixed it by removing one of them. Oh, I see ((bias)) was removed by that edit. wbm1058 (talk) 17:36, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
wbm1058 Bias was retargeted in October 2015. The tag was incorecclty removed as duplicate of POV. Fixed now. Still need to fix the double pipe. -- Magioladitis (talk) 17:48, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
Bug reported: T134123 -- Magioladitis (talk) 17:51, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
Bug fixed: rev 12020 -- Magioladitis (talk) 05:58, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
It is very likely due to my citations but your cleanup doesn't appear to have completely worked. KJP1 (talk) 16:34, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
KJP1 fixed now. -- Magioladitis (talk) 18:22, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
Hello,
I have seen this edit by Yobot, and I have one question : is it intentional that Yobot added the References section after the navigation template? In MOS:SECTIONORDER, the References section comes before the navigation templates.
Regards --NicoScribe (talk) 15:02, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
NicoScribe it's impossible for a the bot to understand that this is a navbox and add the ref section above it. -- Magioladitis (talk) 15:24, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
Why don't you leave this to AWB bots, which can be filtered out in watchlists? Such edits [85] don't require human input and perhaps shouldn't be done with AWB. Materialscientist (talk) 22:59, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
Materialscientist there were cases that needed user attention. Maybe this one example did not. I did ~60% of the task by bot. At the same time I found a AWB bug and filled in two feature requests. I also had to update list of template redirects. There is still the problem of an editor who instead of tagging the pages tagged transcluded templates (approx. 160 templates!). So there were many things to be done manually. the task is over now. -- Magioladitis (talk) 23:22, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
AWB's general fixes can do most for the job. I reported a minor bug at T134057 and found some weird cases (for example [86]. [87]) that the conversion could not be performed. I did a database scan and there were about 15,000 pages with non-converted templates. I fixed about 5,000 manually and used bot for some thousand more. I also added a feature requests at T134065 to help this task. -- Magioladitis (talk) 23:23, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
Checking now I am done I see that it's true I could have done less by my account and leave more space to the bot. -- Magioladitis (talk) 23:30, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
rev 12011 fixes the bug issue. -- Magioladitis (talk) 19:52, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
hey Chat2jack (talk) 17:56, 3 May 2016 (UTC) |
hey Chat2jack (talk) 17:56, 3 May 2016 (UTC) |
Hi, see this edit - Yobot was aware of the existing ((WikiProject Women))
, since it modified it - yet it still added another one. --Redrose64 (talk) 13:55, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
Redrose64 there is some problem with API lately. I am aware. Till now my method was based on the checking the template transclusions. For some uknown reason sometimes the list of transclusions is not always accurate.-- Magioladitis (talk) 05:32, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
I'm concerned that you appear to be blindly removing all use of ignore-isbn-error and removing correct information about the source in the process. I'm assuming that the new category has prompted these edits so I've started a thread at Help talk:Citation Style 1#Category:CS1 maint: Ignored ISBN errors is being misused? to discuss.
TuxLibNit (talk) 17:56, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
Family trees need reliable sources to back them up per WP:V. Why have you been removing templates requesting such sources? -- PBS (talk) 11:50, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
PBS As far as I understand the tag should be added in articles and not in templates. Still if you think these family trees are unreferenced and unreliable they should be sent to TfD. -- Magioladitis (talk) 16:24, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
Any material lacking a reliable source directly supporting it may be removed and should not be restored without an inline citation to a reliable source. Whether and how quickly material should be initially removed for not having an inline citation to a reliable source depends on the material and the overall state of the article. In some cases, editors may object if you remove material without giving them time to provide references; consider adding a citation needed tag as an interim step. (It may be that the article contains so few citations that it is impractical to add specific citation needed tags, in which case consider tagging a section with ((unreferencedsection)), or the article with ((refimprove)) or ((unreferenced)).)
PBS I discovered your tagging when I tried to replace ((unreferencedsection)) with its BLP counterpart in articles about living people. -- Magioladitis (talk) 05:43, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
PBS I think that all pages that transclude unreferenced family trees should be tagged. -- Magioladitis (talk) 20:27, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
Hi Magioladitis !
Iberocoop has launched a translating contest to improve the content in other Wikipedia related to Ibero-American Culture.
We would love to have you on board :)
Please find the contest here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Translating_Ibero_-_America/Participants_2016
Hugs!--Anna Torres (WMAR) (talk) 15:06, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
Hi Magioladitis,
I'm new at wikipedia, I read the guidelines to write articles and I think all the info had references. "Yobot" deleted the page I edited https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monika_Zgustov%C3%A1, and reverted to a previous version. Can you explain me what was wrong? And how can I improve it? Aleexeey (talk) 15:51, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
Thanks! Sorry for my mistake :) Aleexeey (talk) 10:41, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
Do you know anybody that speaks Chinese? Mandarin Chinese would be better.
This is a great piece of vandalism. Bgwhite (talk) 09:16, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
Bgwhite lol. -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:19, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
...from ((mult)) to ((Multiple issues)). See DIFF. – wbm1058 (talk) 17:57, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
It appears that you deleted links to wikipedia sites in other languages. The information contained in wikipedia versions in different languages is not the same. Not even close. While I understand that one should quote the original source rather than a secondary source, that is not always possible. In this case, my language skills sufficed to bring information from a wikipedia page in another language to the English one; however, my language skills do not suffice to search for the original source. Is it really better to have no citation at all than to have a citation to a secondary source?Todaysaccount (talk) 14:02, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
Todaysaccount where exactly I did this? -- Magioladitis (talk) 14:30, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
Magioladitis where you deleted the references to the German and Russian editions of Wikipedia. For example, I took the Russian titles from the Russian Wikipedia page. This is not the same as taking them from the Russian equivalent of the US Library of Congress or the German National Library, both of which can be considered essentially infallible. The Russian version of Wikipedia is here a secondary source, which, I have cited because I am unable to find a primary source, (not because I tried and couldn't find it, but because I would not know where to begin to look). Todaysaccount (talk) 00:58, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
Hi,
I noticed that you re-introduced a new unreviewed article template on the page, even though it had been reviewed by an administrator previously. I removed the template.
Best,
mezil (talk) 14:39, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
I did not. -- Magioladitis (talk) 07:45, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
I thought you had stopped arriving at articles I'm working on. [88] Please don't start it again. SarahSV (talk) 17:17, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
SarahSV OK. I just fixed a mistake I introduced. I hope you are OK with that. I won't revisit this page. -- Magioladitis (talk) 18:44, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
When entering a players data like you did for Matt Pagnozzi. Please check to make sure that the player is retired. You didn't do that and he is retired. Going forward please do this. Aggiefan47 (talk) 13:13, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
I don't suppose you know how Danny Wells died (I could include 'no explanation has ever been offered as to the cause of his death', but someone will remove it, saying 'so what? we don't say what we don't know, only what we do know', and even ask what my source would be, asking me 'have you seen his death certificate?')
I've finally found how Christine Cavanaugh died - leukemia - but still no websites say how Danny Wells died. He died quite young, so he must have had some sort of illness. He couldn't have died of natural causes, which is a euphemism for merely dying of old age. Often, if and when a person dies, people see what their cause of death was. Ofcdeadbeat (talk) 13:56, 31 May 2016 (UTC)Ofcdeadbeat
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In the Skip Text Contains/Doesn't contain boxes, do you know of a way to code the following: Category:National Register of Historic Places in ? County, Arkansas, for example, where ? needs to be a wildcard denoting any string of characters at this location? Thanks Hmains (talk) 22:13, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
Hmains Enable regular expressions and use \[\[Category\:National Register of Historic Places in . County, Arkansas\]\]. -- Magioladitis (talk) 04:35, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
Hmains try \[\[Category\:National Register of Historic Places in [^\]]+ County, Arkansas\]\] but I suggest that you better use filters instead of Skip Text Contains/Doesn't contain boxes when it comes to categories. -- Magioladitis (talk) 06:18, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
Hey there. Our user names are similar and I think this message may have been for you. Cheers. Magnolia677 (talk) 21:55, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
I have a question (Need advice) regarding your revert, on Izkala's talk, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:58, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
@Frietjes: to help me on this! -- Magioladitis (talk) 11:11, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
Gerda Arendt Issue resolved. Thanks for communicating. -- Magioladitis (talk) 15:45, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
I noticed you edited a page for our institution and I need help from someone way more experienced than myself with Wikipedia. Can you help us out? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Socialmatt (talk • contribs) 22:46, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
So you saw that no one opposed my PROD of Wolf of Soissons and you deleted it but then restored it saying "to leave another admin to decide"
. I don't understand your hesitancy. Please explain. Chris Troutman (talk) 13:53, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
Chris troutman thanks for noticing it. I agree with the prod reasons that this info should not be presented as it is a real fact and as a standalone article. But I wonder whether the info in these 5(?) pages in questions could be merged and altered and still be in Wikipedia. Since I am in doubt (even a little bit) I got second thoughts and I ask for an extra pair of eyes. AfD could be a better way to clear this out. -- Magioladitis (talk) 14:17, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
Can you please run WPCleaner to update Wikipedia:WikiProject Check Wikipedia/ISBN errors? I want to see if changes I made to a few articles eliminate some false positives, and I don't have access to WPCleaner for a while. Thanks. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:44, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
Jonesey95 Done. Sorry for the late reply. -- Magioladitis (talk) 17:01, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
Hi there,
I noticed Talk:Gender bias on Wikipedia was missing some archived threads. Looks to have been because of this Yobot AWB edit back in January, in which it moved the cluebot archive code into the first discussion section, so cluebot archived that section, along with the code, then archived the archive in a sub-archive. It's fixed now, but it seems worth a message in case that run of AWB caused similar problems elsewhere? — Rhododendrites talk \\ 00:13, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
Rhododendrites. Thanks for the heads up. :) I'll have a look. -- Magioladitis (talk) 05:31, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
I am sorry to contact you I simply corrected a biblio listing Dialogues in Diversity Author is John K Grande You have credit for forward David peat and intro Ed Lucie-Smith but not author!! Why revert an untruth?? johnkgrande (talk) 11:24, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
There is a requested move at Talk:Ayşe Hafsa Sultan#Requested move 13 June 2016 on a page that you have edited in the past. You are invited to come to the talk page and give your input. OUR Wikipedia (not "mine")! Paine 01:58, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
Magioladitis, could you take a look at this? This IP was globally blocked in April 2016 with an expiration in October 2016 but has successfully made a number of (vandalistic) edits today. Thanks. General Ization Talk 14:35, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
See info below - and note the: locally disabled section:
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I'm working on, and almost done with, an update to handle a feature request I made, which can now be found at Wikipedia talk:AutoWikiBrowser/Feature requests/Archive 12#Allow on-site saving of lists. This will involve a new form (2 files), as well as some changes to a few other source files. What's the best way to handle it? עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 19:46, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
Od Mishehu how about using Phabricator to attach the files? -- Magioladitis (talk) 21:18, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
Hello, I'm ReferenceBot. I have automatically detected that some edits performed by you may have introduced errors in referencing. They are as follows:
Please check these pages and fix the errors highlighted. If you think this is a false positive, you can report it to my operator. Thanks, ReferenceBot (talk) 00:20, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
I already have different sources pointing at an article I've just created but the warning (template) hasn't disappeared yet. Can anyone help me? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joaofgaguiar (talk • contribs) 08:32, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
Hi Magioladitis, please take a look at the improvements I made to the page TACK Artist Group, it should really not be deleted I think. Thank You. (DFedrizzi (talk) 00:30, 22 June 2016 (UTC)),
Hello, You did some corrections in SHOW4ME article - then the guy Lasser Brain came there and just errased all information there. I checked other crowfunding platform which you can find here -Fan-funded_music - and all articles normal. nobody delete it . Why this guy just deleted it - it seems to me that he just want me to pay him to leave SHOW4ME page in a normal condition. That is not fair. Can you help me with that pls. I afraid to undo his corrections again - he has admin rights. I think he can block me or do something with my account
Thanks very much — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chiefkc18 (talk • contribs) 15:35, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
Hey! I need some help with a page you once edited. I'm looking for some expertise from someone more familiar with Wikipedia than I am. Can you help? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Socialmatt (talk • contribs) 22:45, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
The Arbitration Committee respectfully requests your attention, as an active member of the Bot Approvals Group, at this arbitration amendment request, which seeks to remove bot-related restrictions from Rich Farmbrough. Any comments would be appreciated. For the Arbitration Committee, Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 18:53, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
It's not helpful if Yobot adds a totally wrong DEFAULTSORT, as it did in this edit, and without mentioning it in the edit summary. I can see that the logic is "There's an accented character in the title, so I'll create a DEFAULTSORT with it anglicised, so it doesn't sort in the wrong place." But in this case, as in 99% of Biographical entries, the DEFAULTSORT is plain wrong - should of course be "Bumel, Michael", not "Michael Bumel" (and not "Michael Bümel" as it woud have been by default). Adding a wrong DEFAULTSORT might give an editor the impression that someone had carefully thought it through and decided that this was indeed a case where the DEFAULTSORT had to be that way round.
A suggestion: where the article is identifiably biographical and Yobot sees the need to add a DEFAULTSORT, also add a comment on the lines of <!-- Bot-added DEFAULTSORT: needs checking -->
and add a maintenance category of "Biographical DEFAULTSORTS to be checked by human editors". Or something on those lines. PamD 15:41, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
PamD the page was not identified as biographical. I think I can improve the logic. Thanks for the heads up. -- Magioladitis (talk) 16:34, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
I guess at this point, I don't keep the discussion going on the bot page, as that would presumably stop the bot again? Or does it only get stopped when you start a new topic? Anyway, stuff happens and everything on WP is fixable. I for one am most grateful for you operating the bot. Keep up your good work. Schwede66 07:57, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
Schwede66 Thanks for the comment and thanks for the heads up. I fixed the code. The problem was only n the case WPBIO and WPNZ co-existent and the one had politician-priority and the other had politician-importance. No WPBIO pages to fix anymore. -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:24, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
Why was this edit made? I don't see a reason for a default sort which is exactly the same as the name of the article, and in fact reason not to add that sortkey. --Izno (talk) 12:23, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
Only hyphens, apostrophes and periods/full stops punctuation marks should be kept in sort values. All other punctuation marks should be removed.Instead of removing the different dashes, we've been converting them. This has been done since before I started indexing in 2010 and it is the way the major indexing groups handle sorting. Bgwhite (talk) 18:22, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
Hi! Hope you have great time at Wikimania, saw your head at the CEE meeting on Facebook :) One personal question - can I refer to you by your name, not surname? Magioladitis has too many letters - so easy to write it wrongly :) --Edgars2007 (talk/contribs) 07:14, 26 June 2016 (UTC)
Why was this edit made? It was a simple little addition to the page, and I did a copy-and-paste of the exact title of the article to make sure that there was no mistake. And then the bot comes along and changes the title away from the exact match? I don't care that it was changed. I just want to understand why it changed the link from the exact title of the article to an inexact one. This makes no sense to me.Will102 (talk) 23:27, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
Dear Sir,
My name is Mukesh Chaurasia, I work for Edelweiss Tokio Life Insurance as Manager, Digital Marketing.
My company has no Wikipedia page, to create the same I have requested to write an article for my company.
I have also shared the references to justify the wiki presence of Edelweiss Tokio Life Insurance.
It’s almost 5-6 weeks but no one has picked the article.
I found your contact while seeking help, I request you to please guide how to proceed to get edelweiss tokio life presence on Wikipedia.
About Edelweiss:
Established in year 2011, Edelweiss Tokio Life Insurance Company Ltd is a new age IRDA approved life Insurance company in India. It is a joint venture between Edelweiss, a leading financial company in India and Tokio Marine, one of the fastest growing life insurance companies in Japan.
Best Regards, Risingguns 007 (talk) 08:41, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
This is an industry standard. Even the most used site on this Gunter Space Page. Ekspress is not a typo, is a transliteration of Russian. Why do you delete without doing the most basic research on the subject? Baldusi (talk) 13:30, 23 July 2016 (UTC)
Hi!
So, as I mentioned at the Hackathon and at Wikimania, my team is hard at work fixing issues with messy wiki syntax that Conetnt Translation creates.
One issue that we resolved is the adding of elements with attributes such as this: <span class="cx-segment" data-segmentid="24"></span>.
So:
These most often appear on <span> tags, but can also appear on other elements and in tables and File insertions.
As far as I can see, new articles that have such unnecessary syntax don't appear any longer, but there are some existing articles that do have them. I set up an AbuseFilter that catches edits that still have such tags, and I fix a few every week, but it makes sense to eliminate them completely.
If I'm not mistaken you run various cleanup bots with various rules. So you can add these:
If you find any interesting exceptions, I'd love to hear about it.
Thanks --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 06:32, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
Thanks Amir! I'll keep an eye on it! -- Magioladitis (talk) 18:37, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
Hi, can you explain why Yobot has just removed a category please? I can't figure it out. - Sitush (talk) 06:40, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
Sitush It was there twice. Check and you'll see the page is still in the category. -- Magioladitis (talk) 06:42, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
My understanding of stub tags is that they aren't supposed to be used as substitutes for categories. I.e., if someone is an "American economist stub" then that person should also be in the category for American economists or one of its children.
As for the other point - how would I go about modifying the code? I don't know the first thing about it, sorry. It's not mine; I picked it up from someone else. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 07:54, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
How do u know Sir James Carlisle? Musicislove2012 (talk) 18:20, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
In September, in cooperation with a team of people, I will be organising free online tutorials for Greek Educators. See video. If you are Greek, educator want to learn the basics on Wikipedia and how to use it in class, please register here. If the tutorials are successful, we will be organised a second part with more advanced sessions. -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:08, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
Hello Magioladitis, I just viewed your user page right now and it was great. I would also like to attend any of the Wikipedia event or tutorials.--Jamzy4 (talk) 08:31, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
Dear Wikipedia Admin, Kindly monitor this ([89])discussion. Thanks ---45.125.146.70 (talk) 10:14, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
Hello, I am pretty sure the actions of Yobot here https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Heather_Peace&diff=732191444&oldid=732139414 are wrong. I am going to undo them. I hope the bot does not re-do them then. If I missing something and there is a reason for the bot to behave this way, let me know. Codeandmusic (talk) 14:12, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
The correct edit summary is a long standing issue. Same problem fave BG19bot, Menobot, etc. I have created scripts for errors #99, #59 and #16. Same for three more errors that are now handled by Dexbot. Creating a correct edit summary for 110 errors is not that easy. Especially, because we load all the lists together for simplicity and to avoid multiple runs on the same pages. -- Magioladitis (talk) 16:19, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
JohnBlackburne Sometimes to fix a specific CHECKWIKI error is more complicated than it looks. In our current code some cases of the error are fixed in one place of the code and some other cases in another place. A recent example is the error 101 (Ordinal number found inside sup tags) which its fix is split in two places depending on whether the ordinal refers to a date or not. other errors are even more complicate to fix. Moreover, if we fix 5 errors in a single run then the edit summary would be huge. our first step is that we asked help someone to add AWB as tag to save us edit summary space. Can you help? T111663 -- Magioladitis (talk) 12:03, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
JohnBlackburne We would like a piece of code that will autogenerated edit summaries the same way WPCleaner does using a wiki located settings file. AWB is open source. So, anyone can help providing us this piece of code. -- Magioladitis (talk) 12:08, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
Any person who was questions of which piece of the Manual of Style we use for each fix, can read Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/General fixes. We also call volunteer Wikipedians, to read proof our code and see if you miss any general fixes. The code is updates regularly and our documentation does not always follow. - Magioladitis (talk) 12:23, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
Hi, you're right with "punctuation and footnotes", and I well know that "in English, in contrary to some other languages, any punctuation must precede the ref tags", but the real problem is this, or this, or this. Could you please help me? Thank you so much. --Mauro Lanari (talk) 11:31, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
Mauro Lanari I also would prefer that the discussion is in one place. Since I left you a message I think it would be better if you kept the discussion there. It's OK now but just recall this for the next we will have a discussion. Thanks again for replying to me.-- Magioladitis (talk) 11:48, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
Hello, I added 2 links to the Wikipedia page of Moshe Ha-Elion. Now there is a link to the Moshe Ha-Elion Wikipedia page in the Yad Vashem Wikipedia page and in the Steven B. Bowman Wikipedia page. Could you kindly remove the tag "This article is an orphan, as no other articles link to it. Please introduce links to this page from related articles; try the Find link tool for suggestions."? Thank you very much and greetings from Madrid / Antonia Tejeda Barros Antonia Tejeda Barros (talk) 07:53, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
Antonia Tejeda Barros done. -- Magioladitis (talk) 07:56, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for catching that, I'm new at this navbox thing. Could you explain the default sort bit and how it affects special letters? Thanks. Doug Weller talk 07:56, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
Doug Weller please read WP:SORTKEY. -- Magioladitis (talk) 07:57, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
I see your bot was closing open <sup> tags in certain articles during this year's Wimbledon. Unfortunately, it didn't also close the opened bold tags — i.e.:
|RD3-score03-2='''7<sup>7
→ |RD3-score03-2='''7<sup>7</sup>'''
I realize closing wiki-markup bold and italics is much more difficult than closing HTML-like tags like <sup>, but could you possibly add functionality to your bot to narrowly target things like the example above, as well as the following…?
|RD3-score03-2='''6
→ |RD3-score03-2='''6'''
|RD3-score03-2='''7<sup>7</sup>
→ |RD3-score03-2='''7<sup>7</sup>'''
IOW, perform something like these (per-line) substitutions (note that I'm using PCRE):
s/^\s*(|\s*RD\d+-score\d+-\d+\s*=\s*'''\d+)\s*$/$1'''/
s/^\s*(|\s*RD\d+-score\d+-\d+\s*=\s*'''\d+<sup>\d+)\s*$/$1'''/
s/^\s*(|\s*RD\d+-score\d+-\d+\s*=\s*'''\d+<sup>\d+</sup>)\s*$/$1'''/
(Of course, all the extra whitespace in the parentheses could — and probably should — be removed in the substitution, but I wanted to keep the code examples short and somewhat understandable.)
I ask because these changes have to be done on (potentially) thousands of existing tennis articles (essentially all articles containing ((8TeamBracket-Tennis5)) and sufficiently similar tennis tournament bracket templates) and basically on all such articles created going forward (at least for some time). This is because some editors Once Upon a Time started using such sloppy wikicoding when these articles were first getting created, and the convention has stuck. The only way this is going to get fixed is a massive bot effort. (See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Tennis#Text formatting on tournament and draw pages for more context and discussion about this issue. If you want to see other changes that could also be done, but are more difficult to program a bot to do, see all the changes I made in this edit.)
If you can't or don't want to implement this in your bot, do you know what other bot-owner might be willing to do it? - dcljr (talk) 01:20, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
</sup>
is because of Visual Editor (VE). In some cases, VE will treat all text after an unclosed tag as superscript. Another case is <sup>
text</sub>
, where VE doesn't see the sub tag and continues to treat all text after the tag as superscript. This second case works fine using text editing, but not saving with VE. This is not a bug to the VE developers. All tennis articles have been fixed.dcljr I would be happy to add these rules in my settings file. I have not done it till now because it was not clear to me where to close the bold tags i.e.before of after the sup tag. Moreover, I had no good checks whether the bold tag is already closed. It would be perfect if you could wite down the exact regex (or at least as exact as you can get) I ave to use. Moreover, it is true that we have to find a way not to just fix the errors but encouraga people not to keep introducing them.. -- Magioladitis (talk) 06:14, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
dcljr I can give it a try. -- Magioladitis (talk) 06:37, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
dcljr Thanks. -- Magioladitis (talk) 07:01, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
/^(\s*\|\s*RD\d+-score\d+-\d+\s*=\s*'''\d+(?:<sup>\d+(?:<\/sup>)?)?)\s*$/mg, "$1\'''"
Re: Special:Diff/730324343, please stop the bot, fix the ruleset and clean up. —Sladen (talk) 14:04, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
The thing is that in this edit no error was actually introduced. The error was already there is became more obvious after the edit. In fact, searching for duplicated punctuation become easier and this is the way I spot these things and fix them manually afterwards. And, to be honest, this situation is fairly uncommon. I 'll perform a database scan to see what I miss here. Thanks, Magioladitis (talk) 06:39, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
Sladen it is a minor issue. It is low priority. It will be implemented at some point. -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:21, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
Sladen I just do not think this is a thing only for AWB to solve. I am thinking which person or bot to nudge about it. I think we will need a different bot for this issue. I already have sent some emails. I am waiting their replies before filling a Phabricator ticket. If you think it is urgent to add to Phabricator please do. We, as AWB developer, moved the bugs page to Phabricator to allow more feedback. -- Magioladitis (talk) 07:12, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
Sladen It is an issue. But not a real bug I think. -- Magioladitis (talk) 07:51, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
In to my understanding a bug is something that it caused by the software bt not something that is not solved in an optimal way by it. -- Magioladitis (talk) 07:54, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
Sladen T141685. please learn how to report bug by yourself. If you need help of how to do it on that, I use to spend time in the IRC channel of AWB. -- Magioladitis (talk) 07:58, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
Sladen Anytime. If you are participating in any of the off-wiki Wikimedia events I would like to meet you in some of the AWB workshops organised via these events. Sometimes, working together on a laptop may be faster to resolve these situations. I may also organise an online tutorial via Skype or Google hangouts but most probably in September or later. -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:05, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
Yobot removed quotation marked from a citation |title=
in Special:Diff/730306422. From checking we can see that the original citation[90] does contain quotes (because it is a quote from the interviewee). So per the usual, please halt Yobot, fix the relevant rule, and rollback/clean up any edits that incorrectly removed quotes in the same situation, and provide links to the relevant diffs and revision control commits showing that you have done so. —Sladen (talk) 19:11, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
((cite))
for [91] would be ((cite|title=Boris Johnson grilled over past 'outright lies' at uneasy press conference))
, which would be rendered as "Boris Johnson grilled over past 'outright lies' at uneasy press conference". The quotes are an essential part of the title. In the bug reported here, the whole title is itself a quotation, and the "quotation marks" denote this just as accurately. The presentation rendering is unrelated to the bug report. —Sladen (talk) 19:28, 19 July 2016 (UTC)Sladen so wrong quotes were there before the bot arrives, right? -- Magioladitis (talk) 19:32, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
|title="We are nothing without customers"
formatting corresponds with the citation title. It ceased to match the citation title following Yobot's actions in editing page. This is why a bug report was brought to the attention of Yobot's operator, in the reasonable expectation that it will be acted upon. The willingness to act and be responsive to bug reports is required of bot operators per WP:BOTISSUE and WP:BOTCOMM. I would be grateful if you could correct the relevant rule so that quotes are not removed in the case that they are match the citation title. If this is beyond the capabilities of the bot ruleset or its operator, please flag these for manual processing. —Sladen (talk) 19:47, 19 July 2016 (UTC)Sladen of course I am willing to fix the error as soon as I understand it. -- Magioladitis (talk) 21:11, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
|title=
and the surrounding presentational quote marks. This is in the kern_quotes()
function in Module:Citation/CS1. —Sladen (talk) 22:22, 19 July 2016 (UTC)@Rjwilmsi: can you please review this bug report? -- Magioladitis (talk) 21:34, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
|title=
are removed. Normally these quotes are incorrect as the rendering of CS1/CS2 adds the required quotes. In this case the title is itself a quote, so the quote marks are valid. We won't be able to differentiate between those scenarios in code, so we would have to remove the logic, and not correct the majority of cases where the quotes do need to be removed as the title is not itself a quote. Unless anybody can see a different solution? Rjwilmsi 01:19, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
<title>
for on-line works) then by definition the bot ruleset will end up doing the wrong thing. The particularly unfortunate thing here is that once the quotes have been removed the operation is non-reversible. So in the world of "First, do no harm", I concur with disabling, and only producing manual candidate lists. Regarding the clean-up: how long as this rule been active, and how many edits do we now have to re-view? (Can you help Magioladitis to produce a candidate list?). —Sladen (talk) 08:55, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
Sladen Bug reported on phabricator T140979. This will cause some attention. -- Magioladitis (talk) 11:26, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
git svn
/git blame
, it would appear that [92] (SVN r7057) was the origin of the bug. Does that look to you? —Sladen (talk) 00:49, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
Sladen I am really sorry but I don't have the technical knowledge to create these statistics. AWB accounts are very popular and Yobot is not the only account editing pages. Most of references are handled by other bot. I suggest that you address to WP:VILLAGEPUMP or WP:BOTREQ. I contacted some fellow programmers but none had a clue of how to do this. -- Magioladitis (talk) 18:27, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
Sladen I trust that editors monitoring the pages will fix or would have fixed the title were needed. I also underline the fact that people may be running older version of AWB and still removing quotes. The bug at the moment is fixed only in the Yobot's version of AWB. A ne release has not been published yet. -- Magioladitis (talk) 18:32, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
OK I had an idea. I'll provide some statistics very soon. I contacted some WMF guys. -- Magioladitis (talk) 18:44, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
Sladen A wiki search shows that there are only 78 pages with quotes in title in citation templates. I'll now fix those with actual problem manually. -- Magioladitis (talk) 06:00, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
title="quote"
instance remaining in the database owing to removal by AWB. To get useful metrics, one needs to evaluate actual AWB diffs, with those where the before state contains title="quote"
, and the after state does not. —Sladen (talk) 09:12, 26 July 2016 (UTC)Sladen I do not plan to investigate more on this. -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:15, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
I tried an earlier version of AWB (v. 5.8.6.0). It turns AWB was not removing quotes unless there the quetes were at the beginning and/or at the end of the |title=
of one of the supported citation template. This is more restrictive of what I have described in the beginning. i.e. Less pages affected. -- Magioladitis (talk) 06:12, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
Sladen the number should be even smaller, since we do not deal with all citation templates but with a selection of them. -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:24, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
Re: Special:Diff/730799065, please stop the bot, and fix the rulesets to meet the requirements of WP:COSMETICBOT. —Sladen (talk) 10:32, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
Sladen on the first two diffs: Yobot tried to fix a header error while it should not because current script can't fix them. The script that fixes them is now handled by Dexbot: [94], [95]. In the future this error will be handled by Dexbot. -- Magioladitis (talk) 14:47, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
Sladen Please check List of known bugs. It would be very handy for us if you reported the bugs there too. Please also check whether the bug above was actually reported but I can't find it. -- Magioladitis (talk) 11:48, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
Sladen I recall there was a discussion about it but I can't find it. Maybe in Bot Owner's Noticeboard or something. -- Magioladitis (talk) 18:29, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
Sladen T141346 reported. -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:00, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
Hi Magioladitis, I can see from Special:Contributions/Yobot that AWB was being operated at extremely-high speeds. Speeds that make manual oversight or checking nearly impossible. Here are several instances of Yobot operating at >60 edits per minute: $ awk 'match($0,/(..:..), 25 July 2016/){print substr($0,RSTART,5)}' < huge.txt | uniq -c | sort -rn | head -n 11
76 06:45 74 06:59 71 07:02 70 06:58 70 06:43 68 06:46 67 07:04 66 07:03 61 07:08 61 07:07 61 06:44
Please try to moderate edit rates to a manageable rate: that means keeping to a speed where manual oversight, review, and clean-up by human editors (including the bot's operator) becomes feasible. —Sladen (talk) 18:06, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
This is interesting. I thought the software as limiting the edit rate in 20-25 edits per minute. -- Magioladitis (talk) 18:36, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
Fun fact: I try to run the bot as early as possible. I even modified my waking up time habbits. This is because I got complains that when the bot arrived the error was not there anymore. -- Magioladitis (talk) 19:12, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
Sladen T127173 -- Magioladitis (talk) 07:21, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
Sladen T127185 -- Magioladitis (talk) 07:22, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
Sladen T100436 -- Magioladitis (talk) 07:23, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
Today's stats: After 6 hours we have fixed 1525 pages and still 45 pages need to be fixed. Moreover, he have 2,000 pages from the monthly scan left. -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:42, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
Many CHECKWIKI errors occur as the act of vandalism. In these cases we certainly need to fix everything as early as possible. -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:48, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
Sladen from a quick look, I have not noticedany ~60 epm from my bot today. -- Magioladitis (talk) 07:26, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
Sladen User_talk:Josve05a#Bot. I would like to see 4-5 more bots editing all together. -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:00, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
-- Magioladitis (talk) 09:03, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
This will enable us to load even more errors per day. There is a discussion of how to detect more errors or how to expand our daily scans. -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:11, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
Rich Farmbrough maybe you would like to join the Alliance too? We can achieve a number of bots that will coordinate to fix the errors! -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:14, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
Rich Farmbrough do you think resuming a bot that will tag empty sections would have consensus? It is error 84 and AWB provides a clear edit summary for this. -- Magioladitis (talk) 20:19, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
Rich Farmbrough we exclude these cases. We 'll still to perform some testing though. -- Magioladitis (talk) 15:42, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
Rich Farmbrough is almost up. If you are interested to perform this task please fill up a BRFA. -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:34, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
Stop making such edits as here. Why are you removing the Russian quotes and that category?--User:Tomcat7 (talk) 09:56, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
User:Tomcat7 Please read MOS:CURLY. My bot is doing fine. -- Magioladitis (talk) 11:15, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
No biggie, but your edit on the Delaware Canal here hardly seems worth burning additional byte counts to archive a new portion of the page, plus makes the page harder to edit. So why remove the Linefeed
from paragraph separations like: <br ... and ... />
in direct contradiction to my nice pretty easy to follow source edit. IMHO and speaking as a computer engineer, the wasted page byte count server storage penalty in the source page is far more deleterious than just saving a few extra bytes in a source page which is rendered to make such unpacking of whitespaces in data moot anyway! Consider all the pre-processing that allows us to utilize templates and wikimarkup for embedding images... all gets squirted into HTML far faster than you or I can even read, much less edit the data (text).
Inquiring minds want to know why you'd bother to undo something so useful. For yourself, IMHO, you need consider why do anything so useless and disrespectful of your own time. Best regards // FrankB 14:49, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
Ping: @Bgwhite and NicoV: -- Magioladitis (talk) 15:34, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
<br />
is no longer valid. Just use <br>
. Later is XHTML, which Wikipedia dumped a few years back. <br />
was optional in HTML5, but is no longer mentioned in HTML5.1.you need consider why do anything so useless and disrespectful of your own timePlease, do not talk down and be disrespectful to other people. Girraffedata only fixes one word. Some people only do categories. As a WikiGnome, every other day I get told how useless I am. Everybody is here because they enjoy doing something on Wikipedia. My dyslexia makes writing hard for me, so a WikiGnome I morphed into. Bgwhite (talk) 21:25, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
<br>
, we are not using HTML 5.1 yet, AFAIK, and in the meantime, <br>
makes the Syntax Highlighter gadget work wrong (it turns the rest of the article pink, making it hard to find other unclosed tags, templates, and formatting). Since both <br>
and <br />
are valid in HTML5, I would not encourage removing the trailing slash, since it makes a useful tool more useful and does no harm (yet). If we get to the point where <br />
is invalid, a bot can sweep through and change all of them. – Jonesey95 (talk) 02:01, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
Fabartus AWB does not change this (it never did) and CHECKWIKI stopped detection since yesterday. -- Magioladitis (talk) 06:52, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
Fabartus Sorry for the late reply. I meant that pages with newline inside the brea tag won't appear in my daily to-do list. So no bot will affect these pages anymore. -- Magioladitis (talk) 16:34, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
No worries, and no harm, no foul! Thanks though Magioladitis!
Someone else did a similar edit on another page I spotted over the weekend. Shrug. Not OUR time! // FrankB 19:03, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
Your bot apparently replaced a no-break space ' ' (U+00A0) I put in with a regular space here. If you insist on making such edits, you could at least replace it with the corresponding HTML entity. --88.114.12.148 (talk) 13:46, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
Investigating. I should have been caught by AWB correctly. -- Magioladitis (talk) 20:11, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
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For some reason, the Yobot edits for Mass wikiprojects is doing the "M" odd so it's an error. This fix is repeatedly needed. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 06:55, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
Ricky81682 thanks for the heads up. Fixed. If you see anything similar contact me immediately. -- Magioladitis (talk) 07:06, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
Hi Magioladitis, in the Bibliography of George Washington article I have been putting line breaks (<br>) in between a couple of the sections and the several collapsible boxes to avoid a stacking appearance and crowding of the text, but your bot removed them once again. I added a hidden note explaining this but apparently this went unnoticed. In any case, unless there is a policy for never using these, could you please not remove them the next time around? Thanx. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 04:17, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
@Frietjes: to help me with that. -- Magioladitis (talk) 07:07, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
Task #26 has been approved. Happy editing, — xaosflux Talk 23:40, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
xaosflux Thanks!! -- Magioladitis (talk) 23:53, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
when ((CURRENTYEAR))
follows an inflation template, you shouldn't substitute it since the inflation figure is always for the current year. instead you should replace it with the inflation-year template. I fix your edit with this edit. Frietjes (talk) 18:49, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
Frietjes thanks. -- Magioladitis (talk) 19:50, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
Why fix something that isn't broken? While I agree with the changes made in this edit, why was it necessary to make an edit that changes nothing for the reader? See WP:AINT. Alansohn (talk) 23:59, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
Alansohn Hi. I think self-closed tags are being deprecated in latest HTML version. In fact I did this minor edit to detect an actual br tag error in the page. It's not something I usually do. -- Magioladitis (talk) 00:09, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
Frietjes thanks.
Alansohn Btw, the reason I reached this page is that it is listed in Wikipedia:CHECKWIKI/WPC 002 dump. I thought the problem is one of the br tahs but actually is some cite tags. -- Magioladitis (talk) 00:32, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
See this diff. Yobot lowercased ((BLP sources)). The following edit by AnomieBOT put the month July back to upper case. wbm1058 (talk) 13:46, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
But neither bot recognized that the problem was vandalism, which called for simply reverting the vandal's edit. I just did that. wbm1058 (talk) 13:52, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
wbm1058 This was caused by the broken template above. Let's see if we can avoid this. -- Magioladitis (talk) 14:07, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
wbm1058 we would detect the error anyway, because me and Bgwhite check all the bracket errors manually too. Still, I am thinking of a way to reduce the problem. -- Magioladitis (talk) 14:18, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
Hello, will you be so kind to correct my mistakes in grammar or spelling. Thanks. --WhoisWhoME (talk) 14:37, 18 August 2016 (UTC)
Yobot [97] inserted the word "test" at the head of an article. Please investigate. – Fayenatic London 08:56, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
Why is Yobot making tests on live pages? Examples: 2016 Pittsburg State Gorillas football team, Banbury railway station and Netela. This seems to have occurred between 06:13 and 06:49 today, affecting many pages. --Redrose64 (talk) 09:00, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
Redrose64 I think I fixed everything. Please make some checks. Thanks for the detailed report. -- Magioladitis (talk) 10:13, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
List of The Simpsons episodes (seasons 1–20) was created by Wbm1058 because List of The Simpsons episodes kept breaking the post expand include size limit due to the number of pages being transcluded. It exists as a cache page for List of The Simpsons episodes rather than as a separate article. The page consists almost entirely of content transcluded from other pages and is itself in danger of breaking the post expand include size limit. Part of the transcluded content is the references section from List of The Simpsons episodes so the page actually has a references section already, but Yobot doesn't see that and has twice now added what becomes a second references section on the page.[98][99] I've added ((nobots|deny=Yobot)) to stop this re-occurring but thought I'd mention it here. --AussieLegend (✉) 09:46, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
@Frietjes: maybe can help? -- Magioladitis (talk) 16:50, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
[100] --Floquenbeam (talk) 22:46, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
Yobot just made an edit with a series of entirely cosmetic changes at List of taxes, this edit. Changing ((main)) to ((main article)) and changing [[Bank tax|Bank taxes]] to [[Bank tax]]es are the only changes I can see that it made. I suggest checking your bot to ensure it complies with WP:COSMETICBOT. Oiyarbepsy (talk) 13:30, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
Oiyarbepsy Check the edit summary. The bot fixed the section header naming. Jonesey95 is right. -- Magioladitis (talk) 15:47, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
Several times today Yobot has "fixed" one issue, left others, but more importantly, it was all due to vandalism. Can you double check that Yobot shouldn't just rollback?
Jerod Lycett (talk) 16:52, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for Yobot’s correction here. (Why shouldn’t bots be thanked when then clean up an editor’s personally unseen mistakes? Oh yeah, because then any legitimate concerns would probably be drowned out in thanks comments. :) ) LaughingVulcan 12:52, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
LaughingVulcan Great thanks for the highly inspiring message!!! -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:33, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
Thanks the fix, Magioladitis. BTW, sorry about posting at Yobot's talk page; I missed the notice that it would stop the bot. Keep up the good work! —Laoris (talk) 16:11, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
This edit to Kaph removed a zero-width joiner. The ZWJ is an invisible Unicode character, but it has a visible effect on adjacent characters. Yobot shouldn’t remove it willy-nilly like that. Gorobay (talk) 19:42, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
Do you have any idea why User:Magioladitis/WikiProjects is in Category:Pages with syntax highlighting errors? I'm trying to clear that category, not that I know what I'm doing. I've fixed several of them by replacing the <source> tags with <pre> (preformatted text) tags, such as here. – wbm1058 (talk) 20:04, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
<pre>...</pre>
is that in some circumstances, its contents can still be parsed as wikitext. <source>...</source>
- which is essentially synonymous with <syntaxhighlight>...</syntaxhighlight>
- prevents such parsing. --Redrose64 (talk) 20:41, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
<pre>...</pre>
and use <source>...</source>
or <syntaxhighlight>...</syntaxhighlight>
, then the latter two shouldn't dump every page that uses those into Category:Pages with syntax highlighting errors! Sorry if I seem annoyed (I am), but it's a joke that our documentation of this – Wikipedia:Syntax highlighting – is a disambiguation page. ((dabconcept))! – wbm1058 (talk) 21:27, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
Maybe the text is too long? -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:00, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
I think there are size limitations. -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:17, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
<source>...</source>
or <syntaxhighlight>...</syntaxhighlight>
, and we may as well just replace them with <pre>...</pre>
to clear the category so people don't go chasing down spurious errors. wbm1058 (talk) 22:41, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
Hi Magioladitis! I noticed that you reverted my addition to Brucella abortus page. May I know the reasons? I understand that both tables are huge, however I intended to create a new page, but it was refused because it was not enough for a single page, and a reviewer suggested me to add this to Brucella or B. abortus (that's empty by the way...). Do you think that the information added was not important? Any suggestions? Best. Marsuareze (talk) 23:35, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
Marsuareze I already gave the reason in my edit summary. You added content in a redirect i.e. you added non-visible information. Please also take note that someone else already told you that adding 1.3 Mb of info in one edit is not manageable nor verifiable. -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:39, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
Magioladitis thanks for making your point clear. Would you suggest then, to remove the redirect and to add the information in portions for it to be verified? Or, do you think that the information is no useful? Marsuareze (talk) 22:55, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
Marsuareze I think the best place to ask is Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Microbiology. I am not expert in Microbiology and how detailed this article can be. At a first glance you seem that you have made a wonderful job collecting and displaying all this information. I am confident that there are some other experts in the field with hom oyu can cooperate and guide you on this. Best, Magioladitis (talk) 22:59, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
Hello there...you are an admin, you know the ropes. I am running across a large number of articles with broken links, which I sometimes try to fix to the best of my ability. The problem is, I do not have an exact knowledge of wiki syntax concerning links. Might it be possible for you to give me a pointer to somewhere on wikipedia that will tell me precisely how to set up a link, and what each field is and how it would be formatted? Please reply to my talk page. Thank you.66.103.35.72 (talk) 02:58, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
Hi. I've noticed the good work you do on here. I was wondering if you'd be interested in contributing to this ambitious British Isles challenge to bringing about 10,000 improvements to the UK and Ireland. The drive is fuelled by regional contests every few months, but it is generally an ongoing content improvement development. If you'd be interested in chipping in with the articles you improve please add your name to the participants and start adding your entries to the big list. Diversity of input will make it much more interesting to peruse! Thanks.♦ Dr. Blofeld 08:29, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
I would like to kind of clean the page up just a bit and add a style section for the genres I'm not sure how to go about it though any help would be great Delain123 (talk) 23:00, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
Hi, just pointing out this very odd edit by Yobot. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 11:24, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
KylieTastic Thanks. It is a very rare situation that happens in less than 1 per 10.000 edits. -- Magioladitis (talk) 11:45, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
Hi, just to let you know that I had an ec with your bot at Rosa Namises. Thought I could overwrite your bot (the diff function didn't actually show what it did), and it would just make another turn. Thinking about it now I could have anticipated that the bot would not simply reinstate an edit where it was essentially reverted... I'm sorry to have caused you manual work. Cheers, Pgallert (talk) 13:12, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
Pgallert Thanks for contacting. No worries. -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:25, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
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Hi, thanks for noticing those bungled superscripts. if there is a digit followed by Γ, Δ, Π, or Σ, it might be a molecular term symbol. Let me know if you see that! Graeme Bartlett (talk) 23:52, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
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Gestrid I need to leave home asap. I blocked to prevent further. Please contact some other admin to fix the block reason or I'll be back in a few hours. Sorry but real life calls. -- Magioladitis (talk) 21:36, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
Please could you tell me why changes are being made to the ref formats on for instance Nuckelavee and Nuggle? Thanks. SagaciousPhil - Chat 19:09, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
Sagaciousphil I believe saving template calls it's a good thing. Anyway, since you are the second person to complain I won't insist. -- Magioladitis (talk) 19:11, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
Sagaciousphil have you tried Visual Editor? Do they work fine this it? -- Magioladitis (talk) 19:14, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
Sagaciousphil I asked Frietjes to comment. I also would like what Plastikspork says. I came across this template when fixing PMID errors in a list provided at Wikipedia:CHECKWIKI/WPC 102 dump by NicoV. -- Magioladitis (talk) 20:46, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
I also would like what Plastikspork says" - this does not make any sense to me, so please could you explain? SagaciousPhil - Chat 21:04, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
((r))
, or any issues with visual editor and ((r))
. there could be, I just don't know. Frietjes (talk) 13:59, 26 September 2016 (UTC)Hi! I see that you are using your infernal automated editing software to remove instances of ((r)), with the edit summary "save template calls". Is there a consensus that this unbelievably useful template should no longer be used? If so, where? If not, would you kindly stop fucking with it? Thank you! (Note: I do recognise that most of what you do is intended to help the project; but when your edits are without or even against community consensus, you do exactly the opposite – sorry to say this, but overall this would be a much better place without you). Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 00:23, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
Hello, how can I rename the page? (Alberthas7 (talk) 19:55, 27 September 2016 (UTC)) I want to rename the page Lala Hasanova [[101]] From Lala Hasanova to Elizabeth Tudor
According to the WP:COMMONNAME the page name should be Elizabeth Tudor, not Lala Hasanova or Lala Hassenberg. The page name of authors should be their pen name, NOT their birth name see [[102]], [[103]] or [[104]]
Also, if you will follow the history of the page Lala Hasanova you will see that yesterday there have been made some changes in a body of the text. But it was immediately reverted to the last version by Materialscientist. However, I checked the source and compared with edited information, and found that the new edition was made correctly. Please check this link [Authors Guild]
Thanks (Alberthas7 (talk) 19:55, 27 September 2016 (UTC))
Thanks! (Alberthas7 (talk) 21:26, 27 September 2016 (UTC))
And what about the author's information? On the Author's Guild page it says that her name now is Lala Hassenberg, not Hasanova see [Authors Guild] (Alberthas7 (talk) 21:32, 27 September 2016 (UTC))
Hi Magioladitis,
I hope you are doing well.
I have been in a dispute with a wiki user for several weeks on the Turkish people article, particularly in regards to the population (but also the introduction). I've been informed that 3 reverts = being blocked, which is something I really wish to avoid. For this reason, I've been trying to reach a compromise through the talk page but the other side seems unwilling to work together (and seems quite unpleasant to communicate with).
I'm aware that you have already taken a look at my sandbox. Could you tell me your thoughts? I've tried my best to include recognizable publishers yet the other side has referred to everything I have shown as "unreliable" or "junk". The Turkish people article, in its current form, is a mess. I really want to improve it but I don't know how this will be possible if I can't even get pass writing the introduction.
Kind regards, O.celebi (talk) 15:11, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
Michael Bednarek Bot failed to fix this. Yesterday we updated the lists to catch also closing bold, italics tags. The bot will function OK again. -- Magioladitis (talk) 06:33, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
Hi. Could you answer, please, on Wikipedia talk:AutoWikiBrowser/Archive 30#Hewiki localisation? Thank you. IKhitron (talk) 18:02, 7 October 2016 (UTC)
Hi IKhitron. Sorry for not replying earlier. I decided to give myself a week off. I am afraid the piece of code you refer to is hardcoded. Please be more specific and probably me and most probably Rjwilmsi can help coding it. -- Magioladitis (talk) 18:05, 7 October 2016 (UTC)
your edit: plz see User_talk:Bgwhite#checkwiki_.2390. Staszek Lem (talk) 21:49, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
Hi, in this edit, Yobot correctly removed two ineffective <br />
but didn't add the two missing </small>
. --Redrose64 (talk) 19:04, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
Hello Magioladitis, I'm having difficulty linking the new Japanese translation of the Cyril Genik article with the other languages of this article. I entered it properly into the edit in languages, but it will not link. I've linked the English and Japanese temporarily through the old method of putting the languages directly into the articles after Categories. But this does not help with all the other languages. Can you help? Nicola Mitchell (talk) 17:34, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
has this been deleted, or moved. it is unclear.?
There should be a mechanism where a page that is in discussion of deletion - has the edit disabled and the background color changed/striped/...
I believe this will help to see contents, not waste time on redundancy, and still give a cursory amount of information (as some of us do not need correct language, translating, or even complete info,... when looking at an article) - especially if it is noted as substandard by an above method.
Please message me back. I am a part-time user of Wikipedia so I don't know if any of my ideas are already done
tapalmer99 >> tapwestport at aol dot com (if this is easier)
thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tapalmer99 (talk • contribs) 15:37, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
Hi Magioladitis! Could you clarify what's the purpose of this and similar edits? Did I do anything wrong or, perhaps, your bot sometimes makes inconsequential edits? Thanks, 凰兰时罗 (talk) 15:59, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
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Hello Magioladitis, this edit by the bot blanked a redirect page. I think it might be related to the presence and bot-handling of non-rendered new line, /n, and similar characters between the category text. Cheers, UW Dawgs (talk) 15:03, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
UW Dawgs Thanks for the heads up. I checked once more. It turns it's not that. It's this temporary loss of connection before we send data back after processing. It's rare but it happens. -- Magioladitis (talk) 15:08, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
In this edit your Yobot removed characters that were "invisible" but not without function: nonbreaking spaces exist in Unicode precisely for the reason I used them, namely, to keep together something that is typeset with a space but should not linebreak on that space. Browsers observe this: you can see if you manually change the width of that history/diff page that the new version will happily put part of the number on one line and part on the other, while my version keeps the entire number together. Automatically replacing all nonbreaking spaces with regular spaces is a bug. (Removing nonbreaking spaces that are adjacent to regular spaces is safe, as that negates their nonbreaking functionality.) /blahedo (t) 21:12, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
blahedo Thanks for the heads up! -- Magioladitis (talk) 21:27, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
Hi Magioladitis, is AWB confused by further reading lists that contain the citation template leading to (for example) this. The result is the in line citations get merged into the further reading list due to the reflist removal. Quite a few of these edits were made around that date/time to the microRNA precursor family. Regards.CV9933 (talk) 21:44, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
CV9933 I did this edit manually. There is another reflist exactly before the external links. The further reading section is messed up. I wated to fix further but then I forgot. -- Magioladitis (talk) 21:49, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
CV9933 I think I fixed it now. Please check again. -- Magioladitis (talk) 21:51, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
Just to make clear on the initial edit: AWB does not remove duplicated reflists... yet. It was solely a manual edit. -- Magioladitis (talk) 21:53, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
CV9933 I usually fix all that AWB can fix and sortly after I reload the list with the unfixed ones to fix the issues left. This also helps me create lists of things that could be fixed by bot in the future. Thanks for the report. -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:53, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
Hi. Sorry to disturb you again. Something new? Yoy said you'll be in vacation for a week. Thank you. IKhitron (talk) 11:56, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
IKhitron so what exactly do you need to be done? Localisation fo ((bots)) template? -- Magioladitis (talk) 10:56, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
IKhitron "Bots" template has the same name in he.wp. So what is the problem? That MetaDataSort does not work? -- Magioladitis (talk) 12:03, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
IKhitron why there is a second template not connected to the others? -- Magioladitis (talk) 12:36, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
IKhitron is there any chance that we move to the standard one? All global bot would search for the standard one. All other projects follow the same naming for both the templates and its parameters. -- Magioladitis (talk) 12:40, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
IKhitron is there any difference in functionality between the two templates? -- Magioladitis (talk) 12:47, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
Georgia Jones may be a professional British basketball player, but there is another Georgia Jones who is a prominent pornographic actress. And I guess, the photo on the Georgia Jones page is showing the actress and not the basketball player. --80.187.111.103 (talk) 10:02, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
You just edited Steven Rubenstein (diff). However, please see the diff immediately before yours. I am a bit suspicious of templates like ((srlink)) which appear to obfuscate a simple link, but the documentation sounds convincing, at least for anyone who cares about parasitic mirrors of Wikipedia. This is just for your consideration and I am happy with whatever decision you make. I mention it in case this kind of edit should be an exception for fixes. Johnuniq (talk) 10:19, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
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The system that tries to automatically assign a colour to a taxobox relies on the taxon name being either in plain text or wikilinked. It won't work if the taxon name is manually emboldened. So, odd as it may seem, for present and future processing, you should rely on the Wikimedia to embolden self-links. Peter coxhead (talk) 17:52, 8 November 2016 (UTC)
I’ve been studying the pronunciation guides on Wikipedia itself.67.1.115.126 (talk) 19:00, 8 November 2016 (UTC)67.1.115.126 (Talk)
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Your bot is making edits such as these; the break is needed to arrange the name of the hockey players who scored a point next to the result.--User:Tomcat7 (talk) 14:07, 8 November 2016 (UTC)
Frietjes to check this! -- Magioladitis (talk) 14:13, 8 November 2016 (UTC)
|goal1a=
, |goal1b=
, etc. Frietjes (talk) 14:59, 8 November 2016 (UTC)February 15, 2006 13:05 | Italy | 2–7 (0–1, 2–5, 0–1) | Canada | Palasport Olimpico Attendance: 8575 |
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|goal1a=
, |goal1b=
, |goal1c=
as mentioned above, but that would require more typing within the articles. or, we could have something like |progression1= / 0–1 / Cirone (Scandella) (PP) – 20:43
, etc. whatever works best. Frietjes (talk) 17:23, 8 November 2016 (UTC)
<br />
with / in the |progression=
and |goals1=
and |goals2=
with no adverse effects. Frietjes (talk) 14:51, 13 November 2016 (UTC)Two separate bot edits inserted an ==Untitled==
section header in the middle of an editor's talk page comment. I'm guessing that the "gotcha" is that the editor made a two-paragraph comment (there are two consecutive newlines in their comment text):
– wbm1058 (talk) 15:05, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
Can you please stop vandalizing Hofburg Palace page? If you don't like how colored labels are made, change it, but please don't remove the color from these labels. Unless your goal is to jeopardy the General plan of Hofburg Palace's caption. Thanks. Carlotm (talk) 18:27, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
Carlotm, it was now fixed by Bgwhite. Thanks for coming by. -- Magioladitis (talk) 19:40, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
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Please see. --Saqib (talk) 12:29, 16 November 2016 (UTC)
Why did Yobot do this? Is it working from a list of equivalents? If so, is that list broken? --Redrose64 (talk) 21:28, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
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Hi. Something new? Thank you. IKhitron (talk) 18:58, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
IKhitron so your request is that "ללא בוט" is not be moved nevermind where it was? Right? -- Magioladitis (talk) 19:10, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
@Rjwilmsi: to help with that. -- Magioladitis (talk) 21:14, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
I would like to completely automate Bot1058 task 3 on my Windows machine, and have it run itself daily. My other bots are automatically run by Windows Task Scheduler. I have task scheduler run PowerShell, but from there I need to tell AWB exactly what to do via command prompt instructions. I don't know how to automate mouse point-and-click operations. Is this possible? Thanks, wbm1058 (talk) 16:25, 18 November 2016 (UTC)
@Reedy: -- Magioladitis (talk) 15:04, 20 November 2016 (UTC)
you added an extra brace in this edit and in this edit. probably for all the inline replacements. Frietjes (talk) 23:53, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
Frietjes Fixed now. Thanks. -- Magioladitis (talk) 23:55, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
Hi. I may be wrong, but it appears that your bot is marking new pages that should not yet be indexed for Google, with AWB as patrolled . If this is so, it's quite a serious issue. Could you please confer with Kaldari and see what can be done. Thanks. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 10:44, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
Xaosflux thanks for looking into it. -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:07, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
Hi,
I was working on the Evolutionary Psychological and Biological Explanations for Prostitution page with my University peers for a course project. The page has been deleted as of today. Is it possible to recover the page as we are still working on the improvements given under the proposed deletion suggestions such reviewing the studies mentioned. We also read the reasons for deletion on the articles for deletion page. If this is not possible, are we able to receive a draft version of the page for us to work on?
Thanks.
NidaAhmad2 (talk) 13:27, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
NidaAhmad2 I renabled the page at Draft:Evolutionary Psychological and Biological Explanations for Prostitution -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:30, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
Thank you Magioladitis. -- NidaAhmad2 (talk) 13:33, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
Hi Magioladitis. I had an orphan label on the article Philippe Echaroux I added the links of articles in the press and tv in the world. Could you check and lift the headband? Thank you for your help. Have a good day.--Photomaltese (talk) 09:26, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
Hi Photomaltese. You need to add incoming link to the article. You already have outcoming links. What is missing is pages that link to this pages. -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:28, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
Hi Magioladitis and wbm1058 Thank you ! I added Philippe Echaroux here :List of French photographers. I have seen that in other categories the author is inscribed with the letter S, an error his name begins with E. How to change? I did not find. Thank you for your help.--Photomaltese (talk) 18:44, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
Hi, I think you maintian user:Yobot? If so, I don't understand what the point is behind this edit: [106]. Is there something I am missing? Thanks in advance for replying on my talkpage. Ottawahitech (talk) 23:29, 3 December 2016 (UTC)please ping me
Ottawahitech per documentation you only need to add it once. Inside the ref. -- Magioladitis (talk) 18:13, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
</ref>
that contains the dead link. The notice will then correctly appear in the reference section (instead of in the body of the text, which is not recommended)." – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:48, 4 December 2016 (UTC)Hello Magioladitis (manners makyth...)! I would like to upload an article, on biography. Would you like to review it? I'm a bit wary, after previous experiences... Thanks. Protozoon (talk) 21:37, 4 December 2016 (UTC) Protozoon (talk) 21:33, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
In the light of WP:COSMETICBOT, would you mind having a look at this Yobot edit to see if the bot is working properly. I wouldn't think that removing a space from the end of each of three lines of text (two of them are alt text) counts as a "substantive change". Cheers --RexxS (talk) 14:23, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
RexxS thanks for the heads up. I'll look into it. -- Magioladitis (talk) 15:09, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
@Bgwhite: any idea which error was not fixed here? -- Magioladitis (talk) 07:14, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
===The pressure vessel===
to =====Manufacture=====
. Ironically for RexxS, it is an accessibility issue. Don't tell Mandarax I used ironic, using it wrong is one of his pet peeves. AWB fixes some #25 issues. What isn't fixed is later done manually... usually by me, sigh. Bgwhite (talk) 07:46, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
====Aluminium====
. There was no error #25 left to fix, so it just did the tidying. Got it - and thanks to all for the good work you're doing. --RexxS (talk) 17:08, 7 December 2016 (UTC)Bots should be careful about reordering footnotes. If the pre-bot text is
Yobot in some circumstances will reorder the footnotes, which is incorrect. For an example, see https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Common_law&type=revision&diff=753449623&oldid=753336538 -- the quote is from Black's, and the reorder makes it look like it came from Garner.
Recommendation--if the character immediately before the first <ref> is a " (or only ". ) then don't reorder the footnotes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.169.56.27 (talk) 12:47, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
Thanks, Yobot, for your attention to Harry Kesten.
A stylistic point. When the text reads: "see the work in <ref>...</ref>." or similar, it is preferable not to change that to "see the work in.<ref>...</ref>"
2deff (talk) 11:22, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
2deff please read WP:REFPUNCT. -- Magioladitis (talk) 11:28, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
Magioladitis: You made some minor changes to Washington Monument, but I had to revert some pages in ref HSR (Historic Structure Report) that you changed from hyphens to n-dashes. This ref uses page within chapter numbering, so page 3-18, for example, means page 18 within chapter 3, it does not mean pages 3 to 18. Check the ref. — Joe Kress (talk) 00:04, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
@Bgwhite: to check this please. -- Magioladitis (talk) 05:42, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
|loc=
set. Set it to something like |loc=Chapter 3, p. 18
?? Bgwhite (talk) 06:06, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
|at=
parameter instead of the |page=
parameter, ideally with an HTML comment explaining that the hyphen should not be changed, to avoid overzealous editors "fixing" the hyphen to a dash. "p. 3-18" is an unusual construction, so it's best to note it in an HTML comment. I know that makes extra work, but it gives you a chance of having the correct notation survive for a while. – Jonesey95 (talk) 07:01, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
|at=
parameter for the case I dealt with before. Bgwhite (talk) 07:23, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
Would it be possible to make the following AWB improvement regarding: 1) the List Filter screen, the 'Remove titles containing' box and the 'Keep titles containing' box; 2) the Skip screen text 'Contains' box and the 'Doesn't contain' box. When the amount of text in these boxes runs in to the hundreds/thousands of characters, it is VERY difficult to create or maintain this text correctly or even to envision it. It is also difficult to mass copy into/out of these boxes. It would be so much easier if AWB editors could optionally bring up a table to work on, such as found with the 'Find & replace' screen. This would be an expandable number of lines where one could put text and connect it up with Regex (mostly '|')--just like in the current boxes, but easier to handle. No 'find' or 'replace' columns, of course; other columns would go away also when not applicable here. Thanks Hmains (talk) 21:48, 11 December 2016 (UTC).
@Reedy and Rjwilmsi: -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:27, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
In this edit, why did the bot decide that there's no need for a new line? I would undo this edit myself, but I'm afraid the bot will change it again. Thanks, -- -- -- 20:27, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
Please respond. -- -- -- 20:27, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
-- -- -- the break tag was removed from a list. Break tag was unnecessary. -- Magioladitis (talk) 23:59, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
@-- -- -- and Jonesey95: I used an even better template which is appropriate for this situation. -- Magioladitis (talk) 16:08, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
Magioladitis, please stop Yobot making silly edits like this.
Yobot correctly ensures that (1) headers are preceded by one blank line, and (2) are followed immediately by text (no blank line). However, when a header is followed immediately by another header one level deeper, then (1) and (2) conflict, so there is no obvious "correct" answer. Currently Yobot inserts a blank line, giving rise to (in my view) pointless edits like the one above. This is a matter for article editors to decide, and should not be done by a bot. The edit above also violates WP:COSMETICBOT.
Many thanks for Yobot, which usually does great work, and is appreciated, but sometimes it does do stupid things! --NSH001 (talk) 23:07, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
NSH001 in fact Yobot does not have a nice check method whether a error was actually fixed or not. This is the center of the 99% of the complains against Yobot. What we actually do is to ensure that the page that is edited has an error and AWB can actually fix it. This is very sensitive to CHECKWIKI changes i.e. to the code that creates the lists of pages that contain errors. -- Magioladitis (talk) 23:33, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
NSH001 which one exactly? The whitespace after the header? I'll ask @Rjwilmsi: to comment if they like. --- Magioladitis (talk) 23:49, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
@NSH001 and SlimVirgin: T141346 is an open request. -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:18, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
Just curious, are you still active in the WP:BAG? --Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 20:48, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
Zackmann08 Done :) -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:26, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
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I reverted Yobot at Decibel because it looks like it did nothing but remove an trailing space. And didn't leave a useful edit summary. Can that really be an approved bot activity? Dicklyon (talk) 07:42, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
The bot failed to fix this. Changes to CHECKWIKI affected bot activity. I am on it. -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:51, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
I edited at User talk:Yobot#Expanding templates before seeing you asked for comments here. I have the same issue as SpinningSpark and I also can't understand the answer. Please stop these sort of edits. Thincat (talk) 08:36, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
The bot failed to fix this. -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:49, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
Thincat Unfortunately, I have only 2-3 scripts for 114 CHECKWIKI errors. This save me time but it's not the best approach. The system works as follows: CHECKWIKI creates everyday lists of pages that have syntax errors, I load the ones that are fixable by AWB. This would imply that when the bot visits a page it fixes at least one error and at the meantime does other minor stuff. Two problems here: The CHECKWIKI fixes and the minor fixes are inseparable in AWB's code and very few skip checks in fact exist in my scripts. So, if, for some reason, the bot fails to fix an error, it my do a minor edit without actually fixing anything. Usually, this ratio is very low. In fact lower than the time it would take to rewrite a much better code. After the bot is done we clear the lists of pages and check which pages were left still reporting errors. These few pages are fixed manually daily. -- Magioladitis (talk) 12:37, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
I was going to fill out a new bot application, but noticed that it includes linking to the bot's source code. I had assumed that submitting the code was a later step, since 1) we can't really test the code until the bot is approved, right? 2) if the request is denied because the intended purpose of the bot isn't needed or for some similar reason, writing the code will be labor lost. It just seems strange that submitting the code is part of the initial step rather than a later stage of the process. GBRV (talk) 17:26, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
Hi Magioladitis, what is done with the text on this page using AWB? I'm unsure as to most of the cleanup that can be done with AWB and how to do so. Thanks, --Rubbish computer (HALP!: I dropped the bass?) 17:38, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
Rubbish computer you ca paste the content of the page and use it as custom module when editing talk pages. -- Magioladitis (talk) 17:37, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
((unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~))
. SpinningSpark 10:38, 19 December 2016 (UTC)This is not cosmetic. -- Magioladitis (talk) 10:56, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
But this, this, this, this, this... is purely cosmetic, and all from among your latest 100 article edits (and more recent than the one you give as "not cosmtic") and made during your bot was blocked for the same reason. That among these cosemtic edits are some which really are beneficial is not sufficient. Fram (talk) 11:09, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
I removed many of the templates that are not needed to be changed. The reflists ones cause problems to bots that's why I replaced them. -- Magioladitis (talk) 11:12, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
Especially, if we are to move to a phase where AWB won't do that, we will need editors to do it manually. -- Magioladitis (talk) 11:18, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
Any evidence, discussion, ... that that replacement needs to be made at all, and that it causes problems to bots? Fram (talk) 11:23, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
Fram BG19bot added a duplicate reflist. -- Magioladitis (talk) 11:26, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
Each Wikipedia uses a different set of redirects. Translations of pages often cause problems similar to the RE template. -- Magioladitis (talk) 11:27, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
CHECKWIKI and AWB use right now different pages to detect redirects of reflist and the worst is that both lists are maintained manually. -- Magioladitis (talk) 11:29, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
Spinningspark Me, Bgwhite and @NicoV: are making a joint effort that these lists are unified. Last year not even the pages generated/detected/fixed by these tools were related. Recall that Bgwhite in fact modified a pre-exisiting code. Me too. -- Magioladitis (talk) 11:33, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
I have emptied Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/Template redirects from all but the stub templates. This may prevent you from getting blocked again for this reason in the future, assuming that my edit stays of course. You are still responsible for your own edits though, no matter if that page stays empty or gets populated again. Fram (talk) 11:45, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
Fram Thanks. -- Magioladitis (talk) 11:51, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
Fram I gave an example above that an AWB bot got confused by newly created redirect. The result was a duplicated reflist. You may have missed it with all these comments. ((RE)) is also an example of a bad redirect when it comes from moving the article from onle project to the other. some other redirects were the word "references" in other languages. Thanks, Magioladitis (talk) 17:31, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
Fram Inside the core code of AWB I have incudes some of the common redirects but not all. It's impractical. -- Magioladitis (talk) 18:15, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
Fram I am not against any redirect. I think it's clear from my actions. Moreover, I almost never added anything in that list. My effort was to remove. We can keep "Refs" as a plausable redirect. I recall we had some problems in the past because |refs=
is a valid parameter for reflist and I had problems to regex search for reflist templates with parameters. Anyway, it's approx. 200 pages. No big deal either way. -- Magioladitis (talk) 18:24, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
Spinningspark and now what exactly? -- Magioladitis (talk) 19:00, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
Spinningspark Since Fram almost deleted all the redirects list, bypassing is not possible (and most probably a large piece of AWB is broken for all users). I can stay away from AWB edits till the Yobot issue is settled though. -- Magioladitis (talk) 19:18, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
There is also Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/Rename template parameters which depends on WP:AWB/TR. -- Magioladitis (talk) 19:39, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
I'm not sure what's worse: Not using a process to add redirect bypasses, or not using a process to remove longstanding redirect bypasses. /smdh Anyway, if we are to have a process for adding redirects to bypass, perhaps this could be organized in a central spot? There are some bypasses I would argue for on the basis that using the current template is more self-explanatory and thus most helpful for editors (esp. new ones). Of course, even these bypasses shouldn't be done unless there's a substantive change to go with it (this ordinarily goes without saying but after this whirlwind, it's apparently a must :) ). Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 21:14, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
@MSGJ: There is a misunderstanding on what Yobot was doing. Yobot was never programmed to solely bypass redirects. A very small amount of edits happened last week due to bad synchronization between CHECKWIKI and AWB. This has nothing to do with my recent edits. So it was not a block evasion. -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:41, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
Spinningspark WPCleaner does no general fixes. This means I can use the tool from my main account, right? -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:45, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
Spinningspark All the main issues have been fixed.
Any other issues are being dealt. Please unblock my bot so I can perform the other tasks, to perform a test run for a new BRFA and continue the tasks the bot was doing. It's been 12 days since the bot was blocked.
Per Xaosflux's requests all edit summaries will be updated to indicate which task is running each time. This will also help Yobot's re-evaluation.
Thanks, Magioladitis (talk) 01:01, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
Spinningspark thank you very much and a happy new year. -- Magioladitis (talk) 01:13, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
((Official website)) is the new standard since it will use information from Wikidata. The conversion is the fist step to compare data between Wikipedia and Wikidata and find inconsistencies. @Ladsgroup: for more. -- Magioladitis (talk) 10:43, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
xaosflux See that Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/Dexbot 6 was done during Wikimania 2016 an it is a middle ground in order not to directly replace external links to official website with templates. -- Magioladitis (talk) 10:53, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
For moving data to Wikidata see also Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/KasparBot. -- Magioladitis (talk) 11:38, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
Xaosflux at that time was a bit straightforward to be honest. WP:ELOFFICIAL has not been updated. See for example that in 2015 Category:Official website not in Wikidata was created. We also have a tracking category for inconsistencies between Wikidata and English Wikipedia Category:Official website different in Wikidata and Wikipedia. Dexbot is/was not only converting external links in English Wikipedia but was also updating/comparing things with Wikidata. This is a next step after interwikis were removed from the English Wikipedia and after Authority Control now obtains info only from Wikidata. Infoboxes also now use Wikidata items. This migration has, or should have, consensus. -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:48, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
These two tracking categories can't be maintained by not using Official website. -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:50, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
xaosflux Are you, as BAG member, satisfied by this answer or you think I should wrote more on the matter? -- Magioladitis (talk) 17:27, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
@Ladsgroup, SlimVirgin, and Xaosflux: Dexbot's edits affect page categorisation.. so they are not cosmetic. It is an equivalent to adding a hidden maintance category to the page. -- Magioladitis (talk) 18:18, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
@Ladsgroup, SlimVirgin, and Xaosflux: Please read Template_talk:Official_website/Archive_2#Wikidata that results to Dexbot's bot task. -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:17, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
@Ladsgroup, SlimVirgin, and Xaosflux: Wikipedia:Bot_requests/Archive_62#Sync_official_website_with_Wikidata and Wikipedia:Bot_requests/Archive_64#Sync official website with Wikidata part 2 (May 2015) too. -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:19, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
The approval was published in The Signpost. Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2016-09-06/Technology report. -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:25, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
As you may see the idea was discussed in many places and for a long time before the bot was approved. -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:22, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
xaosflux I think Ladsgroup has a bad memory because this task was a subject for discussion for a long time in various places. - Magioladitis (talk) 22:34, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
The discussion started by Airon90 in 2014. Moreover, the initial stage does not affect the visual outcome in any page. -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:49, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
xaosflux It's important to note that these edits did not affect the visual output of the page nor changed any external links. Thus, the discussion never reached the ELOFFICIAL.
It's also important to note that these edits added useful tracking categories and followed changes in the template by Mr. Stradivarius. Moreover, they happened after Wikidata stage 1 completed in order to prepare the ground for a discussion for Wikidata stage 2.
It totally makes sense that I asked Ladsgroup directly to perform the task since after the discussion was raised by {U|Airon90)) other editors (Chmarkine, Pigsonthewing) supported it. Ladsgroup participated in this discussion.
In these 3 discussions and the template changes no editor raised any concerns. Moreover, Dexbot followed a normal procedure prior to approval and the approval was published in The Signpost. The first concerns raised now 6 months after the bot task was approved. -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:57, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
xaosflux Wikidata#Development_history describes the 3 phases. Ladsgroup or TMg (or perhaps Frietjes?) may know more. I am not expert on the matter but I suspect there was somewhere a more central discussion. I'll try to find it. It's been two years since then.
xaosflux Also note that English Wikipedia provides tracking for many Wikidata fields. Category:Wikidata tracking categories. -- Magioladitis (talk) 17:29, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
Magioladitis, you need to gain consensus before removing official website URLs. [109] That is, the community needs to say yes to having a bot add ((official website)) and yes to removing the URLs from enwiki. Perhaps after the holidays you can organize an RfC. SarahSV (talk) 16:43, 24 December 2016 (UTC)
SarahSV There two different things there: One the conversion has only to do with tracking at the moment. The removal is a different thing but since it is do, is there a consensus not to use Wikidata? -- Magioladitis (talk) 16:45, 24 December 2016 (UTC)
OK. I can stay away from removing urls until this is settled. -- Magioladitis (talk) 16:48, 24 December 2016 (UTC)
Fram if some of the redirects of e the dab templates are not in AWB's hard code, thet will cause AWB to tag as orphan, underlinked etc. disambiguation pages. Every time a new redirect is added a new AWB release will be needed. -- Magioladitis (talk) 11:45, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
Fram exactly. I am not replacing them. Problems usually occur when people use older versions etc. -- Magioladitis (talk) 12:22, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
@GoingBatty:": I think you can comment whether removing the redirects from WP:AWB/TR will affect anything. I think it will affect hatnote merging for starts. -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:18, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
@Fram, Xaosflux, and Spinningspark:. I would like also to ask @Anomie: if they still use this page for their bot. -- Magioladitis (talk) 18:20, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
Hello Magioladitis, some editors have expressed concerns with your membership in the bot approvals group. We do not have any formal policies related to managing group membership. Once you are unblocked would you volunteer for a reconfirmation discussion? I think this would be better then having a no-confidence type proceeding as you could better present yourself. I would prefer any such discussions to be on hold until you are able to participate. Thank you, — xaosflux Talk 15:30, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
Xaosflux no problem. As soon as I am able to edit I 'll comment. Where is the discussion exactly? I was not at home the last 2 days. -- Magioladitis (talk) 17:26, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
Hchc2009 I try to reply in every section left behind this section. I do not have any problem with a reconfirmation discussion. If someone opens it I 'll be happy to participate. The Dexbot issue is already underway anyway. -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:06, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
Hchc2009 Wikipedia_talk:Bot_Approvals_Group#Magioladitis_reconfirmation. -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:23, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
Xaosflux I noticed. Thanks. -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:21, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
A meeting of the educators participating in "CorfuPedia" took place in a book store in Corfu last week. I am the coordinator of this wonderful project. One of project's goals is also to increase female participation in Wikipedia. It's supported by "Why Women Don't Edit Wikipedia" under a WMF grant. -- Magioladitis (talk) 18:49, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
Hi Magioladitis, are you willing to help sort this out by giving certain undertakings? For example, you could request that AWB be removed from your Magioladitis account for a certain period (for the sake of argument, three months), and that when it's restored you won't run genfixes. As for Yobot, you could request that approval be revoked and that you will re-apply for each task you want to run. Are those steps you would consider? SarahSV (talk) 20:04, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
SarahSV Sorry for my short answers today. I 've been travelling all day. I respect you as an editor and volunteer. Let me underline some things:
If we are to think of a solution it has to be dynamic. I after your comments, etc. there are only 1 or 2 things that are still annoying with AWB. Am I wrong? -- Magioladitis (talk) 20:48, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
@SlimVirgin: I updated T141346 to high priority. I'll check it during the next weekend. -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:37, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
Spinningspark we can't work with hard code neither. I may have another idea. I 'll discuss it offline first and come back to you. -- Magioladitis (talk) 06:48, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
@SlimVirgin: T141346 is now fixed. FixHeadings: if a sub-heading directly after a heading don't add blank line before sub-heading. I think this is what you requested, right? -- Magioladitis (talk) 07:56, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
@SlimVirgin: what is the result of the centralised discussion? -- Magioladitis (talk) 15:35, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
Are you still engaged in automated editing? For example, you did this or this seven times in one minute. You were unblocked on condition of not doing that. [110][111] SarahSV (talk) 23:17, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
Any reason I should not indefinitely block you for edits like this and this? Yobot was blocked for doing these, then you were blocked for doing these with AWB, and now you simply do them manually. Slowly doing useless, cosmetic-only, already objected against edits is just a slower form of disruption, and an indication that you don't care about any of the complaints you received so far. Fram (talk) 08:54, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
I added some nbsp per guidelines. -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:58, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
Fram So the problem was not the bot making trivial edits afteral? The problem is that I did 4(???) edits that did not add non-breaking space. -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:42, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
|1=
in the infobox. This is not cosmetic. I think our definitions on cosmetic differ. -- Magioladitis (talk) 11:00, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
MSGJ do you think that this edit is OK or not? -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:46, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
Fram I do not understand why you ask me this! Really I don't! -- Magioladitis (talk) 11:39, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) Magioladitis, I appreciate wikignomes. They do tremendously important work that is rarely thanked or even noticed. It seems you're not really listening to what the community is saying to you and you're exhausting people's patience. Please please please stop riling people with cosmetic changes. If you are unclear whether a change is cosmetic or not, don't do it. It's very easy to not do something, especially as you are editing manually. Really, I'd hate to see you get blocked for this. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 12:27, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
Fram's behavior, unintentionally, discourages people form editing Wikipedia. They just isolated 2 edits of my yesterday's editing and evaluated them.
So what is the catch here: Do we (as community) want people to add, for instance, non-breaking spaces on pages? In my impression Fram does not like any of my edits. Not those 2-3 ones. Otherwise making 2-3 null edits in a series of good edits should have given me their apperception instead of making negative comments. I yesterday improves 100+ pages by adding non breaking spaces. Did I receive a thank you for that? No. But I received a complain for removing a useless pipe from an infobox. This is not a nice environment to work in.
On the other issue:
Do we (as community) care about the other Wikipedia projects? If yes, then we care about Wikidata. This is the best tool we have to compare data. Fram already said that they do not care about Wikidata. One of the largest projects on Wikimedia right now. Fram never helped in comparing data between Wikipedias.
Wiidata will help us with categories such as Category:Living people on EN wiki who are dead on other wikis.
Now what Fram and some other want? To remove all tracking that could help us in comparing and return back to the time we used external tools to achieve this. This is not progress. -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:01, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
Slimvirgin did an edit that did not affect the visual output: [112]. -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:07, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
[113] Am I missing some tiny aspect here, or was all you did in this edit the addition of some spaces which have no effect at all on the page? I.e. just another example of the thing numerous people now have asked you to stop doing? Fram (talk) 13:28, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
Hi,
Last year you mentioned about "pp." being present in loads of book infoboxes. It's taken me almost a year longer than I thought it would to get this done, but I thought I'd let you know that I've got JWB working, removing "pp." from all ~130 of the 500 infobox book articles I could access with the tool, taking about 45 mins of light work. There are apparently over 38,000 instances of Template:Infobox book in the mainspace, making this perhaps about 1%-2% of the total work. I'm going to see whether the author of WP:JWB can make the tool access the rest of the articles, but in the meantime have noticed that lots of them have very un-granular parameters, with lots of data chucked in there from lots of different editions. If we managed to fix this, the "pages" formatting could be fixed as the templates are migrated.
Anyways, hope you've had a good 2016, and hope 2017 is even better! ‑‑YodinT 01:24, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
Task 27 has been approved for a small trial. — xaosflux Talk 05:02, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
Thanks! Rubbish computer (HALP!: I dropped the bass?) 20:18, 20 December 2016 (UTC) |
I start my vacation this weekend. I'll try now to be online that often. I may do some editing but probably it's going to be via my mobile. -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:23, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
Rubbish computer (HALP!: I dropped the bass?) is wishing you a Merry Christmas! This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Happy New Year!
Spread the cheer by adding ((subst:Xmas2)) to their talk page with a friendly message.
--Rubbish computer (HALP!: I dropped the bass?) 14:24, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
From the icy Canajian north; to you and yours! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 23:17, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
@Bgwhite and Ladsgroup: After reports, I think it's better if CHECKWIKI errors 7, 19, 25, 83 are not done by Yobot anymore. Dexbot's code is much better on that area. -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:41, 27 December 2016 (UTC)
Is there is a reason that having two spaces in front of an ISBN in the text is problematic? [114][115][116][117][118][119]... The version before your change also showed the ISBN and the number in blue, and linked to booksources, so your change seems unnecessary. Fram (talk) 07:26, 24 December 2016 (UTC)
The magic links soon won't be working" What's that about? I add ISBNs for books throughout the encyclopedia, happy in the knowledge that they'll automagically link to book sources. Please explain. Thanks. PamD 08:11, 24 December 2016 (UTC)
They contacted people who have major dealings with ISBNs", which didn't include Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Books - I suppose it means "They contacted people who have major dealings with the technical details of handling ISBNs". Anyway, it all seems done and dusted, and I used the ((ISBN)) template in an edit this morning and accept that this is just another piece of "progress" whose immediate impact on me personally is a mild negative. Season's Greetings to editors of all sorts! PamD 11:20, 27 December 2016 (UTC)
PamD I am not an expert on that. As you may have noticed I also discovered this scheduled change by asking around. I requested a bot Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/Yobot_27 to change all existing ISBN links. -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:03, 27 December 2016 (UTC)
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or ((notatypo)) would probably be the best option. Also, AWB won't "fix" anything inside those two options.By the way Bgwhite, an ISBN in "external links" is usually an error. Books belong in "further reading"This isn't what I was meaning. I mean an external link, such as used in refs... [http://books.google.com/books?l343ooj2 ''Tale of Two Cities'' ISBN 0-7475-3269-9 p.24] With the ISBN inside the link, a Magiclink won't work. An ISBN template does work. However, anything after the ISBN template is no longer part of the external link and will not be linked blue. Most of the time this is fine, but not all, which is why fixing these are being done manually. Also, many bots won't change things inside an external link, so those bots couldn't be used to convert magic links to external links.
Sigh. There is no reason to use code to check the ISBN numbers, and if there was it would be better to use the ISBN magic than overload the template system. Moreover Spinningspark is correct that the current design of Cite totally overlinks such that ISBN is now the most-linked to article. It also broke the previous method of tagging incorrect ISBNs.
In my opinion the way the Wiki works best is as an ecology of templates, MediaWiki, bot and humans editors (including cyborgs like Stiki).
All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 17:39, 27 December 2016 (UTC).
Not sure that's possible...but one can always try. :-)
Thanks very much for the lovely hardware. Happy new year, and happy editing into 2017! --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 12:45, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
Ser Amantio di Nicolao If Bgwhite is right, you don't sleep so you probably spend some hours just loading. :) I get a 6 hour sleep every night thus if I could reduce this I could do 25% edits per day. Think about it :D -- Magioladitis (talk) 12:48, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
-- Magioladitis, 2016
PS. The Cosmetic Theorem does not give any clue for the other direction nor contains a solid definition of "cosmetic". The term appeared for the first time before 2009 from a pyscript which pybots could optionally turn on. The script was doing very trivial staff and soon got outdated. Back then editors were getting approval to run pybots and the phenomenon of people running this script solely appeared. The script soon became unused. In 2010, the term "cosmetic" was connected for the first time with some of AWB's general fixes. It was the first time that the term was not 100% determined by a closed set of actions since AWB's general fixed included 100+ syntax fixes of all kinds. It was very later that the term "cosmetic" tried to be connected with "no changes to the visual outcome". Community practice / common logic in many on-wiki activities shows that very often the community by consensus (sometimes a weak consensus, some other times a strong one) decides to make changes that change the wikicode without changing the visual outcome. -- Magioladitis (talk) 14:15, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
Hello Magioladitis, I have closed your BAG reconfirmation as unsuccessful. Please see the closing note. Thank you for all of the uncontroversial parts of your BAG service. Best regards, — xaosflux Talk 16:52, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
Xaosflux Thanks for letting me know. It was the wise thing to do. Independently10 of the reasons the most important is the trust within the community. -- Magioladitis (talk) 19:29, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
Because we often forget to give credit where credit is due, I wanted to thank you for being more open and interacting at WT:Bot policy, etc. relating to community norms for cosmetic bot editing. I appreciate the willingness to step back and take another look. ~ Rob13Talk 10:06, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
BU Rob13 Many greeting to you too. I wish you a Happy New Year. -- Magioladitis (talk) 10:18, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
I don't know why, but your bot royally screwed up many WP:ANIME assessments, which doesn't even match the project's assessment scale when you merged ((WikiProject Yu-Gi-Oh!)) in as a work group. (example) I am trying to fix the issue, but be more careful next time. —Farix (t | c) 13:26, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
Farix I did these manually. Since there were no instructions of how to treat duplicated importance I choose randomly the highest and I expected WikiProject people to lower if needed. -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:37, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
Farix OK. Sorry. -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:44, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
Hi Magioladitis
Please refrain from editing sections of the Arbitration requests other than your own as per this diff. Sections such as this should only be edited by the Clerks and Arbitrators. If you spot an error in one of these sections feel free to bring it to mine or another clerks attention so we can remedy it. Amortias (T)(C) 23:31, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
OK thanks. -- Magioladitis (talk) 23:31, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
My thanks above appears to be premature, unfortunately. The following edits are all violations of AWB rule of use #4. [120] [121] [122] [123] [124] Since you are an administrator, AWB access cannot be revoked, which leaves a block as the only possibility. If this persists, this is going to have to go back to ANI, where a block is going to be borderline inevitable. In short, if a visual change isn't made to the page, you must not make the edit with AWB. You must review all your edits to ensure they're non-cosmetic. The community is at wit's end here, as am I. If you genuinely do not know what a cosmetic edit is at this point, go by the rule of thumb that the edit shouldn't be made when in any doubt and ask others about specific edge cases. ~ Rob13Talk 18:40, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
@BU Rob13: This added a nbsp dictated by the manual of style. I should question you I think about not wanting these changes. I am also not sure how you know what the ANI will decide. It's nice to see that you added yourself in the list of people who spent time watching my edits. It turns I offer free drama for New Year's Eve. -- Magioladitis (talk) 20:47, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
I have no quarrel with your deeply-held conviction that all articles' wikicode should be spotless. I do have a quarrel with you implementing that conviction using AWB, contrary to community consensus. There is a difference between the manual of style stating we should do X when possible and stating we should do X at high-speeds across thousands of pages using a bot or bot-like behavior. There are plenty of things on-wiki that people believe are positive but shouldn't be implemented with a bot or high-speed editing. This WP:IDONTHEARTHAT take on cosmetic-only edits is not going to work in perpetuity. ~ Rob13Talk 21:27, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
OK good luck with the ANI then. You'll try to convince you are right. Me too. You never provided a definition of what is a cosmetic edit. -- Magioladitis (talk) 21:29, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
BU Rob 13 for example removeUselessSpaces you refer is from an old python script and does nothing of what I did. I am not sure you know exactly what you are talking about. Where is the definition? I need a link to a Wikipedia page. You for example indicated as a cosmetic an edit that add nbsp and affects the rendered output! -- Magioladitis (talk) 21:36, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
SarahSV Wikipedia was built by people like you and some other persons who enjoy spending their entire day in front of a screen. Other people would probably be "smarter" and many of the things you write would be now featured in a magazine or a book for profit.
The reason I stand for this now is because I don't like to see people get disappointed and leave Wikipedia because they got discouraged. I recall editors who did serious crap while editing. But usually they were driven away because of bad behaviours. Editing Wikipedia should be fun and relaxing if it is not then it's not worth it. I 've been admin for many years. I used my blocking tool very rarely. Because, I don;t want to risk to disappoint people. I recall a student of mine that came to me crying because someone reverted a good faith edit was vandalism. I don't want this. So, I am here to spend much of time enjoying and at the same making a better Encyclopedia.
These are random thoughts but soon we will make a meaning I hope. -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:32, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
Magioladitis, I think all that other editors want is for you to cut down on truly cosmetic edits (those that don't change the rendered output). Is there any way you can do that? I don't think you have to have 100% perfection on this count, but if you can get in the high 90's, I think most will be pleased.
But I will make a devil's advocate point as well for those who don't like the cosmetic edits -- what exactly is the problem? I might be able to guess that it is considered disruptive (or potentially so). Magioladitis isn't causing any damage with the edits. At worst, one could say he is "tidying the code". Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 01:19, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
Stevietheman Thanks. See that BU Rob13 fails to show me where this definition fo "cosmetic" is. Where si defined "cosmetic" as "does not affect the rendered output? BU Rob 13 gave me the same definition but no link. They have me a links to COSMETICBOT that says the cosmetic bots are not allowed but there is no definition there. A definition can't start with "An example of a cosmetic edit is...". Do you see what my point is? Every time I try to write down a definition the reply is "no need". If there are gray areas it's easier for people to complain. See for example that RU Rob 13 complained for an edit that added a non-breaking space.
Notice that Ramaksound2000 in order to reply for a cosmetic change they did they provided a link to WP:FILEMOVE i.e. Another policy. Does it make sense for a policy to contradict another policy? It should not really. The trick is that "cosmetic edits" are not the ones that just "Do not affect the visual outcome". BU Rob 13 admitted that "consensus" or "other policies" override this rule. But still this is not written in the COSMETICBOT policy which during year it changed from just preventing pybots to solely use a certain script that did appr. 10 whitespaces changes to something else.
I was even accused for doing COSMETICBOT changes without a bot! It started "without a bot account but with a bot-like style" and something exented to "a bot-like behaviour" and sometimes even again "cosmetic changes" in general. Sometimes by people who did not like edits that are explicitly written in the Manual of Style. -- Magioladitis (talk) 04:52, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
"Do not make insignificant or inconsequential edits. An edit that has no noticeable effect on the rendered page is generally considered an insignificant edit. If in doubt, or if other editors object to edits on the basis of this rule, seek consensus at an appropriate venue before making further similar edits."
Jonesey95 yes this edit should not have happened. But I even see administrators questioning whether CHECKWIKI error #64, #16, #48, etc. is purely cosmetic i.e. useless. I already wrote in the ArbCom: I agree "not to make changes that do not affect what the reader sees" as long as this discussion is active. This agreements does not mean I agree that this could be the definition of "cosmetic". This means I agree not to make edits that include what I think are "cosmetic" as subset. i.e. "edits that do do not affect what the reader sees" are a subset of the edit the community should not allow to be done as sole edits in mass scale. If I don't stand for this now then the COSMETICBOT policy will become a tool for more people to get blocked etc. Policies need to be explicit especially when there is a history of conflicts behind.
Happy new year. -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:31, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
Stevietheman Thanks for asking! In my opinion:
I am willing to cooperate with every possible way. I even willing to give way all my bot tasks. Some of them I inherited by other bot operators anyway. -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:14, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
Fram remains by favourite edit stalker. They give advice on the fly. :) -- Magioladitis (talk) 14:22, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
When I first encountered Erik9 I suspected that they are probably a sock-puppet. I still did not investigate further because their edits seems useful. The same for the bot tasks they suggested. I even tried to take over some of them. Very fast Erik9 became bot owner and perhaps if they were patient enough they could make it to become sysops. John254 started editing in 2006. As Andrea105 they started editing in 2009 and they even got bot approval.
See also: Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/IncidentArchive566#Erik9_appears_to_be_the_sock_of_a_banned_user. -- Magioladitis (talk) 00:16, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
Could you provide an up-to-date list of what CHECKWIKI fixes were being implemented by Yobot when it last ran? My intention is to go over these to see how the task might be altered to be re-approved in the future, at least to some degree. Thanks, much appreciated. ~ Rob13Talk 00:21, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
The big fails was the error #104 because it was expanded in Wikipedia:WikiProject Check Wikipedia/List of errors .
For the attempt done AWB to match CHECKWIKI check Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Check_Wikipedia/Archive_8#AWB_fixes.2Fdetects_more_of_some_errors. This means that 2 years ago we had far more errors than nowadays. That's why I said that error get fixed. Also note that the vast majority of errors has been reported by me and not by other. -- Magioladitis (talk) 00:43, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
When Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/Yobot 16 CHECKWIKI had 90 errors. I also have approval to 101 separately only because I use a more explicit edit summary: Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/Yobot 20. As you may see some numbers have already changed. Some errors were abandoned due to change of consensus or got outdated. -- Magioladitis (talk) 01:01, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
The approval is for CHECKWIKI fixing based on the logic that CHECKWIKI is community driven i.e. the errors are purposed and worked by the community. -- Magioladitis (talk) 01:09, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
Only this task changes based on CHECKWIKI. I already have written that the source of the bug is that CHECKWIKI changes and usually it takes me 2-3 days to realise it. -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:13, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
The draft list had 38 errors and 1 error was approved separately. Altogether 39.
Differences nowadays:
Right now Yobot loads 40 errors.
Big explosions happened mainly when 69 expanded to cover much more cases and the now famous 104 explosion which resulted in both Yobot and Dexbot to get crazy. The 55 explosion did not affect Yobot because I was aware one day before it will happen. Now that WikiCleanerBot provides also the number of pages to be fixed we have a better way to control things. Me, Bgwhite and NicoV doing a great effort to synchronize our lists and methods. We are getting better and better. -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:35, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
I don't think anyone is attacking CheckWiki here or implying you've done anything wrong.Then you haven't read this page or the ARB request.
It's the use of error-prone bots to do CheckWiki tasks which is facing scrutinyAgain, other people, including me, do Checkwiki tasks. Do you see us in trouble? No. Do you see us blocked? No. If Yobot gets stripped of tasks or shut down, I'll bet we all get shut down. Guilt by association. Bgwhite (talk) 10:40, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
My method to run Yobot in huge untested links brought Yobot in trouble. That and nothing else. -- Magioladitis (talk) 10:56, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
I hope the ArbCom discussion will reveal many things. -- Magioladitis (talk)
BU Rob13 I hope you ll spend some time providing a definition of is a cosmetic-only edit. I never wrote I won't do "cosmetic edits" during the ArbCom because I don't understand the definition. -- Magioladitis (talk) 11:45, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
@Bgwhite: You complain that no one has asked you a question in the same post that you declare you have turned off your e-mail! Well I have asked a question about AWB here that may be relevant to this discussion. Perhaps you would care to answer it. SpinningSpark 12:27, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
The main goal of Hilbert's program was to provide secure foundations for all mathematics. In particular this should include:
-- Magioladitis (talk) 02:11, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
While looking at some SPA activity at Sandro Salsano, I happened to chance upon this user YobotLinux who was making some changes. I actually mistook it for a bot the first time, but then realised that bots usually have bot at the end of the name. I am not sure if this is an attempt to impersonate Yobot. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 09:22, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
Lemongirl942 Thanks for the heads up. Not sure how we handle this. Till now the activity is low. -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:27, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
Rubbish computer (HALP!: I dropped the bass?) 10:36, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
I hope that ArbCom is able to establish support for the good things that you have been able to do with your bot and AWB. I cannot say that I understand the problems raised or how often they occur, but I am continually aware of the many times when I have seen you and your bots around making improvements in articles which I edit.
Thanks for everything you do. Happy new year. Blue Rasberry (talk) 20:08, 3 January 2017 (UTC) |
Bluerasberry thanks my friend. I hope logic will prevail. -- Magioladitis (talk) 20:28, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
You were recently listed as a party to a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Magioladitis. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Magioladitis/Evidence. Please add your evidence by January 17, 2017, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Magioladitis/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. For the Arbitration Committee, Amortias (T)(C) 22:40, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
Amortias What kind of evidence should I submit? I do not know anything more about Ramaksoud2000. -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:44, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
Amortias Thanks. Let's see. We are still in middle of vacation. -- Magioladitis (talk) 23:32, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
No offence to anyone. Nothing to do with the current situation. I won't edit Wikipedia for the next 5 days. I won't reply to any messages. Real life. -- Magioladitis (talk) 23:23, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
Hi Magio, I want to give you an example of how ref reordering is a burden. I know this isn't an AWB default anymore; I'm just pointing out a real current example of the problem.
Yobot moved the refs at Disappearance of Madeleine McCann in December. This is a sensitive article that needs the refs to be placed carefully. Because it was a bot edit, it didn't show up on my watchlist. All subsequent edits to the article were fine, until today, when a new editor made edits that need to be reverted. So now I look at the history, and I see that Yobot has reordered refs, but because other good edits intervened, I can't just revert to pre-Yobot.
Maybe Yobot's edits were fine and can be left in place, but maybe not. I will have to read every source that Yobot moved, read the text, and decide (again) the order in which to place the references. Not all the sources are online. One is a book for which Google Books shows some pages. If the pages I need are not online, I will have to go to a library to get that book out again.
This is just one example of the cost of Yobot's edits, and it's the kind of cost that typically isn't factored in when we assess whether a bot is useful overall. SarahSV (talk) 00:08, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
It appears you are running Yobot's CHECKWIKI job on your main account. Those edits appear to be circumventing the ongoing block on Yobot, which should pause all of its tasks until the bot is unblocked.
It also appears that you are saving edits such as [126] [127], which violate the AWB rules of use, even when made manually. — Carl (CBM · talk) 16:49, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
CBM This is CHECKWIKI APPROVED TASK.Jonesey95 I thought I had only to stop during the evidence phase. OK. I'll keep it till the end of the ArbCom compltetelly. -- Magioladitis (talk) 17:46, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
CBM This is your interpretation. Yobot is blocked for not doing what was meant to do. Since every other editor is allowed to contribute in this task, I can't understand why you want me, among all people, not to participate in a project I helped the most for years. I am very sad with this. I apologise for not understanding I had to keep away from these edit for the entire process (which takes weeks!!!) but not for trying to help CHECKWIKI project. -- Magioladitis (talk) 18:11, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
CBM Are other are allowed to do these edits? Are other editors allowed to do this edits w/o AWB? -- Magioladitis (talk) 18:33, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
Jonesey95 OK. I extend my promise until the entire ArbCom is completed. -- Magioladitis (talk) 19:21, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
CBM Are all the errors in that list allowed to be done by me or other editors then? I can't recall the history of when Error 1 was added. -- Magioladitis (talk) 19:37, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
CBM Error was added in 31 December 2013. It generates less than 100 pages per month. -- Magioladitis (talk) 19:47, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
CBM This is just the proof when the error was added. The error list is not in my userspace! -- Magioladitis (talk) 20:14, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
CBM First of all, the list is not random. It is decided by a group of people how contribute/participate in the CHECKWIKI project. In the BRFA I have an sample list exactly because many of the errors change numbers, some were abandoned (for example you are familiar with the DEFAULTSORT addition which after the Mediawiki bug was fixed, CHECKWIKI removed it). CHECKWIKI errors are decided by consensus in the list. Ofcourse, you are free to contribute. As you may see I am mainly the person who implements the various decisions rather the person who actually proposes things. -- Magioladitis (talk) 20:24, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
CBM The wrong number of = signs is fixed manually or by Dexbot. AWB tries and fixes few of them. On the other hand #1 was added because of people trying history merge to other Wikipedias as far as I remember. The change of errors is not that often I think. Sure, ay input that could make the project better and more accurrate is welcome. -- Magioladitis (talk) 20:35, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
Hi Magioladitis, the cosmetic-only edits using AWB seem to have started again. [128][129] SarahSV (talk) 17:24, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
SlimVirgin I know about those two edits. Someone else wrote me already. I just removed whitespace to reduce space and as you can see I revisited the pages to do more improvements. I did more than 500 edits yesterday. Please stop reporting these things and focus in actual errors. -- Magioladitis (talk) 17:28, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
Today's digging in the unblock history of my bot revealed the truth I already knew but I did not have enough time to write. All unblocks were in communication with the blocking admin and unrelated to the current ArbCom. I see a pattern formulated here in order to make things appear worse than really are.
The same pattern was followed with the "improper deletions" because I deleted templates after a closed TfD which was later striken out.
At the meantime, it's not clear if the people who are against fast editing (or something like that) would be OK with a technical solution was really given. I would expect from people complaining that my edits hide vandalism to have evidence about it. Still no evidence, ever presented while this was supposed to be the main argument against the bot editing.
Other issues involve "controversial changes". After this recently was resolved. One of the remaining arguments was in fact gone away. What it remains is the "unclear edit summaries" and "not doing what is supposed to be doing". The problem is that these arguments do not give a reason why an editor can't do the same changes uless we go back to square 1: the watchlists. -- Magioladitis (talk) 21:32, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
Iryna Harpy (talk) is wishing you Seasons Greetings! Whether you celebrate your hemisphere's Solstice or Christmas, Diwali, Hogmanay, Hanukkah, Lenaia, Festivus or even the Saturnalia, this is a special time of year for almost everyone!
Spread the holiday cheer by adding ((subst:User:WereSpielChequers/Dec16a)) to your friends' talk pages.
-- Magioladitis (talk) 10:54, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
Jonesey95 I agree. Removing a hidden category is a good edit. I hope everybody agrees. Recall that Dexbot was standardising the official website format to allow data comparison between en.wp and Wikidata. This is also a good edit. -- Magioladitis (talk) 15:17, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
Jonesey95 I would like also to underline that CHECKWIKI error 3 fixes affect Category:Pages with missing references list. Maybe I should have said that before the task was declined. Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/Yobot 40. -- Magioladitis (talk) 15:22, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
Hi Magioladitis. I noticed that you've been filing quite a few BRFAs over the past 24 hours, and while I don't typically participate in that forum, I do keep an eye on it out of pure personal curiosity. I'm a little concerned that your flood of requests may overwhelm the process, especially if it continues much longer. I see that you've been encouraged to be more specific with each individual task, so it's natural that there will be multiple requests, but 20 in one day seems excessive to me. The BAG is stretched rather thin to begin with, and I'm worried that this will ultimately make things harder for you and other bot operators when BAG members and other contributors aren't able to keep up. Don't you think it's a good idea to limit further requests to the most important tasks, at least until some of the current ones are processed? – Juliancolton | Talk 13:42, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
Juliancolton Most of them were already approved in the past and already performed by other bots. Unfortunatelly, Menobot is also not working since its owner is busy in real life. Since now CHECKWIKI is one bot down I think we have to hurry up to catch up with the increasing log. -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:44, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
I won't add any others today. -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:49, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
Slakr I agree with you. And in fact right now it gives the impression a cenrtalised discussion is avoided. There are posing questions to me like I am e person who wrote every single policy, the entire Manual of Style and the entire AWB code. I flattered but this not how it goes. -- Magioladitis (talk) 20:42, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
It seems you may have misunderstood my recommendation on your BRFAs that you limit yourself to 5 requests at a time as meaning "5 created per day". I'll restate it again more clearly: I recommend there be at most five requests total for bots you operate in the "Current requests for approval", "Bots in a trial period", and "Bots that have completed the trial period" sections at WP:BRFA. I am not suggesting that you withdraw any of the 14 open BRFAs you have now, only that you do not add any more until enough are closed to bring down the backlog. Anomie⚔ 13:25, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
Anomie OK. I'll start creating drafts for the others pending the ones active. This process will take months then unless everyone gives more effort to help. -- Magioladitis (talk) 14:03, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
It turns it's been more than 10 days and no BRFAs have been still approved. 1 finished the bot trial. So in order to reach the 112 CHECKWIKI errors + 40(?) CHECKWIKI-like tasks we will next more than 6 months to end this process. At the meantime today CHECKWIKI had 3,700 unfixed pages marking a season's record. -- Magioladitis (talk) 23:33, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
The last 5 hours I keep pressing Ctr+S to do a task a bot would do in less than 1 hour. This is the result of the latest wikihounding against me. -- Magioladitis (talk) 23:30, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
Hi! I noticed that in the past, you've been involved in improving Hearsay Social. I'm hoping you can help with some edits to that article, which hasn't been significantly updated in several years. I've proposed and mocked up several updates on the article's Talk page, including updating the company name, updating the infobox, and fleshing out the details of the page. I work for a communications agency that represents Hearsay, and due to my COI I won't be editing the article myself. Would you be willing to take a look and implement my suggestions or share feedback? Thanks for your time! Mary Gaulke (talk) 03:55, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
Your BRFA, Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/Yobot 48 has been approved. Please see the approval notes. Should you need to expand this in the future, please file a new BRFA. — xaosflux Talk 01:54, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
Thanks. -- Magioladitis (talk) 00:22, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
Hi. Thanks for all the "thanks" but there really is no need. -- Euryalus (talk) 01:41, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
Euryalus No problem. I don't thank every edit. Only the ones I agree. :) -- Magioladitis (talk) 01:42, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
I suspect you know that this comment you made on Ladsgroup's talk is unacceptable. Especially after this thread in which I and another editor objected to your hounding/harassment argument. I realize that cases are stressful, especially as they reach the end, but jumping into conversations you're not directly involved in for the purpose of making accusations against others is clearly inappropriate. If you really believe you are being harassed by another editor, you can bring your complaint to ANI with evidence or, if it is private, email arbcom. Otherwise you cannot cast aspersions this way. (Note: I am in no way suggesting you should take this particular complaint to ANI. I predict that would not end well.) Opabinia regalis (talk) 07:32, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
Opabinia regalis Replied yo you by email. Magioladitis (talk) 07:58, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
Hi Magio, can you say what you did in this edit? The edit summary says: "Removed invisible unicode characters + other fixes, replaced: → (7) using AWB". All I can see is that you added white space, but I may have missed something. SarahSV (talk) 17:50, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
SarahSV Yes, it's a non-breaking character there but it's invisible. I detect those via F&R. This is not general fixes. If you are trying to detect them via Firefox it won't work. You should use chrome. -- Magioladitis (talk) 18:43, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
SarahSV F&R stands for Find & Replace. The other fixes was a minor whitespace change at the bottom. The invisible characters can't show in the edit summary. I just use the built-in automated edit summary of Find and Replace to count the number of invisible characters removed. -- Magioladitis (talk) 18:48, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
SarahSV The reader may see some difference when working in small screens. I replaced a character that was causing large spaces in various screens. On the wikitext part, the editor won't be possible to detect these characters and even accidentally move them in random places when editing since they are not visible. -- Magioladitis (talk) 18:59, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
The non-breaking spaces were wrong: it stops the line breaking at that point which can stop the text flowing properly. It actually does no need a small screen, it can happen at any width, though it will be more obvious with a narrow window or large typeface, such as on mobile. It was incorrect in another way: unicode NBSP characters should never be used as they are very hard to detect, and other editors noticing a problem might be unable to fix it. They should be replaced with the proper HTML markup or a template like ((nowrap)), so other editors can see they are there and the reason for them.--JohnBlackburnewordsdeeds 19:07, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
@SlimVirgin: Usually, it's the result of copy-paste from other sources. -- Magioladitis (talk) 23:43, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
In the article about Andersons Black Rock you said you removed "invisible unicode characters" -- what does that mean? What are the invisible unicode characters? PraeceptorIP (talk) 21:10, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
There are unicode characters that are not shown in the wikieditor. -- Magioladitis (talk) 21:13, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
Well done with this. HOW MANY MORE TIMES do you need to be told to stop this pointless shit? I hope Arbcom come down on you like a ton of bricks and fast. Lugnuts Precious bodily fluids 08:09, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
The double space is not a problem since double spaces are ignored by Mediawiki. So, double space is not equal to normal space + non-breaking space. The edis affet the visual output. and the rendered outcome. -- Magioladitis (talk) 17:26, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
((commons category|U.S. ProVictoria Pallavolo Monza (women's volleyball)‎))
Does removing that make a difference to any reader?SlimVirgin Which browser do you use? As you may see WPCleaner detects those characters too. It's not only my customised AWB settings that do it.-- Magioladitis (talk) 18:34, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
((commons category|U.S. ProVictoria Pallavolo Monza (women's volleyball)‎))
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help a reader? SarahSV (talk) 19:58, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
In recent edits such as this one, Yobot has been adding unnecessary commas next to reference tags. Is it possible to fix this error? Jarble (talk) 20:35, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
Jarble This edit was done in 2015... -- Magioladitis (talk) 20:45, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
Jarble How ca we determine which mark is the correct one? -- Magioladitis (talk) 21:33, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
Jarble there were not added by Yobot. There were there but after the ref tag. Yobot moved them in front. So in fact, there was a mistake before Yobot arrived. -- Magioladitis (talk) 23:50, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
See also that in the list you provided there are things like the U.S., which is not a mistake. There are 7,000 pages. I can even fix everything manually. No bots. Only bare hands.
In this case we needed neither of the two! -- Magioladitis (talk) 23:53, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
Some people are welcome to comment on my talk page. -- Magioladitis (talk) 23:45, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
Jarble you are ofcourse welcome! I wish we had more wikignomes around. -- Magioladitis (talk) 23:48, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
There are some very specific people I have in mind about that. -- Magioladitis (talk) 02:03, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
Requesting for your feedback on my proposal: Wiki Loves Social. DiptanshuTalk 19:27, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
I'll have a look. -- Magioladitis (talk) 19:28, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
Per User talk:Evad37/Watchlist-hideAWB.js now editors can hide AWB edits from their waatchlists. -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:45, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
Your BRFA, Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/Yobot 50, has been approved for initial trial. — xaosflux Talk 00:44, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
Xaosflux Thanks. WPCleaner does not allow customised Edit summaries. I'll see what I can do. WPCleaner has differences of AWB. -- Magioladitis (talk) 16:48, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
Xaosflux I have left a note that "All tasks in these setion are inactive." Should I write something more? -- Magioladitis (talk) 16:56, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
Xaosflux I have a history of bad user pages. My user page is no better. It's a collection of random things. I'll try to work it out. -- Magioladitis (talk) 17:08, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
Xaosflux I provide(d) FAQ and edit notices. Still most of the reports skipped these parts anyway. -- Magioladitis (talk) 17:10, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
That was inappropriate and I've removed it. You should have emailed us with a specific complaint. If the edit in mind is the one I assume it was, it was a request made to do with the PD. Doug Weller talk 14:36, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
Doug Weller OK. I contacted the person in question personally too. Thanks for the remove. I don't know how to handle this. Trying to figure out.It's the first time I run into a similar situation. I beg for help. -- Magioladitis (talk) 14:47, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
I linked the page from other pages. Can the "orphan" tag be removed? If it is the case, can you please do that?
Thanks! --Starnutoditopo (talk) 08:48, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
http://www.folklib.net/index/bibliog/library_a.shtml
http://www.folklib.net/index/discog/bibliog15.shtml#vx
http://www.folklib.net/graphics/book/folklib_bibliog_vx-p331.gif
http://www.folklib.net/graphics/book/folklib_bibliog_vx-p332.gif
Thank you for not deleting the D.K. Wilgus biography links I found. I also scanned his printed biography above. Since 2005, using my personal collection of over 600 music reference books I have tried as an editor to correct and or add small details as I find them. I don't have the writing skills to create a new page from scratch. I hope that someone with those skills can use the three on-line biographies and the above scans as "reliable sources" and create a needed page for the notable folklorist D.K. Wilgus. Thank you. Doug (talk) 21:35, 26 February 2017 (UTC) Doug Henkle 3:25 pm CST, 26 February 2017 - henkle@pobox.com (preferred method of contact)
After reliable sources like the above are found for a topic, how do new pages get assigned to Wikipedia's professional editors? Doug Henkle —Preceding undated comment added 14:33, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
Could you please remove the orphan tag on this article as it no longer an orphan. I am trying to refrain from making possibly controversial edits because of my declared COI.—አቤል ዳዊት?(Janweh64) (talk) 22:36, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
The Original Barnstar | |
Thanks for tidy-up on Simon Wessely. YellowFratello (talk) 18:25, 28 February 2017 (UTC) |
YellowFratello Thank you very much! -- Magioladitis (talk) 19:21, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
Hi Magioladitis,
I'm the bot who is deleting ((Persondata)). I noticed your edit on User:StAnselm/Domenic Johansson custody case in which you added ((Persondata)). This template is deprecated and deleted. Please stop adding ((Persondata)). In case you want to support the Persondata project you can help with the migration of the dataset to Wikidata at KasparBot's tool. See Wikipedia:Persondata or contact my operator T.seppelt in case you have any questions.
Thank you very much, -- KasparBot (talk) 01:00, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
You noticed an edit I did in 2013... -- Magioladitis (talk) 01:04, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
Please avoid edits such as [130]. — Carl (CBM · talk) 12:31, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
OK. I stop the #64 via WPCleaner too. I wonder where this stops. -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:57, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
Headbomb WP:NOPIPEDLINK reads: "Never use piped links to convert the first letter to lower case". -- Magioladitis (talk) 19:13, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
Headbomb Since Carl wants no bot edits to contain general fixes, how is supposed this edit to be done exactly? -- Magioladitis (talk) 19:27, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
Headbomb So ANY bot that does this edit as sole edit should stop? Even if there are BRFAs that support their actions? Menobot for example? -- Magioladitis (talk) 19:41, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
Btw, Do you see that I was doing less than 1 edit per minute, right? -- Magioladitis (talk) 19:43, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
Headbomb Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/MenoBot 4. -- Magioladitis (talk) 20:06, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
I have given all the links before. Still trying to understand if this is some consensus that changed probably without telling to the bot owners. -- Magioladitis (talk) 20:14, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
Headbomb Meno used error 17 as test edits. They did not mention anything on doing the edits "only when there's a larger more substantial edit to be made". I take it that these edits are OK then. Thanks, Magioladitis (talk) 20:32, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
My edit summary was perfect clear because I used WPCleaner. So I did ONLY and EXACTLY was was written in the edit summary. -- Magioladitis (talk) 20:37, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
Headbomb I am happy that after a month and with the ArbCom almost closed you decide to open the real can of worms here. -- Magioladitis (talk) 20:53, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
We all three were/are doing general fixes in selected lists. This worked for 7 years or more. Now you make it sound that were re doing something illegal. Cool. -- Magioladitis (talk) 20:54, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
Headbomb I would be more than happy if we work a community solution. Right now everything is done under the threat of blocking and restricting because you assume that your proposal have clear consensus. My bot approvals and the other bot approvals, the CHECKWIKI project all look like something the community overlooked. This is not the ground of a fair discussion. -- Magioladitis (talk) 21:00, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
Headbomb I don't say that you have bad intentions. I now that you are working for a clear solution. Sorry for the with hunt expression. -- Magioladitis (talk) 21:02, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
Headbomb My problem is that till now the discussion is not done centralised. I said that before the Arbom started. This tactic favors the ones who complain. The benefits of bots fixing syntax have not been supported because I think the supporters did not have the chance to do it. -- Magioladitis (talk) 21:06, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
Headbomb Your proposal for doing things "in addition to other tasks" is something not many people support as far as I understand. There are people complaining that these edits are done anyway. Moreover, if we strip out Yobot, no bot really remains to do things "in addition to other tasks". The previous bot was SmackBot. -- Magioladitis (talk) 21:08, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
Headbomb I guess you don't like WP:CHECKWIKI as a project that helps fixing syntax things... -- 21:23, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
Error 64 has consensus to be done as sole edit per instructions and WP:CHECKWIKI till it is decided otherwise. -- Magioladitis (talk) 21:28, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
Headbomb but where is the discussion on the specific CHECKWIKI errors? Where have you been sine 2008 where the project started? It's been 9 years. -- Magioladitis (talk) 21:34, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
Headbomb Where and is this community discussion going to happen anyway? I am confused. -- Magioladitis (talk) 21:36, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
Headbomb I'll take a 10 minute wikibreak because I may be not reading well what you are writing. I'll be back in 10 minutes. -- Magioladitis (talk) 21:38, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
Headbomb See also how many of my latest edits are actually not changing anything. There are much less that you may think. you have good AWB experience and you'll realise that. Moreover, after this edit I reported to NicoV and WPCleaner was improved. Next time all empty tags will be removed at once. -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:26, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
Before they are more complains today. The last run was a mistake. Some edits were only meant to verify that the issue has been fixed and not to actually fix anything. -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:42, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
Hi Marios Magioladitis, I'm from Bengali wikipedia. Two months ago, on the phabricator i asked for this. but No one did not answer. Even i ased here but nobody didn't answer anything. Can you do it? If not who can? Who should i contact for this? Waiting for your answer. Thanks --Aftabuzzaman (talk) 22:31, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
Can a category be redirected to article space? I just ran across this Category:Far-right subcultures, which is redirected to the article Far-right subcultures. That makes no sense, right? ---The Old JacobiteThe '45 13:40, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
TheOldJacobite It makes no sense and it should be deleted. There is even a criterion for that. -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:41, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
Pppery True. My mistake. -- Magioladitis (talk) 21:21, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
Pppery Another editor changed it to C1. I'll go with "housekeeping. Non-controversial." -- Magioladitis (talk) 21:22, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
Why did you add refimprove to this page? What specifically needs citations? --Legalize (talk) 22:16, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
Legalize The template was already there but with bad name. I did not add it. I only added the reflist. You may remove the tag if you want. -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:19, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
Looks like there was already a References section and someone added an empty RefList section where you added the tag. I'm going to remove the section entirely as it appears to serve no purpose. You might want to consider improving the revision messages you are using. The message left was rather cryptic and doesn't seem to apply at all to this page.--Legalize (talk) 22:23, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
OK. Thanks. -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:24, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
Hallo Mag... In this edit to Msila it looks as if your AWB settings didn't recognise that ((Geodisambig)) redirects to ((Geodis)) - you didn't recognise the page as a dab page so called it a stub and an orphan. PamD 22:38, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
PamD I fixed it. Thanks for the heads up. -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:39, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
Hi there, we had an edit conflict on the page Ashtoret lunaris when I was expanding the article, I had to overwrite your edits so you may need to go back to repeat them, as well as do whatever it is you do to the rest of the text (I can never see the edits). Quetzal1964 12:09, 4 March 2017 (UTC) User talk:Quetzal1964
User:Quetzal1964 It's OK. I redid the edit! Thanks for the kind message. -- Magioladitis (talk) 12:32, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
Hi Magiloladitis. I am Thapene, new comer. I just made an article namely Ban Thapene, about one village in Luang Prabang, Laos. Thanks for your contribution so far. I would also like your help to further review this article for approval. Best. Thapene — Preceding unsigned comment added by Banthapenlaos (talk • contribs) 06:38, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
Hi Magioladitis! In this edit you changed ((WikiProject Panama)) to ((WikiProject Central America)) under the Panama task force, but the Panama task force has been migrated into a full WikiProject of its own so the task force parameters for ((WikiProject Central America)) are no longer supported. Do you know if this requires an update to AWB? Kaldari (talk) 19:46, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for the heads up. -- Magioladitis (talk) 20:16, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
So I literally couldn't help but notice a bunch of very automated-looking edits that also overlap with what some might consider a violation of WP:COSMETICBOT (for example, [131] (the one I stumbled across while patrolling WP:AN3), as well as several others: [132] [133] [134] [135], ...). The overall pattern also suggests to me a lack of manual supervision, too. It's admittedly very frustrating to have to even post this, as I thought prior issues related to Yobot actually probably were at least partly related to ambiguity in COSMETICBOT interpretations. To an outside observer, this seems to suggest that despite you now knowing people object to edits like these—despite an open arbitration case surrounding it—you still went ahead and kept on doing them anyway under your main account. Does there happen to be a really good reason for doing so that I'm not aware of, and/or is a task already approved/in-trial somewhere that wasn't cited in your edit summaries? If so, then my apologies for even bringing this up in the first place; it would significantly help to reduce anxiety and stress if everyone knows what's going on. --slakr\ talk / 02:42, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
Slakr The matter was recently discussed at User_talk:Magioladitis/Archive_32#Invisible_character_edits. Moreover, I think this is one of most clear edit summaries (!!!) since I do what I say: I remove invisible characters. :) You can't see them but there were there. -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:52, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
Headbomb I don't understand why you try to put a priority of the things fixed and consequently to the things I want to fix. -- Magioladitis (talk) 17:05, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
Headbomb Two sections ave I have people arguing these edits are useful. My time in editing has increasing dramatically during the last month. What my bot used to do now I am forced to do manually which takes a lot of hours of my life If you notice, bug reports and bug fixing in AWB is not happening lately an CHECKWIKI stopped updating. -- Magioladitis (talk) 18:36, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
I am still a Wikipedia:WikiGnome. -- Magioladitis (talk) 00:18, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
SarahSV Screenshot and policy provided. -- Magioladitis (talk) 18:03, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
(Old-ish) bug report - does Yobot still incorrectly add a ref section to dab pages e.g. [137] ? Regards Widefox; talk 00:24, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
Widefox Wow. Thanks for the report. It has already been fixed :) -- Magioladitis (talk) 00:29, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
Widefox That's a good hypothesis too. I wonder if we can create a Moore's law analog and predict when the hatnotes will double. Magioladitis-Widefox Confused Law of Hats. hm... sounds cool... -- Magioladitis (talk)
Widefox I wonder if you could open an essay for that! -- Magioladitis (talk) 17:53, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
@Rich Farmbrough: Where could we post this? -- Magioladitis (talk) 17:53, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
Widefox and I thought the numbering was inspired by Asimov's Three Laws of Robotics. -- Magioladitis (talk) 18:09, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
I'm not sure if you are aware but I am attempting to write a trifling monograph about Wikipedia, entitled Disambiguation (disambiguation). All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 21:07, 8 March 2017 (UTC).
Why did you just Archive my question about how new pages get assigned to Wikipedia editors? You did not answer it. This seems to be a habit with Editors. I have posted questions to my Talk page and nobody has ever answered them either.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Henkle
Doug Henkle 9:20 pm CST, 9 March 2017 - henkle@pobox.com (preferred method of contact) —Preceding undated comment added 15:24, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
Did you not notice the ((in use)) tag? Or doesn't it matter? I had to spend some time trying to recover an edit. I'm about to do one last overall proofreading/copy edit/cite edit that will be difficult to recover if there are intervening edits. Are you planning on coming through again? AnthroMimus (talk) 03:00, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
AnthroMimus Hi. Thanks for contacting. I won't revisit the page for the next days. But take note when it takes you more than 1 hour to add changes in a page and make multiple edits maybe it's better to use your sandbox and then copy to the page. You may lose data anyway if you have an editing window open for that long! -- Magioladitis (talk) 10:28, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
I'm currently working on a minor AWB plugin for my private use. I want a means of a sanity check which, under certain conditions, will prevent me from saving. Unfortunately, the check is on-wiki, not in the program, (it would be fixed by creating a page on Wikipedia) so the check can only be done once I click on the already-enabled Save button. How can I make the plugin tell AWB not to save? עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 12:24, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
Hi Magioladits. I added links to other articles so the orphan page could be removed. Can you do this? I'm new here and this is my first practice project, so thanks for the help! Soli58 (talk) 18:04, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
Hi, I linked to the WAEPA article page from another article to remove the orphan tag your bot added but the page still has a <meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow"/> meta tag on it. Are there additional fixes needed to the article to have this removed as well? Thanks in advance. Marbas05 (talk) 20:47, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
Marbas05 I don't know how this meta tag is generated. I am sorry. -- Magioladitis (talk) 15:08, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
Dear Magioladitis, it is nice, that you are doing so much for WP:CHECKWIKI. But why did you add a duplicate reference section to Maple (software)? Best regards --GünniX (talk) 09:04, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
GünniX The page was showing n the list of pages with no references despite the existing references. There is something deeper that I need to check. -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:07, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
עוד מישהו It's not imaginary. There is some kind of bug. AWB wouldn't add the Reflist otherwise. -- Magioladitis (talk) 11:16, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
It turns the two commented out dead links cause(d) the problem. I do not have much time for further bug fixing anymore. -- Magioladitis (talk) 11:20, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
An arbitration case is about to close with a remedy to forbid you from making edits such as [138]. Why are you making them now? — Carl (CBM · talk) 12:38, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
Sorry for short answers. I used my mobile. --Magioladitis (talk) 14:36, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
The edit apparently changes the rendered HTML output this is not considered as cosmetic. -- Magioladitis (talk) 18:16, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
SarahSV I suggest that you wait for the final decision based o the facts the ArbCom has and not in what you hope the ArbCom decides. --- Magioladitis (talk) 18:19, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
Once again: The edit in question was not done by AWB. I think we all now know that there are more tools in Wikipedia that do this thing. I bet WikiEd does it. I hae not used it for a while. -- Magioladitis (talk) 18:22, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
For me the things are clear: I will respect the decision of ArbCom. I think ArbCom can decide which edits are worth to be done and which are not. All other statements here are opinions. -- Magioladitis (talk) 18:25, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
CBM read again the ArbCom draft because the remedy says nothing about "cosmetic edits". A term that you use but lacks good definition. -- Magioladitis (talk) 18:52, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
All this for 4 pages. -- Magioladitis (talk) 15:06, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
Headbomb, we discuss here less thn 10 edits. What kind of meatbot is that? -- Magioladitis (talk) 20:23, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
Hello, Magioladitis:
Thank you for weighing in with your recent WP:REFPUNCT edit, here on Erika Grey.
However, with all due respect, I notice that you didn't weigh in on the attempt to delete this author, at this link: Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Erika_Grey.
While I was not one of the early editors, my objective review of the entry seems to suggest that it warrants KEEPing. Regardless of your views, could you please weigh in here? Thank you.96.59.156.253 (talk) 00:39, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
This arbitration case has been closed and the final decision is available at the link above. The following remedies have been enacted:
For the Arbitration Committee, Amortias (T)(C) 23:51, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
Please see WP:ANI#Magoladitis deletes thousands of user talk page edits and doesn't get the problem. Fram (talk) 11:29, 24 March 2017 (UTC)