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I'm not seeing where David Rohl is attacking me -- nor, for some reason your warning. (Maybe my eyes aren't working this morning.) Can you supply me diffs? -- llywrch (talk) 17:55, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
hey, im not sure what you did with the original question I sent you, but can you put it in the CE article's talk page and post a response there? Thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.188.96.91 (talk) 18:25, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
Doug, I'm having a dispute - very civilised, no problem there - with another user over whether certain information does or does not belong in a certain article. She says it's relevant, I say it's not. What WP policy guidelines are relevant? PiCo (talk) 01:14, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
Hi Doug, you've been involved in discussion on Talk:New Chronology (Rohl), so as a fellow admin, please can you tell me what the hell is going with fellow admin Dbachmann ("dab")? It's hard to see how his behaviour (comments and editing) is acceptable for an admin, so I'm open to the possibility that it's my fault somehow (I feel like I must have done something to Dbachmann in a previous life...). See Talk:New Chronology (Rohl)#Merge, particularly towards the bottom where he accuses me of "an obviously fraudulent attempt..." among other issues. Thanks. Rd232 talk 16:52, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
Instead of looking for faults in previous lives of his, Rd232 should simply try and remember not to edit war over templates indicating perfectly well-argued and relevant problems with the article. If Rd232 can bring himself to stop pushing an agenda and begin to remember that Wikipedia articles are a reflection of quotable third party publications there can be respectful collaboration towards a compromise within policy. --dab (𒁳) 18:08, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
You might want to take a look at this. Looks like a user took it upon them self to move the article after the move discussion was closed. ← George [talk] 04:52, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
Doug, you reverted an edit to Darko Trifunović by Aleksland (talk · contribs). This is yet another sock of the indefinitely blocked Darko Trifunovic (talk · contribs) - could you please block it? It would also be helpful if you could semi-protect Darko Trifunović to discourage further sockpuppetry. -- ChrisO (talk) 00:33, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
Mr. Weller have you been warning me and not the other who have been editing the status quo. It is them who are changing the status quo not me. If they want to discuss they should take it to the talk page and then we can change it. Do you remember when we tried to change the title of the article, you said the same thing. You said to talk about on the talk page and then if there's a consensus and then we change it. So let's do the same thing here, let's not play the double standards where you preach one thing and then say something else. Go check the history Mr. Weller I'm not the one who changed the status quo. If you threaten me one more time by abusing your powers in such a deliberately non objective manner I will take this up to the noticeboard.George Al-Shami (talk) 00:49, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
Appears I added it twice, my apologizes. - NeutralHomer • Talk • 05:17, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
Talk:Common_Era#Section_about_months.2Fdays
Referring to your concerns about SOPHIAN's Paris R1a ata, I know the Paris data being referred to and it is from the YHRD database (www.yhrd.org), as is explained in the Wiik article, and specifically by using STR data converted into predicted SNP values. I do not think referring to the JOGG reason for coming into existence is good enough, and that different data needs to be looked at on a case-by-case basis. In the case of this particular data set I think the source of it is reasonable for some purposes, but not if the aim is to say that this is a definition of frequencies in Paris, because I do not think YHRD's randomness is always easy to be sure about. For example some sample sets come from specific communities. So I am skeptical about using it for anything very important, although as a person interested in this subject I do appreciate the work that went into the Wiik article, because for France we have very few sources of data.--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 10:26, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
Regarding your edit query at Maple syrup, Canadians usually spell it "flavour" British-style, and Quebec does dominate production. - DavidWBrooks (talk) 14:43, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
This seems like an attached link of vandalism that you may want to check in your userpage: Site Map--then under the "All Pages".24.79.78.169 (talk) 04:27, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
Is it possible that you could unlock the Steorn article so that we can have a go at moving the article forward. I haven't actually edited the article and from reading the talkpage, there is a level of broad agreement about moving the article forward. The issues with a single editor are frankly more usefully dealt with in others ways (if they persist, maybe they will not). --Cameron Scott (talk) 19:43, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
Not really sure the repeated blocks are really appropriate, here. It's only one editor who's being disruptive, and you may be sending out the wrong message by locking the article over today's straightforward WP:ELNO violation (suggesting that it's a subjective, both-as-bad-as-each-other edit war, rather than two editors applying policy and the other inappropriately using edit summaries to ask for clarifications). --McGeddon (talk) 17:23, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
I am having some real problems with at least three editors on the Steorn page. My issues is well document on the page that disputes are on and somewhat documented on the discussion page for Steorn. Presently, I have attempted to add an external link to a webpage that discusses perpetual motion machine, which by definition is what Steorn’s Orbo is. The editors are deleting my changes claiming that WP:EL governs. I review WP:EL and found that this link is appropriate and asked them to clarify. Among the personal attack of trolling and not able to smell the coffee, I was unable to discern any credibility of Cameron’s deletion of my edit. Moreover, the page has an internal link to perpetual motion machines. Their inconsistent editing is more evidence of their failure to objectively edit.Irrito (talk)
Well, I am sorry you feel that way, as recent history demonstrates the need to stand up against the well respected majority--Madoff/Enron/worldcom/Bush adminstration/NY Times and LA Times reporting that did not check facts of WMDs. But this is life. 67.94.16.18 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 22:45, 14 August 2009 (UTC).
Found this account which I am presuming is not an alternate of yours. Just wanted to give a heads up if it isn't an alternate. Cheers,
⋙–Berean–Hunter—► ((⊕)) 12:10, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
I think Kingturtle meant to leave you a note... Wknight94 talk 18:49, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
Just to confirm, is Dou Gweler okay with you? Or should we go with his other choice, Dámenavista? Kingturtle (talk) 21:29, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
I dont know what my user page is. Im new to this. I guess I sound stupid but I hardly know how to work this thing! Your help would be appreciated :) thank you Assyria hightower (talk) 21:03, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
Am I supposed to make a user page or can I just leave it blank? Assyria hightower (talk) 21:43, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
I just do not know where to begin, did we try to delete it before? Want to try again? Slrubenstein | Talk 18:38, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
According to WP:TPG, talk pages are to be ON TOPIC. I have asked for opinions on two articles to discuss possible neutrality problems and logical fallacies in said articles. "Plus I object to the term "evolutionist" it's a way for creationists to brand scientists/people under a false idea that evolution is a religion and that there are followers, evolutionists." IS NOT ON TOPIC. "Using the RfC isn't going to get this page to ignore the universal and unquestioned scientific communities support of evolution." IS NOT ON TOPIC. Both of these quotes were made by Raeky, and it has interfered with the discussion of the issues I brought up, so I used a warning template. I am GENUINELY concerned with these two articles, and contrary to any belief, I am not out to get evolution. Evolution can become twice as popular for all I care. I feel I have been hindered trying to discuss neutrality issues in one article, and a contradiction between evolution as theory and fact and fact. Two Wikipedia articles should never contradict each other in this way, especially when the source is the same article. All I want to do is discuss this. As an admin, I ask that you look into my past warnings. Shicoco (talk) 06:51, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
You're an admin, your opinion on these articles would be nice.
First one, Transitional Fossils, the section misrepresentations made by creationists, seems to be attacking creationists, as creationists aren't the only group to use these misrepresentations. A better title would be "Common misrepresentations" could shift the neutrality. Also, they aren't necessarily false claims, as most of them aren't proven false, instead, the evolutionists provide hypotheses to answer the claims. I think the section could benefit by being displayed as common arguments and possible solutions. This keeps the benefit of showing disproofs to anti-evolution claims, while ridding the section of the debate flavor.
The second article, Evolution as theory and fact, in the fact section (whose main article is fact) seems to disagree with the fact in science section of the main article. It also doesn't parallel the theory section in style.
Thanks Shicoco (talk) 07:05, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
As it's such a pain to write a report, I'm sorry I didn't let you know I'd already written one! Best, Verbal chat 09:53, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
About [1], that's Harvard style note-footing. "Wesley, 2006" is the book written by Wesley in 2006, it appears under the references section. I suppose that you didn't notice that it was there? --Enric Naval (talk) 12:01, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
I noticed that you had reverted the latest change to Einstein–Cartan–Evans theory. There seems to be some kind of off-wiki campaign by Evans and his associates (Francesco Fucilla) described here with reference to this article. The BLP Myron Evans was removed after legal threats to WMF - I started the WP:Articles for deletion/Myron Evans. Similarly I started WP:articles for deletion/Jeremy Dunning-Davies. Francesco Fucilla seems to edit from various London IPs and in the links above has a running commentary on what happens on WP. I didn't notice the WP:Articles for deletion/The Universe of Myron Evans, an article on the film he sponsored. Probably nothing needs to be done at the moment. Mathsci (talk) 13:47, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
Hi Doug. Thanks for your participation in my recent RfA. I will do my very best not to betray the confidence you have shown me. If you ever have any questions or suggestions about my conduct as an administrator or as an editor please don't hesitate to contact me. Once again, thanks. ·Maunus·ƛ· 12:37, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
I have token blocked User:64.255.86.242, and reverted some of his removals. If you were able to keep an eye on him it would be useful. Rich Farmbrough, 15:44, 19 August 2009 (UTC).
just got ur message. i just edited African Empires in hopes of resolving this. i hope the source is acceptable.Scott Free (talk) 16:41, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
Thampthis is a Greek form of this person's name. But Djedefptah is his proper Egyptian name and one would usually use the native name whenever possible. But its your call on the redirect. Regards, --Leoboudv (talk) 20:10, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
Re, your message. His edit summary read like it was someone giving their opinion, or someone who wanted to censor a particular bit of information. I've ran across similar edit summaries in the past, and that was their goal.— Dædαlus Contribs 20:21, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
Hi, Doug. I see you got a response from Lumos3 about the the multi-licensing issue. In the case of Lumos3, it appears to be like we suspected -- he is one of the editors who wanted to make their userpages even more available for public use than Wikipedia (which previously only used CC-BY-SA licensing rather than multilicensing). This was certainly permitted -- and possibly even encouraged way back when. However, it seems that even now Lumos3 (among others) doesn't realize that Wikipedia has switched to multi-licensing. He referred you to Wikipedia:Multi-licensing, but that text is out-of-date. Notice that the first sentence still only mentions the CC-BY-SA. The best text on that page is in the small yellow warning box at the top, which states that WP switched entirely to multi-licensing on June 15th.
And for some reason, Lumos3 also only updated his userpage template to 2.5 when WP uses the most recent version, 3.0. I think the relevant text for all of these editors is the You irrevocably agree to release your contributions under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0 and the GFDL which appears on the bottom of the edit screen. Pushing the "save page" button is essentially an agreement to that multi-licensing contract. Which I believe supersedes all others.
Anyway, sorry about rambling on here. This was meant in case you wanted to inform Lumos3 or if he knew about it. It's also a way to get it straight in my own head -- which I think I have now -- almost. Cheers. — CactusWriter | needles 19:11, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
I did not add Harut-Marut. I wanted to add a link to Armenia. I do not understand, what happened, if this Harut-Marut link had been added. I clicked on Armenia. Please correct, if there is some mistake. Thanks, you are always welcomed, if you find any nonsense mistakes.--Zara-arush (talk) 19:24, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
Hi! My name is Dewan. I understand that the template is too long. Esp. the Middle Kingdom section. Although I strongly believe that size should not be the determining factor in putting the kingdom out of the list (i.e Pallava/ Western Ganga: small but very important culture formed in these kingdom to Rastrakutan or Pala very large). But is there any why to have a thing like a show/hide button that hides much of the middle Kingdom and when people click it they can see the complete list. Also the Middle kingdoms should be separated into two section Earty and LATE middle Kingdoms. Thank you (Dewan 07:18, 21 August 2009 (UTC))
I have just noticed that User:Victorius III is an account which occasionally gets used to defend the edits of User:Small Victory. Very few edit explanations or talk page activity, but the one response I can see makes it sound like the User also sees himself as defending Small Victory's edits.--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 05:49, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
It might not be clear that the Victorius III edits to Ashkenazi Jews look very similar to Small Victory edits of about the same time concerning the STRUCTURE program being used to analyze populations. See for example Talk:Genetic history of Europe edits by Small Victory around the same time.--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 12:59, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
I note another person has gone further with the same suspicion: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Victorius III.--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 15:17, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
I've been cleared of the charge. Obviously, Victorius III is copying snippets of what I write about STRUCTURE and pasting them into other articles. I would also like to point out that the individual who officially launched the investigation (Muntuwandi/Wapondaponda) did so in "bad faith", and Andrew Lancaster often acts as his accomplice. He's been trying to get me blocked or my edits disallowed on trumped up allegations for the past several weeks now because I challenge his POV and expose his agenda. And he's got a lot of nerve too, considering he himself has been blocked several times for various infractions, and the last time he created a new sock every single day to try to circumvent the block! He has no shame. His are the actions of a desperate man who'll stop at nothing. ---- Small Victory (talk) 12:26, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
A newly created account, with another similar name, has once again taken to reverting Muntuwandi edits with typical Small Victory descriptions: Special:Contributions/Victoriusmaximus. It seems strange to me that 2 new users log on to Wikipedia during a period while Small Victory's editing has been under question, both with usernames like his, and as a first action both choose to revert a recent edit, using an aggressive description of a specific Wikipedian as an Afrocentrist POV pusher. Looks like a duck, probably is a WP:DUCK. If it is not Small Victory, then it someone doing his work in a very specific and self conscious way. Concerning Small Victory's accusation that I work as an accomplice of Muntuwandi, as opposed to someone who works on articles effected by Small Victory's uncivil and disruptive editing, perhaps he would like to make a case, and not just an offhand personal attack as usual? If Small Victory would start making his own cases without loosing his cool every time and responding to everything with personal attacks and subject shifting, perhaps people would take him more seriously and he would be less angry too. See this case as an example of Small Victory having difficulty getting his point across in any way that does not make him sound like a troll: Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/African_admixture_in_Europe.--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 08:58, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
Hey, saw you on the Common Era talk page... man that thing is a free-for-all, doesn't look like anyone has been keeping it cleaned up of irrelevant crap...I reverted a trollish comment on it just now...was I too harsh IYO? Auntie E. 00:25, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
Hi D. I am new here and I see you have contributed alot to this section. Nevertheless, I think I can add many stuff to the subject and I will apriachiate it if you edit anything that you think is not apropriate. But first I would like you to discuss it first why you think it is or it's aproriate...e.t.c
Thanks --Xellas (talk) 18:49, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
Responding to several comments over at the NOT talk page, based on the idea of "unencyclopedic" content, including yours, I put up a new section, Wikipedia talk:What Wikipedia is not#The reason why the "unencyclopedic" argument just doesn't fly on that talk page. Much of the "unencyclopedic" argument is a pet peeve of mine. It's a bit of a tangent to the main discussion, but I'd be interested in your thoughts on it. Thanks, Noroton (talk) 19:07, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
I take it you didn't notice the administrators' noticeboard discussion about this. It was mostly about Nja247, who placed the second block, justifying it using the username policy (inappropriately) and the fact that he was daring to argue against his first block.
This user should not have been blocked. You seem to have blocked him for being a clueless newbie, which is not okay. Call this "wheel-warring" if you must, but I am reversing an unjustified block with the support of consensus from AN. rspεεr (talk) 21:40, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
Hi Dougweller. I noticed that you are from Derbyshire so I was wondering if you would be able to get a picture for a forest in your area, Darwin Forest. This Wikiproject England stub was created recently and it would be greatly appreciated if you were able to get a photo for the article to improve its quality. Thank you.--The LegendarySky Attacker 03:11, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
It's a mystery to me. The sentence he wants to add is almost meaningless. He gives a ref, but its to entire articles, and his name doesn't appear on the list of those who've recently edited those articles. PiCo (talk) 07:58, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
Based on the fact that the Arthur_Kade article is an orphan article, it should be deleted. If nothing else links to it, it isn't notable or worthy of an article. He is just an extra. Can anyone get their own article in this wiki if they engage in self-promotion that results in mocking press coverage? Also of note, he has no IMDB profile either. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jmo84ri (talk • contribs) 23:49, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
The whole article cheapens the entire site. It is shameless self-promotion. He uses it as a vehicle to promote himself, and to promote his commercial interests. We're talking about an ego-maniacal extra, not an important figure in society in the least bit. This page only contributes to his over-inflated ego and search-engine-ranking. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jmo84ri (talk • contribs) 00:35, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
Hi Doug, The R1a article must be one of the worst I've ever had anything to do with do I've had a stab at trying to remove some of the most obvious redundancy and POV. More work needs to be done. I know in the past that the perpetrators of the mini POV-forks in this article are happier to revert anyone trying to do a neutral clean up, than to allow their own bit of turf to be deleted along with all the others. So I thought it worth mentioning to an admin who might be interested to also watch what happens. Please let me know if you think my edits are not correct in any way.--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 08:12, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
There are 2 articles on the same subject, Song of the Sea and Exodus 15.1-15.18. There's a suggested merge discussion page but so few people ever go there it'll never get to a decision. Can you or someone just do it? PiCo (talk) 00:24, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
""You can't, types the one handed man with the bloodstained bandage Dougweller (talk) 10:53, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
Probably. The IP address seems a little unusual, I don't immediately remember him being on a 110.x.x.x before. Hersfold (t/a/c) 17:17, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
Please,Dougweller,wuold you go to the last sentence of page Antonio Arnaiz-Villena/section “Fringe linguistic theories”.Please link to ref 27. Page,38,2nd Ref:you see that it exclusively refers to an Alonso-Gacia work in 1996,years before that met and worked with Antonio Arnaiz-Villena.But this is maliciuously attributed to Arnaiz-Villena. Please,could you delete this reference and its previous phrasing.? Thank you --Virginal6 (talk) 18:04, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
Doug, good luck with everything tomorrow. Hope you heal well. Look forward to seeing you back soon. — CactusWriter | needles 20:47, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
best wishes from me too. excessive editing will be the perfect way to train your hand muscles after surgery, so I hope to see you back soon :) --dab (𒁳) 11:25, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
Hello Doug, sorry to hear you're facing some medical "inconveniences", sincere wishes of good luck on that. When you're feeling better, perhaps you could provide some valued input on this talk page. [2] cheers Deconstructhis (talk) 06:00, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
When I first got involved in Wikipedia about a year and a half ago, I ran across something somewhere advising us to use date linking as much as possible, and explaining how to. I was unaware of the Style Guide's admonition against use of date linking until you showed it to me, so it looks like I have been misguided. Live and learn. The date linking never disfigured article in my view, and I figured if anyone looked up a date, power to them. But it's not rhe kind of thing that concerns me one way or the other on Wikipedia -- my focus is more on getting information into Wikipedia and linking it up to related articles as much as possible -- so if it bothers anyone enough for them to write me about it, then I won't do it. Frankly, judging by the Style Guide, I am hard put to see when one ever would use the date linking function, as the guide seems to preclude most uses I can think of. I learn something every day.
The "mother" link was a copying error on my part that I did not catch. Thanks for pointing it out. It probably pops up in a few other articles on ships of this class. Generally, I figure that links are good, because I cannot prejudge what someone will want to look up or how good his or her English is wherever he or she is around the great, wide world, but although a "mother" link in a ship article does not hurt anything, it is goofy. I'll click through the articles and do a clean-up over the weekend.
The date linking really seems to have annoyed at least a couple of people. I hope they do appreciate that I am voluntarily producing otherwise well-linked and researched articles on ships others have not, which is a bigger thing to me. Mdnavman (talk) 13:34, 28 August 2009 (UTC)mdnavman
Need some fingers? How about a trade? A few of mine for some more gray matter. Considering the gibberish pouring from my computer, I might do just as well typing with my face. Glad to see you back at the keyboard. Hope your fingers are rehabbing nicely. — CactusWriter | needles 08:21, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
Why do you prefer to call him a German-American rather then a German American? I've asked the same question on the talk page when an anon reverted German American to German-American. If his origin is irrelevant, why not delete German-American ?--Work permit (talk) 06:24, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
You removed my addition on the franz boas page. You termed it "vandalism". Why is that? There are many - wiki user editings that i have seen that lack substance and evidence, yet those are not pulled.
Why the disparity? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.176.211.211 (talk) 21:43, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
I am sure I will wait forever for a response from doug. So called liberals love to say they are about freedom and democracy, but disagree with them - if they have the power to censor or silence you - they will. You were johnny on the spot when i criticised boas doug, where are you now? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.176.211.211 (talk) 22:26, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
Hi Doug, I am quite a new user and I learn progressively. I have been writing a few words here and there for a year, before I decided to become more commited and serious by registering as a user.
So why I did not added sources ? First of all, I added a lot of material and details to articles relating to the stories of characters from the indian book Mahābhārata, so the soure is : the Mahābhārata. It was already cited, it is the only source.
I just attended a 10 hours lecture where we got the full text (I mean the excerpts regarding the subject), its translation, and various comments and point on views on the text from different traditions, explanation of the names used in sanskrit, etc... about their comments : they have belonged to several traditions of india for a thousand years, not to a specific author or book.
In other words, I might add more to these same articles, but there is only one source : The Mahabharata, and its translation was already cited. The Mahabharata vol. 2, tr. J.A.B. van Buitenen (Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 1975). I used the same book so how can I add another source ? Also all the articles on the subject are very short compared to the length of the story, and so they really need to be expanded.
On another article -Gunther Rall- , I corrected accordingly and added my source, ^ Le Fana De L'aviation Hors-Série N° 25 : Gunther Rall, De Göring À L'otan.
I don't remember linking dates, and had no reason to. If I did, it was by mistake.
You did not comment on this, but I feel that the comments I added on the article (Savitri and Satyavan) have been deleted. Well, the text is a mythology, it has several meanings - which sometimes can be contradictory depending on the traditions. Giving the text alone makes no sense at all. The comments need to be given with the text. without comments, how can an english reader understand the story ? This is where the articles on this subject as they are have a major lack. Each character is a representation, a symbol of one or several aspects of the human psyche.
I just attended a lecture on 5 Indian heroins of the myhology. We got the full text (I mean the excerpts regarding the subject), english translation, and various comments and point on views on the text from different traditions, explanation of the names used in sanskrit, etc...
Giving my instructor's name (He teaches at University of Rochester. He received his Ph.D. from Harvard University) makes no sense, he himself says : this is the common indian laymen's understanding of this charachter, this is the tantric explanation of this charachter, this is the myth as it is told in northern india, and how it is told in southern India, this is the buddhist's use of this expression, and so on. There is not one author of the text, nor there is of their comments. They have belonged to several traditions of india for a thousand years, not to a specific author or book.
That is why I ask that the comments be returned, and there is actually much more to them. The meaning of any myth is necessarily longer and as important as the myth itself.
Also I never thought that when I spent one or several hours writing an article, they could totally disappear just the next morning. I mean not be edited, improved or else, but deleted valuable information, a whole new chapter. If then I might as well not write anything. How can I monitor the articles I edited ? I don't have many hours a day to spend tracking and fighting over anything, already writing in wikipedia is a luxury of my time. this really discouraged me.
I know thi makes many topics. thanks for answering. Wikiclementdee Wikiclementdee (talk) 05:41, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikiclementdee (talk • contribs)
Just added some complaint above about the deleted comments note. Another question : "To often articles like these, including Biblical ones, are mainly retelling of the original story with very little about the story,". Is it bad if you give the story "as it is", or more really, a short version. and what else to give if the comments are deleted ?
I also get to read the other articles I edited, only to see much of it has been reversed. Nala has : See also : Nala Nepal - well, it starts with disambiguation Nala Nepal. Most other articles have see also chapters to place link to other articles related. So I removed Nala Nepal that was redundant with Disambiguation, and place a link to Damayanti. But this has been reversed. I don't get it. Wikiclementdee
Sigh.. a period of explaining that someone being "really nice" or having "original ideas" is not what a wikipedia article is constructed upon. --Cameron Scott (talk) 19:14, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
Hi Doug. Thanks so much for your kind help to my students! I have 28 enrolled this semester in "Ancient Central America" (ANTH 500) who will be working on 1000-word entries (or improvements to approved existing entries) with a focus on the archaeology of the Isthmo-Colombian region. They will be writing the drafts on their user pages before the entries go into mainspace. I (and they) realize that all assistance is voluntary, but whatever help you or others can provide will be greatly appreciated! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hoopes (talk • contribs) 21:50, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
Great feedback I completely agree that it is always best to maintain proper edicate when giving criticism to fellow editors. I was wondering if there was a specific instance in which you are referring to when I gave a user inappropriate criticism. By the way thank you for noticing that I did not site a source for my editing on Haplogroup N. I thought that it was common knowledge since most of the information that I listed was already in the article. Good call though, if people just start writing things without sources there would be a lot of incorrect information on Wikipedia. Do you have any suggestions on what kind of feedback to give an editor if they continue to make incorrect assertions even after you have explained to this editor in detail why these assertions are incorrect? In the case that someone continues to make incorrect statements in there editing, would it not be appropriate to tell this editor that he or she is making false statements? If you did let that editor know that you thought they were making false statements would that be inappropriate and why? If you think someone is making false claims in their editing aren't you entitled to speak your mind and let the editor know that you think they are making false statements?
I would appreciate your feedback on this issue. That said, I live in the USA where it is perfectly acceptable to let someone know that you think that they are making untrue statements.--Jamesdean3295 (talk) 06:53, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
Please have a look at the latest round of Jamesdean's contribs. This guy apparently has an obsession now about expanding out these infoboxes and summaries to emphasize Eastern Europe (he has gone to every article which mentions R1a even as a sub clade) and will not listen to anyone? Where does one draw the line?--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 09:33, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
Hi. I noticed you recently blocked 86.134.231.92 (talk · contribs), an IP of blocked user Dominus Noster (talk · contribs) (himself a sockpuppet of YourLord (talk · contribs)). While browsing the IP's contribs I noticed this, in which 86.134.231.92 responds to messages left at User talk:86.139.35.101. Clearly 86.139.35.101 (talk · contribs) is another of YourLord's IPs, and probably should be blocked as well. What are we to do with this fellow? He's gone through 4 accounts and 6 IPs (confirmed) and another 12 IPs (suspected), clearly giving no sign of altering behavior or intention to resolve his block in the proper manner, nor do I expect he ever will given our past interactions. Most of his IPs are in the same ranges (86.13x.xxx.xx and 81.145.24x.xx)...would range blocks be appropriate at this point? --IllaZilla (talk) 17:30, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
FYI: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/YourLord. As you've recently blocked one of his IPs, your input is welcome. --IllaZilla (talk) 19:00, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
Hello- Would it be possible for you to take a look at the file descriptions for the recent photos uploaded by User:Camille Marino? Example here. She obviously has a COI with the Dave Warwak article as she built most of the content and now seems determined to smear him. The user has been warned three times today regarding her BLP violating edits. I think your keen admin eyes could come in handy in determining whether the photos are kosher....Thanks and cheers, ponyo (talk) 14:03, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
Uh, I didn't intend it as a comment on you, let alone a personal attack: it was about your edit, & explaining why I changed the text. When you removed the quotation from Heinrich Otten, you also muddied the point of comparing two ancient Egyptian chronologies by respected Egyptologists: it was to show that, despite 100 years of research & debate, the outlines of ancient Egyptian chronology hasn't changed that much. Your changes, as reasonable & defensible as they are (yes, the mention to Otten was a holdover from an older, frankly useless & tendentious, version), dulled that point -- hence my choice of "botched". Maybe I should have used a different word to explain myself ("mangled"? "muddied"?), but I meant no malice or insult to you, & I apologize that my choice of words offended you. -- llywrch (talk) 18:12, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
I wrote that section in a very thoughtful way. There are many people that confuse a lot of issues when it comes to that story. I simply am trying to express why it is that they totally misunderstood it. If you remove it, all these people will continue thinking that the story is about homosexuality - instead of something else. Like extreme violence for example.
You don't change other things that are clearly wrong from biblical point of view. The bible says that it isn't for anything that Lot did that he was saved, but because God remembered Abraham. I read in that page that Lot was saved because he was righteous. That is clearly wrong. You know that simply by reading the bible.
Yet, you do nothing about these factual mis-statements, but you delete my corrections and explanations.
This wikipedia thing is nothing but a bunch of poop. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pachaga (talk • contribs) 14:58, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
As I mentioned on my talk page I have now opened an RFC for Timewave zero , on whether this article should be replaced with a Redirect. Please comment on the above link. Lumos3 (talk) 15:35, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
I left some comments on the talk page of i.p user 69.254.76.77 [3]. Point 6 is the one sticks out. It doesn't seem right that one editor should recommend acts of violence against another, or am I overeacting? Taam (talk) 07:44, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
Thank you Dougweller for the welcome and also for the hints to make better and more balanced contributions. Although at this point in time it looks to me more than a battlefield than a website, with bits and pieces scattered all over the place. And somewhere in between the red cross, like yourself, is doing its best to keep the peace. At least it brings the uncontaminated perceived truth of every participating individual to the surface, unfortunately hiding behind a username. A strange real life environment. Thank you again for the welcome and keep up the good work. (NRtruth (talk) 20:27, 3 September 2009 (UTC))
My dear Dougweller, you certainly drive a hard bargain. Wiki was asking for reliable quotations on the subject, now I have given them to you and it is still rejected. Isn’t this what the public wants, namely to know what the man has written with proper citations? If I wanted to be informed about the content of books of a certain writer, I would be glad if someone could give me certain sample extracts from it. Nevertheless, I have to concede that you know the rules better than me, but at least you could have left my reference regarding Kurt Eggensteins’ publication about the predictions made by Lorber? What would be wrong with that? (NRtruth (talk) 16:11, 6 September 2009 (UTC))
Is now O.K. to revert this? Xook1kai Choa6aur (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 17:48, 5 September 2009 (UTC).
I completely agreed with blocking this editor at the time, but I've been communicating with him on his talk page and have suggested that he could be unblocked if he promised to run all possible redirects that he wanted to create past me first. As blocking admin, would you be OK with this? He does have some positive edits apart from all the ludicrous redirects. Black Kite 18:58, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
Just wanted to pop by and say that I hope the hand recovery goes well. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 19:23, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
Dear colleague, I just want to wish you a happy, hopefully, extended holiday weekend and nice end to summer! Your friend, --A NobodyMy talk 05:43, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for changing the setting on my talk page. Hopefully it stops the vandelism. DivaNtrainin (talk) 01:47, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
Doug, I've made a table for kings of Israel and Judah at Chronology of the Bible (Lisa doesn't like it much). It's in the section called Temple to Exile. My problem is that the first line is for Solomon, who was king of both - that line should be just two cells, one to say he's King Number 1, the second for his name and a bit of info. But I can't make it work - can't make that line different from the rest. Can you help? (I also need to add lots of refs - you might like to put cite needed tags wherever you think they belong; Lisa's merely fuming, not actually helping, but I'm trying to get her into a more cooperative frame of mind). PiCo (talk) 08:51, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
I would guess he's contacted whoever is listed as a contact on the wikimedia uk pages? --Cameron Scott (talk) 17:36, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
Doug, could you just block 70.81.111.239 (talk · contribs) already for messing with the stats on Berber people? Looking at its history, I think it might have been busy altering the numbers elsewhere too. Cheers. --Folantin (talk) 13:08, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
What happened here? Svgs are higher quality, did you revert by accident? Himalayan 15:37, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for [4], it made me actually laugh out loud. I left a request at RPP, hopefully this will get locked down for a while. Beeblebrox (talk) 17:17, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar | ||
Awarded to Dougweller for his ongoing Anti-Vandalism conversions |
Good eye on the Models of migration to the New World article That guy was clearly trying to sneak in those edit. I will be keeping an eye on user 142.227.237.253, I will inform you if anymore Vandalism occurs by this user
again tks for all that you do here at WIKI Buzzzsherman (talk) 20:00, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
Yep, I asked him to run this all past me, so last chance saloon time. Looks like you were right, oh well. Black Kite 17:55, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
You know, I'm personally starting to get a little sick and tired of you being on my case 24 hours a day. Get a life brother. I'm only reverting edits which were disruptive in the first place. Second, what do you define as an attack? When people call us "Pakis" then that's not considered an attack on us? But when I bring up a good point of Indians speaking so highly on India and not even bothering on residing in it, then where is the disruption in that? Learn to moderate on Wikipedia, because your seriously being a hypocrite. And I'm personally going to make sure that your reported as well for your patethic excuse of what you call "moderation". Learn not to abuse your powers. Thank you.
--MirNaveed (talk) 10:44, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
Because what you say is true, I will not object to the nomination of the article and I am happy to let the article go.--Sky Attacker Here comes the bird! 20:32, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
well you deleted my Beirut Nights and Byblos edit. It is funny that you did. First off, beirutnights.com that I own since 1999 for 10 years in addition to the copyright of the name since 2009, was created by myself. Eventhough Beirut Nights is a generic name like New York Nights or Paris Nights, the "series of events or activities" called Beirut Nights emanes from the fact that I as a faithful lover and self appointed ambassador to the city of my love and birth Beirut, decided in the mid 90s to start the awareness of people of this city. In 1999, I bought the official domain beirutnights.com after a friend recommended to me the need to legitimize my action. THe site since its birth have streamed live dance music that is international in addition to the largest slideshow (10,000 pics) of Beirut (and surrounding areas in Lebanon). As a result of that if you do a google search you would see that beirutnights.com's slideshow is mentioned in more than 5000 links. Many sites listed as links on your article including downtownbeirut.com (created by a friend of mine), have been listed as external links eventhough they offer less updates on beirut nights scene (that the forum) and less pictures (than the 10,000 photo slideshow). Not only that, but you actually deleted it from the article "Eurodance" under radios playing eurodance, and is is known by real guide, windows media guide since 1999, beirut nights was the first radio site to stream eurodance and has more than 90% eurodance content while the other radios listed have non updated material and the land radios listed DON't even play 10% eurodance. Therefore , if you are not willing to acknowledge the information or slideshow on Beirut Nights article or even on the Eurodance section, I think you are doing the project of Wikipedia that I find honorable and helpful (eventhough contains tons of fallacies in sections relating to Lebanon) a disservice. I advise you not to rely on some automatic software checkers that saw that I did 4 entries the same night and rather CHECK the site IN DETAILS before you consider as advertisement. In fact, the actual radio costs have for 8 years (out of the 10) been covered by myself, and the past few years had some help from donations of listeners and is not by any way or mean intended to be a money making industry. Finally my fourth entry was regarding Byblos. I thought that may be that one was a little bit iffy just because the site of Byblos Radio didn't offer anything but music. It still represents a mediterranean music site who's owner is from there and I thought that it would be helpful to add any radios streaming from Byblos or representing the music culture of Byblos. But due to the poor content of the site itself ( not well built or done) I think that maybe ONLY on this entry, would it be justifiable to delete. Best Regards BeirutNights.com
Yes it is all messed up..was trying to update but not sure if possible To be honest Pre-Siberian American Aborigines and Pre-Columbian are the same thing ..aswell as Origins of Paleoindians and Models of migration to the New World are same topic pretty much. only solution i see is a vast cut back on info and merge them. really not sure though Buzzzsherman (talk) 06:58, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
Good morning Doug,
I have no intention of using this article as an ad. I simply would like to give a detailed description of what the company does, and the different division it has. I will do my best to maintain a neutral point of view, and I would appreciate any feedback you might have along the way. I will be working on this article over the next few days.
Thanks for your help.
Tim --Timthom2 (talk) 12:57, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
When you say I should declare my relationship, how do I go about doing this? Within the article itself? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Timthom2 (talk • contribs) 16:17, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
I have done so. I would like to add that the previous article on Mad Science that I have since updates was much more of an advertisement for the company. I only wish to give a detailed description of its history and operations. Many other company articles appear to have an advertising elemenet to them and their is no conflict of interest disclamer above. If no one wishes to lend their "objectionable" view to the article, what steps can I take to have the disclamer removed from the Mad Science article. --Timthom2 (talk) 17:46, 11 September 2009 (UTC)--Timthom2 (talk) 17:47, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
Hi Doug, I am concerned about the recent vandalism about this topic. I will try to talk to this guy else you will have to block him. and semi protect that page to sometime. Oniongas (talk)
Hi Dougweller, Timthom2 created a report at the COI noticeboard about the article Mad Science. The report isn't that you have a COI, but that he was declaring his own COI as an employee of the company and wanting help on the article. He also asked if the COI tag was necessary, and since you were the one who had left the tag I thought it might be a good place to mention your concerns about the current state of the article and what might need to be cleaned (assuming it doesn't get deleted). Thanks! -- Atama頭 20:59, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
Indef blocked Albsol88t (talk · contribs)/Howto8008 (talk · contribs) seems to be back as Bigone2 (talk · contribs). He went and made same minor edits first but came back to edit war on the exact same stupid thing again and tried to change talk page comments from a previous account so they didn't include the swearing. It'd be nice if he'd learn to edit the right way, but I think as long as he refuses to he should stay indeffed until he takes steps to change. DreamGuy (talk) 22:02, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
Doug, could have a look at Chronology of the bible? LisaLiel doesn't like the edits I've been doing, and has now started total reversions. Please note that I'm not complaining about her behaviour, she's been quite civil and there's no personal animosity. But our positions are so far apart that we may need someone from outside to intervene. Anyway, please have a look and tell us what you think. PiCo (talk) 03:24, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:R1000R1000#Genetics_articles. --Andrew Lancaster (talk) 07:56, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
After I saw you level 4-warned him, I took a look at his contributions--nothing but disruptive editing, personal attacks and BLP violations. I gave him a one-week block to think about it. Blueboy96 14:42, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
Can I get my account open to be able to edit semi-protect pages? I have the account almost 4 days and more than 10 edits. I also got cookies. Thank you. Ruben31 (talk) 17:09, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
Are you here? Can I please have my account open for semi-protect pages now? Ruben31 (talk) 17:42, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
It is urgent pages I need to edit today please? Ruben31 (talk) 17:54, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
Re chronology of the bible I think an RfC is best. How do we go about that? PiCo (talk) 22:25, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
Hi Dougweller, I've left a reply to your message on my talk page -- Marek.69 talk 23:26, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
Sorry, but we really can't have talk pages for non-existent articles. Why not ask Sandstein directly? Dougweller (talk) 06:31, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
O.K., thanks for suggesting that. I know it's the policy but it's not a good policy. The article was there, as others were that are deleted now, and should be able to have a talk page. It's a separate point that the article could be developed again, and also, because of this, should have a talk page. The confiscation of the facility to discuss at all about the subject of a deleted article which was published in this human publishing facility, The Web network (whatever reason it was deleted for, for the 'agreed good' or not that) is restrictive. Given that someone decided on this policy, it's quite fascist and against the spirit of anything Wikipedia could be about truly. Unless it's just that not a lot of thought went into it and an article removed means nothing at all worth much thought, but I think most people would have at least some thoughts about keeping a talk page alive for it. It should be quite a basic facility if you think about it.
Consider this article on this subject which was deleted. It's a bit a controversial subject considering there have been claims that the worlds' news media agencies shy away from talking much about it at all. And then the page is deleted, the reason given seemingly humour in poor taste and inappropriate or who knows what. So this subject, that of the deleted article, is a very good example of the restricitivism of confiscating the opportunity to discuss and publish for reading about a subject which had been published about. It is a good example of the kind of anti-information world, and more importantly anti-commuincation world (as I am talking about a discussion page rather than the subject information page itself) which Wikipedia was never intended to embrace truly.
If you agree, I appreciate anyone with 'clout' in Wikipedia, like you, sending a very quick message up to the 'powers that be' or raising it some time if you have a chance. Kind wishes.
Lecochonbleu -15/9/2009 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lecochonbleu (talk • contribs) 00:24, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
I put a friendly warning on his talk page. I was going to revert him to WP:COIN if I had to do a third revert. Simonm223 (talk) 16:21, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
Dear Sirs:
I went in and read how I (Paul LaViolette) have been presented in Wikipedia and do not agree at all with much of what was written. To protect my reputation, I have tried to make the necessary corrections, but your system has reverted always to the previous version leaving the content unchanged. I have no idea why this is happening. In its present form I object to its content. I request that editors wishing to correct the present errors refer to a detailed bio posted at: Starburstfound.org/LaViolette/Bio/Bio1.html. I give my guarantee it is entirely accurate. Also in the future anyone wishing to make changes, please first email me the text they wish to post about me so that I may check it for accuracy. My email address is gravitics1@aol.com. I request that The Washington City Paper (WCP) (http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/) not be used as a Wikipedia source of information about me. That source is not something that should be used in an academic setting such as Wikipedia. It is a tabloid, whose main purpose is to serve as a guide to entertainment and activities in the Washington D.C. area. WCP's writing accuracy is rather spotty, not always up to accepted standards; they liked to focus on inflammatory topics and would often do muck raking on politically hot topics. The 2000 article about me was written as an entertainment piece and the author did not get his facts straight. Sean Daly, the young reporter who interviewed me and wrote the article had originally contacted me with an interest to do a story about my pulsar/SETI findings. I soon discovered that he had no science background, little interest in science or SETI, and was mainly interested in writing a piece that would be entertaining to the nightclub seeking masses. Much of the information written about me was either fabricated or inaccurate. I was not given the opportunity to check the article over prior to its publication.
Consequently most of what is written about me in the Wikipedia posting which uses WCP as a source is incorrect. For example, the posting did not even get the name of my father correct. Also keep in mind that in some cases your citations and Talk:Paul LaViolette discussion refer to the source as Washington City Press (http://washingtoncity.org/index.php?sub=Press). This is an entirely different paper published in Washington City, Utah, not Washington, D.C. and is closer to what one would regard as a more standard type local paper. Washington City Press has done no story about me.
Furthermore there are difficulties also with the citation from Science magazine. Although I did take a job at the USPTO, I did not "answer Thomas Valone's call for free energy enthusiasts to take up positions in the United States Patent and Trademark Office" regardless of what David Voss says in his letter to the editor. This is a flat lie and I object to it. I had long ago posted a page informing people about this Science magazine error.
Also the Wikipedia posting confuses my name with that of the oceanographer Paul LaViolette. I never worked at NOARL. That referenced Science article is about someone else.
Under the "Theories" section, the last part of the first sentence is incorrect which says: "...directly to our planet from distant sources in our Galaxy aligned with the Galactic Center." This cites my 1987 paper (ref. 14), but it grossly misquotes it.
Also contrary to the posting, I have appeared on three Coast to Coast programs, not two, and it is misleading to say that on one I spoke about "Galactic Waves & Communications." I have been on many other radio talk shows as well as on TV, but I am wondering if this is important information to be putting into a bio. I don't regard this as a major accomplishment, especially to have it immediately followed by a reference to my rebreather patent which was a notable accomplishment. (PLaV (talk) 16:25, 15 September 2009 (UTC))
I don't think our friend Mr ALGERIA BERBER (talk · contribs) is going to get Wikipedia policy. Time for a more permanent vacation? --Folantin (talk) 21:22, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
I think the article now needs semi-protection. --Folantin (talk) 16:40, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
An appeal to the "Fringe" forum by an editor on the above page brought a response from two editors, Verbal (an administrator) and Simonm223, both of whom have some history of piling into edit-wars on fringe subjects. I'd appreciate advice upon their actions, which seem to me entirely destructive and non-consensual - that is, they seem to tend to foment edit war and perhaps to misuse administrative facilities in this regard (ie rollback reversion on POV grounds). Redheylin (talk) 17:08, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
Dear Doug,
If I can't control my own Wikipedia addiction, then I'm going to have to get Wikipedia to control it for me. I'm going to get myself a permanent ban. I'll keep reverting that one article, Chronology of the Bible, till the admins have no option but to kick me out. Please pray for my eternal soul. PiCo (talk) 09:59, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
If you're really addicted, what's the point of getting your account banned? You'll just edit anonymously, or create a number of new accounts. If you really need to be banned from editing Wikipedia on your end, you will need to get a network administrator to either point wikipedia.org to 127.0.0.1, or if you still need to read the wiki, install a net-nanny software that blocks all of *wikipedia.org*action=edit* for you and then password-protect it so you cannot change it back. --dab (𒁳) 13:05, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
After a lot of experimenting and some help from User:MSGJ, I added the taskforces to the banner as you requested here. I'm not an expert, but since nobody seemed to be doing it I thought I'd try :) The Polish history task force and the Sub-Roman Britain task force are added, and the categories shown on the template page will have to be created. I have updated the documentation too.
BTW, I noticed the sub roman task force is not in a subpage of Wikipedia:WikiProject European history. I think the template you'll have to use for the bot will be ((ArticleAlertbotSubscription|banner=Eurohist|wgcat=Sub-Roman Britain task force articles))
Hope this helps. ≈ Chamal talk ¤ 11:00, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
Hello. I noticed that you have edited Timeline of historic inventions. I have discovered that there are a large number of edits, all by the same editor, to this and other pages, in which the editor misrepresents his sources, or commits original research, as it is called here on Wikipedia. In many cases the misrepresentation takes the form that the source claims that X did Y at time Z, and in the edit, this is changed to Y happened first when X did it at time Z. This often results in factually incorrect claims appearing in the encyclopedia.
I have provided a list of examples of this problem at User:Spacepotato/Examples of original research in Wikipedia. I give 7 examples affecting 5 articles, but in reality the problem is much wider-spread. I hope that you will be able to find the time to examine this issue. Spacepotato (talk) 23:00, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
Good morning Doug, I cleaned up the talk page, removed spam, corrected grammar and added several replies. Just a general cleanup, which is what I do as part of WikiProject Iraq. Izzedine (talk) 07:53, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
I removed it because it is not a forum but a page for discussing improvements to the article. Izzedine (talk) 08:07, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
Hi Doug, I started a list of IPs here so you can see this guy's "contributions": User:Shii/Mardyks Feel free to monitor related pages with me and add to the page. Shii (tock) 01:04, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
I replied (I think). Best of luck! Verbal chat 20:53, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for handling that. I was just re-reading the blocking policy to try and figure out if this was justified, and had pretty much come to the conclusion that it was. I'm glad that another admin came to the same conclusion independently. -- RoySmith (talk) 21:30, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
I don't know why you said this, but SOPHIAN isn't banned.— Dædαlus Contribs 22:53, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
He has broken 3RR again, today [7] [8] [9] [10] (see changes in the "2009 Quds Day"section). Alefbe (talk) 18:44, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
Another user has asked User:Rjanag to stop User:Paradoxic who has violated 3RR (See User_talk:Rjanag#Now_what_we_can_do). Instead of blocking Paradoxic, Rjanag has locked the page (on Paradoxic's version). This is getting really ridiculous. Admins should enforce Wikipedia policies, instead of making rules and talking about their own standards [11]. Alefbe (talk) 18:56, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
Update: see Talk:International_al-Quds_Day#Protected. Alefbe (talk) 19:19, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
The Paradoxic violated 3rr two times in less than 4 days. Since last time, User:Rjanag did not blocked him for the violation of 3rr, User:Paradoxic got him more confidence to violate the 3rr rule. FYI, Paradoxic deleted information including the sentence " In recent years, only a marginal proportion of young Iranians have attended." 4 times. [12] , [13] , [14] , [15]--WIMYV? (talk) 21:19, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
Hi Dougweller!
I do not understand why you undid the IP's edit..All it did was to remove the peacocky "highly influential" from one sentence. Looked like a perfectly reasonable edit to me. Regards, decltype (talk) 06:59, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for alerting me to the Vinland page, which I'll confess I hadn't bothered to look at in recent years- and now I have looked at it, I wish I hadn't! I'll address some of its numerous shortcomings over the next few days. David Trochos (talk) 19:27, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
I am Doug_Weller on freenode and I request a cloak. Thanks. Dougweller (talk) 19:45, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
Hello. Why has this article article been restored with minimal changes (addition of CERN spokesperson) following the AfD discussion? Headbomb (talk · contribs) added a copyvio picture of Dunning-Davies. He has made a mockery of the AfD discussion in which he participated in June. He must have copied the whole page to his userspace somehow with its complete history. Admin NuclearWarfare (talk · contribs) did userfy the article when it was recreated on September 19th. How come the whole edit history of the deleted article is still there? This is very odd and seems to be completely agaist wikipedia policies. No further notability has been established. I don't understand the edit warring over page moves with NuclearWarfare after NW userfied it. I read your comments to Headbomb on his talk page but again do not understand his response - he says he "checked around" before reinstating the article with its whole history. Where are the diffs and why should such small changes justify ignoring an AfD? How did he store the article with its edit history? Thanks, Mathsci (talk) 11:21, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
Doug, you might want to check your last couple of TW warnings. I was going to warn an IP about vandalism at Çatalhöyük. You were (as ever) well ahead of me at reverting - but no warning evident at the IP despite TW. Haploidavey (talk) 17:45, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
I had copied from the edit portion of the Medjay article specifically so that I could get the sources. I even went back on the history of the article and it shows the refernce links at the end of every sentence. I do not understand what your complaint is about since the Medjay article is very revelant to Nubia-Egypt relations section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wufei05 (talk • contribs) 15:01, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
DUDE WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT LOL!!!? I already notated the article and inserted the links to the material on both of those pages that I edited. If you are trying to convey something to me be super specific and descriptive to me as I have already complied with you request of copying from the edit pages of the orginal article. Oh and not to mention the egypt article on the Ancient History page doesnt have a single refernce to verify its subarticle. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wufei05 (talk • contribs) 15:56, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
So what are you telling me that I should put 'copied from the Nubia article' on the page to explain where it came from? Wikipedia is essentially a electronic encylopedia so what difference does it make if I take info from page 567 and add it to info on page 320 during the process of creating the encylopedia. And what does written history have to do with why it should be included in the Ancient history article since there a refernce link to info about the society itself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wufei05 (talk • contribs) 16:08, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
Oh and about the Nubian Medjay. It means that the Medjay doesnt refer to that specific area anymore but to the Original Medjay who in turn became warriors of Egypt so much so that they were the elite warriors of Egypt which is why Medjay doesnt refer to the specific area anymore. See Medjay article and its subsequent links for further information. (Wufei05 (talk) 16:22, 29 September 2009 (UTC))
I know I didnt write it Im not an acredited history professor thats why there are links there for where the info comes from I havent nor have I ever claimed that Im the author of the material how could I!!? If however you are insist about this I will put a 'copied from BLANK article'. Also what are you talking about with regard to the Ancient History article that there is no more vacancy for anymore relevant articles? (Wufei05 (talk) 16:45, 29 September 2009 (UTC))
Hello Doug. I would appreciate if you could had some comments to the neutrality-in-question debate over the the New World Order (conspiracy theory) article on its talk page. Thanking you in advance. --Loremaster (talk) 16:18, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
Hi, You probably rememner my last edits on David's talk page. I was then wondering why David is also spelled in Arabic. I still do, I can't find any relevance of the Arabic name to the article, much before David become relevant to the Arabs via Islam he was known to most of rest of the world.
On another issue: the name is translated to "beloved" in English. However, I'm a native speaker of Hebrew and never I have heard that the name have this meaning in Hebrew and I think that it need verification.
Cheers,--Gilisa (talk) 16:54, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
Was this a case of vandalism in Ramses I's article: [18] or tag maintenance by IP 75.14.215, etc? (I reverted the edits) Given the large scale deletion of sourced material, I thought it was the former case.
PS: I have rollback rights here but it seems one can only roll back the very last edit to the article...but someone had already made an edit after this IP made his. So, I had to use undo instead. I've been editing mostly on Commons lately from here and the problem there is the large number of copy vios and people claiming a photo is their work when it is almost certainly someone else's. On Wikipedia, its almost always vandalism sadly. Regards, --Leoboudv (talk) 22:18, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
As a note, the links in the references section of Wikipedia, this very site, provided me with the tools necessary to neutrally assess Menzies' claims. I did believe Menzies (who argues his case persuasively if all you have read on the topic is his book and if you don't know that, for instance, the Bimini Road is most likely a natural formation) and changed my opinion based on references found through Wikipedia. Simonm223 (talk) 18:05, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
-Arnaiz-Villena page- I am removing false biographical statements: De Hoz comments dismissing Arnaiz-Villena work (in general )are not true:
He published a review of ONE BOOK [ISBN:84-89-784-84-1],PUBLISHED IN 1998.ALL OTHER WORK WAS PUBLISHED LATER [ISBN:84-81-784-66-3] in late 1999,[ISBN:0-306-46364-4] in 2000,[ISBN:84-7491-582-1] in 2001,[ISBN:84-7491-652-6] in 2001. See also [19] Then ,De Hoz criticism”to “Arnaiz-Villena”work has been removed because does not correspond to reality.
However,they say it is not worth waisting time with Arnaiz-Villena,and put a lot of false commentariesbehind. You saw how they referred Arnaiz-Villena with Alonso previous writings.
Could you please help to clean this attacked biography of a full and respectable University professor? Could you please look up the references of ISBN and see that all except the first one are after 1999,when the critics appearedfor the first book? In addition,taking insults fron academics who attack others with different views,should not be picked up In biographies.Just to say that they disagree (in this case with one work:the rest of the work is included as criticised ,and it has not been)
Biographies are not articles,and if linguists uses such a bad wording,should not be inserted in biographies. --Virginal6 (talk) 19:00, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
User:Doug Weller has been identified as an Awesome Wikipedian, Peace, A record of your Day will always be kept here. |
For a userbox you can add to your userbox page, see User:Rlevse/Today/Happy Me Day! and my own userpage for a sample of how to use it. — Rlevse • Talk • 00:04, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
Are you are a Mossad agent too?[20] Fences&Windows 01:19, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
Concerning your edit summary "see suggestion that this is ...", I don't think there is any reasonable doubt that it is the same person. JamesBWatson (talk) 07:58, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
Replied and agreed on my talk page. --Fiskeharrison (talk) 13:17, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
I've finally finished a major expansion of the inner German border article - it's the 20th anniversary next month of the border being opened and the fall of the Berlin Wall. I'd be very grateful if you could have a look at the article and let me have any comments on how you think it could be improved. -- ChrisO (talk) 14:59, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
Hy there, I'm giving this notice because you seem to be quite active in this article (current name: Mausoleum of Mausolus). I made a formal request for a move towards 'Mausoleum of Halicarnassus'. IMHO we should simply use the common name (the subject of the article is world-famous under the name 'Mausoleum of Halicarnassus'). I will even go further and say that AFAIK the majority of us never even heard of a 'Mausoleum of Mausolus'.
I will not speculate about the reasons for the past move towards Mausoleum of Mausolus (but you can check the history of the article).
I hope that you agree with me in this matter (if not fine by me, but at least give me a sensible reason). If you agree, and if the move goes unopposed, you could even protect the article against a future move. Flamarande (talk) 18:03, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
Hey there, I know that I'm probably exagerating but is this worthy of an offical complaint or something? I mean, the guy fully admits that immediatly after getting a 3:1 result he felt himself justified to make the change he propossed. I reverted the change once arguing that the result was not enough (and quite franky I find it dubious that he (an interrested party) is a proper "judge" in this matter).
After a single revert (and "solely in the interrest of avoiding a possible future revert-war") he asked for support in IRC. After getting the votes he wanted (thereby fixing the result into his own liking) he immediatly archived the discussion as swiftly as he could.
Please study the talk-page and the article carefully first. Flamarande (talk) 17:28, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
I'm not bragging but just compare this kind of behaviour with my own move-request above. I'm not planning to request any help whatsoever in IRC (I'm here to improve the English wiki, and not to make friends on IRC for the purpose of asking their help when I want). I will not lower my own standards to such a level. I'm not, and never will be, a defender of PC bull. Flamarande (talk) 18:59, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
I think someone needs to take a look at the activity of User:Simonm223. He is constantly deleting things without the usual fact tags or discussion. This will be bad for the reputation of wikipedia. Anyone paying attention could point out many of his edits which are clearly uninformed. It would help if someone he wasn't trying to argue with took a look. I'm not overly concerned and am giving up myself but he could drive some people to the opposite extreme. In many cases the best argument for pseudo-scientists is the unscientific behavior of pseudo-skeptics. This doesn't help people understand the subject it just increases the dispute and prevents people from understanding the subject. Anything you do will be appreciated and more respected since he probably considers you a skeptic. Good day Zacherystaylor (talk) 19:30, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
The usual suspects are pushing again for the Cyrus cylinder to be promoted as the world's first human rights charter, this time in Human rights. Given your involvement in the discussions on this issue last time it came up, your views would be welcome at Talk:Human rights#Cyrus Cylinder. -- ChrisO (talk) 00:08, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
Looks like another IP is going ape on this page. Could you keep an eye on it and take the necessary action? Cheers. --Folantin (talk) 08:18, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
Hi there, I actually picked up randomly. :-) The image license is incorrect for this image. Tue uploaded attributed it a CC license, while it's copyrighted. I don't really know how to tag it or change the license, so if you could have a look at it... Cheers. Klow (talk) 14:11, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
Hello,
You have written to me: [edit] Copying from other articles To allow attribution to editors, when you copy and paste you must put a wikilink to the original article in the edit summary (and you should always use edit summaries anyway). Also, please try to follow the citation style already used in an article. Dougweller (talk) 17:14, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ceckauskas_Dominykas"
I am absolutely Ok with your remark. It is just that I am new to wikipedia. But I don't understand why have you erased the section? There wasn't any problem with it it's just that there was no edit summarie... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ceckauskas Dominykas (talk • contribs) 18:55, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
As Halloween is my favorite holiday, I just wanted to wish those Wikipedians who have been nice enough to give me a barnstar or smile at me, supportive enough to agree with me, etc., a Happy Halloween! Sincerely, --A NobodyMy talk 18:25, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
I'm bringing this question to you because I admire the calm and fair way you deal with things. Could you tell me what I'm doing wrong in this discussion? I've spent a week trying to correct a gross grammatical error in the name of a category, and figure I must be misunderstanding something. Cynwolfe (talk) 15:07, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
I don't really understand your point. To me 366 geometry is the first theory that explains the 360-degree circle correctly. It seems both logical and, in a way, "straightforward," whereas the former theories failed to convince anyone, don't you think? I'd be curious to have your view regarding the origin of the 360-degree circle.--Little sawyer (talk) 18:57, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for your note. I blocked him earlier this evening as 206.74.228.141 (talk · contribs), and he returned to make the same edits again. He's been adding some personal opinions about Thomas Fleming to several different articles. I'm not a fan of Fleming, but these were unacceptable edits. I've added a block reason to his user page. If he goes back to making the same edits again when his block expires the pages may need to be protected. Will Beback talk 06:43, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
Just checking, but I take it that User:DougWeller (with 2 edits) is your account? It's not important, but you might like to leave a not on its user page if it is as there are a few links to it (more than I expected considering the account only has two edits). I came across it while looking at the mess that is the front page of Wikipedia:WikiProject Archaeology. Nev1 (talk) 22:20, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
Hello Sir
I Made A Small Edit, On The Page Bilderberg Group, And List Of Bilderberg Participants, But Can Not Understand Exactly Why You Have Reverted It. ????. What I Did Is Added Two Names To The Page. I Truly Am Sorry If This Is A Problem But I Would Appriciate A Reply. Thank You And Sorry.
Kind Regards
Peter —Preceding unsigned comment added by Peter 2009 (talk • contribs) 01:18, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
I have replied to your post at [WP:RSN]. Shazbot85Talk 19:56, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
Dougweller, now that there has been a good deal of cool down period, I'd like to apologize if I offended you or if I did personally attack you. I hope you you'll forgive me for losing my cool and letting my suspicions get the best of me. Shazbot85Talk 00:09, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
The article Persian war elephants has been vadalized by User:Shahshah39. I thought you should know as as admin.--Jastcaan (talk) 13:09, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
Apparently User:Cadenas2008 also quietly split E1b1b into two articles: E1b1b and E1b1b1. The text of one is now just a few bits of text identical to text equivalent text in the other. I have posted a merge proposal and discussion on the talkpages, and I've also tried to fix some problems in both, but my gut instinct is that this should simply be reverted. Can you please advise whether such an action is even permitted? Is this going to happen everytime a journal article announces a new mutation? One passage which was removed from BOTH the new articles explains how closely linked these two articles are. "A large majority of E1b1b lineages are within E1b1b1 (defined by M35). Exceptions discovered so far are a few M215 positive/M35 negative ("E-M215*") cases found in a small number of Amharic Ethiopians and Yemeni." In fact it was 2 Amhara and 1 Yemeni. There were 3401 individuals tested in just one such study that would pick up such cases.--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 12:07, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
I am glad that you think that relativity is a new, minority point of view. Presumably you have discovered a new theory, replacing relativity. For sources, see any Wikipedia article on relativity. The article on Heliocentrism, for instance, notes that heliocentrism is "not true".
Hello Doug. I just wanted to say I concur with AndrewLancaster's sentiments on this. The proposed split is, in my estimation, a bad idea. Accompanied by threats to do the same, it is a worse idea. I would also much appreciate if you might look into this when you have a moment. Many thanks and regards, MarmadukePercy (talk) 20:01, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
Hi Doug, you are listed as a clerk for Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Tothwolf/Evidence. I just added my evidence, and I'd welcome input on improving the presentation. Miami33139 (talk) 00:24, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
Hiya, I added a ref. Just commenting here as I accidently clicked minor edit before saving.Þjóðólfr (talk) 08:28, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
Hi there. I notice you either did not read it or let Hans Adler get away with a worse offense. I have removed your warning from my talk page but responded to him. DinDraithou (talk) 19:44, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
I am responding to you here since DinDraithou made it clear that I am not welcome on their talk page.
Perhaps it's just the selectiveness of my watchlist, but I had the impression that DinDraithou is going around Wikipedia removing all references to Oppenheimer they can find and libelling him on the talk pages, while not presenting anything remotely like a real argument. He is also boasting with this at various places and has announced that he is working on a POV fork of the already contentious article Genetic history of the British Isles (an article where he already engaged in a move war without any discussion), an action that would be likely to initiate another huge battle of the Anglo-Irish war on Wikipedia. (Note that he already unlinked the article from Genetic history of Europe.)
I had the impression that he avoids any kind of technical discussion. He claims that nobody takes Oppenheimer seriously, but is not putting forward any evidence at all. That's very odd given that Oppenheimer has a list of relevant publications (even though DinDraithou dismisses them, perhaps because they deal with a different part of the world) in journals of the highest quality, and I have not seen DinDraithou put forth any evidence for that there is anything other than normal scientific dispute with Oppenheimer. It also needs to be noted that Oppenheimer is working in an interdisciplinary subject that touches archaeology, a subject that is so conservative that it's still more of a protoscience than a science. It would be strange to dismiss Oppenheimer based on DinDraithou's arguments without dismissing all archaeologists as well. These things make me suspect that DinDraithou isn't actually very knowledgeable.
On the other hand it's obvious that he feels very strongly about Oppenheimer. Might this be related to DinDraithou's obvious enthusiasm for Celtic culture and the fact that Oppenheimer contradicts some of the dogmas of Celtic nationalism?
If I was wrong on any of this; e.g. if DinDraithou is not just another nationalist but an obvious genetics expert who has given convincing, WP-compatible reasons elsewhere and just got a bit impatient on the articles on my watchlist; or if my remark to DinDraithou stepped substantially out of the boundaries of robust debate as observed by DinDraithou themselves – then please say so clearly. Also if you think DinDraithou's response (now redacted) was commensurate with my provocation. (I am sure it wasn't, but I abhor hypocrisy so much that I wouldn't want to appear hypocritical to anyone I respect.) But if there wasn't anything wrong with my post other than that I applied the tit-for-tat method in dealing with a bully – then I prefer not to redact it. (Diffs for all factual statements available on request; I omitted them as they seem to be easy to find.) Hans Adler 07:53, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
Ghmyrtle is obviously the sort of user who resorts to reports when he can't get his way, and follows people around trying to discredit them when he knows too little about something. As far as Hans Adler he has yet to remove his own remarks. Do think I am within my rights to report either of them? I suffer from having never tried it and don't know the procedure or guidelines. DinDraithou (talk) 20:12, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
You said that my link from the Abraham page was spam. How can it be spam when I sell nothing on my site at all & the link was to a Family tree of Abraham as well as a Timeline. OH Yah I get it, because I'm a Christian & believe that Abraham really existed & base my timeline on Conservative Scholarly data, you liberal christian haters at WAKOPEDIA must delete it because if it's not liberal or condemning the Bible then it doesn't belong on Liberalpedia This is why no one uses WAKOPEDIA it is just a liberal rag for the loony liberal left. I will replace my links I would appreciate it of you left your Anti-Christian bigotry out of your "I'm a god so what ever I say goes" judgments —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.47.221.124 (talk) 19:59, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
Hello Mr. Dougweller. I' am a student at University of Minnesota and my teacher expect me to give a persuasive speech for the class about Racial Profiling. In addition, my teacher she's more likely to expect me to research or found any police officers are breaking the law or been guilty of Racial Profiling. Well, This is speech due on Monday and I thought you could maybe help to found an evidence some police officers are breaking the law by Racial Profiling people..
Thank you for your time. Adam Vallery —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.84.78.22 (talk) 23:42, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
I didn't kinda lost track and didn't realize I had gone over three reverts. Ian.thomson (talk) 15:43, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
Hi Doug. I think you asked me about the JOGG before. The journal has a form of peer review but is not "academic" in the sense of favoring authors who are professional in a specific academic field. So that is ok by WP norms. As per the name, the authors are coming from the background of genetic genealogy which is not a university discipline, but rather an amateur cross over area. However the (amateur) leaders, the ones who get published, in this field are people who can and do hold their own in conversation with geneticists in discussion about the subjects pertinent to their field. So it is no fringe journal, or popularization, and that is also important for how to judge according to WP norms. Many of them, despite not being human population geneticists as such are scientists. For example Ken Nordtvedt did his maths for moon shots at NASA, and frankly he is probably a step or three ahead of the geneticists on the subject of the maths they use. As you undoubtedly know, I have published there, so I have a "conflict of interest". But this also give me authority in saying that I know from correspondence that the journal is known and respected amongst "normal academics". Indeed I believe the journal itself has been commented upon by relatively big name academic population geneticists here: , doi:10.1016/j.tig.2009.06.003 ((citation))
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(help).--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 19:58, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
I have changed to text so that it doesn't even have the slightest hint of endorsement, even to the point of removing the quoted text. As is the text simply reports a widely known fact.--Anothroskon (talk) 21:53, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on [[:Pole shift hypothesis]]. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period. Additionally, users who perform several reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. When in dispute with another editor you should first try to discuss controversial changes to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. Should that prove unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. Please stop the disruption, otherwise you may be blocked from editing. please give the page a "cooling off period" while mediation gets going Granite07 (talk) 05:35, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
should the users who have been mentioned in the evidence be notified that their previous interactions are being discussed? Theserialcomma (talk) 20:47, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
It's not as hard as i thought at first. sort of getting the hang of entries. I wish i could find images for my Crop art article (was a stub- i have added content). I am so confused by copyright, etc. tried to understand permissions, etc. so far the only images I have located in Wikimedia or anywhere else are completely lame/inappropriate for my illustrative purposes.Any advice? (Bluedillygal (talk) 14:49, 21 November 2009 (UTC))
Dougweller...Of course, good faith! No personal connection to Stan Herd- just discovered him last week. He is the only major artist I've found that calls himself a "Crop artist". Connection to Lillian Colton Crop/Seed artist interesting to me, and this made me see all of topic in a much in larger frame. Just trying to link them to things that in my mind connect for expansion of thinking purposes. Christo one was a stretch-- but Herd does mention Christo's work as early influence (in Herd's book). The guy- Herd has been quite famous. I can't believe I only just found him when I stumbled onto a 1993 Smithsonian mag. article. His work is nuanced and thoughtful and philosophical has been going on since the 1980s. I started "Crop art" from a plain stub that already had a couple of internal links to things: "visual art" and "seeds", etc. This made me think a contributor could point out connections to whatever seemed to make the topic more complete/extended. Honestly- the existing links on page when I found it were not super enlightening-- not that I would mess with whatever innocuous entry another author had seen fit to create...but I did think: Why do you even need that, isn't it obvious? I was more interested in making leaps to think about topic from various angles.So I am trying to link internally FROM and TO my article to help flow. does that make sense?(Bluedillygal (talk) 15:47, 21 November 2009 (UTC))
I emailed Stan Herd and told him I was going to make an entry on Crop art in Wikipedia--and that I wondered if he minded me mentioning him (I don't know the protocol for this) and did he have an image to contribute?. But he hasn't replied. What happened was I picked up the old Smithsonian a couple weeks ago and was very interested in Herd's amazing images and (of course) Wikipedia-ed him- no article. Then looked up "Crop art" also and found just a tiny stub. So I decided to write one, also, I liked the connection to Lillian Colton ('cause she is cool.)Crops/seeds/crops/seeds... and then there's this philosophy part with the preservation of the seeds and the land both. Just trying to give a context for the reason anyone would care about Crop/Seed art... I don't know very much about Herd. I ordered his book used from Amazon and it is a large format photographically gorgeous gem with eloquent explanations of the WHY his art. But other than that- I didn't even know if he was still alive until I found his website and realized it is current.
Causing a lot of talk- oops! Kinda scary. Meant no harm, certainly! (Bluedillygal (talk) 16:11, 21 November 2009 (UTC))
What was the reason for making the move allowed by administrators only on Babylon? Please place a ((talkback)) when you reply underneath here. warrior4321 04:29, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
Started Stan Herd page per yr. sugg.- just wanted to leave a kind of place holder for others to work on too=- it raised all kinda wikiflags about improper this/that... maybe you could look there? Also- all I want right now is to turn my mla style (I know not wikistyle--) page ref into whatever Wiki wants- but I CAN"T FIGURE IT OUT! How to? EASY-- I am dumb as a box of rocks now certain.(Bluedillygal (talk) 16:45, 22 November 2009 (UTC)) (Bluedillygal (talk) 16:47, 22 November 2009 (UTC))PS That ref thing is for everlovin' Crop art page which is better(!) I think than yesterday...(Bluedillygal (talk) 16:47, 22 November 2009 (UTC)) (Bluedillygal (talk) 18:17, 22 November 2009 (UTC)) Thank you Dougweller. I will try to make all Wikippropriate. Learning as I go here. You are very helpful watcher-over person.(Bluedillygal (talk) 18:17, 22 November 2009 (UTC))
Yes, I've identified the fact - to my surprise - that it was you. See the talk section. The whole thing needs to be cut down for sure. It's too much of a long story. Obviously is there is a copyright problem (with a translator of Plutarch) it needs to be rewritten. I thought restoring the flow was necesary as a temporary solution to make the article at least readable. Paul B (talk) 16:15, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
In the last month or so we have seen a number of incidents, in the ANE area, of article vandalism by what appears to be spoofed IP addresses (either TOR or some equivalent). Also, what appears to be testing of script based editing by those IP addresses has also been seen. Is there some plan for dealing with this kind of thing on Wikipedia or is the IP address blocking scheme now obsolete. Seems that a person using IP spoofing and an automated script could cause major havoc on Wikipedia in short order. Just curious.Ploversegg (talk) 17:11, 24 November 2009 (UTC)ploversegg
Mind if I unprotect AIDS denialism (or would you be willing)? It's just one AIDS denialist with a sockpuppet, not too bad compared to some of the coordinated assaults the article has seen in the past. Semiprotection might be good for awhile, but ongoing full protection doesn't seem necessary for one agenda account and his sockpuppet. Up to you - I don't mind waiting the 3 days, but thought I'd ask. Happy Thanksgiving. :) MastCell Talk 05:41, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
I just wanted to wish those Wikipedians who have been nice enough to give me a barnstar or smile at me, supportive enough to agree with me, etc., a Happy Thanksgiving! Sincerely, --A NobodyMy talk 06:39, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
After searching the Internet, I believe that Wu Sien refers to 吴宣 (pinyin: Wú Xuān), a fictional character in a 2009 Chinese TV series: Zheng He's voyages to the Western Ocean (郑和下西洋). You may find the relevant plots about Wu Sien (Wu Xuan) in this TV series at, e.g., this, this, this, and this pages. --Pengyanan (talk) 11:53, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
Zheng He's voyages to the Western Ocean]] isn't about a tv program but definitely should be just a redirect to Zheng He. I found an English mention of the tv series here [25]. Dougweller (talk) 12:37, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
I think I know the answer, but can I simply add a reference to the arbcom, from this:
to this
Maybe everyone wasn't as progressive in 2006 as we are now today? I think I know the answer...let me know and I will do as you ask. I will watch your talk page. Ikip (talk) 16:29, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
Cheers, Jack Merridew 09:03, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
Re. the circumstances of: [27] Thanks. Redheylin (talk) 11:48, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
(edit conflict):::Neither of the 'resolved' comments call it a content dispute, and I see comments not by Redheylin that clearly consider it appropriate for ANI. And I see you have said "rather this thread not yet be resolved," so I presume you think it is appropriate there. Having said this I don't plan to do anything more than asking the closing Admin if he still considers it resolved. Dougweller (talk) 13:27, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
I think you'll find I've been editing since march [30]. Routerone (talk) 15:01, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
I'd also like to add you've been very judgemental in reverting my edits, however those sources were legitimate as.
I make my point. Routerone (talk) 15:06, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
Hi. :) Now that I'm back at my home base, since it was a courtesy notice which is sort of almost a template, I thought I'd let you know that I had replied to your message at User talk:Moonriddengirl#Courtesy notification. :) And to make it completely unnecessary for you to read it, I'll just restate here for the record that I can't imagine it would be controversial to restore the history of Country mile if the content that was there would be useful to you in your new article. And I'll add to that, as I've now had a chance to read over the deletion review request from a decent connection with more time to spare, that if you didn't want to write the article yourself but just thought that the lack of an article is a problem, that a soft redirect to wikt:country mile might serve. I know if the link is redlinked, contributors are more likely to actually create a usable article for the space, but in the meantime, those unfamiliar with the expression looking for information about it on Wikipedia will be able to easily access it. So far as I can tell, the redlink theory won't make much difference, as it currently is not linked from any articles. Oh, and I appreciated the personal note. Generally, a deletion review leads one to wonder what one has done wrong, and it was nice of you to take the time to tell me that you thought my actions were proper under the circumstances. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 17:24, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
M2m2m2 (talk) 22:31, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
Please be advised that self-publication is the normal route for highly controversial topics. Also, be advised that the fastest growing publication channel is the web, which has absolutely no peer-review at all. Sadly, most of the peer-reviewed literature in most reference libraries is trivial, derivative, and dogmatic - 'tenure' has a political price. A glance at the ISI publications impact ratings will quickly show that 99.9 per cent of all 'scholarly' publications are a waste of paper. They are written and published to ensure the authors of their tenure rights with an organization, not because they are of any real value.
FROM WIKIPEDIA: about self-published works: see list below, the original writings of William Blake, Virginia Woolf, Walt Whitman, William Morris, and James Joyce. Spartacus by Howard Fast (during the McCarthy era when he was rejected by previous large scale publishers) The Celestine Prophecy by James Redfield A Choice, Not An Echo by Phyllis Schlafly [8] The Joy of Cooking by Irma Rombauer What Color is Your Parachute? by Richard Nelson Bolles Poems by Oscar Wilde In Search of Excellence by Tom Peters Chicken Soup for the Soul by Jack Canfield and Mark Victor Hansen The Christmas Box by Richard Paul Evans Invisible Life by E. Lynn Harris The Visual Display of Quantitative Information by Edward Tufte Contest by Matthew Reilly Eragon by Christopher Paolini [9] (The book was later published by Knopf) Other well-known self-publishers include: Stephen Crane, E. E. Cummings, Deepak Chopra, Benjamin Franklin, Zane Grey, Rudyard Kipling, D. H. Lawrence, Thomas Paine, Edgar Allan Poe, Ezra Pound, Carl Sandburg, George Bernard Shaw, Upton Sinclair, Gertrude Stein, Henry David Thoreau, Walt Whitman and Mark Twain. [1] M2m2m2 (talk) 22:30, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
Hi, regarding this:
Actually I ran it by Penwhale for a thumbs-up before posting. The context is Moreschi's most recent posts, particularly at the bottom of this thread:
Highlights: "It's bullshit" "telling them all they knew nothing of a subject of which you yourself know jack shit"
Both I and Penwhale politely asked him to reconsider. Penwhale's words: "Just like to point out that (1) Cool Cat is now White Cat, (2) if things aren't looking up, maybe it's time to take a step back and relax rather than actually having to curse in a public thread? - Penwhale | Blast him / Follow his steps 03:12, 30 November 2009 (UTC)"
Moreschi's reply included: "the reasons behind this bullshit needs to be dragged into the light of day"
Now I don't mean to paint a halo over anyone else's head, but Moreschi is in a mentorship role here. If Jack Merridew followed that lead he'd get in hot water quickly.
Problem is, how does one turn the heat down without running the risk of spreading drama? A clerk noticeboard thread could backfire. So I contacted Penwhale offsite and asked him to look at it. He formed his own opinion and agreed. As you can see, Penwhale wasn't any more persuasive than I was. So we put our heads together and I started that subthread with the intention of resolving the problem without putting the spotlight on anyone and with a bit of humor. Penwhale saw the opening post and agreed that it was more likely to have the desired effect than anything else either of us could think of.
Respectfully, Durova371 07:05, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
Howdy Dougweller. I understand your frustrations with un-responsive editors. It's certainily destroys the atmosphere of collaboration & just plain being social. GoodDay (talk) 15:42, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
Hi Doug!
As an anthropologist, I have thoroughly studied the evolutionary history of the Ainu subspecies of humans. Even though they are not evolved from the main branch of European caucasians, it is widely believed that the Ainu subspecies shared a common recent ancestry with perhaps some subpopulation of Eastern European caucasians that were residing in East Asia several thousand year ago, as evident in the caucasian mummies of western China in Xinjiang. As such, the terms caucasian are best applied to describe the evolutionary and morphological similarities the Ainu people have with other European caucasians. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.243.219.178 (talk) 20:27, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
that genealogy spamsite's insane. Not only is it a scam, that tree's pure nonsense. Everything before Pepin II, charlemange's father, is just famous names that let him navigate all over, and it seems to stop in egypt at the point in time where young earth creationists would say it has to stop, without ever tying into A&E. He can't even be a member of his own society. ThuranX (talk) 06:15, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
I agree with your note, except that to me the History of England can't begin before the beginnings of England in the 5th and 6th centuries. I suspect there's little point in fighting this battle, as all this much earlier stuff would just keep coming back. Moonraker2 (talk) 20:33, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
Hi Doug. Can you have a look at a potential problem? I do not know if you'd be aware of it, but R1a has been the subject of a lot of work, mostly positive I think, and then recently two new articles arrived in the literature, which made the editing job a bit confusing, and this seems to have annoyed one editor. A situation has arisen now because User:Pdeitiker first proposed, and then made [34], a massive change to the article, trying to distinguish R1a's rare siblings into a separate article from the most common clade within R1a, which is what most authors mean by "R1a". He also bizarrely moved all recent discussion on R1a to the talkpage of the secondary article [35]. He asked for opinions, and received disagreement [36], [37], which he apparently ignored. After looking at the result of the splits, and realizing that neither of the two articles were in a coherent state, and that the talkpages had become useless, alarm bells were rung [38], [39]. His responses are obviously in bad faith, because when they were responded to he changed the excuses. What it now clearly comes down to is that we should not just be blindly accepting what is published. I then later reversed this split, also trying to answer at least some of his concerns, and also returned material back to the original talk page. This has resulted in repeated demands now that other Wikipedians have until Saturday to appease Pdeitiker, or else he'll revert to his split versions. The main threads of talkpage discussion are here: [40], [41], [42], [43], [44]. This User is a good faith editor, who does normally like wikilawyering or anything like that, and I would like this to calm down and get practical, but I thought it worth mentioning because some of the comments are getting silly.--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 19:54, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
I would like admin opinion on at least a couple of issues:
Regards--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 07:40, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
Doug, I believe that the ONLY discussions on the R1a talkpage right now are about interpretation of Wikipedia norms, both in terms of editing and also acceptable talkpage behavior. I can't seem to break out of that. We really need some outside input on these things at least. It seems everything I propose or do is being described as being in violation of PB666's interpretation of some rule somewhere, with no discussion possible. And indeed I'd say most of his postings currently really are in violation of the spirit and letter of Wikipedia, but maybe I'm crazy. (The long long postings of PB666 are largely devoid of relevance to anything, but I can understand how they make Wikipedians feel unqualified to comment.)--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 13:15, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
Doug, a familiar sounding user just appeared at the R1a talkpage, User:HonestopL. Looks like Cyrus?--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 20:05, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
PDeitiker is becoming more of a man on a mission out to make a point now: [51] then to this [52]. His attempt to call for GA review as way to apply pressure during silly content disputes blew up in his face [53], as it had to, and this has led to an increase in problems. What his real point is, is difficult to define. The nominal target keeps changing.--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 15:47, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
I would like an admin opinion about this usage of the comments option on the R1a article: [56]. The record shows that PB666 is using such comments, and also making reviews about the quality of articles he is working on and/or disputing about. He then refers to reviews during disputes as if they were done by someone else, and more generally he quite frequently writes during disputes as if "people are watching". I have raised it with him on the talk page [57], and he has now reduced the size of these particular remarks but they seem to be things that should just be worked on either on the talkpage or else by simply trying to find better wordings etc. He quite openly objects to the idea that people should be able to post their reasons for disagreeing with the comments. When I tried to open discussion on the talkpage [58] he accused me of "getting all peeved about the 3 remaining comments, and then going biserk" and "carrying on the war ... working his Maelstorm" [59]. --Andrew Lancaster (talk) 19:52, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
Hello, I disagree with your decline on the ANI I had started. It was fully valid, and time should not make a difference. The fact is that the user is incivil and he was in fact engaged in a edit war so stale does not come into the question. But to the point, If I am unhappy with your application of rules and WP in terms of the equality rule, then is there anyplace I appeal your decision? Just answer here as it is easier for me to keep track this way. Hope this is ok. Fragma08 (talk) 17:29, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
I will be posting a reply forthwith (within the next few minutes). Thank you. I am sorry if this is the incorrect place to notify you that I got your message. Moogwrench (talk) 05:35, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
I just wanted to let you know that I had placed my reply to the ANI issue on the ANI board. Again, sorry if this is the incorrect place to notify you, I really don't know, since I never have had to deal with this before. Moogwrench (talk) 06:34, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
Please, stop —Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.23.253.111 (talk) 07:02, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
I notice you deleted the text I had appended to the paragraph dealing with General Stubblebine's testimony in the documentary "One Nation Under Siege". I find it very unfortunate that you deemed it necessary to also remove the link to the YouTube document I copied it from. I am not at all familiar with all those copyright concerns, although I know they do exist. In this particular case, I doubt very much that the copyright owner would object to having someone linking a Wikipedia article to a YouTube excerpt from his movie. He could more understandably object to YouTube distributing the video than for someone just linking to it. It seems to me that since he doesn't seem to object to the video being freely accessible on YouTube, it is very unlikely that he would object to someone merely providing a link to the publicly available document on YouTube.
That being said, I fail to see why the phrase mentioning that "he states that a Boeing 757 airplane could not have crashed into The Pentagon on September 11, 2001" was allowed to remain. What is the logic here? That information comes straight from the video. Why did you delete his views about the free press having become very expensive since 9/11 and kept intact those about the Boeing at the Pentagon ?
Is it because I faithfully transcribed what he said word for word? If that is the case, would it be acceptable to mention his thoughts if I summarized them in my own words? Oclupak (talk) 03:13, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
Hi Doug. Looks like I'm becoming involved in the problems with Yongle the Great (talk · contribs). Please have a look at the actions of Trương Hoàng Phong (talk · contribs). Seems to be yet another puppet, whether sock or meat I cannot tell. I have reported him to the administrators at WP:ANI#Trương Hoàng Phong, but I don't feel competent to undertake a clean-up. Favonian (talk) 11:04, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
Hi! First of all: it's not Resi but Reis, which is explained in Reis#Military rank. Secondly, as an admin, you must well know what this cat is supposed to be. If you really wanna know, check please cats for notable people. Cheers. CeeGee (talk) 19:14, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
I see now, İ didn't realize it. My bad. Sorry my comments. Cheers. CeeGee (talk) 19:41, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the note. Short of continuing to WP:RBI until they start to communicate, I don't know what else to suggest. The IPs are close enough that a rangeblock might be appropriate, but I've never done one and don't know what sort of collateral damage is acceptable - I wouldn't want to take out the entire country :) If they are static IPs that makes it easier, but at the moment I suppose we just have to wait and see. I've tagged the socks you mentioned. The only additional measure I can think of is article semiprotection; I realise there are quite a few articles involved, but it would curtail the IP editing. If we make it unproductive enough for them to continue evading the block, they may eventually be brought to the table. EyeSerenetalk 13:44, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
Don't you spell artifact with an "i"? Bernstein2291 (Talk • Contributions • Sign Here) 07:19, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
You were involved in a discussion regarding the use of copyrighted architectural designs on Wikipedia pages and I'm trying to find community consensus on a gray area. If you can, please let me know at what point you feel these images should be replaced here. Thank you so much! DR04 (talk) 19:28, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
Despite the arbitration, Tothwolf is doing large scale removals of edits I previously did, usually with no edit summary. On the discussion page he isn't answering why, but is telling me to fuck off and accusing me of paid editing. [62]. The paid editing accusation has no evidence in the arbitration and is a particularly egregious assault on my character - this community despises it as Jimbo has said it is never acceptable. I do not know how long this situation can simmer if the arbitration continues at idle. Is there anything that can be done in the mean time to make the attacks and revert warring stop? Miami33139 (talk) 21:09, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
Doug, what is the procedure to see this secret evidence? Miami33139 (talk) 15:58, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
Good point. I left a comment on User talk:Laura.grimblay about it. Enter CambridgeBayWeather, waits for audience applause, not a sausage 16:16, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
I think that the ((ACA)) is an obsolete version of the template. On the proposed decision template, it has ((ACMajority)). It seems that the two templates do the same thing, so I took an educated guess that that was the version I needed to subst ;-). Lankiveil (speak to me) 22:47, 12 December 2009 (UTC).
Thanks for the heads up. My activity is down now beacause of RL but I will try to keep an eye on it, Slrubenstein | Talk 18:49, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
From AN/I:
I had a lovely attack this morning from an 'astrologer' on an article talk page, " I here by send out my prayer that such people including Dougweller personally be slaughter by God between now and Feb 2. ". Dougweller (talk) 16:27, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
So waitaminit: don't "astrologers" pretty much nix the whole NOTION of "God"? And doesn't the Bible put the kibosh on all that "sorcery"-type stuff? Methinks your "astrologer" may be a bit off....GJC 18:50, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Hi there,
I'm having some trouble with the Battle of Thermopylae infobox again—as you may have seen. An IP address user made some changes which I reverted because they were, I felt, unhelpful. However, after some to-ing and fro-ing, their purpose has become relatively clear - to insert as low an estimate as possible for the Persian army into the infobox.
Predictably enough, the IP user is now claiming to be a professional historian, and demonstrating their thoroughly "professional" conduct [75]; [76]; [77].
Whilst this is not vandalism, it is certainly disruptive editing, and all too reminiscent of good old Ariobarza. I'm fairly sure it isn't Ariobarza, since the IP address is registered in Croatia (Ariobarza seemed to live in the US, but who knows). However, I had a very similar run-in with a now banned user, User:Orijentolog (whose IP address was also in Croatia) a few months ago, regarding a different infobox. The style of insults was very similar [78].
To cut a long story short, I'm after advice. Do you think it would be reasonable to get check-user run on this IP address/addresses? They seem to change their IP address everyday, so I'm not sure if it would actually be possible (no idea how the system works). To me, it seems like a good possibility that they are a banned user, but I'm not really sure what the burden of proof needs to be.
Best, MinisterForBadTimes (talk) 08:16, 15 December 2009 (UTC)