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On the contrary, I was the first target of personal remarks, and I will not shirk from defending myself in like terms. You should not presume things about my real life, and I'll do you the courtesy of refraining from proposing such hypotheses about you. Tony (talk) 14:01, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
This had nothing to do with citation templates. Someone had used a mix of two systems -- Harvard referencing and footnotes. It meant the reader had to click on the footnote, be taken to the Notes section, then click again on that link, and be taken to the full citation in yet another section. There's no need or justification for that.
What is going on here? I feel almost as though I'm being wikistalked. Neither you nor Avi have ever edited that page before that I can see, and yet Avi turned up to undo my entire copy edit, and now you're asking a question. Also, it would be better to discuss this on Talk:Citation, so I'll move the conversation there. SlimVirgin (talk)(contribs) 22:46, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
I guess I should join "Don't bug Carl about peer review anonymous", but it's nearly been a week now! PR is getting full, and it is not clear to me what the main issue is. A while back you produced a list of the top ten (or so) big transclusions at PR. Is this hard to do? Would you be able to do it again? Is it something that can be done automatically when, say, we get with 100KB of the limit? Geometry guy 19:53, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
PS. Thanks in addition for conciliatory comments and actions elsewhere.
VeblenBot has fallen silent again, and someone at Peer Review is asking for info. Do you have any? Cheers, Geometry guy 22:06, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
Sure. Here's the list of categories I am currently listing, with an X on the ones that I think you mean. Could you verify that? — Carl (CBM · talk) 17:38, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
Those are the ones. For the rest, maintain the status quo, whatever that is. Thanks, Geometry guy 18:35, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
I need an admin to change the code on Template:Cite book. Please see this post to see the code that needs to change. It has been 4 days with no comments or responses. The change in code only affects the anchor ID, which only involves linking to it. Cuñado ☼ - Talk 05:04, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
Please join the discussion here. WilliamKF (talk) 22:39, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
I'll keep it in mind next time. bibliomaniac15 00:34, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
I'm a Chippewa Indian who was looking through articles on defense contracting and I found one that included both topics on wikipedia. unfortunately it was deleted just a few hours after I viewed it and I became very disappointed when I returned to that page from my bookmarks. I understand you are one of the few editors who extend an extra effort to give back the code to users if an article is deleted. That is a very valuable service and I'm sure you receive much praise for it. I was wondering if you would you give me the code for the wiki article Ishpi as it is very important to me and my research. Thank you!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Georgelulu (talk • contribs) 06:08, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
A tag has been placed on Template:Maths acd requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section T3 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a deprecated or orphaned template. After seven days, if it is still unused and the speedy deletion tag has not been removed, the template will be deleted.
If the template is intended to be substituted, please feel free to remove the speedy deletion tag and please consider putting a note on the template's page indicating that it is substituted so as to avoid any future mistakes (<noinclude>((transclusionless))</noinclude>).
Thanks. --MZMcBride (talk) 19:59, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Carl, I hope you are enjoying your travels. When you return, would you mind looking into making the edit on ((User))? Thanks. ~ PaulT+/C 12:37, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Carl, when you get back, could you take a look at this thread? There's a chance I made need your help to set up a new category list from Category:General peer reviews: I switched this today to list only the peer reviews which do not have topic names, but it may still be useful to have a list which contains all peer review pages. If I understand correctly, such a list will be cached on your computer until sometime on Monday. Geometry guy 21:27, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
How do we know? How many people visited any article in Wikipedia? Are there any way to know that? Thank you, —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.229.236.214 (talk) 22:02, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
Is it allowed to use images from [British Museum], I am just wondering if I can use this image for example: [Sword]
Thank you for your help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by LakeOswego (talk • contribs) 22:52, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
Hi CBM, I've temporarily reverted your change to Template:User because it was having the effect of adding a hard carriage return after every use fot he template. This usually resulted in a line break followed by a space, which meant Wiki layout was breaking in a lot of places. I think the problem is your first <noinclude> was on a separate line, which meant the template included a return. For now I've reverted back your change entirely to be on the safe side. Thanks, Gwernol 12:53, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
You write "It isn't true that an atomic sentence is same as a sentence with no subsentence - "\forall x (Rx)"", though 'subsentence' is often defined so that for any term t not containing x free, Rt is a subformula of (x)Rx. By this generally accepted definition of subformula, an atomic formula is the same thing as a formula with no proper subformula. Perhaps you can give a reference which gives a different definition of subformula. I have repeated this discussion in the talk page. Nortexoid (talk) 21:36, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
What is Nortexoid trying to say? It is seurely true that no part of an atomic sentence less than the whole. Is her some counter example? --Philogo (talk) 14:43, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
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Regards --User:Mitrebox talk 2008-02-22 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.11.244.78 (talk) 07:50, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
Hi!
We we talked a long time ago about full article stats for the WP1.0 project. I had to rewrite some of the code to get the data in a usable format - I've finally had enough time to put together a dump. You can find it here: http://stats.grok.se/~henrik/wikistats/ (these are stats from February 1 to February 23 2008)
There are four files: the top 1000, top 10000, top 100000 and the full list in that directory (about 2GB uncompressed). I plan on getting a more usable web front end with this data as well as keeping it updated as time progresses - it'd be nice to be able to get the most viewed pages in a specific category for example, but you might have some use for this as well. henrik•talk 15:57, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
Hya. There's been some talk over at wp:good article nominations about how we might switch from the edit heavy procedure GA follows now to a bot-assisted procedure similar to wp:pr. I'm thinking of volunteering to design/write/implement the bot we'd need, and as VeblenBot does a similar task, was wondering if I might be able to get a copy of it to build from? Also any other advice you might impart would be most appreciated ;-) --jwandersTalk 09:05, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
VeblenBot decided today that it would be more fun to sort the GAR discussions alphabetically rather than by date. I've undone the edit, but could you provide suitable chastisement and remediation for the bot? :-) Thanks, Geometry guy 19:36, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
WP:ECON already has a table, but I like the one you made for Math better. I like how you can click on the intersections of class and importance and clearly see which articles are in there. Let me know if you can do that for WP:ECON as well. I've already broken down our articles into more specific categories of class + importance rather than just class or importance, to make it easier. Gary King (talk) 17:35, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
Hi CBM I wanted to let you know that Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/VeblenBot 6 has been approved. Please visit the above link for more information. Thanks! BAGBot (talk) 21:40, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
Carl, further to this thread, we really do need a category list for all current peer reviews: this is both to help with semi-automated peer reviewing and to help with maintenance. So I'd like to populate a category with all the current peer reviews, while also maintaining a category (presently Category:General peer reviews) of current peer reviews without a topic specified. I'd like VeblenBot to list both, but maintain the correct dates for all current peer reviews.
It seems to me that the easiest way to do this is to leave Category:General peer reviews untouched, populate a new Category:Current peer reviews with all current peer reviews, list it, but copy over the cache from Category:General peer reviews so that VeblenBot thinks the articles in it have been there for longer than they have. Is that doable? I won't populate the category yet, as it may be easier to make the cache fix first. There's no rush on this; enjoy your travels! Geometry guy 18:54, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
(←) Many thanks, Carl. I've checked through and the dates are almost perfect. The only issue is Wikipedia:Peer_review/2007_Hugo_Award_for_Best_Dramatic_Presentation,_Short_Form/archive1, which should be dated 21:54, 22 February 2008 (UTC). However, this may have been caused by a server error. Am I right in thinking that the 48 hour cache is not enabled for subject-specific reviews? Geometry guy 15:05, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
(←) Switching on the caching appears to have had the side effect of reversing the sort order of the subject specific peer reviews. Could you switch them back (to newest first)? Thanks, Geometry guy 10:19, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi. Per Wikipedia talk:Miscellany for deletion#Mass Uncontroversial Deletions, the deletion of the project pages has not been contested, so can they be deleted? The list is at User:Collectonian/WIP4. Thanks. Collectonian (talk) 07:55, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
Carl, could you reverse the sort order of User:VeblenBot/C/Wikipedia featured article candidates to present newest first just like WP:FAC does? I don't know if FAC will be interested, but I think it is worth demonstrating what can be done. Geometry guy 19:24, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi! I made this change since the page wasn't correctly formatted (at least not for me), but your bot reverted the change. /P¤ntus (talk) 18:51, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
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Woudl it be possible (assuming it woudl be useful) for VelanBot to produce a table showing "Math articles by field and importance", possibly as extra columns in the "Math articles by field and quality" table? Tompw (talk) (review) 12:28, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
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Pratt has asked me to look into COI regarding Multipundit. I checked the contribution history and it certainly looks like an SPA. Do you think notification at the COI board would be appropriate? I'm sympathetic to the thrill of discovering a new cool idea, but we all are burdened with peer-review and have to be patient. Pete St.John (talk) 19:03, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
That was an auto generated summary by AWB. I wonder why the glitch? Sorry bout that anyways. UzEE 13:36, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi CBM, I think the frequentlyviewed param is a brilliant idea. As a matter of fact I hand-compiled my own table for some of the most frequently-viewed prob & stats articles, but i don't have the programming skills or the patience to take it any further. Do you have a table somewhere with the numbers you're using? Any plans to use this info in the existing tables you compile for Wikipedia:WikiProject Mathematics/Wikipedia 1.0 ? Regards, Qwfp (talk) 21:51, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
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Only today I discovered that I have a page "my talk." That's why I'm answering to your kind message of February 28 only now. I am really new at WIKIPEDIA and need advice from such qualified Wikipedians as you are. I will follow your advice related to repeatedly using bold for each occurrence of a term and I will not to remove references, when they are important for readers. However, what you would advise to do when references include some secondary publications and miss publications in important journals. Before I did my changes, I had looked on the Web what publications are attributed to Burgin in my effort to understand the theory of super-recursive algorithms. I had found that his publications in important journals are missing. I did not want to make the list of Burgin's publications too long as it's not an article dedicated to him. So, I excluded some secondary publications. Sorry about this.
Besides I have a question. What is the difference between contributors and editors?
With respect, Multipundit (talk) 21:06, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi - thanks for the message - not sure how I can fix this with my limited abilities. It should be the Problem of future contingents, indeed it seems to have existed under that name in some past life. But I don't want to break anything. Renamed user 5 (talk) 17:13, 16 March 2008 (UTC) [edit] I see you have fixed it anyway - I doubt I will have to do this again, that was an odd one - thanks Renamed user 5 (talk) 17:15, 16 March 2008 (UTC).
Hi Carl - could you update your script so that it checks Category:Current peer reviews instead of Category:General peer reviews? Thanks - Geometry guy 13:18, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
Hiya Carl. I saw that you were one of the participants in the older discussion at WP:V/Archive 21, and I just want to make it clear that I think your statements are both reasonable and an important part of the debate. I didn't answer your question about what change I'm asking for; that's because I don't really have any particular change in mind. I just want the final product to take my main concern into account: "The disconnect between all the previous discussion I can find (those 3 links I gave) on the subject of whether Wikipedia can and should be cited academically, vs. what WP:Citing Wikipedia and WP:V say, gives more than enough ammunition to anyone who wants to take a shot at us." And, of course, as a general principle, WP:V should be clear about past and present consensus, and I don't think it currently is. I'm putting this on your user page instead of WP:V because I think clarity and repetition are good when talking with a person and bad when they make group discussions longer than they need to be. - Dan Dank55 (talk) 16:27, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
My statement was based on a specific claim made a while back by a member of BAG (I can't find it now) that they never examine tasks for community consensus on whether the task should be done. —Random832 13:05, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
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There are multifaceted topics related to many articles. Very often these articles have different discussion participants. That's why it would be useful to discuss multifaceted topics on all related article pages. That's why I did this. - Multipundit (talk) 01:59, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
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For fixing up my goof with WP 1.0 I hereby award you this Special Barnstar of Thanks. §tepshep • ¡Talk to me! 03:23, 24 March 2008 (UTC) |
Hi Carl,
can you please run your lexer and pull out all citations of physics pages, please? If the gadget runs unter Windows, you can also send me the program, if it tedious for you, so that I can try it on my own. Thanks. I will try to include the physics references then.
Jakob.scholbach (talk) 11:00, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
While we have had some trouble in the last day due to abuse (like the one you disabled), we will probably wind up using editprotected more often that you would like. If you look at the protection log for that page, you will be able to see the problem we are trying to work through. Even when we get the more mature editors from both sides working together, a couple of hotheads will show up, edit-war the hell out of the thing, and get it locked up again.
I can't ask you to make edits that you don't want to. I do ask that if you see a correctly formatted editprotected request, containing a pointer to a discussion, where that discussion reached a consensus on the change, that you let it sit for the next admin to look at instead of disabling it.Kww (talk) 20:50, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
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Could you ask VeblenBot to list Category:GAR/36? Thanks. Geometry guy 22:58, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
PS. It seems to me that it may be sensible to substitute old archives (such as Category:GAR/34) and hence decommission VeblenBot listing for them. Let me know if you have any views on this.
Hi Carl, take your time with the lexer for the physics references. I'm also off for a couple of days. Also, if I can do something to alleviate the work for you, I'm obviously ready to do so. Step by step, I plan to fill up the zeteo database with the refs in WP. Perhaps at some point it would be worth thinking about a somewhat automatic procedure which would do the work you do now. Thanks again, Jakob.scholbach (talk) 12:20, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
I was unfamiliar with the Harvard Style of citations. I have now read the reference given to me, Thanks for the correction. Matthew Glennon (talk) 19:10, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
I've started drafting a user conduct RfC that you might be interested in here. There's a lot of evidence to sift through and present, so I think it will take awhile to get it put together. If you'd like to participate, please feel free to do so. Cla68 (talk) 06:34, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
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http://tools.wikimedia.de/~cbm/cgi-bin/peerrev.cgi isn't working for me at the moment: it hangs at the "Getting lock" stage. I need this fairly soon to avoid archiving new peer reviews. Do you see what the problem is? Geometry guy 22:42, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
How??? I'm as far from an expert as you can get on this topic, and I saw instantly the obvious fact that "mythology" was intended. I can't imagine how anyone could miss that no matter how hard they tried. It's about a god. So it's mythology. Michael Hardy (talk) 20:14, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
So I've been told I my userpage has (briefly) been the talk of the IRC channel and Bugzilla. D: Hope everything got sorted out and sorry for this interesting incident . . . I may request my user and talk pages be semi protected so as to avoid giving you guys more problems to fix. :P -WarthogDemon 03:30, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
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You wrote:
Where did that number come from? When a newbie goes away in disgust after his contribution is mistakenly deleted, he doesn't get counted. Numbers like this appear to me to be just fiction. Michael Hardy (talk) 01:29, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
Your comments leave me surer than I was that it's fiction. Michael Hardy (talk) 03:14, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
Hi Carl - could you ask VeblenBot to start tracking Category:April 2008 peer reviews? Also, there is no need to track Category:February 2008 peer reviews any more: I've substituted to make WP:Peer review/February 2008 static. Geometry guy 09:43, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
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I'm not sure whether you watch my talk page: so here is the reply to your request concerning the edition field in the zeteo database:
Are you talking about "edition" or about something different? The edition parameter is already provided in zeteo. Jakob.scholbach (talk) 12:26, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
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The word "remarkable" is used fairly commonly in mathematics: it is not unencyclopedic. As you are probably aware, Gauss himself used the words Theorema egregium to describe his results on the Differential geometry of surfaces. Various results in mathematics are surprising and I do not believe it is for WP editors to suggest otherwise. As described in detail in Shalom's 2006 ICM talk (that I added to the references), the initial approach to property (T) was through the representation theory of real Lie groups, often where the dual was known explicitly. Even for SL(n,R), the representation theory of the semidirect product of R² by SL(2,R) was required. However, thanks to the work of Burger, Shalom, Gromov and others, there are direct methods, completely outside representation theory, for establishing property (T) for discrete groups, for which the unitary duals can never be determined (if nonamenable, they are not Type I in the sense of George Mackey and James Glimm). To say this is remarkable is not a "peacock" use of the word. It is standard practice amongst mathematicians. However, I have reworded the sentence from the lead (which I originally inserted) to avoid the use of this word but restore the original sense. Cheers, Mathsci (talk) 08:19, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
Bugzilla 13260 is the main issue here. I'm writing bad (opaque, confusing) code just to avoid nested transclusions, but there is a limit as to how far this can go: peer reviewers should not have to face a page of weird template code before they can get to the business of writing a review. I have documented the bug at WP:Template limits. Any other ideas you have to raise the priority of this bug would help a lot. Geometry guy 21:55, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
Hi Carl, thanks for your work with VeblenBot to keep PR running smoothly. I was wondering if it could also do some or all of the archiving of peer reviews? If it could that would be great, if not would you suggest submitting a bot request or is there another user to ask (that is a bot operator)?
Anyway, here is what needs to be done in order of most useful to least useful:
One complicating factor is that whenever the partial transclusion trick is done, it is an edit and so extends the deadline for no responses - I ignore these when I archive.
Thanks in advance for considering this, but please don't feel obligated. Ruhrfisch ><>°° 01:13, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
PS I wondered if the Peer review space warning threshold could be made slightly larger - say 93% instead of 90%? Ruhrfisch ><>°° 01:13, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
This is the same editor who reverted my change: [2]. From the edit summary it appears that this is not an accomplished mathematician. See also this editor's weird remarks at Talk:Complex number#Shouldn't the lack of ordering be mentioned?, culminating in the suggestion that I don't understand the table I constructed myself. Earlier he conceded that "formally" was (see talk:Complex number#Definition of a 'complex number' and check point 2 ("I agree") in the first response of 17:30, 23 February 2008 (UTC). --Lambiam 20:25, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
The zeteo bug you kindly reported is now fixed. Jakob.scholbach (talk) 13:42, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
Would it be possible for me to receive the policy/guideline notices on my talk page (or, probably better, a sub-page of my talk page)? - jc37 19:10, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
Ok, so are you having a totally groovy day? I hope you are. Have a wonderful wonderful life! Because its like my goal to be friends with everyone in wikipedia. Will you be my totally awesome groovy wiki-friend?
216.229.227.142 (talk) 15:36, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
What's wrong with trying to make friends so that I can become a more knowledgable and active wikipedia member, that's all I'm doing and people are saying its vandalism. This is making me seriously sad!
216.229.227.142 (talk) 15:46, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
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I see you answer on the template talk page quite a lot. What do you think of my proposal? (See the bottom of the template talk page) Simply south (talk) 17:24, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
I would like to invite you and Phil Sandifer to discuss the matter from WT:NOR further at User talk:Vassyana#NOR discussion. Thanks! Vassyana (talk) 23:13, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
Hi Carl, I didn't want to post the whole laundry list of MathSci's transgressions at first, but since you and a few other editors were genuinely confused by what I meant, and moreover, since he continued to attack me on the math project talk page, I did mention a few of them, after all. By the way, you hit the nail on the head with the unencyclopaedic character of the formulation at Property (T), this is exactly why I wanted it changed. I would have written much the same justification, but I simply cannot handle MathSci's arrogant and denigrating attitude any more, and my own peace of mind is becoming more important to me than the objective quality of articles on Wikipedia. It has been pleasure working with you, and I truly admire your steadfastness, common sense, and objectivity. Many happy years of editing and administrating to you! Arcfrk (talk) 08:14, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
Please fix the bot to recognize pages which were moved after being protected. The source of the page can be found in the history, and information from that log may be helpful for admins considering the request. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 08:39, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
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At ANI you said "I'll need to look into this more. I was under the impression they were all orphaned pages with no edit history." Did you ever get the chance to do that? I made this post that might explain some of the confusion. It is also possible that people confuse orphaned talk page redirects, orphaned redirects, and talk pages without a corresponding page (also sometimes called orphaned talk pages). In this case, as I said over there, orphaned means no backlinks. Except of course that these pages did have backlinks to the Wikipedia and User namespaces (the bot was programmed to ignore those when looking for talk page redirects without backlinks). Carcharoth (talk) 21:11, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
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Hi Carl, I have had a few more observations on PR archiving that would be potential bugs for VeblenBot.
First off, some users put the PR template on the article page instead of the talk page. Geometry guy has recently made it so that doing this generates a warning. Prior to this, I have seen about 2-4 instances each month of this reviewing and archiving PR. Not sure if the warning will stop it or just reduce the incidence.
Second, some users try to close the PR by simply deleting the PR template from the talk page and leaving the actual /archiveN page unchanged. I add the PR template back in by hand then.
Finally, I was wondering if it would be possible for VeblenBot to do the semi-automated peer review (AndyZ's script) for each new entry as it is added to the PR page the first time? I can explain in detail how I do this now if you want / need to know. It is not that much work, so I can do it - the real timessavings would be automating archiving. Thanks, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 19:08, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
Another possible problem - the name of the article is changed during peer review. See this diff for example. Ruhrfisch ><>°° 01:17, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
Hi CBM - hope you're good! I've been talking a bit lately about how wiki friends should try and support each other by affirming great behaviour, and by criticising less than good behaviour (although in a friendly fashion!).
It is with this in mind that I thought I'd pop over here and let you know that I didn't really think your post to Giano's talk page was a very good idea. You may not see it as a big deal (and actually, that'd likely be right - it isn't in the scheme of things!) - and you're certainly correct that assumptions of bad faith etc. are not on. There is at the moment, however, a bit of a feeling that some sorts of criticism, particularly Giano's plain speaking, are being unnecessarily squished - and that's a very bad thing; much worse, in my view, than the worry that Giano is somehow saying something surprising or upsetting. I, and maybe many others, feel that Giano is not only a huge project asset, but is owed some significant apology from the community for recent, and not so recent events. Unfortunately there are a few editors in this unhappy situation, and it's really not on!
Do pop by my talk page if you want to talk about any of this stuff, otherwise have a great wiki week, and cheers for now! Privatemusings (talk) 22:21, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
Carl, thanks for your kind comments. Here's the February diff of the Footnotes page. Please let me know if I got it wrong. Tony (talk) 14:08, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
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In connection with your kind offer of help with peer review archiving, could you also think about the semi-automated peer review (SAPR) process?
At the moment these are essentially all done by Ruhrfisch. Partly because not all editors like to be reviewed by a script, and also now to keep within page size limits, these SAPRs are stored separately, in pages organized by month (see WP:Peer review/Automated/April 2008). This also helps Ruhrfisch make efficient use of the time he generously contributes to the peer review process because he can do a whole bunch of SAPRs in a batch and paste the results into the currently monthly page. To let editors know that an article has received an SAPR, and link them to it, a notice is added to the peer review page of the article. These notices also help Ruhrfisch to see which articles have not received SAPR as he scans through WP:Peer reviews by date — something which he can do at the same time as looking for peer reviews to archive.
Ruhrfisch commented a while ago that adding these SAPR notices was very time-consuming, because it couldn't be done in a batch, but only article by article. In response, I came up with a "clever" way to produce them automatically: on the monthly SAPR page, each SAPR has an onlyinclude section containing the signature of the editor who ran the script (almost always Ruhrfisch, under the SAPR pseudonym of AndyZ); each peer review page (using ((PR/header))) transcludes the monthly SAPR page and tests whether there is an SAPR for the article; if there is, ((PR/header)) generates the notice and transcludes the signature. Net result: Ruhrfisch no longer has to add the notices — great!
Well, not so great, because the problem with my "clever" solution is that each peer review page has to transclude the entire monthly SAPR page twice. Of course, it is just the "onlyinclude" sections which get transcluded, and these are small when the pagename test fails, but still, it must amount to at least 500 bytes. With 100 articles typically at peer review, that's a transclusion of 50000 bytes, which gets multiplied by a factor of four, thanks to the preprocessor bug, because it is nested through ((PR/header)), the peer review, VeblenBot, and WP:Peer review itself. Suddenly my "clever" idea costs 200000 bytes!
The trouble is, I can't think of a way to do it without using a bot or making the process more time consuming for Ruhrfisch. I could save a transclusion by moving this code out of ((PR/header)), but that doesn't really address the issue. The whole thing needs a rethink. A bot could help: it could automatically add SAPR notices to peer review pages, avoiding the embarrassing transclusion. Of course, at one extreme the (S)APRs could be automated entirely. I'd be really grateful for your thoughts and ideas.
I'm really sorry to bother you with all this, but peer review has become a victim of its own successful rebirth: we have been walking on a knife edge for months and it shows what a generous and good natured editor Ruhrfisch is that he hasn't thrown in the towel by now. Anyway, enough cliches, this post is way too long, and I'm grateful to you just for reading it! Geometry guy 16:21, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
Hi Carl - Just following up on our earlier conversation at my talk page, where you offered to help me build a wikitable with the expanded evidence for the case noted above. I've now finished the evidence gathering (and identified that we need to have a cheat sheet for all the AN and ANI archives—but that is a project for another day), and have it stashed here. I'm visualising a table with 8 equally wide columns, and the 9th, which will probably need to be 50% wider than the others. Do you think that would work? And would you be able to at least get me started? I usually only need to be shown something once, so with luck this should be a one-off request.
As a suggestion, you or another admin might want to look at a random sampling of Tango's deletions; one thing I can't do, but expect is fine, as almost all of the articles remain redlinks. I am thinking it would be helpful to the arbitrators to be reassured there are no concerns about Tango's administrative work in other areas, so they can focus on the one issue before them.
Thanks again for your offer of assistance. Risker (talk) 01:16, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
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Hi Carl, I made the new archive page for peer review for May at Wikipedia:Peer review/May 2008, but the VeblenBot archive page there needs to be made.
Also if you are going to implement a size criterion for automatically going to partial transclusion, I am currently switching any peer review larger than 8 kB to partial translcusion (used to be 10 kb, but WP:PR got too large).
Thanks as always for your help and great bot, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 11:52, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
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Howdy, would you be willing to modify your dab lister in two ways for a little project of mine: I want to find all *mathematician* articles that do *not* have a disambig link to them.
Well technically, I want those that don't have links from their surname disambig pages, but with naming conventions being so loose I'm not sure I feel comfortable asking for such a thing as a "minor" modification. If you see an easy way to do it, I am happy of course.
I suspect there are tons of pages without surname links (really MOST I have looked for), and I suspect most have no redirect or disambig linking to them at all. I've been on a small crusade to fix them as they appear on the Current Activity, but you know how crusades are these days. Can hardly find time to get the suit of armor on before something else comes up.
Anyways, D.A. Mr. Roboto in advance. JackSchmidt (talk) 17:56, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi Carl. WP 1.0 bot is not running recently. Do you happen to know why? You can comment at Wikipedia talk:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Index. Thanks. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 05:38, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
I tried to move signature (mathematical logic) over the redirect from signature (logic), but I can't because it has pseudo-nontrivial history. Would you mind doing it? The "mathematical" part is a bit clumsy, and there seems to be no homonym in logic. This is part of my new project of refurbishing first-order logic. --Hans Adler (talk) 16:56, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
I would like to invite you to consider taking part in the AGF Challenge which has been proposed for use in the RfA process [3] by User: Kim Bruning. You can answer in multiple choice format, or using essay answers, or anonymously. You can of course skip any parts of the Challenge you find objectionable or inadvisable.--Filll (talk) 04:20, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
hey Carl, many stats are not being updated, can you please fix it? Wikipedia:WikiProject Lebanon/Assessment#Assessments
Gr8 thank u :) Eli+ 16:16, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your question. We really need to figure out what the basics are - where do we agree, where do we disagree. That whole discussion has gotten out of hand. Guettarda (talk) 18:04, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks! Ejg930 (talk) 17:29, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
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Hi Carl, WP:PR is only displaying the first 5 topics of 10, and the date sorted PR page says there is a "node count limit exceeded" error. There should be over 120 peer reiews there, but it is chopping off the bottom 50 or so. Can you fix this? I will also post this at Geometry guy's talk page. Ruhrfisch ><>°° 19:47, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
It would be great if the semi-automated peer review (SAPR) were added to the article when it is listed at peer review. If that were the case, not only would it save me work, but it would also save transcluding the SAPR to the PR page, which would save some space. If the archiving were automatic, the link to edit the article talk page would also not be needed (at least by me to archive). The other idea I has was to have the topic be a pull down menu, much [like] the license is on images at Wikimedia Commons uploading. I am not sure if these are the kinds of things you are looking for. I have a much more radical idea, but need to ask some people about that. Ruhrfisch ><>°° 00:39, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
I just noticed that the article on abstract model is now called formal interpretation. Does this really make sense, given the kinds of non-formal models discussed in that article? Several years ago there used to be a single article on "models" (which covered scale models among other things) and this was one reason for splitting off this article. Maybe we should get rid of it altogether.--CSTAR (talk) 05:16, 10 May 2008 (UTC)