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Hi! Concerning this edit by you and WP:EL. I believe that the official YouTube channel and the link to the official blog are happen to be "official sites unavailable in English" and they do "contain visual aids". =) The blog is by their management, not by fans. Please, don't remove them. =) By the way, this and this are obviously fakes and they are repeatedly added to ºC-ute and Airi Suzuki (you may be able to help). And I guess you were right about the link to the iTunes store. Moscowconnection (talk) 01:22, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
Hello, I am Michelle. You removed a picture of Susana Gonzalez from the article about her. Why?--Mychele (talk) 11:21, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
When image is free and is from Wikimedia, can be used everywhere?
Thank you, Beetstra, really thank you. - talk — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.136.104.102 (talk) 14:56, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
Note that what the Foundation requires, per its resolution, is that a rationale for using an NFC image must *exist*, not that it must be *written down*. The latter is an implementation measure adopted by en-wiki. This was clarified in an August 2007 message by Kat Walsh [1] that I linked in the recent Delta/Nightscream discussion at WP:AN3; but it seems from a recent edit at WP:AN/I [2] that you might not have seen this, so I thought I'd just flag it again, in the interests of ongoing historical accuracy. Jheald (talk) 16:35, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
With respect to this edit, did you look at the image description page before removing it? The image clearly had a FUR for the article although the FUR was pointing to the disambiguation page rather than the article. I would have thought it would have been easier and much less disruptive (given the actions of DASHbot once the image was orphaned) to have corrected the FUR rather than remove the image. Have now updated the FUR and restored the image. Dpmuk (talk) 08:52, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
Thank you for contributing to Wikipedia. We always appreciate when users add images to discussion pages. However, it appears that one or more of the images you have recently added to a discussion may fail our non-free image policy. Most often, this involves editors adding non-free material to a non-mainspace page. Please note that we take very seriously our criteria on non-free image additions outside of the main article namespace, and users who repeatedly misuse non-free images may be blocked from editing.
If Since you will dispute this application of policy, please accuse User:Δ of WP:ABF, violating WP:3RR, disliking images, and having a general distaste for marsupials. Please ensure your accusation of him is posted at one or more drama boards (the wider the net, the better), couched in a personal insult against him, and do not notify him of the discussion so the discussion can gain consensus against him. --Hammersoft (talk) 16:26, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
Sorry, just had to rib you for this edit where you added non-free content to a discussion while suggesting you had a solution to some of our NFCC problems ;) --Hammersoft (talk) 16:26, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
Two points: First, I never stated or implied anything to the effect of "it must be correct because I don't see, nor understand, what is wrong." While my initial revert was based on the conclusion that the rationale was correct (and that perhaps Delta made an error), in subsequent discussions I flat-out asked him what was wrong with it, which I pointed out in that discussion on his talk page ad nauseum, which has nothing to do with, nor bears any resemblance to the distortion of my position quoted above, and underscores the inanity of the remark "I do hope that on next occasions where you run into a removal by ∆, that you then think 'Oh, maybe there is something wrong, let me see if I can repair it', or ask Delta if he can help". If you can't distinguish between my actual words and behavior and these alternate universe descriptions of them, much less see that I plainly did what you imply I didn't, then, then please do not participate in discussions with me.
Second, in answer to your statement "let me bring this again to your attention, example: diff by you or diff by you. Your edit summary here is way less informative than ∆, how is the editor who added that supposed to know what unsourced here means - you do not link specifically to that." First of all, the links I provided to the WP:V and WP:NOR most certainly do explain what sourcing is, in a quite straightforward manner that does not involve figuring out which among a labyrinthine set of criteria, so your statement that I "did not link specifically to it is false.
As to your accusation that I do not "discuss" the matter with the editors who add unsourced material, well, golly gee whiz, Dirk, did you look through the more detailed, explanatory messages that I leave on the talk pages of the editors who add the unsourced material (most of which are anonymous IP editors who may be one-off editors not likely to return to source the material), which I do daily (y'know, like here, here, here or here)?
Did you notice that most of those messages include line "If you have any other questions about editing, or need help regarding the site's policies, just let me know by leaving a message for me in a new section at the bottom of my talk page."?, with a link to that talk page to make it easier for them?
Did you look to see that when a discussion arises, I most certainly do engage them in conversation in which I try to explain to them, in a polite and friendly manner, all about sourcing and source reliability (y'know, like here), even when they are less than friendly themselves, like here or here? Delta displays nothing of this openness or helpfulness, preferring to stonewall when legitimate attempts are made to ask him questions.
So if you wanted to make an analogy between my communications with others and those of Delta's (or for that matter, demonstrate that you know how to do a bit of research), then you failed quite spectacularly. Nightscream (talk) 16:32, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
Hi~ honestly. I can't understand what you mean totly. So you mean that only one page can use non-free file? Please remove that file on Anyang LG Cheetahs. FC Seoul page is a superordinate concept to a Anyang LG Cheetahs page.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Footwiks (talk • contribs)
My English is poor. So I can't accept your direction. I hope that you do it instead of me. Thank you.— Preceding unsigned comment added by footwiks (talk • contribs)
Hi. I would appreciate if you would please check out the Lisinopril history. This article contains a live example of a transcluded drugbox template. I realize that currently there is no consensus to use transcluded tempates, but I wanted to keep this one intact as a live example of how the transclusion would work. I tried shutting down the edit priviliges for the article by adding the ((nobots)) template to the article, but that did not seem to work. Your thoughts? Boghog (talk) 20:03, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
Is the code for user:NFCCheckBot available somewhere? I'd like to help. John Vandenberg (chat) 01:33, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
This entry has previously mixed and merged two completely different medications, Homatropine, an analog of Atropine and Methylhomatropine, the corresponding quaternary ammonium ion/salt. The latter one does not cross the blood/brain barrier, acts only peripherally and has different indications, compare to Scopolamine vs. Butylscopolamine (Buscopan), that is the same constellation. I have separated this into two entries, could you please take a look, that the chemboxes/drugboxes are now ok, I am not sure if my copy paste edit got everything right. Also a new picture is needed for Homatropine. See discussions there. 70.137.149.219 (talk) 07:06, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
There is a bug that happened in the update, it reverted the uii of homatropine to homatropine methylbromide, which is the wrong drug, and which was previously in this entry. can you take a look? I think it has to be reverted, the bot seems to insist it is the old chemical namely methylhomatropine, the quaternary compound. 70.137.136.46 (talk) 10:25, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
Bummer!. There is a bug in the bot update, it got it wrong again and reverted to the methylhomatropine. The manual value was correct. 70.137.136.46 (talk) 10:44, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
A glitch [3]? Materialscientist (talk) 01:11, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
If you know how to solve it, do it by yourself. Why you just speak in a commanding tone? I don't understand your action.— Preceding unsigned comment added by footwiks (talk • contribs)
Thanks for that -I was kind of hoping noone would notice for a few hours :P The article will be going live within the hour Brian | (Talk) 10:59, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
I've made a comment at User talk:Pdfpdf#Your block that you should be aware of. Thanks! -- Lear's Fool 14:17, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
Then surely that article itself shouldn't exist? That one image I left on there was a logo. If you think it doesn't identify the organisation, then the entire page should probably just be merged with ITV1. Digifiend (talk) 11:57, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
Wikipedia does not have firm rules. Rules in Wikipedia are not carved in stone, and their wording and interpretation are likely to change over time. The principles and spirit of Wikipedia's rules matter more than their literal wording, and sometimes improving Wikipedia requires making an exception to a rule. Be bold (but not reckless) in updating articles and do not worry about making mistakes. Your efforts do not need to be perfect; prior versions are saved, so no damage is irreparable.
Northamerica1000 (talk) 12:55, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
Instruction creep occurs when Wikipedia guideline or policy pages contain statements that expound upon unimportant details and minutiae, often in ways that exaggerate the situation or severely limit options and thus don't reflect true community consensus. To avoid errors and maximize usefulness, policies and guidelines should be as brief and simple as reasonably possible.
There are two major causes of instruction creep:
Northamerica1000 (talk) 12:59, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
like you did at Twist and Shout (EP), would it be possible for you to simply explain how a particular image fails NFCC? Radiopathy •talk• 14:37, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
Since being an involved user, please do join in with the discussion on Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#List_of_Rozen_Maiden_characters. Thank you. Island Monkey talk the talk 16:38, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at List of Rozen Maiden characters, you may be blocked from editing. Fleet Command (talk) 15:15, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
This is your last warning; the next time you vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at List of Rozen Maiden characters, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Fleet Command (talk) 15:27, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on List of Rozen Maiden characters. Users are expected to collaborate with others and avoid editing disruptively.
In particular, the three-revert rule states that:
If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you continue to edit war, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Island Monkey talk the talk 15:32, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
Puffin Let's talk! 15:45, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
Hi Dirk, When you have a moment, can you have a look at etizolam? CheMoBot seems to be having a bit of trouble with it. Thanks. -- Ed (Edgar181) 22:49, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
"WikiProject Report" would like to focus on WikiProject Spam for a Signpost article. This is an excellent opportunity to draw attention to your efforts and attract new members to the project. Would you be willing to participate in an interview? If so, here are the questions for the interview. Just add your response below each question and feel free to skip any questions that you don't feel comfortable answering. Other editors will also have an opportunity to respond to the interview questions. If you know anyone else who would like to participate in the interview, please share this with them. Have a great day. -Mabeenot (talk) 19:28, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
Hi Beetstra. After further clarifying the useage of File:ktvo cbs.png in its summary I have reverted your edit that removed it from the Wiki KTVO-DT2. I didn't quite understand your original "beef" with it to begin with, seeing as its useage was virtually the same as dozens of other tv and radio station logos on Wikipedia. But whatever. If you still have a problem with the rationale maybe we should take this up with an admin or something. Its my feeling that if the KTVO-DT2 logo isn't permissible then there are a huge number of other logos that will need to be removed ASAP as well. Sector001 (talk) 21:36, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
Well I'm not sure why you're taking the tone of my original note as "hostile". My intent was far from it. I just simply wanted to know why KTVO-DT2 was seemingly singled out for removal. If we ever have further communication I'll try to remember to couch it with butterflies, rainbows, and other such frivolity. lol. Maybe its just a cultural difference thing. Have a WONDERFUL day filled with all things sweetness and light.Sector001 (talk) 18:17, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
Can you please take a look at "Homatropine methylbromide", I have edited this redirect to correctly point to "Methylhomatropine". Before this was wrong. But it still resolves to "Homatropine", so this redirect does not work! Besides, the "Homatropine methylbromide" drug bank entry resolves also to "Homatropine", they mix it up with "Homatropine methylbromide". This is damned dangerous, they cite the wrong info from Wiki and resolve to the wrong drug and copied the wrong info! (Actually the Homatropine and the Methylhomatropine info mixed, like in the old wiki entry. The wiki.nl in dutch does the same. There is a danger that the two drugs may get mixed up in a pharmacy with this misinformation, and they have a deliriant patient then. Can you take a look? I am unable to debug that, maybe some hidden redirection. Can you help debug that? I wrote the drugbank people a notice, but no answer. 70.137.141.127 (talk) 23:49, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
See here Methylhomatropine, Homatropine methylbromide, and Drugbank APRD01017. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.137.141.127 (talk) 23:54, 13 July 2011 (UTC) Look at the "redirected from", you see it doesn't compute. 70.137.141.127 (talk) 23:57, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
Besides, the drug bank entry is a complete failure, listing Homatropine methylbromide as "Humulon lead salt", which seems to be an intermediate in the purification of "Hops acid". It also list "methylbromide" as a synonym. I will likely better not see a doctor, who uses this as a reference. The Mortician will be a safer pair of hands. I think the Wiki project is dead. Wiki is an insidious mixture of fact, misconceptions, propaganda and plain idiocy. All too often it seems to be written by either 6-year olds with a corresponding level of reading understanding, or by automated extraction of literature with an AI processor, with the typical lapses of AI. 70.137.141.127 (talk) 06:00, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
Dirk, Homatropine is the tertiary base. It has central action. Homatropine methylbromide and Methylhomatropine are synonymous. They are a quaternary ammonium base, have no central action and have different indications from Homatropine. So they are a different drug from "Homatropine". The problem is, that "Homatropine methylbromide" is a redirect to "Methylhomatropine" look at the entry. But this redirect does not work, but it resolves to "Homatropine" erronously instead. Read above again. Help me debug please. Kind regards. 70.137.141.127 (talk) 07:25, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
To make it more clear, the articles "Homatropine" and "Methylhomatropine" I have already done and they are ok. Look at history. However the redirect from "Homatropine methylbromide" to "Methylhomatropine" does not work, instead erroneously redirects to "Homatropine". 70.137.141.127 (talk) 07:29, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
Strange, on my computer it still redirects to "Homatropine", do they have a server hierarchy, where it takes some time to trickle down through the caching hierarchy? So you are positive on your computer it resolves correctly? I am in the US/California. Have you tried out(!) entering "Homatropine methylbromide" in the search bar? This is what does not work. The redirect does look ok, it says "Redirect Methylhomatropine" but it does not resolve correctly, that is the bug. Please enter it in the search bar and see what happens! 70.137.141.127 (talk) 07:42, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
Or simply click on your above link "Homatropine methylbromide" and see how it resolves. 70.137.141.127 (talk) 07:45, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
Homotropine, oh you little rascal. 70.137.141.127 (talk) 07:50, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
ok. I deleted my browser cache (FF. 5) and now it works. Seems as if Wiki does not notify correctly that cached page went stale after edits. Can you convey that to the software guys? Its a bug. 70.137.141.127 (talk) 08:48, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
So the bug is: If you edit and change a redirect, it does not cause the redirect to go stale. The computer does not get notified, that the previous association given by the redirect is not valid any more. So the computer displays the page, which was given previously by the redirect, and "thinks" it is still valid. Imo. real edits to a text page mark the page as "changed" and cause a reload. Edits to a redirect do not do this and this is a bug. 70.137.141.127 (talk) 08:57, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
In this case took two days and did not resolve w.o. deleting browser cache. So my take is it does not mark the redirect page as changed, so the browser doesn't get notified. Has to be analyzed by replicating. IMO 2+ days can't well be queue delay. 70.137.141.127 (talk) 09:58, 14 July 2011 (UTC) 70.137.141.127 (talk) 10:01, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
Can you please do that for me, I am IP editor and can not log in. Yes, looks like that. And no, it is not fixed. 70.137.141.127 (talk) 10:10, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
The problem in the Homatropine example seems to be, after Ichange the redirect of "homatropine methylbromide" from "homatropine" to "methylhomatropine" there is no notification that the cached "homatropine" page became invalid, so in the browser the "homatropine methylbromide" web address still stays associated with the old "homatropine" cache entry, it does not get marked invalid and the browser does not load the new content, which would be the "methylhomatropine" page. This only happens after I manually delete the browser cache and start from scratch. This is for an IP edit and IP viewer. 70.137.141.127 (talk) 10:37, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
If you get a few spare minutes you might want to read Parking Wars and view a few episodes on their website, its a perfect example of what happens to NFCC enforcers. ΔT The only constant 03:32, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
Exactly what I said in the Motion. And now Δ is out of the picture on NFCC .. guess where it will go now.
I know the type of program, it is indeed a very good analogy. --Dirk Beetstra T C 13:51, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
You have just removed a WikiCommons file from this page claiming it is non-free use without proper rationale. Surely you should have checked your facts first? Mzilikazi1939 (talk) 12:57, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
You are invited to take part in a discussion for the deletion of a template(s). Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2011 July 26#July 26#Template: Element compounds Plasmic Physics (talk) 10:43, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
I don't understand the structure of rosocyanine. What I get on paper from the reaction of two curcumins with one boric acid is a covalently bonded structure C42H57BO10 with a single negative charge (formally on the boron), three water molecules, and an H+. Under different conditions it could be a cation other than H+, but I always get a single negative charge on the rosocyanine structure, not a single positive charge on it (with a negative counterion, on this page arbitrarily a chloride). I don't have much online access to the chemical literature; when I get to a technical library I'll look it up, but until then, maybe someone could clarify this for me.HowardJWilk (talk) 21:12, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
Update: I checked the structure in reference G. P. Spicer and J. D. H. Strickland: Compounds of curcumin and boric acid. Part I. The structure of rosocyanine. In: Journal of the Chemical Society (London), p. 4644-4650 (1952). ISSN: 0368-1769, CODEN: JCSOA9. The structure is like the bottom one shown, but there is a negative charge on boron. The counterion is an H+ on one of the quinone oxygens. In addition, there is an H+ on the other quinone oxygen, with a Cl- counterion. So of the various ways to accurately depict the structure, the easiest way is to start with the bottom structure now there, label the B with a negative sign, put an H on each of the quinone oxygens (=OH), label those oxygens with a positive sign, and take away the brackets and the circle-positive sign, now that the positive charges are localized. The chloride could stay where it is, since it's near one of the quinone oxygens which now get a positive sign, or it could be moved closer to that positive sign.
As an alternative, the brackets, circle-positive, and chloride could stay where they are, but the H's have to be added, which is where the positive charge comes from (2H+ and B-, net positive 1 charge).HowardJWilk (talk) 19:41, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
((disputed chem|reason))
which you can put on the image description page. I would in that link to the ref you gave here, and it will likely be fixed soon. As it is now, it indeed seems confusing. --Dirk Beetstra T C 21:34, 26 July 2011 (UTC)Not sure I did this right. Didn't fix drawing but commented on it on article talk page, not on image talk page, as per stop-sign-hand instructions when I was about to do the latter. Note G. S. Spicer, not G. P.; paper I looked at had it spelled rosocyanin (no e).HowardJWilk (talk) 02:30, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
Hi. I was wondering if you would do me a small favor. I wanted to make a minor change in the ((drugbox)) template (see requested change). I am about ready to do some bot test edits to populate newly created fields (see bot request). Before I can start the test, the change in the template needs to be implemented. Thanks. Boghog (talk) 21:20, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
Respected Sir,
Greetings to all contributers to WIKIPEDIA,
I do not know weather it is legitimate to ask some questions regarding some knowhow or for deep knowledge over here?!!.
I have some questions to know regarding following subject: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copolymer and "Covalent bond", "Chemical bond"
If it is here freedom to ask then again I will come here back with my questions and needs.
With best regards,
JBSHUKLA — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jbshukla (talk • contribs) 16:03, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
why should I not use that image? MothBall77 Minnesota USA 13:03 Central Standard Time — Preceding unsigned comment added by MothBall77 (talk • contribs) 18:04, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
Mind dropping by? --Rifleman 82 (talk) 21:04, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
Hey Beetstra what is with this edit? [4] Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 23:08, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
Somewhat stupid, but rather urgent and important question: do we have a bot removing fair-use images from main-space articles? Materialscientist (talk) 06:56, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
importScript("User:Δ/NFCC.js");
" to you Common.js. It gives you some links in a drop-down menu (where you also have delete, move, protect), clicking the 'NFCC ##' will give you a possibility to manually review the edit where it removes the images which it detects to be wrong (which you need to do, there are sometimes things that break, it does remove those which it can't detect but which are correct, the script only suggests a new version, but it is not, and never will be, perfect). The other link gives you a review of the images, and check-buttons where you can select which ones you would like to remove (which then gives you the same possibility to review before you save). It maybe the fastest way of cleaning up some mess. I hope this helps. --Dirk Beetstra T C 07:45, 10 August 2011 (UTC)Can I use that link yet? If not, how long will it take. I only need that specific link to that article, it's important to the wiki article, which just became a good article. I don't see why that site is blacklisted in the first place. Daniel Christensen (talk) 19:19, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
Dirk, I want to create a stub article similar to this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aelita_Software_Corporation
When I try to edit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NetWrix_Corporation it says page was deleted by you. Can you explain why and allow to re-create it?
Thank you! - Chris talk
Hi Dirk,
I am not sure whether this is the most appropriate way to get in contact with you. The company I work for is Netzsch Gerätebau in Germany. We are specialized in material characterization and work in this area since 50 years. We are one of a few companies with in-depth knowledge about Thermal Analysis Methods. From time to time we add content to Wikipedia to enrich the existing pages with basic information as well as with scientific level of information. Today I experienced that a link to our website www.netzsch-thermal-analysis.com/... was blocked (... you are on blacklist ...). I was really surprised as we are never intend to misuse Wikipedia. It took me a while and then I understood why links to the webpages of Netzsch are blocked: Another company (www.thermal-analysis.com) was added by you to the blacklist (together with several other domains of this company).
I am sure that it was not your intention to block our website www.netzsch-thermal-analysis.com.
What is necessary to get us back on Wikipedia as a contributor?
Best regards
Rolf Preuß Netzsch-Gerätebau GmbH 217.66.131.74 (talk) 14:48, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
User talk:Pdfpdf/Archive25: You do not have permission to edit this page, for the following reason: This page has been protected to prevent editing. Pdfpdf (talk) 04:45, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
Ran across this today User talk:UMDSpecColl. Cheers, Valfontis (talk) 16:43, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
Just wanted to let you know that CheMoBot seems to have a little bug that caused it to create ( )-Naloxone in error. -- Ed (Edgar181) 21:29, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
Now that is a funny bug, did you ever notice the difference in effect between:
And
(well, I did, but did not run into this problem before). I added a s/\+/%2B/sig;
befor the edit is performed, that should solve it, I hope. --Dirk Beetstra T C 07:42, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
Just to let you know that these pages were mistakenly created in the mainspace, rather than the Wikipedia space. J Milburn (talk) 23:54, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
Aargh. WHY. It does that every once in a so many thousands of edits. As if it misreads a setting in some way. As far as I can see, the only reason to do this would be when it fails to read its on-wiki settings. I'll write a 'if-I-can't-read-the-settings-I-don't-do-anything'-patch .. Thanks for reporting. Mind to unblock the bot? --Dirk Beetstra T C 06:57, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
I have been running some trial runs of BogBot to add parameters to the ((drugbox)) template. In order to reduce the number of follow-on edits by CheMoBot after a BogBot edit, a suggestion was made that BogBot also add ChemSpiderID_Ref, etc. parameters (see Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/BogBot_2). I am adding KEGG_Drug_ID, ChemSpider_ID, and PubChem_Compound_ID if these fields are not currently populated in a template. My source of data is the DrugBank database. I believe this data is correct, but I have not independently verified the data. I would really prefer that CheMoBot do this since I am not at all familiar with how you are verifying the data nor maintaining the repository of verified values. However since the issue was brought up by Headbomb, I thought I should ask you for your opinion. It would be helpful if you express your preference here. Thanks. Boghog (talk) 11:40, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
dirk, we chatted briefly yesterday about a page i'm putting up named zeina awad. you offered help should i need it, and, well, here i am. :) i'm having problems with another page, sebastian walker. if you would take a look and view the history, i'd really appreciate it. i haven't done anything different with seb's page, yet content is being deleted (because was considered spam and irrelevant) and the page is in jeopardy of being deleted altogether--for lack of citations. the reference link isn't working properly and i'm not sure what to do about it. if you put http://thedianerehmshow.org/shows/2010-12-13/turmoil-haiti/transcript into your browser, the link is fine. the wiki code doesn't work properly. any thoughts?
overall, i love wikipedia and i felt proud to contribute--even tho my contribution was small. i feel that everything i type is scrutinized--and mostly deleted--and i couldn't disagree more with the grounds. i don't even know if its worth my time. discouraged.
anyway, thanks for all of your help. --Happyavocadogirl (talk) 17:25, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
Beddoe, R.; Costanza, R.; Farley, J.; Garza, E.; Kent, J.; Kubiszewski, I.; Martinez, L.; Mccowen, T.; Murphy, K. (2009). "Overcoming systemic roadblocks to sustainability: the evolutionary redesign of worldviews, institutions, and technologies" (Free full text). Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America. 106 (8): 2483–2489. doi:10.1073/pnas.0812570106. ISSN 0027-8424. PMC 2650289. PMID 19240221. ((cite journal))
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Testing only --Dirk Beetstra T C 11:55, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
At User:Hammersoft/tick_file#Overuse I've been keeping a loose track of the overuse of non-free images on articles situation, based on this report [side note]. A lot of good work had happened to make a pretty good dent in that situation from November of last year to June of this year. Now, there's been a serious reversal. Instead of a decrease, there's now a 16% increase over November, 2010.
Much of this can be tracked to currency articles being flooded with non-free images. 16 of the top 25 overusing articles are currency articles, accounting for 70% of the actual uses in the top 25 articles. There's been heavy debate about the coin issue, but no consensus has been created for inclusion. I took a look at the #1 hitter on that report, Euro gold and silver commemorative coins (France): 2007, with 118 images. A sample check revealed that all of the images have a purpose of use of "Currency picture". It's as if currency pictures are a special exclusion to our NFCC policy, and can be used anywhere so long as we state that the purpose of use is "Currency picture".
There was this recent RFC, but it was flawed from the outset. The creator of the RfC did not approach the issue from a neutral stance, and the first two options were heavily biased against removal. Even so, the inclusion proposal (#2) and the exclusion proposal (#3) achieved effectively the same level of support. I.e., no consensus.
I'm proceeding ahead with removals. I started today, removing 118 images from above noted worst offender. We'll see how it goes. If there's mass opposition, I think it's time we write something up for inclusion into WP:NFC that permits a special exclusion to overuse issues for currency lists. --Hammersoft (talk) 13:30, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
Side note: The first entry in that report is a misnomer; the files are actually free license, they just haven't been retagged yet. I disregarded this entry in my summary
I have a question about some CheMoBot follow-up edits after BogBot reformatted a drugbox template. In particular, the following edits would seem to be unnecessary:
Would it be possible to modify the CheMoBot script so that it would not make these type of edits? Cheers. Boghog (talk) 18:28, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
Please see this. Thanks. -- Hoary (talk) 10:46, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
Any thoughts on this SPA, who's created a template for an external site and is now canvassing it? OhNoitsJamie Talk 22:23, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
Hello. Just in case you don't see it any time soon, because I'm sure you're busy. This is what I wrote back to you, to your remarks to me on the report page. Even if I was not perfect, are you gonna say that what Cush did was "civil" and with "appropriate language". And that he did not edit war at all? By going right to the "bright line", and after I said "take it to talk" he instead simply reverts me again, without going to talk at all. And also accusing me of "vandalism"? That was "appropriate". Even if I was not totally perfect in this, I was not the one who reverted good faith and accurate edits simply because of "I don't like", nor did I accuse anyone of "vandalism". I mean, really, was that "civil" or "appropriate" for him to say? Also, I was not reverted over and over again, except by Cush. The other editor the other day let the situation go, after my edit comment. Again, Cush went to the line, and arguably was edit-warring, I told him to take it to talk, he ignored that, but reverted me again. I brought stuff to talk, and I simply utilized the mechanism that Wikipedia provides to resolve disputes and problems. I first went to "incidents". I was told to come here instead. Again, Cush used words like "weirdest transliteration" and "stop vandalizing". That was "civil" and "appropriate language"? You have singled me out here on this why? Cush was anything but civil, cool, or appropriate in language or otherwise. Yet I get this harsh lecture from you, "warning" me, for simply trying to voice my concerns and issues that page, and he gets zero warning. It doesn't seem fair. For his inappropriate unwarranted and POV remarks, and constant revertings in a 24 hour period. I'm wondering why that is. But it would be nice if you could answer those questions. About those specific things he said and did, and how was that totally "civil" on Cush's part. Those were not just rhetorical questions. And I really try hard not to edit war or violate clear WP policy and standards, but I'm always learning. Thank you. Hashem sfarim (talk) 00:53, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
Hi Dirk, you may remember a while ago that a designer drug site was being spammed without links and you therefore added an edit filter to stop it. For some reason it doesn't seem to be working anymore though - Verified72 (talk · contribs) spammed a load of them this morning across many articles. Could you take a look? Thanks SmartSE (talk) 12:22, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
This should be in mediation. There are multiple references placed and removed by an anonymous user continually. I am making sure i have identified and signature.--GramereC 16:25, 25 August 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by GramereC (talk • contribs)
I seem to have lost rollback. Pdfpdf (talk) 13:26, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
Dear Beetstra
I can see that you are not content with the changes I have made as regards to the use of ROCKWOOL. Rockwool is a trademark registered world wide.
Thus, it shall only be used to identify products marketed by the Rockwool Group and not used to describe insulation materials or any other products.
Use of ROCKWOOL to describe insulation material seriously damages our ROCKWOOL trademark, and therefore we kindly ask you only to use ROCKWOOL in the future when referring to products marketed by the Rockwool Group.
I therefore kindly ask you to replace the term ROCKWOOL with the term Stone wool. Also I can see that you have name the picture files e.g. "Rockwool pipe covering wh fire test.jpg". Please change this filename and see to that rockwool gets replaced with the term "stone wool" instead.
Please see to that the changes will be executed within three days.
Rockwool, Legal Department (talk) 11:03, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
Sorry for disturbing, it appears that this user User:Malingsia has used a name that have a meaning of attacking Malaysia. Some Indonesians always call Malaysia with a nickname of 'Malingsia' because they said that Malaysia likes to copied Indonesian's cultures. 'Maling' means 'thief' in Indonesian. Perhaps, this user is Indonesian. Could you help me to block him ?
Thank you. DeshintaChandra (talk) 01:58, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for your nice suggestion, I will report it soon. DeshintaChandra (talk) 16:01, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but I'm kinda confused for the report guidelines. I am new to wikipedia, so I have no idea where can I report the user. Would you mind if you help me to report this user User:Malingsia ? DeshintaChandra (talk) 16:14, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
can you take a look at [6] and if the issue is fixed with your bot, remove the ((nobots))? ΔT The only constant 19:57, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
The Thomas Milton Tinney, Sr. page had added links according to Wikipedia policy and is no longer to be classified as an orphan. I have read all of the instructions and feel there is no relative problems. The Internet is changing and an alphabetical listing satisfies requirements to list references whose content may be placed in a different format on a daily basis. The topic meets the notability requirements, as so defined, and you have constantly deleted references and have personally degraded my site intentionally. The article has been cleaned up and meets Wikipedia's standards. If you see something for structural improvement, then make the minor corrections. Else, you are on a personal vendetta and are acting as a censoring individual. Thomas Milton Tinney, Sr.108.85.168.205 (talk) 13:31, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
hi, i hope you can help can you tell me what p-TSA is, it is mentioned in Physostigmine
thankyou Jasonwithey (talk) 17:10, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
Sent you one. — HelloAnnyong (say whaaat?!) 13:31, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
Please can you tell me what's wrong with the three external links I added, which you undid?
The Top of the Pops Records page has had an external link for ages, and the webiste it links to has moved - so I changed the destination of the link, that's all. Is there a problem with this?
And the other two I added to specific record pages because there was a lack of external links, and they went directly to pages with more info. Again - what is the problem?
Thanks MegdalePlace (talk) 10:23, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
You added "Top of the Pops fan site *Top of the Pops Volume 20", which includes the words 'fan site' .. and sites on weebly.com are not very often 'the official site of the subject'. Fan sites are discouraged by WP:EL, and are generally an exception when they are included. Maybe it is a case to discuss on the talkpage of the respective pages? --Dirk Beetstra T C 10:49, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
Actually, the new website does not even work ... --Dirk Beetstra T C 10:52, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
It's up and running - it's just moved. The correct address is http://topofthepopslps.weebly.com/
You will see it's a mine of information. These records have nothing to do with the TV show by the way. They were issued by a label which is defunct, so no official site - this is the closest there is. They are notable for many reasons including two number 1s on the official British charts, and recordings by Elton John, Tina Charles and other well-known musicians and singers. They are a part of British musical history - nothing to do with broadcasting.
I will try and add in some references on the individual album pages, but for the subject as a whole, this is the only reliable resource, and it's extremely comprehensive.
It's not a fan page! It's a massive database with discography etc, which to my knowledge is unavailable elsewhere and not suitable for Wiki itself. I do understand that "fan pages" are discouraged, but where we are dealing with a defunct record label with no website, we have to rely on 3rd party sources, and of course they need to be evaluated for reliability, style, relevance etc. Out of interest I have checked a similar page - the one for Embassy Records - and it has exactly the same sort of external links, which look like a catalogue made by a collector. It's not been objected to, and is clearly informative. By way of compromise, what I will do is link from the Wiki page to the discography page of the TOTP site - it's a straight listing of all the LPs in the series so far as I can tell - this will at least give some additional resource for readers. External discographies are generally acceptable where they go beyond the scope of Wiki discographies. And I'll start a discussion on it, but I really do think this is going to be a non-issue. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MegdalePlace (talk • contribs) 13:51, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
Welcome
...to this website, a completely unofficial, on-line catalogue paying tribute to Hallmark's TOP OF THE POPS albums.ref
Your bot did something weird here [7] Not too sure what was going on, just stumbled upon it while browsing. 174.94.30.187 (talk) 23:18, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
With regard to your block of Atsme (talk · contribs) - the email addresses he posted are publicly available to all editors at WP:ARBCOM. I'm hoping, in light of this, that you'll reconsider your decision to block him. The Cavalry (Message me) 16:37, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
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The Original Barnstar |
Thank you for helping me better understand how to educate the public on Wikipedia about new products. It was never my intentions to "Self Promote" MinoxiBoost. It will very soon be available all over the world and I was just letting the public be more knowledgeable about it. I notice there and many products and companies on Wikipedia and they all seem to offer their company info and share their products... Just like Rogaine and Propicia on many other hair loss info on your site. Scirillo7 (talk) 10:05, 15 September 2011 (UTC) |
Hi. As you know, removing a link spam from dozens of articles can be a tedious task, especially if the edit is not on top. That's why, I use AWB to remove such links. Could you tweak the bot so it provides an automatic regex syntax for each link report, that can be used in AWB's "find a and replace" function, similar to the log entry of the spam blacklist, the bot currently provides. Thank you. Sole Soul (talk) 11:08, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
.
should be a \.
.. it may make some mistakes without that), you could just built that into a regex: http:\/\/.*?<domain>.*?[\]\s]
(though it must be made a bit better (my linkwatchers use (?:https?|ftp|irc|gopher|telnet|nntp|worldwind):\/\/[^\s\]\[\{\}\\\|^'<>]+
to catch urls. Not completely failsave, but most errors that I notice come not from the imperfect regex, but from editors making mistakes). I hope this helps. --Dirk Beetstra T C 11:17, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
\n^.*example\.com.*\n?
, because the text that should be removed is not only the url, rather, it is also the text before it and after it on the smae line. For example: * [http://www.example.com This is a great site!]. The regex is prone to false positives, so every edit should be checked before saving.\n^.*example\.com.*\n?
and \n^.*example.com.*\n?
would approximately do the same, so you could add \n^.*
before, and .*\n?
after it and you're ready. --Dirk Beetstra T C 11:07, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi,
When I have time I'm looking at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Version_1.0_Editorial_Team/Chemicals_articles_by_quality_log and other pages. I'm adding InChIs and ChemSpider Ids. Once I've modified the Chembox or Drugbox I'm trying to ensure I validate the boxes again by updating the indexes:
Validated chemboxes
Validated drugboxes
I've noticed that many of your logged updates to these indexes seem to be listed as being scripted. Is there anyway that I can use the same mechanism? Or do you have any tips to speed up this validation process?
Thanks, The chemistds (talk) 09:26, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
Dirk, If you are having issues with structures that you can't find (or don't exist) in ChemSpider. This is something that I would be able to sort out for you if you can provide me with a list of articles. --The chemistds (talk) 20:39, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
Why can't I take a holiday?
If you believe this notice was placed in error, please see how to instructions on how to make a splash.
--Hammersoft (talk) 15:17, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
The main problem I was addressing at Template:Chembox verification is the situation was when the infobox has a combination of verified and changed values. That means there are both ticks and crosses, but the logic in the footer only gives the cross, so there is a tick with no explanation in the footer what it means. See for example the current revision of alanine. I couldn't figure out how to get the footer to display specifically and only "whichever symbol(s) are used", so my way at least we get the both when there are a mix. It's probably (my WP:OR) more likely that many articles have mixes and need both symbols rather than having all data with crosses, so this hacked solution probably does the right thing often. DMacks (talk) 12:52, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
Try aporphine. Clicking on "Cas nr" links to cas "common chemicals" db, which does not contain this item. Should instead link to db, which contains the entry for this item.
found here
http://chem.sis.nlm.nih.gov/chemidplus/chemidheavy.jsp
or chemid light will also do 70.137.140.205 (talk) 06:46, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
I have found the same problem with many substances, try forskolin. It seems to be that most, except the really common, substances have the problem of linking to the incomplete database of "common" chemicals. 70.137.157.184 (talk) 09:57, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
I think the CAS full search requires subsciption, for money. Thats the problem. We have to link to something else. I believe this politics of CAS is controversial in the chemical community. 70.137.157.176 (talk) 08:58, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
This is a canadian gov site that allows CAS search.
http://ccinfoweb.ccohs.ca/chemindex/search.html 70.137.157.176 (talk) 09:11, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
Thank you, I see the point. 70.137.157.176 (talk) 10:25, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
Hello.
I believe there is a misunderstanding.
I have recently consolidated my four web sites, and redirected their pages to the new one, wisdomsupreme.com. Accordingly, I edited the existing links to their pages from wikipedia - since they will soon be offline.
I believe you interpreted my doing so as changing the links from somebody else's web site to mine. This is not the case. In fact, there are already redirect scripts from the old sites to the new. Check, for example, Reference #5 here, and you will see what I mean: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socioeconomic_status#References
In sum, my recent changes would keep wikipedia from having scores of dead links in a near future. This is a positive move, and please do not punish me for it.
Regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wireintheblood (talk • contribs) 19:51, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
CheMoBot is making edits to Template:Drugbox/doc that it probably shouldn't be making. I tried adding ((bots|deny=CheMoBot)) to the page, but that didn't help. Can you please have a look? Thanks. -- Ed (Edgar181) 13:43, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
Sorry to bother you, but can you block 180.247.3.61 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)? This address is being used by the notorious Indonesian misinformation vandal who vandalizes articles related to Digimon, NBC, Disney, and the like and never heeds to warnings given to him. He's active right now. Please respond ASAP. - 上村七美 (Nanami-chan) | talkback | contribs 15:19, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
Hi Dirk,
We are www.xairforces.net web site editors. We are think that an error about xairforces.net and xairforces.com
Why have already added our site from the blacklist. xairforces.net is military aviation Information on your web site. xairforces is supported by many people. We don't now about this spam. We would like our web site's removal of land from the list. What should we do. You can help us in this web site: www.xairforces.net Other e-mail address is info@xairforces.net.
Best regards --xairforces.netxairforces 30 October 2011
I am NORTHFORTMYERS. I wrote and article and made a link to a video shot by an indepentdant company that may be in violation. But the entry 'world's largest trailer park' is still true, I am one of the many Pastors of the many churches there. Can you remove the link if it does offend aqnd lock the page from editing but by me? It is a poor and destitute area and has many detractors, like Compton, or Harlem. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NorthFortMyers (talk • contribs) 17:31, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
Apparently, Δ should not be performing maintenance tasks. He can only write articles now. See User_talk:Hammersoft#Beta.27s_restrictions. Of course, if he starts 25 articles from scratch that would probably be construed as a pattern. --Hammersoft (talk) 16:28, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
Here. Cheers. Materialscientist (talk) 10:31, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
Hi Dirk. Of possible interest, WP:ANI#Google_blacklisted. -- zzuuzz (talk) 18:14, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
I see you removed the zero emissions platform link I added to the site. I feel this is a very important website for those looking for information on the projects undergone in the EU by the EU. Can you explain why you removed this link? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gefd100 (talk • contribs) 07:48, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
I understand we are creating an encyclopedia here. I would like to add the following link to this page: Carbon Capture
http://www.zeroemissionsplatform.eu/policy-and-regulation.html EU Policies and regulations on CCS
I feel that this is of benefit to readers as there is a general attitude that CCS is not supported by the EU. It outlines the developments of CCS in each country around the world in the past 6 months and also the EU funding and directives for CCS in Europe. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gefd100 (talk • contribs) 08:01, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
Just as an aside, and not meant to hijack this particular thread, but I saw the thread title and thought "That's perfect! That's what everyone is expecting Δ to be!". Sorry :) --Hammersoft (talk) 13:54, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
(-: --Dirk Beetstra T C 13:54, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia talk:Edit filter#354 Promotional text added by user to own user(-talk) page - Why private. Thanks, Chzz ► 10:30, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
The discussion at Meta seems to have been archived. Is there any chance of getting the 69 other domains and additional URL patterns added to the global blacklist? Anomie⚔ 18:56, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
Quite a lot of these are exceeding the limit for transcluded templates. For example: Wikipedia:WikiProject Spam/LinkReports/codemasters.com. Not sure what the easiest way to fix this, but I thought you might have some idea, being knowledgeable on the subject. Rich Farmbrough, 20:13, 1 November 2011 (UTC).
User:Δ/Example is the main page for what you asked for. ΔT The only constant 22:32, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
Hi Beestra,
You weighed in a bit on this proposal to archive shared IP talk pages at VPR – I've since updated the specs a bit, and I'm working with Petrb to design a bot that would help us (some first-pass bot operating instructions here). If we get consensus on the proposal, we'd take the bot through WP:BRFA.
If you have a minute, mind weighing in again on the VPR discussion? :) Thanks! Maryana (WMF) (talk) 21:50, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
Hey Beetstra, I talked to Versageek about XLinkBot, and he suggested that we chat with you about it. We've got a taskforce up at WP:UWTEST. The general idea is doing randomized tests of different talk page templates to try and get a better response out of people being warned (I can go into more detail about that if you like). We've been running tests with Huggle, and just started a test with SDPatrolBot. To cut to the chase: XLinkBot is really important in terms of the amount of talk page messages it leaves – my understanding is that it's only behind ClueBot. If you'd be open to letting us test, let me know and we can talk about it. Steven Walling (WMF) • talk 23:57, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
firstrevertremark
in the settings), which does not mention the word spam. The second time the bot arrives at a page it will, at the least, start off with a 'level 1' warning, set by firstwarning
(followed by secondwarning, thirdwarning, etc.). After Forget
it restarts at iprestartlevel
for IPs and userrestartlevel
for logged in users.You seem to be a chemistry expert sorry I dont know how to use wikipedia well, but I do not think BeO is in a triplet state maybe the page should change? -"big_scary_shark" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Big scary shark (talk • contribs) 23:03, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
Please look up this page. The references in this page are not in the correct format. Please verify the authenticity of the source and cite the references in correct format. Thank you. Netha Hussain (talk) 18:35, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
I have a user that just won't listen to what I said to Toshio Yamaguchi. Sottolacqua keeps blabbing on removing things and trying to get me blocked for what I did with Dancing with the Stars (U.S. season 12). Look at Dancing with the Stars (U.S. season 10), Dancing with the Stars (U.S. season 11), and Dancing with the Stars (U.S. season 13). Sottolacqua made Dancing with the Stars (U.S. season 12) heavily biased, and not the same. Sottolacqua also cleared a warning I wrote. to I want Sottolacqua gone and to never come back. --Plankton5165 (talk) 02:02, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
A month ago I poked COIbot to generate a report on cdbaby.com. I'm in the granted usergroup (sysop), but nothing happened. Is the bot down? ~Amatulić (talk) 19:06, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
and
Seems to work nicely. There are 44 reports waiting in the queue .. it may take a bit. --Dirk Beetstra T C 20:18, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
No, the bot is up for 73 days, 11 hours, 2 minutes and 21 seconds already. Problem is sometimes that COIBot gets accidentally disconnected from irc.wikimedia.org.
If you're on on IRC (freenode), find me and/or COIBot - there it is easier to check what is going on if you're waiting. --Dirk Beetstra T C 21:13, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
Wow .. I am impressed! Keep up the good work! --Dirk Beetstra T C 21:43, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
Can you please take a look at cefditoren and see if the identifiers look correct/consistent to you now? I made a few changes, but there still some data that needs to be updated though. Thanks, Ed. -- Ed (Edgar181) 20:10, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
I did have a revelation in our conversation on the arbcom page yesterday, but now I don't see any purpose in extending that thread. The difference in perspective seems to be this: you explained that you look at Δ's edits and attribute them to mistakes. But I cannot do that because, personally, as I find it much more offensive to suggest he is incompetent than to suggest that he is intentionally performing the edits. So I look at the edits with the initial assumption that everything he does is completely intentional, unless he says otherwise. I make the same assumption about every editor, and I would feel patronizing and insulting if I assumed otherwise. This seems to be a significant difference in our perspectives; maybe this note will help you understand my position. — Carl (CBM · talk) 13:16, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
@Dirk Beetstra: This conversation cannot continue with Δ as a party. If you are interested, we can continue it by email. If not, we can leave it here. Thanks again, because I do feel like I made progress in understanding some things. — Carl (CBM · talk) 00:11, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
Carl, I would like to continue the discussion, and somehow I think it is better that this is on-wiki so maybe we can get somewhere and others can also think about this. I must say, my personal situation is going to change drastically in the near future (keep an eye on my userpage) - I may not be all too responsive in the near future, and maybe for a long time. Fort his weekend it will be for sure not too much, I am going on a short trip. --Dirk Beetstra T C 06:41, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
Cheers! We'll discuss next week (I hope). By the way, if you feel the need to email, that is fine as well, guess we should find an optimum in the mix. --Dirk Beetstra T C 13:38, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
Still, Carl, I don't feel that you have responded to any of the questions that I have asked here. Especially the point where you suggests that admitting that someone accidentally violates an edit restriction is a sign of incompetence, and hence considering that that is what happened is an assumption of bad faith. --Dirk Beetstra T C 12:51, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
Does XLinkBot ever skip to the level 1 instead of passing through level zero? Steven Walling (WMF) • talk 01:39, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
It looks a bot bizarre to see you editing a number of articles twice in a row to get no change in the end. [10][11][12]. I would understand it if you only noticed the problem after a few edits, and then had to revert them all, but you reverted some, then edited some more, then reverted some more... Fram (talk) 15:31, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
&diff=((REVISIONID))
or a link to Special:ComparePages instead of &diff=cur
if you want a diff link against the current version. Anomie⚔ 16:48, 15 November 2011 (UTC)I have adapted the code. Thanks Anomie for the idea! I hope this does not give too much confusion for readers, but we will see. --Dirk Beetstra T C 13:52, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
Armbrust Talk to me about my editsreview 15:17, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
Hey Beetstra, hope you're doing well. Just a heads up that we started a test with XLinkBot. The 1-4 levels will randomly assign either the default or the new one we wrote, and we tinkered with the level 0 text too in order to match our writing style for the next levels. If anything seems weird, broken, or what have you, feel free to revert me and drop me a talk page note. Thanks again for participating in these experiments. I watchlisted the XLinkBot talk page too. Steven Walling (WMF) • talk 05:22, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
on blackisting here. Although I've put it up for discussion, by my mass reverts you might guess my attitude to that site. Cheers. Materialscientist (talk) 04:11, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
[13] resulted in [14] with a somewhat invalid '''. Fairly trivial, but possibly fairly easy to fix? Chzz ► 15:16, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
Hi Beetstra,
Just giving you a heads-up about the latest update on our template testing. Please peruse when you have a minute. Thanks! Maryana (WMF) (talk) 05:19, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
Hi Beetstra, Really love what you've set up, the tables are very helpful! I happened to find this publication where they list pharmacokinetic properties on 670 drugs. http://dmd.aspetjournals.org/content/36/7/1385.full.pdf+html Would there be a way to insert all of them automatically?
A further development would be if you somehow could have a reference for the values which are listed. Maybe PubmedID or something Could that be an idea?
Best Greetings ./Claus — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.243.199.58 (talk) 10:05, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
with CAS identifiers, human IV PK parameters and bibliographic references:
http://dmd.aspetjournals.org/content/suppl/2008/04/21/dmd.108.020479.DC1/DMD20479_Trend_analysis.xls
As I imagine you have a file or DB with the ChemBox data, then it should be possible to enrich it with this dataset. Regarding adding the references, then I'd be willing to volunteer to insert the PubMedID in the excel file in question and forwarding it to you if this will be added (somehow?) to the PK data.
Regarding how to add the bibliographic references to PK data, then it might be too crowded to add it in the ChemBox, but make it visible when you click on the value or ... Maybe the simplest way to do this would be to make the data listing used by ChemBox available and include it as a column there?
Very best greetings and keep up the fantastic work! ./Claus — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.243.199.58 (talk) 14:29, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
Hi Dirk, this is Derek (Dtate888). A little over a month ago, I posted a blacklist proposal to remove Unicoi.com. Do you have some advice as to how I should proceed from here? I know that you had at one time recommended gathering input from other users about the article, but I'm not sure how to best go about that. Not to mention I imagine you could (if you are willing) give me good advice since you are an admin and an avid user. Dtate888 (talk) 18:54, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
Hi Beetstra, I am User:Q2stirofechoes. Am newbie to editing and noticed that the Wiki page "Methamphetamine" contains an outdated photo of the prescription medication, 10mg desoxyn (Abbot labs?) The most recent info I have is that the prescription med is only available as a 5mg tablet (Ovation Pharmeceuticals purchased the rights from Abbot?) Also that a generic form of the med is once again available. Updating the article is beyond my editing skills at the moment, although I hope to learn how to research what is needed for article revisions. This is my first time posting so I am not even sure I am in the correct place (at least I have learned what a tilde is lol) Q2stirofechoes (talk) 08:13, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
Hi Dirk, could you please program the DrugBox to accept 2 ChEMBL IDs so that I can add parents and salts? The ChemBox works like this already and it's excellent. Thanks in advance, Louisa Louisajb (talk) 11:57, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
Template:Chembox subst explosive has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Bulwersator (talk) 14:46, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
Hi Beetstra,
We're currently busy designing some new tests, and we need your feedback/input!
We also have a proposal to test new "accepted," "declined," and "on-hold" templates at Articles for Creation (drafts here). The discussion isn't closed yet, so please weigh in if you're interested.
Thanks for your help! Maryana (WMF) (talk) 02:07, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
Hey Beetstra, just a heads up that Maryana and I planned on ending the XLinkBot template test in a day or two, since it was started on the 17th of last month. I just wanted to double check: is this a revision you wanted to keep regardless of the template contents? Hope you're well, Steven Walling (WMF) • talk 19:55, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
Hi again Beetstra, I posted previously about a 670 drug database with human PK data. Probably I inserted it wrong, sorry about that.
Where you replied that it was a problem to read in the CAS identifiers, since you use InChi. I managed to convert the list to InChi. I can forward it to you... BUT how? Wouldnt wanna litter your talk page.
Just for completeness sake the list is found here http://dmd.aspetjournals.org/content/suppl/2008/04/21/dmd.108.020479.DC1/DMD20479_Trend_analysis.xls
Warm greetings ./Claus — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.118.41.138 (talk) 15:47, 17 December 2011 (UTC)
Hi Dirk. I hope you are enjoying the holidays. When you get the chance, would you mind taking a look at psilocybin and see why CheMoBot is not verifying the CAS number even though I listed it at User:Edgar181/non-commonchemistry-sourced CASNo. User:Sasata is trying to get the article to FAC and is taking a close look at everything there. Thank you. -- Ed (Edgar181) 02:37, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
Hi there We we blacklisted. We try to add an external link to A History of Surfing in Piha www.pihasurfschool.com/about-piha.html to wiki page about Piha. We live in Piha and we are surfers. Can you please allow our link? It not a commercial page. Regards, Phil. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.236.243.225 (talk) 10:06, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
I answered there, IMHO, the link does not belong there per WP:NOT#REPOSITORY and WP:NOT#DIRECTORY and the intro of WP:EL. --Dirk Beetstra T C 17:33, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
Dear Mr Beestra,
I am the social media editor for the Publications Office. We understand that Facebook has generated pages from Wikipedia called 'Publications Office of the European Union' and 'Publications Office'.
Our first concern is that we have created a page on Facebook 'EU Law and Publications'in which we feed our latest news. But we think that people are being confused with the automatically generated pages. I would therefore like to redirect people to our bona fide Facebook page. This is why I have tried to change the pages.
Can you help me please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.169.9.14 (talk) 11:30, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
See User:Itub/Chembox property count. Sorry it took so long to reply! --Itub (talk) 21:58, 13 January 2012 (UTC)
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You did the migration of COIBot, and as you must be beer free, please have this very expensive award and the beer will have to be taken on notice. — billinghurst sDrewth 03:40, 17 January 2012 (UTC) |
Hi Dirk. I've left a comment at Wikipedia:WikiProject Spam/Local/apps.gov.bc.ca. I was asked to look into it by new user User:Msruzicka, who was concerned that he was in trouble. I had actually told him to add BCGNIS info to some of his many BC geo stubs to flesh them out, some I'm partially responsible. I haven't worked with one of these reports before, so maybe my comment is improperly placed. If you have time, maybe you could give it a look. Thanks, The Interior (Talk) 06:00, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
(ec) Thanks, The Interior and billinghurst. I will expand a bit on this.
Indeed, the bot is doing its job monitoring. The location of these reports is with the WikiProject Spam, as they are the main ones monitoring these reports. The name of the project (and the WikiMedia feature 'MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist') is a bit misleading. Quite a bit of the material handled by the project and quite a number of the entries on that list are not 'spam' even under a wide definition of that term.
We run a number of programs which monitor all link-additions by all editors to Wikipedia (actually, 772 wikimedia projects), with as a main goal to catch spam or other inappropriate stuff. All those link additions are stored in a big database. Now, real spam (on Wikipedia widely defined as 'links added for promotion', which includes what the general public thinks of as spam, like porn, viagra etc., but it actually also includes regular companies optimizing their search results (Search Engine Optimization, SEO), public organisations who want to make their (generally good) cause known to the public to raise more money and politicians wanting to increase people finding their pages so they would gain more votes) generally has as a common feature that they are 'new links added by a new user' (those links are never used before, so they do not appear in the database, and those editors often did not edit before). So if we find a new user focusing on one link then that is reason for concern. The bot notifies the Wikipedia editors by automatically creating a linkreport. (the catching system is stronger than that, but I will of course not disclose all the exact features per WP:BEANS)
A good percentage of those links are added in good faith (although that does not make it right all the time) and can be ignored (or in some cases, just reverted and then ignored), the rest is real spam and further action can be taken then. As billinghurst already noticed, these links are good, and in a way, we just ignore the link additions. I reporting persists, I would suggest to whitelist it hard (which needs to be done off wiki) or at least set the status of the report to 'ignore'. Note that the reports are not indexed by search engines (that follow that directive, the major ones do), they can not be found on internet, you have to specifically go to Wikipedia to find them.
I hope this explains. --Dirk Beetstra T C 07:17, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
Hi WP:UWTEST member, we wanted to share a quick update on the status of the project. Here's the skinny:
Thanks for your interest, and don't hesitate to drop by the talk page if you have a suggestion or question. Maryana (WMF) (talk) 19:23, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
I took the first 12 cases that were not shown as "spam" from the above mentioned spreadsheet, and checked the edits, with these results:
There is nothing in the above results to suggest that changing XLinkBot would be helpful. It is good that the WMF wants to encourage editing, but there appears to be a belief that the community has an inexhaustible supply of good editors who are available and willing to dedicate an hour to explaining the purpose of Wikipedia to new arrivals. Judging from the above, the bot has saved a great deal of time and trouble. If there is a problem, one approach may be to encourage a group of editors to follow the bot's work, and to revert the bot (and remove its warnings) where appropriate, and to manually engage with the new editor. Johnuniq (talk) 03:19, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
I see you make the crude separation between youtube/facebook/myspace/twitter etc. and 'spam'. There are a couple of major concerns there which one needs to take into account.
I think that the bot explains now properly that if the edit contained more than only an offending link, that the editor should undo with the consideration to remove the external link before saving the page again. Also that was something that was not said in the test-warnings, and editors may therefore have been more inclined to revert the whole edit without consideration ...
I'll answer later more, when I have more time. --Dirk Beetstra T C 04:17, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
Just to expand on the point by Johnuniq regarding separating 'spam' from 'youtube/blogs/etc', and in reply to Maryana (WMF):
Do take care. You say 'the majority (79 out of 100) were not spammers – they were simply linking to YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, or Wordpress' .. two of these sites here now were clearly spammed (both reported by XLinkBot to be blocked for spamming, both blocked as a result of that). --Dirk Beetstra T C 19:22, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
I agree, Maryana, Wikipedia there has a problem, retaining editors, gaining new editors. Notifying people appropriately and properly is there necessary. That does not necessarily lie in a short message without flooding them with policies and guidelines, it lies in bringing a nice and friendly message notifying the people appropriately of the point you want to get through. A too short a message, however friendly, does not get the message through, and people will react more with 'go away bot, I think my link is good', they revert, and don't get to know why some parts are a problem.
I understand that you meant, but the qualification that editors who add twitters, youtubes and the like are mainly doing that not for gaining revenue but because of ignorance of the rules is too short. The obscure website owners are indeed the ones who do it for revenue (not necessarily obscure websites, we've had large organisations of continental or global importance spamming Wikipedia for revenue), but a significant part of the twitters, youtubes and myspaces are not added because of ignorance, they are added solely for promotion.
And that is where we hit the problem, I think. Many people regard spam as a form of vandalism, the editor adding the inappropriate links for any form of promotional effort is just an editor who is ignorant of Wikipedia's rules. Sure, some of the editors who add a large number of inappropriate links do it with the idea that they think they are helping Wikipedia, but the true spammers are not here for that reason. And that separates spammers from the good faith editor who is ignorant of our rules. Most of the editors out of the second group only find one, very maybe two, warnings by XLinkBot. That initial message there is aimed at being friendly, and gaining understanding. Only very rarely I encounter good faith editors who get to a ((uw-spam4)) (I recall out of the last year two cases, one genuine editor whose editing was a bit clumsy and who managed to get to WP:AIV (I think they first tried facebook, that was rejected, so they left out facebook and tried myspace .. was rejected as well, then moving on for some edits and adding the facebook again .. rejected), the other editor ran into a block for WP:POINT-violations (user logged out to show that IP editors can do good stuff, got blocked after XLinkBot reported them to AIV, unblocked, and then investigated resulting in a block for intentional disruption of the system).
The small group of good faith editors who add a large number of links with which they think they improve Wikipedia generally get the message after being talked to. Those links in the beginning do not end up on XLinkBot, but such editors are being talked to by regulars first. Most of them understand, only every now and then someone panics and needs more significant pushes in the right direction (sometimes they do end up on XLinkBot, especially if they have a wider range of IPS, or if they, in their panic, start socking - it makes clean up and tracking easier, and quick remarks may at a certain point result in them getting the point that we are trying to communicate with them).
But that first group, the true spammers, are, as I said, not here to improve Wikipedia. They are here to improve their own financial situation, or that of a cause they represent, or the financial situation of a company they represent (and there are even 'far fetched' scenarios which nonetheless are happening as well - webmasters who add links to Wikipedia to get more incoming customers to show the resulting web-traffic to their supervisors so they can have a raise, or have better web servers). Do not mistake them for misled regular editors - they are here to make money, they are here to use the free webspace of Wikipedia to improve their situation. They will not stop unless hard forced methods are placed (that starts with XLinkBot, which a lot of spammers simply disregard, but it does have an effect, some do go into discussion and/or stop). The majority of real spammers do everything to stay under the radar. They create numerous socks, they use redirect sites. The only way to stop these are the hard measures of the Spam blacklists and blocking editors. They do not care about your friendly messages (only a strong warning that their site(s) may end up blacklisted may make them consider to back off), they will not be converted. When they can, physically, not spam Wikipedia anymore because their links are blacklisted, the only edits they may do is complain, or try to circumvent the blacklisting. They will not turn into valuable editors - most will simply disappear (but they keep an eye on it .. I have seen cases where spammers got their links blacklisted, and months, years later the links get de-blacklisted and the spammer returns very soon after, it pays to have your links here - the same as schoolkid-vandalism, you see vandalism restart hours or days after the block expires).
Now, the point is going to be, that we need to keep the valuable editors, be friendly enough to them to keep them, and to educate them why certain links are a problem. I strongly believe that XLinkBot has there a task in educating them what may be the problem and asking them to take care next time. Just saying 'I reverted your link, bye' is not enough, there education is a necessity, and also telling them what they can do next. That message may be long (risking tl;dr), but not trying to make them understand the rules is certainly less effective. If they revert the bot not knowing what the problem is, they may (and probably will) be re-reverted by a human editor who will, at the least, ask them why they did not consider the first message, the answer may be 'the first message did not tell me what I did wrong'. It is like a traffic cop who sees a first time offender driving 120 where 80 is allowed, stopping the driver and saying 'I warn you, bye', getting back on his motor bike and driving on, leaving the driver to think 'what did I do wrong' ... In stead, most traffic cops will get off from their motor bike, not even intending to write a fine but with the intention of giving a strong warning, immediately pointing the driver to what they did wrong, and explaining the consequences if it happens again. And I think only very few drivers will get out, throw the keys into the grass and walk home, never to drive again (and they even don't do that when that cop is in a bad mood and does write the fine on the first time).
Currently, our message is aimed at being friendly and giving education, but also at being firm. It is very difficult to guess how many editors walk away after the first remark, but I think that shifting the message (any message) is just going to shift the group. If you give a full explanation, editors will leave because they get reverted and don't want to read it all, if you give a very short message editors will leave because they get reverted and don't get told why. In the end, it is the same percentage that walks away.
Maybe we should have a look at the genuine logged-in new editors, see how many keep editing (IP editors may return as another IP, so it is difficult to get a proper number out of that). Of the editors that are still active (also those behind static IPs), you could ask how they perceived the message that the bot left them - whether they understood it, how they found the tone, etc. etc.
Hope to hear more. --Dirk Beetstra T C 11:59, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
Oh, I believe the statistics and the result. The problem is, that I see also the other side of the medal. I do think that our goal should not be only to retain more editors, or only to win more new souls. Sure, every gained editor is one, but that not at the cost of things at the other side. Spammers ánd inappropriate link additions are a real frustration to many, and I'm not sure that we should be happy with retaining one or even 10 editors more, where then more long-term editors start to burn out because of all the work. And that is something that your A/B testing does not measure here. I see the collegue spam-fighters around me, and some take extensive wikibreaks after a fight with the community, or with individuals. And manpower is already thin in this field. The current situation is not good, but changing something here because the statistics say it is an improvement here .. may result in chaos somewhere else. I am very aware of the limits of statistics, it is just what you measure. And if we have a 5% increase in retained editors ánd a 10% increase in re-inserted inappropriate external links, and more downtime of editors cleaning them up because of more work, frustration and burn-outs, and more editors not staying because of all the spam and other rubbish everywhere .. that is not worth it.
I am also not saying that the current message is optimal. I do realize it is long, and people don't read long messages. I would be all for shortening it, or doing something else smart to it. Putting the long message there results in people not reading it (e.g 'I removed the information you added in your edit to the page 'blahdiblah' because in your edit you included an url which points to a document on an site outside of en.wikipedia.org. The movie you are pointing to is an illegal copy of a video clip of the artist blahdiblah, and linking to material which is in violation of the copyright of the original creator of the work is a criminal offense in many countries. Moreover, the url to the movie is inappropriate because you are adding it to page 'blahdiblah', while the videoclip is actually of the clip 'halbidhalb', a performance of 'blahdiblah'. It does not lie in Wikipedia's goal to link to all the videoclips that 'blahdiblah' have produced ...' - tl;dr, after 'I removed the information you added' you stop reading and you re-add the link), putting a short message ('reverted addition of inappropriate external link to copyvio') means that people may not understand why ('reverted', what do you mean? 'inappropriate', who are you to say that? what is an 'external link'? what do you mean with 'copyvio'? - and asking is even more effort than reading a long message, and you have to wait for an answer, so just revert, I mean, copyvio, so what!), and a short message with a link to the full story ('reverted addition of inappropriate external link to copyvio') .. well, editors simply don't follow the link and hence still don't understand, because WP:EL and WP:COPYVIO are too long and it is too difficult to find what part we now actually mean.
Two points of the three are measurable through the A/B test results you have - percentage of retained editors ánd percentage of re-added external links (and you could also measure how many are actually inappropriate external links that are re-added). The third one will be a collateral effect of the latter of the two measured values (with a negligibly small compensation effect of the former) and not measurable through these statistics, but if the percentage of re-added external links is significant, that will also be significant. And over all Wikis (of which en.wikipedia is by far the biggest) we are operating under an addition speed of 1 external link every second - sure, a lot of those are good, but a lot of that still needs to be checked.
Take care measuring retained editors. My experience is that spammers tend to be 'retained editors' until they either get blocked (upon which many sock so they are still a retained editor), or their links get blacklisted. --Dirk Beetstra T C 20:06, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
About editor retention, see the diffs in time for the page m:User:COIBot/case/case7 .. some editors you don't want to stay. --05:51, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
Hi there, I added a link on the Panthera Hybrids Wikipedia page to an article on the blog of a leading expert on the subject of unusual cat forms after realising from reading this article that the term 'dogla' was being used incorrectly on the Panthera Hybrids Wikipedia page. But you have now removed the link because you say that I had created a Linkfarm. Having read the definition of this, I don't understand why you have done this as his article and blog do not seem to be a Linkfarm. Could you explain your decision so as I can better understand? Thanks very much. 92.13.21.31 (talk) 04:02, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for your answer, and I certainly take your point about not wanting too many links on the page entry (though it does say at the top of that page that citations are required for it). However, the two links already present are both to the same, fairly old site that perpetuates the misleading definition of the term dogla, whereas the link to the much more recent blog article (written by a recognised, published authority on the subject of unusual cats) that I added specifically exposes this error of definition and explains why it is an error and misleading. That's why I added the link, and why I feel it should stay, otherwise wikipedia readers of the Panthera hybrids page entry will have no idea of the source for this explanation of the correct definition of dogla and also leoger. I shan't try to re-add the link, and in any case i'm new to adding things to wikipedia anyway, but I respectfully suggest that the link should be re-added, for the reasons given here. Thanks.92.13.21.31 (talk) 19:39, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
Hi Beetstra, The Chembox info is excellent, could PDB info be added to it? ie a link to macromolecular structures which contain a particular molecule. Just a link to the Compound browser would be needed, Choline or biotin to be continuously up to date with the PDB archive. I have a mapping between Inchi and the PDB three letter ligand code which would aid doing it automatically.
Thanks A2-33 A2-33 (talk) 09:22, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
Hi, please could you re-check your edit on Aluminium isopropoxide? It is listed on WP:CHECKWIKI, can't solve it by myself - I'm not a chemist. Thanks. --Ben Ben (talk) 14:44, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
I manually added an item to WP:WikiProject Spam/CommissionBreakthrough Spam (diff). Do you want people doing that? (If not, please revert.) There's so much of this junk and your system seems to be coping very well, so I'm not sure if new instances should be reported somewhere. In the case that I added, the user does not yet know how to add an external link, so the spam link appears to have never been successfully added. Johnuniq (talk) 06:43, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
In your notes for blocking this IP/user, you noted the website rankmaniac-2012.caltech.edu. I'm not particularly fond of people abusing Caltech's network; was that the direct site they were spamming, or were they spamming some other site related to the "competition?" If the former, a simple traceroute gives me the owner of the site, and I'm inclined to complain to Dr. Wierman, who is teaching CS 144, which rankmaniac is a part of (sadly, that took far more searching than it should have, and that link is probably one of the only legitimate links using that term anywhere...).--Constantine (talk) 01:52, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
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FYI - I just cleaned up the article on Thomas Milton Tinney, Sr. per the tags you previously added. (See also [15].) I'd appreciate it if you'd have a look. After deleting all the cruft, it appears to me that this fellow is downright unnotable, despite the fact that he's listed in several Who's Whos (perhaps they were the pay-to-play variety), so I added a BLP deletion tag. I'd appreciate it if you'd follow the article as I don't edit here very often. Thanks! 75.6.11.19 (talk) 16:07, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
Dear Beetstra,
My name is Jonathan Obar user:Jaobar, I'm a professor in the College of Communication Arts and Sciences at Michigan State University and a Teaching Fellow with the Wikimedia Foundation's Education Program. This semester I've been running a little experiment at MSU, a class where we teach students about becoming Wikipedia administrators. Not a lot is known about your community, and our students (who are fascinated by wiki-culture by the way!) want to learn how you do what you do, and why you do it. A while back I proposed this idea (the class) to the community HERE, were it was met mainly with positive feedback. Anyhow, I'd like my students to speak with a few administrators to get a sense of admin experiences, training, motivations, likes, dislikes, etc. We were wondering if you'd be interested in speaking with one of our students.
So a few things about the interviews:
Bottom line is that we really need your help, and would really appreciate the opportunity to speak with you. If interested, please send me an email at obar@msu.edu (to maintain anonymity) and I will add your name to my offline contact list. If you feel comfortable doing so, you can post your name HERE instead.
If you have questions or concerns at any time, feel free to email me at obar@msu.edu. I will be more than happy to speak with you.
Thanks in advance for your help. We have a lot to learn from you.
Sincerely,
Jonathan Obar --Jaobar (talk) 15:47, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
Dear Mr.Dirk Beetstra,
I am a web team member of St. Peter's college, Colombo 04. As per orders from the administration, i have been requested to continuously update this article from this year onwards.
Being a Web Team member, it is my duty to update information on various clubs and societies, and also all the activities carried out by those respective bodies. Since there have been many changes in their organizational structures and since some clubs have combined together, i have had to edit the article respectively.
Please be kind enough to allow my editing as it is being done with due permission.
You may reach me at <redacted, email removed>— Preceding unsigned comment added by teen95 (talk • contribs)
I confirm that I have requested an account on the UTRS tool. Dirk Beetstra T C
I am in the process of rewriting the article so please can you let my finish and then change it. Mark999 (talk) 11:26, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
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Hi Dirk,
Am currently aiming at extending the Latvian (mainly nature) articles in French wiki, just started on Parc national de la Gauga in French wiki. Found a beautiful 360° panorama of it in Gauja National Park en.Wiki.org ( titled 'Tourist trail in Gauja National Park' in section 'External links'). Can't put the 360cities link here, it's blocked). Looks like the block was addes by COIBot, yr bb. Had a quick check on the net, don't see any major pbms wth that site. I opened it a few days ago, have had no infection, spam nor any such thing despite my computer using only basic protections. That site looks safe enough to me. Why is it blocked in frnch, what's wrong with that site, & how to unblock it if poss ?
Another weird thing is, your talk page somewhere else (there : http://en.wikipedia.7val.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Beetstra&action=edit§ion=new) says my IP is blocked - apparently by some 'zzuuzz' dude (??? Page mentioning the block). Signalling it despite being able to reach you here, as I don't know if there isn't any link between the 2 events. Thanks for answer. Fran90.8.241.153 (talk) 12:08, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
The problem is not that the information is not there - the problem is you don't understand the information that is provided. Glos in an abbreviation for Gloucestershire and that is known throughout the UK, so why would someone write Gloucestershire when they are limited on how many characters they can type?
ITV regional reporters give their Twitter IDs every time they appear on TV and ITV use the Twitter feeds as a cheap way of providing updates due to regular technical problems with their regional websites. It is easy to identify the official feeds with reliable information this way. The only alternative to Twitter for sourcing such information is LinkedIn.
89.248.29.41 (talk) 13:06, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
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On that basis 99% of the content of the 'Granada Reports' article needs to be removed immediately because only place most of the content can be verified is via a link updated by ITV or a journalist employed by ITV. I trust you will be doing that immediately, since you care so much about the issue. Why can't you follow Wikipedia guidelines and add [citation needed] tags where something needs a better reference? 89.248.29.41 (talk) 17:30, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
Not sure what you meant by the "Wow, that is quite cryptic again" jab on ANI, but if I am not being clear, please let me know. Don't give snarky comments, let me know what I am not being clear about. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 18:49, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
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I have seen that you have reverted on the article Far-left politics without giving an explanation in the edit summary or participating in the discussion on the talk page. I am sure that you understand that this topic is quite touchy and I want to inform you that there has an edit war been going on. I don't think that reverting without contributing to the discussion is the right thing in this situation. It could fuel the edit war and does absolutely not lead to a solution of the disagreement. --RJFF (talk) 19:33, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
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Hi Dirk! Could you review this edit of yours to Ergoloid? Your additions seem to refer to dihydroergotamine mesilate, while ergoloid mesylates are a combination with three other (closely related) substances. Cheers, ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 09:52, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
Another one: [16]. I don't think you should take InChIs from PubChem without reviewing, especially for polymers, as PubChem frequently lists the polymer's components instead of the whole thing. See the structure drawing in [17]. --ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 09:59, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
Okay, I'll be silent in a moment, but what is this? A bug in your script? --ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 10:01, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
Hmm .. this is annoying, and I am really sorry for causing this trouble. I encountered a good handful of cases which simply do not have a proper InChI etc., like the polyolefins etc., but which were nicely out of ChemSpider and hence did not make problems. Now we have suddenly a group where ChemSpider is problematic. I did consider that we might have an odd case where we do have typos in the system and hence get a mistake, but this is heavily thwarting our work. I have stopped working with the script for now - either we need to figure out an easy workaround, or we for now we have to accept a bit of 'errors', and we solve those as we go by. But first, can you think of polymers that should be excluded here, is it easy to make a cross-section of drugs with 'polymer', so we can just make the script ignore these?? --Dirk Beetstra T C 11:29, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
As long as they do not have a CSID, it is fine (we can always set it to 'NA' to 'block' it). I may start running it normally again tomorrow. I have a long list, may try to do an hour or two of CSID-validation this evening. Thanks for the reports and the help! --Dirk Beetstra T C 14:26, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
Is this edit on Triptorelin caused by the same problem? The InChI is definitely wrong. Daniel Bonniot de Ruisselet (talk) 15:40, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
I am going to restart the script again, please do poke me when there are articles mishandled, whether it is from wrong input from the page (wrong identifiers already there), whether it is from wrong data externally (the external database says that compound a has identifier 1, but that is wrong), massive blunders from my side (I do make them), improper data externally (like the InChI's for the polymers), or a combination of some or all of these. --Dirk Beetstra T C 08:01, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
Hmm, quite a lot of different things to address here. I'll add comments in relevant places above. --The chemistds (talk) 19:24, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
Hi Dirk, Following up on the discussion above. We should be able to supply an updated list of ChemSpider records with Wikipedia links. I think that it would be useful if you can supply a list of Chembox/drugboxes that have a CSID, InChI or SMILES - it would help us to identify where we are not currently providing links in to Wikipedia.
Looking at the list in your sandbox - I'd point out that there is a block of ~30 entries that are actually User pages.
With respect to the figures that you give for the number of drug/chem boxes that are missing links ~1200 - It would be nice if this is the case, but I'm not sure how to rationalise this with the number of pages that are missing a CSID - currently listed as ~3700. Some of this may be due to the listing of User pages on the Category:Chemical_pages_needing_a_ChemSpiderID, another part of the disparity may be that some ChemBoxes have several CSIDs - for different enantiomers, my guess is that there are still somewhere between 2500 and 3000 Chem/drugboxes that are missing a link to ChemSpider - but I'll be happy to be proved wrong. --The chemistds (talk) 21:33, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
Hi Beetsra,
I added a link to Dan Ariely's external links, but I noticed you removed it - can you pls tell me why?
I am relatively new to editing and the laws of wikipedia, so I am keen to find out.
Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jamesstatham (talk • contribs) 17:26, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
What an incredible amount of information on my page! Much appreciated. Thank you for not only reading my whole post, but responding, in kind, with much detail. I didn't "go after" this intending a challenging tone; I sincerely wanted to know Wiki policies. Everything you wrote makes sense. In particular, thanks for the whitelisting; I would have had no idea about that. Kasamoto (talk) 19:50, 21 February 2012 (UTC)Kasamoto
Your agressive removal of video links has made me realize how silly I have been. Over 80,000 people looked at the Wikipedia article about The Civil Wars band on one day, Feb. 12/2012 when they won two Grammy Awards. I was one of them. Until recently I looked at Wikipedia as a place to find ALL the information I need quickly, including links to videos. But now that you and your bots are deleting all the video links, I see how foolish I have been. In the past I would go to Google, type in "The Civil Wars", or whatever band, and click on the Wikipedia article. I would read a little, then click on a video link to see and hear what the band sounded like. How silly of me. If I want to hear or see a band, why use Google to go to a middle man? (Wikipedia) Just go directly to Youtube and use their search to find The Civil Wars. What was I thinking before? Next you might delete all references to newspaper websites. Then no one will leave the Wikipedia site to go there either. I think you're onto something here Dirk. Keep those readers on Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.30.94.19 (talk) 08:42, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
No, I do not insist on using the Wikipedia page of The Civil Wars. I may never go there again. Also, as a favor to you Dirk, I'll leave this note at the bottom, where you put it. That way, none of the higher ups at Wikipedia will see it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.30.94.19 (talk) 09:17, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
Dirk, I apologize. I was in error. I inferred (incorrectly) that you were trying to hide my comments by placing them at the bottom. Perhaps this will be my last attempt to make my point. You, and others at Wikipedia are clearly experts at Wikipedia and computers. However, you do not seem to be experts at marketing. Rather than try to back up my statement with words, I will refer you to two graphs. The first is found at the Wikipedia page for The Civil Wars band. I arrived at the page view statistics link through the View history tab. The second is at YouTube. In YouTube, do a search for - The Civil Wars official Poison and Wine. Below the video you will see a big number. As of a few minutes ago, the number was 3,489,204. Directly to the right of this number is a tiny graph. Click it to get the video statistics. I think a comparison of the two graphs will help make my point. We average Joe/Josephine users would really like to keep video links in Wikipedia. Deleting them doesn't seem to help Wikipedia or hurt YouTube. Last, congratulations on your job at KAUST. It seems like an amazing university. I had no idea they were so advanced. By the way, I found out more about them at the Wikipedia KAUST page. I clicked on the official YouTube video link in the External Links section. Adios — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.30.94.19 (talk) 16:55, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
I turned it off because it was getting a lot of false positives after your last change - I think it was getting all edits to one's own user page. You might want to revisit that last one. Thanks, NawlinWiki (talk) 05:22, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
Hi (hope all is good with you) there is an issue with the linking of pages on LinkReports. If you look at this one the link to the Commons user doesn't take you to a user page. I think I had the same issue the other day on Wikibooks if I recall correctly. Thanks & best --Herby talk thyme 08:25, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
Still the same issue with some wikis - looking at this one the edit on Species is actually on the user page not on the page the bot points to for the edit. I think I had the same issue on an en wq page in the past couple of days but didn't have the time to follow it up. Thanks & regards --Herby talk thyme 08:54, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
Taking a look at the block history of 218.186.15.10 (talk · contribs), do you think something more than 31 hours is warranted? This latest vandalism comes right off the back of a 3 month block. --Biker Biker (talk) 16:47, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
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It would be nice to have an option to collapse some chembox sections, in some exceptional cases. For example, in hydrogen chloride, chembos jams the text because of images to the left, and I thought collapsing the "identifiers" might help that (most of them are of low importance for HCl anyway). Any idea? Materialscientist (talk) 06:20, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
Wanted to write about the bot you created COlBot.
I was trying to add links to some articles (Mainly Farsi or if relevant in English)to my website called resource.ir . One of the main features it has is that it lists a pretty comprehensive repertoire of Iranian Consumer products, and detailed information about the product itself, such as information regarding the company, the size and features of the product, and also sister products of that same industry. Hence for example on the page "Mineral Water" in farsi, which is "آب معدنی", I listed a link to the search results for that. The results consists of many common and uncommon products of that industry, i.e. mineral water, and also the link directly in understanding the features of the product and the manufacturer. Similarly for example, another article "Zam Zam Cola", I added the Product Passport of one of its products, http://resource.ir/fa-IR/Product/Details/655399d176ae488d971aee042b0fc9a1?dataLang=_FA (Thats the link for the Farsi Wiki Page of "Zam Zam Cola").
However, your bot saw it as promotional and irrelevant to the page. In essence it is not a promotion of the website per se, but rather as a further extension of the wiki page to learn more about the product, which was not described in the page itself. For example, the directory of products that exists, and also the information regarding the Product Owner itself.
Could you help me out on figuring out the policy of this bot, and seeing whether I am doing something wrong here, or if there is another process where your bot could not misinterpret the intentions of the links?
Here is a link http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:COIBot/LinkReports/resource.ir of the history of your bots actions towards my website.
Appreciate it beforehand. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.57.121.117 (talk) 15:21, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
Thank you
Alex17nico (talk) 07:50, 24 March 2012 (UTC) |
I'm not 100% sure what you mean by "What is done is done", since the case still needs to be reviewed, corrected and/or set aside (and my block log fixed).
While best read rendered and not as bare wiki-markup, I think this link from the short list on my talk page probably sums up some of this stuff pretty well. More specifically, in that section I also wrote: "In the past ArbCom has shown a willingness to go back and review and correct stuff such as they did with the Matthew Hoffman case (Shoemaker's Holiday), and the statement ArbCom made can be found here. [...]" While that case was of course a little different from my case, there are also some parallels. The case that led to the COI RFC was itself a large mess that ArbCom worked hard to correct, which I was really glad to see them do. --Tothwolf (talk) 10:47, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
Hi Dirk !
Can you check why my user is included on this SPAM reports and if possible please remove it. I understand now the external link policy, but I had no intent to SPAM or I don't have any interest about that links. The link's was useful for the page visitors. The links was included as a source for the information included on the page, but I removed them. Also regarding the Sandbox page I deleted it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Spam/LinkReports/rcs-rds.ro http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Spam/Local/rcs-rds.ro Thank You in advance. --Szjozsef (talk) 20:19, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
Hello,
I noticed my username appeared on several Wikiproject-SPAM lists created by COIBot. In all cases, I had copied existing Wikipedia articles into my sandbox. I have already asked an admin to delete these pages, and they may be gone by now.
These four links happened because I had created a copy of Pakistan Navy in my sandbox:
These were because I had created a copy of Austin Chick in my sandbox:
This was because of some other page I had copied into my sandbox (I don't remember which):
After I save this message, I'm going to strike my name off of each of those lists.
I humbly suggest that COIBot should ignore pages within the User: namespace, especially pages named 'User:*/sandbox/*'
May I be whitelisted?
Thank you. Have a good day. Blevintron (talk) 01:12, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
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I've possibly asked you this before. Yesterday I checked CasNo and ChEMBL in Polyestradiol phosphate, found them to be correct, and changed the cascite and ebicite templates to "correct", which obviously was a bad idea because CheMoBot reverted me. What should I have done to change the little red crosses to check marks? --ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 13:45, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
Please, pay attention to this user changes of the Neo Nazism article. Someone fixed the text he meaninglessly altered, which he reverted without justifying it. I do not like entering edit warring here.--216.168.239.87 (talk) 01:44, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
Hi, I came across a number of invalid edits committed by your CheMoBot (see example). Because I am not well-oriented in the infobox properties on English Wikipedia, I shall limit myself to this notification :) Maybe an upgrade of the source code will be needed. Lb.at.wiki (talk) 18:01, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
Hello, Dirk. While updating internal Wiki page links after moving a Wiki article today, I became aware of the following two pages: Wikipedia:WikiProject Spam/Local/mmarising.com and Wikipedia:WikiProject Spam/LinkReports/mmarising.com. I am sorry for not contacting you about this earlier, but I just noticed the pages now. I completely understand why COIBot flagged me earlier this year because I have indeed added many reference links from the site in question. However, I assure you that I do not have any relationship with the site (other than reading it frequently) and I try to accompany all links with written information within the Wiki articles themselves (so Wiki users aren't being "led away" from Wiki via reference links), including in creating entire detailed articles from scratch.
I have added the many links from this one site - and also others - because it typically has the most detailed information possible and therefore makes for the most valuable reference points for Wiki articles that I have edited. In other cases, particularly for events taking place in Europe or Asia, it is the ONLY reference site available for facts and information listed on Wiki pages here. I believe in adding links only to the most relevant external pages available and I try to choose whichever external link is the best and most appropriate. Many of the links that I have added have been on Wiki pages that otherwise had very few reference points (and had notices requesting that more citations be added). Some had no references at all.
I hope to continue to contribute to Wikipedia for a long time, but I want to make sure that I do not get into any trouble for making edits that are truly legitimate. I was wondering if it would be possible to be whitelisted so as to avoid any further reports from COIBot. I will also do my best to try to use sources from additional sites whenever possible. I have had less free time this year, so I have been mostly using two or three sites for reference links, and so I understand why COIBot raised a flag. It is a very intelligent bot. Thank you very much for your time and I am sorry again for not inquiring about this matter earlier this year when it was first flagged. FemaleMMAFan (talk) 10:15, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
((Help me)) Hi there. I saw other company pages that link to their FB & Twitter, are those links considered spam?
(DJDawgLove (talk) 11:56, 6 May 2012 (UTC))
OK thanks. I'm still getting into this and I appreciate your guidance. (DJDawgLove (talk) 13:02, 6 May 2012 (UTC))
Someone at the Teahouse is asking about Methane Hydrates in reference to energy. Given your background I thought you might have some knowledge in this area and might be willing to help point the user in the right direction. I was going to drop your name but thought I should just tell you about the discussion and let you comment if you had the time. Kumioko (talk) 02:51, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
Following your suggestion, I tried editing Nisoxetine and then updating the revid, but nothing happened. I didn't change any of the watched fields because they were all correct, so maybe that's why? The article is up for DYK so I'd like to see only green check marks :-) Help would be appreciated. --ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 08:17, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
Hi Dirk. I have a quick question about Common Chemistry. (If I recall you were involved in discussions with CAS about this.) Is there a list anywhere of which chemicals are included in the Common Chemistry database? My understanding is that it includes the 1000 (or something) chemicals that appear most often in Chemical Abstracts. The thought occurred to me that it might be nice to know how many of those chemicals do not have articles at Wikipedia, especially if there are any missing Wikipedia articles for particularly "high ranking" common chemicals. -- Ed (Edgar181) 18:33, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
I have removed your edit from the aforementioned request for amendment as not being particularly germane to what was being requested. I want to explicitly emphasise that this does not mean that you cannot disagree with the ArbCom decision itself or make your point of view known on-wiki, but jamming it into the formal amendment process is not the best place to do it. I would suggest that Wikipedia talk:Arbitration Committee/Noticeboard or WP:AN might be a better venue if you want to discuss this. On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Lankiveil (speak to me) 06:53, 27 May 2012 (UTC).
Hello Dirk, Jen here, I spoke to you last month about delisting Seazoria from the blacklist and whitelisting them for new page creations. You informed me then that the owner/author (Mike Hallett)would need to submit them. As Mike Hallett is my partner and is here with me now we would like to get the Seazoria name delisted from the blacklist and relisted on the white.. Your help in this process would be deeply appreciated.. Can you please provide some direct as to where to start first.. As always your time in this matter is appreciated.. Thank You log # 486565734 JenEda (talk) 23:43, 29 May 2012 (UTC)JenEda
Hello Dirk, The previous conversation is located at: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki_talk:Spam-blacklist&oldid=486577655 I have since re-listed it on the Whitelist as suggested however it still comes up with a decline to the seazoria/hubpages.com. something about it showing on the /Common requests lists. These articles are reliable and we are not connected with the site owner of hubpages in any way shape or form. We are happy to proceed. I did not notice Scribd.com listed on the /Common requests. and unsure as to how to proceed and use them in our page creations for the Hallettestoneion Seazoria Dragons page. Thank You In Advance. JenEda (talk) 02:24, 31 May 2012 (UTC)JenEda
hi,Dirk Beetstra this is whole Entertainment site related bollywood movies reviews, rating and celeb gossips. I just a added link in wikipedia pages our related a bollywood movies and news. all references links are relevancy article source. (Just2like (talk) 06:47, 30 May 2012 (UTC))
Hi, Dirk Beetstra
Yes I want remove my doamin on Spam Backlist. My (moviezadda)domain in the list of spam blacklist but I want to remove balcklist. Thanks for reply. --(Just2like (talk) 08:08, 30 May 2012 (UTC))
Dirk Beetstra, if you want to make comments about Belgium, try to get your facts straight. "Antwerp is currently the Belgian province surrounding Brussels" is clearly incorrect. As for the rest: feel free to start an RfC (or CfD) to remove the thousands of "historically incorrect" country-year categories if you feel so inclined. It's more useful than injecting that opinion into multiple discussions when the current situation so blatantly differs from your position. If these thousands of old cats are accepted, then there is a clear de facto consensus that these are acceptable and no further discussion prior to other creations is needed in that regard. It is up to you to show a consensus against them, not the other way around. Fram (talk) 07:51, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
Hi Dirk, just FYI because I do not know how often you get over there to notice new proposed entries on the XLinkBot's Talk page, but I just added 5 new links I think should be appropriate for it. Thanks... Zad68
17:51, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
Zad68
18:16, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
Zad68
15:47, 22 June 2012 (UTC)Zad68
15:04, 25 June 2012 (UTC)Hi, rather than adding lots of #if statements to infoboxes, it would be better to use a #switch statement and actually even better to consolidate it all into a sinlge template. I've created ((Hide if placeholder image)) and have updated Infobox person to use it as an example. -- WOSlinker (talk) 12:52, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
I've just answered on my talk page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NicoSchottelius (talk • contribs) 15:04, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for your hints, Dirk. I now do understand that these tags stay until someone independently removes them. Thanks for clarification! (btw, how does it usually work with those talk pages, do you remove the content on your userpage after some time?) — Preceding unsigned comment added by NicoSchottelius (talk • contribs) 17:28, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Level one user warnings. (This invitation sent because you signed up as a member of WP:UWTEST) Steven Walling (WMF) • talk 18:22, 27 June 2012 (UTC) Steven Walling (WMF) • talk 18:22, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
Hello. I frequently utilize the resources available at the Humboldt County Schools website, a bonafide major school district on the North Coast of California, for my editing of the following articles: Freshwater Elementary School District, Eureka High School (California), and previously Freshwater Elementary School, which was deleted after pertinent information was placed into the District article (first one listed here) after consensus was achieved that it was not notable. I suppose you have reasons to track access to any aspect of the Humboldt County Schools, which, I guess is how your bot assigned a spam report to me and reported me here Wikipedia:WikiProject Spam/LinkReports/internet.humboldt.k12.ca.us AND here Wikipedia:WikiProject Spam/Local/internet.humboldt.k12.ca.us (there are two distinct reports). I can say that it was a bit of shock to me to see this when I looked at "what links here" in relation to my own editor name (Norcalal) and saw this report. You suggest in your talk page that I could move this along faster if I want to make the case in spam reports, but that feels odd to me and I take issue with having to "make my case" where an errant bot is tracking me for obtaining information in the maintenance of articles related to schools/school districts. I hope you understand that my goal here is that you will remedy the issue and remove the report. There must be a way for your bot to do its job and not issue a spam report on an editor who visits a major school district website or utilizes a major school district website for a reference or citation. Thank you. Please let me know of your findings. Regards, Norcalal (talk) 08:27, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
A bit late (and pointless) to insert this into the ongoing ANI discussion, but you stated there "I have yet to see an explanation why colon-isation or commenting out is a better method than outright removal." You may not be convinced by the explanations, but they were given a long time ago, at the start of the discussion (e.g. "Actually, you do waste it. Perhaps not yours, but the wikitime of other people. Reactivating categories is much easier and faster than having to go through the history to find a version pre your edits and get the cats from there. Fram (talk) 08:18, 29 June 2012 (UTC)" and "AfC pages are supposed to have the categories indicated [...] — Arthur Rubin (talk) 07:57, 29 June 2012 (UTC)" and "This makes it much easier for the people creating articles in userspace to move the pages to the mainspace and to check that the categories they want to use actually exist, while still having the wanted benefit of removing non-mainspace pages from mainspace categories. Fram (talk) 07:31, 29 June 2012 (UTC)") Fram (talk) 07:18, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
(ec)Alan's edits, by all means, could be construed as improving Wikipedia (it is all but true that those pages do not belong in the categories, and they should be removed from it, there may be a dispute on the method, but it is improving Wikipedia that the categories are removed). Alan then gets told to stop - but indicates that he is improving Wikipedia and has all intentions do continue to do so. Thát was the reason for the block .. he was intending to continue to improve Wikipedia. And when he reiterates that incentive, his AWB rights get removed. And that results in him taking a wikibreak (at best). And that is what you started over three edits .. that is, over 2 rejected AfC's and a user sandbox containing something that is not even close to a suitable mainspace page - all abandonded by the creators by months (some creators may have been there again under an IP). And just before that, a couple of days earlier, maybe a week, you demanded Alan to stop something that had full consensus, what was done for ages (over 80% done), and what was clearly improving Wikipedia (the consensus was quite clearly that the images did not make Wikipedia professional). So there you have it. Two times you ask Alan to stop improving Wikipedia. And now Alan is on Wikibreak because of those situations. And that is what I think what is going on - this happens by many editors to many editors who are improving Wikipedia, but are asked to stop over what are futilities, it results in well established editors going on wikibreaks (so they do not improve Wikipedia for some time), on retirement (so they stop improving Wikipedia, or at best, if they return at some time, they do not improve Wikipedia for some time), or refuse to do improving mainspace edits at all (and hence, bye bye improvement, again in the best case for some time). I know Fram, it is not only you, but you are certainly one of those editors who have as an effect on editors that Wikipedia does not get improved by others, there are several others who do the same, and ArbCom is a great tool in it, and that is why I think that it is broken. All in all, that effect is very damaging to Wikipedia. --Dirk Beetstra T C 07:55, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
WP:UP#SUB I saw that you undid my edit. Please don't. WP:UserPages (specifically WP:UP#SUB and WP:UPYES) don't allow for a userpage to be redirected into main space.
UP#Sub states:
User page
Your user page has a name like this: User:Example. (This link is to yours.) Its normal use is to give basic information if you wish, about yourself or your Wikimedia-related activities. You don't have to say anything about yourself. If you prefer to put nothing here then you can redirect it to your user talk page for the convenience of other editors.
Nothing in this allows for a redirect anywhere else.
Further UPYES states:
Details about yourself should not normally go in the main encyclopedia namespace (reserved for encyclopedia articles only), and encyclopedia articles should never link to any userspace pages.
Linking User:ThomasMoore1852 to Thomas Moore is in direct opposition to this policy.
I realize the first reason I gave is really subjective and could be dismissed as "only my interpretation" . However,I'm not the only one that's removed that redirect. I won't go so far as saying it's consensus, I would say thus far, Yourself and Pennyup are the two that favor it Toddst1. AuburnPilot (both admins) and myself are saying this cannot be done.
Leave it be for the time being,please. "....We are all Kosh...." <-Babylon-5-> 17:39, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
I saw your note to me about removing the blocking of Medicina Mexico. We have been in contact with a steward and an administrator. They are allowing me to write a new article.
Samuel Samuelmeza (talk) 08:19, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
Our customer has put me in charge of this wikipedia article, I am the only one from this point on from Medicina Mexico that will make changes. There will be no links, spam or whatever. I am in the process of adding a new article as I am writing it. Please do not blacklist Medicina Mexico or our other customers Latin America Better Business Bureau and World wide pharmacy Association. I am waiting for permission to write articles from the others that meet with wikipedia. I expect that I will also be in charge of those since these people only speak Spanish.
Thank you
Samuel
Samuelmeza (talk) 08:29, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
I learned long ago to avoid editing near User:Plasmic Physics. This editor has maintained a strong interest in Chemboxes and his actions are essentially useless or disruptive. The Chem-admins avoid this issue (most controversial issues, it seems), but you have been effective in the past. Could you please monitor the situation and offer some guidance to those of us that would like to edit in that space? Starting with User talk:Plasmic Physics? An open discussion at ChemicalsTalk would be a good start. For example, do you think that it is necessary to require citations for each name and synonym as in ethylenediaminetetraacetic acid? --Smokefoot (talk) 13:00, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
Sigh. About using Pubchem as a reference: "That name is automatically generated using an algorithm which almost always follows the IUPAC algorithm, which is why I compare the two.". And that in a way about 'pentane' - which is IMHO so common that it does not need a reference, as if that is data likely to be challenged. @Anypodetos, PubChem is conglomerate data, I would not use it as a reliable source, but go to the real sources. --Dirk Beetstra T C 08:57, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
It looks like this has finally been put to rest (see Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Chemicals#Chembox_Rules), no doubt a result of a large amount of effort on your part. Thanks for navigating through a tricky situation and keeping a cool head. Ckalnmals (talk) 04:58, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
I see that your bot currently is adding InChIs from Chemspider to the chemboxes. I have been checking a few of the name/InChI relationships (I work on name to structure software) and encountered a few cases where the InChI and indeed the Chemspider reference does not match the page's structure (name and image). In the cases I've identified so far the PubChem reference has had the correct InChI. It occurs to me that an automated way of flagging up such potentially suspect references would be to look for conflicts between the InChI of the referenced PubChem record and Chemspider record. Have you considered such a check in CheMoBot? --Dan2097 (talk) 22:47, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
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Referring to the ArbCom talk page comment you made. NewtonGeek (talk) 12:04, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
Can you please help with writing the reactions for synthesis of Alcian blue stain? I have put the relevant reference on the talk page. Also if possible help me with the DYKs and reference reformatting. Thanks. --Dr.saptarshi (talk) 17:37, 18 July 2012 (UTC) Also please help me assess the scoring (starter vs C vs ?) for this fairly freshly writen article (I am yet to fill up the biologic staining part as that is where there is too much easily available material.. but I have painfully compiled the rest of the information some of which were quite challenging to collect given my scarce resources. I am also not a chemistry person. So some of the chemistry parts may need verification by a chemist. Can you please check if I wrote this interpretation correct (based on the images eg where are the X groups bonded here: http://stainsfile.info/StainsFile/dyes/74240.htm )
I myself dont like the statement as it is to verbose. moreover I am not confident about its acuracy. If this statement is wrong please delete it. Most of the other statements I wrote are pretty much from concrete references but this was one of the only few exceptions where I hazarded a guess (I know it is not a good thing to do. That is why I am writing to a chemist like you for help. Thanks --Dr.saptarshi (talk) 17:56, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
I refer to: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Spam/2010_Archive_Apr_1#cleantechnology-business-review.com
There is a note that you left that many "regulars" use links to this site. That's because they have an archive of old computer magazine abstracts that make good reference material for the 1990s, an otherwise underreported decade.
cbronline, where these are hosted, was blocked, and according to the discussion, apparently through guilt-by-association, but I can't really tell from a short post.
Do you remember this? None of the links work, so I can't even really see what the problem was. Maury Markowitz (talk) 11:16, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
It's been active for a long time since your reply in April. I wonder if you approve my request, now that outrate.net is no longer active. --George Ho (talk) 16:00, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
Hi Beetstra. A group of NFPA templates, which you created in 2007, but which are now unused since being substed into ((NFPA-chembox)) in June 2007, have been nominated for deletion. You are welcome to participate in the deletion discussion. Note that ((NFPA-chembox)) and ((NFPA 704)), which are used have not been nominated for deletion. DH85868993 (talk) 00:01, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
Please check my comment at ANI, The block was not appropriate because it was the sock of User:Nangparbat who uses multiple IPs to cause disruption. Admins Elockid and Elen of the roads had been playing whack a mole with his socks since long. At least discuss this with an admin who is aware about Nangparbat. regards.--DBigXray 13:30, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
The edit you make here seems to have made all images no longer display in the template. As a non-admin, I cannot fix it.--ARTEST4ECHO (talk/contribs) 13:09, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
Hi, you're a genious, the page was indeed supposed to be in User: namespace, but I didn't translate it from Serbian by accident. Thanks! --Дарко Максимовић (talk) 12:26, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
Hello there
a number of my external links were removed even though they are closely/intimately related to the subject in hand.
User:COIBot/LinkReports/heraldryonthe.net
For example in the Article "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Hohenberg" I have included a link to a short film showing the common ancestry of ALL members of the House of Hohenberg. This was "A short film showing the common ancestry of all the descendants of Franz Ferdinand and Sophie Duchess of Hohenberg".
Given your statement on the previous page why delete that and not "Artstetten Castle"?
Regards
AlaxanderHalka — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexanderhalka (talk • contribs) 19:07, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
Given that you probably have not looked at the links before deleting them: can you please state under what specific reasons my links were blocked? I have looked at your suggestions and could not find adequate explanations. Given your Wikipedia-seniority it would be courteous to point to specific rule-breaking to "Wikipedians" with less experience in these matters than you. Kind Regards Alexanderhalka Alexanderhalka (talk) 13:29, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
I put catsbe.com link to the cat page, as I saw tere where others. I remember wikipedia rules, as I was a regular user in Italy years ago, so I rarely put on wikipedia voices or urls from which the global community can't take any benefts. This is the reason I'd like to discuss with you the last link - catsbe.com, as the first attempt to build a worldwide cat census. Don't you think it could have a valor for people interested in cats who open wikipedia cat page to find infos about this animal? To avoid any further misunderstand, yes, I'm also the owner of catsbe.com and yes I'm launching it, but through paid channels. But the reason I build this site should be obvious by its name: create a cat census as there's nothing like that existing in the world, right now. So, I still ask you, wouldn't this info an encyclopedian valor? Any answer will be very much appreciated :)
Hacchan (talk) 08:27, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
The WikiProject Report would like to focus on WikiProject Chemicals for a Signpost article. This is an excellent opportunity to draw attention to your efforts and attract new members to the project. Would you be willing to participate in an interview? If so, here are the questions for the interview. Just add your response below each question and feel free to skip any questions that you don't feel comfortable answering. Multiple editors will have an opportunity to respond to the interview questions, so be sure to sign your answers. If you know anyone else who would like to participate in the interview, please share this with them. Have a great day. -Mabeenot (talk) 05:46, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
Hi Beetstra,
I just got a talk page message from an editor who was listed on Wikipedia:WikiProject Spam/LinkReports by your bot. This appears to be a mistake, and neither she nor I, to be honest, can figure out what the correct procedure is for removing her username from this list.
So, that's my first question. But my broader question is, is it really necessary to produce these kinds of reports, listing the usernames of people who may have been tangentially involved in some kind of spamming incident? The (very tl;dr) template on top of the report states: "Your appearance there does not mean you or one of the other accounts named here have a conflict of interest with adding the link, or that you or one of the other accounts named here were spamming the link: it may very well be accidental overlap, or a good link that was picked up by the bot accidentily, or a good link which is nonetheless under investigation of the WikiProject's Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard or Wikipedia:WikiProject Spam."
So... then what's the point of adding usernames at all? This seems like a great way to unnecessarily shame and stress out good contributors, and frankly it makes me very grumpy. If this piece of bureaucracy is not your doing, please let me know who I should be grumpy at. Thanks, Maryana (WMF) (talk) 20:58, 1 October 2012 (UTC)
It is not a list of suspected spammers, that is where your misconception lies. --Dirk Beetstra T C 07:42, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
Just to add, my name is on several of the LinkReports as a user who added the link. Do you understand what that tells me? a) there is NO reason to remove the person from that list, b) I don't see any reason to apologize profusely (I think that is a massive assumption of bad faith on my address), and this is Wikipedia, you can help in upgrading the readability - but we are NOT removing one's name, except if one can show that one did not add the link that was mentioned. Your remarks are highly inappropriate, Maryana. --Dirk Beetstra T C 16:37, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
Tito Dutta ✉ 22:58, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
Is there a reason why new entries like visa information for Myanmar are deleted as well? It is not there previously and we added them and hope it helps.
To add, we have written visa guide based on nationalities and many of them are translating in their home languages. We wish you can reconsider and revert back some of those useful link which can benefit readers.
Should you not to, would you mind if we can send you some links to our articles for you preview before adding them to the page?
Pin — Preceding unsigned comment added by Earnpin (talk • contribs) 14:20, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
First, thank you Elen for first commenting on AN/I before mentioning it to me.
Beetstra (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
OK, sorry. I withdraw that remark. I should have worded that different. --Dirk Beetstra T C 20:15, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
Accept reason:
((unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~))
, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. Elen of the Roads (talk) 20:15, 18 October 2012 (UTC)Thank you. 184.78.81.245 (talk) 16:17, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
I'm a longtime and trusted editor on en.wiki. My name was picked up by your bot on this list:
Item 62. The links are relevant to the article and have been reviewed by peers. Please remove me. gidonb (talk) 02:45, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
I made a request to have an article from The Metal Observer whitelisted a while back, and you are the only editor who has responded. Do you have the authority and inclination to approve this request? If you have any further questions regarding the requested use of this article, I will be happy to answer those at WT:WHITELIST. Thanks! Wilhelm Meis (☎ Diskuss | ✍ Beiträge) 08:10, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
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Hi Mr. Beetstra,
I am requesting the removal of Talk.to from the Wikipedia blacklist. This is it's COIbot report
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:COIBot/LinkReports/talk.to
I had requested the removal on this forum first
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:Spam-blacklist#Talk.to
Here, I was informed that it had been blacklisted earlier, when it was owned differently and used as a URL redirector. I was asked to defer to the Meta blacklist and I did so, here
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Spam_blacklist#Talk.to
But now that no one is responsing to my query here, I am not really sure how to proceed over this or what action will be taken in this case. I would really appreciate it if you could please help me out here.
Thanks!
Ankush Saxena 115.111.191.42 (talk) 07:50, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard regarding a content dispute in which you may have been involved. Content disputes can hold up article development, therefore we are requesting your participation to help find a resolution. The thread is "MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist".
Please take a moment to review the simple guide and join the discussion. Thank you! EarwigBot operator / talk 18:04, 5 December 2012 (UTC) XLinkBot bug?see example given on my talk page Thanks & Happy Holidays! --Versageek 04:14, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
Wikipedia:WikiProject Spam/LinkReports/comcourts.gov.auHi, I have just noticed my user name listed on this page Wikipedia:WikiProject Spam/LinkReports/comcourts.gov.au What should I do to delete my user name from the page? Philiashasspots (talk) 09:31, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
Grand Prince Royal Jinan
Dear, Wiki administrators. I was quite angry because you guys blocked my legitimate article on Grand Prince Jinan. After all, this is quite personal because he is my (figuratively speaking) grandfather and Sejong the great is our ancestor’s baby brother. So, I was angry cause you were challenging me. My article is posted and legitimately posted. My other agents are stop working for your sake. Unblock my website. It is pretty legitimate website that you shouldn’t tinker with, or you can come to South Korea to deal with me. Lee, Jyong Chul.
We are not talking about chance anymore - done. --Dirk Beetstra T C 07:26, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
ChemboxesWas it you who recommended that I let things settle, before reattempting to initialise discussions? Plasmic Physics (talk) 02:39, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
How do we start? Plasmic Physics (talk) 09:26, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
WikiProject_Spam/LinkReports/miboecfr.nicusa.comWhy is the domain: "miboecfr.nicusa.com" listed as possible spam?
It is indeed as Werieth says, and as is mentioned in the templated remark on top of the page: a case of a previously unused link added by an account who has not added too much of links which triggered the bot to report it. Although regularly mistaken, it is very, very typical behaviour observed by spammers (and less for 'good' links - such links tend to be added by multiple, generally more established editors). Although here certainly not the case, good reliable sources from respectable organisations can still be 'spammed' (i.e. added for the sole purpose of search engine optimisation). I'll clear this one in the bots - this type of posts to me is what makes the bots spend more time on the stuff that might be spam, and ignore the links that .. can be ignored. Thanks! --Dirk Beetstra T C 08:06, 9 February 2013 (UTC) I've whitelisted the whole 'nicusa.com' domain. --Dirk Beetstra T C 08:24, 9 February 2013 (UTC) Question about user talk pagesHi Dirk, I couldn't find the answer to this...is it possible to edit a user's talkpage? Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikiaccount2311 (talk • contribs) 15:38, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
Hello, thanks for your reply! It seems that the talk/editing command didn't show up on the last couple of visits, but that seems to have resolved itself. Nvm :) -WA — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikiaccount2311 (talk • contribs) 13:25, 25 February 2013 (UTC) An old issueCheck out Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Pproctor/Archive. --Smokefoot (talk) 03:54, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
COIBotI just stumbled across this bot and had a thought. I wonder if it could be enhanced to cover other types of obviously COI edits, like large deletions in controversy sections or new users adding blatantly promotional language. For example, I do a lot of cleanups by searching for articles that mention "industry-leading" or "turnkey." It might be worth flagging new users using language like this. Just figured I'd share the thought that came to mind. CorporateM (Talk) 02:14, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
Bot requestI don't know if your bot can do this or not, but here's the problem. Template:CongLinks, used in External links, has a washpo parameter, for Washington Post. The broken links are all alphabetic (plus underlines and possibly commas) but the working ones are a mix of alpha and numbers in two versions. Blanche Lincoln is broken, Dick Durbin works, and anything that looks like f9d0a3fa-4bbc-11e2-8758-b64a2997a921 works. Can your bot go through and blank out only the broken (old) instances? 184.78.81.245 (talk) 16:51, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
avoiceformenCan you please explain this? [23] Probably it was my mistake, as I am not expert of wikipedia policies (I hope this is the right way of contacting you...), but the discussion in the bottom only contains a "archived report. Please do not modify it. Subsequent reports should be made in a new section", which is what I did. AnnSec (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 15:00, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
Thank you AnnSec (talk) 07:10, 18 March 2013 (UTC) A barnstar for you!
COI TemplateHi Beetstra. I was hoping you might be able to help me with a bot item. There is strong consensus here to apply Template:COI editnotice to Category:Companies based in Idaho. It's a Talk template that provides advice to PRs that represent the organization. Companies in Idaho is a test sample before applying to all Orgs. How do I get a BOT to apply the template to the category? I submitted a request at bot requests, but it just got ignored and archived. CorporateM (Talk) 19:14, 23 March 2013 (UTC) This user is appealing their indef block, and I have placed the request on hold for further discussion. Since it appears you tried to talk some sense into them before any comments you may have now would be welcome. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:59, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
International Water AssociationHow do we add the IWA's Water Wiki to the IWA entry, since the IWA have managed to get their Wiki black-listed? I assume they were black listed because someone over-enthusiastically added links to their material; but their Wiki does contain useful information for people interested in water & sewage treatment. When I first tried to add the link I got a message saying it was blacklisted and to put in a request to the blacklisting part of Wikipedia. When I did that I had a reply saying just put it in, removing the http:// part of the address. So I did. You then deleted the reference. So, again, how do we add a reference to a useful Water-based wiki that is sponsored by the IWA to the IWA entry? Bendel boy (talk) 21:10, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
SO, I've put it on the talk page. The Water Wiki is (i) sponsored by the IA and (ii) contains useful information in water & wastewater treatment. Its inclusion as a link provides access to another set of wiki information for people interested in water/wastewater treatment. Why is it so wrong to have it as a link on the IWA page? Perhaps you can reply on the IWA page; it looks as if no-one reads it, unless I try and a link! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bendel boy (talk • contribs) 21:31, 22 April 2013 (UTC) *.onion in the blacklist
I saw your comment when it was added to the block list, and had a question. In it you say that .onion links are regularly abused, but did not give any source to it. I have been observing Tor (anonymity network) (no abuse this year), .onion (also no abuse for 2013), The Hidden Wiki (two ip one time edits, and one good faith edit by User:Dionyziz), and Silk Road which is currently under RFC to decide how to deal with its official link. I was thus wondering if I just have been missing the regularly abuses, or if this is the scope of the abuse cases regarding .onion links. Belorn (talk) 08:27, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
OneMadScientist - Says - Thanks For The WelcomeI dont know if this is the best/correct palce to respond to your kind welcome but, Thanks, I appericate it VERY MUCH!. Best Regards from OneMadScientist--OneMadScientist (talk) 13:38, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
Hi, I just needed to say to someone who should understand this issue and understand what I was saying. I am being labeled as some sort of rude stupid idiot buy people who disagree with me but it seams lack even the ability and basic understanding to put forward a coherent statment in there own defense and others agree with them because?? I am a barbarian?. you can see I going a bit nuts here. Anyhow BestRegards--OneMadScientist (talk) 19:12, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
I thank you for taking the time to respond to my post. Thankyou --OneMadScientist (talk) 11:33, 10 May 2013 (UTC) bot-maintained drugboxesHello, I started a discussion over at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Pharmacology about the idea of creating a bot to create and maintain instances of Template:Drugbox. User:Boghog rightly pointed out that you would have some valuable perspective here. When/if you are able, we'd love to hear your thoughts... Cheers, Andrew Su (talk) 20:39, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
Greetings and... slash-and-burnGreetings Beetstra. I see that you're more or less following the latest movements over at Slash-and-burn and I don't want to interfere with anything that you're sorting out there. However, I really think that those editions should be reverted, a) 'cos they're basically just a copy-and-paste of an article at Wikisource which is, b) in itself a pretty deficient translation, c) much of the newly added content seems to me to be pretty irrelevant to the actual article, and d) the style in which it is written (copy-pasted) is that of an interesting general cultural work on "Finnforest culture", but not really that of an authoritative encyclopaedia article. AGF prevents me from adding further comments to the list, and as I know nothing whatsoever about the subject in question, I'll leave it up to your better judgement to go from here. Regards, --Technopat (talk) 12:11, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
Historical verses present usageI noticed in the RfC discussion about categorization you weighed into this discussion. Currently we have CfD discussions about Category:1905 establishments in Israel, Category:1889 establishments in South Africa, Category:1781 establishments in Mexico, Category:1939 establishments in Moldova and Category:1864 establishments in Germany all of which involve issues of how to treat historic establishments in countries that either did not exist at the time or had different boundaries. I thought you might want to weigh into some of these discussions. There are also those about such categories as Category:1989 establishments in the Democratic Republic of the Congo which are slightly different because they only involve place name change.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:38, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
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Establishments by year in placeI think though it is pretty clear that Category:1986 establishments in India is a workable category. I am thinking though we need to come to a decision to not implement the categories to the extreme. My current thought is A-we should have no pre-1800 establishments by country categories. B-between 1800 and 1900 we should divide by continent, and only divide further when there is justification to do so. I am not sure that there is any workable place to make that proposal though. If you want to pursue this, I would suggest you start by proposing say the 8 categories in Category:Establishments in France by year that are from before 1000. They all only have one article. You want to do it with categories that do not have any definition problems, although arguably that far back what is France might be in dispute. For what it is worth, 1858 is currently the earliest French category with as many as 10 articles. However, my experience is that almost all these categories are much smaller than even our current articles would if fully categorized make them.John Pack Lambert (talk) 06:48, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
Question about LinkWatcherDoes LinkWatcher report all links in notices to the wikipedia-en-spam channel, so does it exclude whitelisted users and/or links? The reason I ask is because I use the channel as input for User:WebCiteBOT. Of course the links we most want to archive are the ones most likely to be useful long term, which is kind of the opposite purpose as the IRC channel. Thanks, ThaddeusB (talk) 18:50, 19 June 2013 (UTC) Orangeburg, SC and external linksHello Dirk, I have added the adjusted links to the Orangeburg, SC wikipedia page... https://www.facebook.com/pages/Lonesome-Dog-Music/176668749877?ref=hl https://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Local-Music-Scene-Orangeburg/157694421071087 The top link is for Jerry Axson who is a notable figure born in Orangeburg, SC who now maintains a Facebook page for all musicians and bands ever coming from Orangeburg, SC. The site he maintains is the only site of its kind for the City of Orangeburg therefore he brings value to the City by representing historical facts on and about the artistic culture of the City. The second link is for the actual Facebook page he maintains for the musicians and bands coming from Orangeburg, SC If you have any questions please contact me back and I would appreciate any help you can give me concerning adding this line to the Orangeburg, SC wikipedia page. Sincerely - Jerry Axson Shymbeebymbee (talk) 14:10, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
Notable from the standpoint of Wikipedia? is that your frame of reference for your question? If it's a problem simply forget about the "Jerry Axson" external link but I do request retaining the link to "Local Music Scene Orangeburg". Thanks. Shymbeebymbee (talk) 13:58, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
Local Music Scene is a chronicled history of the past 40 years of local artists, musicians, and bands that have came out of Orangeburg and played in and around Orangeburg. These are generations of individuals who were born in Orangeburg, went to school in Orangeburg, have grown up and worked in Orangeburg. These same people contribute daily to the economy and social structure that is the City of Orangeburg, SC. If you go to the page you will see this history being represented in the postings I am compiling of these people, the biographies of the individuals and the bands they participated in, the pictures I am organizing and posting of each represented individual and band, the videos I am posting of captured live performances that took place in and around the city of Orangeburg, and the sound samples I am posting representing a portion of these artists body of work which does add to the cultural signifigance of Orangeburg, SC in that some of these original songs were written about Orangeburg or have reference to growing up in Orangeburg and being a part of the culture of Orangeburg. I hope this helps you to understand the artistic and cultural importance of the page I'm wanting to link and if you visit the page please notice the notes and messages left by Orangeburg natives commenting on events that have directly affected their lives growing up in Orangeburg, SC. tHANKS Shymbeebymbee (talk) 15:18, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
Thanks Dirk for your help in this matter but I feel we've reached an impass and I'm just not getting any really clear explaination from you on why this does not qualify and I would like to note at this point that Steve Adkins is listed and linked here and he is a retired local musician so forgive me but I'm having difficulty weighing the qualifications you mandate for what is and what is not listed on the page. Could you please direct me to someone above you that I might speak with concerning this? Thanks and have a good day Shymbeebymbee (talk) 18:05, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
Not a problem Dirk and I do appreciate your taking time to respond. Shymbeebymbee (talk) 19:05, 27 June 2013 (UTC) Help?Hey what's going on? I feel lost in the DMV. I got approved but it still doesn't work. See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:Spam-whitelist#Gymnastics_Examiner_still_not_working TCO (talk) 01:46, 1 July 2013 (UTC) P.s. Go chemistry.
EDPlease participate in the discussion at Talk:Encyclopedia_Dramatica. I would very much prefer to discuss the issue on the talk page rather than use edit summaries to exchange arguments. --Conti|✉ 18:49, 2 July 2013 (UTC) It not spamHello, Dirk, My name is Tatiana. I make a contribution to the free encyclopedia Wikipedia since 2008 with good intentions and I never had remarks. I would like to ask you : Why your Bot COIBot characterized links as "the conflict of interests"? It is a error. No conflict of interests. It not spam. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Spam/LinkReports/timbres-monaco.fr (Report for timbres-monaco.fr (XWiki spam by 87.254.248.105 88.209.77.249 87.254.245.29 88.209.92.40 ) http://en.wikipedia.org/?diff=542099291 I would like to explain to you. I noticed that links which were put by me earlier, became dead (the empty page) and I replaced them with live links, having carried out a lot of work. I care only of the facts, which have the right to be present at the free encyclopedia Wikipedia. For example: Stamp of Monaco - "Effigy in profile of H.S.H. Prince Albert II of Monaco". So was: http://www.oetp-monaco.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=1_38&product_id=1029 So became: http://www.oetp-monaco.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=1_38&product_id=1031 Or other example: Stamp of Monaco - "150th birthday of creation of l`Orchestre Philharmonic of Monte Carlo". So was: http://www.oetp-monaco.com/webkit/jsp/pop_bout.jsp?idBout=43&idRay=186&idProd=676&langue=EN So became: http://pluq59.free.fr/image/Monaco/2006/2536.jpeg Now you see a difference? This same image of the Stamp of Monaco, only the page exchanged. Or still example: I replaced the image of the Stamp of Monaco "Block of H.S.H. Prince Albert II of Monaco' marriage to Miss Charlene Wittstock" on the same image Stamp of Monaco of the best quality. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=549501607&oldid=549497966 So was: http://www.oetp-monaco.com/image/data/11BlocMariageAG.gif So became: (...) It not spam. Please, I ask you to correct an error of COIBot. Thank you in advance. (Excuse me for my English.) With the best regards, Tatiana, Monaco 87.254.248.105 (talk) 13:18, 6 July 2013 (UTC)
With the best regards, Tatiana 87.254.248.105 (talk) 19:26, 12 July 2013 (UTC) Reverts at asafoetidaHello, would you please check out the article on Asafoetida as some info was reverted with the reason "text and sources do not match" also some citation needed tags were removed and other things were changed to the articles detriment. If the reverting "editor" actually checked these sources (references) they do actually back up the info added. I think this reversion action was totally unwarranted, unconstructive and thus I can only assume was performed out of dislike for the editor that made the changes. Not a constructive "encyclopedia building" move IMO. Thank you and best regards. --122.111.242.62 (talk) 05:27, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
WikiProject Spam/LinkReports/sibsabah.org.myJust wanted to give you a heads-up that COIbot created WikiProject Spam/LinkReports/sibsabah.org.my in mainspace. Ishdarian 23:15, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
Histogram Adjustments in MATLAB (link removed)Hello, Why did you remove the link: http://imageprocessingblog.com/histogram-adjustments-in-matlab-part-i/ ? didn't you find it relevant to the topic? the link is to a three parts guide to histogram adjustments in MATLAB, and I find it very useful and relevant. Please consider to undo your editing please, checkout the guide, I think you will find it is comprehensive and well written and with excellent examples. (BTW: I'm not the author) Thanks and all the best, MaxPlank111 — Preceding unsigned comment added by MaxPlank111 (talk • contribs) 09:56, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
Image Histogram link that you removerHello Dirk, Why did you remove the link I added? I find it very relevant and useful. It is a three parts posts on Histogram Adjustments in MATLAB, very well written and with nice examples. Please reconsider your removal. Thank --MaxPlank111 (talk) 10:21, 14 July 2013 (UTC)MaxPlank111
John D. LukacsCould you put this article on your Watch list and help revert the COI editor's edit-warring until he gets blocked or whatever the admins decide to do with him? He's been reported (by another editor) for 3RR but no action there yet. If so, thanks. Softlavender (talk) 08:12, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
Old bug on AbuseFilterHi! FYI: I think the cause of this problem you had with AbuseFilter in 2009 is bugzilla:50107. Helder 17:51, 15 July 2013 (UTC) For your anti-spam efforts
At it againUser:JLUKACS1 is COI editing his own non-notable article again John D. Lukacs, and is massively edit-warring despite repeated warnings. Not only that, he has created another promotional article, about his own book, Escape from Davao. Please help. Can you put these two articles on your Watch list and also help revert/warn/report/etc. the user? Thanks. Softlavender (talk) 22:42, 21 July 2013 (UTC) User:Softlavender is engaging in massive edit-warring on her own initiative. This user seems to be displaying a strange, irrational obsession with me and my activity on Wikipedia that is bordering on harassment. I have provided my own warning to the user in regards to their inappropriate behavior. There is no law prohibiting me from accurately editing my own Wikipedia entry. I am not engaging in any promotional activities, nor I have submitted any inappropriate or unsuitable materials. I respectfully request a review of the material that I have submitted and that this user be blocked from editing the article John D. Lukacs and Escape From Davao in the future. Thank you for your time and assistance. JLUKACS1 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 23:47, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
Request to take part in a surveyHi there. I would very much appreciate it if you could spend ~2 minutes and take a short survey - a project trying to understand why the most active Wikipedia contributors (such as yourself) may reduce their activity, or retire. I sent you an email with details, if you did not get it please send me a wikiemail, so that I can send you an email with the survey questions. I would very much appreciate your cooperation, as you are among the most active Wikipedia editors who show a pattern of reduced activity, and thus your response would be extremely valuable. Thanks! --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 12:44, 22 July 2013 (UTC) ![]() It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can You've got mail)) or ((ygm)) template. at any time by removing the (( Spam whitelist requestGreetings! It's good to see you back around at the Spam whitelist page. I appreciate your time and hope you will have a look at the request I made there over a month ago, which still has not gotten any response at all. It looks like only two volunteers have been doing most of the work there in the past month or so, and they may be a tad overworked. Please let me know if I can be of any assistance. Wilhelm Meis (☎ Diskuss | ✍ Beiträge) 03:10, 13 August 2013 (UTC) Cyberbot III owe you an apology. I was in error. I was running an outdated version of the blacklist engine that generates the regexes to scan. It was brought to my attention on my talk.—cyberpower ChatOnline 02:07, 29 August 2013 (UTC) getting all external links in "real-time"Hi, I'm Vinay Goel, data engineer at the Internet Archive. We're starting to work on a web archiving project where we crawl external links from Wikipedia articles at the time they're made (so near real time). Looking at the Recent Changes feed, it looks like I'd need to parse the 'diff' page to find any new links, or in the case of 'new' pages, parse the new page to find all external links. I was referred to you by legoktm (from #mediawiki freenode IRC). legoktm mentioned that you maintain a spam watching bot that extracts out new outgoing links from pages on an ongoing basis and it'd be great to piggyback of the list you generate. Can you help me gain access to this list? Update: Generating this list at our end. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.181.222.164 (talk) 06:59, 13 September 2013 (UTC) Thanks, 208.70.31.249 (talk) 19:11, 3 September 2013 (UTC)Vinay Goel
I restored the content to the status it had for yearsI have removed the two additional links and restored the status to that which existed before this whole kerfuffle. Please revert your last revert. Please make any further comments in the section on article talk. 71.127.131.41 (talk) 04:16, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
WarningHi Beetstra! Sir you recently give me a warning:- Warning for Pasting links in Wikipedia For not paste extra links to wikipedia. I want to know when i will allowed to paste links in Wikipedia. Now i not paste links again and again. Sir please help to know when this warning is dismiss. Thankyou — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sachinjangra0 (talk • contribs) 10:32, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
Hi Beeststra! Thanks for help Now, if i paste the link of blogspot again in other article, the blog get blacklisted by Wikipedia or from Search Engine. Help me to get rid out from these problems. Also tell me how can i got, that my URL is matched with Wikipedia Reliable Sources and i will allowed to paste links on Wikipedia. Can you delete my site URL from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Spam/LinkReports or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Spam/Local/apnasiraspur.blogspot.in Can they get automatically deleted from Wikipedia. Sir i request you to get these URL removed by Wikipedia or they get block. Help me Sir, Beetstra Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sachinjangra0 (talk • contribs) 19:29, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
Talkback![]() Message added 22:48, 23 September 2013 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the ((Talkback)) or ((Tb)) template. —cyberpower ChatOffline 22:48, 23 September 2013 (UTC) I am inviting you to comment here, since you work regularly with blacklists.—cyberpower ChatOnline 16:27, 24 September 2013 (UTC)
Talkback![]() Message added 14:39, 25 September 2013 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the ((Talkback)) or ((Tb)) template. GregJackP Boomer! 14:39, 25 September 2013 (UTC) MediaWiki_talk:Spam-whitelistI'm wondering - Where is the new section link at MediaWiki_talk:Spam-whitelist ? Why is it missing? Any idea? (I figured out : Where the section edit links on the archives of MediaWiki_talk:Spam-whitelist went… (example)) --Elvey (talk) 02:38, 27 September 2013 (UTC) Bot gone wildYou should read my 1714 30Sep2013 post at “Bot gone wild”.Sammy D III (talk) 18:11, 30 September 2013 (UTC) Chapter for ACS bookHi Beetstra, I sent you an email a while back about a book chapter on Wikipedia chemical data - would you like to contribute? I'm particularly interested in you writing a section on Chemboxes in general and CheMoBot in particular. I didn't hear anything back, so I'm not certain if I have your current email address. The deadline is coming soon, but please reply here if you would like to contribute. I thought it would look good on your CV! Thanks, Walkerma (talk) 13:18, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
Linking to YouTubeIt has been interesting reading your posts at Wikipedia:External links/Noticeboard. At Uncyclopedia, we have the same problem of anonymous users posting "relevant" YouTube videos in articles. You ask why, and my answer is that it is done so that users who are unable to contribute (in our case, to write original comedy) can become "contributors." Spike-from-NH (talk) 21:47, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
Chembox/drugboxHi Dirk. I hope you're doing well. I just thought you might like to see this conversation on my talk page: User_talk:Edgar181#SMILES_vs._smiles. -- Ed (Edgar181) 16:34, 18 October 2013 (UTC) UnBlockBotHi, are you still in charge of UnBlockBot on IRC? I haven't seen it around for quite a while. --Closedmouth (talk) 12:53, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
MappamundiHello, Site [1] has been blacklisted. I don't understand why. I would like to add it in EXTERNAL LINK on pages about Ocean and Planisphere. This site contains neutral and accurate material that is relevant to an encyclopedic understanding of the subject and cannot be integrated into the Wikipedia article due to copyright issues. How to remove it of the black list ? Thank you for your answer 82.234.61.246 (talk) 17:17, 21 October 2013 (UTC) mappamundi@free.fr
Speedy deletion nomination of WikiProject Spam/LinkReports/zappingzone.disney.com.br![]() A tag has been placed on WikiProject Spam/LinkReports/zappingzone.disney.com.br, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done for the following reason: Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not meet basic Wikipedia criteria may be deleted at any time. If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, you can place a request here. Oddbodz (talk) 21:38, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
Arbitrary?I'd like to hear your take on the request at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:Spam-whitelist#rwservices.no-ip.info . Some don't seem to agree that "we do not block because we don't like links, or because they are unusable or because they are unreliable sources." --Elvey (talk) 22:15, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
Wikitech tool labs and perl librariesHi. I have noticed that you have added some perl libraries to the tool labs and I was therefore hoping that you might be able to provide me with some pointers. I am trying to install diberri's template filler on tool labs (under the citation-template-filling project) but I am having some problems accessing a cgi perl script that requires a local perl library that I have installed. The script runs fine from the command line when logged into the server, but when I try to run the cgi script using an external web browser, I get an internal error. This is problem is clearly a perl library access problem since test cgi perl scripts run fine until I try to do anything with the library. Do you have any suggestions? Alternatively do you know of someone else I could contact to solve this problem? Cheers. Boghog (talk) 17:04, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for your feedback. It appears that we may have had different problems. I finally got the template filler to work with locally installed libraries (link is here). The key to getting the template filler to work was to add the following line to the cgi script: use CGI::Carp 'fatalsToBrowser';
Adding this single line gave some very useful feedback that indicated despite using cpanm for the installs, there were a still a few unfulfilled dependencies. After installing these missing modules, the script finally worked. Boghog (talk) 13:53, 3 November 2013 (UTC) Nomination for deletion of Template:Chembox new header
Silk Road spamming?Hi Beetstra,
data re paid advocacy?Hi, as you know, there are conversations going on about paid advocacy. Some people say "we have to act this is a huge problem throughout Wikipedia!" and others say "this is SO not a big deal." We all suffer from a lack of data. So I am come here asking: do you keep any kind of data from COIbot that could help the community have a grounded-in-reality discussion about the extent of paid advocacy and COI editing? It would be really great to be able to say something like: X% of edits to Wikipedia are tendentious; Y% of those are from paid advocates" or the like. That would be the super-juicy data bringing together COI and content policies. I initially posted this to STiki and they kindly directed me here. In addition, it would be great to know of anything else that would help cast light on the discussion. Thank you!Jytdog (talk) 16:19, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
I can live with the idea of totally banning paid advocacy (hey, I have blocked and de facto banned SEOs, spammers, and blacklisted their promotional material for years now) .. but I don't think that it is that easily to distinguish from paid editing per sé. Regarding a 'university professor who is encouraged to edit by a university as a part of public service', we just had a discussion regarding a university person who was blatantly promoting his stuff (socking and all) - try to figure out whether he was .. encouraged by the university or not. --Dirk Beetstra T C 11:11, 21 November 2013 (UTC) Whether or not that banned editor I am talking about was encouraged .. his editing was inappropriate. --Dirk Beetstra T C 11:12, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
Just wanted to add .. paid editing and paid advocacy are two distinctly different things, and in basis are separated - the former is fine, the latter should be banned, blocked, eliminated, as it is in complete violation of our core policies (WP:NOT, WP:NPOV etc.). However, in reality, they are very difficult to separate, and even more difficult to detect where they are operating. Is the university professor an advocate or an editor, and is the news-paper journalist an editor or an advocate, or the SEO-employee, is he an advocate or an editor? Where is the distinction between User:John Doe123456 and User:Company Employee 123456 - the latter may be a neutral editor, the former a POV-pusher. --Dirk Beetstra T C 10:43, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
@Jytdog: Regarding paid advocacy and their tendency to return and push on - they are unstoppable, please see User talk:MER-C#Agora (including creating articles which in itself are notable and probably stay, so they even meet their goals ..). I think it is great that Jimbo wants to ban paid advocacy, but just having a policy forbidding it, and a 'cease and desist' is by far not enough, I think there is a task for the foundation there to act when cases are brought to their attention by editors - I wonder if they would or could. --Dirk Beetstra T C 07:40, 28 November 2013 (UTC) or maybe you prefer the nutshell version?
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why was my revisions deletedI am new to this and the page is quite old and needs updating. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Endotoxintestsolutions (talk • contribs) 17:48, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
Hi Dirk Thanks for getting back to me. I am not sure how to proceed. The information I added is on new technology without using horseshoe crabs that is accepted as an alternative to the FDA. I did not put product information or company information in the description. As a reference I added my website but can easily remove that and place a referenced article as I had done in one instance. If you could let me know what I need to remove or if you could for me I would greatly appreciate it. I am not a spammer. Thanks Robert — Preceding unsigned comment added by Endotoxintestsolutions (talk • contribs) 18:19, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
Thanks Dirk, I will change my user name. I will forward information directly to you first for review before I submit anything that is referenced by a 3rd party. Hope you have a Happy New Year and I apologize for wasting your time today. Take care Robert — Preceding unsigned comment added by Endotoxintestsolutions (talk • contribs) 19:49, 1 January 2014 (UTC) Jarre obituaryHello Dirk. I repeated my question at the send of our Jarre discussion. Not sure you have answered it! If you do, please do so there, not here. Hope you enjoy life in KSA: I have visited SABIC in Riyad several times. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.155.167.22 (talk) 21:39, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
AlkeneHi Dirk... I notice that several posts in the ongoing alkene discussion imply that the gold book is consistent with a broad interpretation of the term, and that this arises from text outside the quoted section. I would appreciate being pointed more specifically to the relevant text, if you don't mind. Thank. EdChem (talk) 01:23, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
Request for the Review of Content in Spam-whitelist PageHello sir, My name is Srikanth. I am Contributing to English version of Wiki for more than One and half Year. I am in a Trouble sir :( i.e., I added the Content to the Page : MediaWiki_talk:Spam-whitelist#filmgola.com.2Fmovie.2F 2 Months ago. But Sadly no User nor Admin given their Replies. So that my Humble request is : If you have Free time, Please See that Content and Give your Reply Sir:) Actually i Requested Some Admins but no use. So i am Eagerly Waiting for your Response Sir. Thank you for Reading this Patiently :) Regards, Raghusri (talk) 13:18, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
Move request - Phosphoric acids and phosphatesIt looks like there is no problem with my suggested move of Phosphoric acids and phosphates to Phosphoric acids. If you are cool with this, can you please make that move. On the weekend or before, I will repair the contents. Thanks, --Smokefoot (talk) 18:49, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
periodic tablesPlease look at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Elements#Element infobox and comment if you wish.Petergans (talk) 10:51, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
CavinKareplease help me with this page am not able to identify the mistake in this — Preceding unsigned comment added by Revathy Iyer (talk • contribs) 10:58, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
Errors in the spam-whitelist logHi again. MediaWiki talk:Spam-whitelist/Log has a couple of errors.
I could fix minor stuff like this if you don't mind lowering the protection of the log to WP:template editor level. Thanks, Wbm1058 (talk) 16:24, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
Odd linksHi Beetstra, User:wnt has created Spamblacklist/Log because of COIbot creating links to it. Any chance you know what is going on here? John Vandenberg (chat) 08:03, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
Further correctionPer this diff
removal of new page - guidance requestedhi, i spent a lot of time creating a new page which you deleted earlier today. it appears it was deleted due to Reason "G11" - however, i had not yet finished writing it and was going to add the appropriate external sources to validate the bio i had written on myself. I have sources from the WSJ and other online properties which have highlighted my work including numerous awards, however i had not gotten there yet. I used Mary Meeker, Peter Coffee and Guy Kawasaki as guidelines on my bio as they are also in my field which is why i was surprised it got deleted so quickly. is there anything i can do to fix/adjust the page and get it back online? As the market has labled me a thought leader in my space (not my words) i wanted to have my bio in wikipedia. any assistance you can provide me would be GREATLY appreciated. Tiffani Bova — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tbova (talk • contribs) 21:38, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
There has been a lot of back-and-forth warring over "Uncyclopedia", with Wikipedia editors with vested interests in both the old site at Wikia.com and the newer independent site attempting to shape the Wikipedia article to suit their outlooks. On the Wikia side, this consists of User:Spike-from-NH (who is currently an administrator at that site!) and (although not recently) User:PuppyOnTheRadio. On the independent side, there are at least three, including two who are directly involved in the upkeep of the independent site, namely User:Isarra and User:Legoktm. I would like to request that you (or any suitable admin) please tell all of these knuckleheads to knock it off, in the interest of objectivity. People who have direct stakes in the successes of these sites and who are this hard-headed should not be editing the article about their sites. Also, can someone please come to an independent, objective decision as to the inclusion of URLs in the article? The fact is, when the community started a "fork" of the site, five users stayed exclusively at the Wikia-hosted site, while the majority of the active users (including at least five administrators) either moved exclusively to the independent site, or joined the new site and continued to edit both. User:Spike-from-NH seems determined to prevent any mention of the independent site. If this is to continue, I would recommend that all references to current domains are removed from the article. Lastly, I don't understand why the word "fork" is being used in the article; the linked definition of "fork" deals with software projects, not necessarily literary projects. "Fork", as it is used, is a euphemism coined by Wikia. Can words be defined by fiat? 2601:1:C100:306:587D:563E:BF2E:F565 (talk) 00:31, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
EditsMy name is David Jansen. I am member of the board of directors of the National Polish American Sports Hall of Fame. You sent me a message recently that you are removing some of my edits to individuals that we have elected to our hall of fame. Why? I thought I had the proper reference identified when posting the edits> — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jansend (talk • contribs) 16:18, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
refsupsHi there, re this: if you had replaced the tag pairs <sup>...</sup> with <ref>...</ref> footnotes/references, your addition of the ((reflist)) template would have worked. I boldly did just that :-) - Cheers - DVdm (talk) 13:08, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
LynxHello, long time no speak! How's it going? I had an OTRS email from a guy at Lynx (transportation) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views); ref ticket:2014012610006873. They seem to have a valid concern re content, I have asked the respondent to contact you for help as you are one of the safest pairs of hands on the project. I hope this is OK with you. Guy (Help!) 11:45, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
Entry in the whitelistGoedendag Dirk! Hoe gaat het ermee? (translation, for stalkers) As you are one of the guys maintaining the whitelist, could you take a look at my request if you have a spare minute? That would be great! Cheers, theFace 12:06, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
Request for the Reason Behind Adding Mapsofworld.com in Wiki Spam List - Revision as of 09:45, 16 October 2007
Hello Beetstra, Hope you are doing well. :) I have a request, kindly provide me the reason behind adding Mapsofworld.com to spam list. So, I can able to correct or improve my website for the same and got our website removed from wiki spam-list.
Pramod Sharma Executive at Mapsofworld.com Pramod210 (talk) 05:48, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
Wemoni
Wemoni (talk · contribs), a user you blocked almost two years ago as a SOA, has requested unblock and says he'll edit productively. It's been a while and I'm willing for us to give him a break. Any thoughts from you? Daniel Case (talk) 20:09, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
Nebraska gubernatorial electionPlease clarify your statements and actions at Talk:Nebraska gubernatorial election, 2014#Linkfarm . Thank you. 71.23.178.214 (talk) 14:27, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
Answered your question in wp:eln, and asked a questionYou write "what does that have to do with tea in general"? Well, all tea (from the camellia sinensis plant) contains Teanine, which is the chemical responsible for the brain wave effect. It is probably the primary reason people drink tea, so yes, I think it is necessary for the understanding of the subject tea. Without the video, it would be hard to legally show that picture showing the effect on brain waves. It won't be included ion wiki. How about NutritionFacts.org at the end of the Healthy Diet article? Look at the huge Health Topics list (certainly not something that could be reproduced inside the article).32cllou (talk) 08:46, 19 February 2014 (UTC) [[25]]32cllou (talk) 10:26, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
Of links and teaHi. I'm sticking this on your talk page because I'm afraid of further muddling an already muddled discussion on the noticeboard. From your latest comment there, I get the sense that you're confusing me with someone else who participated earlier in the thread. I jumped into the discussion a few days ago offering a second opinion that completely supported what you'd already said (and expanded on it a little, trying to frame it in a way that might be more understandable to the editor who wanted to include the inappropriate link). Since that time, you've accused me of making unfounded accusations, and now you're offering me advice about "getting material . . . on Wikipedia" that I've already indicated doesn't belong on Wikipedia. Please take a few minutes to review who said what in the thread, because you're preaching to the choir. Rivertorch (talk) 14:41, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
In response to an Original Research tag by David Gerard, I made a deletion that seems to support your goals for this article, and which is continuing to catch hell. You might like to visit the talk page again. Spike-from-NH (talk) 12:20, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
Encyclopedia DramaticaRecently, ED switched from encyclopediadramatica.se to encyclopediadramatica.es, placing the old ".se" URL leading to the about page to nothing. It was near impossible to give a proper link, since the new .es URL is blacklisted. Why do we keep the old URL, even though it dosen't work? UmJamLam (talk) 00:10, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
Wikidata needs dataHello, I thing you are the right guy I need so I contact you directly. I am looking for the Excel file containing the different databases ID (PubChem CID, CAS number,...) for the chemicals in WP:en. I am trying to get similar lists from the different WPs in order to create an unique list which will be used as raw database for an import in wikidata. The first step is to identify each item in WD about chemical and we want to use PubChem CID for that. Once we can identify each chemicals we will extract data from PubChem database and import them into WD. So I will need the list of chemicals in WP:en with the associated Q number (wikidata identifier), CAS number, PubChem CID and the english chemical name. I have already that list list from the WP:fr and I requested the same from WP:de. Thanks for your help. Snipre (talk) 11:55, 26 March 2014 (UTC) cbronline.comHi Dirk. Looks like the guys from Kable are working hard to add links to Wikipedia. I posted my report on this link. Just giving you a heads up as I posted on the middle of the page... not sure how to do those reports. Thanks! Legionarius (talk) 03:13, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
Malformed entry?He Beetstra, in this edit, it looks like your entry for \bwater-technology\b.net\b is malformed (an extra \b) unless I'm missing some regex subtlety. OhNoitsJamie Talk 14:52, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
Spam-blacklistI see you added mining-technology.com to the spam-blacklist, as part of a larger effort to remove spam. Just letting you know I have requested a removal (or modification to the blacklisted link) here. --kelapstick(bainuu) 12:45, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
First, Kable and CBROnline are clearly related, so that stands. Secondly, whether it is Kable/CBROnline or a competitor is not an issue for Wikipedia, we are supposed to stop the disruption to Wikipedia, not to support their businesses. I'll look further at the discussions - but the abuse of Wikipedia has to stop. --Dirk Beetstra T C 07:46, 6 April 2014 (UTC) Does this list of reports need to be kept around? Or can it be deleted? --Metropolitan90 (talk) 03:02, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
Arbitration clarification (Rich Farmbrough bot issue)An arbitration clarification request(Rich Farmbrough bot issue), either involving you, or in which you participated has been archived, because the bot request has been withdrawn. The original discussion can be found here. For the arbitration committee --S Philbrick(Talk) 14:38, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
msds-cas.comHi Dirk. Thanks for blacklisting cas-msds.com and cas-no.org. But as you predicted, the IP (61.171.24.98 (talk · contribs)) that tried to remove the meta report has started spamming a similar new domain, msds-cas.com. Could you please blacklist that one too? -- Ed (Edgar181) 13:02, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
Acetic acidWhat part of the reaction mechanism indicates that OH is the primary site of reaction? Do you understand how the reaction mechanism differs from the heuristic interpretation? Plasmic Physics (talk) 11:22, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
CyclopentadienylI know that you are not unfamiliar with the editing guidelines, so would you care to explain why you are steamrolling my edits, unwilling to discuss your difference in opinion? Plasmic Physics (talk) 11:25, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
(e.c.) Hi Dirk, I have mentioned PP's above post in comments at the WikiProject discussion, and didn't echo you. I figure you'll see, but just in case you don't, I'm letting you know. :) EdChem (talk) 14:03, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
May 2014
It's OK to remove this message. Also, to stop receiving these messages, follow these opt-out instructions. Thanks, BracketBot (talk) 05:10, 13 May 2014 (UTC) Collabro - Link RemovalThanks for drawing my attention to the issue with the external links on this page; for some reason I thought Twitter accounts were acceptable if they were the "official" account of the individual or group in question but now I can't find where I thought I read that! The query I have relates to the YouTube video; as far as I can tell this is OK, as it's not possible to include it in the article, it's licenced from the programme maker so no copyright issue and it's relevant to the subject. Can you please clarify? Many thanks! --Rachel P. (talk) 00:52, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
Het spijt me Dirk, but I did not understand why you removed that content. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 18:43, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
In re PP edit controversyWhat you will see at the following link was written at the time of your long discuss with PP, but I just discovered it as not posted. Despite the elapsed time, because of the ire/stubborness on both sides, I decided to post it anyway. See my interspersed italic comments, and then the final proposal. You are the second most important party needed to agree—mostly needed is PP of course. But if you do not, either before him, or after him, with a simple "I can agree to these things", then I think the conflict will inevitably re-emerge. Note, in the interspersed comments at the site, after PP himself, you are the one individual that I am hardest on. This is in part because I perceive you the most knowledgable and mature, and can take direct speech, but also because while you and I appear to agree on some things—e.g., that arguing the oxygen atom to which proton is attached is "angels on the head of a pin", in light of modern research—we perhaps disagree on others. The two main points of contention, looking back, seemed to be that you kept making statements:
As well, as you will see, I utterly reject a lexicographic approach to determining encyclopedic priorities, as you seemed to be arguing. Too many people know about the disgusting Santorum neologism, and that does not make it important or noteworthy, in any fundamental sense; it is simply a construct of a modern "gaming" of the commercial search tool Google. And the fact that no one has heard of Teruaki Mukaiyama (such that there is no biographical article for him at Wikipedia), or that no one understands the fundamental importance of whether theory and experiment come together in their predictions and observations over the delocaliztion of remaining electrons in the cyclopentadienyl radical (see for instance [27])—these do not matter a whit to me. People that know chemistry the most deeply, know that these are substantive subjects, and substantive subjects deserve encyclopedic coverage. But maybe we agree on these things, and I am misunderstanding your responses to PP. In any case, in going over it all thoroughly, I propose a way forward, that I think all should be able to agree on. It is here, after the interspersed italicised comments that I (thought I) offered during the course of the discussion: [28]. Cheers, hope you can agree to the proposal, and respect your involvement. Le Prof Leprof 7272 (talk) 20:19, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
Jmol models in ChemboxLooks like you were involved in adding it...do you have any recollection about their setup? See Template talk:Chembox#Upgrading external jmol. DMacks (talk) 14:01, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
OTBEThis might not be true any longer; I believe that mentioning DMOZ by name was removed last week (or thereabouts). (not watching this page) WhatamIdoing (talk) 05:23, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
Further input still appreciatedAt Wikipedia:External_links/Noticeboard#Honorverse_wikia. In particular, you were cited at Talk:Honorverse#Can_we_link_honorverse.wikia.com_from_external_links.3F and we still disagree there, even with regards to which position your comments support. Any help in breaking this deadlock would be appreciated, --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 12:27, 29 June 2014 (UTC) Spam-whitelist requestHi Beetstra. I've seen your (tireless) contributions over at MediaWiki talk:Spam-whitelist for some months now, and wonder if I could ask for some attention at a smashinginterviews.com page I've nominated there. Quadell was kind enough to add his vote of confidence, but with so much time time having elapsed since then, I'm wondering when the page might get the green light, or not as the case may be. Apologies if this request is somewhat presumptuous – feel free to put me in my place, if so! JG66 (talk) 17:54, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
GCaptain.com
I am trying to figure out how to find the justification for putting GCaptain.com on the blacklist. I can see from User talk:Gcaptain that there were some warnings there. I see a warning from you. I don't see any warnings however that that the site will be put on a blacklist. Nor can I find any discussion elsewhere on blacklisting the site. If there was a discussion, can you help me find it? It seems to me that if there was a misunderstanding over how the editor of that site should comply with our conflict of interest policies that should not bar other contributors from using articles from the site. It is a good site. The editor is a serious person. He may not rise to wikipedia level notability but other sites, like the United States Naval Institute, reprint some of his articles. So, can you help me out? Thanks Geo Swan (talk) 03:55, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
wp:elI can't see any rational for this removal - https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Malton_and_Driffield_Junction_Railway&diff=615777229&oldid=615607947 the link was a valid, legitimate, directly related historical film about the subject . Prof.Haddock (talk) 16:53, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
Edited dead linkHello, Just wanted to know what is the problem with my edit on this post https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transport_in_Ipswich. I've just fixed dead link and replaced it with working one. Thanks in advice ) — Preceding unsigned comment added by MrGarkaviy (talk • contribs) 14:29, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
I found that dead link and spent some time by rewriting the original source so Wikipedia will have less dead links. I think nothing wrong with that, or am I wrong? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MrGarkaviy (talk • contribs) 06:56, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
That was what I did. I just a little rewrited some points to make it not copy paste due to copywriting rights. But you can't find that post live anymore, I mean original and in this case you have only two options to deal with dead link: remove the reference from Wiki or rewrite, copy from original source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MrGarkaviy (talk • contribs) 07:17, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
I took it via web archive. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MrGarkaviy (talk • contribs) 07:24, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
Is it possible to leave the original near the working link I created? For example reference to the new link and near it link to the original source in case it comes back online again? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MrGarkaviy (talk • contribs) 07:39, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
Well, I still think that there is nothing wrong with fixing dead link in this way. Wikipedia is looking for the right references and many old articles have references to non existing pages. I did not change the article just found a way to show the text that potential visitors want to see --MrGarkaviy (talk) 08:52, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
I'm not sure that many people and visitors of Wikipedia know about archive tool. What if it would be 100% version of the original article and not rewrite?--MrGarkaviy (talk) 09:07, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
Preciouschemistry --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:54, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
FancienancI need help editing my page. I don't know how to add my references or imdb listing for external links. My biography is written but I don't want it deleted and I have just as much if not more information in the category Hollywood Agents. So can you please help me? Nancy Abt as page Fancienanc Fancienanc (talk) 08:52, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
Disambiguation link notification for August 18Hi. Thank you for your recent edits. Wikipedia appreciates your help. We noticed though that when you edited List of Wu-Tang Clan affiliates, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page Infinite. Such links are almost always unintended, since a disambiguation page is merely a list of "Did you mean..." article titles. Read the FAQ • Join us at the DPL WikiProject. It's OK to remove this message. Also, to stop receiving these messages, follow these opt-out instructions. Thanks, DPL bot (talk) 09:14, 18 August 2014 (UTC) SynctoolHi Dirk, Thanks for commenting on the Synctool article. I'd like to improve the page to meet quality standards, but I'd welcome some insights on for instance which parts of the page you would characterize as advertisement-styled. Could you have a look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Synctool please? Thanks in advance! -- Onno Zweers (talk) 10:06, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
Jami FerrellDear Beestra, I am flattered you took an interest in updating my information recently. Considering your limited internet access time, your busy world traveling, limited time in general and your chemistry studies (reluctant though you are to get into that subject with others), I am curious to know why you chose to use your very limited internet time to update wikipedia on an old American lawsuit that had nothing to do with you, your country, your fellow citizens, or any land upon which you have ever stepped foot. You have interesting timing. Producers of an American tv show contacted me within a month of your lawsuit update. Curious coincidence, is it not? One might almost think my Wikipedia information was being groomed for something. That wouldn't be very ethical reporting would it? I do hope you show more care when working with your chemicals than you do when providing information to wikipedia. Haphazard work can sometimes blow up in your face. Sincerely, Jam iFerrell — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:D:D300:53C:F19E:1E3:688F:633D (talk) 12:53, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
Dirk Beestra, I have added/edited nothing on wikipedia except openly addressing you here and writing to wikipedia for permission to use my real name. I have no clue as to what links and pages you are referring. I am questioning you not about removed information but rather the inaccurate information that remains. You are listed as adding information in June of this year about a random lawsuit that occurred 3 years ago. The executive producer of an American show, "America Greed," contacted me within one month of your adding the information they plan to highlight on their upcoming season. I have the e-mail from Mike West to prove that. Based upon the information you provided here about yourself- your interest and pursuits, your lack of time and your limited internet access, none of that information provides any clues as to why you would take any interest in a random bankruptcy case occurring in America years ago. I openly questioned your motives for the recent edit and you avoided the question. Knowing very little about wikipedia I began researching it today so I could learn how to correct the misinformation. If push came to shove, I have no doubt wikipedia could prove through IP addresses that I have never made an edit or submitted material of any kind to wikipedia's published information. I would assume through your statement, "... brought the whole of the page in line with 'our standards'..." that you are connected with wikipedia enough to be able to verify who made the mysterious edits to which you refer. One would hope, if you do work with wikipedia, you would show greater care validating your accusations before publishing them. The information you and others have provided under my name is incorrect and will be updated.
Ultimately, considering what little information is provide of my life, very little care has been given to real, easily obtained facts. You were clearly not motivated by a drive for accuracy in recently updating my information. I was not surprised to read many edits and additions to wikipedia are hired out for personal motives. Frankly, that would coincide well with the timing and motives of tv producers wishing to add validity to salacious claims they soon plan to release about the life you were "editing." Your timing was a little too close to producers interest, within one month of a 3 year old case. I am humble enough to realize my life is of very little importance to the general public. Considering your limited time and limited internet access, shouldn't there have been more important subjects worthy of your attention and editing skills? Sincerely, Jami Ferrell — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:D:D300:53C:F19E:1E3:688F:633D (talk) 18:05, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
My sincerest apologies, Beetstra. I am new to the inner workings of Wikipedia. Going back to the page's history, on June 30th, 2014, Beetstra's name was tied to the new input regarding the lawsuit. If I now understand it correctly, Igorebraga added that misinformation at an earlier date and Beetstra simply approved it on June 30th, 2014. That being the case, I was certainly wrong in my assumptions and again heartily apologize to Beetstra. A most sincere thank you is also in order to the individual(s) that removed the questionable lawsuit information. That was very gracious considering I erroneously attacked Beetstra. I hesitate to bring it up as you have been more than accommodating with me but you guys have my dating history all wrong too. I married Sam Simon in September of 2003 and divorced in 2004. He followed Hefner/Nicholson (they were late '90s). If, while you're in the cutting mode and know where to find me, you would want to just wipe out my entire romantic history that would be fantastic (clearly that hasn't gone so well either). ;) If not, no worries, I will go through the proper editing channels like the rest of the world. Thank you again and best wishes to all of you at Wikipeida. Jami Ferrell — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:D:D300:53C:68F7:D4CF:D2DB:35E2 (talk) 21:58, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
Dear Dirk Beetstra, You have responded far more appropriately and considerately than most when faced with bizarre and unfounded accusations. Had I made more effort familiarizing myself with the situation all confusion and my regrettable blunders could have been avoided. Reading more carefully through your exchanges with others in the field of chemistry, I see that I was mistaken with that assessment as well. I found you to be quite sharp in general and capable of handling the subject with skill and ease. I do appreciate your patience and assistance. Yours, with many thanks, Jami Ferrell — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:D:D300:53C:68F7:D4CF:D2DB:35E2 (talk) 14:22, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
mefk81 UserspaceDear Dirk Beetstra, You deleted a subpage of my usertalkspace: User:Mefk81/ResearchDescription. This was not intended as abuse, but as a Sandbox use. We are researchers, who interact with Wikipedia Foundation. We want to transfer information that is present in "the larger" languages but missing in the "smaller" ones. In a pilot it has turned out that a page that describes our aims and methods would be needed, when Wikipedians push back on our activity and I intended to create this page in my Sandbox. However, I did not notice that this works differently than in the German Wikipedia, which is why I failed to create the page in the Sandbox directly. I am happy to move the text to the sandbox, but I was wondering if you could make it available for me again. Best Mefk81 (talk) 12:12, 29 August 2014 (UTC) One afterthought: If you think English Userspaces cannot be used for that I can also shift the content to the German site, but please give me back the content... ;-) Mefk81 (talk) 12:14, 29 August 2014 (UTC)
blacklistHi Dirk. I'm wondering if this request has been overlooked. It's been there three weeks and two later requests have been addressed. Thanks for all your work there. Spicemix (talk) 12:55, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
DiffsWhy would you revert my putting your sloppy diffs into a more readable format? We do not want "bare links", especially on highly visible pages like AN/I. Doc talk 06:46, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
Leave the bare links up then. It looks sloppy as hell. Horribly, unprofessionally sloppy for an AN/I thread, really. Just to let you know. Cheers. Doc talk 09:38, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
There have been no insults whatsoever. Srsly? Time to learn the markup language in an edit summary is an actual insult to one of the 400 most active Wikipedians? A personal attack, even? Thicken your skin! Get over yourself! I did a long time ago. Happy trails :> Doc talk 10:51, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
HWPlease, leave it for me and Ianmacm, we are talking about this link and I fixed his notes it is not vandalizing Akemaschite (talk) 07:01, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
Promotional POV articleHaving problem with the article, Aadhaar, since its main editor(SPA) recently got active. I had raised this issue on ANI, but thread got archived.[29] What you think? Note that article is originally a redirect. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 06:57, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
ChemspiderciteHi, I've started some documentation for ((Chemspidercite)), which you created. Please will you check and improve it? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 08:46, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
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I moved one of your commentsHello. I hope it is okay, but I moved a comment you made to Talk:Last_Exit_on_Brooklyn#External_links. If you object and want it back where you placed it then ping me and say so, but I wanted to direct all conversation to where it already had started. Thanks. Blue Rasberry (talk) 14:03, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
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Rune BennickeHello Beetstra! I've seen your message, and made edits Please don't hesitate to contact me if anything else needs to be done. Thanks! Tiffanychinsim (talk) 11:40, 20 October 2014 (UTC)
Adding multiple UNII's to a pageHi Dirk I was wondering how we can add multiple UNIIs to the chembox with parenthetical info. For example in the glucose box we may want to add a unii for .alpha.-glucose or .beta.glucose etc and indicate this in parenthesis There may be a way to do it in the current layout but it is not obvious to me. I notice there are sometimes multiple cas numbers and I tried something similar with UNIIs but it did not seem to work. Thanks Larry Callahan lawrence.callahan@fda.hhs.gov — Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.148.14.8 (talk) 13:56, 24 October 2014 (UTC) October 2014
It's OK to remove this message. Also, to stop receiving these messages, follow these opt-out instructions. Thanks, BracketBot (talk) 03:41, 28 October 2014 (UTC) Contemporary Artist BiosAppreciate the evaluation for the Milan Zrnic page. I’m an educator in Europe and felt compelled to create a page for Zrnic when I discovered he has very little online presence. He is extremely respected in several industries and has clearly chosen to remain private with regards to online press and online documentation. This actually seems to be a trend with emerging artists. Is there a way cultural figures like him can have accessible and encyclopedic biographies without internet-specific press? I know it would help several students engage with a contemporary curriculum. In the art world, credits and affiliations are essentially citations—if only because most artists are associated with movements and styles. It is uncommon to have a newspaper article or cultural institution specifically profile an artist unless they have reached a mature stage of their career. Perhaps this is why the verbiage in my page skews promotional? I was hoping to add several artist pages like Zrnic's, but now feel discouraged with the negative feedback. Stephenphoto (talk) 21:45, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
Disambiguation link notification for November 6Hi. Thank you for your recent edits. Wikipedia appreciates your help. We noticed though that when you edited Simone Cipriani, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page Karen Walker. Such links are almost always unintended, since a disambiguation page is merely a list of "Did you mean..." article titles. Read the FAQ • Join us at the DPL WikiProject. It's OK to remove this message. Also, to stop receiving these messages, follow these opt-out instructions. Thanks, DPL bot (talk) 16:15, 6 November 2014 (UTC) --Dirk Beetstra T C 12:25, 26 November 2014 (UTC) Duplicate use of a parameterI am checking & editing ((Chembox)) and ((Drugbox)) for parameters used twice (see CAT:DUPARG). E.g.: ChEBI. I wonder how to help the bot in this. I must assume that the bot to can mistake/mixup one two parameter+value used of the two. (For example, when the second instance is edited, the bot misses it because it sees no diff in the first param=value instance; so the _Ref note is not bot updated). When doing those edits, must I change the setting (arguments) of the affected ((_cite|)) template? (how or what?) Anything else? -DePiep (talk) 14:29, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
Your Deletion of Architecture AdvocacyMay we inquire why You felt that Architecture Advocacy deserves to be deleted? It is a legitimate, non-commercial organization with an advocacy for the built environment and for ethical professional practices in the Philippines (which is opening its doors to an economic integration with neighboring countries/ economies next year). And yet, we find on Wikipedia, a number of similar professional organizations as well as commercial enterprises like banks which are profit centers. Does Your decision have to do with the format of the article or perhaps part of the content? We shall welcome Your comment and advice the soonest that these are made available to us. Thank You very much. Warm regards, AAIF (Manila) Architecture Advocacy (talk) 05:59, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
Some bot quirksIn my recent AWB edits in {Chembox} and {Drugbox}, I met some curious situations that could be CheMoBot-related.
| StdInChI = StdInChI_Ref = ((stdinchicite|correct|chemspider))
((Chembox | Watchedfields = changed |Watchedfields = changed| verifiedrevid = ... (Note: always appears without newline (
(No diff saved; from my memory it looked like this): | StdInChI_Ref = ((inchicite|correct|chemspider))= | ... Point is that the end of line =-sign is unexpected. No harm.
In my recent 850+ AWB edits in ((Drugbox)) and ((Chembox)), I met these dozens but not hundreds of times. They were edited out. They could be very old, and already may be prevented in improved bot code. They cause no issue with me, I'm just noting them for you. (I will not follow or continue this thread, unless you ask me something). -DePiep (talk) 14:48, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
Norayr MnatsakanyanHello Beetstra, I am the biographer of this Armenian singer, Norayr Mnatsakanyan. I have all the materials and manuscripts, but some are in the Armenian language. Please, help me cite them appropriately. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Noki (talk • contribs) 22:24, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
Well, I want to explain to you. The videos included are ABOUT the subject, introducing the subject's life and activity. There is no copyright violation because all the materials are publicly available in wide circulation. They are not in English. I am an unbiased contributor to Wikipedia; however, I write on subjects I have expertise on. Please, help me reestablish the Links section for "Norayr Mnatsakanyan" because all proper cite information is available. I need your help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Noki (talk • contribs) 22:38, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
ThanksI was totally confused of where to report the spam link problem. Thanks for helping! -- Magioladitis (talk) 15:58, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
COIBot report at MfDPlease see WP:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject Spam/LinkReports/esybuy.com. Johnuniq (talk) 09:17, 13 December 2014 (UTC)
New parameters in {Chembox} for the botFollowing this talk (you are in), I plan to add new parameters to ((Chembox)). I am asking if you can add them to the botlist for checking. Note that it is not definitive yet. Currently there are six parameters For the article editor: they have those two available, plus their supporting parameters _url, _Comment, _Ref. Deeper within the template (in ((Chembox Identifiers))), I'm managing them. If these inner workings could matter to the bot, please tell me. Can you add them to the botlist for ((chembox)) (once we have decided to add them)? And, do you have a preferred sequence: add to bot first, or template changes go live first? -DePiep (talk) 15:17, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
Verification of indexed parametersNow about the bot checks & validation of the numbered params and box verification (verified revid) you mention. Note that this process is independent of a prior addition of more numbered parameters (= params with index >=1).
External links in the English article on Legio II Traiana Fortis.Hi! Why did you remove the external links to the websites of two reenacment groups? Although this article is about the real legio II Traiana Fortis, those links might provide readers with interesting information. Reenactment groups use reliable sources, either ancient or current, to explain and reenact History, and their websites allow people to see how Roman soldiers fought or how they looked like for instance... Other articles, in English, Spanish, etc., on Roman legions (p.e. Legio XXI Rapax) have these websites among the external links showed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aquiles77 (talk • contribs) 20:47, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
Fair enough. Then, am I allowed to remove any external link to a reenactment group website that I see in an article on Roman legions? --Aquiles77 (talk) 16:32, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
Bot formatting requestsCheMoBot adds _Ref parameters like this | Section1 = ((Chembox Identifiers | ChemSpiderID = 217 | ChemSpiderID_Ref = ((chemspidercite|correct|chemspider)) | StdInChI_Ref = ((stdinchicite|correct|chemspider)) | StdInChI = 1S/H3N/h1H3 )) 1. This _Ref alignment (spacing) is not helpful when I look into the article code.
I propose to remove/not-add the extra space.
2. The sequence with StdInChI is not clear. We expect a sub-parameter (dependent) to be following. That way, the human eye recognises similar parameter names. Like this | Section1 = ((Chembox Identifiers | ChemSpiderID = 217 | ChemSpiderID_Ref = ((chemspidercite|correct|chemspider)) | StdInChI = 1S/H3N/h1H3 | StdInChI_Ref = ((stdinchicite|correct|chemspider)) )) Or, if single-space is more common, we better apply that as standard | Section1 = ((Chembox Identifiers | ChemSpiderID = 217 | ChemSpiderID_Ref = ((chemspidercite|correct|chemspider)) | StdInChI = 1S/H3N/h1H3 | StdInChI_Ref = ((stdinchicite|correct|chemspider)) )) If the choice is open, I'd say single-space everywhere in {chembox} and {drugbox}. I'll have a look at the extra space. It is difficult to detect how many spaces the other parameters use and how many the added parameter should use. I'll see what the code there does. --Dirk Beetstra T C 10:45, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
MediranHi Beetstra! I'm Mediran. I've tagged User:Mediran (alt) for deletion like 2 hours ago and I see that you're the latest active deleting admin. This sounds funny, but will you please delete that for me? Thank you so much and merry Christmas, Beetstra! :-) — Mediran [talk] 07:22, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
External Links on Noonan SyndromeI am responding to your remarks regarding removing my external links to the Noonan Syndrome Foundation and their Facebook links. I am new to Wikipedia, however, according to the user guidelines, it is not acceptable to negatively remark about a user/editor. Your comment about the editor posting "purely for promotion" is just that. Here is Wikipedia's statement regarding this: "Do not make personal attacks anywhere in Wikipedia. Comment on content, not on the contributor. Personal attacks harm the Wikipedia community, and the collegial atmosphere needed to create a good encyclopedia. Derogatory comments about other editors may be removed by any editor. Repeated or egregious personal attacks may lead to sanctions including blocks." I have no affiliation with the foundation but am a person affected by Noonan syndrome. I placed the external links for the foundation as the website is filled with more information on Noonan syndrome symptoms, treatments, medical professionals and clinics who treat people with Noonan syndrome and support groups (where I have been able to talk with others and compare symptoms and treatment) than I have found on here on Wikipedia or on any other website. I thought it would be useful information for others with Noonan syndrome as it was very helpful for me. I will not re-post the Facebook links as they are on their website and maybe a little redundant, however, I was just trying to make the information easier to get to. I am going to re-post the link to the foundation's website though for the reasons listed above. I would appreciate it if in the future that you would not assume the reason behind a post and next time post a question to that user/editor before jumping to conclusions, remarking negatively and/or blocking them. Thank you, Dcba126 (talk) 05:29, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
MediaWiki talk:Spam-whitelistThank you for your good work around MediaWiki talk:Spam-whitelist. This really needs half a dozen or so more admins, of course. What a depressing mess this huge page is. I'm sure that, like me, you have many more attractive alternatives to working on moving old stuff into MediaWiki talk:Spam-whitelist/Archives, but shall we have a go at this anyway? Incidentally, I discovered something interesting after I had (too sleepily) whitelisted a page several hours ago: that some impatient editor seemed to have tired of having material remain blacklisted, and had simply copied a couple of PDFs from a blacklisted site to Google Drive and linked to them there. (See this diff. "Seemed to have", because right now I can't be bothered to examine the article history.) This suggests that Google Drive is open to any kind of copyvio; in view of this and the difficulty (impossibility?) of knowing which bit of Google Drive is whose responsibility, I'm very surprised that links to Google Drive are allowed. -- Hoary (talk) 01:26, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
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