The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Doja Cat and her directors used Blade Runner and The Fifth Element as reference points while making the music video for "Need to Know"?
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I was Googling potential sources for this article, and I couldn't help but notice that alotofsources refer to "Need to Know" as a single. Now, I know that Doja Cat herself has said the song is not a single, but I think that we need to decide between primary and secondary sources here, as they are contradicting each other. I am curious to hear others' opinions on this, especially since these secondary sources usually only present information that has been verified by the label. D🐶ggy54321(let's chat!)03:00, 11 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I saw some sources state that it’s a single as well, but Doja did confirm on her Twitter it’s not the next single. "need to know isn’t even the next single is just some s**t before the next more important single comes out for you to enjoy", and I think the sources were mistaken. DuaLipaFan23951 (talk) 17:38, 11 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
DuaLipaFan23951 Doggy54321, I agree with both of you. The song is technically a single, yet its not as "important" as the rest of the other proper album singles (as confirmed by Doja Cat herself). This, nowadays, basically means its a promo single because its treated like an album track that's released earlier than the rest of the album. Let's wait until it gets serviced to radio before changing it to a single. —cybertrip👽 ( 💬 • 📝) 20:13, 11 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Cybertrip: I agree with you when you say to wait until it gets serviced to radio. If it does get serviced, the song should be listed as a single, as the label gets to choose which songs get promoted where. @DuaLipaFan23951: The sources could be mistaken, or Doja Cat could be the one who is mistaken. At the end of the day, it is up to the label to decide which songs become singles, so if the label always had a plan to promote this song as a single, the sources would have known about it in advance of the general public. Given the choice between the label's word and the artist's word, I would say to trust the label. But, we have no confirmation that the sources get exclusive information from the label, so it is probably best to wait to see if the song starts getting promoted as a single before listing it as a single. Thanks! D🐶ggy54321(let's chat!)03:06, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I would agree that unless it is sent to radio/label confirms it, then we should go by the artist's word. However, it does appear the label has confirmed it as a promo single. In this RCA press release, the label notably never calls it a "single" and instead refers to it as a "track". Heartfox (talk) 05:37, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I work with Walk the Moon articles, and I agree with the notion above. Case in point, the band put out a Spotify playlist that supposedly includes all of their singles, and it does not have any song that was labeled as a track in RCA's press releases unless it got serviced to radio later like "Kamikaze". ThedancingMOONpolice (talk) 06:55, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
Created three days before it was nominated. The article is long enough and neutrally written. There are a little more direct quotes than I would prefer, but I can't see that as a reason to reject it for DYK. It's well-sourced, mainly with music magazines. No copyvio detected. Hook is captivating and short enough. Nominator has fewer than 5 DYK credits, so no QPQ needed. Good to go on my end. Cstickel(byu) (talk) 20:30, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Someone should probably start a section discussing this songs chart run since it debuted top 20 then reached the top 10...3 months later at that. It's a big hit — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.69.153.170 (talk) 03:55, 4 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Add a sentence directly before the release one mentioning when the song was confirmed followed by the teaser
Not done, @K. Peake: not sure what you mean by this. Are you suggesting that the first sentence of the paragraph be moved to directly before the official release sentence? —cybertrip👽 ( 💬 • 📝) 16:46, 3 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
"Commercially, the song reached the top 10" it reached the top 10 in other countries too, so shouldn't you add the number then write, including...? Make sure everything here is written out in the body, though.
Wikilink music video and move the release to the music video section, however the 16 hours part is not sourced
Partly done couldn't find a source for the exact time besides YouTube Data Viewer so I omitted it and wrote "soon after" the midnight single release to give the impression that the two weren't released simultaneously. —cybertrip👽 ( 💬 • 📝) 16:24, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The track listing and album art being announced are not sourced
Cut down the amount of direct quoting from Uproxx after the first sentence; I think it would be better to start a sentence one with "Gracie elaborated that..." putting some into your own words
"She begins to flirt with a man whom she shares a dance with before" → "Doja Cat begins to flirt with a man whom she spends time in the club with, before"
VersaceSpace You should try to fix the remaining issues and regarding The Needle Drop, it is even more unreliable if being used for something like actual comp rather than critical commentary and Forbes contributors are written off at WP:FORBES. --K. Peake07:48, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@VersaceSpace: The reply was not worded well by me since it was routed in the false premise that you had definitely used the fix dead links tool; click on view history and select this option from the far right. --K. Peake06:43, 8 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Not done, not sure what source you're referring to but I assume its Needle Drop. I personally think we can let this slide since it's literally just being used to describe the attribute of a hi-hat sound. I agree with most editors that Fantano's album reviews should not be used as valid, opinionated "reviews" on Wikipedia since they are self-published and unprofessional, but this is not such a case since it's something so specific and rather objective. —cybertrip👽 ( 💬 • 📝) 20:41, 5 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Not done, again, these chart positions being cited here are objective facts and aren't liable to editorial oversight that is warned about in WP:RSP (where it actually is listed as "generally reliable" so I don't see the problem here).
Remove or replace ref 41 with an actual Billboard citation
VersaceSpace Regarding the changes that you are confused about, I meant the release sentence should use "the album" instead of its title which has been fixed now and write August 31 instead, so it is less repetitive. Also, the accolades should be a separate para in reception and written out in prose since one small table is not enough to warrant a full section. --K. Peake09:16, 29 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
VersaceSpace I have further comments for you; why does the Vulture ref not show "Need to Know" when I load it, can you replace the Twitter ref with a citation from Billboard magazine's website and when will you implement the remaining changes? --K. Peake07:46, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Kyle Peake: I've been waiting for Cybertrip to implement some reference changes since they expanded the article, but it seems like he's a bit busy, would waiting for him be okay? Also, would you be fine with me removing the points that have been addressed with Done. —VersaceSpace🌃14:10, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@VersaceSpace: Periodd!! Good ass article (even though it says nothing about the reversed hi-hats haha). Thanks for nominating it and sorry I didn’t carry my load well enough. You’re a great editor :) —cybertrip👽 ( 💬 • 📝) 06:39, 17 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]