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Shouldn't **** at least get a mention? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.93.61.178 (talk) 22:07, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
I want to polish up this article and take it from Start-Class to at least B-Class (that's what I'm shooting for anyway). How would we go about polishing the article up? I guess I can scan the article for grammatical errors, as well as get some more details rounded off. Any ideas?
Pip pip cheerio!
Viraneth (talk) 05:07, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
It may be C Class, but I'd like it to be even better. I want this to eventually be a featured article it's that good. I'm just having trouble thinking about what needs fixin'. Viraneth (talk) 04:17, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
Viraneth (talk) 04:12, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
It's inclusion was to better strive towards neutrality in the article. I, and one or two people I have asked to help me (because I want to raise the quality of this article to FA status), are going to be working on the Controversy and Video sections, and most of the rest of the article, to make it subjective and neutral. Viraneth (talk) 13:59, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
I'm also going to ask at Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography/Assessment for any other tips they might have. Beeblebrox (talk) 06:18, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
I commented out the "Thinking Christian" section for now. (It's still there, I just put comment tags around it.) We can put it back in if the controversy grows to anything more than one backwater blog with little outside interest. Also added in a section for Dr. Steel references in popular culture, and moved the Discography to the end. --Jonnybgoode44 (talk) 23:28, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
Viraneth (talk) 03:19, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
Doctor Steel is not just a musician, he uses the music as a platform to spread his message: that the world is in need of change. It is NOT just viral marketing or a stage persona. The purpose of Doctor Steel's persona, and the army of toy soldiers, is to make the world a better place, where fun and creativity, not just going to school so you can get a job so you can get married and have 2.5 kids, are important. Doctor Steel's message is that the world is an ugly, un-fun place in need of change and each and every one of us has the power to change it.
We, the army of toy soldiers, are not a fan club, not a street team, and certainly not a viral marketing apparatus. There is a large thread about this wikipedia article on toysoldiersunite.com, and we continue to be outraged at this. I would fix it myself, but the article is locked, presumably because people have in the past tried to fix it to make it ACCURATE.
The army of toy soldiers doesn't want to just promote Dr. Steel. We promote Dr. Steel so people will see his message. If Dr. Steel was only interested in making money and getting famous, he would accept a record deal (which he has been offered multiple times), which he steadfastly refuses to do because the record companies are faceless evil corporations only interested in money. Dr. Steel also does not except donations, which he would do if he was only interested in money. The "make a contribution" button on Doctorsteel.com takes you to the toy soldier sign up page.
Please fix this. Every person who hears of Dr. Steel and turns to wikipedia is being mislead and misinformed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.126.2.67 (talk) 02:22, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
Viraneth (talk) 18:42, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
I think C Class is fine (reassessment can be requested of course) since I'm worried about the images: File:DrSteelMadScientist.jpg and File:Paem2.jpg have no fair-use rationales, and the claim that File:ToyScout.jpg is unsourced at best. Hekerui (talk) 22:40, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
With regard to the images on this page (with the exception of the first one); Dr. Steel gave permission for them to be used, but Wikipedia wants him to specifically say they can be released under a CC-BY-SA-3.0 license. In regards to this, Dr. Steel wrote me a couple of days ago and said, "I have been very busy indeed and have not been able to provide you with the requested assets, [but] I shall aim to generate a message regarding the photographic permission for Wikipedia once my schedule allows." --Jonnybgoode44 (talk) 02:25, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
Can anyone answer why three perfectly good references were deleted as "one-off" references? I really would like to know why, as those were perfectly good references. I would restore them myself but I'd rather wait for some input on this. Viraneth (talk) 23:01, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
Never before have I ever seen the word fictitious pop up in an article so many times, is this really necessary? Just by skimming over the article I found it in there seven, maybe eight times. The least that could be done is use a thesaurus, or maybe not use it so much? Take the part where it talks about his stage persona, the phrase stage persona implies it is not real already, it doesn't need fictitious thrown in there a couple more times to back it up? felinoel (talk) 14:42, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
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Reference link #4 (http://v-m-u.com/VMU_DR_STEEL.html) is dead and shall be deleted.
Metal-Mighty (talk) 16:19, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
There was recently a spate of revisions by Wikipedian JzG, which were extremely critical and drastic. It's not surprising, since JzG was one of the people most opposed to including Dr. Steel on Wikipedia in the first place, over a year ago in the AfD discussion. I would like to address some of the particular (or should I say peculiar) edits that he made.
I have reverted some of these edits, others I have left. In the future, since this is a contested and often vandalized (and hence semi-protected) page, I think it would be a far better idea for moderators to make discussions on proposed edits on this discussion page, or make edit requests as Metal-Mighty did above, and which is what this page exists for, rather than making sweeping slashes and leaving snarky comments.
One edit JzG made that I reverted, and then reverted back, and wouldn't mind some input on, is his change of "popular" to "active" in the first paragraph, and his position that the statement required a neutral point of view. After making the reversion, I realized what it was he was trying to say. I objected to the change initially because I didn't think the word "active" was entirely accurate; Dr. Steel rarely actually attends steampunk (or other scene) events. Popular is more accurate, but doesn't sound neutral. Suggestion for a different word to use would be appreciated. --Jonnybgoode44 (talk) 02:23, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
It's currently listed as '*****', but where does it say this is his name? Shouldn't there be a link to some article? 195.73.208.129 (talk) 14:25, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
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With Doctor Steel's Disappearance in 2011, what's Wikipedia policy about rewriting intro paragraphs in past tense (i.e., "was a self-published American musician")? --Jay (Histrion) (talk • contribs) 02:44, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
The 'official' word is nowhere to be found on the internet. He was kidnapped by extraterrestrial forces, if you knew his music and his creed that would be crystal clear.
One other thing: Not signing your posts is one thing, but attempting to cover your tracks by removing an auto-signature is quite unacceptable behavior. --Jonnybgoode44 (talk) 17:40, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
Please do not engage in edit wars on this page. Any significant changes to the text should first be proposed on the talk page and consensus reached by all interested moderators. --Jonnybgoode44 (talk) 03:44, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
I have directly contacted the head of TSU, who received the resignation letter from Dr. Steel. As this was a personal correspondence, she does not wish it being posted publicly other than in the TSU forums. However several other people who have had past correspondence with Dr. Steel, including myself, have examined the document and all agree that the style and handwriting is his.
I have added a parenthetical note representing the minority viewpoint that will hopefully satisfy anyone who still thinks Dr. Steel was "abducted by aliens," while still keeping the official TSU position intact. Hopefully this will be an end to the matter. --Jonnybgoode44 (talk) 17:30, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
An anonymous poster removed the link to Dr. Steel's official fan club, Toy Soldiers Unite, saying it violated WP:LTA. After perusing WP:LTA, I didn't see any way the link pertained and therefore undid the edit.
However my curiosity got the better of me, and in searching Wikipedia I discovered WP:FANSITE, which I believe is what the anonymous poster intended to apply, rather than WP:LTA.
In this case, however, I believe the inclusion of mention of the Toy Soldiers in the article as part of the mythos warrants the link. Also, since WorldDominationToys.com and DoctorSteel.com have gone down, ToySoldiersUnite.com is where much of the information and media that was on those two sites were archived and much of the background for Dr. Steel now resides, and it is therefore now relevant.
Also, WP:FANSITE says, "most fansites, except those written by a recognized authority." TSU was officially endorsed by Dr. Steel himself and originally created and run by one of his most trusted friends.
If anyone has any objections or opposing viewpoints, please share them here so consensus can be established.--Jonnybgoode44 (talk) 22:13, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
I calved off the section for the Army of Toy Soldiers, as the group is moving on beyond just being a fan club, and it makes this article a bit more concise now and just pertaining to Dr. Steel himself. Hopefully there will be no objections. --Jonnybgoode44 (talk) 18:14, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
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I propose that Dr. Steel (album), Dr. Steel II: Eclectic Boogaloo, People of Earth (album), and The Dr. Steel Collection all be merged into this article. None of those four articles have been edited in over three years and they have very few sources, therefore they are not that notable on Wikipedia. 2601:8C:4001:DCB9:4556:FA74:B23C:37BD (talk) 04:40, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
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Amuseio AB uploaded a youtube video with the labelled artist as Dr. Steel (dated 18 Jul 2019). The song/album is also appearing on Google Play's Dr. Steel page. The description leads me to think this is very likely a misattribution, or a tribute to Dr. Steel. The video description for reference:
Provided to YouTube by Amuseio AB Mecanic · Dr. Steel Mecanic ℗ Derek Steel Released on: 2019-07-19 Writer: Derek Steel Artist: Dr. Steel Music Publisher: Copyright Control Auto-generated by YouTube.
Does anyone know the details behind this? Also what is the best way to add this to the page making it clear it's a likely misattribution? - AnnanFay (talk) 16:04, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
Apparently 2 months ago, all of his music was removed from Spotify, Apple Music, and YouTube music. May be worth a mention Gruetopia (talk) 23:00, 15 April 2024 (UTC)