Nominator(s): Aoba47 (talk) 16:54, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I am nominating this for featured list because I believe that it meets all of the requirements for a featured list. It is comprehensive in its content, and I have styled its structure after similar featured lists. This is only my second time working on a list, and putting something up for FLC so I would greatly appreciate feedback and comments on how to improve this and improve lists in general. Thank you in advance! Aoba47 (talk) 16:54, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support - a meaty list that is exhaustively referenced LavaBaron (talk) 20:28, 2 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@LavaBaron: Will do sometime either today or later this weekend if that is okay. Thank you for letting me know. Aoba47 (talk) 18:24, 11 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
I am not a fan of the current image - bad lighting and awkward pose. I see that it was changed due to the fact that the list and her bio had the same image. In my opinion, there is nothing wrong with having the same image in two pages (it is at least better than having a not-so good image) in fact I myself have done that in a few lists of my own.
Done, I really disliked the image, but I was uncertain if the same image from the bio should be used. I agree with you, and the revisions have been made. Aoba47 (talk) 04:12, 16 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
"numerous motion pictures" consider film. And I think that television should come first in the sentence as her work in TV is more prolific.
Very true. Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 04:12, 16 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
"guest appearances on television shows as a child" - when as a child?
This was more of a topic sentence to refer to the minor guest-staring roles, but I don't think it is important enough for the lead so I have removed it. Let me know if that is okay. Aoba47 (talk) 04:12, 16 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
"After her television debut in Father Murphy" - same as above.
"her television sitcom debut" - too specific and trivial IMO. If we talk about every first genre, it will be a long list (first comedy, drama etc).
Oops, I thought I eliminated that. Removed. Aoba47 (talk) 04:12, 16 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
"In 2016, she starred alongside" - I count four consecutive sentences beginning with "in".
Good catch! Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 04:12, 16 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
"being viewed as inferior to those of Cathy Moriarty and Talia Shire in Raging Bull and Rocky" - too specific, better for her biography.
True, got a little word-happy there lol. Removed. Aoba47 (talk) 04:12, 16 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
There is no need to describe her future projects in the lead. What makes them so noteworthy? FrB.TG (talk) 21:09, 15 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Very true. Removed them as they are not necessary. Aoba47 (talk) 04:12, 16 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@FrB.TG: Thank you for your comments. I made a lot of silly mistakes with this one so thank you for catching them lol. Let me know if anything else with the list can be improved. Aoba47 (talk) 04:12, 16 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support but you should also deal with Freikorp's comments. Also, if you looked at my previous nominations for my silly mistakes, you would consider yourself a master. – FrB.TG (talk) 07:33, 16 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
Well done with the article, i'm very close to supporting. Only two things stand out to me
"Despite this, some felt" - should you attribute who felt this way? It's coming across a bit weaselish to me.
Agreed, changed. Aoba47 (talk) 15:30, 16 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
"She starred alongside Alec Baldwin, Danny Glover, and Michael Madsen in the sports drama film Back in the Day (2016)." I understand you have reworded this to satisfy the above concern about four sentence starting with "In", but now I think this sounds awkward and the styling is inconsistent (year in brackets as opposed to in prose). To satisfy the original request, I would instead suggest rewording the second sentence from "In the same year" to "Later that year". Freikorp (talk) 06:12, 16 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Freikorp: Thank you! I have addressed your two comments. Let me know if there is anything else that can be improved. Aoba47 (talk) 15:30, 16 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hi again. I didn't see anything done about the second issue - maybe your edit didn't save? I changed it myself since you thought it was a good idea also. Anyway also now the prose says "she received positive reviews" though only one source is given. I would suggest adding a second or changing the prose to a single attributed favourable comment on the show from the source given. Freikorp (talk) 21:43, 16 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Freikorp: Thank you for your comment; I must have somehow forgot to save that edit so I apologize for that. I have added an additional reviews to that part to better support it. Let me know if there is anything else that I can do. Thank you again for your help. Aoba47 (talk) 22:59, 16 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. Aoba47 (talk) 15:17, 17 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Source Review
Spotchecks and formatting checks passed, though note that if you're adding an archive link to a reference where the main url still works, you can add "|deadurl=no" to the reference and it will change the main link to the present url and link the archive on the word "archived" instead of linking "original". --PresN 20:31, 29 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@PresN: That makes sense. I always wondered about that so thank you for letting me know about it. I am trying to be better with the structure/organization of my references, and I will definitely keep that in mind for the future. Aoba47 (talk) 21:36, 29 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Michael Fassbender is an Irish-German actor who has played a variety of roles in both box office hits such as Magneto in the X-Men film series and indie films such Bobby Sands in Hunger and a slave owner in 12 Years a Slave. This filmography lists these and many others on both television and film. As always, look forward to all the constructive comments on how to improve it. Cowlibob (talk) 20:14, 5 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Comments by AffeL
Ref 3 is dead and Ref 26 does not work.
@Cowlibob: Other than that I can't see any issues with this article. I would say that this list currently meets the FL criteria. AffeL (talk) 14:26, 17 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@AffeL: Thanks for the review. Fixed dead links. Cowlibob (talk) 14:34, 17 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support, looks good. Well done. - AffeL (talk) 14:42, 17 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
"including a German motorcycle courier in drama Hearts and Bones (2001) ..." - Article missing
"The following year Fassbender portrayed Irish republican Bobby Sands during the events of the ... " You haven't mention the year (of 300's release) in the previous sentence.
"In the same year he also appeared in superhero film X-Men: First Class as Magneto" - I'd suggest you to mention year here.
"In 2015, he appeared as the title character in Justin Kurzel's adaptation of Macbeth" - You've linked Macbeth to the film. You could either pipe the 'adaptation of' bit to the film's article and have a link Macbeth to the play, or pipe the whole thing (i.e., 'adaptation of Macbeth' to the film's article).
Be consistent in linking publisher names in refs.
The publisher for Roger Ebert refs. should either be rogerebert.com or Ebert Digital LLC.
Are collider.com and deadline.com reliable sources?
@Vensatry: Thanks for your review. I think I have resolved the above. Cowlibob (talk) 22:21, 18 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support, meets the standards —Vensatry(talk) 05:56, 19 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I've done the source review (no spotchecks performed though). —Vensatry(talk) 05:59, 19 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I did spot-checks on references 15, 24, and 31 and found no issues. With that out of the way, I'll be promoting the list now. Giants2008 (Talk) 02:07, 28 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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"The Kenyans won the game the game by 73 runs" - bit of a stutter there :-)
Fixed
Given that the lead mentions that ODIs have a limited number of overs, probably worth wikilinking "overs"
Wikilinked
"Kenya has since qualified" - singular here, plural everywhere else?
Fixed
"The Kenyan team has played 154 ODI games" - jumps back to singular
Fixed
"In those 154 games, 50 individual players have represented Kenya" - don't think this is needed, the first paragraph already said there are 50 players on the list
Removed
"Last updated 30 January September 2014" - eh?
Corrected
"those players are initially listed alphabetically at the time of debut" - I don't think the last five words are needed.....?
Removed
Could you combine the three notes into one, since they all say exactly the same thing just about different players?
You say "Kenya gained ODI status in its own right following a strong performance in the 1996 Cricket World Cup, ..." then "The team's first ODI came against India in the 1996 Cricket World Cup..." these aren't compatible, unless the ODIs they played in the 1996 World Cup were played without Kenya gaining ODI status.
Not done. This page makes it clear they were awarded full status after the world cup, "As a result of these efforts, it was granted ODI status." Kenya national cricket team#ODI status also backs that up, saying "Following their World Cup performance, Kenya were given full ODI status by the ICC"
Ok, so to clarify, those first few ODIs were played with Kenya not having full ODI status? The Rambling Man (talk) 08:05, 27 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, but they are stilled considered full ODIs by the ICC, I assume due to being in a World Cup. — YellowDingo(talk) 08:14, 27 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
It just struck me as odd that they played a number of ODIs before being awarded full ODI status. That's what the prose says, and as accurate as it may be, it would still confuse a non-expert... The Rambling Man (talk) 09:04, 27 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
((dagger)) and ((double dagger)) say alt text is added automatically. Well thats what I think those pages mean, I'm not 100% sure. Is there something that needs to be done?
You can pipe it with "alt=Wicket keeper" in each case, for instance. The Rambling Man (talk) 08:09, 27 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your review and support. Also, early congrats to you for your likely win in the delegate elections! — YellowDingo(talk) 09:31, 27 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
"A One Day International (ODI) is an international cricket match between two representative teams, each having ODI status ..." - 'international' might be redundant here.
Removed
It's worth mentioning the number of overs allotted for ODIs to make things clear for non-specialists.
Added
As of September 2016 -> November 2016
Done
1996 Cricket World Cup -> 1996 World Cup
Done
'the West Indies' is piped to the football team. Also why pipe 'the'?
Fixed
"The Kenyan team have played 154 ODI games with the most recent coming in 2014" - As of needed here.
Added
I was wrong here. "As of ..." is redundant here. —Vensatry(talk) 14:25, 17 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
HS column doesn't sort right.
Fixed
On what basis does '–' sort in the Avg (batting & bowling) columns?
Support, nice work. I've checked for formatting and reliability of the sources. No spotchecks done though. —Vensatry(talk) 08:54, 24 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Spot-checks – I looked at references 20, 31, and 46 and all of the statistics they supported checked out. As the list has sufficient support, I'll be promoting this now that the source review has been completed. Giants2008 (Talk) 02:17, 28 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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No bowler has taken more fifers than Ravichandran Ashwin in the past one year. Making his Test debut in 2011, he is comfortably placed above the Indian spin quartet. I've modeled this list based on similar FLs. As always, look forward to comments and suggestions. —Vensatry(talk) 06:32, 2 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support nice list. Good work Vensatry! Also, would you mind having a look at this FLC I have open? If not thats ok. - YellowDingo(talk) 05:24, 4 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support - can't see any issues -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:13, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
You say "as of October 2016" but the source has an access date of August...
"and ensured India's victory" that's POV and not referenced.
"He has been more prolific " do you mean "most prolific"?
" four wickets for 25 runs ... four wickets for eight runs ..." an odd one this, but my interpretation of MOS:NUM would be that you should have 8 instead of eight as they are comparable figures in the same sentence.
Image caption says three fivers, I count four?
"career-best seven wickets for 66 runs." 7 for 59 seems to be his career best now...
Source review - All references are well-formatted and to reliable sources, and the link-checker reveals no issues with dead links. I spot-checked references 7, 10, 11, 15, and 19, and found no concerns. Overall, the article passed the source review with flying colors. While doing checks, I noticed that the Sir Vivian Richards Stadium cell in the table could use a space after the second comma, so you may want to tweak that quickly. Giants2008 (Talk) 00:05, 24 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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I am nominating this for featured list because it cropped up as being an interesting side-effect of the Masters tournament. Many holes-in-one, lots of affection for the contest, a "curse" too. Yes, I have another FLC open, it's not related, it's got one set of comments that I've addressed, it's all good. The Rambling Man (talk) 22:52, 2 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Giants2008 (Talk) 21:05, 27 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Comments –
List of winners could have the first two words dropped, since we don't need confirmation that it's a list.
I'm sorry, but this wasn't what I had I mind (not that I necessarily mind the title being moved, as it doesn't bother me either way). What I meant was that the section heading could have those words taken out. My fault for not making that clear in the original comment. Giants2008 (Talk) 00:23, 27 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Typo in the Vijay Singh photo caption: "pictured".
We only have 2013 marked as having had a playoff. This source gives a figure of 19 Par-3 contest playoffs going into 2015. It gives a few playoff years but not all of them, and I don't have much in my various sports almanacs that would help. Maybe looking at the sources again will give a few clues as to when playoffs were held. Or you might consider dropping the symbol if the sources don't exist to comprehensively note them.
Interesting, will come back to this. Particularly as the source you note is wrong also in its claim that the last playoff was in 2004... The Rambling Man (talk) 21:48, 25 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Giants2008: The official website has cleared this up so I've made the necessary adjustments and noted it in the lead as well. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:47, 26 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
That's great; I wasn't convinced the sources were out there for you to find them all. It seems like you're using asterisks for the playoffs; if so, you'll need to fix the key, which is showing asterisks for ties and another symbol for playoffs. Giants2008 (Talk) 00:23, 27 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Refs 2 and 26 have gone dead since the start of the FLC.
I'd add the related source used at the end of the lead to the first note below the Masters champions table, as the source is from 1991. The lead source is more up-to-date.
The publisher of ref 8 should be capitalized, as the Augusta Chronicle is a newspaper.Giants2008 (Talk) 21:32, 25 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I'm guessing you mean The Augusta Chronicle should be The Augusta Chronicle, thus done. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:57, 25 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
That's precisely what I meant to say. Giants2008 (Talk) 00:23, 27 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your comments, just the playoff issue to resolve, I'll take a look at that tomorrow if you don't mind. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:57, 25 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I think I've addressed your concerns, please let me know if there's anything I can do? Cheers. The Rambling Man (talk) 08:26, 26 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support – All of my comments have been addressed, and I like the new title. This looks like it meets FL standards now. Giants2008 (Talk) 21:05, 27 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Per WP:TITLEABSENTBOLD — "In general, if the article's title is absent from the first sentence, do not apply the bold style to related text that does appear." — remove the bold from the lead
Actually, since no other article covers this, I may just change the article title (again) to "Masters Torunament Par-3 Contest" and then bold that in the lead ... what do you think? The Rambling Man (talk) 09:27, 27 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I am no expert, but I take it that this is a single half round as opposed to the several full rounds in a serious tournament. This could be spelled out.
That should be covered by ... on a nine-hole, par-27 course ...The Rambling Man (talk) 20:27, 28 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The (2) obviously refers to second wins, but this should be explained in the key. Dudley Miles (talk) 09:22, 28 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support. A first rate list, although I do not see you have covered a single round. Dudley Miles (talk) 20:36, 28 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I see what you mean, I've added a few extra words which I think covers it now. Thanks again for the review. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:49, 28 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Source review – I don't believe there are any prohibitions against a previous supporter offering a source check, so allow me to expedite the process. All sources are well-formatted and reliable. I spot-checked refs 6 (playoffs only), 19, 20, and 30, and found one issue: there were 20 playoffs, not 19 as the lead indicates. The Masters website lists all the playoffs in its table, but apparently never updated its lead after the 2015 playoff. This should be corrected in our lead. A look at the link-checker tool reveals that ref 32 has gone dead. The page appears to have been moved here, so that can be used as a replacement. All other links appear to be in working order. Giants2008 (Talk) 21:16, 29 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I can't believe that link went dead already, I only found it a few days back. But fixed, as is the number of playoffs. Thanks for the keen eye. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:20, 29 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Promoting. --PresN 20:05, 16 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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I was reliably informed that the Ipswich Town F.C.featured topic would be demoted if, amongst other things, this list wasn't taken up to FL standards. So here we are. As I know it can take a month or two for these things to precipitate, I've pushed it out early doors to give the FT people the notification that I'm serious about keeping the FT going, and I'd be grateful for any and all comments here regarding this article's suitability for an FL. Cheers all. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:32, 26 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
ChrisTheDude, thanks very much for your review, I believe I've addressed the comments and certainly see an improvement from them (plus I learnt about ((efn-ua))!!) The Rambling Man (talk) 19:53, 2 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
"international Mick Mills" - earlier on you say "England international Crawford" presumably because Crawford is mentioned and linked in the opening paragraph. Mills is also linked in first paragraph. Make it consistent
John Elsworthy (2008) → John Elsworthy (inducted 2008)
(Ref numbers taken from this revision) Refs 27, 3, 9, 10 and 25 as well as general 2 are all dead for me
3 is fine for me. 9 is fine for me. 10 is fine for me. 25 is fine for me. 27 is dead, replaced. General 2 is dead, replaced. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:50, 3 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
There is a bit of overlinking of the work names in the references section. For example East Anglian Daily Times is linked three times but not at its first appearance where it should be. Also some links like Ipswich Town F.C. are linked at their second or third mention not at their first.
MOS:DTT suggests that we give tables a descriptive caption
in the table, I'd suggest just using the letters N/A (or n/a, or an endash) in default font rather than the template: the small caps look incongruous, and the coloured background makes the reader wonder what the colour signifies
in general, I think we're supposed to use ((cite news)) rather than ((cite web)) for news sources these days
ref#1 author should be Jonathon with an O
ref#4 url doesn't go to the records page
ref#6 is long dead
ref#6 and ref#7 are from the same website, but one has it italicised and the other doesn't. I'd use |website=, but so long as you use the same for both, it'd be fine
ref#13 no other work/publisher is linked, so delink ITFC
ref#16 is the same as ref#3
ref#21 is the same as ref#4 (and also doesn't link to the records page despite the recent accessdate)
ref#28 needs an accessdate and an endash in the title
((dagger)) and ((double-dagger)) have an alt text parameter which we're supposed to use, for accessibility, e.g. ((dagger|posthumous induction))
Last first, I think I've answered this before a couple of times, it's used by people like the BBC (here for instance) so I have no reason to doubt it. Others I'll get to. The Rambling Man (talk) 11:43, 3 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
That BBC example really doesn't help. What that feature uses content from and links to are match reports copied from newspapers. Those copies include the writer's name at the end but don't bother mentioning the original sources or indeed that there were original sources...
To be fair, I have no reason to doubt it for a list of who's in the ITFC Hall of Fame, but I'm not sure my opinion ought to count for much. The site doesn't appear to have an "about" page or any indication of who runs it and whether they have any external credibility. It's rare that I comment here these days: I presume the process does still need to demonstrate that sources used in FLs are RS? If you could show that its factual content, stats stuff or similar, was cited elsewhere... Struway2 (talk) 13:49, 3 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I can't find the last time I did that, so that's going to be awkward. I think the fact that the BBC links to them many times offers some level of credibility. The Rambling Man (talk) 14:02, 3 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your prompt replies. I'll leave this thread open for others to judge. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 15:07, 3 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Struway2: I no longer use the PoA website exclusively to reference anything, but I have left it there as it is corroborated in each case by other sources. Hopefully this alleviates your concern. Cheers. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:33, 21 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
No problem now with referencing, thank you for adding the book source. Couple more bits: the images need alt text, and the caption on Muhren's picture says "indicted" rather than "inducted"... cheers, Struway2 (talk) 09:29, 21 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Ha, Freudian slip. Good spot. Fixed, and alt text added. The Rambling Man (talk) 11:41, 21 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Struway2: not sure if you saw that I'd resolved your last notes? No worries either way. Cheers. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:56, 25 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry boss, my attention span is shrinking by the minute second... All issues satisfactorily dealt with, am now happy to support. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 19:11, 25 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
No worries boss, my attention span expands to a full five minutes these days. Could be early-onset-Altzheimers, or perhaps it's just dealing with two sub-three-year-old kids. Or both. Either way, thanks again for your scrutiny. If I become a FLC delegate, I'll be calling on you to assist, assuming you have the time.... Cheers! The Rambling Man (talk) 19:15, 25 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Source Review
passed. Promoting. --PresN 20:10, 16 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Nominator(s): Tone 15:04, 22 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I am nominating this for featured list because I believe it contains all the relevant information regarding Slovenia at the Olympics, and is presented in a comprehensible way. Since most of the article consists of tables, I believe it is appropriate to nominate it for a FL. The criteria:
1&2 - Should be fine. Probably some tweaks will be required, please point them out in the review.
3 - Contains lists of medallists, number of athletes at each Games, and also a list of Slovenian medallists representing former countries (but clearly listed separately with an explanation). I was considering including a list of flag-bearers at the opening ceremonies but that is a separate article already so I avoided forking.
4 - That should be fine.
5 - The tables follow the style of related articles. Flags and pictograms are public domain. No other images, though some portraits (perhaps Tina Maze and Iztok Čop) could be included. Depends on the reviews.
6 - I expect no major changes until the 2018 Winter Olympics ;)
Per MOS:BOLDAVOID — "In general, if the article's title is absent from the first sentence, do not apply the bold style to related text that does appear" — unbold "Slovenia" and "Olympic Games" in the first sentence
"became the first Slovene winning an Olympic medal, a silver in team sabre." → "became the first Slovene to win an Olympic medal, a silver in the team sabre."
"until the independence" → "until Slovenia's independence"
"medals for Kingdom of Yugoslavia" → "medals for the Kingdom of Yugoslavia"
"All Winter Olympic medals for Yugoslavia" → "All of Yugoslavia's Winter Olympic medals"
"under Slovenian flag" → "under the Slovenian flag"
"Among summer events, the most successful were the 2000 Summer Olympics with two gold medals and the 2008 Summer Olympics with five medals overall, one of which was gold." → "Slovenia's most successful Summer Olympics have been the 2000 Games where they won two gold medals and the 2008 Games where they won five medals including one gold."
"Slovenian athletes won record" → "Slovenian athletes won a record"
"Rajmond Debevec (shooting) competed at the Olympics eight times so far (1984–2012, first two times representing Yugoslavia)." → Rajmond Debevec (shooting) has competed at the Olympics eight times as of 2016[update] between 1984 to 2012, including two Olympics representing Yugoslavia.
"Merlene Ottey (athletics) competed seven times (1980–2004, first six times representing Jamaica, for which she won nine medals)." → "Track and field athlete Merlene Ottey competed at the Olympics seven times between 1980 to 2004, including six for Jamaica, winning nine medals.
The four medallist tables should be sorted by medal type first and year second
In general the lead is laking citations. The first paragraph especially requires quite a bit of work. Statements that aren't common knowledge like "Before the Second World War, all Olympic medals for Kingdom of Yugoslavia were won by gymnasts, mostly Slovenians." need a reference.
— Good work so far but their is a bit more work to go. - YellowDingo(talk) 06:26, 28 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! I think I'm through with the revisions. As for the medal tables, I'd leave them as they are, since a chronological ordering makes slightly more sense IMO. In any case, they are sortable. As for the references in the first paragraph, I added some, the rest should be clear from the continuation of the article (such as medals at the winter games for Yugoslavia). Let me know if there's anything else I should do. --Tone 16:36, 28 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Further comments from Yellow Dingo
In the first sentence their is no need to link France as we don't normally link major countries per WP:OVERLINK
"Slovenian athletes have won a total of 23 medals at the Summer Olympic Games and another 15 at the Winter Olympic Games." - Do you mean Slovenian athletes competing for Slovenia or Slovenia athletes in general. You probably should clarify
"Slovenia0s" - → "Slovenia's"
"Slovenian athletes won" → "Slovenian athletes have won"
— Ok nice work on the first lot. I have found a few more issues but this article is now getting close to FL standard. - YellowDingo(talk) 08:56, 29 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Done! At some point in future, I also plan to update the Rio references with sports-reference, so that it is consistent. But the last time I checked, they did not have them updated yet. --Tone 14:46, 29 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
This list is vastly improved and I am happy to support on prose. No comment on referencing or the ref templates, I will leave that to the source review. Note: I made this copyedit as well as the three mentioned above. Well done Tone! - YellowDingo(talk) 07:13, 31 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! --Tone 08:22, 31 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The first sentence and the whole second paragraph should be merged. They both say the same thing.
as a part of → as part of (several instances)
Source [51] also mentions - what source? it should be named. Also, the footnotes always should be placed after punctuation marks.
1988 Seoul Olympics[52] and Vinko Jelovac - see above
Jelovac holds both Slovenian and Croatian passport and was twice chosen as Slovenian Sportsman of the Year in the 1970s. - "holds both Slovenian and Croatian passport and" part should be removed from that sentence. He won that award in 1970s when there were no Croatian or Slovenian passports.
There are several references in another language; not English. They should mention in what language they are written.
Ah, I thought you meant the dashes in the references. Thanks for fixing it ;) --Tone 20:34, 25 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
" the team sabre" specifically it was the "men's" team sabre.
Done.
Should link Slovene.
You mean to Slovenian people? I currently made a link in the first mention, let me know if this is what you had in mind. ]
Well you have "Slovenian" and "Slovene"; are they interchangeable? Do they mean the same thing. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:04, 25 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
When talking about people, yes. It can also mean the language, which is not the case here. Perhaps this link is redundant then. --Tone 20:34, 25 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I would unlink it as right now it links to a disambiguation page. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:54, 8 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Removed. --Tone 09:02, 8 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
"Rajmond Debevec (shooting) " this is an odd way of writing prose, why not "The shooter Rajmon Debevec..."? Similarly " was Nastja Govejšek (swimming)", why not "was the swimmer Nastja..."?
Changed. I kept the links to the sports. --Tone 19:56, 25 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
"Track and field athlete Merlene Ottey competed at the Olympics seven times between 1980 and 2004. In her first six appearances, she was representing Jamaica, for whom she won nine medals.[7] " this appears to have no relevance to the article. I know, because I looked it up, hse represented Slovenia from 2002 onwards, but that's not clear here.
Well, Ottey still is a Slovenian athlete with seven Olympic appearances, which I think is interesting to mention it somewhere. As for women with most appearances, I found 3 with 4 in a quick check. I guess that's too many to list individually.
But the article didn't actually make any comment to suggest that Ottey represents Slovenia... The Rambling Man (talk) 20:04, 25 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, that's what you thought. Added. --Tone 20:34, 25 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
What makes www.medalspercapita.com a reliable source?
I found some sources that cite this site, Time, for example. That makes it relevant enough for me. Alternatively, there are such articles for individual games, but I have not found another comparable site.
Added some general and some for Rio and London. There are more for Beijing, for example. I leave it to your opinion how many and which should be there. --Tone 19:43, 4 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@The Rambling Man:. I see, that's something I wasn't using before. Fixed! At the same time, I shrinked the multiple medallist table, it was too broad. --Tone 09:15, 5 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Where are the number of athletes at each Games referenced?
That's the first reference, Slovenia at the Olympics at sports-reference. Also the medals.
Re-add it inline with the tables, currently that section has no inline references. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:08, 25 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Do you like what I did? --Tone 20:34, 25 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Sex, for whatever reason it's listed, ought to be next to the name of the athlete.
IDK, should I just remove it instead? Easy to move, otherwise.
Made some edits to the references- the work for Sports Reference is the actual name as such, not the website url, like how it's CNN, not cnn.com. Made the edits myself, so, source review passed, promoting. --PresN 03:49, 11 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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After making Mr. Damon's filmography a featured list, it makes sense to do the same with Mr. Affleck's screen roles. I look forward to constructive comments, as usual. Krimuk|90 (talk) 05:21, 18 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Cowlibob (talk) 10:30, 11 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
An actor who really reinvented himself as a director.
Need page number for Ref 1, also location.
Couldn't find the page number in the book sample that I referred to.
Alternative ref for first lead role in Glory Daze, Affleck described it as a "first sort of lead". Probably better to use one which is secondary.
Can't see any secondary source explicitly mentioning it as a lead role, but he had top-billing in it, as the RT source says.
Does the SPIN source support the Chasing Amy success?
According to IMDB, he exec producing television film More Time with Family (2014), All Grown Up (2003), Crossing Cords (2001) (short film). Affleck and Damon were extras in Field of Dreams (1989). He also directed a short film for UNHRC Gimme Shelter (2008)
So none of the television films have any mention outside of IMDB, and hence fail the WP: NOTABILITY criteria. Included the documentary.
Alt text needed for images
On a sidenote, are there really no images of Affleck on wiki where he doesn't look like someone's shot his puppy?
For a reference to Ben Affleck's credit in Wanted: the Perfect Guy, I found this book source that would serve better than TV.com's source (I personally am okay with it, but I found a better one). It is on page 3 (in case Google Books does not let you see it because it is only a preview). Also, this reference from TCM makes note of his role as Danny Coleman, as well.
@Birdienest81: Krimuk has permanently retired from Wikipedia but I'm happy to answer any queries. Have replaced the above ref with one from Turner Classic Movies. Cowlibob (talk) 19:46, 4 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Not convinced that the two subsequent images after the lead add anything other than reflect the fact that he looks pretty much the same in every photo...
"The year 1997 was noteworthy for Affleck." unnecessary.
" on a novel by" should really be " on the novel by" with "the novel" forming the text of the Wikilink.
" his highest-grossing release" how much?
Would prefer to see those portal links on the right-hand side.
@The Rambling Man: Made some relevant fixes. Removed the bottom two pictures. Reworded some of the lead. Removed portal links as I didn't think they were that useful. Cowlibob (talk) 18:41, 27 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
For some reason, when I sort the Director column, Joe Chappelle is appearing out of alphabetical order, coming before Michael Bay and a few other B last names. Can you check the formatting on this one?
In the Suicide Squad note, Cameo probably doesn't need to be capitalized.
Is it possible to provide a page number(s) for ref 1?Giants2008 (Talk) 21:20, 2 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Giants2008: I don't have access to the book but this website shows an excerpt of it on an unknown page, supporting the statement. [[9]] Should I replace the book with this website which I think is the author's website? Cowlibob (talk) 09:58, 4 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
You could replace the Google Books link with the website and leave the book citation intact. I think the author's website could be trusted to faithfully reproduce the content from the book, and showing that the content is from a published author would help show that the site is reliable enough to be used in an FL.Giants2008 (Talk) 22:10, 5 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support – I now believe the list meets FL standards after the fixes. Nice work as usual. Giants2008 (Talk) 02:05, 9 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Source review passed, promoting. --PresN 03:48, 11 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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