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List of international cricket centuries at the Pallekele International Cricket Stadium[edit]

Nominator(s): Price Zero|^talk 02:02, 5 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because it's give a clear idea about centuries in the ground. It's follows FL criteria and I think its good enough to be a featured list. The lead section is also reasonable and nicely sourced. Article is sourced with ESPNcricinfo. I have made reasonable contribution to the article as well. Price Zero|^talk 02:02, 5 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose – Hi Price Zero, I feel that list isn't quite up to featured status at this point. The lead needs a bit a work with the opening paragraph using the same sentence format three times. Also a reference to the match report is required for each listing. Please see List of international cricket centuries at the Adelaide Oval, the latest list of this kind to be featured, for what I mean.

Additionally:

the images need alt text
the referencing formatting is inconsistent
remove the Cricket in Sri Lanka navbox to meet WP:BIDIRECTIONAL
remove Pallekele International Cricket Stadium and List of international cricket grounds in Sri Lanka from the see also section

– Ianblair23 (talk) 12:12, 24 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

-This is fixed now - Price Zero|^talk 04:01, 5 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose too many issues for me right now:

Not sure why the name needs an inline reference right after its first mention.
Worth noting where Kandy is.
"its first Test in 2010 Sri Lanka against West Indies" grammar fix needed here.
Image caption - Match doesn't need to be capitalised, sentence is a fragment so no need for a full stop.
"The first One Day International was played in 2011 ICC Cricket World " - "the 2011..."
"was played in 2011 Sri Lanka " ditto.
"score of the ground" nope, maybe "score made at the ground"?
"scored by .. when he scored..." repetitive.
" 9 Test centuries " - nine, per MOSNUM.
"centuries until 2016" try "As of June 2017^[update], 12 ODI centuries have been scored at the venue..."
" The first of these was made by the New Zealander Ross Taylor in 2011 against Pakistan at the inaugural ODI at the venue which was a pool match of 2011 ICC Cricket World Cup" too many run-ons here.
"scored the highest ODI score" repetitive.
" He bagged five" not encyclopedic.
" with 939 runs at an average of 78.25." are you averaging Test and ODI cricket together here?
" at the ground scored again by Tillakaratne Dilshan" grammar again, replace "ground scored again" with "was made" or similar.
" during inaugural T20I at the venue back in August 2011" grammar and tone, "the" inaugural, and we don't need "back in..." just "in".
" venue highlighted as unbeaten 145 runs by Australian Glenn Maxwell against Sri Lanka, when he arranged the match for highest T20I team total of the history." not really even sure where to begin with this sentence, needs overhaul.
"With three T20I centuries at the venue, Pallekele Stadium holds the record for the most T20I centuries to score at a single venue." likewise.
Suggest you get this copyedited by someone with native English.
Tables need to comply with MOS:TABLE i.e. row and col scopes, and captions where possible.
Date ranges in the ref titles need en-dash, not hyphens, per WP:DASH.

That's it for a quick runthrough. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:21, 5 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Price Zero these comments have been here a week now, are you going to address them or shall I archive this nomination? The Rambling Man (talk) 06:20, 12 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Achieve it. I'm not gonna take this to further level. (Price Zero|^talk 07:45, 12 June 2017 (UTC))[reply]

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List of awards and nominations received by Inna[edit]

Nominator(s): Cartoon network freak (talk) 18:14, 12 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because I think it meets the criteria. I've never promoted an 'awards-list' to FL status so far, but I've put a lot of work into this. Cartoon network freak (talk) 18:14, 12 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Aoba47[edit]

Resolved comments from Aoba47
Comments from Aoba47 Please provide an ALT description for the infobox image. Done Be more descriptive than that with your ALT description. "A photograph of Inna" could refer to almost anything related to the singer, and your ALT needs to be more specific to be actually helpful. Aoba47 (talk) 16:27, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply] Done now! I would remove the dynamic list template from the top of the page as I would assume that this could easily be completed as done with either awards/nominations pages. Done I would rephrase the first sentence to the following (Romanian singer-songwriter and dancer Inna has received various awards and nominations.) to keep the focus on her awards. Done I have altered this to include the "nominations" part as this list goes to both her awards and nominations, not just her wins. Aoba47 (talk) 16:30, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply] I would suggest looking at the structure of the lead for similar lists that have already passed FLC, such as List of awards and nominations received by Adele. The second sentence from the first paragraph should be removed as it is more appropriate for her main article but not necessary for this lead. The same goes for her studies in political science. I would start with her unsuccessful audition for A.S.I.A. Done Tried to amend this I would look through the lead again and revise the language. There are many examples of awkward wording and sentence construction. Looking at similar lists that have already passed FLC would be helpful with this. I would also suggest a c/e from the WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors. Done Tried to work on lead; I knew it's problematic ;) I will do a more detailed prose review soon, but I would recommend trying to correct any prose issues prior to putting something up for FLC in the future. Aoba47 (talk) 16:30, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply] The last sentence of the first paragraph needs a citation. Done This has not been done. The last sentence of the first paragraph needs a citation to support the "the first time for Romania" bit. Aoba47 (talk) 16:28, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply] In the brief descriptions with each award section, you do not need to include the references to her wins and nominations as the references are already present in the tables. The references about the awards themselves should stay. Done I've only left refs for award galas without an own article or if there was any other info mentioned about the award that needed support from a ref. @Cartoon network freak: You still need to include references for the definitions for the awards even if they have a Wikipedia article so please add those back per my original comment. The lead itself still needs a lot of work and revision and I will provide a more thorough review of its prose later in the day. Aoba47 (talk) 16:23, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply] @Cartoon network freak: Good job with this list. Once my comments are addressed, I will read through it again. My primary concerns are with the lead, which has several prose and sentence construction issues that need to be corrected/revised. Hope this helps. The actual list itself seems really good. Aoba47 (talk) 03:18, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply] @Aoba47: Thanks for your review! Please let me know your follow-up thoughts ;) Best, Cartoon network freak (talk) 16:17, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply] @Cartoon network freak: I will provide a more extensive review of the prose later in the day if that is okay with you as there still some problem areas in the lead that prevent me from fully support this nomination. Aoba47 (talk) 16:25, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply] I would organize the lead chronologically to help make a cohesive narrative for the reader. Right now, the first paragraph has information about a 2011 award for a 2010 song. This should be moved down to one of the later paragraphs. Aoba47 (talk) 17:28, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply] Done I would spell out 13 in this context as it looks odd to have that be the only numeral in the first paragraph. Aoba47 (talk) 17:28, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply] Done In the start of the second paragraph, I would include information about her initial record deal if possible. See the Adele example I linked above to see what I mean by this. Aoba47 (talk) 17:28, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply] Not done I have no source to add this information; sorry :( No worries. I completely understand. Aoba47 (talk) 20:55, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply] The phrase "native trio" is very odd. What do you mean by "native"? If you mean "Bulgarian", then just say that for clarity. Aoba47 (talk) 17:28, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply] Done Remove "itself" in the phrase "the record itself" as it is unnecessary. Aoba47 (talk) 17:28, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply] Done Just say "singles" instead of "single releases". "Single releases" is unnecessarily long. Aoba47 (talk) 17:28, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply] Done Could you go into more detail about the awards and nominations from her first album. You only devote a sentence to it, and I believe that it should be expanded. Aoba47 (talk) 17:28, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply] Not done She only received a single nomination for the album at the RRA Awards, so there is in fact nothing to expand. Makes sense, thank you for the clarification. Aoba47 (talk) 20:55, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply] I would put the phrase "her second studio album" in front of the album's name for clarity. Aoba47 (talk) 17:28, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply] Done I do not know what you mean by the transition "The same year" as you list two years (2010 and 2011) in the previous sentence. Do you mean 2010 or 2011 by this? Aoba47 (talk) 17:28, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply] Done Could you also expand on the awards and nominations she received for her second studio album? You only have a brief sentence about one award, and this should be expanded if possible to not give undue emphasis on a singular award. Aoba47 (talk) 17:28, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply] Done Eliminate "for purchase" in the phrase "made available for purchase" as it is unnecessary. Aoba47 (talk) 17:28, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply] Done Please include any information about the awards and nominations associated with the third and fourth albums in the lead. Aoba47 (talk) 17:28, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply] Done She only won awards with her third album The sentence about "P.O.H.U.I." needs to be revised as it reads awkwardly to me. It also comes out of nowhere following the brief statement about the third and fourth studio albums so a transition would be helpful in this case. Aoba47 (talk) 17:28, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply] Done Tried to do both things I think you should include information about the awards and nominations for "P.O.H.U.I." in the lead, but provide a more comprehensive overview of its awards and nominations. You only include one nomination in the lead, but it was also up for other awards. Done Included the other award received This question is not specifically relevant to this review, but do you think that "P.O.H.U.I." is notable enough to have its own article or at least a red link? Aoba47 (talk) 17:28, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply] I may make an article about it this weekend. It really is notable, you're right :) Good luck with it. If you put it up for GAN, let me know and I will review it. Aoba47 (talk) 03:37, 14 March 2017 (UTC)[reply] I would move the sentence "Diggy Down" closer to the sentence on its parent album to make the connection clear. Aoba47 (talk) 17:28, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply] Done In the lead, I would recommend including a sentence or two about the awards and nominations that the singer has receive outside of her music career, such as those for her style or her dancing, to provide a more comprehensive overview of the awards and nominations. Aoba47 (talk) 17:28, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply] Done @Cartoon network freak: I have added additional comments above. Also, remember to address my responses to my original comments. One of my main issues is that there is not enough of an overview of the actual awards and nominations in the lead. It lists the albums and includes one or two notes about its awards and/or nominations, but this needs to be expanded. Please refer to a FL on a similar topic and use that as an example for the expansion. Aoba47 (talk) 17:28, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply] @Aoba47: The lead is in a MUCH better shape now. Please check it out again! I'm going to add refs for the award definitions tomorrow. Best, Cartoon network freak (talk) 20:25, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply] @Cartoon network freak: Thank you for the prompt responses. I have also made some edits/revisions to the lead as well. Ping me once you have added the references for the award definitions and I will look through it again and most likely support this nomination. Thank you for your patience while going through my rather long review. You have done an excellent job. I have to admit that I have never heard of this singer until reading through your work on here lol. Aoba47 (talk) 20:54, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply] @Aoba47: I've added the sources for the awards. Inna is not big in the US, she's only had a few Dance Airplay hits there ;) Best, Cartoon network freak (talk) 06:05, 14 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Aoba47

Comments from Aoba47

Please provide an ALT description for the infobox image.

Done

Be more descriptive than that with your ALT description. "A photograph of Inna" could refer to almost anything related to the singer, and your ALT needs to be more specific to be actually helpful. Aoba47 (talk) 16:27, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Done now!

I would remove the dynamic list template from the top of the page as I would assume that this could easily be completed as done with either awards/nominations pages.

Done

I would rephrase the first sentence to the following (Romanian singer-songwriter and dancer Inna has received various awards and nominations.) to keep the focus on her awards.

Done

I have altered this to include the "nominations" part as this list goes to both her awards and nominations, not just her wins. Aoba47 (talk) 16:30, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I would suggest looking at the structure of the lead for similar lists that have already passed FLC, such as List of awards and nominations received by Adele. The second sentence from the first paragraph should be removed as it is more appropriate for her main article but not necessary for this lead. The same goes for her studies in political science. I would start with her unsuccessful audition for A.S.I.A.

Done Tried to amend this

I would look through the lead again and revise the language. There are many examples of awkward wording and sentence construction. Looking at similar lists that have already passed FLC would be helpful with this. I would also suggest a c/e from the WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors.

Done Tried to work on lead; I knew it's problematic ;)

I will do a more detailed prose review soon, but I would recommend trying to correct any prose issues prior to putting something up for FLC in the future. Aoba47 (talk) 16:30, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The last sentence of the first paragraph needs a citation.

Done

This has not been done. The last sentence of the first paragraph needs a citation to support the "the first time for Romania" bit. Aoba47 (talk) 16:28, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

In the brief descriptions with each award section, you do not need to include the references to her wins and nominations as the references are already present in the tables. The references about the awards themselves should stay.

Done I've only left refs for award galas without an own article or if there was any other info mentioned about the award that needed support from a ref.

@Cartoon network freak: You still need to include references for the definitions for the awards even if they have a Wikipedia article so please add those back per my original comment. The lead itself still needs a lot of work and revision and I will provide a more thorough review of its prose later in the day. Aoba47 (talk) 16:23, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Cartoon network freak: Good job with this list. Once my comments are addressed, I will read through it again. My primary concerns are with the lead, which has several prose and sentence construction issues that need to be corrected/revised. Hope this helps. The actual list itself seems really good. Aoba47 (talk) 03:18, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Aoba47: Thanks for your review! Please let me know your follow-up thoughts ;) Best, Cartoon network freak (talk) 16:17, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Cartoon network freak: I will provide a more extensive review of the prose later in the day if that is okay with you as there still some problem areas in the lead that prevent me from fully support this nomination. Aoba47 (talk) 16:25, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I would organize the lead chronologically to help make a cohesive narrative for the reader. Right now, the first paragraph has information about a 2011 award for a 2010 song. This should be moved down to one of the later paragraphs. Aoba47 (talk) 17:28, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Done

I would spell out 13 in this context as it looks odd to have that be the only numeral in the first paragraph. Aoba47 (talk) 17:28, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Done

In the start of the second paragraph, I would include information about her initial record deal if possible. See the Adele example I linked above to see what I mean by this. Aoba47 (talk) 17:28, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not done I have no source to add this information; sorry :(

No worries. I completely understand. Aoba47 (talk) 20:55, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The phrase "native trio" is very odd. What do you mean by "native"? If you mean "Bulgarian", then just say that for clarity. Aoba47 (talk) 17:28, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Done

Remove "itself" in the phrase "the record itself" as it is unnecessary. Aoba47 (talk) 17:28, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Done

Just say "singles" instead of "single releases". "Single releases" is unnecessarily long. Aoba47 (talk) 17:28, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Done

Could you go into more detail about the awards and nominations from her first album. You only devote a sentence to it, and I believe that it should be expanded. Aoba47 (talk) 17:28, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not done She only received a single nomination for the album at the RRA Awards, so there is in fact nothing to expand.

Makes sense, thank you for the clarification. Aoba47 (talk) 20:55, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I would put the phrase "her second studio album" in front of the album's name for clarity. Aoba47 (talk) 17:28, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Done

I do not know what you mean by the transition "The same year" as you list two years (2010 and 2011) in the previous sentence. Do you mean 2010 or 2011 by this? Aoba47 (talk) 17:28, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Done

Could you also expand on the awards and nominations she received for her second studio album? You only have a brief sentence about one award, and this should be expanded if possible to not give undue emphasis on a singular award. Aoba47 (talk) 17:28, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Done

Eliminate "for purchase" in the phrase "made available for purchase" as it is unnecessary. Aoba47 (talk) 17:28, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Done

Please include any information about the awards and nominations associated with the third and fourth albums in the lead. Aoba47 (talk) 17:28, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Done She only won awards with her third album

The sentence about "P.O.H.U.I." needs to be revised as it reads awkwardly to me. It also comes out of nowhere following the brief statement about the third and fourth studio albums so a transition would be helpful in this case. Aoba47 (talk) 17:28, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Done Tried to do both things

I think you should include information about the awards and nominations for "P.O.H.U.I." in the lead, but provide a more comprehensive overview of its awards and nominations. You only include one nomination in the lead, but it was also up for other awards.

Done Included the other award received

This question is not specifically relevant to this review, but do you think that "P.O.H.U.I." is notable enough to have its own article or at least a red link? Aoba47 (talk) 17:28, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I may make an article about it this weekend. It really is notable, you're right :)

Good luck with it. If you put it up for GAN, let me know and I will review it. Aoba47 (talk) 03:37, 14 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I would move the sentence "Diggy Down" closer to the sentence on its parent album to make the connection clear. Aoba47 (talk) 17:28, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Done

In the lead, I would recommend including a sentence or two about the awards and nominations that the singer has receive outside of her music career, such as those for her style or her dancing, to provide a more comprehensive overview of the awards and nominations. Aoba47 (talk) 17:28, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Done

@Cartoon network freak: I have added additional comments above. Also, remember to address my responses to my original comments. One of my main issues is that there is not enough of an overview of the actual awards and nominations in the lead. It lists the albums and includes one or two notes about its awards and/or nominations, but this needs to be expanded. Please refer to a FL on a similar topic and use that as an example for the expansion. Aoba47 (talk) 17:28, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Aoba47: The lead is in a MUCH better shape now. Please check it out again! I'm going to add refs for the award definitions tomorrow. Best, Cartoon network freak (talk) 20:25, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Cartoon network freak: Thank you for the prompt responses. I have also made some edits/revisions to the lead as well. Ping me once you have added the references for the award definitions and I will look through it again and most likely support this nomination. Thank you for your patience while going through my rather long review. You have done an excellent job. I have to admit that I have never heard of this singer until reading through your work on here lol. Aoba47 (talk) 20:54, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Aoba47: I've added the sources for the awards. Inna is not big in the US, she's only had a few Dance Airplay hits there ;) Best, Cartoon network freak (talk) 06:05, 14 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Support: Thank you for your patience with this review as I know it was rather long and drawn-out. I think the list, specifically the lead, has been improved a great deal and I could support this as a FL. Good luck with getting this promoted. Aoba47 (talk) 15:34, 14 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from The Rambling Man[edit]

Resolved comments from TRM
Oppose with regret Image caption is a fragment so no full stop required. Done Cartoon network freak (talk) 05:34, 13 April 2017 (UTC)[reply] "Romanian singer-songwriter Inna has received various awards and nominations. " maybe worth contextualising her career, e.g. let us know when she first became prominent, is she still active etc? Not done The article initially included more about her bio, but the previous reviewer suggested that I should leave that out, e.g. I have inspired myself from this featured list. Cartoon network freak (talk) 05:34, 13 April 2017 (UTC)[reply] It's simple enough to say "whose ongoing career started in xxxx with yyyy". That way everyone wins. The Rambling Man (talk) 14:53, 13 April 2017 (UTC)[reply] I would agree with a short/brief part being added about this. Aoba47 (talk) 16:39, 14 April 2017 (UTC)[reply] If Media Music awards aren't notable enough for a Wikipedia article, why should they be listed here? Not done See below... Cartoon network freak (talk) 05:34, 13 April 2017 (UTC)[reply] Similarly, all the other awards which don't have a Wikipedia article, I'd question why they should be listed. Or alternatively red link them, and even better, create articles about them to demonstrate why they're notable enough for inclusion here. Not done Wait... You confused me. Isn't this list here to include all the awards won by the respective singer? For example, this featured list has many awards without an own article, and nearly all the awards here keep a certain level of notability even without an own page. Cartoon network freak (talk) 05:34, 13 April 2017 (UTC)[reply] Not if the awards aren't notable. Inna could have won hundreds of inconsequential awards that aren't handled in this list, what I'm saying shouldn't be that confusing, if an award isn't notable enough for Wikipedia to have an article on it, then why should it be notable enough for these lists. I would remove the non-notable awards from the Adele list, which I didn't review. The Rambling Man (talk) 14:55, 13 April 2017 (UTC)[reply] I agree with the above statement. Awards that are not deemed notable enough by Wikipedia standards should be removed. I have received a similar note while working on List of awards and nominations received by Sharon Stone. Aoba47 (talk) 16:41, 14 April 2017 (UTC)[reply] Bob Sinclair is a dab link. Done Cartoon network freak (talk) 05:34, 13 April 2017 (UTC)[reply] "ultimately lost in the favor of " not normal English, it would be "ultimately lost out to" or "ultimately lost in favor of", preferably the former. Done Cartoon network freak (talk) 05:34, 13 April 2017 (UTC)[reply] "she was awarded with the Special International award." awarded with the award? Not brilliant English, maybe the first "awarded" could be "presented"? Done Cartoon network freak (talk) 05:34, 13 April 2017 (UTC)[reply] Split the refs by \|30em, not \|2. Done Cartoon network freak (talk) 05:34, 13 April 2017 (UTC)[reply] My oppose is based on the non-notable awards issue. The Rambling Man (talk) 23:20, 12 April 2017 (UTC)[reply] @The Rambling Man: Thank you for your review! Check out my responses to your comments. Best regards, Cartoon network freak (talk) 05:34, 13 April 2017 (UTC)[reply] @The Rambling Man: Finally done all your points (sorry for the delay!). There are still two awards that are notable but don't have an article, but the rest has been removed as suggested by you. Please ping be back! Best regards, Cartoon network freak (talk) 18:23, 22 April 2017 (UTC)[reply] I see five, and how do I (or the readers) know that any such awards without articles are notable? The Rambling Man (talk) 12:57, 24 April 2017 (UTC)[reply] @The Rambling Man: Is it ok now? Cartoon network freak (talk) 15:00, 24 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from TRM

Oppose with regret

Image caption is a fragment so no full stop required.

Done Cartoon network freak (talk) 05:34, 13 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"Romanian singer-songwriter Inna has received various awards and nominations. " maybe worth contextualising her career, e.g. let us know when she first became prominent, is she still active etc?

Not done The article initially included more about her bio, but the previous reviewer suggested that I should leave that out, e.g. I have inspired myself from this featured list. Cartoon network freak (talk) 05:34, 13 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It's simple enough to say "whose ongoing career started in xxxx with yyyy". That way everyone wins. The Rambling Man (talk) 14:53, 13 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I would agree with a short/brief part being added about this. Aoba47 (talk) 16:39, 14 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

If Media Music awards aren't notable enough for a Wikipedia article, why should they be listed here?

Not done See below... Cartoon network freak (talk) 05:34, 13 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Similarly, all the other awards which don't have a Wikipedia article, I'd question why they should be listed. Or alternatively red link them, and even better, create articles about them to demonstrate why they're notable enough for inclusion here.

Not done Wait... You confused me. Isn't this list here to include all the awards won by the respective singer? For example, this featured list has many awards without an own article, and nearly all the awards here keep a certain level of notability even without an own page. Cartoon network freak (talk) 05:34, 13 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not if the awards aren't notable. Inna could have won hundreds of inconsequential awards that aren't handled in this list, what I'm saying shouldn't be that confusing, if an award isn't notable enough for Wikipedia to have an article on it, then why should it be notable enough for these lists. I would remove the non-notable awards from the Adele list, which I didn't review. The Rambling Man (talk) 14:55, 13 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with the above statement. Awards that are not deemed notable enough by Wikipedia standards should be removed. I have received a similar note while working on List of awards and nominations received by Sharon Stone. Aoba47 (talk) 16:41, 14 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Bob Sinclair is a dab link.

Done Cartoon network freak (talk) 05:34, 13 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"ultimately lost in the favor of " not normal English, it would be "ultimately lost out to" or "ultimately lost in favor of", preferably the former.

Done Cartoon network freak (talk) 05:34, 13 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"she was awarded with the Special International award." awarded with the award? Not brilliant English, maybe the first "awarded" could be "presented"?

Done Cartoon network freak (talk) 05:34, 13 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Split the refs by |30em, not |2.

Done Cartoon network freak (talk) 05:34, 13 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

My oppose is based on the non-notable awards issue. The Rambling Man (talk) 23:20, 12 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@The Rambling Man: Thank you for your review! Check out my responses to your comments. Best regards, Cartoon network freak (talk) 05:34, 13 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@The Rambling Man: Finally done all your points (sorry for the delay!). There are still two awards that are notable but don't have an article, but the rest has been removed as suggested by you. Please ping be back! Best regards, Cartoon network freak (talk) 18:23, 22 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I see five, and how do I (or the readers) know that any such awards without articles are notable? The Rambling Man (talk) 12:57, 24 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@The Rambling Man: Is it ok now? Cartoon network freak (talk) 15:00, 24 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Harrias[edit]

Resolved comments from Harrias ^talk
Just to pick up on a point from The Rambling Man above; I think more information about Inna is required in the lead. The Featured list criteria require "an engaging lead that introduces the subject". At the moment, the lead doesn't even tell me what sort of music she performs. Is she an opera singer?? Roughly how old was she when she started performing? Harrias ^talk 17:30, 26 April 2017 (UTC)[reply] @Harrias: I'm currently waiting on the response of The Rambling Man. Is the lead ok now? Cartoon network freak (talk) 18:11, 26 April 2017 (UTC)[reply] That seems a more appropriate introduction, thanks. Harrias ^talk 10:28, 29 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Harrias ^talk

Just to pick up on a point from The Rambling Man above; I think more information about Inna is required in the lead. The Featured list criteria require "an engaging lead that introduces the subject". At the moment, the lead doesn't even tell me what sort of music she performs. Is she an opera singer?? Roughly how old was she when she started performing? Harrias ^talk 17:30, 26 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Harrias: I'm currently waiting on the response of The Rambling Man. Is the lead ok now? Cartoon network freak (talk) 18:11, 26 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

That seems a more appropriate introduction, thanks. Harrias ^talk 10:28, 29 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Quick ~~oppose~~ at the moment. Harrias ^talk 10:28, 29 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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List of most viewed YouTube videos[edit]

Nominator(s): Daylen (talk) 21:54, 19 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because this list has been viewed almost half a million times, it is being constantly updated with new information as it comes available, contains a lead section which nicely summarises the articles in the list, the entry includes an image, and the facts are well sourced. Daylen (talk) 21:54, 19 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: this nomination was not actually transcluded onto WP:FL until May 25. --Pres N 14:58, 25 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose and considering speedy close- this list is a long way from featured quality. The lead is just a set of short statements with strange formatting instead of a discussion about what's interesting or important about high-view Youtube videos, videos are excluded from the list because they "manipulated" to get high up, which means that the editor in question didn't like the way they got a high view count; most of the interesting comments about the videos are hidden in the notes section instead of a comments column, half of each note and many of the notes entirely don't have references, 63-80 don't even have notes, linking the the videos in question by making it a reference for the video name is odd, sorting by name sorts "The"s wrong, there seems to be a lot of sourcing to non-official "top 100 videos" videos (and I saw one that's to a random google spreadsheet?), the Historical most viewed videos section has 11 videos instead of "all" or "10" for not explained reason... There's a lot to sort out here. --Pres N 15:11, 25 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Agree with above. The list starts with wording we longer use "This list....." Lead needs a major rewrite. I would expect more detail on the videos themselves and categories of videos that have been the most viewed. References to non reliable refs such as a Google Spreadsheet, Hot in Social Media, Quora, Grapevine Online. Table is not accessible. Cowlibob (talk) 16:08, 29 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Daylen: Pinging in case you didn't watchlist this page. With two opposes off the bat, I'm planning on archiving this nomination in a couple days unless someone starts working on the major issues. --Pres N 19:15, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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List of Celtic F.C. players[edit]

Nominator(s): ShugSty (talk) 13:09, 8 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because I have added sources for all appearance info, added photos and some narrative text to give some more context. ShugSty (talk) 13:09, 8 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 13:01, 24 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Comments sorry you've had to wait a month for any comments. Lead is a little brief considering the size of the list - I've added a couple more sentences (ShugSty 20/4/17) I would designate current players with some colour/symbol - I haven't seen this on other List of xxx FC players articles, but it does seem a good idea. I'll see what I can come up with (ShugSty 17/4/17) I've now highlighted the current players in green (ShugSty 20/4/17) Tables need row and col scopes per MOS:DTT - Done (ShugSty 17/4/17) Alec McNair image cannot be used here, has no fair use rationale for inclusion in this specific article - as it was myself who originally uploaded the image to Wikipedia, I've taken the liberty of amending the fair use rationale. The guidelines appear to allow for a non-free image to be used in more than one article, and given the duration of his Celtic career it seems more than reasonable for the image to be used in a list of notable Celtic players. Please advise if this is ok. (ShugSty 17/4/17) It might be okay, but you need to mention (and link) this explicit article title to the fair use rationale on the image page itself. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:59, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply] Any reason why "John "Dixie" Deans" has his nickname included? - I've amended this to "Dixie Deans" as he is generally only ever referred to by his nickname rather than his "real" name of John (ShugSty 17/4/17) And Rab? - I'm inclined to leave this as "Rab Douglas" as he is generally only referred to as Rab rather than Robert (ShugSty 17/4/17) If that really is the case, then the article probably should be moved to his WP:COMMONNAME. The Rambling Man (talk) 06:23, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply] Agghh! I tried, but there's already a redirect page called "Rab Douglas". I'll just change name in list to Robert to keep things simple(r) (ShugSty 20/4/17) Ľubomír Moravčík is missing a few diacritics - amended (ShugSty 17/4/17) Dianbobo Balde is missing his diacritic too - amended (ShugSty 17/4/17) Nir Biton has two t's in his surname - amended (ShugSty 17/4/17) Why separate the club captains? Denote them in the main table and add their victories etc in the notes - I'm keen to keep this table; it details time periods the players were captain (as opposed to just their time at the club) as well as honours won. I wouldn't be overly keen to add their wins into the general table as it would probably be a bit unwieldy (ShugSty 17/4/17) Many of those footnotes need inline references - actually all the footnotes are referenced in the table itself, although I could also include them on the list of footnotes itself (ShugSty 17/4/17) * Actually, due to the way I've set up the footnotes, I can't place a citation in the list of footnotes itself (ShugSty 20/4/17) The Rambling Man (talk) 23:44, 12 April 2017 (UTC)[reply] More: "The Celtic Football Club" I've never heard it referred to as "The ...", is that something I should be aware of? In any case, it's not the title of the article, or even close so I'd unbold it and link Celtic F.C. in there instead - Done (ShugSty 20/4/17) Sorry, still think the lead is a little too brief. Add something about captains in there? Done (ShugSty 21/4/17) "He is also the record goalscorer in British football..." is that explicitly referenced somewhere? - Yep, there's a note and an inline citation in the "Notes" section of the table for him (ShugSty 20/4/17) The asterisk is missing from the current players - Not keen on having an asterisk, so I've removed it (ShugSty 20/4/17) No, you need a symbol as well as the colour per WP:ACCESS. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:37, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply] Okey, dokey; asterisk back into key and added to current players (ShugSty 20/4/17) Hyphens in the captains table could be converted to en-dashes - Done (ShugSty 20/4/17) The Rambling Man (talk) 18:59, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 13:01, 24 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comments sorry you've had to wait a month for any comments.

Lead is a little brief considering the size of the list - I've added a couple more sentences (ShugSty 20/4/17)
I would designate current players with some colour/symbol - I haven't seen this on other List of xxx FC players articles, but it does seem a good idea. I'll see what I can come up with (ShugSty 17/4/17) I've now highlighted the current players in green (ShugSty 20/4/17)
Tables need row and col scopes per MOS:DTT - Done (ShugSty 17/4/17)
Alec McNair image cannot be used here, has no fair use rationale for inclusion in this specific article - as it was myself who originally uploaded the image to Wikipedia, I've taken the liberty of amending the fair use rationale. The guidelines appear to allow for a non-free image to be used in more than one article, and given the duration of his Celtic career it seems more than reasonable for the image to be used in a list of notable Celtic players. Please advise if this is ok. (ShugSty 17/4/17)
It might be okay, but you need to mention (and link) this explicit article title to the fair use rationale on the image page itself. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:59, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Any reason why "John "Dixie" Deans" has his nickname included? - I've amended this to "Dixie Deans" as he is generally only ever referred to by his nickname rather than his "real" name of John (ShugSty 17/4/17)
And Rab? - I'm inclined to leave this as "Rab Douglas" as he is generally only referred to as Rab rather than Robert (ShugSty 17/4/17)
If that really is the case, then the article probably should be moved to his WP:COMMONNAME. The Rambling Man (talk) 06:23, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Agghh! I tried, but there's already a redirect page called "Rab Douglas". I'll just change name in list to Robert to keep things simple(r) (ShugSty 20/4/17)
Ľubomír Moravčík is missing a few diacritics - amended (ShugSty 17/4/17)
Dianbobo Balde is missing his diacritic too - amended (ShugSty 17/4/17)
Nir Biton has two t's in his surname - amended (ShugSty 17/4/17)
Why separate the club captains? Denote them in the main table and add their victories etc in the notes - I'm keen to keep this table; it details time periods the players were captain (as opposed to just their time at the club) as well as honours won. I wouldn't be overly keen to add their wins into the general table as it would probably be a bit unwieldy (ShugSty 17/4/17)
Many of those footnotes need inline references - actually all the footnotes are referenced in the table itself, although I could also include them on the list of footnotes itself (ShugSty 17/4/17) * Actually, due to the way I've set up the footnotes, I can't place a citation in the list of footnotes itself (ShugSty 20/4/17)

The Rambling Man (talk) 23:44, 12 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"The Celtic Football Club" I've never heard it referred to as "The ...", is that something I should be aware of? In any case, it's not the title of the article, or even close so I'd unbold it and link Celtic F.C. in there instead - Done (ShugSty 20/4/17)
Sorry, still think the lead is a little too brief. Add something about captains in there? Done (ShugSty 21/4/17)
"He is also the record goalscorer in British football..." is that explicitly referenced somewhere? - Yep, there's a note and an inline citation in the "Notes" section of the table for him (ShugSty 20/4/17)
The asterisk is missing from the current players - Not keen on having an asterisk, so I've removed it (ShugSty 20/4/17)
No, you need a symbol as well as the colour per WP:ACCESS. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:37, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Okey, dokey; asterisk back into key and added to current players (ShugSty 20/4/17)
Hyphens in the captains table could be converted to en-dashes - Done (ShugSty 20/4/17)

The Rambling Man (talk) 18:59, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Harrias
;Comments from Harrias ^talk I think the lead could do with clarifying "Lisbon Lions" slightly. It sounds as though that's another football team altogether. I know there is a link which explains it, but for Featured content I think it should be made clearer in the article. Maybe something like "part of the Celtic team nicknamed the "Lisbon Lions""? - Done (ShugSty 25/4/17) Ref #6 needs an access date - Done (ShugSty 25/4/17) Ref #13 needs a author details and published date - Done (ShugSty 25/4/17) Ref #16 needs a publication date - Done (ShugSty 25/4/17) Ref #26 needs an access date - Done (ShugSty 25/4/17) Ref #31, "Meet our latest Weekend Wonder: Paul Elliott", doesn't seem to have anything about Paul Elliott? - hmmm, looks like the link is now dead and just reverting to the website's home page. I'll see if there's an archive copy of the article on Wayback (ShugSty 25/4/17) Sorted (ShugSty 25.4.17) Mostly nitpicking from me really; this is a top piece of work. Harrias ^talk 00:20, 25 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Harrias

;Comments from Harrias ^talk

I think the lead could do with clarifying "Lisbon Lions" slightly. It sounds as though that's another football team altogether. I know there is a link which explains it, but for Featured content I think it should be made clearer in the article. Maybe something like "part of the Celtic team nicknamed the "Lisbon Lions""? - Done (ShugSty 25/4/17)
Ref #6 needs an access date - Done (ShugSty 25/4/17)
Ref #13 needs a author details and published date - Done (ShugSty 25/4/17)
Ref #16 needs a publication date - Done (ShugSty 25/4/17)
Ref #26 needs an access date - Done (ShugSty 25/4/17)
Ref #31, "Meet our latest Weekend Wonder: Paul Elliott", doesn't seem to have anything about Paul Elliott? - hmmm, looks like the link is now dead and just reverting to the website's home page. I'll see if there's an archive copy of the article on Wayback (ShugSty 25/4/17) Sorted (ShugSty 25.4.17)

Mostly nitpicking from me really; this is a top piece of work. Harrias ^talk 00:20, 25 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

What makes the Vale of Leven website a reliable source? It looks self-published to me? - it seems to be run by a group of local historians in that area, the articles there seem to be of a fair quality. Not sure I can definitively confirm it as a reliable source, but is there anything to suggest the content there is unreliable? (ShugSty 25/4/17)
- It has a button to "Contribute content" and no evidence of what WP:SOURCE asks for: "a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy." It is probably fine, but for a Featured article, I'd rather see a more robust source for this information, if possible. Harrias ^talk 10:27, 29 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Done (ShugSty 1/5/17)

Comments from Dweller

Forgive me if some of this goes over old ground.

The inclusion criteria are >100 games or "regarded as having played a significant role for the club". Can you defend the arbitrariness of the former and the apparent POV of the latter? The "100 apps" is a standard for lists for other clubs. I agree that the latter may be considered POV, hence the notes column with explanation & reference. (ShugSty 19/5/17)
Did you know that Jimmy McGrory is the record goalscorer in British football with 550 goals? I didn't. But there's no need to tell me on no fewer than three occasions. Arguably, in an article about Celtic records, not British ones, you could not mention it at all. Once will suffice. Uh? Ok, its highlighted in the lead paragraph and in the caption for the mugshot for him. And the third is in the notes column which highlights a player's notability (and includes the required reference). (ShugSty 19/5/17)
"Henrik Larsson has more appearances for Celtic than any other overseas player." Packie Bonner has more. Which seas are you including? In UK, overseas refers to outwith British Isles (GB + Ireland); I've wiki-linked overseas to British Isles if that helps (ShugSty 19/5/17) I've now rephrased to ".. player from outwith British Isles..." for further clarity (ShugSty 19/5/17)
"He effectively founded the Kelly dynasty of directors at Celtic, who by and large controlled the club until 1994" I can't see what the cited source says, but the "effectively" is an alarm bell for me. Either he did or didn't. And I'm not sure what "by and large" implies - could mean there were periods that the family weren't controlling the club, or could mean that the family didn't really control the club. Well, he didn't intentionally form a dynasty, simply several of his descendants went on to feature in the board over the next 90 odd years, hence "effectively". Also, the family didn't by themselves ever have full control of the club, but were very dominant. (ShugSty 19/5/17)
The mention of Scottish caps right at the end of the lead begs questions about most Scottish caps and most others. Uh?? Oh,a ctually, I get what you mean now. Pat Bonner won the most caps whilst at Celtic, whilst I think Paul McStay won the most Scottish caps. These facts are mentioned (and reffed) in another article, so yes, I'll add a sentence or two shortly (ShugSty 19/5/17) Done (ShugSty 19/5/17)
The captions are generally too long and too repetitive of the text. I'd add that I find the need for referencing in captions odd. The text that should be cited should be in body copy. Yep, I'll try and sort out (ShugSty 19/5/17) Trimmed the captions a bit, and moved the references elsewhere. (ShugSty 19/5/17)
Footnote 1 - what makes FitbaStats reliable and what's the link? ~~Refer earlier response to Harrias (ShugSty 19/5/17)~~ Apologies! It was another article's review I responded to for a similar question. Anyway, FitbaStats has been going since 2010 and I find it to be a superb reference for Scottish football stats. One of the co-founders (Bobby Sinnet) also is the author of two published books about Hibernian F.C. (ShugSty 19/5/17)

Cheers --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 09:42, 19 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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NWA World Welterweight Championship[edit]

Nominator(s): MPJ-DK 13:27, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because I believe both the prose and the actual article meets the mark for Featured List. I have had two unsuccessful nominations where I incorporated all the great feedback I got, sadly it was archived both times to do lack of participation and not any issues with content. I have also recently gone through the article and made improvements to the data used for some of the sources per a recommendation of a FAC of mine. As always I am open to suggestions and willing to work with any reasonable request and do any leg work needed to get this to FL status. MPJ-DK 13:27, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

am going to withdraw this, I have some sourcing work that I did not realize needs to be addressed. Since there have been no reviewes I assume I can simply close this myself?
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