Its AFD debate agreed to do so. Johnleemk | Talk 09:51, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
ModelCitizen: could you please post the full set of moves for that Fruit-Fritz game that you posted an image of? (The game seems quite strange) Hayne
Model Citizen responded to my above request on my talk page, supplying the missing moves. Here's a PGN of the whole game, with some notes I added while analyzing it with Hiarcs 10 - it seems strange that Fritz would go out of book so early (with an arguable bad move) and also make so many small and large mistakes latter on. [Event "ModelCitizen game from Fritz Wikipedia page"] [Site "?"] [Date "2006.01.05"] [Round "?"] [White "Fruit2.2"] [Black "Fritz8"] [Result "1-0"] [Annotator "Hiarcs 10"] 1. e4 Nf6 2. e5 Nd5 3. d4 d6 4. Nf3 Nc6 5. Bb5 Bf5 {Fritz goes out of book - mainline is} (5... a6 {Hiarcs evals the game position as +1.1 for White}) 6. O-O a6 7. Bxc6+ bxc6 8. Nh4 Qd7 9. Re1 Bg4 10. Qd3 dxe5 11. h3 Be6 12. dxe5 Nb4 13. Qe4 Rb8 14. Nc3 c5 15. Rd1 Qc6 16. Qe2 Nd5 {Hiarcs says this was a mistake. It suggested instead} (16... g5 17. Bxg5 Rg8 {With the game move, Hiarcs eval is +1.9 for White}) 17. Ne4 h6 {Hiarcs says this was a mistake. It suggested instead} (17... Nb6 {eval is now +2.6 for White}) 18. c4 Nb6 19. Qf3 Qa8 20. b3 Nd7 21. Bb2 a5 {Hiarcs says this is a mistake. It suggests instead} (21... g6) 22. Rd3 a4 {Again Hiarcs says Black needs to do} (22... g6 {eval now +3.0 for White}) 23. Rad1 Qa5 {Hiarcs says this is a mistake (eval now +3.6 for White). It suggests instead} (23... Rh7) 24. Nf5 axb3 25. axb3 Qb6 26. Nfg3 Rd8 {Hiarcs says this is a huge mistake (eval now +8.6 for White). Again it suggests} (26... g6 {although Black is already lost (eval +4.5 for White)}) 27. Nh5 c6 28. Nf4 Bf5 29. e6 Rh7 30. exf7+ Kxf7 31. Ng3 Bxd3 32. Nd5+ 1-0
Model Citizen mentioned that the opening book had been disabled for Fritz - so that explains move 5. But the other small and large mistakes pointed out above make it seem like there must have been something else wrong with Fritz during this game. I don't have Fritz available to me, but don't think this game properly represents Fritz's abilities and I strongly recommend that the image of this game be replaced with another one that is more representative. - Hayne 15:05, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
The reference for my edit adding the clarification about the Fritz-Deep Thought match (that Fritz' opening book was what accounted for the win) was the news page reporting on that tournament at that time: http://www.cs.unimaas.nl/icga/news/events/pastevents/WCCC8/latest.html That page seems not to be currently available from that URL but it is accessible via Google's cacahe: http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:www.cs.unimaas.nl/icga/news/events/pastevents/WCCC8/latest.html I believe I also read about this in Hsu's book about Deep Blue (Behind Deep Blue) but my copy is currently out on loan so I'll have to wait to cite this source. - Hayne 09:12, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
I edited the main page to add some information about Pocket Fritz. I mentioned Chessbase's lack of support with this product. (Chessbase have changed their online database, so a feature that did work in Pocket Fritz 2, no longer does). There was a link to this as a newgroup article, but someone added "citation needed". I've changed the link slightly, so it's a bit more obvious, but it was there before on the same web page. This was quoted in an email I received from Chessbase. The actual sentance is "I informed the developers again. The feature does not have a high priority, but it should naturally work! I hope that clarifies this.
From Peter Schreiner ChessBase GmbH
I informed the developers again. The feature does not have a high priority, but it should naturally work !
Kind regards -Peter Schreiner
There are many Fritz articles floating around in Wikipedia-land. They're short enough to be all combined here. Xiner 21:18, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
They should be merged.--JStripes 22:19, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
I say merge them both. X3D Fritz is just another version of Fritz with some eye candy that got added to Fritz later. Fritz & Chesster isn't even close to being notable; it deserves a single line in the Fritz entry at best. Guymacon 14:35, 7 June 2007 (UTC) I
The latest version for Deep Fritz needs to be updated to 11. I am not sure about the release date though. See link for version info.
http://www.chessbase.com/shop/product.asp?pid=413&user=&coin= —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.92.195.202 (talk) 11:36, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
The article says "Kramnik played surprisingly weak". I asked for a citation. A link was given to his bad blunder in one game. That was a surprizingly bad move, but otherwise he didn't play weakly, as far as I can tell. Is there a reference to his playing weakly throughout the match? Bubba73 (talk), 15:13, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
I just wanted to add, that the result of the match can not be considered as being an overwhelming victory for the chess engine. In German media (I don't have any usable citation) there were remarks, that Kramnik didn't play with the concentration and the commitment like he used to do it in his championship match againt Topalow. Commenting every single move is not the intention of this article, but I think, that a blunder like this is a good example for my doubts, that he took that all really seriously. Remove it, if you think this shouldn't be mentioned. Bye... Strafrechtler 13:59, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
You could just as easily conclude that he took the game too seriously and was intimidated by the computer. "Weak", "concentration" and "commitment" are matters of opinion, and should have citations showing that recognized chess experts hold those opinions. Guymacon 14:35, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
The following one:
Now, this is interesting, but: 1) has absolutely nothing to do with Fritz, even if the allegations were true, and 2) is covered elsewhere in greater detail (both World Chess Championship 2006 and Veselin Topalov). And yes, there's: 3) the reasoning in the last sentence is faulty: one can not "infer" a theory which is consistent but not possible (Capa cheating with CM9000 in 1918 while presumably not moving away from the board), but one certainly can infer a theory that is both consistent and possible (Kramnik going many times to his private bathroom and consulting Fritz) - but this story belongs elsewhere anyway. GregorB (talk) 19:11, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
![]() |
An image used in this article, File:Fritz13-05a.gif, has been nominated for speedy deletion for the following reason: All Wikipedia files with unknown copyright status
Don't panic; you should have time to contest the deletion (although please review deletion guidelines before doing so). The best way to contest this form of deletion is by posting on the image talk page.
This notification is provided by a Bot --CommonsNotificationBot (talk) 12:37, 12 January 2012 (UTC) |
"Fritz" shouldn't be italicised, as it is at the top of this article and its infobox. What can be done about that? Toccata quarta (talk) 16:35, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified 2 external links on Fritz (chess). Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template ((source check))
(last update: 5 June 2024).
Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 07:05, 8 October 2017 (UTC)