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Wagino Bot pirembagan 5 April 2015 16.16 (UTC)
ꦒꦿꦺꦗꦪꦺꦱꦸꦱ꧀ꦱꦗꦠꦶ
[besut sumber]ꦒꦿꦺꦗꦪꦺꦱꦸꦱ꧀ꦱꦗꦠꦶꦲꦶꦏꦸꦱꦮꦶꦗꦶꦤꦶꦁꦒꦿꦺꦗꦤꦺꦴꦤ꧀ꦝꦺꦤꦺꦴꦩꦶꦤꦱꦶ꧌ꦩꦤ꧀ꦝꦶꦫꦶ꧍ꦱꦶꦁꦢꦶꦲꦢꦼꦒ꧀ꦒꦏꦺꦲꦶꦁꦧꦺꦆꦗꦶꦁ꧈ꦠꦶꦪꦺꦴꦁꦏꦺꦴꦏ꧀ꦠꦲꦸꦤ꧀꧇꧑꧙꧑꧗꧇꧉ꦒꦿꦺꦗꦲꦶꦏꦶꦲꦺꦴꦭꦺꦃꦲꦺꦮꦶꦮꦶꦠ꧀ꦲꦶꦁꦠꦶꦪꦺꦴꦁꦏꦺꦴꦏ꧀ꦏꦶꦫꦏꦶꦫꦠꦲꦸꦤ꧀꧇꧑꧙꧐꧐꧇꧈ꦲꦶꦁꦲꦤ꧀ꦠꦫꦤꦺꦒꦿꦺꦗꦒꦿꦺꦗꦥꦿꦺꦴꦠꦺꦱ꧀ꦠꦤ꧀꧈ꦏꦩꦁꦏꦲꦶꦢꦺꦪꦺꦴꦭꦺꦴꦒꦶꦤꦺꦲꦝꦼꦝꦱꦂꦒꦼꦫꦏꦤ꧀ꦥꦺꦤ꧀ꦠꦏꦺꦴꦱ꧀ꦠ꧉ ꦲꦶꦁꦠꦲꦸꦤ꧀꧇꧑꧙꧓꧙꧇꧈ꦆꦚ꧀ꦗꦶꦭ꧀ꦮꦶꦮꦶꦠ꧀ꦢꦶꦑꦺꦴꦠ꧀ꦧꦲꦃꦲꦏꦺꦲꦶꦁꦆꦤ꧀ꦢꦺꦴꦤꦺꦱꦶꦪꦭꦤ꧀ꦒꦿꦺꦗꦪꦺꦱꦸꦱ꧀ꦱꦗꦠꦶꦮꦶꦮꦶꦠ꧀ꦢꦶꦲꦢꦼꦒ꧀ꦒꦏꦺꦲꦶꦁꦆꦤ꧀ꦢꦺꦴꦤꦺꦱꦶꦪ꧉ ꦲꦶꦁꦠꦲꦸꦤ꧀꧇꧑꧙꧖꧗꧇꧈ꦥꦒꦸꦪꦸꦧ꧀ꦧꦤ꧀ꦩꦚ꧀ꦕꦤꦒꦫꦒꦿꦺꦗꦲꦶꦏꦶꦢꦶꦧꦔꦸꦤ꧀ꦲꦶꦁLos Angeles꧈ꦄꦩꦺꦫꦶꦏꦱꦫꦺꦏꦠ꧀꧉ꦏꦧꦺꦃꦲꦁꦒꦺꦴꦠꦒꦿꦺꦗꦲꦶꦏꦶꦲꦤꦏꦶꦫꦏꦶꦫꦏꦫꦺꦴꦠꦼꦔꦃꦪꦸꦠꦭꦤ꧀ꦲꦁꦒꦺꦴꦠꦤꦺꦏꦱꦼꦧꦂꦲꦶꦁ꧇꧕꧇ꦧꦮꦤ꧉
ꦏꦱꦺꦥꦸꦭꦸꦃꦥꦿꦏꦫꦏꦥꦂꦕꦪꦤ꧀
[besut sumber]ꦏꦱꦺꦥꦸꦭꦸꦃꦏꦥꦂꦕꦪꦤ꧀ꦒꦿꦺꦗꦪꦺꦱꦸꦱ꧀ꦱꦗꦠꦶꦱꦶꦁꦮꦶꦒꦠꦶꦝꦺꦮꦺꦲꦶꦏꦸ:
- ꦒꦸꦱ꧀ꦠꦶꦪꦺꦱꦸꦱ꧀ꦏꦿꦶꦱ꧀ꦠꦸꦱ꧀꧈ꦱꦧ꧀ꦢꦱꦶꦁꦢꦢꦶꦢꦒꦶꦁ꧈ꦲꦶꦏꦸꦱꦺꦢꦲꦶꦁꦏꦪꦸꦱꦭꦶꦧ꧀ꦏꦁꦒꦺꦴꦤꦺꦧꦸꦱ꧀ꦮꦺꦴꦁꦮꦺꦴꦁꦢꦺꦴꦱ꧈ꦧꦚ꧀ꦗꦸꦂꦮꦸꦔꦸꦩꦤꦺꦃꦲꦶꦁꦢꦶꦤꦏꦥꦶꦁꦠꦺꦭꦸꦭꦤ꧀ꦩꦶꦏꦿꦢ꧀ꦲꦶꦁꦱ꧀ꦮꦂꦒ꧉ꦩꦸꦭꦤꦺꦥꦚ꧀ꦗꦺꦤꦺꦔꦤꦺꦱꦠꦸꦁꦒꦭ꧀ꦠꦸꦁꦒꦭꦺꦗꦸꦫꦸꦱ꧀ꦭꦩꦺꦠ꧀ꦩꦤꦸꦁꦱ꧈ꦥꦚ꧀ꦕꦶꦥ꧀ꦠꦭꦔꦶꦠ꧀ꦢꦤ꧀ꦧꦸꦩꦶ꧈ꦭꦤ꧀ꦱꦠꦸꦁꦒꦭ꧀ꦠꦸꦁꦒꦭꦺꦄꦭ꧀ꦭꦃꦱꦗꦠꦶ
- ꦄꦭ꧀ꦏꦶꦠꦧ꧀ꦲꦶꦏꦸꦠꦺꦂꦢꦶꦫꦶꦱꦏꦥꦿꦗꦚ꧀ꦗꦶꦪꦤ꧀ꦭꦮꦱ꧀ꦢꦤ꧀ꦥꦿꦗꦚ꧀ꦗꦶꦪꦤ꧀ꦄꦚꦂ꧈ꦱꦶꦁꦢꦷꦭ꧀ꦲꦩꦶꦢꦺꦤꦶꦁꦄꦭ꧀ꦭꦃ꧈ꦭꦤ꧀ꦱꦶꦗꦶꦱꦶꦗꦶꦤꦺꦏꦧꦺꦤꦺꦫꦤ꧀ꦄꦭ꧀ꦏꦶꦠꦧꦶꦪꦃ꧈ꦭꦤ꧀ꦲꦸꦏꦸꦫꦤ꧀ꦏꦁꦒꦺꦴꦲꦸꦫꦶꦥꦺꦮꦺꦴꦁꦏꦿꦶꦱ꧀ꦠꦺꦤ꧀꧉
- ꦏꦱ꧀ꦭꦩꦺꦠꦤ꧀ꦢꦶꦥꦫꦶꦔꦏꦺꦢꦺꦤꦶꦁꦲꦤꦸꦒꦿꦃꦄꦭ꧀ꦭꦃꦭꦶꦮꦠ꧀ꦆꦩꦤ꧀꧉ꦮꦺꦴꦁꦱꦶꦁꦥꦺꦂꦕꦪꦏꦸꦢꦸꦔꦤ꧀ꦢꦭꦏꦺꦫꦺꦴꦃꦏꦸꦢꦸꦱ꧀ꦱꦸꦕꦶꦏꦁꦒꦺꦴꦲꦸꦫꦶꦥ꧀ꦲꦶꦁꦏꦱꦸꦕꦺꦤ꧀꧈ꦏꦁꦒꦺꦴꦩꦸꦩꦸꦭꦺꦤꦶꦄꦭ꧀ꦭꦃ꧈ꦭꦤ꧀ꦏꦁꦒꦺꦴꦤꦿꦺꦱ꧀ꦤꦤꦶꦥꦺꦥꦝꦤꦺꦩꦤꦸꦁꦱ꧉
- ꦧꦥ꧀ꦠꦶꦱꦤ꧀ꦧꦚꦸꦲꦶꦏꦸꦱꦏꦿꦩꦺꦤ꧀ꦏꦁꦒꦺꦴꦔꦶꦭꦔꦶꦢꦺꦴꦱꦏꦁꦒꦺꦴꦭꦻꦂꦩꦤꦺꦃ꧉ꦧꦥ꧀ꦠꦶꦱꦤ꧀ꦏꦸꦢꦸꦢꦶꦭꦏꦺꦴꦏꦏꦺꦲꦶꦁꦧꦚꦸꦱꦶꦁꦩꦶꦭꦶꦕꦫꦲꦭꦩꦶ꧈ꦏꦪꦠꦏꦭꦶ꧈ꦱꦺꦒꦫ꧈ꦲꦸꦠꦮꦱꦸꦩ꧀ꦧꦺꦂꦧꦚꦸ꧉ꦥꦺꦩ꧀ꦧꦥ꧀ꦠꦶꦱ꧀ꦱꦶꦁꦮꦶꦱ꧀ꦤꦩ꧀ꦥꦧꦥ꧀ꦠꦶꦱꦤ꧀ꦧꦚꦸꦭꦤ꧀ꦧꦥ꧀ꦠꦶꦱꦤ꧀ꦫꦺꦴꦃꦱꦸꦕꦶ꧈ꦔ꧀ꦭꦏꦺꦴꦏꦏꦺꦧꦥ꧀ꦠꦶꦱꦤ꧀ꦲꦶꦁꦄꦱ꧀ꦩꦤꦶꦁꦒꦸꦱ꧀ꦠꦶꦪꦺꦱꦸꦱ꧀ꦏꦿꦶꦱ꧀ꦠꦸꦱ꧀꧉
- ꦥꦤꦩ꧀ꦥꦤ꧀ꦫꦺꦴꦃꦱꦸꦕꦶ꧈ꦱꦶꦁꦢꦶꦧꦸꦏ꧀ꦠꦺꦏꦏꦺꦔꦁꦒꦺꦴꦧꦱꦫꦺꦴꦃꦲꦶꦏꦸꦗꦩꦶꦤꦤꦺꦮꦺꦴꦁꦏꦁꦒꦺꦴꦲꦺꦴꦭꦺꦃꦏꦺꦫꦠꦺꦴꦤ꧀ꦱꦺꦴꦂꦒ꧉
- ꦱꦏꦿꦩꦺꦤ꧀ꦥꦔꦸꦩ꧀ꦧꦲꦤ꧀ꦱꦶꦏꦶꦭ꧀ꦧꦶꦱꦔ꧀ꦒꦮꦺꦮꦺꦴꦁꦏꦁꦒꦺꦴꦩꦺꦭꦸꦚ꧀ꦗꦸꦥꦸꦏ꧀ꦧꦒꦺꦪꦤ꧀ꦧꦫꦺꦔꦤ꧀ꦏꦫꦺꦴꦒꦸꦱ꧀ꦠꦶꦪꦺꦱꦸꦱ꧀ꦏꦿꦶꦱ꧀ꦠꦸꦱ꧀꧉ꦱꦏꦿꦩꦺꦤ꧀ꦲꦶꦏꦶꦲꦸꦒꦤ꧀ꦢꦸꦮꦺꦥ꦳ꦸꦁꦱꦶꦢꦢꦶꦠꦭꦶꦱꦶꦁꦠꦺꦫꦸꦱ꧀ꦠꦺꦫꦸꦱꦤ꧀ꦤꦭꦺꦤꦶꦮꦺꦴꦁꦪꦺꦤ꧀ꦏꦸꦢꦸꦤ꧀ꦢꦸꦮꦺꦏꦠꦿꦺꦱ꧀ꦤꦤ꧀꧈ꦏꦱꦸꦕꦺꦤ꧀꧈ꦏꦺꦫꦺꦤ꧀ꦢꦲꦤ꧀ꦲꦠꦶ꧈ꦥꦔꦩ꧀ꦥꦸꦤꦤ꧀ꦭꦤ꧀ꦥꦭꦢꦺꦤꦤ꧀꧉
- ꦥꦺꦂꦗꦩꦸꦮꦤ꧀ꦏꦸꦢꦸꦱ꧀ꦲꦶꦏꦸꦱꦏꦿꦩꦺꦤ꧀ꦏꦁꦒꦺꦴꦔꦺꦭꦶꦁꦲꦺꦭꦶꦔꦶꦱꦺꦢꦤꦺꦒꦸꦱ꧀ꦠꦶꦪꦺꦱꦸꦱ꧀ꦏꦿꦶꦱ꧀ꦠꦸꦱ꧀꧉ꦥꦿꦏꦫꦲꦶꦏꦶꦔ꧀ꦒꦮꦺꦮꦺꦴꦁꦧꦶꦱꦚ꧀ꦗꦸꦥꦸꦏ꧀ꦧꦒꦺꦪꦤ꧀ꦲꦶꦁꦢꦒꦶꦁꦭꦤ꧀ꦒꦺꦠꦶꦲꦺꦒꦸꦱ꧀ꦠꦶꦄꦭ꧀ꦭꦃꦭꦤ꧀ꦧꦶꦱꦩꦤꦸꦁꦒꦭ꧀ꦏꦫꦺꦴꦒꦸꦱ꧀ꦠꦶꦱꦸꦥꦪꦲꦺꦴꦭꦺꦃꦲꦸꦫꦶꦥ꧀ꦭꦁꦒꦺꦁꦭꦤ꧀ꦧꦁꦏꦶꦠ꧀ꦩꦤꦺꦃꦤꦭꦶꦏꦏꦶꦪꦩꦠ꧀꧉ꦱꦏꦿꦩꦺꦤ꧀ꦲꦶꦏꦶꦢꦶꦪꦤꦏꦏꦺꦱꦏꦺꦫꦺꦥ꧀ꦏꦺꦫꦺꦥꦺ꧉
- ꦢꦶꦤꦱꦧꦠ꧀ꦲꦶꦏꦸꦢꦶꦤꦏꦥꦶꦁꦥꦶꦠꦸ꧌ꦱꦧ꧀ꦠꦸ꧍꧈ꦭꦤ꧀ꦢꦶꦪꦁꦒꦺꦥ꧀ꦢꦶꦤꦱꦸꦕꦶꦱꦶꦁꦢꦶꦧꦿꦺꦏꦠꦶꦭꦤ꧀ꦢꦶꦱꦸꦕꦺꦏꦏꦺꦢꦺꦤꦶꦁꦒꦸꦱ꧀ꦠꦶꦄꦭ꧀ꦭꦃ꧉ꦢꦶꦤꦱꦧꦠ꧀ꦏꦸꦢꦸꦢꦶꦪꦺꦭꦶꦔꦶꦲꦶꦁꦔꦶꦱꦺꦴꦫꦺꦲꦤꦸꦒꦿꦃꦒꦸꦱ꧀ꦠꦶꦄꦭ꧀ꦭꦃꦏꦁꦒꦺꦴꦔꦺꦭꦶꦁꦲꦺꦭꦶꦁꦥꦚ꧀ꦕꦶꦥ꧀ꦠꦤ꧀ꦭꦤ꧀ꦏꦱ꧀ꦭꦩꦠꦤ꧀ꦱꦏꦒꦸꦱ꧀ꦠꦶꦄꦭ꧀ꦭꦃ꧈ꦭꦤ꧀ꦏꦫꦺꦴꦥꦔꦫꦺꦥꦤ꧀ꦥꦭꦺꦫꦺꦤꦤ꧀ꦭꦺꦱ꧀ꦠꦫꦶꦲꦶꦁꦲꦸꦫꦶꦥ꧀ꦱꦮꦶꦱꦺꦩꦠꦶ꧉
- ꦒꦿꦺꦗꦪꦺꦱꦸꦱ꧀ꦱꦗꦠꦶ꧈ꦢꦶꦪꦢꦺꦒꦏꦺꦢꦺꦤꦶꦁꦥꦔꦺꦫꦤꦺꦲꦮꦏꦺꦝꦺꦮꦺ;ꦒꦸꦱ꧀ꦠꦶꦪꦺꦱꦸꦱ꧀ꦏꦿꦶꦱ꧀ꦠꦸꦱ꧀꧈ꦭꦶꦮꦠ꧀ꦫꦺꦴꦃꦱꦸꦕꦶꦤꦭꦶ'uꦸꦢꦤ꧀ꦥꦸꦁꦏꦱꦤ꧀'꧈ꦪꦲꦶꦏꦸꦒꦿꦺꦗꦏꦫꦱꦸꦭꦤ꧀ꦱꦗꦠꦶꦱꦶꦁꦢꦶꦥꦸꦭꦶꦲꦏꦺꦩꦤꦺꦃ꧉
- ꦠꦺꦏꦤꦺꦥꦔꦺꦫꦤ꧀ꦱꦶꦁꦏꦥꦶꦁꦥꦶꦤ꧀ꦝꦺꦴꦲꦶꦏꦸꦧꦏꦭ꧀ꦲꦤꦲꦶꦁꦲꦏꦶꦫꦺꦗꦩꦤ꧀꧈ꦤꦭꦶꦏꦥꦚ꧀ꦗꦺꦤꦺꦔꦺꦩꦺꦝꦸꦤ꧀ꦱꦏꦱ꧀ꦮꦂꦒꦏꦁꦒꦺꦴꦔꦏꦶꦩꦶꦢꦺꦴꦚ:ꦮꦺꦴꦁꦮꦺꦴꦁꦧꦺꦤꦺꦂꦧꦏꦭ꧀ꦲꦺꦴꦭꦺꦃꦲꦸꦫꦶꦥ꧀ꦭꦺꦱ꧀ꦠꦫꦶ꧈ꦏꦩꦁꦏꦱꦶꦁꦲꦭꦧꦏꦭ꧀ꦢꦶꦪꦸꦏꦸꦩ꧀ꦱꦱꦸꦮꦺꦱꦸꦮꦺꦤꦺ꧉
Hello
[besut sumber]Hi Dave. I just read your message. I'm reading it now, and I'll tell you in a moment the result. :) Bennylin (ꦒꦸꦤꦼꦩ꧀ꦩꦤ꧀) 19 Juni 2016 16.52 (UTC)
- So you're the same with Jose77?
- So far, if you're using the transliterator and taking the text from Gréja Yesus Sajati, there should be no huge mistake or anything. But I'll check more thoroughly again. For this edit, I just removed the zero-width-joiners. Bennylin (ꦒꦸꦤꦼꦩ꧀ꦩꦤ꧀) 19 Juni 2016 17.21 (UTC)
- Because the source is from web (Wikipedia), and is written using new Latin spelling (the most obvious difference between old and new is the letter ě-e-è for old, and e-é-è for new -- they affects the choice of two kinds of 'e' in the script), the transliteration should be set to "Mode Kopas" (copy-paste mode, as opposed to "Mode Ketik" - typing mode). Also, "Tanpa spasi" mode would give more "pasangan" (considered proper Javanese script) that's suitable for Encyclopedic content, but for the trade off of word breaks (affecting, among others, line breaks, search index, and ease of reading).
- Some changes: "1900-an" (c. 1900) changed to "kira-kira taun 1900" because there's no equivalence of "-an" after a year number, and "1,5' to "karotengah" which means the same, withouth having to resort to numeral. That's for paragraph 1 for now. Bennylin (ꦒꦸꦤꦼꦩ꧀ꦩꦤ꧀) 19 Juni 2016 17.46 (UTC)
Regarding the script, yes, it has been the dream since the beginning of my involvement in this project, and it's close to happen, but we're still missing several things to make it happen:
- A good automatic transliterator - the one that I developed, although better than nothing, still not good enough (need more tests like going through results above). The more tests conducted, I can make the script better.
- Lacking support from browsers and mobile platforms resulting the scripts not properly rendered in many machines.
- The code for a multi-script Wikipedia site, I have looked at kk.wp, is not something simple. Need time to start actually coding it.
- Problems in word-breaks and line-breaks, because the script is a scriptura continua. I need to do research on other Wikipedias that also doesn't use spaces, like CJK languages, Thai, and Indic ones on how to best handle/display this kind of font sitewide.
- Things I pointed in meta:Wikipedias in multiple writing systems#Javanese Wikipedia
- Lastly, the lack of public enthusiasm :). Generally people are happy with the current state/script (Latin), and even that, very few can write with "proper" Javanese, due to years of "Indonesianization" in all aspects of life. It affects on how I put this in my priority list :p. Thanks for your interest in this! Bennylin (ꦒꦸꦤꦼꦩ꧀ꦩꦤ꧀) 19 Juni 2016 17.59 (UTC)