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The initial Wikipedia:Civility essay was largely authored by Anthere and others at m:Incivility (history, Jan-Feb. 2004). It was copied here and put into substantive form ("Civility") by Stevertigo (Feb. 2004), who earlier raised the issue on wikien-l.[1] & [2] (Oct. 4, 2003). In codified form, it was thereafter referenced as a statement of principle and soon after considered "policy." Long before the creation of the formal policy, Jimbo Wales wrote his statement of principles, wherein certain points echo the idea of civility. Larry Sanger raised the issue of "making [WP] more civil," [3], [4] & [5] (Nov. 2002) after reading The Cunctator's essay "How to destroy Wikipedia" (Mar. 2002). Jimbo Wales picked up on Sanger's point [6] [7], and thereafter Ed Poor and others kept it alive, until the need for a formal policy came about in late 2003. Also, note a poll on editors' thoughts on the policy at the time in 2009. |
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All the discussion of civility seems to be about remaining civil to other editors or contributors, but nothing, with the possible exception of Wikipedia:Civility#Edit_summary_dos_and_don'ts, which only mentions editors in 2 of its 6 bullet points.
inexplicablein this edit's summary cross a line by implying no one could possibly find a plausible explanation (as opposed to wording such as "I can't explain/don't understand it", which would acknowledge the editor's subjectiveness on this)?
The Crab Who Played With The Sea (talk) 11:19, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
any casual readerin this reply on the talk page, which I understand as leading directly to the change. But asking is better than speculating. Should we ask White_whirlwind whose confusion they called inexplicable?
And anybody who distrusts governments because of what the Nazis did must be extremely stupid. I think some readers that may read this and belong in the targeted set would feel offended. Regards, Thinker78 (talk) 18:35, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
There is a discussion at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#To create an Editor Communication Feedback noticeboard that may be of your interest. Regards, Thinker78 (talk) 20:33, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
I am sure this issue has been raised several times and I'd like someone to point me to the relevant guideline, discussion or ArbCom decision.
Short of harassment (WP:OWH), does WP:CIVIL apply also to off-wiki behaviour? Apparently it doesn't, if I'm not mistaken: Wikipedia's civility expectations apply to all editors during all interactions on Wikipedia
and so they apply in any other discussion with or about fellow Wikipedians
only when they take place on Wikipedia.
A couple of hypothetical examples to clarify the issue:
A) Twitting or posting on a social media something like "Those morons at Wikipedia deleted my article! I'm sure someone is paying them" (without naming editors) - violates WP:AGF - is this sanctionable?
B) "User:Whatever is most blatant rightwing/leftwing POV-pusher I have ever encountered" on a blog or social media (without doxxing) - can this off-wiki personal attacks be sanctioned as such, or can it only be considered an "aggravating factor" in the case of an on-Wiki dispute?
If anyone could link a discussion where this issue came up, I'd be grateful. Gitz (talk) (contribs) 09:14, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
Wikipedia's civility expectations apply to all editors during all interactions on Wikipedia, including discussions at user and article talk pages, in edit summaries, and in any other discussion with or about fellow Wikipedianscan be interpreted in two ways, if I'm not wrong: