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Keep N/GNG is well beyond met for this venue and list and it is de facto the 'you've made it' venue for multiple sports and entertainment industries in the United States. Nate•(chatter)20:00, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Doesn't meet WP:NACTOR. Appearing during a particular filming and as an alternate role doesn't always show notability, because sometimes, those type of actors aren't covered in multiple reliable sources. And that's the see here. Appearing also in music videos doesn't show either, hence this is a prompt lack of WP:SIGCOV. Safari ScribeEdits!Talk!00:10, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Doesn't meet WP:NDIRECTOR or WP:FILMMAKER. Awarded or recognised by the governor doesn't highly show any impact tones career and fails WP:ANYBIO. While we expect to see notable films he directed, there appears bit promotional and likely COI creation.
Delete. Appears to be resume and WP:PROMO based page. Fails notability. The entrepreneur and his achievements are not notable that is significant, interesting, or unusual enough to be worthy of notice. RangersRus (talk) 15:24, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep kindly understand that 'Mor Chhainha Bhuinya' was 1st film to be made in local chhattisgarhi language in over 30 yrs. so no one believed in this movie to have successful run, as such there was virtually any coverage. but after its release thanks to word of mouth publicity the film became a blockbuster leaving behind 'Mohabatein' and 'Mission Kashmir' in the state. Today this film has acquired a cult status as it gave birth to Chhollywood, an entirely new film industry in the state. Remember 'Andaz Apna Apna' despite huge star cast the film was declared massive flop but today it has gained a cult status. As such wiki page on 'Mor Chhainha Bhuinya' too deserves a page in wikipedia. Whatever sources that have been added are the only sources available online besides youtube (which is not accepted here). Most importanly this page is the most complete and well prepared page on this movie unlike previous attempts. As such 'Mor Chhainha Bhuinya' wikipedia page should be kept. If anyone can help improve it they are welcome. Bonadart (talk) 07:11, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
hi, Ednabrenze kindly understand that 'Mor Chhainha Bhuinya' was 1st film to be made in local chhattisgarhi language in over 30 yrs. so no one believed in this movie to have successful run, as such there was virtually any coverage. but after its release thanks to word of mouth publicity the film became a blockbuster leaving behind 'Mohabatein' and 'Mission Kashmir' in the state. Today this film has acquired a cult status as it gave birth to Chhollywood, an entirely new film industry in the state. Note that local media doesnt focus on Chhollywood, as such chhattisgarhi language films barely find mention. Remember 'Andaz Apna Apna', a wiki page on 'Mor Chhainha Bhuinya' too deserves a page in wikipedia. youtube has lot of info, but not accepted here. Most importantly this page is the most complete and well prepared page on this movie unlike previous attempts. If anyone can help improve it they are welcome. Bonadart (talk) 07:22, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the analysis but keeping an article here solely depends on the number of reliable sources that could be used to verify claims made in the article. I am not from that state and I would not know the historical background of the film but if there had been enough RS sources I would not have supported deletion. Ednabrenze (talk) 03:27, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
solely depends on the number of reliable sources, yes and no, it also depends on what they say and if one reliable source proves the film is important in the local culture that can be considered a sufficient reason to keep the page. At least, that is my understanding. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank)08:37, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Only one source by Rediff that has some coverage and all other sources are poor and unreliable with director's recognition and announcement on the news of the sequel. I would also opt for Redirect but I am not sure where to redirect this page to. Fails WP:NFILM and WP:SIGCOV. RangersRus (talk) 16:36, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@RangersRus kindly understand that 'Mor Chhainha Bhuinya' was 1st film to be made in local chhattisgarhi language in over 30 yrs. so no one believed in this movie to have successful run, as such there was virtually any coverage. but after its release thanks to word of mouth publicity the film became a blockbuster beating 'Mohabatein' and 'Mission Kashmir' released same day in the state. Today this film has acquired a cult status as it single handly gave birth to Chhollywood, an entirely new film industry in the state (very few films can be credited for that anywhere in india), just this is strong reason to keep the page i think. Remember 'Andaz Apna Apna' despite huge star cast the film was declared massive flop but today it has gained a cult status. As such page on 'Mor Chhainha Bhuinya' too deserves a page in wikipedia. Whatever sources that have been added are the only sources available online besides youtube (not accepted here). Most importanly this page is the most complete and well prepared page on this movie unlike previous attempts. As such 'Mor Chhainha Bhuinya' wikipedia page should be kept. Bonadart (talk) 11:38, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We need reliable secondary independent sources with significant coverage to consider the page's notability and so far I have found nothing significant. Its important that we follow the wikipedia guidelines for notability. RangersRus (talk) 00:09, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Note that local media doesnt focus on Chhollywood, as such chhattisgarhi language films barely find any mention except youtube, which is not accepted here. But it doesnt dampen people's interest in Chhattisgarhi film. Note Mor Chhainha Bhuinya 2 is the biggest and highest grossing film in last few years in Chhollywood and its theatrical run was longer than Kalki 2898. Also the 'Mor Chhainha Bhuinya 2' wikipage is well structured and complete page created using whatever sources available. Also note it is an important film in Chhollywood that has been a trend setter for sequals. If anyone can help improve it they are welcome. Bonadart (talk) 07:41, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. All sources are poor and unreliable on this page. The poor sources have just passing mention and interview on the film by the director. Others are unreliable sources like Instagram, imdb, sacnilk, personal blog like jayjohar.com. No significant coverage and no reception and reviews in independent secondary sources. Fails WP:NFILM and WP:SIGCOV. RangersRus (talk) 16:51, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@RangersRus please mote that local media doesnt focus on Chhollywood films, as such chhattisgarhi language films barely find any mention except youtube, (not accepted here). But it doesnt dampen people's interest in Chhattisgarhi film. Note Mor Chhainha Bhuinya 2 is the biggest and highest grossing film in Chhollywood in last few years/ Its theatrical run was longer than Kalki 2898 and did better business than Auron Mein Kahan Dum Tha. Also the 'Mor Chhainha Bhuinya 2' wikipage is well structured and complete page created using whatever sources available. Also note it is an important film in Chhollywood that has been a trend setter for sequels. these are reason enough to keep their page in wikipedia. Bonadart (talk) 11:46, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We can not go with word of mouth. We need reliable secondary independent sources with significant coverage to consider the page's notability and so far I have found nothing significant. Its important that we follow the wikipedia guidelines for notability. RangersRus (talk) 21:33, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note that local media doesnt focus on Chhollywood, as such chhattisgarhi language films barely find any mention but in youtube, there is lot of info but it is not accepted here. Bonadart (talk) 21:20, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Youtube channels that are the official channels of reliable sources such as newspapers or major magazines are acceptable. Do any of them meet that standard ? regards Atlantic306 (talk) 00:43, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
These sources are poor to unreliable. First 3 youtube are music channels and looks like link to music videos, after that the 2 are self published youtube channels. Then 6 is again music channel and 7 too but looks self published and all the remaining clearly look like uploaded content by a unverified official accounts. Even the last source by Vistaar News has not significant coverage. There is no "lot of information" in any of the sources setting aside the problem with their reliability. RangersRus (talk) 14:12, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
hi you may consider them not reliable but lthese are the top search results, btw if reliability is bar then you have lot of reliable info on Auron Mein Kahan Dum Tha but what has happened to the film, its super flop compare it to this movie - 1st sequel, longer run than kalki 2898, biggest hit in last 5 yrs, these are reason enough as per me to keep the page Bonadart (talk) 14:38, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I do not understand what you are saying. I do not know what Auron Mein Kahan Dum Tha and kalki 2898 films have to do with the YouTube videos you showed that you found in top search and yet no significant coverage in any of them. We do not want to see youtube videos with stars and interviewer mingling and having fun but need a reliable source from verifiable official account that has significant coverage. If these above were your top searches, it is clear there is not much to go with. RangersRus (talk) 14:45, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Sufficient sources mentioned for notability, A search found coverage of this films in many other languages News Sites. Monophile (talk) 8:31, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
Delete. Page reads as WP:PROMO. Out of 13 sources on the page, 7 are unreliable sources and the 6 others are very poor with passing mention. Fails notability. The subject's achievements are not notable that is significant, interesting, or unusual enough to be worthy of notice. Fails WP:GNG. RangersRus (talk) 16:58, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
RedirectDelete - Seems to only be known on YouTube which is not considered a reliable source. Those should be deleted. If better sourcing can be found, please bring it to the table. Netherzone (talk) 22:21, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A redirect with the history preserved under the redirect will allow editors to selectively merge any content that can be reliably sourced to the target article. A redirect with the history preserved under the redirect will allow the redirect to be undone if significant coverage in reliable sources is found in the future. Cunard (talk) 10:20, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete lacks significant coverage in reliable, independent sources to establish notability. The content does not provide enough verifiable information. --Loewstisch (talk) 09:46, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability; trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources is not usually sufficient to establish notability.
Sources
Hong, Minghua 洪铭铧 (2024-06-25). "娱乐吃瓜:最像郭靖的郭靖 此沙幸运背后的压力与艰辛" [Entertainment: The pressure and hardship behind the luck of Guo Jing, who is most like Guo Jing]. Lianhe Zaobao (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 2024-09-09. Retrieved 2024-09-09.
The article notes: "27岁的此沙是彝族,本名诺苏木古惹古吉乌此沙,出生于四川省凉山彝族自治州。金庸小说给他侠义感,能从故事中感受到人物的重情重义,..."
From Google Translate: "The 27-year-old Cisha is of the Yi ethnic group. His real name is Nuosumuguregujiwu Cisha. He was born in Liangshan Yi Autonomous Prefecture, Sichuan Province. Jin Yong's novels give him a sense of chivalry, and he can feel the characters' loyalty and righteousness from the stories. ..."
Fu, Yuanyuan 傅圆媛 (2024-07-05). "此沙:从杨戬到郭靖,因为起步晚才更努力追赶" [This Sand: From Yang Jian to Guo Jing, because they started late, they worked harder to catch up]. Southern Metropolis Daily (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 2024-09-09. Retrieved 2024-09-09 – via Sohu.
The article notes: "一轮轮的试戏,此沙至今记忆犹新,其中不乏与黄蓉、杨康的对手戏考验,以至于很多戏份到了正式拍摄时,此沙早已滚瓜烂熟,熟记于心。最终,历经层层筛选,此沙如愿以偿来到了横店,加入了《金庸武侠世界》这一梦寐以求的剧组。"
From Google Translate: "Cisha still remembers the rounds of auditions, including the rivalry with Huang Rong and Yang Kang, so that when the official shooting came, Cisha had already memorized many scenes by heart. Finally, after layers of screening, Cisha came to Hengdian as he wished and joined the long-awaited crew of "Jin Yong's Martial Arts World"."
The article notes: "在去年夏天因《封神》被大众熟识后,此沙过往追梦演艺圈的励志经历在网络上被高频提及,这当中有跑龙套的种种辛酸,也有抗拒诱惑对表演的坚持,“不给自己留退路”的此沙最终凭借自身的锲而不舍敲开了演员道路的大门,从大凉山到北京,再至更远的前方,一路上的经历,都被此沙视为“宝贵的财富”。"
From Google Translate: "After becoming well-known to the public for "Fengshen" last summer, Cisha's inspirational experience of pursuing his dream of the entertainment industry was frequently mentioned on the Internet. Among them, there were all kinds of bitterness of being a supporting actor, as well as the persistence of resisting temptation and acting. Cisha, who "did not leave a way out for himself", finally opened the door to the road of an actor with his own perseverance. From Daliangshan to Beijing, and then to the farther front, the experiences along the way were regarded by Cisha as "precious wealth"."
Huang, Yuhan 黄钰涵 (2020-05-08). "电影《封神三部曲》杨戬造型曝光 演员此沙减重20斤" [The styling of Yang Jian in the movie "The Conferred Gods Trilogy" is revealed. Actor Ci Sha lost 20 pounds] (in Chinese). China News Service. Archived from the original on 2024-09-09. Retrieved 2024-09-09.
The article notes: "据悉,饰演杨戬的此沙,在《封神三部曲》演员训练营初期是按照质子旅的角色进行了增肌增重等各种训练,并专注于使用弓箭、刀等质子旅的武器。每天的训练时长更是不少于12小时,为了呈现古代战士身材的肌肉线条,体现原始的男性美,此沙增重15斤左右。"
From Google Translate: "It is reported that Cisha, who plays Yang Jian, carried out various trainings such as muscle gain and weight gain according to the role of the Proton Brigade in the early stage of the actor training camp of "The Conferred Gods Trilogy", and focused on using the weapons of the Proton Brigade such as bows and arrows and knives. The training time every day is no less than 12 hours. In order to show the muscle lines of the ancient warrior's body and reflect the original male beauty, Cisha gained about 15 kilograms."
"饰演郭靖压力大,演员此沙自曝吃速效救心丸" [Playing Guo Jing is stressful, actor Ci Sha reveals he took quick-acting heart pills]. Red Star News [zh] (in Chinese). 2024-06-20. Archived from the original on 2024-09-09. Retrieved 2024-09-09.
The article notes: "1997年,演员此沙出生在四川的大凉山。在微博里,他发过几张自己的童年照,在西昌市的武校,在县城的民族小学,在镇上的照相馆,以及在他出生的村庄。家人对他的期望是做一个好的“长子”,继承家里的羊皮生意;武校教练希望他能留校当老师。"
From Google Translate: "In 1997, actor Ci Sha was born in Daliang Mountain, Sichuan. On Weibo, he posted several childhood photos of himself, at the martial arts school in Xichang City, at the ethnic primary school in the county, at the photo studio in the town, and in the village where he was born. The family's expectation for him is to be a good "eldest son" and inherit the family's sheepskin business; the martial arts school coach hopes that he can stay in school as a teacher."
Dong, Zhao 洞照 (2024-03-16). "原创 演员此沙:郭靖的精神和境界,我只学到十分之一" [Actor Ci Sha: I have only learned one tenth of Guo Jing's spirit and realm]. New Weekly [zh] (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 2024-09-09. Retrieved 2024-09-09 – via Sohu.
The article notes: "2022年夏秋之交,此沙结束一部作品的拍摄,从象山回到北京。机缘巧合下,他参与了单元剧《金庸武侠世界》的试戏。出品方耀客文化的创始人吕超看了此沙的试戏片段,又了解到他的成长背景以及骑马、摔跤的专长,便提出让他试演郭靖。"
From Google Translate: "At the turn of summer and autumn in 2022, Cisha finished filming a work and returned to Beijing from Xiangshan. By chance, he participated in the audition of the unit drama "Jin Yong's Martial Arts World". Lv Chao, the founder of the producer Yaoke Culture, watched Cisha's audition clips, and learned about his growth background and expertise in horse riding and wrestling, so he proposed that he audition Guo Jing."
The article notes: "出生于四川省凉山彝族自治州的95后青年演员此沙,在过去的这一年内从银幕到荧屏,圈粉无数。"
From Google Translate: "Ci Sha, a young actor born after 1995 in Liangshan Yi Autonomous Prefecture, Sichuan Province, has won countless fans from the silver screen to the TV screen in the past year."
The article notes: "在大山里出生、长大,去城里上学,然后再到北京打拼,闯荡演艺圈……此沙觉得自己这一路经历也和郭靖有几分相似,他亦从这个角色身上收获颇多,“和郭靖一起成长”,例如学习不求回报、不计较得失的处世态度。"
From Google Translate: "Born and raised in the mountains, went to school in the city, and then worked hard in Beijing to venture into the entertainment industry... Ci Sha felt that his experience along the way was somewhat similar to that of Guo Jing. He also gained a lot from this role, "growing up with Guo Jing", such as learning the attitude of dealing with the world without seeking rewards and not caring about gains and losses."
Delete I did remove all of the really iffy links, and there's not much left to say. It's full of lists with no sources, and I admit I fear a COI since this has all be done by a single editor who is also a SPA. I also have a memory of this coming by recently, yet the first AfD seems to have been in 2009. This article was created in March of this year. It was declined at AfC three times, then the editor moved it from draft to main space. Lamona (talk) 02:28, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I so much sense resubmitting after another. But if there is a bit notability, like appearing on non-notable films, and likely may later be notable in the future, I will support userfying. Safari ScribeEdits!Talk!15:33, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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She still needs much more experience as a recognized and outstanding actress, page without relevance required Alon9393 (talk) 03:22, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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I don't think the sources here meet WP:NBASIC or WP:NM, save for a writing credit on Why Not Us, which is rather weak on its own. Consult the table of relevant sources in the article. Nothing in my WP:before search was of higher quality.
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using ((source assess table)).
Strum has co-written two songs on popular 00s albums - Come and Get it by Rachel Stevens and Still Standing by Kylie Minogue in addition to the single, Why Not Us? by Monrose.
Under Notability (music), Strum therefore qualifies under the criteria:
'Has credit for writing or co-writing either lyrics or music for a notable composition.'
In addition, Strum is eligible for inclusion under the criteria as a performer:
'Has had a single or album on any country's national music chart.'
'Has released two or more albums on a major record label or on one of the more important indie labels (i.e., an independent label with a history of more than a few years, and with a roster of performers, many of whom are independently notable).' ('Addicted' was released by Warner Bros. major label release - https://open.spotify.com/artist/49DJil4JyZdW8Upoilkfom?si=uoQw-rvcTSOKuvGOyykJkw - her second album 'Cocoon' was also a major label recording, which was shelved and has now been released and distributed on an 'independent label with a roster of performers, many of whom are independently notable - https://open.spotify.com/album/7vNUTEQtnCVWel68cxx5sC?si=fMuK_Zl5Q1mgtyt1TSqOAQ and https://hmv.com/store/music/cd/cocoon)
In addition, she has released two albums as a recording artist, which are widely available on all streaming platforms, with 8.3k monthly streams on Spotify.
She is also eligible for inclusion under:
'Has performed music for a work of media that is notable, such as a theme for a network television show, performance in a television show or notable film, inclusion on a notable compilation album. (But if this is the only claim, it is probably more appropriate to have a mention in the main article and redirect to that article. Read the policy and notability guideline on subjects notable only for one event, for further clarifications).'
Go My Own Way was the theme tune to the 'network television show' Vital Signs (TV Show) in the UK, which aired on ITV, starring Tamzin Outhwaite.
She is also eligible for inclusion under:
'Has been placed in rotation nationally by a major radio or music television network.'
The music video for Bad Haircut featured Tom Ellis and was aired on The Box and MTV Hits, and has over 100,000 views on YoUTube.
She is also eligible for inclusion under:
'Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself.'
Keep as well as the above mentioned sources such as The Guardian and the Metro (not convinced it is completely unreliable as the discussion was not clear-cut at RSN) there is also a staff written bio at AllMusic here, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 23:06, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've just gone through the RSN discussion links for the Metro and Im not finding any substantial discussion directly about it so unless Im missing a discussion it seems to have been quite a leap to list it as unreliable without a proper discussion, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 23:17, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Relisting as there is no firm consensus. Also, participants, avoid "per X" comments which are practically valueless. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, LizRead!Talk!02:15, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You think "sigh" was rude and provocative? Compared to names I've been calles on this platform, it seems polite to me. It is just expressing exasperation, it's not about you. LizRead!Talk!01:06, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Still no consensus. A discussion of specific sources and whether or not they help establish notability would be welcome. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, LizRead!Talk!02:50, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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