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Iranian FIFA Futsal World Championship navboxes
Template:Iran Squad 2000 FIFA Futsal World Championship
Template:TopGolf Locations
- Template:TopGolf Locations (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Related to TopGolf article, this template seems to be a precursor to creating lots more TopGolf articles. Currently the links are geographical. While 1 page on TopGolf seems ok (given that it's a pretty specific topic), having a multitude of them smacks of advertising. Adding locations could readily be achieved by extending the current article. Nigej (talk) 13:44, 19 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Template:RFC boilerplate 1 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:RFC boilerplate 2 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:RfCsubst (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:RfC2subst (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Wikipedia:Requests for comment/User conduct is now shut down. These templates were substitution templates and are not transcluded anywhere (except for the wrapper templates also nominated that merely add "subst" to the others). There should be no harm in deleting these Oiyarbepsy (talk) 20:37, 11 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Template:Infobox university chancellor (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Infobox officeholder (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Propose merging Template:Infobox university chancellor with Template:Infobox officeholder.
The chancellor box was recently made a wrapper for the officeholder box, but apparently we have to have a merger debate before it can be Subst: and redirected. This should be done. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:58, 7 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Does the merger tag really need to be on Infobox officerholder, or perhaps more specifically, does it have to appear on every page that has it transcluded? It's affecting almost 85,000 articles. Number 57 22:48, 7 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- If it was not on the template, people would complain. It could be noincluded, but that is supposed to be for substituted templates only, according to Twinkle, so we may need to develop some consensus to do that. I would support noincluding in this case. —PC-XT+ 23:29, 7 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Not only should the notice not appear on every damn instance of the officeholder template, this discussion is a waste of time. Shouldn't we be writing an encyclopedia instead of eliminating templates? Chris Troutman (talk) 01:57, 8 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- I don't know anything about templates, but I arrived here via a page for a major corporate CEO whose bio template is of the "officeholder" variety. Unless this CEO is an aberration, this template might be in too wide of use for the proposed merge. It obviously doesn't make sense to have a "university chancellor" template in use on corporate CEO pages. - Bbny-wiki-editor (talk) 23:17, 7 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Ahh, okay. Thanks. - Bbny-wiki-editor (talk) 00:35, 8 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Subst and delete — I believe the main question from the last discussion was whether several params needed merging, or could they use the blank parameters, instead, if needed. Looking at the tracking categories, I think the blank parameters are ok. Three examples are Carol Folt for salary, Richard C. Atkinson for workplace, and Nancy L. Zimpher for both. —PC-XT+ 23:29, 7 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Get rid of that template notice Do what you need to do with the chancellor thing, but for the love of God, get rid of that damn template notice, noinclude it, do something. It is affect a whole mess of articles. Unfortunately, it is fully protected or I would have taken the damn thing off myself. Safiel (talk) 05:36, 8 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Seeing as I wasn't the only one concerned about the notice, I've removed it (using noinclude) from infobox officeholder. Number 57 09:58, 8 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Oppose merging the chancellor template, as the officeholder template is part of Category:Politics and government infobox templates. That doesn't seem right, but I don't know the policies on this. I was brought here by a notice at the top of Carol T. Christ, who isn't in politics or government, that I am aware of. Eddymason (talk) 06:51, 10 December 2014 (UTC) Note: If there is a question for me, please "ping" me, as my watchlist automatically adds pages I edit, and became unmanageable after weighing in here. Eddymason (talk) 07:04, 10 December 2014 (UTC) [reply]
- Template:Infobox criminal organization (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages) (423 transclusions)
- Template:Infobox organization (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages) (16,086 transclusions)
Propose merging Template:Infobox criminal organization with Template:Infobox organization.
Some people felt the recent TfD discussion about the criminal org template should have been a merger proposal; so here it is.
The relevant parameters are |named after=
, |founding_location=
, |ethnicity=
and |rivals=
, all of which have their place for non-criminal organisations (e.g. Oxfam, named after Oxford Famine relief, founded in Oxford, England). For |years_active=
we should use the more generic template's |formation=
& |extinction=
. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:53, 7 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Can we stop "The template Infobox organization is being considered for merging." from appearing at the top of each and every page --there are over 16,000 of them! -- that uses the target "infobox organization" infobox?
- I think it suffices for it to appear on the criminal org infobox pages (at most). Desire to generate conversation on these 400-odd pages proposed to be changed doesn't warrant marring the tops of 16,000 other pages. --Epeefleche (talk) 22:31, 7 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Yes, it is annoying, but as I said in the above discussion, we are attempting to follow appropriate procedure. (You can see why in the previous discussions.) This is one of the questions about TfD process that appears hard to answer. —PC-XT+ 23:39, 7 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- There must be a way to remove that notice. Ask the tech boffins. Cite IAR. Anything. This is absurd. Can we at least stick it under the infobox? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:05, 9 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- I agree. Bad TfD quality. -DePiep (talk) 23:30, 9 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Whether those 16000 should be notified is a point. But whether this deserves a merge-TfD: absolutely. Because: the proposal implies a change of the target template. That can not be enforced from a TfD outcome without consulting that template ('s followers). On top of this, the nom only grudgingly seems to admit that a parameter-issue overview should be included in the proposal (the earlier TfD in this failed). -DePiep (talk) 23:30, 9 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- don't merge for now, I would rather not see
|rivals=
and |ethnicity=
added to ((infobox organization)). I am imagining all the fabricated rivalries, and unsourced claims of ethnicity. however, |founding_location=
and |named_for=
seem to be of general use. Frietjes (talk) 19:52, 8 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Oppose - No rationale has been provided for a merge and things seem to work fine the way they are. Also, the notification on each organization infobox is disruptive. - MrX 04:34, 9 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Oppose
|ethnicity=
and |rivals=
don't cross well enough to merge. --Guerillero | My Talk 05:07, 9 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Oppose per arguments at the template's unsuccessful deletion discussion and because
|ethnicity=
, |rivals=
, and |allies=
do not cross well into Template:Infobox organization. - tucoxn\talk 20:48, 9 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- I have hidden the notice advertising this discussion on Template:Infobox organization in response to the many comments here. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 22:07, 9 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - Looks like the attributes on the criminal organization template are well-used. Many attributes on each template don't apply to the other type, so it seems easier for editors to keep them separate for now. -- Beland (talk) 23:59, 19 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Also, we have a separate Template:Infobox company which is probably more similar to the generic organization template, though the company template is much more heavily used than the criminal organization one. -- Beland (talk) 00:04, 20 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]