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Template:Usertag-Energy-Development-Sustainability

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The result of the debate was keep. WoohookittyWoohoo! 06:43, 10 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Usertag-Energy-Development-Sustainability (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

This template is not linked anywhere and I do not see the usefullness of it so it should be speedily deleted — Jorfer 23:30, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:OurStory

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The result of the debate was delete. WoohookittyWoohoo! 05:17, 11 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Template:OurStory (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Per discussion on Wikipedia talk:External links#Outside opinion wanted on external links, nominating for deletion as nonencyclopedic/unreliable self-promotional/spam link — DreamGuy 21:33, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Nights series

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The result of the debate was delete. —freak(talk) 02:44, May. 9, 2007 (UTC)

Template:Nights series (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Navigational template for two video games, one of which has not even been released. Not useful. — Pagrashtak 20:58, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:24 Series Regulars

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The result of the debate was delete. WoohookittyWoohoo! 05:52, 9 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Template:24 Series Regulars (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

This is totally redundant as there are already several existing templates for past and present characters. —T smitts 19:25, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Infobox South African Alternatives

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The result of the debate was delete. WoohookittyWoohoo! 05:42, 9 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox South African Alternatives (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

This infobox was created for use in articles that fall within the scope of WikiProject on South African Alternatives, an inactive project that has been nominated for deletion here. It is currently unused, seemingly incomplete, and redundant to Template:South Africa topics. — Black Falcon (Talk) 17:49, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Infobox Politician (Alternative)

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The result of the debate was delete. WoohookittyWoohoo! 05:40, 9 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox Politician (Alternative) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Unused and unneeded, Template:Infobox Politician does its job.— Philip Stevens 14:59, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • It is not a duplication and actually differs significantly from infobox politician.
  • It was used until the person nominating this for deletion removed it from the page it was being used on.
  • Corresponding directly with the creator of a template to determine why it was created and why it may be needed, before nominating it for deletion, seems like the right thing to do.

Harrykirk 16:51, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Db-invalid

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The result of the debate was userfied and deleted by creator. I'll still keep it in my page development archive in case I have some use for it. -- King of 01:12, 4 May 2007 (UTC) While well-intended, I think this is a bad idea. This template is used to indicate other templates are invalid, by redirecting those templates to this one. I think that instead, we should delete those invalid templates (and indeed we generally do). >Radiant< 09:03, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:AVFC-infobox

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The result of the debate was delete. —freak(talk) 02:42, May. 9, 2007 (UTC)

Template:AVFC-infobox (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

This template contains an instance of ((Infobox football club)) pertaining to Aston Villa, currently used in articles Aston Villa F.C. and Aston Villa F.C. statistics. However the infobox is only intended to be used in the main article about the club itself, and not every single page to do with it - not least because it includes a fair use image, inclusion of which should be minimal under Wikipedia rules, and inclusion of FU images in templates is forbidden by policy. This template should only be used in one page and thus it is a waste to have it, not to mention a bad precedent (it could lead to hundreds of similar templates created for other football clubs). Therefore delete and revert to using ((Infobox football club)) in the main Aston Villa F.C. article Qwghlm 08:49, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've cited and linked to the fair use policy already. The two most relevant parts are:
"8. The material must' contribute significantly to the article."
"9. Non-free images may be used only in the article namespace. They should never be used on templates"
No reason, let alone a good reason, has been put for how the crest would contribute significantly to the statistics article (and the burden of proof is on the editor who proposes adding it), nor the history article for that matter, and in any case it should not be included in the template under #9. And I see no reason why policy should be "fixed" just for this template.
Quite apart from the fair use reasons, the infobox should not be replicated freely over any page to do with a club; infoboxes should be kept to the articles that are directly about their subjects and not every topic to do with them. That's not policy, it's just mere common sense. I'd quite happily admit my argument that it is bad precedent is a slippery slope argument, but that does not make it inherently illogical or wrong. Perhaps you could discuss it on its merits instead? Qwghlm 11:24, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
"No reason, let alone a good reason, has been put for how the crest would contribute significantly to the statistics article" It provides a visual clue to the subject of the article, as it does on the club's main article.
"I see no reason why policy should be "fixed" just for this template" - I donlt say that iot should,.
"infoboxes should be kept to the articles that are directly about their subjects" all of the pages discussed are directly about Aston Villa.
"my argument that it is bad precedent is a slippery slope argument, but that does not make it inherently illogical or wrong. Perhaps you could discuss it on its merits instead?" It has none.
Andy Mabbett 11:44, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Hold on Give or take the image it seems a good idea to have an AV-specific template to put on all AV related articles (which has to be updated just the once rather than once per AV-page). If other FC pages follow suit, does it matter? (The fair use image should be used just once, in the crest section of the main article, which looks a bit odd with no crests in sight. Apparently a new crest is imminent anyway.) -- roundhouse 13:05, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Well I have no objection to a navbox at the bottom of the article, like ((Arsenal F.C.)) or ((Manchester United)). But my main objections are the misuse of a fair use image and the misuse of the ((football club infobox)) at the top of articles that are not about clubs in general. Qwghlm 13:09, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Given that neither use is a misuse, you should be content, then. Andy Mabbett 13:14, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Also, basically a copy of ((Football club infobox)), and therefore surplus to requirements. L.J.Skinnerwot|I did 14:25, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
"basically a copy of ((Football club infobox))" : No it is not. Andy Mabbett 15:12, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Well it looks just that way to me, a glance at the source code will show it it just a transclusion of said infobox. It is superfluous. L.J.Skinnerwot|I did 23:28, 2 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
"a glance at the source code will show it it just a transclusion of said infobox." Poppycock. Where, in the latter, is the AVFC logo? Andy Mabbett 21:52, 3 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Please pigsonthewing, have a look. It begins with ((Infobox Football club |. L.J.Skinnerwot|I did 16:23, 7 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
My name, as I have told you many times, is Andy Mabbett. I don't need to look, having created it, to know that it uses ((Infobox Football club)). That does not make it just a transclusion of that template. Would you like someone to explain the difference? Andy Mabbett 16:38, 7 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
" these pages do not even exist yet" which pages do not exist yet? Andy Mabbett 15:12, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
"to two current pages and a future, planned [p]age splitting of the history of the club" - a quote from you Pigsonthewing. L.J.Skinnerwot|I did 23:28, 2 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
"a quote from you". Indeed. Which pages - your plural - do not exist yet? My name, as you well know, is Andy Mabbett. Andy Mabbett 21:52, 3 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Universal Press Syndicate

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The result of the debate was keep. WoohookittyWoohoo! 05:15, 11 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Universal Press Syndicate (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

ridiculously bloated template, should use a category instead, see comments proposing deletion on template's talk page. The template also creates a subtle (probably not intentional) spamming effect by splatting an enormous, obtrusive box festooned with names of Universal Press Syndicate products across dozens of articles. 75.62.7.22 06:37, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:CopyrightedFreeUseProvidedThat

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The result of the debate was keep. Splitting it up is still an option, but for now there's nothing really wrong with the template which would call for deletion. —METS501 (talk) 20:22, 10 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Template:CopyrightedFreeUseProvidedThat (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

The permission must be cleary given, otherwise it's still non-free image (red mark of copyright). The day before yesterday the ((Kremlin.ru)) (which has got permission for free using, but hasn't got permission for derivative works) was deleted exactly in this maner without discussion. Also, for example, CC-BY-ND permits free use without derivative works, but we delete speedy images with it as CSD I3. — Alex Spade 09:37, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. If this template is authorized, I ask for undeletion of ((Kremlin.ru)) for reload of its images from commons to en-wiki. Alex Spade 10:05, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
If you are dissatisfied with the deletion of your template, there are other avenues of redress that can be explored. Bringing it up here makes this nomination look like a WP:POINT issue. --Kralizec! (talk) 21:44, 2 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Not only. Alex Spade 15:51, 3 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Conclusion: This template simply encourages people to add terms that we consider to be unfree which would in turn cause the pictures to be deleted. If somebody doesn't want to use CC-BY for some reason, they can use ((attribution)) so there's no need to keep this license. Alternatively, I'd be willing to compromise with slowly deprecating this tag (ie. subst'ing all uses of it, adding a category so we can track the images and deleting the template). Yonatan talk 03:00, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

To that end, I've added a note to the template to use Attribution when appropriate. I also speedied an orphan using this tag improperly and listed a few at IFD. I'm sure there are many more, if someone wants to go through them. Pagrashtak 14:37, 8 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:CopyrightedFreeUse-User

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The result of the debate was keep. WoohookittyWoohoo! 05:13, 11 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Template:CopyrightedFreeUse-User (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
What are exactly possibilities of this license tags?
  1. Is it nevertheless variant of ((CopyrightedFreeUseProvidedThat)) (initial version, free use only, see above) or ((Attribution)) (last version, free use and modification)?
  2. Why the text of license had been change from FreeUse-variant to Attribution-variant? Many images were loaded before text change, under another conditions, did all authors receive the information about changing of conditions, did all of them they cleary agree with chaging?

I offer two decisions

  1. If change is correct and appropriate, we can just redirect it to Template:Attribution, which can used as ((Attribution|User:Login))
  2. If change is incorrect, we must revise template text for early edition, and perhaps delete template as subvariant of Template:CopyrightedFreeUseProvidedThat, which is discussed above.

Alex Spade 09:52, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • People falsely declare stuff as gfdl-self all the time. We aren't going to delete that template because of that. Neither would we delete this one because of that. Nardman1 20:56, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • of course we aren't going to delete gfdl-self because of that. gfdl-self makes clear which license it is supposed to be, and should gfdl for some reason not be free (which is not the case), then we could go ahead and delete all pictures with it. However, with this template being permitted, we have no way to easily identify the pictures with a certain license. We don't have any space problems, so we should create a single tag for each reason, and not re-use generic tags for various, completely different reasons. --rtc 21:25, 2 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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