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Suspected sockpuppeteer

Jeffrywith1e (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)

Suspected sockpuppets

CMartin007 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
Hodagacz (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)

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Percy Snoodle (talk) 17:05, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Evidence

On the "tssi" yahoo mailing list, a user signed in as "Jeffry with one e" posted a call for help[1] with an ongoing AFD. The two users above appeared shortly after, as well as Dpmcalister who has posted to that yahoo! thread. I would expect the above users to have at least posted in the yahoo thread if they were real people. It is possible that they are sock puppets of User:Dpmcalister, or even that they are real people who lurk on that forum. However, even if they are, they are here at the request of User:Jeffrywith1e. The two listed user accounts should be investigated to see if they are sock puppets of either User:Jeffrywith1e or User:Dpmcalister. I had planned to list this at requests for checkuser after the AFD closed, but now I have evidence that they are at least meat puppets I thought this was the appropriate avenue. Percy Snoodle (talk) 17:05, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

I take great offence at being accused of recruiting either sock puppets or meat puppets. I feel that this accusation has been filed purely because the accuser doesn't like the conversation in the AFD. Regardless, this entire situation has sullied my opinion of Wikipedia. It appears that might makes right here and the person with the most contributions over the years is, obviously, allowed to besmirch the character and integrity of any other user they wish. dpmcalister (talk) 18:14, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

With respect, what brought you to the AfD, Dpm? It sounds like you were influenced to weigh in after the Yahoo groups message call for help, which is would seem to be the very definition of both WP:CANVASS and WP:MEAT. Can you provide evidence to counter Percy's? - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 20:25, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I was already aware of it (albeit I hadn't acted upon it). Of course, there is only my word for this and, since my character and integrity have already been besmirched there is, no doubt, little I can do to prove otherwise. dpmcalister (talk) 21:28, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, the SSP should square things away in short order. It looks to me that, while you may have known about it, you weren't actively canvassing or meating, whereas Jeffry is pretty much canvassing (and should kindly knock that crap off, IMHO) for support. Maybe you might want to stay away from the guy for a while, as guilt could be confused with association. A good editor acquaintance of mine was recently suspected of being a sock-puppet because one had talked to him. He pulled through, and so will you. Chin up, little buckaroo! :) - —Preceding unsigned comment added by Arcayne (talk • contribs) 22:05, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Arcayne, I have looked at WP:CANVASS and see that I was, in fact, canvassing. I apologize for requesting support to the articles from the yahoo group and do not intend to do that anymore. I sincerely didn't realize the policy when I committed the crime. Jeffrywith1e (talk) 06:05, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm confident that however you investigate, you will find that Jeffrywith1e is my only user account. I apologize to the users who gave support to the articles and have been effected by my asking for help on the yahoo group. It is my opinion that since the consensus was not going in the accuser's favor, they revert to character attacks. It saddens me to see Wikipedia effected by people who seem to be hell bent on adding to their contribution list. It wasn't my intention to create a conflict, it was simply to add information about a fictional universe that I enjoy on to the world wide web, because I haven't seen it anywhere else. Seemed like Wikipedia used to be the place to do just that. Jeffrywith1e (talk) 01:43, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I shall ignore the goading, but regarding your latter point, we at WP:RPG have recently been pointed to The Annex, which is a wiki for information about fictional universes in exactly the way that wikipedia isn't. Percy Snoodle (talk) 10:13, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

I am a webmaster for Top Secret the Role Playing game. My site is http://www.cm4.com/topsecret/ I have been to the Top Secret sites before, but have not contributed to them. CMartin007 (talk) 11:51, 8 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Conclusions

Clearly meat puppetry here. However the AFD has ended so the purpose of blocking being preventative is rather moot here. The question is will these users violate WP:SOCK again? We don't know. Therefore I'm issuing warnings to all three and entering notional 1 second blocks in there block logs. — Rlevse • Talk • 00:25, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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