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Suspected sock puppeteer

Crashingthewaves (talk⁺ · contribs · deleted contribs · tag · block user · block log · CheckUser)

Suspected sock puppets

• Thunderstruck45 (talk⁺ · contribs · deleted contribs · tag · block user · block log · CheckUser)
• Overmoon (talk⁺ · contribs · deleted contribs · tag · block user · block log · CheckUser)

Report submission by

• Nrswanson (talk) 00:21, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Evidence

These three accounts have been behaving in a highly disruptive manner at 2008 stabbings at Beijing Drum Tower, its previous AFD nomination (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2008 Olympics attack on American nationals (2nd nomination)), and the article's talk page. The accounts also try to convince other editors to either back down or support the editor and his views on their talk pages. Sometimes the language used is hostile and uncivil. See these user talk pages including: User talk:The Rambling Man, User talk:Cobaltbluetony, User talk:Elliskev, User talk:Ohconfucius, User talk:Twas Now, User talk:Davumaya, User talk:Mboverload, User talk:Michael Hardy, User talk:Fabrictramp, to name just a few. Also see comments made at Wikipedia talk:Mediation Cabal#Request. Much of this diruption has to do with the renaming of this page. For a concise account of moves made by all three accounts as well as other editors see Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2008-08-27 2008 attack during the Olympics. Also, for the clearest example of confirmed sockpuppetry see my own talk page nrswanson (talk · contribs). I was contacted by Overmoon (talk · contribs) after which he switched mid way in the conversation to Thunderstruck45 (talk · contribs). He also sent me a private e-mail in which he admited to being Crashingthewaves (talk · contribs). Since at that time he wasn't using the different accounts in what I percieved to be a harmful way I did not feel the need to file a sockpuppetry case at that time. See my response to him at the overmoon talk page in which I cautioned him about being civil and about using only one account. Sense then however, he has used multiple accounts on the article in question in a disruptive manner, forcing me to report him. I really didn't want to have to do that sense he initially came to me for advice and help. Advice that he didn't heed.Nrswanson (talk) 00:21, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I too was contacted for advice by the users, through AIM. I like to AGF as much as possible, and so left the issue alone for a while. I have the AIM conversation saved in which he himself admits to using multiple accounts:

• fireworks1777 (8:54:18 PM): I am crashingthewaves

and later:

• greenyjordan [at] msn.com (9:17:26 PM): so are you User:Thundersturck45 too?
• fireworks1777 (9:17:40 PM): and others
• greenyjordan [at] msn.com (9:18:00 PM): be careful with that... that actually is against policy...

If that isn't sufficient, I can send the actual file by e-mail. -JWGreen (talk) 00:48, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Also, reading further I found the following:

• fireworks1777 (10:50:33 PM): well, overmoon, not sure how old that one is

-JWGreen (talk) 00:51, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

• Please remember to notify all accounts listed as possibly linked to the sock puppetry in question (instructions).

Conclusions

Pretty obviously the same user, dodging their block at this point, and, being all-around pretty uncivil, making threats, etc. I've blocked the remaining accounts indef. SQL^{Query me!} 01:42, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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