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28 June 2017

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Targetting many of the same sites with repeat of sockmaster's edits, e,g, Nashville tuning (high strung), making same needless MOS changes from allowable style (largely enforcing Oxford comma)which led to indef block, accompanied by needless tinkering and rewordings to provide cover, per previous pattern. Mutt Lunker (talk) 13:18, 28 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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30 June 2017

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Making same needless MOS changes from allowable style (largely enforcing Oxford comma) which led to indef block, accompanied by needless tinkering and rewordings to provide cover, per previous pattern. Also blanking parts of discussion on puppeteer's talk page. Mutt Lunker (talk) 10:45, 30 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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02 July 2017

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Making same needless MOS changes from allowable style (largely enforcing Oxford comma) which led to indef block, accompanied by needless tinkering and rewordings to provide cover, per previous pattern. Also blanking parts of discussion on puppeteer's talk page. Mutt Lunker (talk) 11:16, 2 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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04 July 2017

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Making same needless MOS changes from allowable style (largely enforcing Oxford comma) which led to indef block, accompanied by needless tinkering and rewordings to provide cover, per previous pattern. Mutt Lunker (talk) 23:03, 4 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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11 July 2017

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Same comma additions on same articles. Reverts with edit summary "I like the serial comma better."

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28 July 2017

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Adding of serial comma to many articles, editing warring over it on Baywatch. If this is a sockpuppet, they have been doing this for months. ‖ Ebyabe talk - Opposites Attract ‖ 05:51, 28 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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30 July 2017

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Adding serial comma over numerous articles. ‖ Ebyabe talk - Attract and Repel ‖ 17:49, 30 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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03 September 2017

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ATS (talk) 00:24, 3 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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13 September 2017

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More similar needless MOS changes, which mostly includes the serial comma, as well as other changes per the master's previous editing pattern. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 00:05, 13 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Adding serial commas to articles previously targeted by Hoggardhigh socks. ‖ Ebyabe talk - Attract and Repel ‖ 06:06, 24 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Also, for a new user they sure seemed to find this page and the incidents messageboard pretty fast. --‖ Ebyabe talk - State of the Union ‖ 07:10, 24 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The IP claims to be an English professor, and yet cannot spell HoggardHigh (see below). This is problematic, at best. --‖ Ebyabe talk - Inspector General ‖ 07:55, 24 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Clearly there is a misunderstanding about the definition of a serial comma. I did not add a serial comma. I added the comma required after a parenthetical. And the word hoogerhigh doesn't even mean anything. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:e000:35c6:c200:c522:44a:e109:f43f (talk • contribs)

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Sro23 -  Done. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 04:25, 3 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

25 October 2017

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Same obsession with adding serial commas across a range of similar articles including those on musicians and aircraft. BilCat (talk) 05:13, 25 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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10 November 2017

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Same fixation over serial commas and the same refusal to use edit summaries BilCat (talk) 21:14, 10 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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13 November 2017

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A recent edit to Roblox included the addition of a serial comma, one of the traits of the sockmaster. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk • contribs) 23:49, 13 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi, I'm DatGoodDude342. I sincerely apologize for the addition of a serial comma. I was pretty sure that this was the correct thing to do, grammar-wise. I honestly didn't realize that I was doing anything wrong, and will refrain from doing this in the future. I am a fairly new addition to the Wikipedia community, and I'm still trying to learn about, well, everything. Please forgive me for my small mistake. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DatGoodDude342 (talk • contribs) 04:04, 14 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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13 December 2017

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Same obsession with adding serial commas across a range of similar articles including those on musicians and aircraft. Same pattern of reverting reverts of these edits, all without comment. BilCat (talk) 16:54, 13 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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24 December 2017

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same comma addition obsession with same articles ‖ Ebyabe talk - Union of Opposites ‖ 19:19, 24 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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27 December 2017

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Pushing the same old grammatical trivia, even at Wikipedia:The duck test! Andy Dingley (talk) 23:41, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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11 February 2018

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Same obsession with adding serial commas across a range of similar articles including those on musicians and aircraft. Same pattern of reverting reverts of these edits, all without comment. BilCat (talk) 01:34, 11 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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18 February 2018

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Same comma adding and edit pattern. For example, Jerry Pournelle and Pournelle chart. Also now appears to be tag teaming (one IP edits, a different IP edits right after which would make the initial edit less likely to be seen by the casual observer) ‖ Ebyabe talk - Union of Opposites ‖ 07:09, 18 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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03 March 2018

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Same obsession with adding serial commas across a range of similar articles including those on musicians and aircraft. Same pattern of reverting reverts of these edits, all without comment. A check for sleepers might be warranted. BilCat (talk) 18:21, 3 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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A large number of accounts have been set up in the past few weeks with very similar editing patterns, editing multiple random articles with trivial changes, adding commas where they are inappropriate, and pointless wikilinks. A few of the accounts have progressed to slightly more constructive edits, while others have progressed to spamming. List added under the Suspected sockpuppets heading. . .Mean as custard (talk) 19:01, 3 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Mean as custard: Wow, that's quite a list you added! I looked at a couple of the new additions at random, and they didn't appear connected to Hoggard. But he is persistent, so who knows. The things vandals do to amuse themselves is perplexing at times. - BilCat (talk) 04:03, 4 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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11 March 2018

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Comma addition with similar edit summaries and some of the same articles as Hoggardhigh. ‖ Ebyabe talk - Attract and Repel ‖ 07:35, 11 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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@Ebyabe: Please provide comparison diffs for each suspected sock and the master or blocked sock. The diffs should address both your comments about "similar edit summaries" and "same articles". Both of the suspected socks are years older than the master. At a glance, I see very similar edit summaries between the two suspected socks but not between them and the master/blocked socks.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:36, 11 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No response from filer. Insufficient evidence presented. Closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:12, 13 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

11 April 2018

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Same steadfast adherence to putting commas everywhere, despite the composition of the sentence. Robotically follows strictest interpretation of MOS and copies and pastes it, however not all sentences make sense if you put a comma behind every date for example. Also puts Oxford commas everywhere. General nuisance editing behavior and has ducked block dozens of times. I know this vandal largely through Ebyabe's diligent work. JesseRafe (talk) 13:06, 11 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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01 May 2018

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Typical persistence of repeated of insertion of Oxford comma, stretching back years now at Nashville tuning (high strung). Mutt Lunker (talk) 16:15, 1 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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10 November 2018

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Same obsession with adding serial commas across a range of similar articles including those on musicians and aircraft. Same pattern of reverting reverts of these edits, all without comment. Has been tag-teaming with IPs from Wilmington NC on similar edits, which is where many of Hoggard's IPs have been from, such as such as this one. BilCat (talk) 03:40, 10 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Self-destructed and blocked. I don't know if Im allowed to self-revert once an SPI is filed, so I'm adding this instead. Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 04:33, 10 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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21 March 2020

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Typical persistence of needless insertion of Oxford comma, stretching back years, largely at music and aircraft-related articles, including favoured target of several years, Nashville tuning (high strung). Other needless MOS changes. Mutt Lunker (talk) 16:04, 21 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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14 April 2020

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Per this recent unaddressed report (Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Hoggardhigh/Archive#21_March_2020), typical persistence of needless insertion of Oxford comma, stretching back years, largely at music and aircraft-related articles, including favoured target of several years, Nashville tuning (high strung). Other needless MOS changes. Mutt Lunker (talk) 12:14, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]


Sure, and apologies for not listing some in the submission.
Regarding the puppetmaster, User talk:Hoggardhigh is replete with discussion about their forcing of the issue regarding the serial comma, with some individual edits listed but to give a few examples, see: [9], [10] and [11] (amongst numerous examples in that article's history, under that user name, other names and IPs, identified in rv edit summaries as being Hoggardhigh).
The new sock made such an edit at the latter article: [12]. Other examples include [13], [14] (same article also targeted by a previous IP sock), [15], [16] and [17].
I hope these are of use. Mutt Lunker (talk) 15:02, 18 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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@Mutt Lunker: In order to facilitate and expedite your request, please provide diffs to support your case. Please give two or more diffs meeting the following format:

  1. At least one diff is from the sockmaster (or an account already blocked as a confirmed sockpuppet of the sockmaster), showing the behaviour characteristic of the sockmaster.
  2. At least one diff per suspected sockpuppet, showing the suspected sockpuppet emulating the behaviour of the sockmaster given in the first diff.
  3. In situations where it is not immediately obvious from the diffs what the characteristic behaviour is, a short explanation must be provided. Around one sentence is enough for this.

Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 12:47, 18 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

08 August 2020

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Typical persistence of needless insertion of Oxford comma, stretching back years, largely at music and aircraft-related articles, including favoured target of several years, Nashville tuning (high strung). Other needless MOS changes.

Regarding the puppetmaster, User talk:Hoggardhigh is replete with discussion about their forcing of the issue regarding the serial comma, with some individual edits listed but to give a few examples, see: [18], [19] and [20] (amongst numerous examples in that article's history, under that user name, other names and IPs, identified in rv edit summaries as being Hoggardhigh).

The IP sock made a series of Oxford comma insertions such edits at: [21]. [22], [23], [24] and [25], to name the most recent. They appear to have adopted a new strategy for the Nashville tuning article, i.e. the removal of the word "and" which they previously persisted in preceding with a serial comma: [26], [27]

Also editing as User:JoinOnIn. Mutt Lunker (talk) 23:55, 8 August 2020 (UTC) Mutt Lunker (talk) 23:58, 8 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Most recently at User:179.53.0.213. Mutt Lunker (talk) 09:21, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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14 March 2021

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Everyone's already blocked, but requesting CU to see if there are any more missed accounts (given January2020 was created back in 2019 and had gone so long without being detected). Sro23 (talk) 18:04, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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28 February 2023

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Similar editing pattern, many to articles previously targetted (I count at least 717), inc. predilection for style choice-only MOS:OXFORDCOMMA. Geolocation. Mutt Lunker (talk) 00:19, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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23 March 2023

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On a quick reckoning, over half of articles edited recently targetted by previous sock. Characteristic edits inc. fondness for Oxford comma. Geolocation. Mutt Lunker (talk) 22:20, 23 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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11 May 2023

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Same insistence on adding serial commas on same articles Escape Orbit (Talk) 15:26, 11 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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11 May 2023

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Repeating 17th April serial comma edit by IP sock blocked earlier today, per above. Mutt Lunker (talk) 22:06, 11 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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