MyWikiBiz (third request)

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Filed: 03:59, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Per discussion at WP:ANI#Wikignosis_block_for_legal_threat I am submitting this here since consensus has not established that WP:DUCK applies. The account's main activity has been to abuse WP:BLP while writing "per Jimbo Wales" in edit notes. I indef blocked on 20 April as a probable JB196 sockpuppet/meatpuppet due to policy abuse at wrestling topics. Received a polite request for unblock afterward and decided to give the benefit of the doubt. Disruption promptly resumed and the account got indef blocked for borderline legal threats regarding Daniel Brandt. That block got upheld upon appeal, but another sysop reversed it during the noticeboard discussion and now he's blocked for a week for incivility. Upon further consideration I've decided to run this as a MyWikiBiz request. DurovaCharge! 23:31, 27 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Minor correction: "That block got upheld upon appeal, but another sysop reversed it"... Actually the blocking admin lifted his own block. -- Ben TALK/HIST 00:36, 28 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
 Likely. Very similar to earlier patterns. --jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 15:59, 29 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Request: would you please clarify your level of confidence, and its basis? "Likely" rather than "Confirmed", and based on "similar... patterns" rather than a matching IP (an actual "checkuser"), seems a less certain result than I'd expected. Do the IPs match, or not? If not, then what actually makes this "likely", and with what degree of probability (closer to 51% or 99.99%)? -- Ben TALK/HIST 17:22, 29 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Same IP range. Dynamic IPs, so no exact match. You'll have to use your judgement based upon the editing history. --jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 17:32, 29 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
After going through them, I don't see the similarity, past having disputes about editing policies -- which is not uncommon. Editing topics and actions: MyWikiBiz was openly out to make a profit by adding corporate-related content, WikiGnosis has deleted what seemed to be WP:BLP violations in articles on individuals, arguing against defamation on ethical and policy grounds. Editing styles: MyWikiBiz often spoke of himself in the first person plural, not so WikiGnosis (that I saw). Self descriptions: MyWikiBiz's press release says he is in Pennsylvania and his posted photo shows a man in his 30s or possibly early 40s*, WikiGnosis speaks of an upbringing in the 1950s Midwest. Granted these might conceivably be feigned differences to disguise identity, at least they are differences and not similarities. So what in the editing histories is similar? Durova's previous suggestion was that WikiGnosis was a sock of JB196. (Apparently the idea is that he must be a sock of somebody, because he was somewhat familiar with Wikipedia policies by the time he started posting. But maybe he just took RTFM to heart.) He was blocked for that, and then unblocked as apparently not a JB196 sock after all. Now he's blocked as a MyWikiBiz sock instead, based on this "Likely". From here it looks an awful lot like fishing through possible sockmasters until one isn't eliminated, but RFCU doesn't do that, so I must be seeing it wrong. Please tell me there was an actual non-trivial similarity and what it was, so that I can rest my uneasy mind from this puzzlement. Thanks! -- Ben TALK/HIST 04:53, 30 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
(*Kohs's Centiare directory page gives a birthdate in October 1968.)
MyWikiBiz contrib history on Centiare: http://www.centiare.com/Special:Contributions/MyWikiBiz
MyWikiBiz contrib history on Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/MyWikiBiz
Zibiki_Wym contrib history on Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Zibiki_Wym
WikiGnosis contrib history on Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/WikiGnosis
-- Ben TALK/HIST 05:27, 30 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
While 38-year old MyWikiBiz lives in Pennsylvania, WikiGnosis uploaded his own photo of the golf course at The Villages, "a 55+ retirement community in central Florida", which fits his "1950's Midwestern upbringing". Does checkuser in any way contradict the stated locations? -- Ben TALK/HIST 07:50, 30 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Two more checkuser questions while I'm waiting: (1) Did WikiGnosis's IP# change every session, or only when MyWikiBiz/Zibiki_Wym's edits intervened? (2) Did WikiGnosis's IP# ever not change when MyWikiBiz/Zibiki_Wym's edits intervened? -- Ben TALK/HIST 20:06, 30 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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MyWikiBiz (second request)

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Filed: 03:59, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

MyWikiBiz has requested that the community restore editing privileges to one of his acknowledged accounts User:Thekohser. The thread is at WP:CN#Unblock_of_Thekohser.3F. Suspected of attempting to manipulate his own ban discussion on the IP address.[1][2][3][4] Although this meets the threshold for blocking as obvious sockpuppetry, this particular user has persuaded mainstream journalists that Wikipedia treated him unfairly. See this for a heavily spun story that ran in the Associated Press on 24 January 2007. In case the user attempts to follow up with a similar story it would be good to have a checkuser result to formally confirm that the community handled his case appropriately. He is a professional public relations entrepreneur so I think it would be good for Wikipedia to cover all our bases. DurovaCharge! 03:59, 2 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

BTW the checkusers may review my relevant correspondence with Brian Bergstein, who was the journalist who wrote January's AP story. Contact me privately if necessary. DurovaCharge! 04:10, 2 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
 Clerk note: in the event that Durova isn't available when a checkuser wishes to decide on this check, I have also got a copy of the email correspondance Durova mentions. If needed, my copy will be forwarded. Cheers, Daniel Bryant 05:23, 2 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Additional edits by the IP to the block discussion.[5][6] Note that in the latter the IP refers to the sockmaster account in the first person. DurovaCharge! 05:44, 2 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
 Clerk note: Best to refer this to Brad Patrick or the Foundation Office. It's over any of our heads. Thatcher131 01:11, 4 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Nods. DurovaCharge! 05:57, 4 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Brad Patrick got back to me. He didn't specifically comment on RFCU issues, but didn't offer any reason against running the check. I'll forward his e-mail upon request to any checkuser or clerk. DurovaCharge! 01:24, 6 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

 Inconclusive I can't comment on the IPs because of the privacy policy. There is no recent data regarding MyWikiBiz, and that leaves nothing left to check. The Uninvited Co., Inc. 19:38, 6 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]


MyWikiBiz

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Filed: 09:41, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

MyWikiBiz is also User:Thekohser; recent comments indicate that he is also using JossBuckle Swami. MyWikiBiz was banned by Jimbo for "selling" Wikipedia articles. http://www.mywikibiz.com/ordernow.html shows he is still doing this. If this user is using a static IP I strongly suggest it should be hard blocked. Guy (Help!) 09:41, 23 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

 Clerk note: MyWikiBiz is too old to check. Cheers, ✎ Peter M Dodge ( Talk to Me • Neutrality Project ) 07:01, 24 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
But I know that he might use dynamic IPs in the 72.94.0.0/16 range. Scobell302 00:39, 25 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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