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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on November 5, 2016.

Act dischairging the Yule vacance

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 November 16#Act dischairging the Yule vacance

Space before comma

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
Closing rationale[edit]
The result of the discussion was delete some, unbundle others.
There is rough consensus to delete redirects that have:
  1. No significant hits prior to RfD nomination (i.e. group 2); and
  2. Been stripped of all internal links from article space (which should've been done by XXN); and
  3. No significant page history to preserve
The list of group 2 redirects is quite long so I urge participants of this discussion to help check them and delete them (non-admins can use ((db-xfd))).
Although there is a majority opinion that everything in this nomination should eventually be deleted, a significant proportion of editors argued to procedurally unbundle or to keep certain subsets. So the remainder of redirects are closed as no consensus, default to keep without prejudice against speedy unbundled renomination. Deryck C. 12:20, 14 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Lists of redirects[edit]
Group 1 - significant activity in the last 30 days
Group 2 - no activity in last 30 days
  • Major-General H.H. Farzand-i-Dilband Rasikh- al-Iqtidad-i-Daulat-i-Inglishia, Raja-i-Rajagan, Maharaja Sir Jagatjit Singh, Bahadur, Maharaja of Kapurthala, GCSI , GCIE , GBE → User talk:Ivanvector  (links · history · )     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Redirects with incorrect titles, each of them having space(s) before comma (some of them containing, in addition, other mistakes). No need to keep them, just pollutes the main namespace. --XXN, 21:18, 5 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

All links to these redirects in articles were replaced with their targets. --XXN, 21:38, 5 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
All these redirects were tagged with ((rfd)). XXN, 21:44, 5 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Discussion: space before commas (edit break)[edit]
Prior to start this RFD, I fixed all instances of these redirects in Article namespace. --XXN, 16:10, 8 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

First step is move the redirects that don't have corresponding " , [space]" entries to the correct format. Whether to remove this place name qualified redirects is a matter that would need considerable discussion (and which I would very strongly oppose). Deleting the ones where there is also a correct form is much more obvious, provided every incoming link is checked. DGG ( talk ) 04:04, 6 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I support deletion of all of these redirects as well (but still think this discussion is a WP:TRAINWRECK situation based on my previous comment, and would prefer it be closed as a WP:TRAINWRECK as opposed to deleting all of these redirects as a result of this discussion.) Steel1943 (talk) 16:12, 6 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Some unneeded redirects

There is no need to redirect from:
[...]

  • implausible typos
  • titles with punctuation or obscure errors that have no specific affinity to them
    • errors in the act of disambiguating such as disambiguated titles with extra spaces and/or missing brackets
--XXN, 16:10, 8 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Yes that's true, most of these strongly appear to be redirects left behind from page moves from erroneous titles moments after the articles were created, and ought to have qualified for R3 speedy deletion. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 20:39, 9 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
R3 does not apply to redirects created as a result of a page move. -- Tavix (talk) 20:51, 9 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
an example of that is David D. Kirkpatrick ,reporter. This is necessary to maintain attribution, and therefore by our copyright policy must remain, regardless of the original title being made improperly. DGG ( talk ) 00:47, 10 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
That's not accurate at all. When a page is moved, the history of that page gets moved along with it. After the move, the only history is the fact that it was moved, so there's nothing that must be retained per copyright policy. -- Tavix (talk) 01:05, 10 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I am the one who moved David D. Kirkpatrick ,reporter to David D. Kirkpatrick (reporter), and that's where the attribution history is for that page. I agree with DGG that all incoming links should be fixed, but then I think it should be deleted. Yes, redirects are cheap, but when I search for this fellow the first messy title is displayed on the list of suggestions, but not the newer one.—Anne Delong (talk) 20:49, 12 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Jay Haher

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 01:49, 16 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Pointless redirect - Jay Haher has only been in The Story of Tracy Beaker and that was only for 1 series so unlikely to ever be remembered or even known now, I realize redirects are cheap however IMHO with this BLP it's simply useless (Had they been in TSOTB for 4 series or even 2 then I wouldn't have an issue but they've only been in 1 series and so I don't believe they'll be remembered at all, Thanks –Davey2010Talk 18:35, 5 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Agnostic Satanism

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 01:41, 16 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This redirect was created by a now non-existent user (Sirius85) with a pattern of contributing vandalism and disruptive edits that often involved redirects. The redirect also fits into a pattern of agnosticism-related articles that have been deleted as violating WP policies on notability, lack of reliable citations, verifiability, and representing neologisms. Searching for sources on 'agnostic Satanism' this redirect appears not to correspond to any reliable or verifiable rationale. I would have submitted this redirect for speedy deletion if it had been made recently.

Here is a list of the aforementioned similar deleted articles.

Deleted Page Agnostic Solipsism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Agnostic_Solipsism
Deleted Page Agnostic Neutralism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Agnostic_neutralism
Deleted Page Spiritual Agnosticism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Spiritual_agnosticism
Deleted Page Christian Agnosticism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Christian_Agnostic
Deleted Page Agnostic Meta-Agnosticism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Meta-agnosticism
Deleted page Agnostic Pedestrian https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Agnostic_Pedestrian
Deleted page Model Agnosticism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Model_agnosticism

Edited to clean up formatting and duplicate signature.

KSci (talk) 00:36, 5 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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