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File:Lombardi GABP.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by INeverCry (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 19:11, 30 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:Lombardi GABP.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
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File:Amanda Todd - 01.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Kept as fair use for one article. Diannaa (talk) 04:39, 25 July 2013 (UTC) Note also that this is an incorrect venue for review of a file already labelled as non-free. Diannaa (talk) 16:42, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:Amanda Todd - 01.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
  • The article is not about the person. It is abut the suicide of the person, an event. There is a substantial distinction between the two. If the article were a biographical article I would have a different view. Wikipedia policies for non free files are very clear. All of the criterai must be passed, not one of them and not some of them. We can not exhibit this file in this context, and, since it is not free, we may thus not exhibit it at all. Fiddle Faddle 15:41, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. I think we are forgetting one of the fundamental principles of the project. This is a lasting project not like a facebook memorial. If we delete these images now, they will not be public domain for up to 120 years after the date of creation. All the memorials to them will probably be long gone and forgotten. If none of the other memorials survive then we should be the only source of these images 120 years from now. I doubt that anyone else would keep them stored that long. It is a shame that records have been destroyed for millennia that we would find very useful today. If consensus decides to keep deleting history then how will Wikipedians look in the eyes of historians millennia from now. See also:Ernie_Kovacs#Lost_and_surviving_work--Canoe1967 (talk) 19:19, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Correct. Should we just close them and hat them all here then?--Canoe1967 (talk) 22:16, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yes probably, with a note to the original poster that we appreciate his concern and he has a reasonable point but probably needs to run another WP:RFC to overturn the previous one regarding pictures of dead people. Alternatively, they (or just this first one) could be moved to WP:FFD or WP:NFCR... but deleting these files would require a change in policy I think unless the argument is accepted there that an article titled Suicide of Amanda Todd is not really "about that person" (Amanda Todd) in the same way that one titled Amanda Todd would be. A dubious argument, and its pretty clear that the previous RfC included articles such as "Death of X" as equal to "X". But consensus can change, so maybe its worth moving over there. Herostratus (talk) 02:01, 21 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Someone should go through and remove all the tags and close these discussions then. I still feel that WMF legal should be contacted before another RfC as it is their servers and their ultimate decision on what they wish to host. They may wish a link to my first comment in this section as well to help them decide.--Canoe1967 (talk) 03:35, 21 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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File:M Meier.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Kept as fair use for one article. Diannaa (talk) 04:39, 25 July 2013 (UTC) Note also that this is an incorrect venue for review of a file already labelled as non-free. Diannaa (talk) 16:42, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:M Meier.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
  • The article is not about the person. It is abut the suicide of the person, an event. There is a substantial distinction between the two. If the article were a biographical article I would have a different view. Wikipedia policies for non free files are very clear. All of the criterai must be passed, not one of them and not some of them. We can not exhibit this file in this context, and, since it is not free, we may thus not exhibit it at all. Fiddle Faddle 15:43, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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File:Tyler Clementi.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Kept as fair use for one article. Diannaa (talk) 04:38, 25 July 2013 (UTC) Note also that this is an incorrect venue for review of a file already labelled as non-free. Diannaa (talk) 16:42, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:Tyler Clementi.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
  • The article is not about the person. It is abut the suicide of the person, an event. There is a substantial distinction between the two. If the article were a biographical article I would have a different view. Wikipedia policies for non free files are very clear. All of the criterai must be passed, not one of them and not some of them. We can not exhibit this file in this context, and, since it is not free, we may thus not exhibit it at all. Fiddle Faddle 15:43, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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File:Phoebeprince.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Kept as fair use for one article. Diannaa (talk) 04:38, 25 July 2013 (UTC) Note also that this is an incorrect venue for review of a file already labelled as non-free. Diannaa (talk) 16:42, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:Phoebeprince.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
Delete it, don't care. - Who is John Galt? ✉ 16:06, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Are you the original uploader? An image is not owned by the person who uploads it, so while the uploader has a say, he/she does not have the final decision. WhisperToMe (talk) 17:31, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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File:Jamey Rodemeyer.png

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The result of the discussion was: Kept as fair use for one article. Diannaa (talk) 04:37, 25 July 2013 (UTC) Note also that this is an incorrect venue for review of a file already labelled as non-free. Diannaa (talk) 16:42, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:Jamey Rodemeyer.png (delete | talk | history | logs).
  • The article is not about the person. It is abut the suicide of the person, an event. There is a substantial distinction between the two. If the article were a biographical article I would have a different view. Wikipedia policies for non free files are very clear. All of the criterai must be passed, not one of them and not some of them. We can not exhibit this file in this context, and, since it is not free, we may thus not exhibit it at all. Fiddle Faddle 15:43, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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File:RyanHalligan.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Kept as fair use for one article. Diannaa (talk) 04:37, 25 July 2013 (UTC) Note also that this is an incorrect venue for review of a file already labelled as non-free. Diannaa (talk) 16:42, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:RyanHalligan.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
  • The article is not about the person. It is abut the suicide of the person, an event. There is a substantial distinction between the two. If the article were a biographical article I would have a different view. Wikipedia policies for non free files are very clear. All of the criterai must be passed, not one of them and not some of them. We can not exhibit this file in this context, and, since it is not free, we may thus not exhibit it at all. Fiddle Faddle 15:43, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    • I disagree. Section 1 of the article reads: "Halligan was born on December 18, 1989 in Poughkeepsie, New York, the son of John P. and Kelly Halligan. His family moved to Essex Junction, Vermont, where Halligan attended Hiawatha Elementary School and, later, Albert D. Lawton Middle School. He was described by his father as a "gentle, very sensitive soul," who experienced some developmental delays affecting speech and physical coordination in his early school years. Although he overcame those difficulties by the fourth grade, "He still struggled; school was never easy to him, but he always showed up with a smile on his face, eager to do his best," said his father." This couldn't read more like a biography with its current wording. The lede itself starts: "Ryan Patrick Halligan (December 18, 1989 – October 7, 2003) was an American student from Essex Junction, Vermont" which again reads like every article that is written as a biography. As far as the question of whether this image is appropriate, this is an article that is based on foo, and unless you would have an image of the boy after his suicide (perhaps from his funeral or wake), then I assert that this image is the best that we can offer as no other suitable replacement is available and this image's presence significantly increases readers' understanding of this topic, and its omission would be detrimental to that understanding. Technical 13 (talk) 16:34, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Those details do not make it a biography, though it has more biographical detail than might be desirable. The article content is constrained by its title. It is about the young gentleman's suicide, not about his life. This, however, is not the place to go over those arguments in any detail. WHat is important is that a picture of him, an unfree one, is outside the rules for deployment of non free files. If a free file of him existed there would be a different discussion and I might hold a different view. We have to frame the discussion on copyright and non free material very precisely. There are legal implications of our getting it wrong. That is what the policy is about. Our role is to determine whether this picture fits within that policy. I contend that it does not. Fiddle Faddle 17:01, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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File:Dawnmariewesley.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Kept as fair use for one article. Diannaa (talk) 04:36, 25 July 2013 (UTC) Note also that this is an incorrect venue for review of a file already labelled as non-free. Diannaa (talk) 16:42, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:Dawnmariewesley.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
  • The article is not about the person. It is abut the suicide of the person, an event. There is a substantial distinction between the two. If the article were a biographical article I would have a different view. Wikipedia policies for non free files are very clear. All of the criterai must be passed, not one of them and not some of them. We can not exhibit this file in this context, and, since it is not free, we may thus not exhibit it at all. Fiddle Faddle 15:43, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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File:Kellyyeomans.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Kept as fair use for one article. Diannaa (talk) 04:35, 25 July 2013 (UTC) Note also that this is an incorrect venue for review of a file already labelled as non-free. Diannaa (talk) 16:42, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:Kellyyeomans.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
  • The article is not about the person. It is abut the suicide of the person, an event. There is a substantial distinction between the two. If the article were a biographical article I would have a different view. Wikipedia policies for non free files are very clear. All of the criterai must be passed, not one of them and not some of them. We can not exhibit this file in this context, and, since it is not free, we may thus not exhibit it at all. Fiddle Faddle 15:43, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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File:ChucknorrisWALKofFAME.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by INeverCry (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 19:11, 30 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Iraj Soleymani.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Diannaa (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 03:01, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Homayun Behzadi.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Diannaa (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 03:01, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Hossein Kamali.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Diannaa (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 03:01, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:Hossein Kamali.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
The subject is free, uploaded in fa.wikipedia, published before 1982 (under Iranian copyright law). Tabarez (talk) 19:44, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
In which book or newspaper was it published before 1983? If it was published in a newspaper, on what date was the newspaper published? There is currently no way to verify that this was published more than 30 years ago, or even that it was taken more than 30 years ago. --Stefan2 (talk) 20:57, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
And next, I have mistake about file name. His name is Hossein Kalani not Kamali and if you can, correct it. Thanks. Tabarez (talk) 07:11, 21 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The problem is that ((PD-Iran)) only applies to photos published before 1983. We have no way of telling whether this was published at that time or whether it remained unpublished in a drawer for a few decades. --Stefan2 (talk) 10:32, 21 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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File:Jafar Kashani.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Diannaa (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 03:01, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:Jafar Kashani.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
The subject is free, uploaded in fa.wikipedia, published before 1982 (under Iranian copyright law). Tabarez (talk) 19:44, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
In which book or newspaper was it published before 1983? If it was published in a newspaper, on what date was the newspaper published? There is currently no way to verify that this was published more than 30 years ago, or even that it was taken more than 30 years ago. --Stefan2 (talk) 20:57, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
If this (and the others below) are free, then copy it to commons and we won't need the fa or the en versions  Ronhjones  (Talk) 21:48, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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File:Safar Iranpak Persepolis.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Diannaa (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 03:01, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:Safar Iranpak Persepolis.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
The subject is free, uploaded in fa.wikipedia, published before 1982 (under Iranian copyright law). Tabarez (talk) 19:45, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
In which book or newspaper was it published before 1983? If it was published in a newspaper, on what date was the newspaper published? There is currently no way to verify that this was published more than 30 years ago, or even that it was taken more than 30 years ago. --Stefan2 (talk) 20:58, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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File:Ebrahim Ashtiani.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Diannaa (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 03:01, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:Ebrahim Ashtiani.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
The subject is free, uploaded in fa.wikipedia, published before 1982 (under Iranian copyright law). Tabarez (talk) 19:45, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
In which book or newspaper was it published before 1983? If it was published in a newspaper, on what date was the newspaper published? There is currently no way to verify that this was published more than 30 years ago, or even that it was taken more than 30 years ago. --Stefan2 (talk) 20:58, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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File:Mohammad Panjali.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Diannaa (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 03:01, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:Mohammad Panjali.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
The subject is free, uploaded in fa.wikipedia, published before 1982 (under Iranian copyright law). Tabarez (talk) 19:45, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
In which book or newspaper was it published before 1983? If it was published in a newspaper, on what date was the newspaper published? There is currently no way to verify that this was published more than 30 years ago, or even that it was taken more than 30 years ago. --Stefan2 (talk) 20:59, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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File:Abulhassan Navab.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Diannaa (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 03:01, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Alireza Zakani.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted as F9 by INeverCry (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 00:54, 21 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Mehdi Jafarpour.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted as F9 by Sphilbrick (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 15:10, 25 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Mehdi Karimian.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted as F9 by Sphilbrick (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 15:10, 25 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:Mehdi Karimian.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
I don't know the uploader is the real publisher or not, I only cropped. Please wait until final discussion but I don't saw this images anywhere only in one website it's might be for the uploader. Tabarez (talk) 19:46, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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File:Rahman Ahmadi.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted as F9 by Sphilbrick (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 15:10, 25 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Kranjcar in 2012.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted as F9 by Sphilbrick (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 15:10, 25 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Mahmoud Karimi.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted as F9 by Sphilbrick (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 15:10, 25 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Kranjcar, head coach of Sepahan.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted as F9 by Sphilbrick (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 15:10, 25 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted as F9 by Sphilbrick (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 15:10, 25 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted as F9 by Sphilbrick (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 15:10, 25 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted as F9 by Sphilbrick (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 15:10, 25 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted as F9 by Sphilbrick (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 15:10, 25 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted as F4 by Closedmouth (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 16:10, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted as F8 by Diannaa (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT⚡ 03:01, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by INeverCry (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 19:11, 30 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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