The result of the discussion was: Keep - As withdrawn by nom. Skier Dude (talk) 01:19, 11 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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.The result of the discussion was: kept with clarified dates. Skier Dude (talk) 01:23, 11 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The result of the debate was: 'kept with dates amended. Skier Dude (talk) 01:26, 11 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The result of the discussion was: Keep - postcards were generally published shortly after a photograph was taken. If the image was published before 1941, it is free in the US as well as India. Magog the Ogre (talk) 08:11, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The result of the discussion was: no consensus. SchuminWeb (Talk) 17:43, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The result of the debate was: keep as license changed & FuR added. Skier Dude (talk) 01:31, 11 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The result of the discussion was: delete. To be PD in the US, it must be have been published before 1923, or the author must have died before 1926 for URAA. He would have been 49 in 1923, which, while a bit old for his appearance, would not have been completely unreasonable. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 04:18, 31 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The result of the discussion was: Keep - a civil war era photo of a general was probably distributed (i.e., published) near the time of its creation. Without evidence to the contrary, it is reasonable to assume it's public domain. Magog the Ogre (talk) 08:03, 8 June 2012 (UTC)}[reply]
The result of the discussion was: no consensus. SchuminWeb (Talk) 17:47, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The picture of Gen.Gariboldi is an official italian army photo, released in 1942 togheter with a video newsreel after a visit of Gen.Gariboldi to the 120th Artillery Rgt on the Russian Front. I suppose it could be usefull to explain the Italian Army pictures release procedure, to avoid confusion about other italian wartime pictures.
1)- All "official" italian wartime pictures and videos were produced by the Italian Army (or Navy, or Air Force) operators, there were not independent photoreporters owning the proprerty of their own individual pictures (as could be for - as an example - an US "Life" magazine reporter). The pictures/videos were then released as public domain to the press direcly by the Army (or Navy, or Air Force), and could be used freely. As such, when you find an official Italian wartime picture it is either scanned from a book, magazine etc published in wartime, or it comes from the Italian Army (or Navy, or Air Force) archives, that still have copies of all the wartime released pictures and provides them on request. In both cases, the picture have been released to public domain by the owner (i.e. the Army).
2)- Even if it was not so (and it was), Italian laws are quite clear about when a "generic" picture (i.e. not an artistic work) becomes public domain. Generic pictures becomes public domain for the Italian Law after 20 years from *creation*, so this particular picture (taken in late summer 1942) have been in the public domain since 1962 (about 50 years ago!) anyway. For a more detailed description of the Italian copyright laws, see rhe following infobox. Best regards, and for further contacts please address your messages on my Italian Wiki page at [[4]] as I seldom open my en.Wiki page. Best regards --Arturolorioli (talk) 08:41, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
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Dear Stefan, I friendly and respectfully beg to disagree. You say:"the permission for army photos only applies for journalistic purposes", and I have absolutely no trace of this limitation anywhere. Maybe is so for the US armed forces, but not for the Italian ones. About the other point, as I said the picture was taken as part of a wartime newsreel (if you do any search on internet for images about Gen.Gariboldi), you will certainly find some other frames of the same series. As such, it was "published" (i.e. released in the cinemas as a newsreel, and as pictures to the press) during 1942. About copyright notices, there wouldn't be any copyright anyway, as the operator was from the military (so the rights ot the pictures/films etc he took were not his own, but of the Army/Navy or Air Force, who did realease them for public use anyway). Neither I can really understood the nature of the problem: even admitting that by the US laws the image is not copyright free (and IMHO it is not so), the only one entitled to complain would be the Italian Army ... who would *not* be legally entitled to complain as its copyright did not existed to start with (as all its wartime propaganda pictures were released to the public domain), and even if it had existed to start with according to the Italian Law it had expired more than half a century ago!!! Yes. it's really a bit hard for me to get were the problem is. That said, and of course in the most friendly and relaxed terms, it is not a particularly pressing matter for me. I hope the whole issue could be handled in terms of common sense, otherwise do as you think better: en.Wikipedia survived for years without a picture of Gen.gariboldi, I'm rather positive it will continue to happily survive for years without it :) The only ones to be damaged will be the en.Wikipedia users (and not that much, as they could easily find pictures of Gen.Gariboldi elsewhere on internet without any problem). All the best --Arturolorioli (talk) 23:46, 6 June 2012 (UTC) P.S. I enclose again the related copyright box, that was probably mistakenly removed. --Arturolorioli (talk) 23:46, 6 June 2012 (UTC) ((PD-Italy))[reply]
The result of the discussion was: Keep Magog the Ogre (talk) 08:01, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Magog the Ogre (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 10:01, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]