Rehab (Rihanna song)

Previous peer review

This peer review discussion has been closed.
I've listed this article for peer review because… I want to make it a Featured Article and I want an experienced reviewer to give me tasks when it comes to grammar, prose and other FA things. I would be very greatful.

Thanks, Tomica1111 (talk) 10:55, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Copying my reason much? Calvin NaNaNaC'mon! 12:43, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Happy?! Tomica1111 (talk) 12:51, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]


((Doing)) --Efe (talk) 12:27, 27 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Tomica1111 (talk) 12:41, 27 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Efe (talk · contribs) comments
I suppose can go UK with US ?! Tomica1111 (talk) 15:23, 27 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. US for Billboard Hot 100. --Efe (talk) 15:40, 27 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

That's all for now. I think the article has a lot of issues. Just ping me. Thanks. --Efe (talk) 12:56, 27 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

What I mean is there is an original research here, based on the interpretation of the sheet music. Also, I personally think the interpretation is factually incorrect. A chord progression by definition is "any harmonic set of two–three or more notes that is heard as if sounding simultaneously". What makes "G♯m–B–F♯–E" a chord progression? --Efe (talk) 05:14, 3 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
 Not done --Efe (talk) 09:10, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • You need not follow the charting of the song. Just state that it peaked at that position. Unless there's a reason to purposely do it. Like it debuted, and then it went off the chart for months, then it reappeared on say top 10 or top 5. Its actually explained in the guide. --Efe (talk) 13:13, 28 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yeah, I think you are right !

I'll have a review on this during the weekend. Meantime, I suggest you go get a couple more of eyes. More reviewers less errors spotted during the FAC. Thanks. --Efe (talk) 13:49, 29 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The User:Local hero, which is actually a native speaker of English, went through the grammar of the article, and fixed some things. I will ask some other more experienced users to check the article. Tomica1111 (talk) 10:05, 31 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Mark, can you please explain your point in simpler words? Jivesh 1205 (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 12:03, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I thought I was clear enough. Anyway, what I was trying to say was that the article should give more background as regards to its producers and writers, and what technique did they follow. --Efe (talk) 12:13, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Brief comments from Nikkimaria
Quick commetn from Tbhotch

File:Rihanna-brisbane.jpg needs ALT for consistency. Tbhotch. Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 01:26, 2 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Quick comment for yours truly

The music video screen-shot fails NFCC, and worst of all, has a crappy description. "Rihanna and Justin Timberlake standing in a scene from the music video for "Rehab"." Standing!? Really?--CallMeNathanTalk2Me 05:39, 3 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Removed Tomica1111Question Existing? 12:37, 3 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Quick comment
Comments by Jivesh
Before beginning i would like to tell you that you will be asked to make some changes of which you have never heard before. Let me tell you that FA is verify different from GA. Jivesh Talk2Me 19:05, 8 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
You are free to disagree when you do not like my suggestions. Jivesh Talk2Me 19:28, 8 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, Jivesh I will be aware of that. Thanks btw Tomica1111Question Existing? 21:05, 8 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Nice. Jivesh Talk2Me 10:29, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Infobox
Lead
 Done Tomica1111Question Existing? 21:19, 8 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Nice. Jivesh Talk2Me 10:29, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
General Comment: Quite a lot of work to be done here. Seems that the GA review did not dig in the article's prose enough. (No offense intended) Jivesh Talk2Me 19:29, 8 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I will continue tomorrow. Jivesh Talk2Me 19:32, 8 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

>>>> Switching to other sections Jivesh Talk2Me 10:33, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Background
Well she was accompanying them on the tour right? One night after the show in Chicago they went in a studio and made a stub beat or something, and laterafter the show in New York City, they went in studio but now in New York City and Justin hardly stated that he wanted to write a song for her. The original text from the article - Well, Timbaland was on tour with Justin and we had to follow Timbaland, really. So we went to Chicago first and one night after the show, Justin just came into the studio and he started messing around, making a beat. And it was fun. We played around with that one, too. And when we came to New York, Justin came back to the studio and he was like, I wanna write this song for Rihanna. Tomica1111Question Existing? 10:46, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I will do it for you later. Jivesh Talk2Me 10:55, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
General Comment: Re-arrange the whole section. It is difficult to read through it. I will stop here for now and will continue at night. Jivesh Talk2Me 10:53, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Composition

General Comment: One of the best composition sections i have ever read. Did you write it alone? Jivesh Talk2Me 17:47, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I have changed idea to concept. Jivesh Talk2Me 17:51, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
This is how a composition section should be.. I am referring to the order. But here, it seems the music sample is disrupting the structure. Maybe if you find more information about the progression of the song, the section size could be increased and therefore balanced. Please try. After all, this is Rihanna. There must be more reviews. Jivesh Talk2Me 17:58, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I done most of the issues, however you can help me with the notes. The section is quite good, I didn't write it alone, I expanded it from a previous user work. Btw about the song follows a chord progression of G♯m–B–F♯–E in the verses and chorus..., According to User:Efe it should be removed, cause it's not an original research. And I don't really know for what should I look about? — Tomica1111Question Existing? 18:07, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It is not original research. You just need to know how to read a sheet music. Concerning the expansion, look for more lyrics from the second verse, third verse, etc. I am fixing the music notes issues for you. Jivesh Talk2Me 18:15, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Auuu I hate composition sections. Why not merging this "Rehab" opens with a tension-filled string section,[13] played by Stevie Blacke,[5] as a contrasting violin, cello and tambourine instrumental groove with Hannon Lane's keyboard melody.[8] It then transitions into Rihanna's emotional vocals in the opening lines "Baby, baby, when we first met/I never felt something so strong".[14] The song's middle 8 features a vocal call and response between Rihanna and Timberlake in which the latter chants "Now ladies gimme that" and Rihanna responds with the "Oh, oh, oh, oh, ohohoh, oh, oh, ohh" ad-lib hook.[8] with the first paragraph? — Tomica1111Question Existing? 18:19, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm okay. Jivesh Talk2Me 18:38, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Lead (Again)

Critical reception

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General Comment: Avoid usage of word track. From what i read here, the song received mixed to positive reviews. Change everywhwere. Jivesh Talk2Me 11:36, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note. Tommy i do not know who reviewed this article for you but the prose is choppy. I do not want to offend you. My intentions are sincere and my friendship for you is genuine. So would you mind if instead of continuing this peer review, i copy-edit the article? If you want the review instead, please feel free to tell me. I will not be angry or whatever. Do not worry, i will not take credit just for a copy-edit. It was your article and it will remain as such. Jivesh Talk2Me 11:40, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Go ahead my friend. Copy-edit it. I trust you, of course u will get credit in the nomination, cause you are helping me hard. You have my permission. You can c/e it. — Tomica1111Question Existing? 12:13, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, i will do it. But i do not want credit. It is your article Tommy. I did nothing for it. Jivesh Talk2Me 12:33, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I have to agree with Jivesh here Tommy. We do not do it for credit. We help out because: 1)We want to help out our friend and 2) We want to help the Encyclopedia :) Novice7 (talk) 12:37, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, but you were one of the few editors that help hard on it. You helped me to get rid off the choppy prose. But, ok If both of u say it, I'il have to respect that. Novice feel free and left comments also. I also trust you ;). Btw friend I did not un-italicized Slant Magazine per Nikkimaria's comment. — Tomica1111Question Existing? 12:39, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, I'll comment on the article soon. Novice7 (talk) 12:46, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Tommy do not forget to make the corrections for the critical reception section. Listen, i know i have helped you a lot with the prose but i prefer not take any credit. Taking credits often results in a mess here. Several unwanted issues like us fighting over small things, could arise. I promise you that i will always help you with copy-edits, PRs, comments at GANs etc, irrespective of having credit or not. Do not worry my friend. I am here Anytime You Need a Friend. Jivesh Talk2Me 16:30, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It's your choice Jivesh. I made proposal, so it's to u now. You can change your opinion anytime. I addressed the critical reception issues. :) I MUST SAY IN BOLD AND CAPITAL ... YOU ARE MY BEST FRIEND ON WIKIPEDIA.— Tomica1111Question Existing? 20:00, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Wow. Thanks. You are also among my best friends. Jivesh boodhun (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 04:11, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Final comments of Efe
  • "This was the same technique he employed during the writing process of the album. As it was reported, they had no concrete plans about the themes and the lyrics of the songs and all of them came in the last minute; the same happened with "Rehab"" Was it? --Efe (talk) 14:01, 20 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • "American actress and television personality Kim Kardashian concurred with Rihanna by saying that any girl that has gone through a break-up should listen to it." Who is she? What makes her relevant? What is the weight of her comment? --Efe (talk) 14:01, 20 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • "It also peaked at number 19 on the US Pop Songs chart,[26] and at number 52 on the US Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs chart." Unless it broke or set record on those territories. --Efe (talk) 14:01, 20 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Jessica Biel, Timberlake's then-girlfriend, was reportedly upset with her boyfriend because of the sexual chemistry between him and Rihanna during the filming of the video.[44] Tim Nixon of The Sun concurred, writing: "[The video] can't be easy for Chris Brown and Jessica Biel to watch. The red hot chemistry between their respective partners Rihanna and Justin Timberlake in the pop stars' new video must be hard to stomach."[45] Speaking to Access Hollywood, Timberlake described the experience of shooting the video: "I got there and I was like really? I'm the guy in the video. So, I had to give them all insecurities about that. But yeah we had a great time, we goofed around at the shoot most of the time."" This seems like a "showbiz" column / writeup. --
  • "Rihanna performed the song wearing a revealing leather outfit." Fancruft, unless it earned attention like those mentioned in the preceding paragraph. But then be careful on those stuffs. They tend to be fancrufty.. --

That's all. Please go over the article before submitting it to FAC. Thanks and great job. --Efe (talk) 14:01, 20 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]