The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was: delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:02, 25 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Portal:Transport in Pakistan

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A navbox-cloned automated portal, redundant to its components.

Created[1] in January 2019‎ by Pakieditor (talk · contribs).

This is one of the last few dozen remaining fully-automated portals, out of over 4,000 created by @The Transhumanist (TTH) and others. It draws its "selected articles" list solely from 4 navboxes:

It draws its "selected images" list solely from the head article Transport in Pakistan.

Two newish features of the Wikimedia software means that the article and navboxes offers all the functionality which portals like this set out to offer. Both features are available only to ordinary readers who are not logged in, but you can test them without logging out by right-clicking on a link, and the select "open in private window" (in Firefox) or "open in incognito window" (Chrome).

mouseover: on any link, mouseover shows you the picture and the start of the lead. So the preview-selected page-function of portals is redundant: something almost as good is available automatically on any navbox or other set of links. Try it on e.g. head article Fiction and its navboxes. ... or any of the other pages listed above.
automatic imagery galleries: clicking on an image brings up an image gallery of all the images on that page. It's full-screen, so it's actually much better than even a click-for-next image gallery on a portal. Try it on any of the articles listed above Fiction, Fantasy, Science fiction, Crime fiction

Similar features have been available since 2015 to users of Wikipedia's Android app.

This redundancy has been belatedly acknowledged by TTH, who wrote at the start of this month New encyclopedia program features will likely eventually render most portals obsolete. For example, the pop-up feature of MediaWiki provides much the same functionality as excerpts in portals already, and there is also a slideshow feature to view all the images on the current page (just click on any image, and that activates the slideshow). It's a pity that despite the acknowledgements, he still leaves it to others to identify and remove his automated spam.

This may be seen as broad topic which could satisfy WP:POG ... So I propose that this portal be deleted per WP:TNT, without prejudice to recreating a curated portal in accordance with whatever criteria the community may have agreed at that time. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 00:39, 18 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Because this portal was created in January, it was necessary to adjust the baseline period to February and March 2019. In this period there were 62 pageviews. That is not an average. That is the total, for an average of 1 daily. The head article, in the same time, had 149 pageviews, but that does not include views of the articles that were used to build the portal. We don't need a portal that is seen once a day. Robert McClenon (talk) 22:18, 18 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. I guess that is only the option I have. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Pakieditor (talk) 19:14, 19 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as a WP:REDUNDANTFORK of navboxes. SITH (talk) 12:07, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.