- Comments
- The top image is a bit too self-referential for my taste, others may disagree. Cirt (talk) 17:37, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Changed banner --ErickAgain (talk) 02:30, 28 October 2008 (UTC).[reply]
 Not done - Way too tacky. Really this top banner is not needed at all, I think it should simply be removed altogether. Cirt (talk) 22:49, 8 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Is this a personal taste or shouldn't there be banners at all? Take a look at the featured portals Portal:Japan and Portal:Africa which also use banners and the criteria for portals state: attractive, aesthetically pleasing. --ErickAgain (talk) 11:17, 9 December 2008 (UTC).[reply]
- I agree, what's the criteria for removing the Portal banner? The previous one was quite nice but was changed for being "to self-referential". How about going back to that one? --Victor12 (talk) 14:06, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- WP:WIAFPO Criteria number 4. and Wikipedia:Avoid self-references apply here. And yes it is also my taste as well. Cirt (talk) 19:02, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- For the time being I removed the banner. Banners always will be self-referential and thus will never meet the criteria. As portals are one of the few entities on wikipedia which are not entirely encyclopaedic but need to be attractive, aesthetically pleasing also, I still think the banner is a good addition to the portal. Further discussion on this subject should take place elsewhere until then the banner will remain hidden and this remark could be closed.--ErickAgain (talk) 19:16, 10 December 2008 (UTC).[reply]
- News section looks clunky, good be improved by standardizing with Wikinews Importer Bot (talk · contribs). Cirt (talk) 17:37, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Not sure what you mean here. Coverage of Peru at Wikinews is quite spotty so no point in using the Wikinews Importer Bot. Any format improvement suggestions? --Victor12 (talk) 18:28, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Wikinews Importer Bot (talk · contribs) could be used, in addition to a few chosen news events as used currently. Cirt (talk) 00:41, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- The problem with the bot is that there aren't that many news about Peru at wikinews. According to http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Portal:Peru there are only four Peru related news items for all of 2008 at wikinews so it would not be very useful to use the bot. Could you be more specific about why this section looks "clunky". --Victor12 (talk) 01:30, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- It has redlinks. It has an awkward template-link to Wikinews at the bottom, instead of a different style which might mesh better with that subsection. Cirt (talk) 22:56, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Redlinks are there for a reason which I already explained in the first paragraph of this nomination. The purpose of this news section is not to serve as a link to Wikinews where, as I have said, coverage of Peru is virtually non-existant; the purpose is to point the reader to Peru related articles at Wikipedia. As for the template, I just changed it. Better now? --Victor12 (talk) 01:05, 15 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- IMO and per general consensus from previous discussion in other WP:FPORTCs - redlinks really are not appropriate on a portal's main page, except usually in the Things you can do section under WP:Requested articles. Cirt (talk) 04:06, 22 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- OK, no red links now. --Victor12 (talk) 16:32, 19 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Looks good. Cirt (talk) 22:45, 8 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Category section text is a bit small, might look nicer if modeled after Portal:Sustainable development or Portal:Oregon. Cirt (talk) 17:37, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Yeah this is a problem. I'll try to work on it. --Victor12 (talk) 18:28, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I changed the format of this section. Does it look better? --Victor12 (talk) 18:49, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Looks much better. Cirt (talk) 00:41, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Interesting style for Things you can do - I like it. Cirt (talk) 17:37, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Did you know footer could use a link to WP:Recent additions. Cirt (talk) 17:37, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- But that link is not Peru related. --Victor12 (talk) 18:28, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Yes, but it provides links to other Did you know hooks for those that are interested. It is a fairly common feature on other WP:FPORTs. Cirt (talk) 00:41, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Not sure about this one. I'd like to read more comments on this issue. --Victor12 (talk) 01:30, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Not done. Also this issue was raised by another editor, below. Cirt (talk) 22:46, 8 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Added link --ErickAgain (talk) 15:27, 10 December 2008 (UTC).[reply]
- Missing: - Selected biography section. Cirt (talk) 17:37, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Already explained above. --Victor12 (talk) 18:28, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Hrm, could there be some other sort of Selected section instead of biography? Perhaps cities, notable events, something like that? Cirt (talk) 00:41, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- As I said above there are not many good articles to select from, plus adding one more section would unbalance the portal. --Victor12 (talk) 01:30, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- There are always ways to work to rebalance the portal. And most WP:FPORTs do not have just one randomized Selected article section. Cirt (talk) 22:57, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Well, there's not enough high quality content to make a new section of selected articles. A notable events section could be possible but it would take lots of work and time so if this is a major obstacle for this nomination, then the portal should be failed until such work is done. --Victor12 (talk) 01:05, 15 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Yes, this is a good idea - it's not as good as just adding some other sort of "Selected content" section, but it would help. Good models are at WP:FPORTs: Biography, Religion, War, Holidays and Oregon. The portal just looks lacking/deficient with only the one Selected content section. Cirt (talk) 04:08, 22 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Added a Selected anniversaries section "In this month" --ErickAgain (talk) 15:49, 28 October 2008 (UTC).[reply]
- Added another selected article section "Selected battle" reflecting the turbulent history of Peru --ErickAgain (talk) 21:26, 30 October 2008 (UTC).[reply]
- Done. Looks better. Cirt (talk) 22:48, 8 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Would look nice with a Selected quotes section, Portal:Sustainable development has a nice model to use. Cirt (talk) 17:37, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- We had one such section but it had only two quotes, one of them not very relevant, so I removed it. A further problem with such a section is the need for reliable translations as most Peru related quotes are in Spanish. --Victor12 (talk) 18:28, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I am sure that you could find plenty of quotes in secondary sources if you give it a try, however this is generally an optional section and just a suggestion. Cirt (talk) 00:41, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Not done This has not been addressed. Cirt (talk) 22:48, 8 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- It hasn't, however I thought the whole point of this objection was to get more selected content sections in the portal, not necessarily selected quotes. New sections have now been added to the portal, is there a requirement to have a "selected quotes" section in every featured portal? --Victor12 (talk) 14:06, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I am noting here that this is a suggestion, one that is certainly very doable, that was not addressed. Cirt (talk) 19:03, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- So the portal can be featured without such a section, right? --Victor12 (talk) 17:27, 10 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Selected picture - missing roll-over caption on the images. Cirt (talk) 17:37, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Wouldn't this be redundant? I mean the picture already has a caption beneath it. See Today's featured picture at Wikipedia's main page, it has no roll-over caption, just the name of the pic file. --Victor12 (talk) 18:28, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Again, this is a common feature on WP:FPORTs, and it looks better to have a rollover caption then something.jpg when the mouse moves over the image. Cirt (talk) 00:41, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Fair enough. Just added captions for all pics. --Victor12 (talk) 01:30, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Thank you, Cirt (talk) 22:58, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Peru topics - better to subst the template instead, and then reformat the entries, for example see Portal:Education. Cirt (talk) 17:37, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Hmmm... the thing is the topics template is subject to changes so I think it is better to transclude to have it synchronized with articles such as Peru, which feature the ((Peru topics/Content)) template. --Victor12 (talk) 18:28, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Yes but it looks quite odd with the current formatting/style. Best if someone associated with the portal were to keep on top of the changes and change the Topics subpage accordingly. Or better yet, choose the most important topic links and include those in the subpage, and begin to differentiate from the template. Cirt (talk) 00:41, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Does it look odd? How so? Maybe I've been staring to much at this portal to have an unbiased opinion, ;-) --Victor12 (talk) 01:30, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Well for one thing the color scheme of the template does not jive with the portal itself. Cirt (talk) 22:59, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I see what you mean. I'll try to work on this. --Victor12 (talk) 01:05, 15 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Did some work on this. --ErickAgain (talk) 17:34, 8 September 2008 (UTC).[reply]
- Done. Looks good. Cirt (talk) 22:44, 8 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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