Comments: I am not familiar with the subject (apart from having heard of Michael Jackson), so please ignore if my comments don't make sense.
- Could we have a little statistics in the lead: how many unreleased songs (Is this list complete?), how many of these written by Jackson, how many jointly written by Jackson, how many by other writers
- If a song was not written by Jackson (e.g. "Angel"), does it mean that it was written specifically for Jackson?
- Is it possible to find out the year a song was registered with Broadcast Music Incorporated or EMI Music Publishing?
- How is the sorting of the "writers" column arranged in case of multiple writers?
- In the "Key" section, the phrase "Jackson-written (unless otherwise noted)" could be removed in my opinion. It is like saying A OR (NOT A). Is it technically possible to have a combination of the blue and magenta color instead of the orange?
- The lead mentions the "Songwriters Hall of Fame" (with apostrophe or without?), the ASCAP and the CMRRA as bodies which registered unreleased Jackson songs. However in the main table, I cannot see any of these bodies mentioned. Why? bamse (talk) 11:48, 29 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- The exact number of unreleased Jackson songs is unknown. I have added to the last paragraph that there are known to be hundreds of unrleased songs written/recorded by Jackson. The list is incomplete, in that not all of the existing unreleased songs/collaborations have been named in reliable sources.
- No, not all of the non-Jackson-written songs were written specifically for him.
- The book I'm using doesn't have dates for the songs published with BMI or EMI. Their websites don't provide the dates either.
- In the case of multiple writers, the person with the highest letter surname (eg, Sue Shifrin) comes before those with lower letter surnames (eg, Terry Britten). The only exception is when Michael Jackson is one of the multiple writers. In that situation, he is above everybody else, as it is most probable that readers are sorting to find songs written by Jackson. Note to any other reviewers I am, of course, open to any other suggestions on how to deal with multiple writers in a sortable table.
- Removed "Jackson-written (unless otherwise noted)". Blue + pink = a light purple(ish) color, so I've changed the orange to medium slate blue, as purple was considered too harsh (see first review).
- Removed apostrophe from Sonwriters Hall of Fame. Jackson is known to have published unreleased songs with ASCAP, CMRRA, etc, but they have not been named. That's why they don't appear in the table.
- Thank you for your comments. :) Pyrrhus16 14:59, 29 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- See "6." below.
- I see. What makes the songs that were not written specifically for him a "Michael Jackson material"?
- OK. Would be interesting though.
- This way of ordering makes sense to me. An alternative would be to introduce a sortkey and have multiple writers sort as "multiple" or something like that.
- I was thinking of a striped blue-pink, but the new color is fine with me. Also, could you rewrite the line "Denotes the year a song was registered with the United States Copyright Office" in the same style as the other keys, i.e.: "Denotes songs registered with the United States Copyright Office and the year of registration"? Also in the same line, the "(Year)" should be made smaller as it appears as superscript.
- It should be made more clear which songs are included in the list (all? songs registered with Broadcast Music Incorporated, EMI, United States Copyright Office, mentioned in his 1993 deposition?).
- Thank you for the reply. bamse (talk) 18:18, 29 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Re: number 2, it is considered Michael Jackson material because it has been recorded by him, despite it not being written for or by him. Done number 5. Re: 1 and 6, I've tried to clarify with this edit to the lead. Pyrrhus16 19:03, 29 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Re number 2: Does it have to be the first recording of that song or could it be the recording of an old song (released and sung by others a long time ago, but now with Michael)? Thanks for fixing 5. Also 1 and 6 are much clearer now. I suppose that all songs mentioned in the 1993 deposition are listed. Correct? bamse (talk) 19:35, 29 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I believe the only songs on the list that have been recorded before by other artists are "Behind the Mask" and "Higher Ground". I believe the rest are first recordings, though the sources do not explicitly state this. And yes, all of the songs mentioned in the 1993 deposition are listed. Pyrrhus16 19:46, 29 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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