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List of Premier League winning players[edit]

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Nominator(s): Mattythewhite (talk) 15:49, 25 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This is a list of players of Premier League who have received a medal for winning the title. The introduction includes a brief summary of what the Premier League is and its history, the requirements for receiving a medal, and statistics regarding the medals that have been awarded over the years. The list includes what I believe to be the key relevant information for a list of this nature. The entries are cited to the player profiles on the Premier League site, which hold a record as to which players have and have not received medals. The content in the nationality and club tables is taken from the Premier League references used in the main list.

I stumbled across this list only a few weeks ago when using it as a directory for adding the player profiles as a reference for Premier League honours in player biographies. I noticed a couple of players in the list who hadn't actually received medals, which I removed accordingly, before deciding to give the list a more thorough cleanup. This is what the list looked like before my recent updates, in which not a single entry was referenced. I believe the list has now been brought up to the standards set out at the FL criteria. Thanks, Mattythewhite (talk) 15:49, 25 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Minor comments by Lemonade51

Think https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Giggs_PL_trophy.jpg would work better as a lead image. For a start he's actually holding the prize in question.
- Agreed. Mattythewhite (talk) 19:30, 2 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The only issue I have at first glance is medals. "484 medals awarded to 243 players", does this take into account that the 92–93 United side never actually got medals but mini trophies? Igors Stepanovs didn't receive anything at the Arsenal's 2001–02 trophy presentation because he didn't play the required number of games then. There is footage on YouTube, I'll try and dig it out. But then the PL website suggests he did. Maybe he got one later on. Think you've done the right thing in renaming the list to reflect this. Lemonade51 (talk) 17:08, 1 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- It does include the players from the first season who received the mini trophies. Do you think this needs clarifying? Mattythewhite (talk) 19:30, 2 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm guessing Stepanovs qualified through special dispensation. Mattythewhite (talk) 19:30, 2 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Courcelles (talk) 16:30, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
*"for back-up goalkeepers and outfield players who did not make the minimum number of appearances through injury." Does the injury clause apply to the goaltenders as well? Right now that is ambiguous whether both positions must have suffered injury to get a medal. Otherwise this looks good. Courcelles (talk) 17:43, 21 May 2018 (UTC)[reply] Removed "outfield", which is in line with the source. Mattythewhite (talk) 23:05, 25 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Courcelles (talk) 16:30, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

*"for back-up goalkeepers and outfield players who did not make the minimum number of appearances through injury." Does the injury clause apply to the goaltenders as well? Right now that is ambiguous whether both positions must have suffered injury to get a medal.

Otherwise this looks good. Courcelles (talk) 17:43, 21 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Removed "outfield", which is in line with the source. Mattythewhite (talk) 23:05, 25 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Support Courcelles (talk) 16:30, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Support - can't see any issues -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 12:13, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 18:21, 11 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Comments You could probably beef up that lead image, as the TOC adds quite a bit of whitespace below the lead. Expanded, what do you think? Mattythewhite (talk) 23:15, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply] Having read the lead, shouldn't the title really be "Premier League medal-winners"? Possibly. Although that exact wording would be ambiguous as managers receive medals too. Lemonade51, Courcelles, ChrisTheDude, do you have any thoughts on this, having already taken a look at the list? Mattythewhite (talk) 23:15, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply] Not to mention the problem of the first year. I think the current title is fine. Courcelles (talk) 23:19, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply] I'm just not convinced. The players listed below technically won the Premier League, or at least played in Premier League-winning teams, (ooh, should the current title be hyphenated??), they just didn't receive a winner's medal. The Rambling Man (talk) 06:55, 9 June 2018 (UTC)[reply] Surely if the official PL website doesn't list it in their honours, then it doesn't regard them as having won it? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:53, 11 June 2018 (UTC)[reply] Yeah, that's fair. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:21, 11 June 2018 (UTC)[reply] Just out of interest, can you find any examples of people who played fewer than five matches for a title-winning team and check their Premier League web page doesn't list them as winners? I could find them all, but that would be boring even by my standards :-) Here's a few: Neil Webb (Man Utd, 92/93), Scott Marshall (Arsenal, 97/98), Chris Eagles (Man Utd, 06/07), Ola Aina (Chelsea, 16/17). Mattythewhite (talk) 23:15, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply] Thanks, that's helpful. The Rambling Man (talk) 06:55, 9 June 2018 (UTC)[reply] "who spent his entire career at the club, " probably needs a ref. Referenced. Mattythewhite (talk) 23:15, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply] "The list is ordered" -> "The list is initially ordered" (it's sortable). Added. Mattythewhite (talk) 23:15, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply] " Highest number of " why not just "Most"? "Most" it is. Mattythewhite (talk) 23:15, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply] The Rambling Man (talk) 15:43, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 18:21, 11 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

You could probably beef up that lead image, as the TOC adds quite a bit of whitespace below the lead.
- Expanded, what do you think? Mattythewhite (talk) 23:15, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Having read the lead, shouldn't the title really be "Premier League medal-winners"?
- Possibly. Although that exact wording would be ambiguous as managers receive medals too. Lemonade51, Courcelles, ChrisTheDude, do you have any thoughts on this, having already taken a look at the list? Mattythewhite (talk) 23:15, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  - Not to mention the problem of the first year. I think the current title is fine. Courcelles (talk) 23:19, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    - I'm just not convinced. The players listed below technically won the Premier League, or at least played in Premier League-winning teams, (ooh, should the current title be hyphenated??), they just didn't receive a winner's medal. The Rambling Man (talk) 06:55, 9 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
      - Surely if the official PL website doesn't list it in their honours, then it doesn't regard them as having won it? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:53, 11 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
        Yeah, that's fair. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:21, 11 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Just out of interest, can you find any examples of people who played fewer than five matches for a title-winning team and check their Premier League web page doesn't list them as winners?
- I could find them all, but that would be boring even by my standards :-) Here's a few: Neil Webb (Man Utd, 92/93), Scott Marshall (Arsenal, 97/98), Chris Eagles (Man Utd, 06/07), Ola Aina (Chelsea, 16/17). Mattythewhite (talk) 23:15, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  - Thanks, that's helpful. The Rambling Man (talk) 06:55, 9 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
"who spent his entire career at the club, " probably needs a ref.
- Referenced. Mattythewhite (talk) 23:15, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
"The list is ordered" -> "The list is initially ordered" (it's sortable).
- Added. Mattythewhite (talk) 23:15, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
" Highest number of " why not just "Most"?
- "Most" it is. Mattythewhite (talk) 23:15, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The Rambling Man (talk) 15:43, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Support my concerns addressed. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:21, 11 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Source review passed; promoting. --Pres N 01:51, 14 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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