- lolene (talk|edit|history|logs|links|watch) (XfD|restore)
Page has been deleted as the page was created/deleted too many times perviously. The relevant sources are now available and so i have created a draft of the page here User:lolenelolene/draft. rootology (C)(T) 17:54, 5 June 2009 (UTC) told me to reference his reply to me at the unprotection section - [1] . rootology (C)(T) said - "Please draft a copy of the page with sourcing in someplace like User:lolenelolene/draft, and reference my edit response to you here in case someone tries to delete that work in progress. When it's done, post a request to WP:DRV for review. Thanks! rootology (C)(T) 17:54, 5 June 2009 (UTC)."
I think i have done everything he told me to do...so could you please reinstate the page? Thanks very much! lolenelolene (talk) 19:39, 5 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- the notability guidelines state If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to satisfy the inclusion criteria for a stand-alone article. There are two sources in the article, one is track listing which only lists the subject for backing vocals, which hardly counts as "significant coverage". The second is a local news site. So this doesn't appear to meet the basic criteria. Other material seems to be unreferenced and probably needs to be removed. e.g. "...Lolene signed a development deal with BMG Records to front their latest girl group. Lolene wrote the groups material..." is totally unreferenced. As is "After gaining attention in London as both a writer and vocalist..." which you'd expect this attention to be documented in some sort of reliable source? --82.7.40.7 (talk) 20:03, 5 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Ok i have cut the page down, is this suitable? User:lolenelolene/draft I will cut it down further if you think this is needed for the page to be reinstated. lolenelolene (talk) 21:39, 5 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- You needn't cut it down on my say so, and I'm sure a few others will yet give an opinion on this. My primary point is that it doesn't appear to meet the notability guidlines, from the article as is she doesn't appear to have been noticed by the rest of the world such that they will write about her which would then be used as sources. The unreferenced material I pointed to in addition was that I was hoping you might reference those to some other reliable third party sources which would help with establishing notability --82.7.40.7 (talk) 20:47, 5 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Ok, well i think what there is now User:lolenelolene/draft is the only suitably referenced material at present. So do the other admins agree that this is suitable? Thanks! lolenelolene (talk) 22:09, 5 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Endorse deletion - the one source of any substance reads like a press release. There also appear to be WP:COI issues based on the name of the editor wishing to reinstate the article. This in and of itself is not a barrier to having an article but it does set the bar higher. Suggest waiting until some actual music is released and, if the reliable third-party sources materialize, a disinterested party will undoubtedly seek to write the article from a neutral POV. Otto4711 (talk) 14:15, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Endorse for a little while longer. The one source of substance is a local paper doing a "local girl makes it big" human interest story. Maybe after she makes it big? - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire - past ops) 07:42, 8 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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