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18th-century Lithuanian people by occupation
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Category:Byzantine queens consort
Category:Irreligion in the Arab world
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- The result of the discussion was: speedy keep. Withdrawn. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 20:37, 21 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Nominator's rationale: WP:ARBITRARYCAT, there is no agreed definition of "Arab world". The items should be merged to sibling Category:Irreligion by country; the child Category:Arab atheists should be re-parented to Category:Atheists by ethnicity. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 16:04, 12 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Oppose, as this forms part of Category:Religion in the Arab world. – Fayenatic London 14:34, 13 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- That may be, but there is nothing "Arab world"-specific about the children, which are all "by country" cats. "Arab atheists" is borderless as they can live anywhere in the world. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 15:33, 13 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Maybe so, but the Arab atheists who are currently in the category are all within Middle East & North Africa.
- Anyway, my point is that it would be invidious to remove just one sub-cat of Category:Religion in the Arab world. It would be better to have this discussion at that level, including Bahá'í Faith in the Arab world, Hinduism in the Arab world etc. As long as we have Category:Religion in the Arab world, it is positively helpful to be able to navigate between the 7 articles about irreligion in various Arab countries. – Fayenatic London 15:40, 16 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for pointing that out, that is true. Unfortunately it turns out to be another WP:CROSSCAT between ethnicity and nationality, so that just shifts the problem.
- I thought it would be easier to start with a relatively simple subcat to set a precedent, but that it may be viewed as unfair to nominate only one is something I can understand.
- Maybe a better solution is to simply alt merge to Category:Irreligion in the Middle East? It has a main article Irreligion in the Middle East and mostly the same contents already. We would have to let Morocco go, but that is already in Category:Irreligion in Africa (which has main article Irreligion in Africa), so I think it's fine. What do you think? Also asking @Marcocapelle? Cheers, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 16:13, 16 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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- I see no need for him to strike his support !vote, but if he would express support for a wider nomination then that would avoid any criticism about best practice per WP:CSK. – Fayenatic London 14:07, 20 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for linking to WP:CSK, I never knew that page existed! The relevant provision seems to be 1.1:
If a good faith editor in good standing recommends delete or redirect, the AfD should not be speedily closed using this ground.
Theoretically supporting the merge as nominated is not a delete or redirect, but in practice it will lead to the deletion of the existing category. Marcocapelle is evidently a good faith editor with good standing, so we can't ignore his !vote. If I understand correctly, Marcocapelle should formally retract his Support !vote. Informally he has already expressed willingness to do so, and support for a wider nomination: In retrospect I was a bit sloppy with my initial reaction, I should have said something like, support but please co-nominate the sibling categories. and I would definitely support that [the new proposal NL made and Fayenatic supported]. But just to be on the closer's safe side, I would like to ask him to formally retract that Support !vote to allow me to request a Withdrawal and for a closer to approve it per 1.1. (That may be pendantic and bureaucratic, but in practice we already agree and there is no reason to continue this nom if we want to start over and already agree how.) Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 14:36, 20 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Withdraw as nom. All participants agree to start over with a fresh, broader nomination. Thanks for the good feedback! Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 00:45, 21 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- @Qwerfjkl Could you speedy-close this? Thanks! Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 20:25, 21 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Monodnaviria
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- The result of the discussion was: do not merge; delete Category:Non-cellular life. I note that in other Wikipedias the categories linked at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q9513006 include more articles such as prion, viroid, virusoid and satellite (biology), but most of these are not even mentioned in the page non-cellular life, so there seems to be no case for further discussion. – Fayenatic London 20:45, 29 August 2023 (UTC) – Fayenatic London 20:45, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Propose deleting Category:Non-cellular life
- Nominator's rationale: merge, DNA viruses is a more clearly defining characteristic of the content of this category. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:23, 4 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Parent/Neutral on Merge The Non-cellular life article seems to be a concept that has not yet gained strong traction and it's under Category:Hypothetical life forms. No objection to recreation though if there are articles about this concept or the concept becomes official taxonomy. (Defer to others on the value of the Monodnaviria category.) - 02:41, 7 August 2023 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by RevelationDirect (talk • contribs)
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Relisting comment: For more input on the merge.
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Category:Acting presidents by country
Category:10th-century women rulers
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Category:Arab–Iranian conflict
Category:Head of Government elections
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Category:Archaeological cultures of Central Asia
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Category:11th-century rulers in Al-Andalus
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Category:Indo-European archaeology
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Category:7th-century women rulers
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Category:8th-century women rulers
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Category:Alumni of Preston Lodge High School
Category:Coaching associations based in the United Kingdom
Category:Romance legendary creatures
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Category:9th-century women rulers
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Category:Naval aviation in fiction
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Category:Buildings and structures damaged by earthquakes
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- The result of the discussion was: purge and use "destroyed" instead of "damaged".. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:11, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Propose renaming Category:Buildings and structures damaged by earthquakes to Category:Buildings and structures damaged or destroyed by earthquakes
- Propose renaming Category:Buildings and structures destroyed in the 1906 San Francisco earthquake to Category:Buildings and structures damaged or destroyed by the 1906 San Francisco earthquake
- Propose renaming Category:Buildings and structures demolished as a result of the 2011 Christchurch earthquake to Category:Buildings and structures damaged or destroyed by the 2011 Christchurch earthquake
- Propose renaming Category:Buildings damaged by the 2011 Tōhoku earthquake and tsunami to Category:Buildings and structures damaged or destroyed by the 2011 Tōhoku earthquake and tsunami
- Propose renaming Category:Buildings damaged by the 2023 Turkey–Syria earthquake to Category:Buildings and structures damaged or destroyed by the 2023 Turkey–Syria earthquake
- Nominator's rationale: Lack of consistency with each other; includes buildings that were damaged to various degrees, including complete collapse. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 07:55, 20 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Assassinated heads of government
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Category:Pan-Slavic languages
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- The result of the discussion was: merge all. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:09, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Nominator's rationale: merge, only two articles in the category. By all means recreate the category when more articles will fit, but I would not expect that to happen soon. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:25, 20 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- I agree. It would absolutely be possible to fill this category with at least a dozen articles about language projects that are now discussed in Pan-Slavic language, but as you say, I don't see this happening in the near future—especially since the person writing them would probably have been me. :)
By the way, I would suggest doing the same with Category:Pan-Germanic languages: there we have three articles, but Wede is miscategorised, since its intended use is neither Pan-Germanic nor zonal. —IJzeren Jan Uszkiełtu? 12:30, 20 August 2023 (UTC) And in general, Category:Zonal constructed languages is not that large that subdivision into many pan-somethings is necessary. —IJzeren Jan Uszkiełtu? 15:51, 20 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Dropsie College for Hebrew and Cognate Learning
Category:Members of the Fédération Internationale de Philatélie
Category:Members of Royal Agricultural Society
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:07, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Propose Deleting Category:Members of Royal Agricultural Society
- Nominator's rationale: WP:V, the spirit of WP:C1, an unpopulated category, and presumably WP:OCASSOC
- There's not much here. The only article in this category, Tha Myat, makes no mention of being a member of this group. It's not even clear which organisation we're talking about here since Royal Agricultural Society is a disambiguation page. - RevelationDirect (talk) 01:26, 20 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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